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CBS Cancels
JERICHO!! Again!!

First by skywalkerfamily	Mar 21st, 2008 02:37:44 PM
Lol.
FUCK!!!!!!!! by the sauce	Mar 21st, 2008 02:38:17 PM
nuff said
I'd say the timeslot was partially to blame... by tonagan	Mar 21st, 2008 02:38:58 PM
But maybe I'm wrong.
Oh no! by Geekgasm	Mar 21st, 2008 02:40:50 PM
Seriously, though, who cares? Nobody was watching this show except my boss and Skeet Ulrich's mother.
Yawn. by fiester	Mar 21st, 2008 02:42:11 PM
Bad show, let it go.
Typical by gthmbt	Mar 21st, 2008 02:44:23 PM
CBS did what they wanted. They killed a good show.
Somewhere in a cave in Pakistan... by gridbug	Mar 21st, 2008 02:45:00 PM
Bin Laden is laff-laff-laffin' his ass off. With the aid of his dialysis machine. While sipping an espresso. And browsing this website.
I agreee on the timeslot... by Darth_Nader	Mar 21st, 2008 02:45:37 PM
but I think the abbreviated season did it too. What stuns me is how Numb3rs must do better that Jericho did, and it's timeslot is worse. What will happen to Lost when it moves to 10pm?
excellent by Demmer Knob	Mar 21st, 2008 02:47:16 PM
now if only they'll bring back journeyman and cancel it again.
2 people watched this show by skywalkerfamily	Mar 21st, 2008 02:48:05 PM
It was all over the network.
"Ratings for season two are even lower" by newc0253	Mar 21st, 2008 02:50:03 PM
So much for saving the show, huh? Jericho was okay but I kinda wish everyone hadn't gone to the wall for such a so-so show. In a year when they cancelled Veronica Mars, there was at least one far superior show that was worth saving ahead of Jericho. What's worse is that this probably will put the boot into any revival efforts for other shows. Networks will ask themselves, what's the point of bringing a show back if folk don't watch? So well done, Jericho fans. Kudos.
Robert Hawkins bomb... by Wungolioth	Mar 21st, 2008 02:50:26 PM
...was last seen entering Cheyenne, Wyoming, so I'd say no, it's not gonna wipe any part of Kansas off the map. I've been watching it, but I really don't care one way or the other. I guess we have to wait to see what the last line is in the last episode to see what the Jerico fans send to CBS. If the producers had some brains, they might work something into the script that they really want, like a wide screen plasma TV.
Turn it into a CSI by skywalkerfamily	Mar 21st, 2008 02:51:26 PM
CSI JERICHO!!!
Screw CBS by DirkAngerReloaded23	Mar 21st, 2008 02:55:31 PM
Yet again, CBS gives me a reason to stop watching their network. Jericho was the only show on the network that I even remotely gave 2 shits about so now that it's gone I can finally say bye-bye to the channel. If Sci-fi channel had any sense whatsoever they would pick up this show, but with critical gems like Flash Gordon and Who Wants To Be A Superhero why bother right?
Bugger by photoboy	Mar 21st, 2008 02:57:30 PM
Oh well, at least they had the chance to film an ending that apparently gives some closure. Still, I'd have liked to have seen more...
The Universal HD station shows Jericho by skywalkerfamily	Mar 21st, 2008 02:58:07 PM
like 24 hours a day. They show it more than BSG.
that's pretty funny. by frankenfickle	Mar 21st, 2008 02:58:28 PM

I like Jericho... by badboymason	Mar 21st, 2008 03:00:51 PM
its a fun little show but im not going to cry at it's cancellation - it never really found it's feet in terms of a style or consistent feel, it's wildly veered from small-town drama to action show and back without ever being great at either and this season has definitely dropped the heart of the earlier episodes in favor of action. It hasnt worked and as long as we wrap up the next episode with at last a half-finished story I will be happy... I imagine we will get some sort widespread rebellion of the new Cheyenne government and we leave the characters as they witness the start of the next Civil War.
WTF by Ashok0	Mar 21st, 2008 03:04:22 PM
This was the only remotely non-crappy show on CBS. Well, unless you count Dexter.
I'm pretty sure they aren't taking ALL ratings into account. by Squashua	Mar 21st, 2008 03:04:42 PM
DVR. TIVO. INTERNET VIEWS. DOWNLOADS. This is one of the better shows on television.
That's funny by Rat Fink	Mar 21st, 2008 03:05:40 PM
after all that bullshit about, "bring Jericho back" no one even watched it. What a lame show.
Timeslot > CBS Wanted It Dead > Herc Wouldnt Cover it.. by the kosh	Mar 21st, 2008 03:05:59 PM
CBS has wanted this show gone since they did the midseason hiatus that pitted it against American Idol, then moving to the 9/10:00 hour made it difficult for the FAMILIES who got together to watch the show at such a late hour. Then sites like AICN wouldn't even cover the show in the 2nd season which at only 7 episodes packed a helluva emotional wallop. Like the passing of Arthur C. Clarke the age of superior drama on Television is over. Bring on the "I'd Buy That For A Dollar" guy cause that's going to be all that Network TV will be soon enough. May the evil Eye of CBS soon fall like the Eye of Mordor.
CBS execs by geodesigns	Mar 21st, 2008 03:07:39 PM
I really liked Jericho- so I'm sorry to see it cancelled, but one day A "Nielsen" ratings to measure the way Jericho was most viewed-- through website viewing or iPod downloads. That needs to be established. The times are changing; to measure a show on Nielsen ratings alone is not reflective of modern viewing habits of any given TV show. Wake up CBS!! You idiots!!!
Good riddance by Paragon Complex	Mar 21st, 2008 03:09:15 PM
Let this piece of garbage show die once and for all. It never was any good and the ratings reflected that. You can bitch and moan, cry and complain about the timeslot, but honest with yourself, if people liked the show they would've followed it to the new timeslot regardless. Let this stupid show die in peace. It's like Terry Schiavo.
