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Moriarty’s One Thing I Love Today! The Black-and-White Version Of THE MIST!

First! by Zerath	Mar 24th, 2008 08:06:39 AM
Can't wait to see the black and white version.
Love the story! Love Darabont! by Nice Marmot	Mar 24th, 2008 08:08:10 AM
But the movie underwhelmed me so much. I just can't see how any fan can love this film so much.
I really wished this was being released on blu-ray by The Amazing G	Mar 24th, 2008 08:08:17 AM
:-(
*wish by The Amazing G	Mar 24th, 2008 08:08:35 AM

People won't go and see B&W films... by Boba Fat	Mar 24th, 2008 08:14:23 AM
It's a shame but, studios won't back them and distributors don't want them. Look at Control another smart film that undoubtedly suffered at the B.O for being B&W. Having said that The Mist never made it to the U.K at all.
B&W eh? I'm curious. by knowthyself	Mar 24th, 2008 08:17:33 AM
It was a great movie. I still don't get the ending. Its just fucked up lol. I mean wow..really fucked up.
A frustrating ending by harosa	Mar 24th, 2008 08:19:36 AM
Well, B&W might make it a better view but I think the frustrating ending will irritate me no matter what way it's presented. Plus, I'd rather wait on Blu ray now for all my purchases.
call me silly, Moriarty by BozeMaster69	Mar 24th, 2008 08:22:12 AM
but couldn't you just adjust the color on your television set in order to make any movie black and white? why should i shell out an extra ten bucks for a 2-disc set to watch a movie in black and white?
Save your money by BankyEdwards2309	Mar 24th, 2008 08:22:31 AM
Here's a tip..buy the Single disc version and then simply turn down the colour on your t.v :) Huh! huh! As for b/w. Sounds crap. The Thing in b/w would lose a lot of it's 'umph'
Is the B&W version exactly the same just w/o color? by AARONIUS	Mar 24th, 2008 08:24:09 AM
If so I can't understand the logic behind doing that. I mean does it make the film appear older? More realistic? To me it just seems like it would make the movie seem like it was set in the 40's and while it might change how I look at the movie I don't see how it would be more effective or scarier that way. Could anyone (Moriarty?) maybe explain the differences in the two versions?
Sorry, Mori, but in this case the people have spoken by YackBacker	Mar 24th, 2008 08:25:13 AM
This movie stunk. The acting was bad, the story was a retread of past films and the ending was maudlin. I think that if this wasn't a genre movie, you'd be able to see those failings. And as fans of genre films, we need to start rejecting this kind of half-baked effort. Otherwise, it will be more of the same in the future.
i loved me the mist by robamenta	Mar 24th, 2008 08:34:36 AM
what an awesome film that was. i was thinking about it days and weeks after i saw it..now thats the mark of a good film. completely left me spellbound and fascinated by that world. and incrediby heartbreaking ending.....it was like a great episode of the twilight zone..maybe thats why a black and white version might work. was a real shame it did not do better at the b.o....but sometimes the best films are so great, that audinces are not prepared for them till years later..look at citizen cane..2001...blade runner.. i do hope it will be considered a classic in time.
But the important thing is by Internet Thug	Mar 24th, 2008 08:34:50 AM
hoe the fuck does the black and white version look on blu ray?
The Mist by chuffsterUK	Mar 24th, 2008 08:40:10 AM
Was awful.
Frank Says... by TroutMaskReplicant	Mar 24th, 2008 08:44:52 AM
"I remember reading one knuckle-head on Aint It Cool News going, 'Well, I can just turn the color down on my TV.' Okay, Jethro, you do that." From Chud interview...
Also... by TroutMaskReplicant	Mar 24th, 2008 08:48:34 AM
Jethro?
And the date today is... by siouxfire	Mar 24th, 2008 09:04:08 AM

...a premature April Fools? by siouxfire	Mar 24th, 2008 09:04:53 AM

You've. Got. To be. Kidding me. by Nosferatu Jones	Mar 24th, 2008 09:06:02 AM
Um, ever try turning down the color of your TV??????? Save yourself 20 bucks, you monumental doofs.
I HAVEN'T SEEN THIS MOVIE YET by BringingSexyBack	Mar 24th, 2008 09:09:26 AM
Maybe I'll give the B&W version the first shot.
100% Agree by Squeak Jones	Mar 24th, 2008 09:13:33 AM
I nabbed a copy of the 2-disc edition last week (Borders made a small blunder and I glady took advantage of it)and immediately watched the B&W version. Amazing how differnt the movie plays. The effects are even more startling in B&W, and the ending is just monstrous (pun only partly intended). Darabont's gone on record and saying this is his preferred version, and I have to agree - it's mine as well now.
Nosferatu Jones... by Squeak Jones	Mar 24th, 2008 09:15:45 AM
The film was completely color corrected to work as a B&W film, in much the same manner as the Coen Brothers' THE MAN WHO WASN'T THERE (filmed in color, THEN made B&W). Turning the color off your television isn't the same at all - I checked it out.
Just adjust the color of your TV by CuervoJones	Mar 24th, 2008 09:21:13 AM
It works
Terrible Flick by Saluki	Mar 24th, 2008 09:22:15 AM
The Mist has a host of smart ideas stretched too thin to hold gravity. The acting all-around really is godawful, and the handheld delivery actually takes away from the film. This made the special effects even harder to implement, and all the creatures act like CGI creatures, jumping and screaming on cue, with no realism (yes, even for giant fucking crabs). Now it is in B&W? Make up your damn mind Frank.
vastly superior to Cloverfield by BMacSmith	Mar 24th, 2008 09:26:00 AM

Removing color. by pk68	Mar 24th, 2008 09:27:15 AM
Simply removing the color from the movie would not quite be the same. Movies intended to be black and white just don't have the color removed. Like Pleasantville, Psycho, Young Frankenstein and so on. They are shot differently cinematography wise. Some shot in b\w, some not. There is still a b\w balance to be done as well as brightness and contrast which would be a little hard to recreate on standard t.v. Try altering those b\w films to color and guess what you'll have? Shit, just like the horrible colorized films Ted Turner wanted to ruin. Like a movie that was colorized that had Sinatra in it and they got "Old Blue Eyes" eyes green!
As good as the black&black, silent version by ButtfuckZydeco	Mar 24th, 2008 09:28:02 AM
of Pro Life? Gotta be kidding comparing this to The Thing. Critics must hit some kinda wall when they've seen too many flicks. Do the movies quit affecting you? So all you can judge is it looks well done and has certain elements? The Thing sucks you in. The Mist is a nice try with its heart in the right place, but it's full of shit. One good scene--the pharmacy--mixed with a dozen ridiculous ones--the dock, intruder alert, the end.
Node32774 by YackBacker	Mar 24th, 2008 09:34:11 AM
Umm, keep reading this TB, the people are speaking quite consistently. THE MIST missed! (Sorry, I'm channeling Joel Siegel).
what a great movie by they call it the dip	Mar 24th, 2008 09:38:23 AM
i remember being home over thanksgiving and because there were so many young cousins there, our tv was monopolized by movies rated no higher than PG. so seeing the mist in the theater thanksgiving night was the perfect breath of fresh air. gloriously r-rated, fucked up, and cheesy in all the right ways - i went home feeling fat and satisfied.
What if you're color blind? by tonagan	Mar 24th, 2008 09:43:28 AM
Would it be a waste of money to shell out for the 2-disc version?
The Mist was a great flick. by Darksider	Mar 24th, 2008 09:48:57 AM
I'll have to check out the black and white version. Oh, and eat shit Cloverfield.
comparison to the THING is valid... by zom-bot.com	Mar 24th, 2008 09:59:03 AM
---because when was the last paranoia/suspense/confinement/ horror flick you saw that had the same feeling and tone? those kind of films died after carpenter in the 80's, and only had a shitty teen revival in the late 90's early 2000's (of which, the FACULTY was probably at the top of an underwhelming and small pile.) as far as the black and white, i'm sure the color contrast and other filtering processes have been added beyond 'just turning b&w). i'll be glad to add this 2 disk to my library and put beside my twilight zones, aliens, thing,NOTLD, etc dvds.
such a good movie... by Russman	Mar 24th, 2008 09:59:31 AM
Can't believe people didn't like it! Scared the shit out of me and gave me nightmares for weeks.
Why not just turn the colour settings down on your LCD? by drwilliamweir	Mar 24th, 2008 10:00:03 AM
Seems like a strange extra.
Having missed this in the theater, I have a unique opportunity. by Head In A Box	Mar 24th, 2008 10:00:35 AM
I regretted missing this one when it was in the theater as it was a film I was really looking forward to. Just couldn't make the time However, I feel sort of fortunate that the B&W version is offered on the 2-disc set because after reading about it, I may just skip the color version altogether.
Yes, NOT a holiday weekend release by skimn	Mar 24th, 2008 10:02:50 AM
against the family-friendly Enchanted. Remember Carpenter's The Thing got blasted by critics and died horribly at the box office back in '82. Its gained its reputation since. And its a good analogy. A "monster" movie that examines a microcosym of society under attack in an isolated environment. And quite a few critics ( Roeper & Co, EW, etc.) liked this. The ending will be debated forever, but I think it was better than the alternative (the military rescuing everyone).
