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First Behind The Scenes Video of the WATCHMEN!!!

Rolex-Man! Mighty Timex! The Invincible Seiko! by nolan bautista	Apr 6th, 2008 12:35:31 PM
..my favorite is and will always be The Grandfather Clock vs.Hour-Glass..alright i'll stop
Sets look good. by Pariah74	Apr 6th, 2008 12:35:42 PM
Now how about some word on the really important part...the story. Have they, or have they not changed the ending?
as in stop..Stop-Watch by nolan bautista	Apr 6th, 2008 12:37:02 PM
..ok gotta go..have a good Sunday everyone
did I capitalize THE to make it part of the title? by HEADGEEK	Apr 6th, 2008 12:54:25 PM
NO - that 'the' was part of the sentence that led to the title - now go put some clothes on you fucking Smurfy nudist!
This film could go either way for me... by Pawprint	Apr 6th, 2008 12:54:45 PM
I felt better after having seen the stills of the characters in costume, but there's a lot could go wrong... And I still think the guy playing Rorschach is the wrong choice (out of costume in 'Kovacs Disguise').
ZOMG! They built sets! by thebearovingian	Apr 6th, 2008 12:55:19 PM
Big frickin' deal. IMNSHO.
so you'd rather they were all CG? by Datascream	Apr 6th, 2008 01:00:23 PM
hmph...what a tool you are.
My condolences Harry by nolan bautista	Apr 6th, 2008 01:02:35 PM
I heard about your Grandmother passing away..my prayers and symphaties
Find it ironically funny by skimn	Apr 6th, 2008 01:14:14 PM
that the production designer states that its important to establish a world that is real, just as a car drives toward a giant green screen. This does remind me a bit of the behind the scenes set building of Blade Runner, but retro past, instead of refitted future.
Was that a LCD HDTV in the apartment set? by EricVader1980	Apr 6th, 2008 01:17:32 PM
Right around the 1:40 mark...Did they have those in 1985?
I clapped by StrokerX	Apr 6th, 2008 01:28:27 PM
when i saw the Comedian sitting down in front of the tube. This is gonna be great!
In Snyder I Trust by Ambush_Bug	Apr 6th, 2008 01:30:08 PM

That was awesome. by cerebulon	Apr 6th, 2008 01:30:54 PM
Beyond the films themselves, I'd say the prop and set work hold the most fascination for me. Great video and thank you for posting it!
In Snyder I Trust by Ambush_Bug	Apr 6th, 2008 01:32:46 PM
He hasn't failed me yet. DotD and 300 were very impressive. He's obviously put a lot of care into the planning of The Watchmen. How can you argue with the character pics and this behind-the-scenes footage? Can't wait to see what this guy's going to be doing in ten years.
When I see behind-the-scenes stuff, I'm always amazed at how by CreasyBear	Apr 6th, 2008 01:39:34 PM
far they have to go for a few minutes of actual movie footage of a street or jail. The pricetags for set-work like that has to be staggering. Reminds me of the 30 Days of Night DVD bts featurette showing how the whole Alaskan town was built. Twice. But then I'll see spy shots of moviemakers actually shooting on-location, and with the headaches of uncontrolled people wandering around, city-imposed time limits, etc., it seems like filmmakers are screwed either way. Reminds me what a huge gamble big-budget movies are.
Conundrum by Mr. Lahey	Apr 6th, 2008 02:08:34 PM
Here's the thing: I know Watchmen is regarded as a classic, but I've never read it. Should I check it out before the movie, or go into the movie not knowing diddly? I picked up Sin City when it was first collected into a graphic novel in the early 90s, so I was only aware of the Marv section of the movie. I had never read 300 before seeing the movie, so I had no expectations. I ended up seeing that 3 times in the theater and picking up the HDDVD. So, should I read the graphic novel or put my faith into the director of this movie?
watchmen < heroes by BadMrWonka	Apr 6th, 2008 02:09:34 PM
that's right I said it--rub on your titties!
krack by Mr. Lahey	Apr 6th, 2008 02:20:27 PM
Thanks. Yeah, I am leaning towards the movie first. It looks like there will be a Sin City-esque literal adaptation.