CBS... by Z0D	Mar 21st, 2008 03:11:15 PM
stands for Craptacular Broadcast Shit-Station. /sigh/ Jericho was a breath of fresh air that made me think about how, we as a country, can go from normal to FUBAR just because some politicians and corporations want it all for themselves. CBS: what did you expect from Jericho when you put it in a shitty time slot with no marketing what-so-ever?!? And Hollywood wonders why movies and tv shows are being downloaded on torrents...because viewers don't want to pay for watching your shitty networks and studios at your price! ___KNEEL___
Terry Schiavo? by Rat Fink	Mar 21st, 2008 03:11:27 PM
Who the fuck talks about Terry Schiavo anymore?
Jericho was a depressing show by skywalkerfamily	Mar 21st, 2008 03:12:53 PM
Every week it was an exercise in depression, and ripping off other series like Lost.
kosh by The Funketeer	Mar 21st, 2008 03:15:46 PM
If CBS really wanted it to be gone, they wouldn't have renewed it. No one made them put it back on the air. They're under no obligation to you clowns to keep producing a low rated snoozefest. You should be grateful you got a second season at all.
Gee, Herc by snowpuff	Mar 21st, 2008 03:16:48 PM
Gee, Herc, why not sound a little more gleeful about the show's cancellation? Funny you claimed last week that you haven't watched it for awhile but you seem to know what's happening with Hawkin's bomb? What's a matter, Herc, did they not send you a Jericho hat and t-shirt? Is that why you don't like the show? They didn't pay you enough attention, little Hercey Werkey?
Herc's used to cancelled shows. by skywalkerfamily	Mar 21st, 2008 03:19:04 PM
Buffy, Angel, Firefly, Farscape.
Guess I can go back to ignoring CBS by waggy	Mar 21st, 2008 03:25:06 PM
It's tough to criticize when they win the ratings race so consistently, but it's hard to imagine a more boring prime time line up. Jericho (though not perfect) was the one bright spot on that network. Chances are we'll see it replaced with another procedural or a pair of 3 camera sitcoms.
Can't blame them... by aversiontherapy2	Mar 21st, 2008 03:26:08 PM
You can't say the show hasn't been given a chance. It's a shame though, I enjoyed the b-movie style production and soap opera dialog.
I liked this show by Mezzanine	Mar 21st, 2008 03:30:39 PM
But I hope it stays dead this time.
Don't blame the timeslot. by fiester	Mar 21st, 2008 03:34:05 PM
No one watched it. If people cared and liked this show half as much as some folks would have us believe rating would surely have increased, not completely bottomed out. But a larger issue is this: Network television is not longer a place to look for quality of unique programming. I'm not suggesting Jericho was either of those two things, but it aspired to be--all these three factors combined to make it a DOA for a Network show.
Ok by NudeandAroused	Mar 21st, 2008 03:37:42 PM
I basically caught up with the first season and have watched all of this one. The problem with the first season is that I don't think it knew where it was going. It was either a conspiracy show like 24. Or it became a soap opera about a town dealing with a nuclear attack. If it had been a one track show, perhaps dealing with the town, it might have been better.
CBS by optimus122	Mar 21st, 2008 03:40:53 PM
I will still watch Survivor and Criminal Minds and Numbers..I will miss Jericho but when you get a 6 rating even at 10pm your not going to last long. Numbers gets a 10 or 11 every time out and thats on a Friday night.
Numbers by optimus122	Mar 21st, 2008 03:41:51 PM
I should add that show is also on at 10pm just on a worse night , Friday.
Las Vegas had better ratings on a Friday by skywalkerfamily	Mar 21st, 2008 03:43:25 PM
and that was cancelled.
Curious....how are the ratings/what will CBS do with by skimn	Mar 21st, 2008 03:44:05 PM
Dexter? Can't cost them much to fill a timeslot with existing material.
Haha. by Pops Freshemeyer	Mar 21st, 2008 03:46:44 PM
Maybe now everybody should send jars of peanut butter or something?
Started of Right, now is Left by Spastic Jedi	Mar 21st, 2008 03:48:49 PM
I liked this show during Season 1. They did a lot of cool stuff that showed you want to do and what not to do if that particular situation ever really happened. It also was the only show besides 24 to have a slant in the Right direction opposed to the Left. As a fan, I was glad it came back, but it has just been one big political statement against Bush and America. J&R = Haliburton Cheyenne Government, in Wyoming, Dick Cheney's home state. The Abu Ghraib refernces. Skeet and the Rangers as insurgents. On and on. Did anyone think when it came back it would go sooooo far Left from where it was?
Making room for CSI: Des Moines by Mr Spork	Mar 21st, 2008 03:54:38 PM
or if it were NBC, Law & Order: Meter Maids.
The first half of season one was pretty great by skywalkerfamily	Mar 21st, 2008 03:55:07 PM
It had a lot of cool mysteries. But, the writing just got worse and worse as the show went on.
If only Journeyman was given this chance by NBC! by captboulder	Mar 21st, 2008 03:55:18 PM
fucking bastards!
Journeyman & Carpoolers by Spastic Jedi	Mar 21st, 2008 03:57:41 PM
Were the best shows of 2007.
But How I met Your Mother lives on by liljuniorbrown	Mar 21st, 2008 04:00:45 PM
How is this possible? There are soooooo many shows out there that need to die already (One Tree Hill anyone?) and shows like this can't catch a break. Jericho really only needed one more full season to finish telling it's story but noooo.... we need more CSI and Law and Orders. Damn
So what happened to all those protestors? by Rocklover79	Mar 21st, 2008 04:01:54 PM
You know, the "legions" of fans who sent in all the nuts to the studios in order to get the show back on air? Guess those folks didn't follow through and actually, you know, WATCH THE SHOW.
pwned! by ironic_name	Mar 21st, 2008 04:02:24 PM
i tolerated the show, and gave my time, but its still kind of funny they killed it again
and yet, shit like ________ stays on the air! by fanboy71	Mar 21st, 2008 04:27:37 PM
Fill in the blank.
hawkins = kiss of death by necgray	Mar 21st, 2008 04:28:31 PM
Word of advice for future sf/fantasy shows: don't name your protagonist Hawkins. Between Jericho and Carnivale...
