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J. Edgar Hoover will be a Golden God in Michael Mann's PUBLIC ENEMIES!

Crudup as Hoover? by filmcoyote	Apr 3rd, 2008 05:15:26 AM
He's hardly the build is he? Besides doesn't he look too like Johnny Depp won't the average punter get confused?
Cast "second to none"? by filmcoyote	Apr 3rd, 2008 05:19:33 AM
And the list ends up with the questionable David Wenham, Giovanni Ribisi and Stephen Dorff?! Second to none? I dispute it as second to loads (which i suppose would make it more than second to!) Few random examples off top of head - The Royal Tenenbaums, Zodiac, 12 Angry Men, Judgment At Nuremberg, Trading Places, The Women, The Philadelphia Story, The Apartment, No Country For Old Men...I could go on and on!
Filmcoyote... by bluelou_boyle	Apr 3rd, 2008 05:31:57 AM
don't be so negative. David Wenham is a great actor. Have you seen the Proposition ? He was also good in LOTR. Mann gets great performances out of his actors. End of story.
When talking Wenham, if you haven't seen The Bank by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks	Apr 3rd, 2008 05:34:17 AM
you need to shut your stupid yap. Wenham is a fantastic actor. My god The Proposition rules.
QUINT! You don't mention Stephan Graham? Respect please by messi	Apr 3rd, 2008 05:34:50 AM
The best actors in the film are Bale, Cotillard and Graham. Some respect please. The dude gave one of the best british performances of the past 20 years in This is England.
I have never wondered by Napoleon Park	Apr 3rd, 2008 05:42:46 AM
how Billy Crudup would look in high heels. it remings me of Fox's tag line for "Canterbury's Law": "House In high heels". Juliana Margulies is a very handsome woman, but the image of Hugh Laurie in fuck me pumps makes me a bit sick. Or is "intrigued" the word I'm looking for? He does have a charming smile... But Dr, Cuddy is more my type, really.
Crudup?: Wrong casting. by wowsah156	Apr 3rd, 2008 06:01:10 AM
Crudup is to movie idol for playing Hoover. You need to remember Hoover was a bit of a Gimp. He had really seedy, beady looking eyes. and he had a strong taste for the sexual deviancy (and wearing dresses) Bob Hoskins would nail the part of Hoover. Or maybe well directed Danny DeVito.
Damn you Michael Bay by MCMLXXVI	Apr 3rd, 2008 06:02:07 AM
Damn you Michael Bay
Hoskins and Wenham by filmcoyote	Apr 3rd, 2008 06:19:14 AM
Hoskins already played Hoover in Oliver Stone's Nixon. He did nail it. Messi's right about the brilliant Graham in This Is England, stunning film. Not sold on Wenham at all. I didn't like him in LotR and I honestly don't remember him in Proposition, a film i admired but didn't love. I enjoyed Ray Winstone in it but any film with Danny Huston automatically struggles to overcome his awfulness in my book. Was Wenham another brother? I have no recollection of him in that at all. Haven't seen The Bank. I love LaPaglia but that film never made it to the UK.
Billy Crudup for John Carter! by DocPazuzu	Apr 3rd, 2008 06:23:37 AM
Can't be said enough times.
Crudup as Carter by BranMakMorn	Apr 3rd, 2008 06:35:14 AM
Always agreed with you on this choice. However, the window is slowly passing by. Paramount suits REALLY dropped the ball, they would have had a John Carter film coming out about now.
I predict this film will be BADASS by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Apr 3rd, 2008 06:43:38 AM
Those who doubt me... suck cock by choice!
waiting for it by frankin	Apr 3rd, 2008 06:55:57 AM
