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Quint and director Robert Luketic chat about 21, Vegas and more!!!

1st!!! by Crawing	Mar 21st, 2008 06:17:47 PM

Looking forward to this one. by A.M.M.O	Mar 21st, 2008 06:17:48 PM
Loved the book.
...by one second, no less... by Crawing	Mar 21st, 2008 06:20:04 PM
...man, I hate those assholes who squeal 1st...
Hot chicks who attend MIT? by SkinJob69	Mar 21st, 2008 06:24:56 PM
Yeah. They should intro this with "Very loosely based on reality".
What happened to Ratners 'Bringing Down the House' by Crawing	Mar 21st, 2008 06:25:38 PM
..heard he was attached/rumoured to have purchased the novel and was shipping it around...good book about a young card counter cheating at blackjack...easily make a decent card flick if given the Ocean's Eleven polish (and obviously if Ratner is not 'directing')
But I can overlook that bit of 'artistic license'. by SkinJob69	Mar 21st, 2008 06:26:13 PM
I'm good like that.
Crawing by Bruce Thomas Wayne	Mar 21st, 2008 06:50:05 PM
That what 21 is based ff of....the book Bringing down the house
Damn having No Edit button!!! by Bruce Thomas Wayne	Mar 21st, 2008 06:51:05 PM
Thats* off*
Rounders was cool. by skywalkerfamily	Mar 21st, 2008 06:58:32 PM
This looks like some Real World episode.
advance screening by necgray	Mar 21st, 2008 07:14:23 PM
I saw 21 at an advance screening for Boston University students (they filmed a lot of scenes here, so they gave us a screening). And cool director or not, it was pretty awful. I can see where the dude was trying to make Blackjack more "visually interesting", but he did it WAY too much. I felt like the movie was a short film with styrofoam peanuts of card montages and slow-motion character walking. Pretty ridiculous. And you want to talk about cliches? Holy crap... I could go on, but there's no point. It was an agreeable way to spend two hours, but I would never pay to watch this. And for future reference, Hollywood: attractive leading men are NEVER believable as the nerd who doesn't get laid, and sexual tension relies on the belief that the characters may not eventually have sex. From the moment Bosworth shows up on screen, I was silently screaming, "All right, fuck him and get it over with. Come on. You want to fuck him, fuck him. Quit wasting my time."
Bruce Thomas Wayne...I thank you... by Crawing	Mar 21st, 2008 07:30:37 PM
...thought I smelt a court case there - this all sounded way too familiar. Is 'The Rat' still involved as a producer?
Just checked imdb and B.Ratner is exec prod... by Crawing	Mar 21st, 2008 07:34:06 PM
...so this film is doomed. Ah well, at least the book was good.
Two main characters in 'BTH' were Asian... by Bong	Mar 21st, 2008 07:51:53 PM
But of course we got your typical BS Hollywood casting with Jim Sturgess and Kate Boswoth as the leads...
Sorry...BDTH (Bring Down the House) by Bong	Mar 21st, 2008 07:53:25 PM
Great book
crawing re: Danny Ocean by necgray	Mar 21st, 2008 08:50:14 PM
That's exactly what I kept thinking when I was watching the movie. I kept thinking, "Why couldn't they play this like an Ocean movie?" But no. Instead of interesting characters, we get cliches. And dozens of montages of cards slapping tables while chip piles are shifted. There WERE two Asian characters, as well, but they obviously weren't the focus. The Asian guy was a silly smirking clepto and the girl was a shallow fashionista. Pretty dull. And Spacey? His shower scene as Lester Burnham was less masturbatory... Sturgess was dull as dishwater and Bosworth fared no better. BRIAN Bosworth would've made a more interesting female lead.
I like Vegas in Diamonds Are Forever. by skywalkerfamily	Mar 21st, 2008 09:27:23 PM
Otherwise known as the Shitty Vegas.
did he LOSE a BET? by chromedome	Mar 21st, 2008 09:29:13 PM
and was forced to wear that shirt? Jeez, the puffy pirate shirt on Seinfeld was less hideous. I don't even normally notice crap like this, but man, the ugliness of that shirt dominates all....
I bet his mom made that shirt. by skywalkerfamily	Mar 21st, 2008 09:48:51 PM

Hope this is good by Rocklover79	Mar 21st, 2008 10:26:05 PM
My college has a screening on Wednesday, and I have pretty much no expectations for this. Maybe it'll surprise me.
Post-1999 Kevin Spacey alert! by Osmosis Jones	Mar 21st, 2008 10:42:20 PM
Skip it...
It's not that hard to count cards by Ye Not Guilty	Mar 21st, 2008 11:11:55 PM
You don't need to be a genius or anything to count cards. You can pretty much pick it up over a few hours of practice. I learned how using a blackjack program I downloaded for free. What's hard is maintaining both your card counting strategy (which is a betting strategy, i.e. when to increase your bet) with your playing strategy (which is a playing strategy - i.e., when to take a card).
Yet another Aussie Director by fisheater	Mar 22nd, 2008 01:19:49 AM
The talent from down under is so damn good. Just wish we could afford to keep them here. Alex Proyas, Noyce, Mclean, if only we had the stones to make genre films here.
I want MAN-BEAR-PIG: THE MOVIE by random dude	Mar 22nd, 2008 05:37:51 AM

Bringing Down the House... by JohnnyRicoHatesBugs	Mar 22nd, 2008 08:38:06 AM
Was great. There was no reason to change it. Oh wait, most the characters that were actually on the MIT card counting team were Asian. Can't have Asians in a movie. Let's get a couple of white kids. Even though Vegas would be instantly suspicious of two 21 year old white college kids with a $100k bankroll, but which would not be nearly as unusual for a couple of Asian kids. Per the book (a true story) this is one of the big reasons most the team members were not white. Fuck this movie. Looks terrible.
Um, did they even mention the movie once in that whole interview by JacksParasites	Mar 22nd, 2008 11:59:37 AM
I'm glad you had such a friendly conversation but weren't you supposed to talk about the movie? Wasn't that the whole freakin' point? You couldn't think of any questions about the movie, like I don't know, what his thoughts are on the pressure in Hollywood to cast white actors in roles that were supposed to Asian, what he liked and didn't like in the book, etc? Was that really hard?
All I want for Easter is a shout out from Quint!! by thebearovingian	Mar 22nd, 2008 12:04:53 PM
No Easter eggs, no chocolate bunnies, no marshmallow chicks, no fake grass, no baskets!

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