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Capone Runs Laps Around RUN FATBOY RUN and Bets Against 21!

first by Cpt. Arnoldo	Mar 29th, 2008 12:37:59 AM
and agreed on all counts capone
That Star Wars Ultimate Trailer was pretty cool by Orionsangels	Mar 29th, 2008 12:44:06 AM
I remember they did that with the LOTR films as well.
Click on the SW Spike ad to see it by Orionsangels	Mar 29th, 2008 12:44:58 AM
If you're not sick of SW yet and frankly who is?
It's not the London Marathon by mr blandings	Mar 29th, 2008 01:21:33 AM
It's the 'Nike River Run', a totally different event. They should have used the marathon, really, as it's famous worldwide, but I expect $$$$$$ were offered by Nike.
I've been waiting for 21 for a long time by Maniaq	Mar 29th, 2008 02:33:34 AM
Saddens me to hear Spacey is ruining it for the rest of us! His character IS supposed to be an arsehole though... This story has already been ripped off many times before - mostly by TV shows like Numbers and Las Vegas (who'dathunkit?) - but from memory I don't think the students started off pretty, they learned how to become Masters of Disguise (my god it's Adolf Hitler! sorry that line from Killer Tomatoes always comes to mind whenever I hear Master of Disguise) and that meant LEARNING how to look and ACT like... you know... beautiful people... Least that's the way I heard the story - for all I know they started off pretty and had to learn how to get ugly or just were always pretty or I dunno...??
That SW is great for showing by leobloom	Mar 29th, 2008 02:36:44 AM
how the PT has a totally inconsistent look compared to the OT. And I don't mean technologically...I mean the two sets of film looks like they're not part of the same fucking series.
bad joke by necgray	Mar 29th, 2008 03:04:47 AM
As I was watching 21, I thought of this bon mot: "Spacey's Micky Rosa is a thousand times more masturbatory than Lester Burnham."
re: run fat boy by necgray	Mar 29th, 2008 03:08:54 AM
That movie was doomed from the start, Pegg and/or Schwimmer aside. Michael Ian Black is the most obnoxious, unfunny member of the obnoxious, only occasionally funny Stella. I'll never understand his appeal.
Maniaq by Deathpool	Mar 29th, 2008 04:49:22 AM
From what I heard, there were more Asian students in the real life story, and that many passed themselves off as the typical vacationing gambler.
The Last Casino by Covenant9	Mar 29th, 2008 04:55:41 AM
There was a 2004 Canadian film called "The Last Casino" about a professor that trains three math genius students to card count and make money. Sound familiar? That and "21" may or may not be based on the same book.
I finally plucked up the nuts to... by FILMFUNK	Mar 29th, 2008 05:24:47 AM
Rent Fat Boy Run! and it was as expected - Fun but not that funny. Pegg seems to be on auto pilot in an american version of what a brit comedy would/should be. Shots of the gurkin building and tower bridge over emphasise the whole London thing and it does indeed run into Smaltz as I expected in the end although that's not the director or actors fault rather the only way the set-up could go I guess. It was fine for a nights rental but nothing to get excited about like Spaced or SHaun or Fuzz. 21 I will most definateley avoid though as it looks like your typical hollywoodised glam job on a book I read a while ago which was very good casting non Asians in favour of slick Spacey, Bosworth and Sturgess is insulting and I hear it's not even that good anyway - pass.
Bitter by Broseph	Mar 29th, 2008 05:34:06 AM
i'm going to see it monday
First Time? by Autodidact	Mar 29th, 2008 06:01:34 AM
I'm too lazy to go to IMDB so I'd rather just post my half-baked opinion here: didn't David Schwimmer write and direct a feature film way back in 1995?
Deathpool by Maniaq	Mar 29th, 2008 07:07:15 AM
yeah I hadn't heard the Asian part but I believe they went for various gambler stereotypes, different ones at different times...
woah, why pull out the racism card with nothing to by BMacSmith	Mar 29th, 2008 09:39:37 AM
back it up? explain yourself!
Comparing RFBR to Shaun and HF is unfair by biglou114	Mar 29th, 2008 10:16:06 AM
Run Fatboy Run is a different animal all together. It definately shows how important Edgar Wright is in the Pegg/Wright relationship. But in comparison to almost every rom-com out there this is really really good. Also seeing the role choices that Pegg is making lately is really making me nervous, he does know that he's aloud to not accept a role.