The film may be funny as hell. I am waiting for it. Many friends I met on a millionaire dating site called meetingwealthy.com think so too. They are successful men and women. We usually talk together.
Business-wise, this is pretty smart casting by Bobo_Vision	Apr 3rd, 2008 06:56:26 AM
An early 20th century gangster film directed by Mann is a must-see for guys, but by loading it with male eye-candy, it will also become a must-see for the ladies. Smart business move, and guys can comfortably take their respective others to this movie with no complaints.
Batman Begins and Godfather had better casts than filmcoyotes by messi	Apr 3rd, 2008 06:58:30 AM
hah. mine beat yours.
Ohh Saving Private Ryan and Apocalypse Now by messi	Apr 3rd, 2008 06:58:57 AM
also had better casts. I win again.
Michael Mann = filmmaking god by kwisatzhaderach	Apr 3rd, 2008 07:15:23 AM
Now how about The Keep on DVD please?
Wenham is astonishingly bland by kwisatzhaderach	Apr 3rd, 2008 07:16:34 AM
Especially his closing speech in 300. Ouch.
OK, now this is starting to seem too "Hollywood" by Jackie Boy	Apr 3rd, 2008 07:48:53 AM
You know what I mean? Like Costner in The Untouchables. This will be voted the greatest gangster film of all time by the Teen Choice Awards. "OMG I love J. Edgar Hoover! He's so dreamy! And John Dillinger, he was a murderous gangster but he was so HOT!"
Man, That's Some Prettification by Aquatarkusman	Apr 3rd, 2008 07:53:39 AM
Depp as the tall, homely Dillinger? Crudup as the ogre-like Hoover (yes, even in the 1930s)? Next thing you know they're going to get Buscemi for Pretty Boy Floyd to complete Opposite Casting Day.
www.ain't-it-leftits-propoganda. com by Bill Brasky	Apr 3rd, 2008 07:58:52 AM
You know, I hate to rip off of USS Cygnus and Anchorite....They are way more right-wing than me (the whole I hate John McCain crowd, etc.) but....this article is a complete example of why they are dead-on when they title their posts this way. OK, J. Edgar Hoover is everything that Liberals despise. A tool for the man, the top cop, a true patriot, someone who has love for his country, the guy who 'tramples all over your human rights' just to get the job done, etc. So, I guess this justifies a blatant disregard for the Politically Correct clap-trap that you all throw at any conservative whenever someone's sexuality is questioned or insulted. "Interesting... I wonder how Crudup looks in high heels?” Yeah, I bet that you are an utter and complete homophobe, right Quint? Or a cross-dresser-phobe, or whatever. I think that you should change your self-description from Liberal to Hypocrite.
thought you were gonna say Val Kilmer by kafka07	Apr 3rd, 2008 08:02:37 AM
especially since he's gotten thick around the neck. Crudup seems like he'd be too skinny.
kwisatzhaderach by DocPazuzu	Apr 3rd, 2008 08:23:46 AM
I think there may be an "l" and an "n" too many in "bland". Wenham is fucking awful.
As a film fan by Nabster	Apr 3rd, 2008 08:23:52 AM
I do not like star driven films. We need new actors, not overpaid, baggage carrying hollywood actors. The start system was supposed to die out, and give us new and exciting actors. To hell with all those punks.
more guns in US university campuses by Ray Gamma	Apr 3rd, 2008 08:28:16 AM
THAT'S WHAT WE NEED! ARM EVERY STUDENT! THEN THERE WILL BE NO MORE SHOOTINGS!
Nabster.... by bluelou_boyle	Apr 3rd, 2008 08:51:22 AM
Depp and Bale ARE exciting actors. Just because they aren't new doesn't mean they are bad. And Bale doesn't have any baggage. Crudup and Wenham are not stars.
orginally starring Michael Mann's sister Michelle Womann by donwillymo	Apr 3rd, 2008 08:53:58 AM