THEY BETTER GET ME JUST RIGHT by AdrianVeidt	Apr 6th, 2008 02:22:22 PM
Just saying.
"Futuristic" cars by Thunderbolt Ross	Apr 6th, 2008 02:29:20 PM
I'm kind of disappointed there aren't any a la the comic.
looks good by redkamel	Apr 6th, 2008 02:48:04 PM
man that was a nice. Hopes are high for the movie...already getting tingles for Rorschach/jail...
Holy Shitballs!!! by kungfuhustler84	Apr 6th, 2008 02:52:49 PM
I have never been so excited for a movie in my whole life. I just hope it maintains that cerebral flair as well as the visceral. After what he did with 300, I must say I have very high hopes for this one. Watchmen is one of the most meticulously detailed works of literature ever created, and it will be hard to cram it all in. Let us pray...
Just saying... by rutgersjaffo	Apr 6th, 2008 02:57:50 PM
I like the look of this, but based on a couple of other things, I am all sorts of ready to be disappointed with what they may have done charcter and story-wise. Still looking forward to seeing it though!
Read it first! by PackyMcCracken	Apr 6th, 2008 03:01:13 PM
I'd say read it first. The quality of Watchmen as a comic book goes much deeper than just the story. It's also about the way the story is told panel to panel that make it such a landmark book. I have high hopes for the movie and have only been slightly let down by the costumes for Night Owl and Ozy (I'm tired of the muscled armor look). Do yourself a favor and read it. It's worth the time and you will (hopefully) get a better understanding of why it gets such high praise.
Read it a few weeks ago by THE KNIGHT	Apr 6th, 2008 03:10:48 PM
and seeing it come to life in the making is pretty cool... Looking forward to it!
THE ENDING???? by THE KNIGHT	Apr 6th, 2008 03:11:21 PM
What's all this talk about the ending being changed? What could they possibly change the ending to without ruining it?
League of Extraordinary Watchman by brassai2003	Apr 6th, 2008 03:12:08 PM
Yep. that is what we're in for in '09.
Mr. Lahey by BGDAWES	Apr 6th, 2008 03:29:44 PM
I'd definitely read the book. It's just so damn good. I read an average of about three books every two months and Watchmen was honestly one of the best books I've read in the past couple of years. You might feel like a geek at first because it's a damn comic book about wannabe super hero's but in a week you'll be joking with your girlfriend about how you want to quit your job and become a masked adventurer like I did. Seriously, read the book. I can't wait for the film, I really can't, but I'm glad I had the opportunity to enjoy the book first before I knew what was going to happen after watching an adaption on the big screen.
Might actually be good. by kirttrik	Apr 6th, 2008 03:34:22 PM
I wonder if Alan Moore's going to attach his name to this one.
I vote read it first by waggy	Apr 6th, 2008 03:58:52 PM
Yeah, i'm usually a "movie first" kind of guy, but Watchmen is likely the best comic you will ever read, so it's best to get the full unfiltered and untainted experience first.
The Ending...Again... by TroutMaskReplicant	Apr 6th, 2008 04:08:39 PM
Apparently Snyder will fight to keep the ending away from the James Bond villain territory that earlier script drafts entered into, but I have a feeling they might soften the blow death-wise...make it a little less of a "downer"...
READ IT FIRST!!! by ZeroCorpse	Apr 6th, 2008 04:23:39 PM
Do NOT go into the book with the imagery and flavor of the movie on your mind. It's MUCH better to let the book tell you the story, and then let the movie give you a different interpretation of it. If you see the movie first, I fear it will taint the book.