Yeah its better in B&W because by Series7	Mar 24th, 2008 10:07:35 AM
It hid the weak ass digital monsters, that or you feel asleep like you always do during a B&W film and woke up and was like well I liked that but I don't feel like rewinding it to catch the end. There fore skipping the horrible retraded be it blissfull, ending. I mean the Things special effects still look better then the Mist.
re:Why not just turn the colour settings down? by wash	Mar 24th, 2008 10:08:05 AM
Because it's not the same thing you ignoramuses. From the CHUD interview of FD last week: CHUD: Before you actually had the chance to make the movie you had wanted to make it black and white, and now you get to have that version on the DVD. What goes into making a film black and white like this - is it a simple computer thing or is it more complicated? Frank Darabont:I always had it in mind that if this version worked, if it looked good - you can't just take the color out of every color movie - I had the hope that was going to work out. I remember that the Coen Brothers shot The Man Who Wasn't There in color. Did you know that? They decided to release it in black and white - the contract stipulated that they had to shoot the movie in color but nothing about how they had to release it. So now there is a stipulation in every studio contract that you have to release it [in color]! But I thought what they did looked so great and it gave me peace of mind about doing the movie in color knowing that nowadays with DVD if it looks right you can release a black and white version. That's a cool alternative version of the movie to do. What goes into doing that is... nowadays we're not really cutting negative anymore, we're using DI, digital intermediate, and that digital source serves as your negative and you time the movie from there. What it means is every shot in the movie is [gone over] for exposure, for contrast, etc etc. This is a process you do for color. So [the black and white version] involved going back in to the lab with my color timer and retiming the movie for the needs of a black and white image, tweaking exposure and contrast throughout. It's a technical process and not as simple as... I remember reading one knuckle-head on Aint It Cool News going, 'Well, I can just turn the color down on my TV.' Okay, Jethro, you do that. In the meantime we're going to time a new version because it's not enough to just bring the color down.
This movie was fucking excellent... by PotSmokinAlien	Mar 24th, 2008 10:15:44 AM
...and the idea of a b&w version intrigues me. And complaining about 'shelling out the extra $10' makes you sound like a moron kids, last I checked there were still a couple of video stores scattered around the country.
Best King Adaptation Since... by BoggyCreekBeast	Mar 24th, 2008 10:17:59 AM
The last time Frank made a King movie. A must-buy for me to see the B&W version.
1080P Black n White. by Diagnostic	Mar 24th, 2008 10:18:00 AM
I find this funny. I kinda hope they replace the dialog with organ music and dialog captions. Go really old school.
all jethros can just turn the color down? by alice 13	Mar 24th, 2008 10:18:35 AM
thanks a lot frank from all the alices out here.
I really hope they colorize by Internet Thug	Mar 24th, 2008 10:31:12 AM
the black and white version..that would totally be worth the $10
even if turning down the color did 'work' by zom-bot.com	Mar 24th, 2008 10:37:48 AM
i bet half of us here would rather lazily pay $10 for the ease of not having to recalibrate our screens. per Diagnotic's comment- they're not trying to simulate a turn of the century movie, but a 50's paranoia monster flick. black and white is not dead, and is a powerful medium. i'm guessing some of you have some b&w comics in your collection by companies that can afford color, but the artist wants left black & white. it's a nice option for people who like this film in the first place. for the haters, no one is taxing your Best Buy paychecks to make you buy it.
Mist vs. Cloverfield by Hawaiian Organ Donor	Mar 24th, 2008 10:50:58 AM
Is it just me or was the HUGE monster that lumbers past them at the end of the Mist a more kickass creature than the Cloverfield monster? For those who thought the monster CGI in the Mist was bad, at the very least you have to admit the big guy looked great. I think a monster off such sheer magnitude is what I was expecting heading into Cloverfield, this thing that doesn't just shave off glass and brick when it walks past a building but knocks every single one fo them down in its path.
So the color correction was pretty thorough and intensive... by Bass Ackwards	Mar 24th, 2008 10:52:38 AM
...but the film wasn't re-edited whatsoever. Pretty lame that I have to skip the article from a guy who's actually seen it and jump into the talkbalk to find any actual information.
Yackbacker by kolchak	Mar 24th, 2008 10:54:01 AM
Do you even know what the fuck you're talking about? The story was a retread? Some of you people need to do a little research before hitting submit.
Attention video & computer geeks... by Kid Z	Mar 24th, 2008 10:54:27 AM
... and Turner employees! Black and white-itization is just waiting to be invented!
i was the one who said you could just turn the colour down by ironic_name	Mar 24th, 2008 10:58:15 AM
and thats what I would have done, but the movie looks like a piece of crap, so why bother.
a black & white version in the theaters = no audience by DarthBakpao	Mar 24th, 2008 11:00:05 AM
plus the tragic ending = sound of crickets in theaters
so you are colour correcting a movie.. by ironic_name	Mar 24th, 2008 11:02:18 AM
to make it look like a faded old movie? what a dipshit.
"looks like a piece of crap, so why bother" by zom-bot.com	Mar 24th, 2008 11:04:53 AM
i hate to bring myself down to the negative, stereotypical, name-calling, fight picking geek AICN attitude... but sir, perhaps this should be your motto when looking in the mirror each morning. ("looks like a piece of crap, so why bother") seriously, this is the type of unbacked fartpinion that keeps me away from this place.
The Mist was good, but Thomas Jane's acting was subpar by DarthBakpao	Mar 24th, 2008 11:07:45 AM
... on the opposite, Lauren Holly was great. Love the creatures design.
kolchak by YackBacker	Mar 24th, 2008 11:08:37 AM
Any of the LIVING DEAD movies, THE THING, and any other movie where a bunch of people that don't ge along (social commentary!) are trapped inside a building with some terror lurking outside. THE MIST is a retread. If it was a good movie, I'd say it was an homage to the genre. But without belaboring the point any further, the writing was stale, there were scenes/characters that were pointless (the check-out girl and her whole "arc") and the ending was eye-rolling bad. There was no real connection between the end and the rest of the movie. If there was some set-up, some sort of issue raised where Tom Jane's character was portrayed in a way that would have given some weight to his final decision, then yes, I'd say that would have been an improvement. THE MIST was indulgent cinema, full of sanctimony and lots of noise.
Node32774 by YackBacker	Mar 24th, 2008 11:13:59 AM
I'm not here to get into a pissing match. You love the movie, and that's cool. I love some bad movies too, but I am at least able to admit they have their shortcomings regardless.
zom-bot.com, I love you by ironic_name	Mar 24th, 2008 11:16:38 AM
but no. this movie is a piece of pathetic pussy poo. although I will look in the mirror at dawn and think "at least I didn't think that piece of crap was any good, like zombot"
mist was flawed, definately by zom-bot.com	Mar 24th, 2008 11:18:27 AM
BUT was it a horrible, god awful movie? no. was it one of the better horror movies in a few years. probably. did i feel like crap that i wasted $8 plus popcorn to see it when i left the theater, as i felt with the last 10 movies i've seen? absolutely not. yeah, the mist has flaws, but as with these types of films when you like the concept or certain parts enough you look past them.
re: Hawaiian Organ Donor by snowpuff	Mar 24th, 2008 11:19:51 AM
Did you just give away the ending before the I saw the movie?
film was a fin watch ending was lame... by ThePilgrim	Mar 24th, 2008 11:21:15 AM
The ending was going for shock value, it felt tacked on and it was poorly done. Now you want to convince me that Black and white would have made it better. this is why I think Mori and the entire fucking clan that follows him are fucking twats. They want to be above it all and they already think that they are.
The Mist by Mr. Lahey	Mar 24th, 2008 11:23:21 AM
I think my expectations for this movie were too high. It was mostly excellent, but Marcia Gay Harden did too good of a job and the ending was like someone held me down and shit in my mouth. I haven't hated a movie so much in years.
Snowpuff by Hawaiian Organ Donor	Mar 24th, 2008 11:23:38 AM
Nope, the HUGE monster has nothing to do with the ending. It's just one of the many monsters in the film, appears near the end and looks amazing. But it has ZERO to do with the "shocking" ending you're hearing about.
Black and fuckin' White by Al Swearengen	Mar 24th, 2008 11:24:00 AM
Nothin's ever that fuckin' simple. But if you think watching this picture show in the shades of Yin and fuckin' Yang will make it all the more enjoyable, then you might be as thick headed as a fuckin' pack mule.
Verns still cool in my book!!! by ThePilgrim	Mar 24th, 2008 11:24:33 AM
and sometimes I manage to enjoy Mori's insight and pallet. Usually this occurs when he can pinch his huge asshole tight enough to contain his overblown ego. It doesn't happen often, but when it does he's actually fun to listen too..
Busted Tees by Hawaiian Organ Donor	Mar 24th, 2008 11:31:47 AM
Is it just me or are the underage girls with the big titties in the Busted Tees ads on this site a distraction?
