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by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
10:52:27 AM
2nd!!
by santi01
Apr 9th, 2008
10:53:48 AM
fuck yeah!
So if they're not even filming yet...
by Rickey Henderson
Apr 9th, 2008
10:54:29 AM
How does Stone expect this movie to hit theaters in January of 08? Stone is an insane jackass.
Lets get started
by santi01
Apr 9th, 2008
10:54:34 AM
Bush is a piece of shit.......
W = .....
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
10:54:57 AM
...we all know the answer to this equation. Fuck this guy and his cousin Kerry. Redneck fuckers. Although their other distant cousin Hugh Hefner seems pretty cool. heehee
"Turdblossom" is old news
by Curious_Jorge
Apr 9th, 2008
10:56:33 AM
where ya been?
A lot more is out than just the opening...
by MorbidObesity
Apr 9th, 2008
10:57:01 AM
...and it looks like this one might be a hit after all. That is, if they retitle it as "National Lampoon's Moonbat Fever!"
Aren't Turdblossoms...
by Kingdaddy
Apr 9th, 2008
10:57:19 AM
the state flower of Texas?
And also, that reads like a bad SNL sketch
by Rickey Henderson
Apr 9th, 2008
10:57:30 AM
That's an overwhelmingly poor & shallow treatment of the subject matter. If Stone was serious about lambasting the Bush Administration's numerous foibles and atrocities, he would've at least found an intelligent script to work from...
oh boy....
by finky089
Apr 9th, 2008
10:57:43 AM
obviously the dialogue will be realistic in this film....
www.aint-it-liberal-propaganda.c om
by uss cygnus
Apr 9th, 2008
10:58:15 AM
Come on, you can disclose how much Media Matters and moveon.org contribute to this site, guys. At least you should have the balls to admit it.
Please Google....Bush Nazi ... NOW !!!
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
10:58:52 AM
You will see where the Bush's got all of their wealth. It was not originally oil as we have all been lead to beleive. Oh don't me started goddamnit!!!
Its going to be ONE HELL OF A RIDE!!!
by Mysterious Yobo
Apr 9th, 2008
10:59:24 AM
Baa baa baa!
I'm not being facetious with this question...
by beastie
Apr 9th, 2008
10:59:32 AM
Is this supposed to be a comedy? An Oliver Stone Satire? That's how it read to me. If so, I really look foward to it. Stone does satire well, in my opinion. I just don't want another Nixon.
I hope this is the first draft...
by RussianRocket
Apr 9th, 2008
10:59:47 AM
Because it stinks... I'm not a fan of Bush either but it feels like this script was written by a 12 year old... Then again its a movie about a 12 year old :P ...
Its should be titled
by santi01
Apr 9th, 2008
10:59:53 AM
"National Lampoon Presents: The Life of a Stupid Fucking Rich Retard From Texas"
can't wait...
by force_fed
Apr 9th, 2008
11:00:14 AM
to hear what that jjjjjiiiissssssmmmmm guy has to say about this. it's like listening to limbaugh for kicks. idiot.
MorbidObesity
by JustThisGuy
Apr 9th, 2008
11:00:55 AM
Where is more of this out? I'd love to get my hands on a copy.
force_fed
by santi01
Apr 9th, 2008
11:01:23 AM
jjjjiiiiisssssmmmmmm is slightly retarted, dont be so hard on the loser...
Anybody who believes a word of this....
by uss cygnus
Apr 9th, 2008
11:01:36 AM
Is a prime example of why the human gene pool is disturbingly contaminated and diseased. Unless I see a notarized transcript of these "Supposed conversations" IE "Axis Of Evil" "Discussion", it's just a work of fiction written by two traitors.
Bush and Cheney wrote this?
by santi01
Apr 9th, 2008
11:02:34 AM
Those the traitors?
Google....Bush Nazi ... NOW !!!
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
11:02:56 AM
Horribly Written Script.
by SkidMarkedUndies
Apr 9th, 2008
11:03:36 AM
But why would that be any different from any other "edgy" political film? Stone just wants to pile on the hurt before November when this nightmare of a presidency ends. Let it go. We know how much he sucks. Just let it go. Watch Lil Bush if you need absolution.
Look, Rickey's a "liberal," but that script is garbage...
by Rickey Henderson
Apr 9th, 2008
11:04:24 AM
It's overwhelmingly shitty. No way does this flick ever make it past principal shooting. Rickey can garuntee--no one will ever see this dreck.
BB sucks ass
by santi01
Apr 9th, 2008
11:04:40 AM
Sweet google! theyre all a bunch of fucking evil people
That script is...
by 69DUDE
Apr 9th, 2008
11:05:22 AM
crap.
santi01
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
11:06:01 AM
And this is surprising?
Google....Bush Nazi ... NOW !!!
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
11:06:20 AM
Do your fucking homework boys and girls
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
11:06:40 AM
santi01...
by force_fed
Apr 9th, 2008
11:06:56 AM
i was going to say as are all bush supporters, but thats insulting to retarded people.
Not at all
by santi01
Apr 9th, 2008
11:07:44 AM
Not surprising at all. Google Bush Sr JFK assasination
Seriously, W. drinking O'Dools in the White House?
by Rickey Henderson
Apr 9th, 2008
11:07:46 AM
Stone is batshit crazy for thinking that's a decent script.
TIMEOUT
by Stevie Grant
Apr 9th, 2008
11:11:20 AM
This has nothing to do with the article, but if you go on YouTube and search for "Uwe Boll petition" you find his taped response to that petition in which he explains his singular "genius". It's really funny.
infowars.com
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
11:11:56 AM
Alex Jones is a fucking nut but alot of his information is undeniable. And in advance for those retards who do not understand nor care to he is NOT and should be the only source but a decent starting point no less.
correction
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
11:13:16 AM
*He should NOT be the only source, but a decent starting point no less.
"Turd Blossom" WAS Dubya's nickname for Rove
by Thick McRunFast
Apr 9th, 2008
11:13:44 AM
All the coke-snorting and drunken nights eliminated W's capacity for remembering names, so pretty much everyone he meets is bestowed with a folksy nickname. Common knowledge, Merrick.
What sucks about this
by PotSmokinAlien
Apr 9th, 2008
11:15:03 AM
is that back around the beginning of the war in Iraq, I remember saying "Man wouldn't it be great if, in 25 years, the last masterpiece of Oliver Stone's career was some awesome WTC-inside-job/Iraq-War-profit eering conspiracy mindfuck."

Instead we get this movie of the week sounding lionizing of GW Bush, the chickenshit little toadie who never did jack shit for himself. That "Axis of Evil" conversation is laughable. Is that what we're supposed to believe happened? Give me a fucking break, he sat back while he was spoon-fed every 'idea' this administration has had.