oh wow, Bale finally lands a part that's a shocker by donwillymo	Apr 3rd, 2008 08:54:59 AM

speaking of when does Dark Knight come out already? by donwillymo	Apr 3rd, 2008 08:55:31 AM

Wait a minute Dorff!? by donwillymo	Apr 3rd, 2008 08:57:06 AM
wtf!?
ITS LIKE OCEANS 11 BUT WITHOUT THE FOUNTAINS by ArcadianDS	Apr 3rd, 2008 09:04:57 AM
this movie is Barney.
J. Edgar was one ugly mufa by grampageezer	Apr 3rd, 2008 09:18:07 AM
Reminds one of the pervo uncle that always showed up drunk at family get-togethers and always wanted the little nieces and nephews to sit on his lap. Billy Crudup isn't ugly enough to play J. Edgar Hoover, even as a young man. And I hope they don't have him crossdressing. Speaking of which, whats with the animation in the top left corner supposed to be? Is that Harry climbing up a wall wearing a wedding dress that's billowing in the wind? I don't get the reference gag.
Hoover was 29 years old when he became by skimn	Apr 3rd, 2008 09:19:55 AM
director of the FBI in 1924. So who's to judge Billy Crudup's physical characteristics with the man at that age. I trust Mann in casting. As far as casting, The Insider and Heat wasn't shabby.
And kwisa-whatever....Dune guy... by skimn	Apr 3rd, 2008 09:26:32 AM
PLEASE, no more requests for The Keep. I don't think thats one that has improved with age, special features or not.
Looks nothing like the man and saying that by GQtaste	Apr 3rd, 2008 09:47:19 AM
Dancer dude, Channing Tatum is good for the cast is gay! What is this a spin off of "Step Up, Electric Boogaloo?"
Pics of young and old J. Edgar by grampageezer	Apr 3rd, 2008 09:56:42 AM
www.jfkmontreal.com/john_lenno n/Chapter03.htm
Would Paul Giamatti be too old for the part? by GQtaste	Apr 3rd, 2008 09:58:55 AM
B/c my first thought was for him. And I didn't mean to imply that this will be a silly film. I happen to love Mann's films. I thought Crowe and Mann got screwed the year the Insider came out. And thought Miami Vice was better than most on here. The only film I haven't seen of his was Ali. Collateral was a bad ass little film that may be Cruise's last great proformance. Mohicans, what can you say? It's utterly romantic piece of filmmaking thats rarely accomplished. I don't even need to bring up Heat. Or when I first noticed him w/ Manhunter.
Ok, try this by grampageezer	Apr 3rd, 2008 09:59:01 AM
http://www.jfkmontreal.com/joh n_lennon/Chapter03.htm
Agreed - Hoskins was definitive in Nixon by JackRabbitSlim	Apr 3rd, 2008 10:24:12 AM
but that was old Hoover. Still, loved the way he'd lick his lips and that nasty menace he radiated. And I also pray Mr Mann doesn't go Young Buns with Guns aka that crap Christian Slater movie Mobsters on this one. Read the book this was based on - Clyde Darrow was a prison bitch - Ma Barker had nothing to do with the crimes of her sons - and most were strictly white trash. Even the Mafia wanted nothing to do with them - considering them amateurish and dangerously unstable. Glamorizing these guys is like idolizing the wife beaters on Cops.
Oh I get it. Very cute.... by Liverstealer	Apr 3rd, 2008 10:55:15 AM
Whatever we think of. If we think of J. Edgar Hoover, J.Edgar Hoover will appear and destroy us.
Folks in Wisconsin have nothing to do by Rocklover79	Apr 3rd, 2008 11:09:50 AM
except stand outside in the cold and film footage from the set and post it in Youtube. God bless 'em for it, too.
Am I the only one who... by Darth Macchio	Apr 3rd, 2008 11:28:32 AM
...remembers the '96 "Public Enemies" with Teressa Russel, an then unknown James Marsden, and (of all people), that jock asswipe from MTV Dan Cortese in the Purvis role????
The one name that scares me... by Dr.Venkman	Apr 3rd, 2008 11:42:10 AM
Ribisi. He looks like he has Syndrome of the Down.
Syndrome of the Down by Bill Brasky	Apr 3rd, 2008 12:23:44 PM
That chick that got the can last night on American Idol? Ramiele Malubay? Yeah, her brother or sister or whatever the fuck it was out in the audience was Downs. Weird seeing a Filipino with it….
Little Miss Bankrobbers! by Phillyflopper	Apr 3rd, 2008 01:27:35 PM
It had to be done. Or perhaps "It's like Die Hard in the 30's"
What part of by Series7	Apr 3rd, 2008 01:36:35 PM
Billy Crudup kind of think resume screams Interesting and part of second to none? The man is a more throw away/fergettable actor then David Strathairn. Plus no one knows if they are watching Billy, James Caviezel or that guy in Lost.
Too bad it isn't Robert Plant by psychedelic	Apr 3rd, 2008 03:04:53 PM
It'd be a hoot seeing him in drag. He could belt out The Immigrant Song in his FBI office.
Watch Stage Beauty. by Knuckleduster	Apr 3rd, 2008 03:36:09 PM
Crudup is even better than most of us already think he is. And in the company od Bale, Depp and Mann... This smells good indeed.
Those pesky commies by Ommadawn1959	Apr 3rd, 2008 05:16:54 PM
Actually, much of the seedy secret life of J Edgar Hoover was dreamed up by and disseminated by the Soviets, as a smear campaign.
Smear campaign? by grampageezer	Apr 3rd, 2008 10:25:32 PM
That's what the FBI would want you to believe after the embarassment of having their glorious leader being "outed" by members of his staff and others who knew him personally. It had nothing to do with the Communists, who would've went after Senator Joseph McCarthy if they really wanted to smear someone's credibility. After all, McCarthy was more of a threat to Communism inside the US then Hoover ever was.
speaking of robert plant (me) by robertplant	Apr 3rd, 2008 11:21:25 PM
I was trying to get a bag of weed for a friend yesterday but couldn't because my guy's place was being used for filming for this fuckin movie (chicago).
Hoover by Stalkeye	Apr 4th, 2008 06:24:01 AM
i would'nt be surprised if he wasnt behing the assassination of MLK. Cross dressing midget teabagger.

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