Glad they're doing this, but... by r_number6	Mar 24th, 2008 11:33:16 AM
King said back when the story first came out that he envisioned the story in grainy black & white. I'm glad that Darabont put a lot of effort into making a proper B&W version instead of just removing the color. That being said, though, this whole "2-disc special edition" crap is starting to get pretty annoying. As I hope we all remember, almost all DVDs used to be released as 2-discs and cost $20. Now of course, the single-disc versions cost $20 and you have to pay extra if you want anything more than just the movie. Also, all the movie rental places only carry the single-disc versions, so basically you've got to pay $25-30 to see any extra features now. I'm sorry, but there are a lot of movies that I want to see but don't want to buy (like this one - I can't imagine wanting to see it more than once, mostly because of the ending which, as the father of a 10-year-old son, I'm sure I will hate), and I always especially enjoyed checking out the extra features on good sci-fi and horror movies. I remember reading a column here bemoaning this new trend when it first started. Seems we're stuck with it though.
This ain't Fellini we're talking about... by Nosferatu Jones	Mar 24th, 2008 11:38:31 AM
God, I love pretentious hipster doofi on these boards. A "director-approved" black & white image will only be marginally better/different than the B&W image you get from turning your TV color down, especially in regards to another dippy Stephen King movie. Either B&W version isn't going to make the movie THAT much better... it's still going to have the same acting, direction and writing as the color version, which may or may not be a good thing, depending on who you're talking to on these boards. One thing's for sure, making THE MIST into B&W doesn't automatically send it into the stratosphere of "art." It's still a bug movie.
any movie that causes this much split by zom-bot.com	Mar 24th, 2008 11:39:31 AM
..of love and hate is worth debating and making note of. it's not like were reviewing dungeon seige or something that we can all agree sucks hard and ate budget. i guess the funniest thing is hearing folks complain about treatments or cuts or 2 disk dvds that THEY DON'T HAVE TO BUY WHATSOEVER. so i laugh. the dvd selling points I'M SICK OF HEARING is the term 'UNRATED' tagged on like it's porn or dirty or rated RRR, when all it means is 5 cut seconds were tagged on for dvd release and not shown to the ratings board. if Shrek 3 added in some frames for dvd, would they call it SHREK: UNRATED DIRECTOR'S CUT: TOO HOT FOR SCREENS- like they do with every teen movie, thriller or horror dvd?
DVD's had one disk special features for $20- by zom-bot.com	Mar 24th, 2008 11:42:32 AM
--back when they were trying to win us over on dvd's, remember? we would think- wow! throw out the old vhs, this dvd has everything plus some on one disk! well, now they got us, so the disks no longer have freebies, you have to pay more for it. just like a drug dealer. also, any dvd that isn't widescreen but is standard and pans and scans should be thrown in a bonfire infront of walmart.
I'm All About Artistic 'Different" Endings...But..Damn by The Ender Smites Foes	Mar 24th, 2008 12:00:53 PM
I mean, come on. Damn, all three of them...wow
B & W vs color by skimn	Mar 24th, 2008 12:03:31 PM
Sometimes black and white can be more effective with stark lighting and contrast. Imagine German Impressionism in color. Would horror classics like Psycho or Night Of The Living Dead be less effective in color? I guess we'll never kn....oh, never mind. Although The Mist was pretty pedestrian in its cinematography, so I don't know how much black and white would alter its quality.
If you just set 2 TVs side by side it'll be in 3-D... by Flip63Hole	Mar 24th, 2008 12:04:17 PM
Just as easy as turning off the color for B&W...
I really liked The Mist by ATARI	Mar 24th, 2008 12:11:59 PM
And I felt the ending was powerful. Very few film (or rather filmakers) have the balls to make a 'downer' ending like that. But what would you have done if you were in his position? Makes you think. Which is another thing very few movies do nowdays. I will be buying the 2-disc set tomorrow.
zom-bot.com: by Toonol	Mar 24th, 2008 12:27:10 PM
Agree about 'unrated' dvds. Just as irritating... all the copies of 'Lust, Caution' I've found have the blurb 'Version not shown in theaters!' across the top... because they've edited out four minutes that were apparently too extreme. Stupid.
WeinerPenis by skimn	Mar 24th, 2008 12:28:38 PM
Sir, I LIKED the movie and now you've got me more than a little curious..
A good old-fashioned horror flick. by LoneGun	Mar 24th, 2008 12:29:11 PM
I enjoyed this one. I actually wish we'd get more films like THE MIST. Bet it works quite well in black-and-white.
Crickets In Theatres! by Kid Z	Mar 24th, 2008 12:36:19 PM
...now THERE'S a horror movie!
Stop the movie before the end plays. by General Crom	Mar 24th, 2008 12:39:43 PM
Then it's just like the book.Note to Darabont-he fucks the woman in the book and saves the people.What part of that did you miss.Also the book was smart enough to leave it open ended.Ya know-so you could have a continuing franchise of like the best monster vehicle since aliens.Just a fucking parralel dimension pouring out new and exciting monsters each installment.Why shut it completely down with that zone ending.I love it but I won't be watching the end again unless I feel like killing myself.
darabont by General Crom	Mar 24th, 2008 12:41:54 PM
loved you in king kong btw
Node32774 by DarthBakpao	Mar 24th, 2008 12:45:27 PM
Thanks for the correction. Which one was once married to Jim Carrey?
I just watched the Ultra Creepy Silent Version by ThePilgrim	Mar 24th, 2008 12:46:59 PM
I hit the "Mute" button. Then I turned the TV's Color down to 11..... nd Then I shut the TV off. I couldn't see or hear anything, not even in Black and White..... Best fucking Horror movie, Ever!!!!!!
Hmm...sounds interesting by keyserSOZE	Mar 24th, 2008 12:47:03 PM
of course, i don't know that i'll bother to check it out, because while i greatly enjoyed MOST of the movie, i disliked the ending. not just because it didn't happen in the book, but because it changes the whole spirit of the novella's ending. the novella ended with a sense of hope, which i greatly enjoyed. the ending of the movie just felt like the biggest "are you shitting me? are you actually serious with this?" type of endings i've ever seen. totally destroys the spirit of the book's ending. otherwise though, as i said...i liked the movie very much. it's just the changed ending that irks me.
Turn down the color? Amazed that such people can even type by Stereotypical Evil Archer	Mar 24th, 2008 12:47:22 PM
Dumb, really dumb. Any Moviephile knows better.
Can't fucking wait for B&W!!!! by NoPIX	Mar 24th, 2008 12:47:35 PM
It has to be awesome. I like Moriarty's review of the film. The Mist is really a biblical event, metaphorically or otherwise. It's a maddening ending....if they just had a little more hope. If they had actually, somehow, STAYED, instead of running. It fucks with your head.
Hawaiian Organ Donor, yes by YackBacker	Mar 24th, 2008 12:48:39 PM
Very distracting.
Stereo- My TV's got Knobs on them. by ThePilgrim	Mar 24th, 2008 12:50:43 PM
That go all the way up to 11.
Even if you Douche.... Your Still a Pussy by ThePilgrim	Mar 24th, 2008 01:00:31 PM
It goes Bang! Bang! Then he pauses for a second then it he goes Bang! Bang! once more. So like after the first Bang!!! The one intended for his Kid (comeone you know he shot his son first. Like he wanted his kid to see it coming..... He was still cool headed enough to pop one more into the bitch he should have fucked... You would think that it would be more like Bang! then a long ass pause maybe with some shouting... Then bang, bang, bang.. I love Frank don't get me wrong but he dropped the ball this time. Before this- The film was all sorts of "Nutting on the blankety soft tits of Neil Cumpston's Mother" The ending kill't it....
Node32774 It should also be Noted .... by ThePilgrim	Mar 24th, 2008 01:03:40 PM
That King hated Kubrick's The Shining the Shinning! Shows What He Knows... Meteor Shit!!!
Black and White edition by BozeMaster69	Mar 24th, 2008 01:07:03 PM
Hosted by Michael Jackson
RE:so you are colour correcting a movie.. by redhankyspanky	Mar 24th, 2008 01:09:10 PM
"to make it look like a faded old movie? what a dipshit." Really! And to think Darabont could have spent his days in his moms basement, posting bitter comments about movies he doesnt like! Whats he wasting his life making awesome films for? Fucking over-achievers!
Yackbacker by kolchak	Mar 24th, 2008 01:12:09 PM
I'd highly suggest you read the novella. NotLD was a race commentary. This is closer to "Lord of the Flies" than anything else. It's a play on human nature.
by redhankyspanky	Mar 24th, 2008 01:13:12 PM
"That King hated Kubrick's The Shining the Shinning! Shows What He Knows..." Kubricks film is a great examplke of film. But it bastardized the story. If you are going to change it that much, why even call it "the shining"? Kings original novel is far superior to Kubricks film. Jack Nicholson is clearly fucking insane, as the credits run during the trip to the hotel. Theres no transition from sanity to insanity. A fun film, but its only a pale shadow of the original story.
i don't like frank darabont by frankenfickle	Mar 24th, 2008 01:18:21 PM
because of his insistence on misperceiving the nature of blade runner.