Not very subtle
by blindambition238
Apr 9th, 2008
11:15:56 AM
But still pretty funny.
I love Oliver Stone, I hate George Bush, I know Bush lied abut t
by WeinerPenis
Apr 9th, 2008
11:16:58 AM
....and yet I can't shake the feeling that thi movie is going to be dog piss. Great casting, yes. But you know, if you are going to make a george bush movie, why make this one? Yes, he was a loser. Yes, he clearly cheated in life to get straight C's and still end up at all of his daddy's schools. Yes, he ducked out of his national guard duty. Yes, he lied intentionally about the war to fulfill the dream of the project for the new american century. But what the fuck is the point of this movie?
I'm getting tired of this crap
by greyspecter
Apr 9th, 2008
11:17:16 AM
Okay, I get it, you wacko libs despise Bush and everything he stands for (which isn't much, he bent over backwards for Dems throughout his domestic policy). But if you're going to make a "biopic" about someone, shouldn't you at least attempt some semblence of reality to it? If all you want to do is parody him, just watch Lil Bush and Where's My Bush, and every other political show on 98% of TV stations. If you claim it's got some versimilitude, then don't insult half the country in the name of salving your bitter twisted hearts. I mean, come on! Where's the cutting movie about the Clintons?!? The family's entire political life is a giant soap opera! No fictionization required!
Sorry Batman Begins (etc)
by MattmanReturns
Apr 9th, 2008
11:18:18 AM
Your username negates anything you say as credible. Yes, we all hate Bush, but that screenplay's introduction is ridiculous. "What should we call it?" "Uhhh... how 'bout Axis of Scary People?" Dumb. No one has conversations like that.
"That "Axis of Evil" conversation is laughable. Is that what we'
by Thick McRunFast
Apr 9th, 2008
11:19:00 AM
http://tinyurl.com/6446qz - "That phrase did evolve," Weisberg said. "There was a funny debate about who got credit, which is hilarious when you think what a disaster it was."
A certain news division is being generous.
by MorbidObesity
Apr 9th, 2008
11:21:42 AM
You'll be able to get a fairly complete .pdf soon enough. Actually, it's so available and moronic that maybe people shouldn't get too giddy about this leak. Even Stone might not be drug-crazed enough to shoot this one.
shakespeare reference?
by force_fed
Apr 9th, 2008
11:26:14 AM
frat boys stirring the hunch punch while chanting = a ref to macbeth? double, double toil and trouble; fire burn, and cauldron bubble. still seems like pretty juvenile writing though.
MattmanReturns
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
11:27:12 AM
"Your username negates anything you say as credible". And this negates your mentality. Love serving 15.
It takes a turd to know a turd...
by morGoth
Apr 9th, 2008
11:27:15 AM
...that's all I got....for now.
If "W" is even half as good as "Alexander"
by BGDAWES
Apr 9th, 2008
11:28:08 AM
then I think we're all in for a real treat.
Hey Greyspecter
by Baba-Lou
Apr 9th, 2008
11:29:09 AM
Go watch "Primary Colors" if you're hot to see the Clintons get the treatment... really, Equating Bush and his Goons with movie supervillans only demeans the villans. at least THEY have plans...
fuckin' Stone....
by seniorspeilbergio
Apr 9th, 2008
11:31:57 AM
Man, those script pages blew. He's going to go with a simplistic parody when the true complexity of this guy and his family is much more interesting and dark. What a fucking cop out. This story is a slam dunk. I can't believe he's going to fuck up such a straight forward boondoggle especially when so much of it has been so tirelessly documented. This should be approached like an Alan J. Pakula film from the 70's. God, I wish it was Paul Thomas Anderson directing this. "There Will Be $4.00 At The Pump".
A Fragrant, Steaming Bouquet of Turdblossoms...
by sidestepper
Apr 9th, 2008
11:32:40 AM
is what this movie will be.
NOPE.
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Apr 9th, 2008
11:37:11 AM
I'm still getting an ANY GIVEN SUNDAY vibe.
Here We Go Again
by Rebeck2
Apr 9th, 2008
11:37:35 AM
I love all these people who say "I'm not a fan of Bush, BUT..." Oh shut the fuck up. We all know you voted for the loser and now you're trying to both disavow him and continue to claim that the trouble with this country is the Liberal "agenda". Only Bush supporters would be stupid enough to keep trying that line of logic when Republicans have run the show for the last eight years and driven the country into the ground. What balls these conservatives have. We fucked up, we gave you a complete disaster of a president, but HEY, we're still right about everything and the Lefties are wrong and vote for the guy who's going to continue Bush's great work. Wow.
retarded
by palooka_boy
Apr 9th, 2008
11:40:21 AM
reads like a 9th grader wrote it
What bugs Rickey is that it give the GOP more ammo
by Rickey Henderson
Apr 9th, 2008
11:41:00 AM
Movies like this won't motivate the Democratic base (at least not that part of it that has two brain cells to rub together). This is just going to galvanize the GOP and serve as a call to arms for all those Rush Limbaugh swilling ditto heads. Within one month, conservative groups will be petitioning theaters and distributors to block the release of this movie. And Hollywood being as spineless as it is, the conservative nut jobs will succeed too. How in the hell is any studio greelighting this in the first place?
there should be space chimps in this
by just pillow talk
Apr 9th, 2008
11:41:44 AM
Space Chimps Attack! Of course they'll be very liberal space chimps who will take over the world. What will we ever do?
No, the trouble with this country is BUSH
by MattmanReturns
Apr 9th, 2008
11:42:36 AM
But I'd rather have a SMART screenplay than, "Let's call it Axis of Villains"
JFK was a masterpiece
by TerryMalloy
Apr 9th, 2008
11:43:48 AM
This looks like shite.
or maybe conservative dinosaurs attack!
by just pillow talk
Apr 9th, 2008
11:44:10 AM
though they'll stay home and let those silly mammoths do the attacking.
"it's not like japan, italy and germany..."
by palooka_boy
Apr 9th, 2008
11:44:23 AM
"they were on the same side!" thanks for the history lesson! considering japan and germany weren't on any official "side." this movie is going to be crap, and any person from any political standpoint should be able to recognize that.
MorbidObesity
by JustThisGuy
Apr 9th, 2008
11:45:29 AM
Still being cryptic eh? If there's a .pdf that is "so available" why not just point the way to those who want to find it?
Hey there Pillow
by Rickey Henderson
Apr 9th, 2008
11:45:54 AM
How bout those damned Mets? Can't get a win to save their lives, can they?
it's a fucking continuation of last year Ricky
by just pillow talk
Apr 9th, 2008
11:47:21 AM
Very bad feeling about Jose. What the hell is wrong with him? I'll be going to the game Friday night, and unless it changes, Nelson Figuero is pitching. Yikes! And Pelfrey tonight? Dark times could well be ahead...
Lighten up, JustThisGuy.
by MorbidObesity
Apr 9th, 2008
11:50:06 AM
I said a fairly complete .pdf should be available soon enough, not that it was "so available" now. I also said that it might not be such valuable insider knowledge...although, with Stone, I guess we can't be sure.
Oh Jesus, you too?
by Rickey Henderson
Apr 9th, 2008
11:50:44 AM
Rickey will be there for the Friday & Sunday games (just missed seeing Santana throw--drat). Granted, it's only game 6 of the season, but it definitely looks like that karma from 07 is carrying over. Jose sulking is a verrrrrry bad sign: as he goes, so do the Mets.
When hating Bush, who needs quality?
by DirkBelig
Apr 9th, 2008
11:50:56 AM
Hollywood thinks that just spewing rage and bile is enough and that we should be happy to pay $10 to watch them jerk off their fascist liberal fantasies. It's worked so well with "In the Valley of Elah", "Rendition", "Redacted", "Lions For Lambs", and "Stop-Loss", hasn't it?

[crickets]

"Farginghype 7-11" didn't stop Bush from being re-elected - if anything, it motivated voters to support him against hypocritical Hollywood - so how Stone thinks rushing this fantasy film out in time for this go-round mystifies me. Bush isn't on the ballot and if he thinks a legitimate war hero like John McCain is going to be harmed is delusional. Given a choice between a moderate man who has served and sacrificed for his country; a lying harridan who is half of the team that has made $109 million (largely from Arab interests) and facilitated pardons for Puerto Rican terrorists in exchange for votes; and a corrupt Chicago gangster who has sat for two decades in the pews of a Black Nationalist "church" and exposes his young daughters to paranoid conspiracy lies about AIDS and 9/11; people will chose the war hero every time.

When Theo Van Gogh was murdered by an Islamofascist, Hollywood said nothing. When South Park wanted to satirize the rioting about cartoons depicting Mohammad, they were censored by Comedhimmi Central. But when Hollywood wants to pretend that they're soooooooo brave and "speaking truth to power", what do they do? Pressure Castro or Chavez? NO!!! They bash a lame duck President who will just turn the other cheek and leave office in nine months. Real brave! No one has dragged Tim Robbins and Sean Penn away in the middle of the night, never to be seen again? Michael "When's lunch?" Moore and Oliver "JFK, mein leige!!!" Stone are making movies unchecked and have their minges tongued by their fellow travelers. There is more risk in picking fights with Amish than bashing Bush.

Stone is a loon who clings to the fantasy that if JFK hadn't died, he would've stopped the Viet Nam war he started and Stone wouldn't have been traumatized. Wrong!!! If Daddy Joe Kennedy hadn't stolen the 1960 Election with his Mafia pals in Chicago, Nixon would've won and the war may not have started in the first place, or been better fought. Stone is a kook and a hack. Anyone who can make a buck naked Rosario Dawson into not-enough-to-turn-"Alexander" -into-a- watchable-movie doesn't deserve to film a kindergarten play, much less a major studio picture ever again.

This Will Galvanize the GOP?
by kevinwillis.net
Apr 9th, 2008
11:52:25 AM
If by "galvanize" you mean "bore", then maybe so. As Rush Limbaugh is fond of saying, running against Bush is pointless because he's not running for anything.

And, even so, this just sounds tedious. More tedious even than Nixon, which flopped.
priceless
by whatyoufear
Apr 9th, 2008
11:52:39 AM
it's funny to see people talk about someone or something they dislike so much ALL THE FUCKING TIME.
Figeroa or whatever his name is could be good...
by Rickey Henderson
Apr 9th, 2008
11:55:16 AM
Dude's only 33. Yes, he's been in baseball exile for the past 4 years, but who knows? Maybe we'll get a good performance from him. Aight, lunchtime for Rickey, later dude.
So..Oliver Stone is basically making a MADTV skit?
by LHombreSiniestro
Apr 9th, 2008
11:55:20 AM
...cause that's what it reads like.
Awwww, poor widdle Dirk.
by FluffyUnbound
Apr 9th, 2008
11:57:42 AM
News flash, asshole: Your hero Bush will be spit on for decades if not longer. As soon as he's out of office and no longer has to be defended as a figurehead, Republicans will spit on him too. This is absolutely certain, because in different ways Bush has outraged the conservative wing of the Republican party and the libertarian wing of the Republican party, and those groups are where the party draws its narratives and its intellectual justifications from. If those groups hate you AND the Democrats hate you, no one is going to stand up for you and everyone is going to take turns shitting on your face. And W just doesn't have the personal qualities to effect a grudging rehabilitation of his reputation the way Nixon did. So whine all you want, the Bush haters don't care and won't care. If anything your tears of frustration will taste very sweet to them. They sure taste sweet to me.
whatyoufear
by MattmanReturns
Apr 9th, 2008
11:57:44 AM
That's what Aint it Cool News is all about. As pointed out in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back.
attractive people...
by mr ahole ramirez
Apr 9th, 2008
11:57:48 AM
...playin ugly people...just heard Condoleeza is bein played by Thandie Newton...this movie already seems terrible...unless everyone has a crapload of makeup...I wonder if Bush would be rockin that uni-brow...
Comparing Movies . . .
by kevinwillis.net
Apr 9th, 2008
12:01:20 PM
Redacted doesn't belong with the rest. Rendition made $24 million world wide, which qualifies it as a flop against the likely production budgets and marketing, and Lions for Lambs made $57 million worldwide (most of it international, which I'll guarantee you is the target market for Stone's movie). In the Valley of Elah made $26 million (almost $20 of it international). Stop loss has made $8 million domestically, and will probably do at least twice that internationally. These aren't great performances, but they are just duds. Redacted, on the other hand, had a worldwide box office gross of $743 thousand dollars. There is no way that begins to cover the production budget. It doesn't really qualify as a movie.