Very nice by Oknight	Apr 6th, 2008 04:24:45 PM
Closest thing I have to a quibble, so far, is-- why wouldn't you go with Gold for Adrien Veidt's outfit? Considering how much they've released (and realizing that you HAVE to cut/condense the story) I'm stunned. I figured Hollis would just be dropped, but they're building his place-- I thought they might drop Rorshach's jail adventure, but they're building it-- the ending DOES take place at Karnak in Antarctica-- the comics ARE pirate-oriented (I ASSUME that will just be set-reference) As per the ending, you can certainly change the details of the plan without damaging the story so long as the end-effect is the same (it just has to be a REALLY big "joke" that has the same desired effect and results in similar loss of life for the moral ambivalence)
ZeroCorpse: I think you're dead wrong by Oknight	Apr 6th, 2008 04:29:26 PM
I've tried it both ways on many properies and -- I think-- FAR better to get the distortion of the adaptation first. --Unless you are actually approaching this property as a mystery (its a fairly sucky mystery) and don't want to know who the villians are (good luck)-- The original will always delight with its purer, fuller vision and you'll almost immediately dismiss the adaptation when reading.
Ending... by lex romero	Apr 6th, 2008 04:29:38 PM
Didn't an older script have a space laser at the end? I think that could work in a similar manner to the comics ending. Dunno if they kept it.
Brunomac by Oknight	Apr 6th, 2008 04:33:03 PM
Yeah, but I can see her mother designing it-- as long as she's properly embarassed but kind-of likes the attention
What are your "condolences Harry"? by GeekyAnimeNerd79Beyotch	Apr 6th, 2008 04:36:13 PM
OHHHHHH... Do you mean "condolences, Harry"?
Wow! by rbatty024	Apr 6th, 2008 04:55:25 PM
That looks like shit. A hack director ruining a great work.
Defninitely read the original comic first... by kungfuhustler84	Apr 6th, 2008 05:28:42 PM
About three times to make sure you really got it. Then watch the movie. They better not change the ending, damnit.
sweet sweet sweet by lucky slevin	Apr 6th, 2008 05:40:07 PM
sweet
WE ALL COMPLAIN.... by Underoos Hero	Apr 6th, 2008 05:57:22 PM
...and have the right to when a movie sucks (like Batman Begins). But even I have to have immense respect for the amount of time, building and planning it took to bring that movie (BB) and all other movies to the screen. Most everyone takes all of this hard work for granted and sees it as just disposable swag, but the movie making process is very inspiring and exhilirating. Hell, I'll even watch the behind the scenes or making of footage on a bad movie (like Batman Begins) because it's plain cool as shit.
Underoos Hero by THE KNIGHT	Apr 6th, 2008 06:08:18 PM
thinking batman begins is a bad movie makes you a complete moron. I shouldn't knock you for your tastes but I've seen your posts before and you're a pretty arrogant person. tisk tisk.. Looking forward to seeing you on the line for the dark knight.
crushed sicily by The 6th Conchord	Apr 6th, 2008 06:09:46 PM
Shoot, if you're all busy, heck, I'LL watch the Watchmen.
i agree by Hyperion Consul	Apr 6th, 2008 06:15:29 PM
batman begins was a bad movie. the villians were boring. the story was boring. the batsuit still looked like crap. the third act could not have been more cliche. am i missing anything?
THE KNIGHT by Underoos Hero	Apr 6th, 2008 06:16:41 PM
Thank you for the moron comment and calling me arrogant. We must have met because you seem to know me really well. Anywhoo, I'm glad you read my posts and if you would ever like for me to autograph one of my posts for you, you may print out the one you like the most and mail it me so that I may personaly sign and date it for you. E-mai mail here: isuck@gurmomsawhore.com and I will give you a PO Box. Thanks for watching. Peace
ONE MORE THING THE KNIGHT by Underoos Hero	Apr 6th, 2008 06:20:13 PM
If that inbox is full you may also e-mail me at urdasgay@urmomhasacock.com. Thanks silly and good luck.
THE KNIGHT...Sorry correction by Underoos Hero	Apr 6th, 2008 06:23:19 PM
that last e-mail was supposed to be urdadsgay@urmomhasacock.com. Ok good that's done. Hey, let's chat some time. Tootles. giggles to self and posts talkback
lots of movies look good and suck by INWOsuxRED	Apr 6th, 2008 06:32:41 PM
If they're changing the ending to this, I think it will leave people walking out of the theater wondering what was the point. The ending, even if ripped off, was the point.
I'm glad they are changing the ending by Celedhring	Apr 6th, 2008 07:04:27 PM
Don't get me wrong, I like the original ending, but what I hate about adaptations is that I know the whole plot before going in. Now I'll still be intrigued to know what will happen.