Just checking... by rutgersjaffo	Mar 24th, 2008 01:19:17 PM
Hey Yack, are you even aware that the film is based on a Stephen King novella? Doesn't that sort of preclude the film from being a 'retread,' you smug dork?
i'd love to see a sequel by zom-bot.com	Mar 24th, 2008 01:22:23 PM
...but really what can they do but show what happened to another part of the town or surrounding towns within the same timespan. as much as i did enjoy the kick in the nuts ending, i wish the mist and/or whatever (spoiler:experiment!) spawned it was permanent, or at least harder to get rid of.
Irish I Were Drunk by Hawaiian Organ Donor	Mar 24th, 2008 01:23:48 PM
Irish you were drunk too, baby. Damn, you can see that girl coming around a corner. By the way, I just got off the phone with Frank Durabont. He says you Mist haters are making baby Jesus cry.
The novella by kolchak	Mar 24th, 2008 01:25:13 PM
was King's homage to the classic sci fi serials of the golden age. Of course it's going to "retread" in some way. In fact, you'd be hard pressed to find a recent piece of work that's not retreading something. But saying this was a retread is like saying Bram Stoker ripped off "Varney the Vampyre".
jim varney's a vampire? by zom-bot.com	Mar 24th, 2008 01:27:24 PM
that's good, then he can still voice slinky dog in toy story 3, and maybe we can get a 'Ernest goes to the grave' out yet.
Red, I live in your Head- None of this is real by ThePilgrim	Mar 24th, 2008 01:27:27 PM
it just goes to show you what your lack for an Imagination, you make up for in Wit. The Shinning The Shining! You can't read in dream. Stephen King: "I am the literary equivalent of a Big Mac and Fries." Kubric was a God, it's not a lesser mans fault if he misunderstood him... Also it doesn't always have to be about the book. Just be mindful of what detours you take, and In Closing... (Up the cum filled pussy lips of your slightly overweight Mother "God that was a good fuck!!!") I can't wait for "Frank Darabont's The Long Walk!" (Just like the sloppy, chubby, wet seconds I'm about to take from your Mother. "Your not even on the same plain of existence as me. Hey I find my humor Halfrickinglarious and thats all that matters...")
StereoEvilArcher: Here, let me pick that up for you... by Nosferatu Jones	Mar 24th, 2008 01:29:44 PM
...you dropped your pretentious beret.
kolchak by YackBacker	Mar 24th, 2008 01:33:57 PM
Racism, religious zealotry, male/female dynamics, etc. are all under the super-category dealing with human nature. But I see the validity in your comments.
The 'shock ending'... by Lemming	Mar 24th, 2008 01:39:44 PM
was lazy and retarded. Spoilt the whole movie for me, tbh.
Yackbacker by kolchak	Mar 24th, 2008 01:40:42 PM
I, too, can see where you're coming from. But one might argue that ALL stories are just takes on human nature and the ambiguous nature of life. King intended this as a tribute to those old sci fi flicks.
I heart The Mist by ur-vile	Mar 24th, 2008 01:43:14 PM
even though the ending was incredibly depressing. My only real complaint is the CGI for the tentacle creature at the beginning was weak. Excellent film imo. Though it'll never happen, I wish there was a sequel. Maybe tell the story of the soldier who runs into David. Call it The Arrowhead Project. Off topic, but speaking of The Thing... anyone play the video game, which is a sequel to the movie? I haven't gotten too far, was wondering if it was worth my time. I really enjoyed the movie.
Not having seen it... by rutgersjaffo	Mar 24th, 2008 01:44:08 PM
I am a little bummed at some of the liberties that seem to have been taken with the story. But I am still gonn arent it and watch it IN COLOR tomorrow...
I Thought The Reglious She-Bitch Followers by ThePilgrim	Mar 24th, 2008 01:44:25 PM
Joined Up Too Soon. She must of had some mighty Tasty Kool Aid. Don't call it Perfection- Unless it's true.. I will say there are all sorts of things too like in this film. I just wont jerk off to it while doing so.
Ok Jethro... by m_prevette	Mar 24th, 2008 01:44:36 PM
That cracked me up. From now on, it's the new catch phrase to deal with idiots here... "OK, Jethro..." Wow we'll be using it a LOT.
The Thing game... by rutgersjaffo	Mar 24th, 2008 01:46:35 PM
It's fun, but makes no sense in a lot of parts. You can test other characters to make sure they are ok, but they will turn on you anyway. If you have anything at all you could do instead of playing it, feel free to do so...
The ending was by ThePilgrim	Mar 24th, 2008 01:50:19 PM
The equiveillant to George Lucas's use of the Ewok's in Return of The Jedi. The She-G'Bitch conversion scene was on par with Boba Fett Sarlacc Pit accident... You Know It too Be True...
The Ending by mithrandir16	Mar 24th, 2008 01:56:47 PM
The Mist had an phenominal, shocking ending--the kind that would stay with you on the drive home. The kind of ending you think about over the course of the next week.... Then it tacked on ANOTHER ending that really took away from the power of the rest of the film. Too bad there isn't a director's cut that removes the last 3-5 mintues of the movie.
You're just getting to The Thing game now? by skimn	Mar 24th, 2008 01:57:17 PM
It was impressive 5 or 6 years ago. Now? Not so much.
Whether you liked it or not by skimn	Mar 24th, 2008 02:01:44 PM
you gotta admit The Mist is head and shoulders above the "isolated-people-in-peril" 30 Days Of Night.
And no mentions the wildly different by skimn	Mar 24th, 2008 02:05:24 PM
DVD cover art? This looks like the aftermath, not the "during".
Spi's eyes/mind are good. Let's not forget that by ThePilgrim	Mar 24th, 2008 02:05:29 PM
The Son, pretty much slept through out the whole fucking thing. Cause Frank couldn't figure out a way to give him some interesting dialog and screen time. Oh wait thats right they drugged him.... Shit you Up-Abovers almost had me... Thank god I won't be talked down too for this little ditty.. I sit here, down in my parents basement, furiously jerking off in anticipation for "Franks Darabont's The Long Walk." Gotta send the Parentals out for more Paper towels, Lotion and Redbull. I gotta a funny feeling this film isn't happening anytime soon..
storm of the century by zom-bot.com	Mar 24th, 2008 02:06:40 PM
that king tv movie was on again this weekend. you wanna talk about shit? 2 or three 2 hour movies where the devil/wizard/elemental dude toys with people for like 8 viewing hours just to prove to them that he can so that they are scared enough to give them a kid, then they do, and they fly up in the sky....whoo-peee!
lol skimn by ur-vile	Mar 24th, 2008 02:08:02 PM
found it in a bargin bin a few months ago, haven't really had a chance to play it much yet. Does look kinda dated, but I did want to play it. I'm not expecting Silent Hill 2.
Stephen King: "I am the literary equivalent" by ThePilgrim	Mar 24th, 2008 02:08:49 PM
"of a Big Mac and Fries." Everytime I read that... I'm thinking Arby's!
wowwwwww! Amazing News! by T 1000 xp professional	Mar 24th, 2008 02:14:47 PM
can't wait to see it.. One of my fav horror movies in a long time and definitely top 10 of my favorite films of the year
The Long Walk... by rutgersjaffo	Mar 24th, 2008 02:15:18 PM
I have always hoped someone would take a stab at that one...
Post-mortem on The Mist by Laszlo Vilsay	Mar 24th, 2008 02:18:12 PM
Moriarty, your judgment in movies typically ends up being in line with mine, so I'm willing to let The Mist percolate a bit over time and see if my feelings about it improve. Reaction among moviegoers seems split 50/50, with those who hate it commenting on the weak characters and awful ending, and those who love it sometimes saying that the rest of us "just don't get it," followed by a few expletives. I do agree with you that had this been released in black and white, a lot more critics would have put down their double latte and paid a bit more attention to the film. Ed Wood is still thought of as some kind of classic, merely because Tim Burton had the clout to shoot it in monochrome.
hateful and pathetic little man by ThePilgrim	Mar 24th, 2008 02:20:23 PM
Kisses Node32774 "I have a small Penis though... So small in fact- that it wouldn't make you or I the least bit remotely gay if you'd let me have anal sex with you." waits for response
I DON TKNOW by lecter1914	Mar 24th, 2008 02:21:26 PM
I think I liked the Mist. I mean, there were some cool thigns in it, and the pharmacy scene had me freaked for a couple of days. I think I was just so flabberghasted by the people in the film. As someone pointed out above, the people in the film just did things that no one in any situation would ever do. Starting with the whole everyone believing its a practical joke while the dudes in the back are screaming and covered in blood. The black people wanting to leave the store(ALL OF THE BLACK PEOPLE) because they beleived the situation to be a joke. Uhhh...I believe the exact opposite would be true. People falling into religious zealotry rather easily. And the one scene that irked me the most, when the bug things are coming through the windows and everyone is yelling to cut the lights...why does the one asshole immediately and purposely turn them all on? There were so many of those instances I cant even recall them all. Im in the minority of those who actually felt the ending made the movie better. Ony because the entire time I felt it coming and said"they wont, they wont, they won't..and then they did...and then I said wouldnt it be funny if after all that XXXXX happens...and then it happened.