A better comparison might be Stone's Nixon, which made $13 million domestically. On a production budget of $44 million. It may have done better internationally, but still . . . it was not all that engrossing, and I expect it did not appeal to the foreign market much at the time. Where as a trashing of Dubya that makes the American president (and the folks who voted for him( look like frat-boys, cowboys, retards, and extra-chromosome members of the right wing will get a very good reception in the international market. But I expect it will be a domestic flop.
Sorry MO
by JustThisGuy
Apr 9th, 2008
12:02:08 PM
It's been a rough couple of days. If you say it'll be available soon I'll chill out. How complete is mostly complete though?
Go fuck yourself, BB Sucks Ass.
by IAmJack'sUserID
Apr 9th, 2008
12:04:57 PM
Your name is stupid as are your many posts. Bush is an idiot and people don't like him?? Holy shit, man. Welcome to 8 fucking years ago, mental midget. As pointed out, your retarded username negates anything you have to say, although that in itself is...not much at all. It's isn't who you are, but what you do.
Why are libs so full of hate?
by PirateEmery
Apr 9th, 2008
12:05:27 PM
I have since given up on these 'W' talkbacks as there is no use debating with liberal indoctrination.

I've actually MET Bush. He's not THIS much of an idiot.

Don't get cute
by random dude
Apr 9th, 2008
12:06:04 PM
OR I'LL FUCK YA RIGHT IN THE ASS.
The complete script...
by MorbidObesity
Apr 9th, 2008
12:08:30 PM
...is supposedly in the hands of some reporters as a .pdf. A lot of people have different pages in their hands, and it seems one source is passing along an almost-complete script...either because they didn't get the whole thing, or they're sitting on something great for after everybody else has ran their stories on what's been put out there. Again, it's all so awful that maybe nobody should start gloating yet. It could be a set-up...or it could be all that Stone's capable of nowadays.
Bush Isn't an Idiot
by kevinwillis.net
Apr 9th, 2008
12:09:52 PM
Or "incurious" or "unread". He did better in college than the brilliant John F. Kerry, and better than Al Gore. I think history will clarify that, as it is in the process of doing with Ronald Reagan. It'll just take a generation or two, but presidencies are so well-documented now I think the reality will be clear, at least to historians far enough past the Bush years to have no particular bias against the man, and no particular axe to grind. Who knows, in 100 years the Democrats might be the tax-cutting small government types, and the Republicans will be arguing that we need to surrender to our enemies and immolate any remaining vestiges of a distinct American culture so dessicated European socialist will like us better.
IAmJack'sUserID
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
12:16:26 PM
Let's take a quick look at your previous post: 1)"Your name is stupid as are your many posts". 2)"As pointed out, your retarded username negates anything you have to say, although that in itself is...not much at all". and last but certainly LEAST is 3)"It's isn't who you are, but what you do". I would like to know Jack, did your mom stand behind you and help you write these? Very inteligent and thought out. Listen, do your fucking homework.
Google....Bush Nazi ... NOW !!!
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
12:16:50 PM
Do your homework
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
12:17:12 PM
IAmJack'sUserID
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
12:21:08 PM
How bout I change my name to Bush is the Coolest? Would that satisfy you and your mom. Because apparently you aint doing it. *giggles to self* Sorry guys i had a bad moment there. I gues my non existant credibility is completely shot now. FucknHell
george bush is a monkey
by ironic_name
Apr 9th, 2008
12:21:37 PM
the end.
"distinct american culture"
by ironic_name
Apr 9th, 2008
12:22:13 PM
hehehe..

HA!

Rickey...
by just pillow talk
Apr 9th, 2008
12:24:16 PM
If Nelson were to be any good, I'm sure the Mets will just trade him. Hmm...sure would be nice to have Kazmir and Bannister right about now...
IAmJack'sUserID BTW...
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
12:27:01 PM
It's funny how you've been so down on me and calling me all kinds of neato names, but not so long ago you were praising me for my comments as my other AICN TB handle. hmmm. What's a matter Jack? You're being picked on as a child coming back to haunt you?
Once again I say to the right-wingers...
by ZeroCorpse
Apr 9th, 2008
12:27:13 PM
Free Republic is that way ---->

Take your blind patriotism, your willingness to bend over and get ass-fucked by the corporate-owned President, and your tired old "libs", "libbies" and "libtards" comments and go share them with the rest of the 29% who still want to suck Bush's dick.

71% of the country HATES the President now. You're seriously fucking outnumbered, and at this point you're just the fucking fringe. Even my 70+ year-old lifelong conservative parents (who lived through the Great Depression and World War II) are distancing themselves from the King of All Assclowns.

Seriously. To paraphrase a great man, "You ain’t leading but two things right now: Jack and Shit. And Jack just left town.”

Why do liberals hate President Bush? Because he's a villainous, selfish, weaselly, cowardly, greedy, terrible human being who has fucked this country and left it in far worse shape-- and less populated by young Americans-- than any President since World War II, and FDR had good reasons for losing troops in that war. There's a far fucking cry from a regime nearly conquering the world, and a tin-star despot in a shithole oil-producing country with no decent weapons or army to speak of.

So please, take your sanctimonius, paranoid, xenophobic, bigoted asses over to Free Republic and give EACH OTHER handjobs. We're not interested, and considering you're in the minority by a Big Fuckin Margin, you can't gang up shout us down like you're used to doing in a debate you can't win.

Over there. Freeper feebs. Go. ---->

Karl Rove already resigned!
by Roderich
Apr 9th, 2008
12:27:44 PM
http://tinyurl.com/yo5grq

Nothing to worry about anymore...

ironic_name...
by greyspecter
Apr 9th, 2008
12:28:42 PM
aren't we all monkeys?
ZeroCorpse
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
12:29:24 PM
Yep...these idiots NEED TO DO THEIR HOMEWORK. And you are right when you state that we are a REPUBLIC!! Did you hear that Kids? A REPUBLIC. NOT a Democracy.
ZeroCorpse
by Rebeck2
Apr 9th, 2008
12:30:28 PM
I don't think I could say it any better than that. Thank you. Amen, brother.
Oh, and as for the movie.
by ZeroCorpse
Apr 9th, 2008
12:31:56 PM
I like Oliver Stone, but NOBODY, and I mean NO-FUCKIN-BODY wants to watch a movie about President dumbass. We want to forget him, we want him gone, and we don't want ANY marker in history to remind us that he shitted away 32% of our civil rights, hundreds of thousands of lives, and the respect of the world in just eight years.

Oliver Stone is fucking crazy if he thinks liberals will see this movie. We're Bushed-out. He's insane if he thinks conservatives will see this movie. The hardcore Bushies will be offended at the mere mention of "Oliver Stone" and "Bush" in the same sentence, and the ones who are sick of G.W. will avoid this like the rest of this.

Oliver Stone is making this movie for an audience of one: Himself. All-too-often, Stone likes to pull his own dick in the filmic sense, and he frequently forgets that movies need the attention of more than a handful of people in order to be worthwhile.

This is Oliver Stone's anti-fanwank, and I won't be putting a moment of my time into it at theaters, or on home video.

BatmanBegins...
by MorbidObesity
Apr 9th, 2008
12:33:46 PM
Prescott Bush was a good friend of Bob Hope. You are saying that Bob Hope liked to hang out with Nazi profiteers, and that, sir, is un-American. And laughable, too, but not as laughable as your easily-disproved conspiracy theories. If you really need to believe that we've had a President whose father embraced the Nazis, then look up Joseph Kennedy (and Joe, Jr., for that matter). Google it, I say!
ZeroCorpse...
by greyspecter
Apr 9th, 2008
12:34:14 PM
So Bush "left it in far worse shape-- and less populated by young Americans-- than any President since World War II, and FDR had good reasons for losing troops in that war" huh?