The ending will have to be changed by micbenxyy	Apr 6th, 2008 07:07:56 PM
1. Post 9/11 aftermath in Bush's America, no one in their right mind will find the 'A massive threat to the world will unite all it's people' plot of the original GN at all believable. That ending would evoke hails of derisive laughter. I will go so far as to state that Alan Moore would find that notion laughable today.
Costumes by ZeroCorpse	Apr 6th, 2008 07:19:02 PM
I always thought the costumes should look a little silly in real life. Part of the point of the book is that these are grown people-- adults who are otherwise somewhat normal-- who dress up in silly costumes and fight crime, and that the public perceived them as "heroic, but just a little pathetic." So costumes that don't look perfect, or that come off a little tacky, are alright with me. That's where the story should lead-- Without going off into totally funny, stupid parody, of course.
The Ending...Again...Again... by TroutMaskReplicant	Apr 6th, 2008 07:25:10 PM
The ending of Watchmen bears a remarkable resemblance to statements Ronald Reagan made between 1985 and 1987 about humanity uniting against an "external" threat. I don't know if Moore was influenced by Reagan (probably they were both influenced by someone else, like Carl Sagan)...but it gives the ending a historical context.
difference between the ending and 9/11 (spoilers) by waggy	Apr 6th, 2008 07:29:52 PM
The ending in Watchmen gave the world a common enemy and made the Cold War irrelevant because of a greater threat. It wasn't about sympathy, it was about practicality and immediacy. And Dr Manhattan's words at the end show that the situation is far from resolved, just delayed. The ending still works.
Disagree micbenxyy by Pariah74	Apr 6th, 2008 07:31:36 PM
First of all that would only really be laughable if it were set in post 9/11 Bush's America. It isn't. Second of all I don't recall the plan being successful. Third of all, changing that ending renders moot most of the book. The book is more than a cut and dry superhero story. It's got layers upon layers like an onion, or any well written novel. Changing something as fundamental as Ozymandias' plan...nay his entire philosophy would just unravel the whole fabric.
HDTV by MartinBlank	Apr 6th, 2008 07:39:03 PM
Someone asked if there was an HDTV in the footage and if so, would they have had that in 1985. If it is one, remember that Dr. Manhattan's arrival pushed technology forward quite a bit from where it was in our 1985. So there wouldn't be much of anything wrong with Edward Blake or Adrian Veidt kicking back to watch a Blu-ray or something.
I wanna see by Pariah74	Apr 6th, 2008 07:44:15 PM
the weird cigarettes with spherical deals on them. The healthy smokes or whatever they are! lol. And it better have Gay Women Against Rape in it! GWAR!!
And of course... by TroutMaskReplicant	Apr 6th, 2008 07:55:21 PM
Where are the electric cars? I think there's a conspiracy here. Is the film being funded by the Oil lobby? ;-) Maybe they were just too expensive for a background detail? Maybe they're saving them for later I suppose...
I have to agree that the ending still works. by Gwai Lo	Apr 6th, 2008 08:01:05 PM
Americans are so self centered. What, the world is supposed to unite under one common cause because the WTC buildings got attacked? An alien attack is a little bit of a different story, because it represents a specific universal threat. As much as the current climate in America may convince some otherwise, terrorism is not a specific universal threat.
After 300... by Stollentroll	Apr 6th, 2008 08:47:52 PM
...I'll avoid Zack Snyder movies like the plague.
Will this really be only two hours? by kungfuhustler84	Apr 6th, 2008 09:17:50 PM
There's no way. Well there is, but I think I would be pretty upset as a fan if certain scenes were missing, no matter how much they really meant to the plot. (Although pretty much everything ties together at the end.)
And I can't understand any of the 300 haters. by kungfuhustler84	Apr 6th, 2008 09:19:39 PM
Sure it missed a lot of the cruelness of the Spartans but most of it was pretty much spot on. The inclusion of the scenes with Leonidas's wife may have seemed a bit superfluous but it helped to explain the situation back in Sparta a little better. And Batman Begins sucked? Bitch please.