The Mist sucked. by Bass Bastardson	Mar 24th, 2008 02:22:06 PM
That is all
Continued???? by ThePilgrim	Mar 24th, 2008 02:22:52 PM
Bends down and hugs Node32774 Did I also mention that I am 7 feet tall???
You know what was awful? by rutgersjaffo	Mar 24th, 2008 02:23:24 PM
No Country for Old Men. That absolutely blew ass. Nothing happens. And then nothing else happens. And then a killer uses his magic air rifle to make nothing else happen. And then in the end, nothing happens again. Wow. Truly that was brilliant cinema. Terrible. Awful. Over-rated. I would rather watch the Die Hard in New York with Samuel Jackson than have to sit through that steaming pile of crap again...
i bought no country sight unseen. by zom-bot.com	Mar 24th, 2008 02:30:07 PM
and yeah ... mist was better.. and i love me some cormack, and i love me some coen,but yeah.
I watched Die Hard in New York with by ThePilgrim	Mar 24th, 2008 02:36:06 PM
Samuel L. Jackson. He he got stuck in doors of a Metro North Train on the way back to his place. Fucked his leg up something awful.. Loud guy to watch films with. Kept screaming "You Stupid Fucking Cracker!!!" again and again. The Popcorn pissed the bag in fear. Now that I think about it... He called the Metro North Train guy a "You Stupid Fucking Cracker!!!" Fucking rats pissed the tracks man. It was a riot!
my asshole itches. by zom-bot.com	Mar 24th, 2008 02:45:57 PM
no wait, that's just AICN it's not supposed to make sense. OH MY GOD WILL SOMEONE PLEASE CHANGE THE ID4 WHITEHOUSE BLAST BACKGROUND? i'm about to have to make a spoofsite called ain't it bad webdesign.
ha freaking ha... by rutgersjaffo	Mar 24th, 2008 02:50:16 PM
Damn, that's a funny freaking post, pilgrim!
Loved The Mist by liljuniorbrown	Mar 24th, 2008 02:59:02 PM
Maybe I just have bad taste in film. So far though I totally agree with Harry about Unbreakable and now Mori with The Mist...Oh well, i'm sure someone hated I am Legend as much as I did, I can't be alone on that one.
white background by zom-bot.com	Mar 24th, 2008 03:03:45 PM
so many peoiple think it's a potted plant though, they rarely get to see the full spread of the ID4 shot. i mean, i understand that's when the site was founded or something, but at least update with a tiling white screen of your favorite geekfilm for the year, harry. please? or it it too far gone to change now?
No Country For Irish Men by Hawaiian Organ Donor	Mar 24th, 2008 03:08:12 PM
It's funny how one scene can undo an otherwise good movie. Moss sitting on the bed in the hotel room right in front of the door was absurd. A guy who did two tours in Vietnam and should understand guerilla tactics doesn't assume an ambush position elsewhere in the room? Instead he sits in the one spot sure to put him in harms way? I had trouble enjoying the movie after that.
The official reasons the ending killed this movie by Riley Martin	Mar 24th, 2008 03:21:33 PM
Ok I'm all for bleak depressing endings, but the ending to THE MIST doesn't belong in that film. One reason is that it is a genre film, and you do not mess with the formula. If you mess with it, you get THE MIST. You get bunches of kids saying to each other, "Don't go and see this movie, it's got a shitty ending". Guys wanna get laid after a movie, so they're not gonna depress the hell out of their girl. The other reason is that they established David Drayton as a strong, brave, heroic character for 95% of the movie. Then in the last 5 minutes he turns pussy and kills everyone in the car? A character like that would at least wait till the creatures would be literally pounding the car, no hope of survival, before offing everyone. But he heard a few sounds and popped everyone. Doesn't ring true to the character. They should run this movie at film school on how NOT to end a horror movie.
Jethro!!!! by Lance2769	Mar 24th, 2008 03:24:46 PM
That was funny as hell!! Seems like there's quite a bit of 'Jethros' on this website who think that turning down the color on your t.v set is the same as a color correction process. It's pretty sad if you can't throw down an extra $5.00 - 10.00 for the 2 -disc edition to support the vision or intent of the director who's movie you're already buying. Whereas 'Shawshank' and 'The Green Mile' were masterpieces, this movie was "very good" and entertaining. People just expect more from Darabont because he's raised the bar so high for himself. I can't wait for his interpretation of my favorite Stephen King novel, 'The Long Walk.' In a year when many films had unconventional endings (Atonement, No Country.., There Will Be Blood, I am Legend, etc.) this movie had the best one because it was so unexpected.
I stand by my assessment... by rutgersjaffo	Mar 24th, 2008 03:25:05 PM
Old Country sucked all the way through. The ending was the only good part in the sense that it at least went along with the rest of the film as far as nothing at all happening. What exactly is 'brilliant' about that film?! Someone please enlighten me.
Also... by rutgersjaffo	Mar 24th, 2008 03:28:58 PM
I Am Legend sucked too and the alternative ending was even worse than the one they gave you in the theaters. Stupid, stupid, stupid...
i am legend alt ending by zom-bot.com	Mar 24th, 2008 03:35:27 PM
yeah-saw that online. wtf. god i imagine it could have been a good movie if not for the slack-jawed hissing, groaning CG vamps. please go back to using people in make-up and costumes, hollywood. please? they don't even have to be name actors. plenty of talented nobodies will be angry zombies/vamps/orcs whathaveyou for peanuts, or at least what you spent on that horrendous creature animation.
Re: Riley Martin by Hawaiian Organ Donor	Mar 24th, 2008 03:36:36 PM
I actually enjoyed The Mist but I have to agree with you on that point. It would have been a much more effective ending if there had been a monster bearing down on the car before he resorted to such a drastic measure. Also, I hadn't given it thought before but I now see the silliness with regard to the people in the store not being curious about the noise from the tentacle attack out back. Still, I'll cut it some slack as it had some moments that stuck with me for days afterwards.
.........lame................ by redhankyspanky	Mar 24th, 2008 03:42:51 PM
"Stephen King: "I am the literary equivalent of a Big Mac and Fries." - yeah weve all read that quote, you boring repetitive cockmaster. Try again. "Up the cum filled pussy lips of your slightly overweight Mother" - what are you, like four? Are you new to the flaming thing! lol! rofl! Fucking net nerd.
No one's saying turning down the color... by Nosferatu Jones	Mar 24th, 2008 03:43:30 PM
...on your TV is exactly the same as a "color correction process." My own point was you could save $20 bucks buy turning down the color on the disc you may already own, rather than get hoodwinked into paying for the same movie all over again. Give me a break. Suckers.
And... by rutgersjaffo	Mar 24th, 2008 03:50:01 PM
...I should want to watch this in B&W because...? What's next, listening to it as a radio serial? How awesome would THAT be?! Yeah, not very!
Its a shame... by Tourist	Mar 24th, 2008 03:52:31 PM
...He couldn't get the money for the film and set out to shoot it from the get go with the look he wanted (I assume he wanted it to look much closer to low budget 50's horror, right?)
only about $9 by zom-bot.com	Mar 24th, 2008 03:54:00 PM
"...on your TV is exactly the same as a "color correction process." My own point was you could save $20 bucks buy turning down the color on the disc you may already own, rather than get hoodwinked into paying for the same movie all over again. Give me a break. Suckers." you're only paying about $9 for another version of the movie and other extras, assuming you already paid for the disk of a movie you are turning the color down on.
it's still funny how... by zom-bot.com	Mar 24th, 2008 03:58:56 PM
people with no interest in the movie/subject of a certain talkback will still stick thier heads in to talk shit about it rather than try to find a talkback about something they actually give a shit about. but after about a year of lurking here, i see that most folks don't enjoy anything.
Hey Red- You Know What Makes Me Laugh... by ThePilgrim	Mar 24th, 2008 04:00:37 PM
Knowing you wasted another minute of you lame ass life read this...
/\ That, And by ThePilgrim	Mar 24th, 2008 04:02:47 PM
Fucking your Mom, and wiping our stupid juice off in you clean underwear..
just fast-forwarded through The Mist yesterday by Rupee88	Mar 24th, 2008 04:09:05 PM
I couldn't get into it and didn't really see anything in there that would grab me. I probably watched about 25 min of the movie...mainly the action scenes. I just don't get it why anyone would love this film.
Uhhhhhh.... WTF?!? by Playkins	Mar 24th, 2008 04:12:36 PM
There was nothing terribly wrong with "The Mist" to begin with....(in fact I rather enjoyed it)... how does making it B&W make it any better?!? And if it is remarkably better in B&W, why didn't Darabont do it in the first place?
Nam Myoho Renge Kyo by ThePilgrim	Mar 24th, 2008 04:13:24 PM
Repeat it as many times as needed.