Its cancellation is funny? by slone13	Mar 21st, 2008 04:28:57 PM
Appropriate, perhaps. Deserved, arguably. Unfortunate, maybe. But funny?? Hardly.
Well at leat it got 3 seasons by DarkhawkPrime	Mar 21st, 2008 04:48:24 PM
Some will say "You screwed up, it was only on for 2 seasons!". I feel the first half of season one is season one. Then CBS fucked the show by taking it off air for 3 months, the same as some shows take off between seasons during the summer. Then season two(for me) came back against Idol. The story got better, but it like the tree falling the empty forest. The show gets shit canned. The Nuts rise up and we get season three. So if you think of Jericho as getting 3 seasons it's a little easier to swallow.
Okay, face it. Jericho sucked and only got renewed... by DerLanghaarige	Mar 21st, 2008 04:51:28 PM
...because of the media attention that the fan campaign got. And it got it only because it started (as far as I know) here on AICN. It didn't have many fans, they were just talking about it in the right places.
P.S. by DerLanghaarige	Mar 21st, 2008 04:51:47 PM
SAVE KP!
Snowpuff... by Wungolioth	Mar 21st, 2008 04:56:12 PM
As I pointed out, Herc doesn't know what's going on in the show, if he did he would have realized the bomb isn't even in Kansas anymore.
Original fans of the show were red-staters... by Prof. Pop-Cult	Mar 21st, 2008 05:00:34 PM
But the seeds of the left-wing plot reveals were planted all throughout Season 1. I had no insider info on the series in its first season, but even I guessed early on that the nuclear attacks were most likely an inside job.
No More Protests, I'm Done by Supershadow	Mar 21st, 2008 05:02:34 PM
I was really pulling for Jericho. I enjoyed the first season for its characters, and home town/family feel, community bonding, and heart. During the first boycott, people were expressing how patriotic the show was, or how it depicted the Christian faith with respect. It also had a strong appeal to families. I was drawn to the Green family of the show. I liked the rebellious son reconciling with his family, the father and mother relationship, the high school sweetheart. It had a good formula, and it was a decent and entertaining show. The conspiracies were okay, but I think that main point of the show was how the town/community came together to survive. Immediately after watching the first episode of the new season, I knew it lost all the appeal of the first season. The focus was no longer on the Green family, even the mom was nowhere to be found. The town was overrun by the military, and we were introduced to a new government, and the conspiracy story took center stage. It didn’t make sense to me how they would totally abandon the first season’s formula. The low budget production didn’t help much either. The show de-evolved to focus on Jake Green and Robert Hawkins and the head of the military dude (I forget his name). What a waste. I think it was over before the second season even started. No more Jericho, good riddance.
I dont see how Jericho could be offensive to Red or Blue staters by Ashok0	Mar 21st, 2008 05:09:29 PM
I'm a McCain fan and I don't see anything "offensive" about Jericho. So an American company is feeding off a nuclear attack on US soil. Its a story. Any liberal or conservative who gets bet out of shape over a scripted story on CBS should be punched in the face.
Jericho can be offensive... by RetroActive	Mar 21st, 2008 05:23:05 PM
to people who like good television. This show Buh-Lows!
McCain Fans by dumbpeoplesuck	Mar 21st, 2008 05:38:04 PM
Heh, heh... "We will have peace - even if it means WAR"! Personally, I think we're long overdue for a nice plague.
CSI DesMoines? How about Crime Scene: Scene of the Crime? by Pennsy	Mar 21st, 2008 05:42:45 PM
Exclusive clip of this new NBC show: http://tinyurl.com/32qgez ;)
Fred Freiberger will run season 3 by Anakin Whoopass	Mar 21st, 2008 05:42:46 PM
But you have to go where he is to see it.
Jericho was like 24 without Jack or CTU by skywalkerfamily	Mar 21st, 2008 06:03:38 PM
Kinda lame.
That's just nuts... by Dick Jones	Mar 21st, 2008 06:25:34 PM
...that show should have been canceled the first time around.
About offending the red/blue staters (SPOILER) by MrD	Mar 21st, 2008 06:32:20 PM
Yeah, it turns out that a right wing extremist and his pet corporation are profiting the most from the disaster, so that could potentially offend conservatives like me, but then don't we learn that the one who CAUSED the tragedy was a rich nutjob who wanted to rid the gov't of corporate influence? Sounds to me like a Gates/Buffet type liberal, so it's all good.
"Jericho was like 24 without Jack or CTU" by Ashok0	Mar 21st, 2008 06:48:11 PM
Well, not even Jack could save that mess of 24 Season 6.
CBS: Please join the 21st century by Forget_Byron	Mar 21st, 2008 06:48:45 PM
Nielsen means dick and everyone with an ounce of intelligence knows it. The modern viewer doesn't watch television live; they download off the internet or record it for later. What strikes me funniest is that networks did this to themselves but don't want to acknowledge the impact. Here, we put this episode on our website so you can watch it, but why aren't you watching it on television live?? Derrrr!!! I recently realized how stupid the network execs are about this sort of thing while watching the Stargate Atlantis panel from ComicCon in CA where an executive actually told the audience NOT to Tivo the show if they want to keep it on the air. ROFLMFAO. So in other words the viewer is expected to keep doing things in the traditional way and pretend like new technology doesn't exist rather than the networks WAKE UP and join the rest of us in the new world. Bitches!
dumbpeoplesuck by Ashok0	Mar 21st, 2008 06:49:49 PM
So is this plague genetically engineered to only wipe of people who are not Obamamaniac sheeple?
Btw CBS I never watch Jericho live by Ashok0	Mar 21st, 2008 06:50:55 PM
Its on at 10PM so I just watch it on your website the next day.
At least the show will have an ending... by Pizza The Hut	Mar 21st, 2008 06:54:21 PM
...which is more than I can say for a slew of other CBS shows ("The Incredible Hulk" for instance).