Ever heard of Vietnam? I'm sure as a good lib you have. Who took the USA there? How many young men died there?

As for the vast majority being against Bush, that's because he's alienated the fiscal and social conservatives by joining hands with Dems and signing huge spending bills, and alienated the left simply by breathing. I'm not a fan of his domestic policies, but that doesn't mean I hate him or think him scum as you do.

If real, this is embarrassing.
by krack
Apr 9th, 2008
12:36:06 PM
Even for liberals who can't stand Bush. This reads like an episode of that Bush cartoon on Comedy Central.

This is why I don't care that writers (and their families) were starving during the WGA strike.
And if Bush is such a dullard...
by greyspecter
Apr 9th, 2008
12:37:24 PM
then how the hell could he have done such a complete pooch-screw job? He'd have had to have stumbled into some things you approve of, right, if he can't find his ass with 2 hands and a flashlight?
MorbidObesity
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
12:37:26 PM
Aren't you a smart one. Do your homework. But you like the majority will ignore what's in front of you (unless it's a twinkie, beer or football game). Why don't you do a little more reading and get back to thought. Hurry up now, don't hurt yourself.
greyspecter
by ironic_name
Apr 9th, 2008
12:37:51 PM
good point.

but most of us monkeys haven't chocked on a pretzel.

Bush just doesn't interest me
by MattmanReturns
Apr 9th, 2008
12:38:00 PM
Maybe he if really was a nazi, that'd be something to make a movie about. But he's not. He's just a war-mongering redneck. To assign some great conspiracy to his presidency is giving him much more credit than he deserves.
None of you read..ahah
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
12:39:55 PM
Oh boy. You must read about and be somewhat familiar with something before you post a comment. ahah...Oh well. GO BUSH!
This really reads like shit.
by YackBacker
Apr 9th, 2008
12:41:26 PM
I can't wait to see this BONFIRE OF THE VANITIES redux happen.
Agreed--this script excerpt sucks...
by Le Vicious Fishus
Apr 9th, 2008
12:42:27 PM
And I'm by no means sure it is at all legitimate. This POS could've easily been written by a 12 year old with mediocre research skills.

This is something I'm sure we all--left and right and in between--can agree on: this "script excerpt" blows. And I'll be quite surprised if it's the real mccoy.
And honestly I doubt that Bush Jr.
by Le Vicious Fishus
Apr 9th, 2008
12:44:05 PM
is an interesting enough personality for biopic material. He's demonstrably dull--intellectually incurious and inflexible. Sounds like a yawn of a character to me...
Batman Begins Sucks Ass
by ZeroCorpse
Apr 9th, 2008
12:47:55 PM
Well, I wasn't really stating that we are a republic (But yes, we are, in the strictest sense. Honestly, we're a theocratically-influenced plutocracy if you want to get down-n-dirty about it, though). I was telling the conservatives that to go to their own political website (it's called "freerepublic.com" and they're known as "freepers") instead of trying their bully tactics here.

Too often, conservatives have this mental image of liberals being tree-hugging hippies, and they don't think we have the wherewithal to stand up to them when they start throwing a tantrum. As long as we avoid being hippy-dippy idiots, and keep the conversation at a level just a notch or two higher than theirs, we've got the high ground and all they have is a failed President who will go down in history as the worst President ever.

Whether you back Hillary, or Obama, or even McCain, you HAVE to recognize that Bush has been terrible for the United States and the world. Anyone still defending him at this point is a tinfoil hat-wearing, fringe freak who can't accept that they're wrong, and would rather see the country go down and everyone suffer than admit that a conservative President was an utter fucking failure as both a leader, and as a human being.

I'm no fan of McCain these days, now that he's been whipped into shape by the Bush boys, but I at least respect that HE was at war and can respect the deaths he'll most certainly cause overseas. Bush doesn't seem to even give a shit unless it provides a good photo op or fluff piece.

Just get to the polls. Be vigilant. Whichever Democratic nominee wins, you HAVE to support them if you want the end of this right-wing nightmare. Hillary and Obama would both would be a hundred times better than another Bushie in the White House. Stick with the main goal, which is to push them the fuck out of power and regain our motherfucking civil rights that Bush's team stole. We're the people in charge, and it's time we had a President that understands that they work for US, and not one that thinks they're King of America.

We are a republic, and one I'm (mostly) proud of. The bad guys may treat this place like it's a plutocracy, but that can be changed because the system was made to invoke such change. The founders weren't fools. They knew our system would become corrupt, and they built the tools to fix it right into the Constitution and Bill of Rights. They made a government that CAN right itself, if the People so will it.

There was once a time when you didn't have to even be a lawyer or politician to become President. The idea was that anybody with good ideas, and a willingness to serve the People could be considered a viable candidate. Maybe we need to stop looking to governors, senators, congressmen, and famous people, and start picking people who are just smart, or wise, or good-hearted.

Maybe the problem with politics is politicians.

EVERYONE KNOWS THAT!
by Sepulchrave
Apr 9th, 2008
12:49:26 PM
Thanks for the pages but we've known about 'Turdblossom' since Bush was popular....remember that?
Greyspecter
by FluffyUnbound
Apr 9th, 2008
12:51:00 PM
"...that's because he's alienated the fiscal and social conservatives by joining hands with Dems and signing huge spending bills, and alienated the left simply by breathing. I'm not a fan of his domestic policies, but that doesn't mean I hate him or think him scum as you do." Well, if a Democrat President had presided over the type of spending increases Bush has, I bet you'd hate him. Forget that Bush is a Republican for a minute, and ask yourself how you would react if the country elected a Democrat who was a recovering alcoholic who couldn't string two sentences together, and the guy proceeded to grow spending as fast as Johnson did, while signing a campaign finance reform bill, creating a new Medicare entitlement, pushing federal control over state and local education, and cutting VA spending while wounded vets in VA hospitals were crawled on by bugs and rats. And oh, this Democrat President regularly spies on whoever he wants without a warrant, and his chief adviser holds meetings with federal employees demanding that they conduct the business of their departments in a way that will help the President's re-election, and his Justice Department openly instructs all the other executive branch departments to start spuriously refusing to respond to FOIA requests. Oh, and a Republican Congress tries to investigate what this Democrat President is doing, but the Democrat laughs and tells his guys to ignore all subpoenas and all requests for information. I guarantee you that you would hate this Democrat President, and that there would be open talk of violent revolution or a military coup in Republican circles under such a set of circumstances.
BB Sucks Ass....mom jokes and being picked on as a child.
by IAmJack'sUserID
Apr 9th, 2008
12:51:26 PM
You are really burning through the internet badass insult cliche book, aren't you. I couldn't help but to laugh when you pointed out each sentence in my post only to not only fail to provide any analysis about them -- which might have been my fault to actually expect anything but -- but to fail to come up with any kind of evenly remotely entertaining comeback for them. Oh, I don't support Bush at all, but I also laugh at idiots like you that are clamboring to jump onto the overcrowded bandwagon and then shout about how evil and rotten and dumb he is to people that are deaf from hearing it. Let's see....Bush is evil and Batman Begins "sucks ass". You're one late comer, unlike your mom.
greyspecter
by Rebeck2
Apr 9th, 2008
12:51:40 PM
"By joining hands with Dems and signing huge spending bills"... That is fucking priceless. Is the sky blue in your world? Since when did Bush ever join hands with ANY Dem?? Are you out of your mind? It was his way or the highway and he treated the Dems like shit - some uniter! No buddy, sorry, but you're going to have to lay the fault at the foot of your darling little second-generation blueblood Christian chickenhawk that you ELECTED TWICE. Nice try though. Really. You're not pathetic at all.
Just get us started, BatmanBegins...
by MorbidObesity
Apr 9th, 2008
12:52:23 PM
Provide some fun facts -- but I think a lot of people have already done their homework, and dismissed what would have otherwise been an impressive attack on George Bush back during the campaign of 1980. Or '84, or '88. Wait, we didn't have Google back then! Or you to tell us about it! That's how they got away with it!
Vietnam didn't strip us of civil rights, dickbrain.
by ZeroCorpse
Apr 9th, 2008
12:55:03 PM
Name one point during the Vietnam conflict that the President or Congress passed ANYTHING even remotely similar to the USA PATRIOT ACT, or imprisoned people and tortured them just outside of American soil. Name one point during Nam when the President was fighting like hell to get the right to wiretap Americans. Name one point where soldiers were brought back to active duty after serving their tours, or after years of retirement. Name one point where the President of the United States or ANY of his cabinet used Vietnam as an opportunity to insinuate their own private companies into the country and profit from the war.

Vietnam was a shitstorm, to be sure, but the war profiteering, excuses to kill civil rights domestically, and shabbiest treatment of veterans all occurred since Bush was in office.

And I won't even BEGIN to discuss the fact that he has appointed lobbyists and corporate insiders to every environmental and security post... Even if it's a post they spent their career opposing.

Take it to Free Republic. They still swallow this shit and beg for more. Bush could squat on your lawn and leave a steaming pile for you to clean up, and you'd call him a hero for doing it. Nobody else is buying it, though.