Isn't the lighting totally different with a B&W film??? by Rupee88	Mar 24th, 2008 04:14:00 PM
It is absurd to just desaturate the image of color and think it will work as a B&W image....it is gimmicky at best. Proper B&W cinematography would be very different from that of color all through the filmmaking process.
Too Nihilistic by The Alienist	Mar 24th, 2008 04:15:01 PM
I'm sorry, nothing in the film prepares you for that horrible, awful downer of an ending. I should be grateful a movie affected me as it did (saw a morning showing and was too upset to even go eat lunch) when so movies wash over me. But it left me hating a movie I thought was a lot of fun until the last three minutes. "There Will Be Blood"? "No Country For Old Men"? Nah, "The Mist" is the most nihilistic film of the year...and it shouldn't have been. God save us from "good" directors who think they'll be percieved as "great" if they do dark, arty endings.
Riley Martin by Rupee88	Mar 24th, 2008 04:20:03 PM
well said...it was a depressing ending for a goofy movie, which was incongruous.
if you wusses thought this was too nihlistic by zom-bot.com	Mar 24th, 2008 04:27:29 PM
..just wait until he movie of HE ROAD. i can't wait. hope they don't fuck it up. honestly don't know how they'll film some of the bleak ashy scenes.
oops by zom-bot.com	Mar 24th, 2008 04:28:34 PM
THE ROAD. 'he road' sounds like a completely gay leather daddy roadwarrior he-man' crossover.
I thought the ending was perfect by Capt. Murphy	Mar 24th, 2008 04:29:08 PM
It wasn't a happy ending, or an ending that most people could comprehend or relate to, and that's what made it so great IMO. After I saw The Mist, I laid in bed for almost an hour just thinking about the ending, how truly fucked up and gruesome it was. In the end, I thought it was perfect in the sense that it showed a side of humans that does exist that we're all completely terrified by. I'll be picking this up on DVD tomorrow. Wish it was on BD, but upscaling it will have to do I suppose.
The Mist in one word... by CeejayNightwing	Mar 24th, 2008 04:36:13 PM
BRILLIANT!
Even thinking about that ending bothers me by s0nicdeathmonkey	Mar 24th, 2008 04:37:51 PM
and I adore the film for that reason.
Skimn makes a good point by kolchak	Mar 24th, 2008 04:49:07 PM
What's with the changed cover art? It kind of pisses me off. In fact, it's almost a spoiler letting you know that humans survive. Fuck that. The original poster was much more ambiguous.
The major problem with ALL King stories... by Immortal_Fish	Mar 24th, 2008 04:58:08 PM
...the plot turns into absolute shit in the last half of the third act. At least M. Knight has a point with his stubborn twists. King finds it necessary to derail everything near the finish line just so he can say, "Bet ya didn't see THAT coming!" E.G. The Lawnmower Man -- "I know... BUMBLEBEES!" E.G. It -- "I know... A GIANT SPIDER!!" E.G. The Stand -- "I know... a giant hand of TEH GAWD!!" E.G. Langoliers -- "I know... Heavy metal PAC MEN!"
Hey AICN! Encourage others to be the best by ThePilgrim	Mar 24th, 2008 05:01:15 PM
at what they love too do, and you won't be, or make more assholes!
Cover art by r_number6	Mar 24th, 2008 05:03:02 PM
The DVD cover art really doesn't make sense. The movie is called The Mist, so they replace the mist from the original movie poster with an image that is certainly apocalyptic, but features a distinct lack of, well, mist. And to the person who mentioned The Road, after a quick bit of searching (since I hadn't heard of it), you're right, sounds like about as bleak and hopeless a story as you could imagine. Ironically though, in that story it sounds like the father is willing to do whatever it takes to protect his son, even when there seems to be no real hope of survival for either of them. This makes it sort of the flip side of the main problem so many people had with Darabont's take on The Mist.
r-number six by zom-bot.com	Mar 24th, 2008 05:06:23 PM
yeah, i had read the road before seeing the mist, and after watching the mist i went back home and read the road again- wishing it(the mist)'d been more like that book. they are kinda opposites. one guy will do anything to keep his son alive, and one would rather kill his son than let him die (ha ha wtf? when i put it that way)
cover art- explanation by zom-bot.com	Mar 24th, 2008 05:08:05 PM
i've seen the commercials, and this variant cover is the one for the 2nd bonus disk, coming only when you buy the 2 disker. the disk for the standard dvd is the standard poster. they gotta change it up so people don't grab the wrong one, yo!
We're forgetting by kolchak	Mar 24th, 2008 05:09:11 PM
that in the King Novella, the guy really WOULD do anything to protect his son. And he does. The Novella ends open ended with a message of HOPE. The whole cover art thing is just dumb because it reveals the ending.
zom-bot by kolchak	Mar 24th, 2008 05:10:14 PM
Thanks for clearing that up. Makes me feel better.
If the ending by ThePilgrim	Mar 24th, 2008 05:12:07 PM
was executed correctly I wouldn't complain. They didn't make me believe in it. I'm not upset about him shooting his son... I'm upset because they didn't sell it. It felt phoned in and thats why I hate it. Whats this sequel talk??? He's gonna eat a bullet before sundown..
zom-bot.com, "CHANGE THE ID4 WHITEHOUSE BLAST BACKGROUND" by Immortal_Fish	Mar 24th, 2008 05:13:46 PM
I'm most certain that will happen once the administration eventually changes hands to Obama. Only then will the typical white person in charge of this site change the background to something different. Personally, I really dug the original Kong background. It reflected a time when most of us huddled around movie topics, sans-agenda. But that's just my opinion.
background talk by zom-bot.com	Mar 24th, 2008 05:23:50 PM
yeah to me ID4, like it or not- was sort of the start of the overhyped, hinted at, pre-viral viral kind of big budget hollywood sci-fi action that has been beaten to death ever since, and started the 'every summer has to be bigger than last summer' hollywood attitude that brings us so much shit. i never saw the king kong background, but that does symbolize purer cinema to me than ID4
the Background used to be an Image of King Kong by ThePilgrim	Mar 24th, 2008 05:32:03 PM
Pulling on A Log. No, not that one.... Maybe they should put an tiled image of Tyler Durden's Dick Frame insert from Fight Club.
zom-bot.com, "that does symbolize purer cinema" by Immortal_Fish	Mar 24th, 2008 05:36:02 PM
I hear ya, but it's not so much a reflection of an era about cinema than it was a reflection about what this site was all about. Kong was one of the earliest dated flicks to make me stand up and take notice of the medium in a way that moved me. Then Gore invented the internets and I found this place, run by another typical white guy that simply loved the medium in all its flavors regardless of individual origin. It was catchy. And then, the site succumbed to a certain political bent. I still enjoy the site and frequent it often. Yet, from time to time, I think the original intent has been lost.
Zom-bot... by r_number6	Mar 24th, 2008 05:48:20 PM
Are they actually considering a movie of The Road? Doesn't really seem like feel-good-summer-blockbuster material. Speaking of bleak, nihilistic stories, how about A Prayer for the Dying by Stewart O'Nan. I've read some downers before, but I actually couldn't finish that one, it was so completely hopeless and depressing.
You so much Hungrier by ThePilgrim	Mar 24th, 2008 05:56:43 PM
When your on the outside looking in. Thats what made this place so awesome back in the day. Now these guys have a table with they're names on it. People bring them free food, and arrange meetings with the Cooks. They rarely sneak the sorts of stuff out to us that they used too in the past. Fearing a bad rub, or something else.. Who knows??? We hear about scripts now, but not the spoilers/entire plot outline on those screenplays. Things like this are forbidden zones now here.
He's the punisher- by General Crom	Mar 24th, 2008 05:57:09 PM
so he kills everyone- the end.The movie is trying to say that nothing is more dangerous than the punisher-not even skyscraper sized monsters.
The Road doesn't end on a bad note.. by ThePilgrim	Mar 24th, 2008 06:03:29 PM
The Dead Fathers Son tag's along with another family at the end... I wonder how they handle the ash covered atmosphere and terrain. I mean you need black ash all over the ground and in the air during wind.
Just don't try to rent it on Netflix by SoylentMean	Mar 24th, 2008 06:12:06 PM
The fuckin' site is still down. I'm waiting for the news to break that the site has been hacked and all my financial information (along with millions of others) has been stolen. Seriously odd for the site to be down this long. Sometimes they do routine maintenance, but usually during off peak hours. This even made the headline pop up thing on MSN. Anybody else maybe know what's going on with Netflix? Apparently it's been down since 7AM PST. So for all of you out there that were going to rent The Mist, well now I guess you'll have to buy it instead. Maybe Stephen King put some kinda curse on Netflix. And rabid St. Bernards are being unleashed en-masse at all of your neighborhood Blockbusters...
The Road is a depressing book by Rupee88	Mar 24th, 2008 06:15:47 PM
It ends on a hopeful note, but the whole story is a downer...it is well-written and somewhat interesting, but most of the book, the main characters are starving and looking for food and the whole planet is fucked. It's written well enough that you buy the premise and are mentally transported to that situation and it isn't fun.
