Glad Devestator will be in it. He is a much loved character. Hopefully Soundwave will be included and EJECTS THE TAPES FROM HIS CHEST! Well they dont have to be tapes, they can be some kind of cybertronian information storage rectangle.

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perhaps Bay and co. will get with the program for round 2?

WHy does it seem people never take that into consideration?

1) A film making money at the BO does NOT make it a "good" quality film

2) Just because someone's only expectations for a film is that it show "robots detroying things" doesn't mean that meeting this expectation automatically makes it a "good" quality film. If that was all you wanted to see, why didn't you just go rent Robot Jox?

If someone's goign to make a movie based on a property that has a built-in audience due to its history and nostalgia for that history...then perhaps the moviemaker should try to incorporate as much of that history as possible???

And if you aren't going to do that, why bother? Because it makes money....I know.....(rolls eyes)

"their ridiculous names, designs and incomprehensible so called disguise modes.."

The same could be said of Bay's movie.

AS for your diatribe above, if you look back at your episodes of transformers and think they're a bunch of garbage that you no longer appear to have any nostalgia for, then it's YOU I feel sorry for.

We all grow up, but I have no disdain for liking the "silly things" I enjoyed as a kid. Of course there are things like a guy named "Sparkplug" (which was obviously a nickname), but defending Bay's movie by picking apart things like Megatron transforming into "small" gun pointless and hypocritical. There were the same kind of inconsistencies in Bay's movie.

Bumblebee can scan anything with his headlights to change his shape? Why wouldn't they all be doing this shit all the time, then? One of the autobots "pees" oil?

Whatever, it's just funny to me that you complain about people in a MOVIE forum complaining about a movie, but then you go and...POST A BIG COMPLAINT on this site about complainers.

Can there be any redemption for our beloved robots in disguise movie?

Oh, and I don't think Jazz's death makes Bay a racist... but how about the hispanic guy who keeps getting yelled at for not speaking English? Or how about Bernie Mac's character telling everyone to say hello to his Mammy?

And who's idea was the damn "masturbation" conversation?? Ugh.

So, you're now saying Bay's film is okay because it was better for a general audience? Because the general movie-going public doesn't need dumbed-down, trendy shit? Making something more accessible for the general movie-going public doesn't make a film better. It is only done in hopes it will make more money.

You already agree that "more money doesn't = quality film", so explain why making a TF film "more accessible" for the general public makes it better?

You SHOULD write your own version of TINO2.

By the way, I support your "Just Don't Go" strategy. I STILL refuse to watch TINO. I saw enough shit in the trailers and clips from last summer to turn my eyeballs brown!

Besides, if all one wants to take away from a film are "action, cool visuals and effects and a bit of humour," then it says alot about how little they must settle for in life.

yea, not going to see this until at least 3 weeks after it's been out, at a matenee, and ONLY if there are nothing but total fucking glowing reviews that say many things like "Totally made up for the first one"

That said, the YouTube video posted here was far, far, FAR better than the movie.

Of course now, I go into my personal opinion of the movie and explain why my opinion is right and everyone else's is wrong. I might even provide you with a list of things that I liked/disliked about the movie. Listen, I get why people hate it. I get why people love it. I get why some people are even indifferent to this movie.

The thing is, enjoy it if you want to. If you don't, then ignore it. The fact is the franchise is officially successful whether you like it or not. So create your own Transformers movie or move on. But anytime a Transformers news story is posted, it's like the internet explodes. It just doesn't make sense.

I think what annoys me the most is the vitriol that is expressed against those who share a differing opinion. If people were actually having constructive discussions instead of attacking each other, I might be less annoyed with it. I think people who did not grow up with the cartoon underestimate the care that people who did have for the program and people who did grow up with the show overestimate the amount of "loyal" transformers fans there are out there.

To add my two cents, if the character breakdowns are to be believed, I find the continued presence of the military to be entirely useless in these movies.

Therefore, I say NO to Transformers II: The Transformening, and I encourage everyone else to do likewise. Also, listen up, Vern: You will not be changing my mind this time. I tried Transformers on DVD like you said and that is 99p I will never get back. It was not even funny in a retarded way! So, I have my resolve face on this time. Resolve face!

The second one will suck even more, because, a la Pirates, there will just be more of the same, cause it "worked" the first time. If someone is going to license source material, they should fucking understand it before they change it. Licensing means you get to use the material to make a movie, its not a CYA so he cant get sued for making transforming robots, nor should it be a marketing tool.

and the reason I, and everyone else, says TF2 will suck, is because:

1. I knew the first one would suck too, and I was right.

2.Bay is involved

3. Its a sequel to a shit movie that made a lot of money. Whats the drive to improve here for Bay?

I would not be surprised if Devastator wasn't a gestalt.

Go to hell Michael Bay. Your films suck! I have no envy of you, the guilt of unearned rewards would drive me mad.
slkboxerman, the robots were a bad update. you can admit it. Look at the new megatron. LOOK at him. Look in his eyes. He is not a lethal mastermind warrior. Hes just a dumb animal. The movie had a plot? what was it? Find the cube? why? its powerful? it brings cell phones to life?. Enjoy TF2, it'll be right up your alley. Watch it, go home, and then forget about it...cause there wont be any memorable characters or scenes, just cliches and "go-boom"

[U.S. MILITARY LEADER] Late 20s/early 30s, African American with a great sense of humor and a tough military presence.

[GALLOWAY] Early 40s-early 50s, male, National Security Advisor and presidential liaison. A curt man who is tightly wound.

[PROFESSOR COLAN] 40s, Sam's physics professor at Princeton. He's a self-satisfied intellectual who compares himself to Einstein, and is arrogant enough to wear leather pants to look cool.

[MOMMA SIMMONS] This NY Momma is in her late 60s / early 70s. She runs a deli/ butcher shop with her son in Brooklyn. Tough and sarcastic.

Actors are going to fall over themselves to try and land these rich, interesting array of characters