Capone's "Across the Universe" hatred continues. by Lenny Nero	Mar 29th, 2008 10:30:14 AM
Nono, I'm not blaming you despite our difference of opinion on that movie. (Such as why bother seeing a movie about hippies if you despise them deep within your soul.) It just seems to keep resurfacing.
people like this movie? by deadyounglings	Mar 29th, 2008 10:31:20 AM
sory to not talk about david schwimmer for a minute (it's hard, i know) but 21 sucked ass! are you kidding? this movie is for 15 year olds who have never seen a casino movie and have never heard of tarantino or john woo. 21 was fucking beat for beat predictable and if every college student turned douche bag didn't walk in slow motion every time he went anywhere, the movie may not have felt 4 hours long. oh, back to david schwimmer, finally. there was a trailer for "made of honor" which should be called "that one friends episode, the movie". will it EVER be may?
http://tinyurl.com/2exkrx by ironic_name	Mar 29th, 2008 10:34:10 AM

Lenny Nero, did you really by killamajig	Mar 29th, 2008 11:19:13 AM
admit to liking Across the Universe? what the hell?!? can i buy drugs from you?
Hank Azaria is garbage.... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Mar 29th, 2008 11:24:35 AM
...and plays the same bumbling moron in everything he has ever been in. How many times has he tried ridiculous accents?
I love Azaria ... by OBSD	Mar 29th, 2008 12:09:27 PM
Shit, HANK was the only thing worth watching about Godzilla. Also, I think Capone is wrong about how the film demonized Jack.(SPOILERS! NOT ABOUT THE END, BUT ABOUT CERTAIN SCENES IN THE FILM.) It wasn't a last minute thing, thrown together in a slipshod way in order to make Jack seem like a 'bad guy' and wrong for Libby. It starts almost from the beginning of his introduction in small, almost imperceptible ways. When Jack makes a point of not only not inviting Dennis to LOTR, but doing so and then making sure the point was driven home in front of Dennis and his son was the first sign of Jack's douchebaggery. Jack's exclusion of Jake to Libby's birthday party (even though she thought Jake was coming up until the last second) was certainly another. They were slowly building up Jack's perception that the only reason he was nice to Jake was to get to Libby, but he didn't really give a shit about the boy other than that. And how Jack proposed to Libby in a very selfish way was certainly a third. Hiding a ring in a gift of the running shoes when Libby didn't run at all was a statement that showed that Jack was a selfish prick.
21 is gonna be on TV, a lot... by SoylentMean	Mar 29th, 2008 12:11:10 PM
The audience I saw it with fuckin' loved it (not counting myself). It's a fairly safe movie that projects all its "twists" way before it needs to. It is designed to make average moviegoers feel smarter than they are. Whoever buys the television broadcast rights to this is gonna make a fortune. I bet word of mouth will actually be positive about it. The best part of the film was the new Wall-E trailer, which finally gives us a glimpse of an actual plot beyond trash pickup duties.
Hank azaria's character by spiderknight1102	Mar 29th, 2008 12:22:49 PM
Was I watching a different movie , I thought Azaria's character was named Whit?
Hulk thought this movie by welsh12uk	Mar 29th, 2008 06:49:36 PM
was about Hulk pre-weight watchers. Make Hulk mad if it was. Hulk Smash! btw Hulk hear good things about this movie. Hulk gives this 2.5 smashes.
Killamajig, yes, I liked "Across the Universe." by Lenny Nero	Mar 29th, 2008 11:45:10 PM
Loved? No. It's a little too slight at times for that, but I will never knock a movie for ambition, successful or not. Really, I think it comes down to whether or not you like musicals from the 70s.
I swear I remember by Bruce Thomas Wayne	Mar 30th, 2008 02:42:27 AM
Hank Azaria's name in Run Fatboy Run being Whit... not Jack. Liked it alot, thought Gordon was hilarious
whoah! no race card here! by Maniaq	Mar 30th, 2008 03:38:22 AM
didn't mean to imply Asian is a gambler stereotype, if that's what you got from that - we were discussing what we knew about the TRUE STORY this film (21) is based on - which admittedly seems to amount to very little... All I was saying was that I didn't think the actual MIT students that did this were necessarily pretty but they dressed up and passed themselves off as "High Rollers" - and apparently got a lot of "comp" stuff form the casinos for their efforts. And I went on to say I'm not sure they ALWAYS went for the high roller disguise - I think mixing it up is how they managed to stay ahead of the house for so long. From what I understand, until these guys all card counters worked solo, but their teacher came up with the idea of combining psychology with maths - signalling each other and thus avoiding having your betting patterns be predictable and giving yourself away - and when you know you need to bet big, you send in the High Rollers for the evening... As I said, I hadn't heard how many of these students were Asian - just that they were Incognito!