I loved Jerhico by mayorofsimpleton	Mar 21st, 2008 07:06:57 PM
But it was literally the ONLY THING on CBS that I watched, and I didn't even watch it on CBS. The networks need to wake up. Our money is out there if they get with the reality of how we now view shows.
How dare you compare Carpoolers to Journeyman?! by br1947	Mar 21st, 2008 07:13:34 PM
Carpoolers was a fucking abortion of a show, Dear God! It made According to Jim seem like... like... something good! Journeyman however was awesome!
Anakin Whoopass by Geekgasm	Mar 21st, 2008 07:16:16 PM
Your Fred Freiberger reference was delicious. Kudos.
Pizza The Hut by Geekgasm	Mar 21st, 2008 07:18:13 PM
Oh "The Incredible Hulk" hand an ending - don't you remember? He fell out of a plane and onto another network and died. "I'm free" on NBC!
it was doomed from the getgo by bacci40	Mar 21st, 2008 07:40:54 PM
viewership has experienced a sig decline since the strike, and the retooling of the show didnt fix it, it just made it more unbelievable
by johnnyjlawless	Mar 21st, 2008 07:48:32 PM
the writing was pretty bad a lot of the time, but Jericho has grown on me. the new camera set-up took me for six, but I think that this was a grower. Well, in a world where 'Arrested' can be endangered from the first series, I guess it is no surprise.
Producers Courting Sci-Fi and USA Networks by fedrich519	Mar 21st, 2008 07:54:02 PM
So, you know, at least there's that. Season Three is a long shot, but it might still happen
Jericho sucks by dtpena	Mar 21st, 2008 07:59:48 PM
The acting was terrible The premise had no ground There was no action at all The characters were written as morons There's not a single hot girl (except the little teen girl, but she's too young to get naked) It had no mystery (not an interesting one at least) You couldn't relate to any character (unless you think you're that stupid) And did I mention the acting sucking?
the fans should send in apologies by ArcadianDS	Mar 21st, 2008 07:59:54 PM
for convincing the network that they would support the show, and then walking away from it. Yes the ratings went down - that means fans walked away from it AFTER sending in their stupid peanuts.
Where's the big campaigns now? by skywalkerfamily	Mar 21st, 2008 08:01:52 PM
Guess no one cares.
in all honesty by Mr_X	Mar 21st, 2008 08:11:00 PM
it kinda lost its feet in the second season. they should have realised they were on a lifeline and they shoudl have pulled out all the stops. i argee with the other posters the green family were the focus of season one and then in season 2 the "family" parts of the show semed to dispair. lately it seems like its shot on a handycam. a really good premise, pity they didnt pack a better punch. you know what fucks me off is journeyman started pulling out all the stops. got better and better and then those motehr fuckers cancelled it. seriously i dont give a shit anymore, less tv watching means i actually have a life now. nuts indeed
Wungolioth by snowpuff	Mar 21st, 2008 08:12:43 PM
Fair enough, he hasn't been watching.
And a 1-ah, 2-ah, a-three-ah...ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ by TomBodet	Mar 21st, 2008 08:27:54 PM
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Where is Box now? by shoe1985	Mar 21st, 2008 08:43:11 PM
This shows why you need to spend time watching the shows you like during the time they air. The networks don't look at anything, but the ratings of when it aired. CBS even said they looked at the amount of downloads on ITunes and the usage of DVRs, but at the end of the day, people just didn't watch it during the timeslot. Lets see what game or reality show replaces Jericho. The sad thing is it will do a better rating.
Jericho shot on HD video... by Prof. Pop-Cult	Mar 21st, 2008 08:48:03 PM
I think it was always shot on HD video, except for its pilot. Don't quote me on that, but I think the information is out there on the Web in an article about its production process.
No, it doesn't mean fans walked away... by Sledge Hammer	Mar 21st, 2008 08:54:09 PM
...it just means Nielsen Families walked away, even more so than before. But then Nielsen ratings are down on most shows since the end of the strike... It never ceases to amaze me that the archaic Nielsen ratings are still used to judge what gets cancelled and what doesn't, especially when it's a system that's never been exactly known for it's viewer diversity, despite all the hype to the contrary. All that said, Jericho being cancelled again is hardly a surprise, despite being better than most anything else of CBS these days. Hope it finds a hope elsewhere, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
Del Toro as Wolfman FIRST LOOK by slayers bitch	Mar 21st, 2008 09:04:53 PM
Pics of Benicio in Rick Baker's makeup http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0 ,,20185191,00.html
Inconsistent tone by GrammatonCleric	Mar 21st, 2008 09:06:42 PM
I agree with most of the posters on the talkback. It wasn't a great show by any means, but I did watch it from the beginning based on one of Herc's "best of" lists at the beginning of the season. It seemed like a cool premise, with weighty themes, and I am a sucker for postapocalyptic stories. But the style and tone were all over the map. For every action scene and military stand-off, there was like a Hallmark movie of the week moment. The Grandpa "flashback" in last week's episode was painful in that respect, and it was during that sequence that I knew it was the beginning of the end. Plus the continuing escalating conspiracy grew wearisome. I hope to see another post-nuclear show again, but hopefully the tone will play more stark and grim and feature less community barbecues.
And HERC you didnt help the situation any man.. by nrn	Mar 21st, 2008 09:08:08 PM
When save Jericho was going on you were RALLYING behind Jericho. It comes back on the air and hardly a single frickin peep from you. This was planned all along with the 3 leaked first episodes etc. Jericho was doomed. And herc, you didn't help at all by just forgetting about the show.
newc0253, Fuck Veronica Mars by TheLastCleric	Mar 21st, 2008 09:17:18 PM
I get that some of you will watch anything with a pussy attatched to it but since you want to compare the two, Jericho was the better show by far. I've never understood the boner people got over VM and I never will, nor do I get the mentality of people who talk shit on Jericho, which was actually improving with every episode, while singing the virtues of shows like LOST and Heroes. And your logic that Jericho fans ruined any future attempts to bring other shows back is fucking retarded.