And yes by kungfuhustler84	Apr 6th, 2008 09:23:17 PM

Yes Mcpoops by kungfuhustler84	Apr 6th, 2008 09:23:33 PM

Twas indeed by kungfuhustler84	Apr 6th, 2008 09:23:49 PM
the bees knees
Doc Manhattan, r u from Winnepeg? by Bobo_Vision	Apr 6th, 2008 09:25:54 PM
I remember a Canadian band called "The Watchmen" that had some hits in the 90's up in Canada. Is that u?
Agreed about general "Ending" sentiment by Le Vicious Fishus	Apr 6th, 2008 09:29:56 PM
[story spoilers ahead] I'd ideally like the ending to be precisely the same as in the comics. No alternate ending will be a fraction as horrifying and shocking and thought-provoking as the ending of the WATCHMEN comics. If they go the giant, magnifying glass in the sky, death ray, I'm gonna be right pissed. The ending MUST directly point to a threat from extradimensional, Lovecraftian aliens. Nothing else is terrifying enough for the world to unite.
Agree with the ending but I still say... by Pariah74	Apr 6th, 2008 10:08:14 PM
The world didn't unite. It's all political and superfluous, not meaningful. Heroes are still in hiding, people still hate the Russians and they make a reference to the Reagan years ahead (although they say Robert Redford.) His plan failed.
Oh, absolutely agreed, Pariah74 by Le Vicious Fishus	Apr 6th, 2008 10:15:39 PM
To me, it's the ultimate point of the story. In the short run, O's plan SEEMS to have worked, but it's VERY obvious that it's all going to fall apart (sooner rather than later if R's missive is actually read--which seems more than likely). We're on the same page.
Le Vicious Fishus by TroutMaskReplicant	Apr 6th, 2008 10:18:21 PM
Actually I think the most recent "wrong" ending (Tse's draft) involved framing a certain character using a weapon made from his own cutting edge research. Also isn't Snyder going for something closer to three hours? The watchmencomicmovie site tends to have a fair bit of useful info...
This Will be FAN-FUCKIN-TASTIC!!! by grievenom	Apr 7th, 2008 01:43:30 AM
Wait and see.
I'm a bit worried... by m_reporter	Apr 7th, 2008 03:02:29 AM
... didn't like the dotd remake, and 300 was average at best. I think that watchmen is a bit too much for Snyder. Hes an ok visual filmmaker, but he didn't prove himself in the storytelling department if you ask me.
Once again it amazes me how people couldn't by travis-dane	Apr 7th, 2008 05:22:31 AM
follow the action in skywalkerfamily. I bet a gotham_night drama would give you people a headache.
Snyder's building the graphic novel brick by brick by pipergates	Apr 7th, 2008 06:10:57 AM
Thats so true to the comic in such detail its amazing.
who's watching the Watchmen?Alan Moore should be by pipergates	Apr 7th, 2008 06:15:20 AM
even he should agree that so far its looking pretty good
[Spoilers] the Ending by Abhimanyu	Apr 7th, 2008 06:37:05 AM
I got into "Heroes" pretty late and just finished the first season. I can see all the "homages" but how is Watchmen going to do the NY disaster finale after Heroes has already ripped it off, to such popularity at that?
Book vs Film by Thunderbolt Ross	Apr 7th, 2008 07:17:21 AM
Whatever you do, don't read the book right before the movie comes out. It's unfair to the film to have the book so fresh in your mind - it'll fall short whether it deserves to or not.
COOL by caltsoudas	Apr 7th, 2008 07:51:04 AM
Well at least we know the art direction has been handled brilliantly. What's had ME worried from the start is whether the performances will be good or whether the actors will be too cartoony with their roles. Snyder is not exactly an actors' director. I have a feeling the tone of this is going to end up seeming very contrived and cartoony.
You may have just watched Heroes season 1 by INWOsuxRED	Apr 7th, 2008 09:28:01 AM
but everyone else watched it a long time ago and forgot about it. When this gets released, half the hype will be about how it comes from an acclaimed comic book. I don't see anything Heroes did getting in the way of Watchmen. Having a bunch of Hollywood douche bags decide they know how the story should end better than Moore did is the problem this film faces.
at approximately 2:02 by they call it the dip	Apr 7th, 2008 09:42:00 AM
...is that a small bit of green-screen behind that clock on the mantle? That was the weirdest damn thing.