Really? by Some farts really stink.	Mar 24th, 2008 06:19:26 PM
Pay extra money for a b&w version of this film? When I can just turn the color down on my TV and get the same thing? If that makes me Jethro then you mofos buying that crap must be Jethrine. Stupid AND wearing a dress.
NEEDS BLACK AND WHITE ROBOTS. by TomBodet	Mar 24th, 2008 06:30:26 PM
You know it does.
Riley Martin...I've been saying that for months! by Quake II	Mar 24th, 2008 06:32:50 PM
NO fucking way would the lead character (Jane) that the film establishes as a heroic, sane, loving father resolve a desperate situation by killing his own son. Stupid Grindhouse exploitation shock ending. Fucking ruined an otherwise decent film. He would literally wait until a monster was biting into his son before even considering committing such an obsene act of murder. And the religious chick really got on my last nerve...
For the last time..... by Wed Vid Guy	Mar 24th, 2008 06:37:30 PM
Turning down the chroma isn't the same as a retimed print made for black and white. With the first option, you get a muddy picture and with the second option you get a crisp highly contrasted picture. Big difference.
Suspension of Disbelief=Infanticide by SoylentMean	Mar 24th, 2008 06:55:50 PM
Wow. People were enjoying the movie, what with it's giganormus monstrosities and oversized mosquito type things, but throw in a non-pat, non-Hollywoodized ending, and people get upset? That's retarded. Clearly Darabont went with the more polarizing, shocking ending to, hold on, polarize and shock the audience. If you can't see how it was an act of love to spare his child and friends a demise at the claws and teeth of indescribable abominations, well then you must really have a hard time with actual tragedy. You all might want to skip Old Yeller, too. That one ends bad as well.
ThePilgrim...King's "opinion" is useless.... by Quake II	Mar 24th, 2008 06:55:52 PM
Like you said, he hated Kubrick's Shing (an absolute masterpiece) and he wrote/directed Maximum Overdrive (one of the worst films ever made).
The Mist/Netflix by mattb68	Mar 24th, 2008 06:58:53 PM
I made sure may last rentals went back in the mail on time so I would get this shipped out today to have and watch tommorrow. I can't believe it. Bummer. What's going on with Netflix today ??
SOYLENT by BringingSexyBack	Mar 24th, 2008 06:58:58 PM
I'm curious about Netflix's downtime too. I wanted to put this in my queue but no dice all day. I hope they're still shipping discs at the warehouses though. I need my DVDs.
Apparently, Netflix is down w/"technical difficulties" by SoylentMean	Mar 24th, 2008 07:14:20 PM
These "technical difficulties" have somehow wreaked havoc not only on the site but at the shipping facilities as well. It seems very suspicious (I really think it's a hack of some kind, but then I'm a conspiracy nut). I'd expect Netflix to offer something "extra" once it's back up and running, most likely an extra rental. CNN and MSN said that Netflix expected at least one day's delay in shipping discs. Which fuckin' sucks, because I was really hoping to watch Them(Ils, not giant ants) tomorrow. If it's not up again soon, something is up. At 7 PM PST the site will have been down for 12 hours! That's 10PM EST for right-coasters. If this is a breach of their security expect another class action lawsuit against Netflix. I'll fuckin' start it.
It has a Pete 'Quote Whore" Hammond review on the cover.... by Chingachgook	Mar 24th, 2008 07:19:41 PM
that means it must suck out loud. "A Masterpiece!" WTF?
Quake by kolchak	Mar 24th, 2008 07:29:41 PM
King never said he disliked Kubrick's version. He DID say that it's nothing like his story. And he's correct. After you've read that book, Kubrick's work seems like an abomination. King just takes it as it's own organism.
I HAVE SEEN THIS MOVIE by JAGUART	Mar 24th, 2008 07:40:35 PM
It was in color.
I HAVE ALSO SEEN THIS MOVIE by BrowncoatJedi	Mar 24th, 2008 07:44:48 PM
It was terrific.
I HAVE NOT SEEN THIS MOVIE by brokemart	Mar 24th, 2008 08:04:52 PM
But I know that it either sucks or it doesn't suck.
Why No UK? by FILMFUNK	Mar 24th, 2008 08:30:41 PM
Maybee it slipped by already but yeah like someone else said is it really worth having another disk? Just Desaturate yo TV!
I Loved this Film! by topaz4206	Mar 24th, 2008 08:42:45 PM
I loved the Andre Braugher red herring character, the creepy display of cult mentality (and even creepier when the preaching almost starting making sense!), and the absolutely balls-out "fuck the test audiences"-ending. Darabont would only be allowed to make a movie like this AFTER making one of the best films of all time. I was skeptical about the B&W business, but I "rolled my own" (by removing all color in my media player) and b'gosh, it worked. And it made the Razzy-worthy CG work better too!
Frank Darabont is an egomaniac who makes dull somewhat treacly f by darthvedder81	Mar 24th, 2008 09:06:51 PM
I might be the only person on the planet who didn't like "Shawshank."
Netflix back up by mattb68	Mar 24th, 2008 09:07:44 PM
it's back up. seems to be working.
I've seen this film by moondoggy2u	Mar 24th, 2008 09:11:25 PM
Its pretty average, really. Acting is spotty sometimes and the characters are all cookie-cutter, of course, but its not too bad, overall. Deffinitely not one of your more original films, but from the very first scene of Jane's paintings, its obvious that this film isnt really trying to be. That ending, however, is something of a problem, in my opinion. While ballsy, to be sure, its very, very forced and runs contrary to what little characterization we have available to Jane's character. Why, just a few minutes earlier, the man finds out about his wife's death and mostly takes it in stride, choosing to continue fighting/trying rather than despair, but in just two to three minutes time, he and the rest of the posse throw in the towell within moments of his car running on empty. No time passes for us to see them crack. No vain attempts at chancing it are taken. The way the ending is filmed, its as though they all see the gas meter, and then say, "fuck it." This is why, even though I may be a fan of the Darabont's Chutzpah, I can't help but feel the ending is tacked on, particularly when it runs counter to the character and the film's internal logic. To me, it just seemed as though Frank thought one day, "wouldn't it be cool if..."
Oh, and whoever thought Turkey Day killed this film.. by moondoggy2u	Mar 24th, 2008 09:20:38 PM
I Am Legend did gangbusters during Christmas season, which disproves that notion. The fact is most audiences and critics walked away with mixed reactions, and that is the fault of the movie, really. As for being the next thing...dunno. The reason The Thing did poorly, though, wasn't the fact that audiences and critics didn't like it. It was just that they liked ET, which, if I remember, was released at the same time, a hell of a lot more.
DIAGNOSTIC--! by thegreatwhatzit	Mar 24th, 2008 09:32:32 PM
Thanks for (arguably) the funniest message on the subject. I'd love to see the film in b&w but I doubt this option will sell many units. The regional under-30 idiots AVOID b&w like the plague (they have NEVER seen Laurel and Hardy, CITIZEN KANE, WHITE HEAT, et al--and it's likely they NEVER will).
Well, Schindler's List, but more recently by moondoggy2u	Mar 24th, 2008 09:56:36 PM
there is Sin City. To say that no one under thirty would see a black-and-white film is yet another example of geek snobbishness.
Mediocre film, cheap gimmick. by Lost_Horizon	Mar 24th, 2008 10:27:11 PM
Sorry, Frank, but shooting in color and running the footage through Final Cut Pro's desaturation filter doesn't make you Gregg Toland. (Good) black and white photography is a highly technical art form. It isn't a button you press to make crap movies suddenly cool. I love old B&W films, but they look better because they were composed and shot that way out of necessity by cinematographers who knew every trick in the book to maximize the distinctions in subtle grey tones. They had no other choice BUT to know every little trick. Today, it's a copout to gain some sort of artistic "credibility", or, in this case, an easy way to disguise the shortcomings of a disappointing product.
I have to agree, Lost_Horizon by moondoggy2u	Mar 24th, 2008 10:42:58 PM
Somehow, I can't picture Frank telling his staff of CGI flunkies to make the effects in black and white.
Best use of black and white ever by Jay Mammoth	Mar 24th, 2008 11:22:48 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Cep pHXJA9iE
SIN CITY by thegreatwhatzit	Mar 24th, 2008 11:58:17 PM
was a boxoffice disappointment (it didn't tank a la GRINDHOUSE but it still performed "way under par"). SCHINDLER'S LIST, sans Spielberg, would have been an art house movie. And a polled survey, circulated among students at UMBC and Towson College, indicates that students declined to watch b&w movies. When addressed with questions about THE HAUNTING ('63), students deferred to the color remake. This isn't snobbery--it's fact.
In regard to THE THING by thegreatwhatzit	Mar 25th, 2008 12:05:02 AM
John Carpenter recalled that Universal actually described the film as "porn"! And, yes, audiences preferred the same year's E.T., which launched a post-JAWS Spielberg. Meanwhile, same season, Universal flunkies were scratching Carpenter's name off the parking lot. THE THING is still impacting--AMC actually trimmed some footage from the film for a recent broadcast.