my oppinion by unter	Mar 30th, 2008 04:06:39 AM
This has said, there is pair of the scenes of the choice with Azaria, including one showing in trailer installed in male room of the locker. But by the end of film, I have felt like integer production right before feel the defect a pair and heads of the fissions first in seagoing cliche and sentimental nonsense. Even way he carries their own hair bug ya. He similar lad, which - be beaten from band, any bands. I sure of a certain point downwards road I shall see him in than-that and "get" what his appeal -, but that day - not today. ___ buy movies
interesting by unter	Mar 30th, 2008 04:09:02 AM
http://tinyurl.com/3be4vw But by the end of film, I have felt like integer production right before feel the defect a pair and heads of the fissions first in seagoing cliche and sentimental nonsense. Even way he carries their own hair bug ya. He similar lad, which - be beaten from band, any bands now too.
Yeah, but Kevin Spacey's character by James_O'Nasty	Mar 30th, 2008 08:46:37 AM
took like a 90% cut from the students... How much does that suck????
What was that, Unter? by Lenny Nero	Mar 30th, 2008 10:15:39 AM
Seagoing? Integer? Hair bug?
Just saw Fatboy by Pariah74	Mar 30th, 2008 10:20:05 AM
Seems like the review is a bit harsh. While I agree its story is fairly run of the mill romantic comedy fare...it's still pretty damned funny. You said that when Moran and Pegg are on screen "things just get funny." That sir, is a complete understatement. Dylan Moran is just funny anytime he's onscreen. His epilogue is just great...though we see his ass twice too many times for me. I'm not a fan of romantic comedy at all...at all! But I have a wife and anyone with a wife or girlfriend will tell you, sometimes you gotta watch those things. I wish they could all be this funny.
I'll probably see run Fatboy Run love Pegg. Not so by CrichtonAstronut	Mar 30th, 2008 03:03:23 PM
sure about 21. I mean if the kid's that smart at math, can't he just get a scholarship? it took me half a second after the premise was delivered in the trailer to see that hole. Doesn't bode well for the rest of the movie.
wasn't about the money... by Maniaq	Mar 30th, 2008 04:35:44 PM
this was presented to the kids as a PROBLEM to solve - any geek, no matter what kind, maths or other - will deprive himself of food, sleep, whatever, until the problem they are working on has been solved. I guess it's that ol' psychology at work again, huh? And yeah Spacey's character was a real jerk - hopefully that will come out in the movie
Crichton, he's going for a scholarship... by Lenny Nero	Mar 30th, 2008 06:39:56 PM
...but has a 1 in 75 chance.
Why are Asian characters always asexual? by Fa Fa Fooey	Mar 30th, 2008 08:32:32 PM
The Asian guy in this movie was the same one in Disturbia I believe. And all he does in both movies is wear a fucked up hairdo and smile in every frame. He also takes pictures a lot of the main character getting in on with the hot chick, but never seems to want one of his own. And he seems perfectly content with it.
Capone, it is spelt Gel not Jell... by Embiggen	Mar 30th, 2008 10:04:42 PM
not to nit pick, but it just looks so wrong I had to say something.
Embiggen, unless you're British... by Lenny Nero	Mar 31st, 2008 09:56:19 AM
...it's spelled "spelled," not "spelt."
21 is by the number by drewlicious	Mar 31st, 2008 02:20:00 PM
I liked the cast but this one was pretty predictable and is only surprising if you've never seen a movie, ever. Plus we've seen this stuff done much better. As for the whole race change, in the book almost everyone was Asia and Kevin Spacey's character was middle-eastern. And their ethnicity was part of their strategy, in fact one character had such an ambiguous ethnicity he delighted in switching from one to the other. Too bad they couldn't have put someone like that in the script because in the book that guy was a cut-up. A big plus for me in this one: Kate Bosworth looked like she started eating again. She hasn't looked that good in years and that's a sad thing to say about somoene in their 20's.
Asian and Middle Eastern in 21 by Lang The Cat	Mar 31st, 2008 04:18:16 PM
In the book, the students were chosen for two reasons: One was math ability (though the techniques for card counting don't seem that tough), and the other was to fit into a "look". Primarily, most of the students were Asian and Middle Eastern BECAUSE the pit bosses were known to be dimissive of even the possibility of non-white IBM looking card counters. The book specifically mentioned one card counter who made a point of dressing like a pimp because a black pimp could not possibility have the brains to count cards (and he worked without a team). This is one of the things I find lacking in the film. These guys did not find just a means to anticipate the cards that would be dealt, they played to the casinos blindspot, prejudice. Even the Kate Bostworth character who was white, was considered too pretty to be that smart and dressed like a high class escort just to enhance the myth.

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