It's a tough adaptation... by they call it the dip	Apr 7th, 2008 09:46:53 AM
.... but it's obvious there's a lot of love going into it. If they fuck up, they will go out in a blaze of glory. I was no big 300 fan but from what I can tell it's a pretty faithful adaptation. Same with Sin City. Mayhaps it's the source material from Frank Miller I have a problem with...
After the first character pictures were released by ELGordo	Apr 7th, 2008 10:16:55 AM
I read the book again. I saw that I had completely forgotten a large chunk of the story and then I figured that the character pictures were of the superheroes in their younger days. The story goes back and forth in time, when they reigned supreme and then when superheroes were banned. in the picture The Comedian doesn't have the scar that he has later on in the story so that's why I'm hoping they are showing both time periods and those are pictures of them all cool and slender. It also made me wonder how in the hell they are going to make a single movie out of this. The story is so massive and when they include all the Pirate story as well it's going to be one massive picture.
Alan Moore has nothing to do with this shit.... by havehope	Apr 7th, 2008 10:57:08 AM
and that's all that matters
i'm thinking the pirate story.. by they call it the dip	Apr 7th, 2008 11:28:53 AM
... should be a separate short film to go before the movie. That would be great. Bring in some guest director for it who's NOT robert rodriguez.
I hope that the pirates... by ImperialMarchFace	Apr 7th, 2008 12:43:49 PM
are not part of the movie. The pirate storyline worked in the book because, when the guy was reading the pirate comics, each panel would have part pirate story and part actual story, and there was always a link between them. But that's because of words. This is a movie. I just don't see how they'll overlap the pirate thing into the movie without it seeming ridiculous. And The Watchmen is awesome without the pirates. I liked it in the book, but please not the movie.
Oh, and... by ImperialMarchFace	Apr 7th, 2008 12:47:49 PM
this is going to be a long year of waiting. I can't believe Jeffrey Dean Morgan is the dead character. Weirdest thing to get type-cast as. But he should be good. I don't know how Billy Crudup is going to play Dr. Manhattan, that should be interesting. What do you guys think the actual last scene in the movie will be? The newspaper guys and the Roscharch journal reference like in the story, or something else?
For the record... by rutgersjaffo	Apr 7th, 2008 01:15:04 PM
...in the words of my on-set guy, 'Alan Moore has nothing to do with this because he is currently the mayor of crazy town...'
The Black Freighter... by rutgersjaffo	Apr 7th, 2008 01:16:20 PM
...storyline is being done in 2D cel animation as an extra for the DVD, but it is not being done by Imageworks.
phoenixmagi2... by rutgersjaffo	Apr 7th, 2008 01:23:55 PM
...That is what I am worried about. My guy was all about how they were being faithful to the books, but now that it's done, he admitted to me last weekend when I asked about it being character-driven that they 'kind of took it in another direction...' I am ready to be disappointed, but will see it anyway.
About the pirate story... by taintyourwagon	Apr 7th, 2008 03:44:09 PM
If I'm not mistaken, I'm pretty sure I read here at aicn that the pirate story would show up in the dvd release, like those Lord of the Rings special editions. This works for me, because the first time I read Watchmen I was young and dumb and didn't get why it was in there. But after reading it many times since, it's the best part of the whole story. I just don't think the American idiot movie going public would understand why it's there. Plus, that knocks 10-15 minutes of story out of an already long movie (it's gotta be 3+ hours, right?) So if they save it for a 4 hour dvd SE, they will make sure fanboys like myself will buy that shit like cocaine laced apples. Sorry, been re-reading Transmet, damn it rules.
The Watchman (band) by buffywrestling	Apr 7th, 2008 09:30:38 PM
Bobo, I remember them too! Boneyard tree...
Hey Harry! Those ain't exclamation marks! :O by MrMysteryGuest	Apr 7th, 2008 11:07:38 PM

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