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Psychedelic Sees REDBELT!

I still want to see RedBelt.... by travis-dane	Apr 14th, 2008 04:43:38 AM
the Trailers are very good,lets wait for Mori's review....
Pretty accurate take on Mamet, whom I respect. I can by CreasyBear	Apr 14th, 2008 06:20:57 AM
see what the reviewer means about his unique style of dialogue tugging you out of the movie a bit, though. I really liked The Spanish Prisoner, Spartan, State and Main, Ronin and the Edge. (The Heist, not so much.) Good review, though the corny "psychedelic" bookends were a little annoying. You don't need a gimmick, Psychedelic. You're better than that.
leobloom by Series7	Apr 14th, 2008 07:31:46 AM
Seriously, I don't think these guys work on the weekend. I'm in a catch-22 if I want to keep my job I won't dick around with all these post, but if I want to stay hip-to-it I don't want to start posting afterwork. Whats the working man to do? Hopefully after this people will realize that Chiwetel Ejiofor is the actor that they think Don Cheadle is and will start getting all his roles. Because Cheadle sucks donkey balls, and Chiwetel Ejiofor is a Magna Cum Laude graduate from the school of Denzel. What does Timothy Allen do in this movie? That would be awesome if the Tool Man did Kung Fu.
Joan of Bark: The Dog that Saved France by Series7	Apr 14th, 2008 07:39:59 AM
Wow David Mamet sounds like he's got a hot property coming up next. Thats one of the worst titles for a movie I've heard in a long time. Even worse then The Karate Dog.
Mamet is extremely awesome but WTF is with his politics? by Proman1984	Apr 14th, 2008 07:46:06 AM
Still, looking forward to this
Oh and by the way. "Heist" was magnificent. "Spartan" was not by Proman1984	Apr 14th, 2008 07:48:47 AM
Still a good movie but not quite up to par.
Spartan was the dog's bollocks. by Knuckleduster	Apr 14th, 2008 08:17:35 AM
Loved it. Intelligent, relentless and pretty damn exciting. Val Kilmer is hardcore, man. I'll watch anything that Mamet's involved in. State and Main is a great movie about making movies. P.S. I like Don Cheadle. Especially in Boogie Nights and Traffic.
by the way	Apr 14th, 2008 08:52:39 AM
Chiwetel Ejiofor + David Mamet + Jiu-Jitsu = NO REVIEW NESCESSARY
My boss is so cool that when he goes to sleep... by Osmosis Jones	Apr 14th, 2008 09:09:21 AM
...sheep count HIM.
Spartan was awesome, The Unit is crap by cowboyone	Apr 14th, 2008 09:16:13 AM
RedBelt looks pretty weak to me. Me thinks Mamet's getting a little TOO enamored of tough guys. (the Unit) and his ju-jitsu classes RedBelt)
Coffee... by jackietheblade	Apr 14th, 2008 09:21:05 AM
is for closers.
The Worst Thing About Mamet by The Funketeer	Apr 14th, 2008 09:40:30 AM
is the imitators. He's spawned a whole bunch of writers who seem to think they can do what he does and who are too lazy to come up with their own style. I'll see anything Chiwetel Ejiofor does so I'm there for this.
The problem with the Heist by Series7	Apr 14th, 2008 10:28:49 AM
Was that it got lost in the crowd After the Score, and both had similar themes. I don't know if I sat all the way through the Score though.
I repeat: Spartan was a weaker film than Heist by Proman1984	Apr 14th, 2008 01:46:06 PM
Seriously now, Heist was intense, genuinly interesting and the final shootout scene was damn really fucking intense and oldschool. Loved it. As for Spartan, I found it suprisingly linear. There were, of course, a lot of thing I liked about it, but I also found it incredibly banal. The ending partiluarly dissapointed, in a much the same way as it did in his other fantatic film - Spanish Prisoner. Not a touch on his absolute masterpiece - Glengarry GlenRoss.
If you want to see good Mamet on film by BGDAWES	Apr 14th, 2008 03:55:58 PM
go rent Edmond. That flick is nuts.
Spartan > Heist by doodler	Apr 14th, 2008 06:50:31 PM
because Spartan was more original, and it didn't have people pulling endless trump cards out of endless asses. By about the 3rd turnaround-double-cross-revers al toward the end, i just couldn't take it anymore and told the movie to fuck itself. Spartan had intense action, good acting, plot, and pretty realistic tactics and gunplay (save for that scene where Val racks the shotgun an extra time or two). I agree Spartan wasn't the best Mamet flick, but it was way better than Heist, which was just derivative of his other con-man movies. It has a clever heist, but everyone's overacting, the dialogue is especially Mamet-y and stilted, and a lot of characters you don't care about.
Heist vs Spartan by Tenebre	Apr 14th, 2008 07:15:23 PM
I found Heist to be disapointing. It was fairly servicable heist pic with your standard cross/double cross/triple cross plot. Not bad, but definately workman-like compared to what Mamet is capable of. Spartan however, was far more enjoyable to me. I think the trick to enjoying Spartan is to realize, as its title clearly suggests, that it is a character piece. The main character is a sociopathic amoral killer who was the Mr. Wolf for Uncle Sam. This was a man who had long since crossed all personal lines and was willing to do anything that needed to be done for the good of his country. He followed orders unquestioningly. Somewhere along the way he had lost his soul. The joy of watching Spartan is watching him slowly regain his humanity, and finally, witnessing his choice to make the ultimate sacrifice to protect the girl--who to me represented goodness itself, in a metaphorical sense.
Spartan by Tenebre	Apr 14th, 2008 07:22:38 PM
I guess I see Spartan as a Mamet version of Man on Fire, which I also enjoyed immensely.
More Spartan? by Tenebre	Apr 14th, 2008 07:57:15 PM
It seems to me, that in keeping with the rules established within the film's universe, that as soon as he decided to betray his master--the good of the US government, he was doomed to be destroyed. The character knew this when he chose to serve his new master--the greater good. There's a definate fatalism to his attitude once he makes his choice to go get the girl. This may have even happened in an earlier draft. However, the script allowed him to live. Now, this is not the type of character to fade into nothingness. I like to imagine him running around the world doing A-team-like missions for those who don't have the power to fight for themselves. I'd love to see Mamet make this into a francise. Not that it will ever happen...
Why, I don't think people here even understood Heist by Proman1984	Apr 15th, 2008 07:27:52 PM
Spartan wasn't even in the same league. When you really start thinking about the plot you will find that it's pretty ridicolous actually. Oh well, to each his own.

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