Jesus that script sucked.
by Node32774
Apr 9th, 2008
12:58:49 PM
Stone better just pack it in if that's real. This is insulting to both sides of the political spectrum. Like it wasn't always going to be Axis of Evil. What an irretrievably retarded scene that is.
Zero
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
01:03:29 PM
For what it is worth, (and you can choose to beleive or not) I am writer for a certain "publication" I won't say which ofcourse, but my job allows me to rub elbows with people whom we speak of. I have met Bush, I have interviewed John Kerry's confidant etc....I will tell you this, these guys are showmen and work for other causes that you or I could only guess at. These causes have NOTHING to do with the United States. The Constitution that you mention is non existant in their eyes and the people who pupeteer them. Do a little research and you will find out that Bill Clinton never quoted the U.S. Constitution. He quoted from the United Nations Constitution. There is no regard or respect for us or this country. There is only regard for those who are born into powerful families who have sworn allegiences to societies established long ago. They rely on hiding in the open. They rely on nutbags who give the conspirital ideas a bad name and reputation. I will say it again, beleive me or not. Why I am here like an idiot making insane statements and talking shit when I am writer? Because I am geek at heart and I take fun in this guilty pleasure. Good job though Zero...Stay focused though and do a more research so that you CAN become that formidable foe you speak of. Peace
Vietnam...
by greyspecter
Apr 9th, 2008
01:04:29 PM
had a draft. How is that not stripping of rights?

Bush allowed Ted Kennedy to write No Child Left Behind. That's joining hands is it not? He signed the McCain Feingold bill limiting free speach, didn't he? I said I'm not a fan of his domestic policies, didn't I?

Whatever. "Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you become like him." That's from the Bible, by the way. I'm just going to go back to banging my sister and saluting the Confederate flag. Excuse me.

Sorry bout the bad sentences...
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
01:07:12 PM
ahahah. I was typing too fast. I should have used google. eheh
For those bashing on the script...
by JustThisGuy
Apr 9th, 2008
01:07:37 PM
This is from a draft that is two drafts old, I'm sure that it the writing is in far better shape by now. Oh, and having a draft isn't a stripping of rights or liberties. There is no where in the constitution that it says "No man shall be forced to enter military service". In fact, the original model the founders had in mind for a national army was that it would be kept at an extremely small size except in times of war, when its ranks would be bolstered as needed by whatever means necessary. Not that I'm endorsing a draft or anything.
Can't honestly judge who is worst ever
by Spastic Jedi
Apr 9th, 2008
01:07:43 PM
You simply cannot judge who is the worst President ever.

Every President has it's haters, and unfortunately, we live in a time where people can bash and hate and hide behind the anonymity of the internet.

How many people were able to voice their hatred for LBJ? And LBJ had JFK, RFK, and MLK assassinated and continued to keep waging war in Vietnam. I'm willing to bet that if the internet existed among the general public, at the time, LBJ would have been seen as the worst President ever.

Nixon is seen as one of the worst, yet without Nixon, we would have had no trade with China, which was huge to our economy and theirs.

The current Bush is seen as one of the worst, but he is hailed unanimously for his work with AIDS in Africa. He also has had the most culturally diverse administration in American history, something that if he were a Democrat he would have received MUCH more praise for.

My vote for worst ever would have to be LBJ, that guy is linked to three major assassinations of beloved political and social leaders, plus he did nothing to stop the Vietnam war, a completely senseless war where we lost literally 12x the amount of Americans we have lost in Iraq.

Bush would be a close second, but since he is the standing President he is easily the most hated at this time, but worst ever? Come on, read some real history and get some perspective.

Dear Jack and Morbid,
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
01:08:43 PM
Ok Ok...You got me. I give up.:) You guys are just too sharp. Gee Willikers
I, for one...
by MorbidObesity
Apr 9th, 2008
01:09:52 PM
...have no problem believing that BatmanBegins writes for a certain "publication."
MorbidObesity
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
01:11:29 PM
HA!! Shit I don't even beleive it. But I know where you're going with it.
inspired
by Richard Richard Mayhew
Apr 9th, 2008
01:12:28 PM
I've never bothered getting an account here before to comment, but sweet fucking christ that script is awful. I don't care if it IS a "couple of drafts old." It's bad.
DirkBelig...There is some knowledge on this TB
by ZoeFan
Apr 9th, 2008
01:13:52 PM
Thanks for speaking the truth...or at least a closer version to it. All the movies you mentioned were flops for the fact they were Ultra-Left Wing and Anti-War. I truely believe if Black Hawk Down would come out now it would be a bigger hit than it was in 2001. This is because our military is portrayed in a good light in that movie. People can hate Bush as much as they like...as long as they have the facts. That's what most people are sorely missing. True facts, as opposed to opinions that is tried to be passed over as fact. EXAMPLE: Bush lied about WMDs. Not a fact. FACT: Bush screwed up huge based on faulty intelligence given to him by not only our country, but Russian, Canadian, Italian and British intelligence (though Saddam later admitted when we caught him to wanting to initiate his WMD program back up). I do too much reading to just sit back and read what's posted on this TB without putting down the facts or at worst something a whole lot closer to it.
it is to laugh...
by Dwide Shrewd
Apr 9th, 2008
01:14:57 PM
The only thing about this that is more amusing than that piece of shit excuse for a script is the neocons on this site who still think they have a fucking leg to stand on. News flash: Your guy is a festering boil of failure, and we all know it. So fuck off!
Ridiculously over-the-top
by SkinJob69
Apr 9th, 2008
01:15:44 PM
If that's actually the script that makes it to the screen, this movie will tank faster than Alexander.

And I would hope that people on this TB, regardless of their opinion of Bush, would admit how simplistic and un-subtle that material was.

I hope the release of these pages leads to either, 1) a complete re-write, or 2) scrapping of the project altogether


by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
01:19:41 PM
"I do too much reading to just sit back and read what's posted on this TB without putting down the facts or at worst something a whole lot closer to it". That's just it. TOO much reading. Get out of your house and travel, talk to people around the world and get a real sense for what's really going on with your contry. Because you and a lot of other Americans know nothing about the US like others in other countries do. SAD. SAD. And where are your facts? Sorry bub, you should continue to fool yourself and save me the time.
Last post meant for Zoefan..eheh
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
01:20:09 PM
Do neo-cons truly exist?
by Spastic Jedi
Apr 9th, 2008
01:21:35 PM
I have always wondered if "neocons" truly exist. I for one have never met anyone who claims to be one. They seem to be more a liberal bogeyman more than an actual part of the political spectrum. Anyways...

To add to what ZoeFan has posted: Saddams own generals thought Saddam had the weapons. That speaks volumes as to why the information was wrong by everyones intelligence communities. Saddam was obviously one of histories worst dictators, but it also needs to be said that he was one of histories greatest con-men too.

Yea my sentence structure and spelling is off today.
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
01:22:07 PM
Especially for a self described writer.
by Spastic Jedi
Apr 9th, 2008
01:23:33 PM
SkinJob69...
by ZoeFan
Apr 9th, 2008
01:23:40 PM
Release of the film in the nature of this script would only help the Republicans as this would only appeal to Ultra-Left Wing bomb throwers. Everyone else would completely dismiss it as propaganda.
Yep, Spastic Jedi, neo-cons exist...
by Rickey Henderson
Apr 9th, 2008
01:24:10 PM
They're the ones that want to invade Iran.
Spastic
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
01:24:12 PM
Touche
BB SUCKS ASS
by BringingSexyBack
Apr 9th, 2008
01:25:24 PM
If what you claim about yourself is true, then thanks for sharing. Very interesting perspective at the very least. One thing - what's your take on Gore and Chuck Hagel, as politicians?
Remember when Stone used to write his own scripts
by BraneRobot
Apr 9th, 2008
01:25:38 PM
Yeah, I do too. Why do these guys turn into such hacks? Too much drugs and pussy?

And as far as Bush taking away all our civil rights, can anyone in here actually name something they are not allowed to do now that they could do in 1999?

Alright, which publication is it, BB Sucks?
by Rickey Henderson
Apr 9th, 2008
01:26:22 PM
You've piqued Rickey's curiousity...
FluffyUnbound = FascistMoron
by DirkBelig
Apr 9th, 2008
01:28:05 PM
What is it with you fascist liberals and your inability to understand that just because someone thinks Dubya is getting a raw deal doesn't mean they consider him a "hero"? Just because I'm against what you're for (i.e. liberal facism, socialism, totalitarian government) doesn't mean I'm for what you're against (i.e. Bush).

Other than taking the fight to the Islamofascists and cutting taxes to get America out of the Clinton recession, I can't think of much, if anything, that Dubya has done that's much good. I didn't vote for him in 2004 (voted Libertarian) because he was exploding the size of government in ways that fascist Dems could only dream of with his accomplices in the Stupid Party (i.e. GOP). There was a time when Republicans opposed this sort of crap and rode to power in 1994 with Newt Gingrich leading the way in order to cut back on the socialism. Today, the GOP is "Dem Lite" and have totally pissed-off REAL conservatives.