Btw, I started watching Veronica Mars and it sucked by Ashok0	Mar 21st, 2008 09:30:45 PM
I dunno what is up with fanboys raving about Veronica Mars. Is Jericho phenomenal? No. But it was fun and entertaining, which is more than I can say about Veronica Mars. Plus, Jericho didn't have that annoying Kristen Bell in it.
And to the rest of you shit-talking twats by TheLastCleric	Mar 21st, 2008 09:32:28 PM
It's cool if you don't like Jericho but please don't come into this talkback and act like your taste is superior while watching a cryptic shitfest like LOST or a bloated, tedious and meandering mess like Heroes or BSG. Perhaps if you were coming in here and comparing Jericho to something like Dexter or The Shield I could at least understand your position in regards to quality, even if I disagreed. However, most of you shit talkers seem to think shows like Veronica Mars and Supernatural represent the apex of the medium so excuse the fuck out of me while I point and laugh. Jericho was a pretty damn solid show and it certainly had more going for it than Gilligan's Island meets the X-Files or Unbreakable: The Inferior TV Version. a.k.a Heroes. Even assuming you hate the show, many of us liked it quite a bit and it sucks that's it's being cancelled...again. Seriously, what kind of asshole comes into this thread and celebrates the end of a show he never cared about to begin with? Go finger-fuck a first cousin and leave the fans to mourn, dickwads.
TheLastCleric by Ashok0	Mar 21st, 2008 09:32:41 PM
Well... uh, Jericho doesn't even touch LOST. And Heroes was better than Jericho if you are discussing Season 1 only. Altho I agree with you, it's better than any teenybopper CW series.
"a cryptic sh*tfest like LOST " by Ashok0	Mar 21st, 2008 09:36:39 PM
Wow, TheLastCleric. Do you even watch LOST? Seriously, keep a straight face and tell me that Jericho has done a single episode fractionally as good as "The Constant" or "Meet Kevin Johnson". Because it hasn't.
"something like Dexter" by Ashok0	Mar 21st, 2008 09:39:26 PM
Yeah because Dexter is SOOOO superior to LOST (carcasm). Like the Deb/Lundy romance arc was so brilliantly plotted. And the whole Dexter/Lila romance angle is so much better executed than than Desmond/Penny. Seriously, I love Dexter too, but don't be a tool.
I couldn't get through the first season. by TheLastCleric	Mar 21st, 2008 09:44:55 PM
I sensed what the show was from the beginning but I tried to watch regardless. Most people I know who started off loving the show seem to have reached the same conclusion as I, just much further down the road. I generally stay off the topic because I know people really love the show and I don't begrudge anybody their passion but if people want to start taking swipes at other shows I really don't feel the need to pull my punches. I'm really not trying to be a dick here because I can understand why people like it but in my opinion, based on what I've seen, it's leagues behind the quality of something like The Shield, The wire, or even the Tudors. Perhaps one day I'll give it another try but honestly, the first season annoyed the shit out of me. Sorry to offend you personally, because it's not like this show is an idiot magnet like American Idol. I just think it's overrated.
'Annoying Kristen Bell'? by Pennsy	Mar 21st, 2008 09:48:40 PM
Contradiction in terms, this.
Dexter by TheLastCleric	Mar 21st, 2008 09:51:47 PM
At least Dexter manages to convey a coherent story. You probably thought Cloverfield was innovative and profound, didn't you? And my "tool" in in your mommy's pussy.
The Second season was better. by dpc01	Mar 21st, 2008 10:00:47 PM
I had watched the show during it's first season, but primarily because I found the general situation interesting. The soap opera romantic entanglements were very dull filler that I started to scan over, and that's pretty rare for me. But the short second season was much better paced, and the death of a character I had previously thought of as uninteresting was rather affecting, even Whedon-like in it's unexpectedness. So I'm disappointed - the show was getting somewhere.
Too Bad... by Drknight09	Mar 21st, 2008 10:36:28 PM
I really love the show...
best news i have heard all day by Jett	Mar 21st, 2008 10:48:15 PM
this show sucks so much, i'm glad its gone, keeping it around only gave pretentious assholes something to talk about
Surprise, surprise by Xaximus	Mar 21st, 2008 10:51:15 PM
I'm amazed anyone cared enough to bring this piece of shit show back the previous time, let alone that it worked. With ratings lower than they were before the resurrection, this time it'll be permanent.
TheLastCleric by Ashok0	Mar 21st, 2008 10:56:14 PM
No offense --- for starters I love Dexter, but LOST is a vastly different beast. In "Dexter", stories always tend to end nice and clean with each season finale (i.e. Lila just happens to VERY conveniently [SPOILER] at the end, and Dexter conveniently [SPOILER] in France). The finale of Dexter S2 works as a season finale, but it also could have easily been tooled to serve as a series finale. Unlike Dexter, LOST is written as one story which will be told across 6 seasons. The show is not being created "on the fly" with no end in sight. The LOST team has mapped out and planned LOST through to the very end. As of this day, there are exactly 40 episodes remaining. After 40 episodes, LOST is done. The writers have also placed a clause in the LOST contract which states that the franchise cannot be continued after 40 more episodes, because the 40th episode from today will have the definitive ending that they have envisioned. And if you watch LOST, you will find that the writers have really given the audience a framework for Seasons 4 through 6. Seasons 1 through 3 laid down the foundation and gave us the chess pieces. Season 4 has just started, the game is in play, and we're quickly moving towards the checkmate. In my opinion Episode 4.05 ("The Constant") has significantly raised the bar of television. IGN scored the episode a 10.0, and Mania (formerly Cinescape) rated it a perfect A+. Say what you want about LOST, but the amount of planning done by Executive Producers Damon Lindelof and Carleton Cuse is nothing short of ground breaking. I can't tell you how many seasons of Dexter will be made. I don't know how many episodes are left until the Dexter series finale. I have no idea what Dexter S3-S6 will be about, if the show lives that long. And I honestly have no idea if the writers have planned Dexter that far in advance. Maybe they have --- maybe they haven't. But I can tell you one person who has meticulously crafted a series several years in advance. LOST Executive Producer Damon Lindelof.