Most American audiences can't handle good movies like this.. by spectrebeeyatch	Mar 25th, 2008 02:15:14 AM
I was in Ohio at the time when I saw this in theaters at the end these middle aged couples started walking out. I actually laughed at them because I was just so amazed how stupid people are, it's a movie chill out and sit back and take it in. Not all movies have happy bull shit ending all the time.
A lot of people looked pissed on the way out by caruso_stalker217	Mar 25th, 2008 02:29:54 AM
And I was laughing my ass off. Best theatergoing experience of my life.
BATMAN FOREVER? by caruso_stalker217	Mar 25th, 2008 02:40:50 AM
Why would you do that to yourself? At least it wasn't BATMAN AND ROBIN. BATMAN FOREVER may have been shit, but at least there was an actual movie buried under there.
Kilmer is pretty badass by caruso_stalker217	Mar 25th, 2008 02:46:21 AM
And I thought he was a decent Batman.
There's a lot of good stuff in there by caruso_stalker217	Mar 25th, 2008 02:51:49 AM
Schumacher just covered it up with a lot of shit.
The Mist redux (2008) by logocult	Mar 25th, 2008 02:59:52 AM
B/W is quite pretentious considering color film has been around since the 20's. There is a difference when a filmmaker has no choice to use b/w out of necessity. Alfred Hitchcock used b/w for "Pyscho" (1960) because it would have been too violent in color. Billy Wilder for "Some Like it Hot" (1959) used b/w 'cause the make-up on actors Curtis and Lemmon looked too garish in color. Because of the budget, Fred Astaire said he wished all his early pictures had been filmed in color instead of b/w. The film "Sin City" (2005) is a adaptation of a graphic novel, the color (or lack thereof) been dictated by it's source material. "John Carpenter's The Thing" (1982) has a wonderful color palette that ranges from the sublime to the visceral. When Steven Spielberg used b/w for "Schindler's List" (1993) it was used to accentuate an emotional moment (color red for the little girl during the massacre). It seems suspect for Frank Darabont to charge extra for a b/w version of a color film, considering none of his earlier films have needed this accommodation.
Node32774 by Boba Fat	Mar 25th, 2008 03:32:26 AM
That is a list of filmakers who have earned the right to do what they like and as a result they're good films. But generally a B&W film is going to be a hard sell to a mainstream audience. I haven't seen the Mist yet but will watch the B&W version first if that was what Darabont intended and the colour version after. But I bet if Frank had argued that B&W was the only way the film could be realised it would never have been made. I think we're in agreement that it's a shame but that's the way it is. My point was to challenge Moriarty's view that a B&W release would have made more money. I can't see it.
Worst Ending Ever.... by Sleeperkid	Mar 25th, 2008 04:11:40 AM
It's like Frank Darabont took some nice chick out for a lobster dinner/movie combo and because didn't even get a decent handjob or hummer afterwards he figures NO ONE attending his latest film would. I mean, Jesus Christ... How the heck do you expertly follow your source material to the letter for the first 110 minutes and then suddenly deviate into what may be the worst (and logic-defying) ending in the history of screen adaptations? Makes me want to entirely disavow The Shawshank Redemption, though I'm convinced Frank Darabont has an alternate ending stored somewhere that features a White Shark devouring Morgan Freeman and Tim Robbins right before they embrace on the beach. For the record, spoiler alert spoiler alert spoiler alert In the novella, David Drayton officially ends his tale right after witnessing a creature of unspeakable size stomp by his escape vehicle, leaving the reader to make up his/her own mind as to his treck's final outcome. In the film version, he not only finds his wife dead in a spider-web, he also drives till he runs out of gas and proceeds to assist his passengers (his own child included) in a suicide that gets decided in, oh, 2 minutes or so...only to suddenly step out a few seconds later and run into over 50 tanks, choppers, and transport vehicles traveling through a suddenly dissipating mist (???). Not only was this massive cavalry right on his tail moments before he offed everyone, it was apparently so quiet he only heard it when it got within 12 inches or so of his blood-soaked SUV. Any other dad would have walked it out until they found shelter or until it was absolutely necessary to off his entourage (i.e. giant spiders are meters away). If you're gonna use the "well he heard something coming so he killed everyone before they could get attacked" argument, keep in mind that they watched a 500 foot tall assbeast walk by their headlights without saying "well fuck that" and performing ritual suicide.... spoiler end So yeah, thanks Frank. You balding caca-head. Go eat a dick.
Really? Really? by Some farts really stink.	Mar 25th, 2008 04:24:55 AM
No color makes this movie sooooo much better? Suckers. They could release it in 3-D with a virtual Angelina giving you a nice greasy handjob and it wouldn't be any better.
500 lb assbeast?? Hmmmmm. by TomBodet	Mar 25th, 2008 04:49:55 AM
I don't think I mist anything here then.
In theory, B&W should double the apparent resolution, no? by SK229	Mar 25th, 2008 09:31:41 AM
I believe DVD's sample ratio is 4:2:0. So by removing the color from the equation, you're effectively getting 4:4:4 in B&W?
"nice greasy handjob" by caruso_stalker217	Mar 25th, 2008 10:33:18 AM
That's the name of my band.
Cannot wait to pick this up. by gdeo	Mar 25th, 2008 11:14:33 AM
I saw at the theatre,and thought it was good.cannot wait to watch it again,but this time in B&W
Sleeperkid...You nailed it. by Quake II	Mar 25th, 2008 12:23:51 PM
People are saying "Oh, you can't handle a hardcore non-Hollywood ending"...I can handle any ending as long as it makes sense. The Mist ending was absurd and seems like it came from an entirely different film! What happened to the characters I've been watching for 90 minutes? Who the fuck is this guy with the pistol killing his son and passengers in the car?
Which disc should I rent by carbunkel	Mar 25th, 2008 12:48:42 PM
from Netflix if I want to see the Black and White version? #1 or #2?
Great film by ballyhoo	Mar 25th, 2008 12:59:40 PM
People that don't get it can have fun complaining.
Cheap gimmick? Not sure I agree, Lost Horizon by seagrass	Mar 25th, 2008 04:19:21 PM
Remember, the Coen brothers shot The Man Who Wasn't There in color, then processed and released the film in b&w...and the results were quite convincing. I don't even want to see that film in color, even if I could. Give the b&w Mist a chance...seriously, it's damn good and even flat-out surreal. Love your user name, BTW. Capra forever! I dread the day they remake Lost Horizon...again.
The Mist fucking rocked but... by Motoko Kusanagi	Mar 25th, 2008 04:33:57 PM
...that religious bitch fucking sucked. She had much too much screen time.
The ending (SPOILERS, obviously) by seagrass	Mar 25th, 2008 04:39:30 PM
The only problem I had with the film's ending had nothing to do with the mercy killings; what I really didn't like was the fact that the military was able to "clean up" their mess, which in essence was a happy ending (just not for Drayton. Basically, the mist could be stopped. I wanted a truly apocalyptic ending. Keep the mercy killings, and then have a completely hopeless and helpless Drayton stagger off and vanish into the mist, then cut to black.
Oh, and if you don't like the ending by seagrass	Mar 25th, 2008 04:41:55 PM
just stop the DVD when they run out of gas. Easy-peasy.
Actually, I only paid $6 more by seagrass	Mar 25th, 2008 04:49:05 PM
at BB to get the 2-disc version ($22.99), and it also came with a crisp new Mist paperback. That's a pretty sweet deal by anyone's standards.
The Long Walk Better Be In Color!!!! by ThePilgrim	Mar 25th, 2008 09:11:04 PM
I keep thinking too myself anyone could make that movie... You have tons of people walking. 530 something extra in the very beginning. The rules are simple.... Don't walk under 4 miles per hour. Don't get warned. Get Warned More than 3 times and you are Ticketed... Eliminate warnings by walking for an hour without being warned again. Don't interfere with the other walkers. Don't Assault the other walkers Don't Deviate from the course Last one left walking- Wins. Frank should make the long walk without a script. Shoot it shot for shot on the scenes in the book and do some improvisional stuff throughout. He should make the actors walk for long periods of time, before filming some of the scenes, so the exhaustion is real.. Hire 80 or so extras to portray the other "Walkers" Film it entirely on a Zipline Rigged Steadycam. Just like the ones used in the football stadiums. I think the Zipline cam would be cool because it would give the film it's own look. the trend for horror films right now is handheld steady cam. Zipline suits the story. The camera can flow smoothly with the walkers and rise and fall very smoothly. Verses using a Steadycam on a car or dolly track.
I Meant 80 extras not 530... by ThePilgrim	Mar 25th, 2008 09:16:55 PM
and the camera would need a motor to guide it on the line and the poles holding the line would need motors as well to raise and lower themselves in exacting motions in relation to one another to raise and lower the camera.
The Long Walk.... by Wed Vid Guy	Mar 26th, 2008 12:08:43 AM
Should be filmed on video and presented like a reality show. Why not?
the "thing" game by El Borak	Mar 26th, 2008 03:19:56 PM
i thought was pretty awesome. it scared me as well. the way you're not sure which one of you co-players is infected. you play with them for hours and one time both guys started freaking out/ turning alien and i just about shit.

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