What the fascism-loving liberals here (and at Digg and Daily Kos) are spewing are lies and slander. You useful idiots are so consumed by Bush Derangement Syndrome that you imagine that you're living in a police state when we clearly aren't. Our borders are unsecured because Dubya thinks Baby Jesus will return as a Mexican anchor baby or some such nonsense. He restricted free speech with his pal McCain with so-called "campaign finance reform". He has busted the budget trying to show how "compassionate" he is with our money. He's been a typical DEMOCRAT except that the Dems have gone so far to the extreme fascist Left that he (and McCain) look conservative in comparison. Hell, Stone's hero JFK would be called a "neocon warmonger" by today's fascist liberals.

"71% of the public hate Bush"? WRONG! 29% approved of his JOB PERFORMANCE. You can't spin stats to mean what they don't. I don't approve of his performance, but I don't hate him like you terminal BDS sufferers to. I don't think this so-called "war" is being run right either. A real war would've been over by now. This bullshit "compassionate warfighting" crap that Dubya is doing has our brave soldiers riding around waiting to get blown up and afraid of being charge with war crimes for daring to shoot back. It's pitiful that the poisons of fascist liberal brainwashing have sunk in so deep that WWII - which saw us nuke two Japanese cities and firebomb Dresden - is called "a good war", but if there is a single collateral casualty today, it's time to surrender, run away, and try everyone in government at Nuremberg.

Instead of focusing on Dubya REAL failures, you maroons live in a hysterical fantasy world in which Keith Olberman tells you what to think and then shriek like magpies in an effort to silence reasoned voices. You are more concerned that a terrorist be able to plot your deaths in private than that you stay alive. Liberalism is a suicidal ideology based on a delusional belief that if you bend over and grab your ankles for every brute, you'll be loved. No, you won't. You'll just get fucked in the ass. Fortunately, there are still a few people dedicated to protect your worthless asses from your own suicidal tendencies. Be thankful for us sane folks. We're keeping you morons alive.

BBSA is right about one thing
by BraneRobot
Apr 9th, 2008
01:31:17 PM
Hardly any politicians in this country have any respect for the Constitution. They shit on it, wipe their ass with it, and only trot it out when it serves their interests. Bush is a neo-Con. Neo-Cons are all former Liberals, so is it any surprise the neo-Cons created this mess? All Liberals know how to do is spend, curtail freedom, and start wars. It is what they do best.
Zoe- perhaps you're right
by SkinJob69
Apr 9th, 2008
01:32:17 PM
W could certainly backfire on Stone, a la Farenheit 911.

The sad thing is, Stone is capable of much greater films. He should return to his roots, imo, and look at Vietnam again ('write what you know', I suppose).

I could also see him doing something worthwhile about the Bay of Pigs fiasco, or the death of Marilyn Monroe, for example.

Batman Begins Sucks Ass...
by ZoeFan
Apr 9th, 2008
01:32:53 PM
I happen to know what is happening in our "contry". A lot of countries dislike America. However they seem to still buy our goods and trade with us. A lot a county's seem to say a lot of bad stuff about America. Yet what action are those countries taking...NONE. They just talk. We as America don't just talk, we take action. Would you prefer that we just sit back and let other countries destroy each other?
Bringing Back
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
01:33:40 PM
I really really do not expect anyone to beleive that. I brought up the fact only to prove a point. But as for Gore? He is part of the machine ofcourse and this machine has found a way to exploit what they are calling Global Warming. Part of this reason is to impose a world wide "Carbon" tax (again..for times sake please google). The Carbon tax is one of many gross intrusive monetary gaining systems to come out of the "Global Warming" scare. As for Chuck Hagel...I don't know to much about him other than if my memory serves me correctly he will retiring from the senate when his term is up. There was talk of him running for the Republican Party as a presidential candidate but I think that was put to rest and he has announced that he will not be running. I guess the real powers at work did not see much in him.
DirkBelig
by BraneRobot
Apr 9th, 2008
01:36:07 PM
Well fuckin' said my man! I would add one or two more things about what a fuck up Bush is. He prefers security and stability over democracy. And he is an ultra ANTI-nationalist. He despises America, despises our troops, is a true one worlder like most far Left open border idiots, has destroyed the dollar to weaken America and make us more equal with others. He is a disaster. It's a wonder more Liberals don't love him, cause aside from tax cuts, he has governed and waged war just as a Progressive would.
BBSA, I don't "beleive" you
by MattmanReturns
Apr 9th, 2008
01:36:57 PM
Zoe
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
01:38:22 PM
I am not just speakin of people across the pond who talk badly about the US because when you do go abroad you do find without a doubt that they (people from other Nations) have a strong disregard for the US. So ofcourse they will have nothing good to say. But you do have to weed through those and find the ones that do have things that are informative to say and are insightful and speak to some semblence of truth. Imagine that.. a journalist speaking of truth. ahah. About us taking action against other coutries Zoe, that my friend is a discussion that is about as complex as the death penalty and abortion.
BBSA is the man!
by BraneRobot
Apr 9th, 2008
01:38:59 PM
Keep it up dude, I appreciate your comments. BBSA is someone who actually loves America, not beholden to any stupid party, just an America lover. Keep it up man! Love when real Americans speak up.
Mattman
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
01:39:56 PM
"Cool"
ZoeFan is right though
by BraneRobot
Apr 9th, 2008
01:41:42 PM
I don't see any of these countries no longer accepting all the billions we give in aid. Like welfare queens, they'll scream all day about how much they hate the Man, but they'll take the Man's money with no compunction. And foreigners love America, they might not like Bush, but they love America, especially American culture.
And there's the first "we're keeping you alive" reference
by Dwide Shrewd
Apr 9th, 2008
01:42:43 PM
I almost like (read: piss on) that reference as much as the "if not for us, you'd all be speaking German!" line that war mongering fools like to bring out to *dazzle* ignoramouses who don't know any better.

Unfortunately for my war mongering friends, policing the globe and initiating pre-emptive attacks on sovereign nations actually makes us LESS SAFE. How long can we expect the rest of the world to stay off our backs? How long until they feel that our recklessness makes us a threat and part of an "axis of bad guys", ourselves? Quit kidding yourselves.