Goodbye Jericho... by wackybantha	Mar 21st, 2008 10:57:11 PM
....I will miss thee... :(
Geekgasm - re: Incredible Hulk by Pizza The Hut	Mar 21st, 2008 11:16:30 PM
Yeah, but that was 6 years after CBS canned it. CBS would not allow a proper ending at all, and left everyone hanging, after spending 5 years building up to a Banner - McGee series finale which never happened. The original plan was to have the Banner - McGee conflit resolved at the end of the 5th season. TPTB and NBC completely ruined the reunion movies that aired 6 years later. Kenneth Johnson was no longer involved. Because Bill Bixby took over as exec producer of the movies, it was never resolved, angering many die-hard fans to this day.
Dexter and Jericho by Mezzanine	Mar 21st, 2008 11:19:22 PM
Better than Lost? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. HAHAHAHAHA. ok. no. HAHAHAHAHA.
Jericho Season 2 was Badass TV, Crammed Full by Stereotypical Evil Archer	Mar 21st, 2008 11:22:04 PM

HAHAHA by antoniojvr	Mar 21st, 2008 11:24:12 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA
Hehe. by Ashok0	Mar 21st, 2008 11:30:33 PM
LOST and DEXTER are both A quality shows. Jericho deserves at least a B- thought. It was a fun show, much better than all that CSI rubbish and I'm sad to see it go. Oh, and BSG will be back in 2 weeks (frakkin' A!)
Crappy Show by jimbo6666	Mar 22nd, 2008 12:03:34 AM
Jericho deserved cancellation. Five minutes of plot development per hour- long episode. Mostly uninteresting characters and dreadful, unending speechifying by Gerald McRaney. I couldn't even force my way through the first season.
Ashok0 by RenoNevada2000	Mar 22nd, 2008 12:04:30 AM
I can tell you another tv producer who planned out his entire series in advance- BABYLON 5's J. Michael Strzynski. Of course, he did it first fifteen years ago. Just saying. (And I am a big LOST fan, so I'm not trying to diss Lindelof.)
Ashok0 McCain set a new deadline for Iraq yet? by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Mar 22nd, 2008 12:16:14 AM
For about 5 fucking years the old bastard was saying it's going to be over in the next 5-6 months, now he's talking in terms of 100 and 1000 years, wonder if he's moved up lately to the next fucking life cycle of the universe or what? I'm actually curious as to what'll happen if McCain, a warmongerer whose admitted to knowing jackshit about economics and wanting to bomb Iran for no fucking reason, becomes president. I was always a big fan of those Fallout games I think if he won I could finally live out my post nuclear fantasies. I mean, he got tortured in vietnam, so he's a no nonsense John Wayne tough guy type, hell if that makes him a good president but it makes my balls feel good having a "badass" as our leader, amirite?
Ashok0-2 by dumbpeoplesuck	Mar 22nd, 2008 12:18:54 AM
Actually I was thinking of more of a 'The Stand' scenario, only with a better ending. I'm not entirely sold on any of the candidates, but McCain scares me. One thing I will agree with you on, though - APRIL 4th! Just so long as the politicians wait until after the final BSG episode to pull a Jericho and nuke us...
Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World by Ashok0	Mar 22nd, 2008 12:25:25 AM
Well, I think if we were going to leave Iraq, we would have to have left back in 2003/4. At this stage, an immediate withdraw would be a disservice to the Iraqi people and would only get them killed. And I don't think McCain will really bomb Iran. If he does, you can personally come to my house and slap me.
dumbpeoplesuck by Ashok0	Mar 22nd, 2008 12:28:23 AM
So... is "The Stand" worth reading? I've heard mixed things on the ending. And please, no spoilers. :P
Ashok0 by dumbpeoplesuck	Mar 22nd, 2008 12:54:50 AM
Yes, read it if you get the chance. Whatever you feel about the ending, it is definitely worth the experience. The movie is good too, but it clocks in at 6 hours. The book is vastly more detailed, if you can imagine that. As for the ending, it is pretty much a typical King ending. Worth the ride, though, IMHO. Probably my favorite of all of King's work, next to The Talisman.
Ashok0 by Mezzanine	Mar 22nd, 2008 01:30:37 AM
Yes, you should read the stand. And by saying that, I mean that you should go out any buy a copy as soon as you wake up tomorrow. As far as the ending goes, it's rather open ended. But its full of enough imagery and symbolism that you should be able to imagine what happens next.
Nah, no nuts this time... by Bill Clay	Mar 22nd, 2008 01:59:48 AM
Most Jericho fan sites I've visited have thrown in the towel. We already got our second chance. Of course, CBS bears a good share of blame for scheduling Jericho in a terrible time slot. Oh well, it'll make a nice DVD set.
Sometimes you feel like a nut by The Selecter	Mar 22nd, 2008 03:17:25 AM
...sometimes you don't
Great first Season.. by CeejayNightwing	Mar 22nd, 2008 03:24:31 AM
But the second season production values sunk well below the quality it had set before. Blame the initial canceling of the show for certain characters not being able to return in time to shoot scenes originally intended. Blame the initial canceling of the show and the writers strike for rushed and desperate to please scripts this seasons that delivered too much incident and not enough breathing room for the characters. Blame the Internet leak of the first three episodes before they had a chance to air, this meant the first three weeks of this show didn't register a blip on the airwaves. And finally blame CBS for initially promising this show two seasons, going back on that promise and canceling the show forcing them to play to the fans by killing of an important main character at the end of Season One. This character was missed sorely in the second season and CBS with all their money put very little into production of this second season as well as giving it a timeslot to sink into rating hells. Basically everyone who wanted to see Jehrico, downloaded the show at their conveinience rather than be asked to deal with the crazy timeslot and Downloads don't equate to viewing figures in the slow-on-the-uptake world of film and TV ratings who literally are still using stone-age methods to decide what we like to watch. In the foreseeable future every prime-time reality TV show will dominate over every drama becasue all the housewives and teens want to watch this crap live and deal with their backlog of downloaded TV later. I think the studio heads at CBS,ABC, NBC, FOX and CW need to get computers, Utorrent and step into the A.M! Goodbye Jehrico, hope the ending is as satisfying as Journeyman.