Brane
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
01:46:03 PM
You're right. I do love this country. Thanks. Especially when you see how bad other Nations have it. But you have to be aware of the bad shit that is happening to your freedoms everyday as these people in power continue to gorge power from what remains of our Republic. We are heading towards a unified monetary system just as Europe has done. Euro anyone? Well please look up this....** THE AMERO ** This will be a combined money system used between Canada, Mexico, and The US. This new system will be spearheaded by the joing of us and these other two contries to form the NORTH AMERICAN UNION. Google that and swallow it.
i agree
by palooka_boy
Apr 9th, 2008
01:46:32 PM
with the point that railing against bush is not, and never was, "brave" or "courageous". Especially in the realm of Hollywood, this wasn't so much taking a risk as it was like shitting a golden egg. For the record, I'm not a Republican, I don't support Bush, and I think Obama would make a fine president (though I don't think I'll be voting at all). The only thing that gets my goat is any kind of wild-eyed political screeching about how the other side is a) evil b) stupid or c) Nazis. In that respect, this movie will blow, based not only on the juvenile script we've been offered, but because itself will offer no unique or fair insight into the current president. In all likelihood, it will end up a piece that uses so-subtle-they're-obvious jabs at the president while making pretending to display that he is a "complex man."
Bring back Hitler, he gets shit done!
by wowsucks
Apr 9th, 2008
01:46:53 PM
Well ok maybe a little more gentle version :) Honest clone Hitler, program his hatred for terrorists, and wam many problems solved.
Do a movie about Karl Rove
by gotham_night
Apr 9th, 2008
01:49:27 PM
Cause everyone hates him.
Things to search for and learn
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
01:50:22 PM
Nafta SuperHighway, The AMERO, The North American Union, Bilderberg Group
In other news
by gotham_night
Apr 9th, 2008
01:50:26 PM
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Ahhhh, longing for the good old days...
by SkinJob69
Apr 9th, 2008
01:50:41 PM
when Saddam was running free, gassing the Kurds. And when on bright, sunny afternoons his gentlemen sons would rape brides-to-be and perhaps smoke a cigar as the groom was tossed into the wood-chipper. Ahhh, such nostalgia. Brings a tear to my eyes that all of that is gone...forever.
TOO SOOONNN!!!!!!!
by gboybama
Apr 9th, 2008
01:52:50 PM
Well obviously. Oh, and this movie is fictional crap. On a related note, I want one AMERICAN CITIZEN to tell me where THEIR civil liberties were MATERIALLY VIOLATED and I will give them a cookie and vote for Obama. The fanciful reduction of our civil liberties is a joke. It's nothing but fear mongering. I've yet to speak to someone who could answer my above criteria satisfactorily. Meanwhile, in the REAL world, we have a visable torrent of propaganda masquerading as entertainment constantly flowing out of Hollywood. If there was a shred of censorship in this country, do you think Oliver Stone would be able to get this movie made? Everything from Inconvenient Truth to Thank You For Smoking to Stop Loss to Rendition to Valley of Elah to Sicko to Manchurian Candidate (remake) to Lions for Lambs comes from the same exact political point of view and I've yet to hear of one creative person from any of these films being thrown into the Haliburton stockade. The worst torture these films and their backers have had to suffer is the lack of butts in the seats. News flash: most of America finds the repetitive, and patronizing, message if not wrong, then certainly preachy. And it's pretty boring being preached to by multi millionaires while paying $20 to get a shot at "butter flavoring" at a real theater. I'll save my money for The Dark Knight.
Nancy Pelosi & Ted Kennedy secret sex tape is out.
by wowsucks
Apr 9th, 2008
01:56:39 PM
only 1.99, get it while it's hot! *Warning may cause blindness, lack of erections for months (or longer), and cause vomit in the mouth.
gboybama
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
02:00:27 PM
Hey man..... You said this..."On a related note, I want one AMERICAN CITIZEN to tell me where THEIR civil liberties were MATERIALLY VIOLATED and I will give them a cookie and vote for Obama". End Quote....Well have you ever heard of the Patriot Act for starters. I've read it. You should too.
gboybama
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
02:02:12 PM
Or better yet man...Just go lay down and go to sleep until it's all over. That'll be easier on you.
Now we know why The Hulk
by welsh12uk
Apr 9th, 2008
02:05:07 PM
is so angry. He had a turd blossom in his pants. Oh and this will be one dull movie based on a dull man. HULK SMASH!
Taking away our rights...
by wowsucks
Apr 9th, 2008
02:08:01 PM
They stole my rights, and now I have to have a passport when I go on a cruise. Tell me directly how the Patriot act has changed your life and restricted you access, thoughts, the ability to say and speak? Ok maybe next time Janet Jacksons nipple will be fuzzed when she flashes so what. Why be worried unless you have something to hide? I say kick all the outsiders out and lets go back to being Americans and only letting people in our country with temp. passes. As for the government knowing about those naughty phone calls, or bad web surfing they already knew.
Can't wait for the boos when the trailers
by gotham_night
Apr 9th, 2008
02:10:35 PM
for this show up in theaters.
BBSA: I'd be curious to know your thoughts...
by SkinJob69
Apr 9th, 2008
02:11:35 PM
on the Council on Foreign Relations and the North American Union (CFR/NAU). Your posts remind me quite a bit another TB'er named redspankyhankey- that wouldn't be you with a new username, would it?
Wow..
by pk68
Apr 9th, 2008
02:11:44 PM
A movie by the guy that brought us JFK and Nixon. I'm sure this one will be based in fact as much as those were...oh wait...
This could potentially be a CAMP classic!
by IndustryKiller!
Apr 9th, 2008
02:13:00 PM
Oh man that sounds brilliant in the most unintentional way. Absoolutely ripe for drinking games and ironic viewing parties. Intelligent people actually wrote that? I probably disdain the Bush presidency every bit as much as Oliver Stone but.....jesus...I mean come on! Seriously? Does he really think that's going to play? I just hope the actors involved don't go down with the ship cause I reallly like Josh Brolin.
wowsucks
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
02:15:23 PM
Well it's not difficult to tell from your post that you only know anything about the Patriot Act from what you have been told through limited media coverage. But you can start here.... http://frwebgate.access.gpo.go v/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=10 7_cong_bills&docid=f:h3162enr. txt.pdf Now whether you understand what you are reading, well that is a different story entirely isn't it? Have fun with that.
Skin
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
02:16:52 PM
Nope mine was goofier. :)
BBSA: or the Buildeberger group for that matter
by SkinJob69
Apr 9th, 2008
02:17:28 PM
Because whenever someone brings that shit up (or Skull & Bones, and the like) it makes me think they're typing their material while wearing a tinfoil hat. And why not tell us what 'publication' you write for? You're anonymous here, right? (or maybe the Buildebergers are watching?)
He should do a Two Towers conspiracy
by gotham_night
Apr 9th, 2008
02:17:37 PM
movie.
Skin part 2
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
02:20:55 PM
As far as the Council on Foreign Relations and the North American Union goes, those two subjects are big topics and deeply entrenched in layer upon layer (as is most of the stuff I have belched out today), but so much so that I would only be waisting an even greater amount of time than I already have entertaining the monkeys that fling poo. So to answer your question Skin, I'd rather not. Hope that helps.
Turdblossom?
by Yeti
Apr 9th, 2008
02:22:35 PM
Sounds like the name of an alt-rock/country band.
GOOGLE THIS
by TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION
Apr 9th, 2008
02:23:42 PM
TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION.
That's o.k. BBSA
by SkinJob69
Apr 9th, 2008
02:24:09 PM
That response is adequate. If you're not redspanky, you two must go to the same meetings, apparently.
They NEED to make this a screwball comedy
by Richard Cranium
Apr 9th, 2008
02:24:09 PM
A serious movie about W would suck ass. But a screwball comedy about him has the potential to be pure gold. We need to turn this thing over to the Farrely brothers and see if we can't get their careers back on track. Just picture Bush and Cheney riding across the country on a tiny scooter ala 'Dumb and Dumber', and try not to laugh. I dare you.
Yes I actualy know the Patriot Act.
by wowsucks
Apr 9th, 2008
02:24:31 PM
Are you an illegal alien? Are you plotting domestic terrorism? Are you funneling funds? Etc. Etc. I have no problems with the searches etc. I have nothing to hide, and support strongly many aspects. All the US based laws are horrid and have kept many things and elements from being cleaned sort of speak. The funny thing about it is this, umm the government was already doing it. But know it's much easier. So once again are you hiding something? would you rather live in China? And again how has it hindered your life which was failed in response? I'm really wondering your point of view not trying to be a smart ass.
Skin part 3
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
02:24:55 PM
I am not only wearing an aluminum foil hat and body suit but I sit in a 8x8 room with copper layered walls and a super sophisticated router that manipulates my IP every three hundredth of a second. I also wear a chastity belt while I am surfing the net so that I may not deviate from my writing and wank off to pics of Milla Jovavich.
Ah, I always knew Bush was witty
by gotham_night
Apr 9th, 2008
02:25:12 PM
So witty.
Shit for Branes
by Node32774
Apr 9th, 2008
02:27:41 PM
Ne Cons were all former liberals, huh? Name one.
Well, BBSA, at least you have a sense of humor
by SkinJob69
Apr 9th, 2008
02:28:07 PM
and personality. And, as Jules said, "personality goes a long way."
Neo Cons
by PirateEmery
Apr 9th, 2008
02:31:37 PM
Neo Cons truly are the Liberal Boogey Man.

Just like Socialists are the Conservative Boogey Man. Hey, wait a second...

SPECIAL OLYMPICS
by KosherWookie
Apr 9th, 2008
02:33:51 PM
Man, if ever there were a time to invoke the Special Olympics metaphor during a Talkback, this is it: Arguing on the Internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. What's better than winning? NOT BEING RETARDED.
wowsucks
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
02:36:28 PM
The hinderance in mine or your daily life happens when you least expect it. It happens when you seek to obtain something or are obtained for something that you may or may not have done. My point is this...we are very limited in what it is you think we can do in this country. For instance did you know that you really do not own anything in this country because your property belongs to a corporation? Do you want to know what that corporations name is? How about THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA? I bet you did not know that did you? THE GOOD OLE US is a corporation...LOOK IT UP. It's a fact. And can you guess who the accountant is for the US Corp? That's right...The IRS. And who does the US Corp borrow money from? That's right...The Federal Reserve Corp who is in controlling power with the Bank Of England which was taken over by the Rothchilds during Napoleans war. Want me to keep going? You have to start digging in and start connecting the dots my friend. You are right when you said "the government was already doing it."
But arguing on the net is fun
by gotham_night
Apr 9th, 2008
02:36:36 PM
that's what its for.
Damn the Internets!
by welsh12uk
Apr 9th, 2008
02:36:50 PM
Thanks Skin...
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
02:37:55 PM
No ill will ever. People won't listen to you if you put them down.
gotham_night
by KosherWookie
Apr 9th, 2008
02:38:36 PM
True--- I'm just cracking a Foster's and watching/giggling...
Node
by BraneRobot
Apr 9th, 2008
02:42:18 PM
Ron Silver for one.
PirateEmery, it's the right-wingers who hate
by Lance Rocke
Apr 9th, 2008
02:44:40 PM
Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, etc. Nuff said
At some boards it's fun because people
by gotham_night
Apr 9th, 2008
02:46:03 PM
get banned because the mod didn't like what you said. Damn some mods are just assholes.
Who really wants to see this?
by skycrapper
Apr 9th, 2008
02:47:07 PM
I don't see the neccessity of this film. Especially from the most over-rated director ever.
Ok now a real answer. Hillary is that you?
by wowsucks
Apr 9th, 2008
02:49:13 PM
And according to X Files FEMA is the one we really need to watch out for. Honest dude make my day, and PLEASE tell me you are college student in Maryland? ha. But really Stop reading articles and make a personal judgmental assessment. Like people just learned they really don't own things, shocker! It's called the big wheel sort of speak. It's just funny and will never change and is and has be happen since far before the point of the conversation/question, the Patriot Act. You learn to work within a system or your running around screaming with your hands in the air "it's not right, the sky is falling" You still have avoided the question which I am just not going to bother with again. This is proving to go nowhere fast.
Zionists don't count Brane.
by Node32774
Apr 9th, 2008
02:49:38 PM
Lance
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
02:50:38 PM
We all "hate" when the exception to the rule does not apply to us. All sides hate equally and all parties suffer from hypocrasy. Keep in mind though that parties do not exist to the real powers as we think they do. The real powers power is in money and well...power (received through birth rights, family lineage etc..)not in the party that they would have you think they back, because they don't. Umm. Get it?
;) Yes arguing is fun.
by wowsucks
Apr 9th, 2008
02:54:07 PM
But some people just take things to personal or to heart. Either way. I still think this movie is to soon, and I agree a comedy would have been a profitable/fun direction. (If not to easy) Take care...
Predictions
by MarkWhittington
Apr 9th, 2008
02:57:03 PM
(1) This movie will bomb big time. (2) In a few years, GW Bush will be one of the most beloved ex Presidents in history.
This movies gonna suck anyway
by gotham_night
Apr 9th, 2008
02:57:34 PM
Some studio is seriously screwed thinking people will watch this.
wowsucks part 2
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
02:58:41 PM
You actually asked me a total of 6 questions in your last TB. I respoded though to your main point (if that is what it was). I did answer your question it is *cliche* not what you wanted to hear. But just in case you forgot your last post and all six of it's questions here they are: 1)Are you an illegal alien? 2)Are you plotting domestic terrorism? 3)Are you funneling funds? 4)So once again are you hiding something? 5)would you rather live in China? 6)And again how has it hindered your life which was failed in response?** Got it**?
Thanks Talkbackers....
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
03:07:01 PM
I am signing off for good. My two or three days in the TB's have been fun, headache inducing and have given me something to write about again. Can't say as to how soon I will be able to do a story about this because I do not dictate these types of things but it will happen. I am retiring the Batman Begins Sucks Ass handle and I am going back to work. It's been a nice vacation these last few days and I hope that you guys will keep reading your USA Today's. ;)
I read Time Magazine!
by gotham_night
Apr 9th, 2008
03:07:56 PM
Cause I like big pictures.
HEY BB SUCKS ASS
by BringingSexyBack
Apr 9th, 2008
03:08:49 PM
Appreciate your thoughts. Don't know much about any Carbon Tax, but if it's to penalize offenders or used to curb pollution, it might be worthwhile. Global Warming is not a baseless scare, and needs to be addressed. As important is our ridiculous dependence on fossil fuels when we should be investing in alternative energy R&D. I'd read a profile on Chuck Hagel in Time some months back. I swear if that man was running I wouldn't even give a second thought about throwing him my vote, and dragging my family to vote for him too.
Bringingsexy
by Batman Begins Sucks Ass
Apr 9th, 2008
03:14:50 PM
Thanks. Peace.
You guys are effin' retarded...
by inhopelandish
Apr 9th, 2008
03:18:51 PM
you cant judge a film by the first five pages of a screenplay thats out-of-date. jesus... go read the first five pages of 'Good Will Hunting'... it reads terribly judging by what we've read... we still cant judge this project at all yet. the script is two drafts old, i honestly think, in a project like this the dialouge, as it is on paper, is going to be the least of your concerns considering they'll most likely continue to re-shape it up until right after the scenes are SHOT. look at the talent on board. Thank God they're not as dumb as you folks and can see past the words on the page or else this film might never be made. I have no problem with Stone trying to portray the bush administration as, by the looks of it, real people and not just an over-dramatised and "serious" version of how they're portrayed in supposed "Tell all books" and a bias media... thats very ambitious of them considering its usually never done in film. I love the idea of seeing that image of Bush walking out onto that baseball field and feeling home. I like the idea of a conversation like that in the white house... it puts the players in the drama at a more personable level (you honestly think that scene will have the same DIALOGUE as it does now when it comes out? give me a break...) The idea of exploring his frat days is fascinating... and I dont care how brilliant you are, you could be fucking Francis Ford Coppola and ANY frat scene, truthfully and honestly written, is gonna read bad on paper... get a life you guys... wait till you get more info on the project before condemning it... there are some good ideas and good talent here... you honestly talk like a bunch of idiots sometimes.
Sounds familiar...
by Hasselhoffflying
Apr 9th, 2008
03:19:12 PM
is that the Mighty Wurlitzer I hear again like when Newsweek belched out their disinformation about JFK long before they saw the movie??? NSAM 263 anyone? http://www.jfklancer.com/NSAM2 63.html
Feels kinda fake-y. Or a VERY unpolished draft
by ricarleite
Apr 9th, 2008
03:19:45 PM
Doesn't feel like a professional-made screenplay, no structure.
a full Script Review
by Stevie Grant
Apr 9th, 2008
03:22:33 PM
can be found over at Slate.com
BBSA Dude if thats true...
by wowsucks
Apr 9th, 2008
03:23:49 PM
You are a very bad lawyer who talks more then you act. ****And again how has it hindered your life which was failed in response?***** I'm pretty sure that was asking for a direct answer not a vague? So according to your reply's "yawn" You did not answer one single question directly in other then vague tongue and cheek, or otherwise as many words with no specifics or direct response. We can talk maybe's, if's, could's, mights, oh my. until we are blue in the face. Or better yet lets share others views when asked a question directly expecting a response about ourself? **Got it** Either way the 6 questions as you cleverly counted where not answered upon your direct experience either. **But keep sticking to your lack of scope and understanding I can tell your success will be measured in my tax dollars.
Ain't it Politcal News
by gotham_night
Apr 9th, 2008
03:25:23 PM
Wow, this site got political.
"...keep reading your USA Today's."
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Apr 9th, 2008
03:30:11 PM
BBSA = Craig Wilson???!!!

So, he created his screenname to first talk smack about BATMAN BEGINS and then post a lot of armchair politics and bullshit Alex Jones-type stuff?!

Alrighty then...

everybody watch Bush's War
by Shigeru
Apr 9th, 2008
03:30:59 PM
it's online on the Frontline site. excellent.
Funny How America Sucks, Yet No One Leaves...
by DirkBelig
Apr 9th, 2008
03:31:17 PM
Last I checked, the airports are still open and you people who are so enthusiastic for fascist and socialist governments are free to go where you'll be more comfortable, leaving us poor, benighted proles to wallow and die in our own filth.

Still here? Yeah, figured you would be. I don't know why the world thinks it's OK to demand that we not inflict our values on them while demanding that we adopt their failed socialist policies in order to more closely emulate them.

wowsucks said...
by redhankyspanky
Apr 9th, 2008
03:33:49 PM
"You learn to work within a system or your running around screaming with your hands in the air "it's not right, the sky is falling"' ....and he's still one step ahead of you, by the fact that he has indeed scrutinized the facts that point to the only available conclusion: that there is indeed a threat to our liberty and way of life. How are you "working within the system?, when you cant even accept the fact that the "Patriot" Act is unconstitutional and un-American? We were told it was for terrorism, but look at Elliot Spitzer. The Patriot Act was used to take him down, and he may be a whore-monger, but last I heard thats a far cry from being a "terrist". The "Patriot" Act isnt for terrorism. Its for you and me. Everything "batman begins sucksass" said is accurate. Except for the part about "batman begins". He advised you to do your homework, but apparently youd rather stand around posturing, and making excuses for not having the spine to admit that the nation we all love is fast becoming a panopticon.
Shigeru
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Apr 9th, 2008
03:34:20 PM
Yeah, I was pimping that in one of the other Stone TBs (I think). FRONTLINE continues to do incredible work.

NO END IN SIGHT is a good film as well.

IF YOUR GOVERNMENT IS DOING THE COUNTRY WRONG
by BringingSexyBack
Apr 9th, 2008
03:34:59 PM
You fix it, not abandon it. For fuck's sake ...
I THINK THE USA TODAY COMMENT WAS A FALSE FLAG
by BringingSexyBack
Apr 9th, 2008
03:36:03 PM
No way is he going to tell us who he writes for. Personally, I think it's Devin.
Why isn't BSB banned
by gotham_night
Apr 9th, 2008
03:37:07 PM
all he does is post useless shit.
THAT'S LIKE SAYING IF YOU HATE AICN'S LIBERAL SLANT THEN LEAVE
by BringingSexyBack
Apr 9th, 2008
03:37:13 PM
on second thought ...
Get UWE BOLL to direct this ASAP!
by Lenny8
Apr 9th, 2008
03:38:09 PM
'nuff said.
YOU'RE JUST MAD CUZ I FUCKED YOUR MOTHER
by BringingSexyBack
Apr 9th, 2008
03:38:30 PM
and tied you up and made you watch. Now who's your daddy? Bend over.
BSB you're just an ass
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