Herc WHERE WERE YOU?? by Maniaq	Mar 22nd, 2008 03:57:11 AM
Just when I was getting ready to ask you WTF happened it turns out you haven't even been WATCHING?? Jericho has been consistently good throughout the entire second season and while you made a half-assed effort when the season first AIRED we've heard dick from you since - until THIS...?? So who is this Nielsen guy and why do the networks care so much what he rates? Nobody's ever asked me a goddamm thing about what I'm watching in my entire life - including this Nielsen dude - and like other people have already pointed out - a lot of us are watching our TV when it's convenient for US and not some dickhead network programmer making his best guess about when's a good time to air something... Anyhow, BSG taught the networks a lesson - listen to your fans when they have something to tell you - and hopefully this show will teach them something too - look at a BIGGER fucking picture than some silly antiquated ratings system with it's ridiculous "sweeps" seasons and other eccentricities!
Ashok0...if you are gonna read the stand by bacci40	Mar 22nd, 2008 05:53:46 AM
try and find a copy of the original...not the redone version, where king makes like lucas and "fixes" what he felt was missing with the first version...lots of the redux is clunky
Now bring back Miracles... by DanielKurland	Mar 22nd, 2008 08:10:26 AM
Ulrich's better effort that had tremendous potential, but was fucked over by the War on Iraq. With ABC "bringing back" Cupid, you never know...
Damn, hope this will not jeapeardise Journeyman's... by theycallmemrglass	Mar 22nd, 2008 08:18:36 AM
chances of revival. Lost patience with Jericho half way through the season.
by theycallmemrglass	Mar 22nd, 2008 08:19:23 AM
Halfway through 1st season that is
Every single year by SUPERJIM	Mar 22nd, 2008 09:54:33 AM
The networks cancel good shows. I think I will just have to accept that TV is not there to entertain me alone. At least we will get an ending now though.
Agreed DanielKurland by Ashok0	Mar 22nd, 2008 09:57:57 AM
Miracles was freaking awesome. Much much better than either season of Jericho.
liljuniorbrown by Funketeer	Mar 22nd, 2008 10:25:55 AM
It's simple really, How I Met Your Mother lives on because it's a good show whereas Jericho sucked ass.
The "Longer" version of The Stand is better.... by travis-dane	Mar 22nd, 2008 10:31:52 AM
but it is ok to read both of them.I think the 300+ pages made the book even more "Epic"(in a good way).
stop dissin McCain over Iraq statements by lynxpro	Mar 22nd, 2008 11:51:13 AM
I mean really...we're still in Germany and Japan, 63 years after World War 2! So if you put that into perspective, the 100 year comment wasn't off-track.
About damn time. by thebearovingian	Mar 22nd, 2008 12:07:34 PM
I was that guy on the street corner with the sign that read "The End is Nigh". Jeric-HO.
Fuck Jericho by DeweyOxburger	Mar 22nd, 2008 12:14:05 PM
'It's Always Sunny' is the only show worth watching. That and A-Team reruns...oh, and 'Family Matters'
lynxpro has a point by Ashok0	Mar 22nd, 2008 12:18:46 PM
And Obama does seem like a nice guy... but he's too much of a boyscout. Part of me almost thinks we'd almost be better off with Clinton. :-o
whats with all the vm hate? by Mr_X	Mar 22nd, 2008 12:24:46 PM
cause boys and girls it was a fucking excellent series. ive watched each and every ep of both jericho and vm and vm was superior. the jericho pilot was great, a pity they didnt keep up that momentum. supernatual.. meh could never get into it.. i tried bros, i tried!
Jericho ending? by MonkeyManReturns	Mar 22nd, 2008 12:55:52 PM
Ratings...is all about ratings...you don't get good ratings, you don't get good sponsors...you don't get good sponsors, you don't get good money - and its all about the money. Jericho was cancelled cos it made no money. Numbers...(I refuse to stick the number 3 in that title)....is popular because its fans feel clever watching it, without actually thinking... basically is Murder Sh3 Wrot3 (heheh see what I did there?) with a maths teacher. Dumb Dumb Dumb. Jericho failed because it made people think...people don't like to think. And nor do TV execs.
uh oh! by samsquanch	Mar 22nd, 2008 02:18:06 PM
Someone just compared Iraq to WW2 again! Call the men in white coats!
It saddens me that Jericho is gone by samsquanch	Mar 22nd, 2008 02:19:51 PM
but it never really delivered. There were a few episodes that were great, but it was far too bogged down in its own soap opera cuteness. It should have been a straight up end-of-the-world disaster survivalist story. oh well.
(sigh) Lynxpro by jimmay	Mar 22nd, 2008 02:35:12 PM
Germany and Japan didn't have active insurgencies attacking our troops, Germany and Japan didn't have sectarian strife nearing a civil war raging between their own citizens, We occupied Germany and Japan after a World War in which we were attacked and retaliated (not pre-emptively attacked because we insisted they had weapons we eventually found out weren't there). World War II had widespread popular support, Iraq doesn't (again, because one was just, the other isn't). There is NOTHING, repeat NOTHING in common between Iraq now and Germany and Japan at the end of World War II. Christ, I don't even watch Jericho and was just reading the talkback out of curiosity sake, but I simply can't stand to suffer this bullshit McCain talking point to go unchallenged anymore.
It saddens me people watched this show by skywalkerfamily	Mar 22nd, 2008 02:35:15 PM
It sucked.
It saddens me people watch CSI by Ashok0	Mar 22nd, 2008 03:08:13 PM
Seriously, I'm not saying Jericho was the next The Wire. But it was a entertaining show. Please, if you're going to trash a series, vent your anger and a show that REALLY does suck like CSI: Miami.
SKYWALKERCUNT by suit and tie	Mar 22nd, 2008 03:08:38 PM
IT SADDENS ME THAT YOU CUNT OF A MOM DIDN'T ABORT YOUR FAGGOT ASS.
SKYWALKERCUNT by suit and tie	Mar 22nd, 2008 03:09:47 PM
WHY HASN'T THE AIDS KILLED YOU YET YOU COCKSUCKER.
SKYWALKERCUNT by suit and tie	Mar 22nd, 2008 03:10:36 PM
GO PLAY ON THE FREEWAY CUNT
(lolz) jimmay by Ashok0	Mar 22nd, 2008 03:16:50 PM
Don't be a tool. Saddam was purposefully playing games with weapons inspectors and playing charades to convince the world that he did have large amounts of WMDs. He was probably trying to look tough in an effort to scare Iran. And after 9/11, the US decided to take a risk and take his word at face value. You know, just like Bill Clinton suggested we do. "Saddam Hussein as usual is bobbing and weaving, we should call his bluff" -Bill Klinton, 2002
And that refutes my argument how? by jimmay	Mar 22nd, 2008 03:20:46 PM
Sorry for the thread hijack Jericho fans.
GOTHAM_NIGHT FUCKTARD by suit and tie	Mar 22nd, 2008 03:22:10 PM
IF YOUR GOING TO RUN TRASH GET IT RIGHT. AUTISM CAUSES PEOPLE TO WITHDRAW AND NOT BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE. COCKSUCKER YOU MEANT TO WRITE I'M THE POSTER BOY FOR TORRETT'S SYNDROME. GO SUCK SKYWALKERCUNTS MICROPENIS DUMMY. WHAT A FUCKING LOSER I HAVE TO HELP YOU WITH THE SMACK TALK. DID YOU DROP OUT OF THE SAME HOMESCHOOL SITUATION AS SKYWALKERCUNT?
wow, right to Clinton in 25 words or less by samsquanch	Mar 22nd, 2008 03:28:38 PM
That's probably a record for the Clinton-flip non-sequitur. Hear an argument you don't like that makes complete sense but challenges what you've been told to believe? Flip it around to Clinton. Works everytime.
gotham_night by Johnny Smith	Mar 22nd, 2008 03:31:26 PM
Suit and tie is not the poster child for autism, but for Tourette's, just like he said. Interestingly, this suit and tie jackass clearly knows his DSM-IV dispite his lack of knowledge about AIDS.
spelling by Johnny Smith	Mar 22nd, 2008 03:31:41 PM
I meant despite. My bust.
Jericho Sucks! by Luscious.868	Mar 22nd, 2008 03:35:14 PM
Let it die....
He's the poster child for ass wipes by skywalkerfamily	Mar 22nd, 2008 03:37:42 PM
I hate people that type in all caps that think they're making a point.
SKYWALKERCUNT YOU LOSER by suit and tie	Mar 22nd, 2008 03:57:16 PM
TAHT'S IT LAME-O I'M AN ASSWIPE/ I'M BEGINNING TO BELIEVE THE STORIES THAT YOU ARE IN FACT MENTALLY ILL ALONG WITH BE BEING A A MONGOLOID FUCTARD. WHAT'S THE OVER/UNDER ON POST TODAY YOU NO LIFE BITCHBOY? I'M GUESSING YOU'LL POST 400 STUPID ASSININE CUNTBOY STATEMENTS. DO THE WORLD A FAVOR POLESMOKER ONCE GOTHAM_NIGHT DONE BLOWING YOUR NOEXISTENAT COCK. KILL HIM AND YOURSELF IN A LOVERS QUARREL. FUCKTARD.
Suit and Tie has posted in every thread I have by skywalkerfamily	Mar 22nd, 2008 04:02:53 PM
He's a troll dick loving bastard that's looking for attention because his gay lover must be out hitting on chicks or something.
JONNY SMITH LIKES COCK by suit and tie	Mar 22nd, 2008 04:03:48 PM
HE'S FAMILIAR WITH AIDS. NUMBNUTS AIDS= AQUIRED IMMUNE DEFICIANCY SYNDROME IT'S A COLLECTION OF DIFFERENT DISEASES THAT END IN DEATH. THE PRIMARY ROUTE TO THE INFECTION IS THROUGH THE HIV VIRUS.DUMBFUCK WHAT DID I MISS? YOU SHOULD'VE USED PROTECTION WHEN ROMPING IN THE BATHOUSES IN SAN FRANCISCO TWINKLE TOES. NOW GO BACK TO SUCKING THE POLE NANCY BOY.
Good News! by Luscious.868	Mar 22nd, 2008 04:12:27 PM
Jericho blew. Make room for a show that doesn't suck.
LOL twinkle toes by optimus122	Mar 22nd, 2008 04:20:21 PM
Now thats comedy...sure he's a moron but that was funny
SKYWALKERCUNT by suit and tie	Mar 22nd, 2008 04:27:26 PM
I HAVEN'T POSTED EVERYWHERE YOU HAVE BECAUSE YOU ARE IN EVERY FUCKING TALKBACK DRIBBLING OUT THE SEMEN FROM YOUR MOUTH NANCY.
SKYWALKERCUNT YOU SNITCH by suit and tie	Mar 22nd, 2008 04:31:15 PM
I CAN FIGHT LIKE A FAIRY ALSO. i GET BANNED YOU GET BANNED! SNITCH RAT BASTARD FUCKTARD MONGOLOID LOSER. SINCE YOU SNITCHED ME OFF MY MISSION IS TO GET YOU ALSO CARROT GRABBER.
SKYWALKERCUNT I GO WHEN YOU GO by suit and tie	Mar 22nd, 2008 04:33:55 PM
SINCE YOU CAN'T GO BECAUSE YOU HAVE SOME PATHOLOGICAL NEED TO SHOW THE WORLD YOUR A DOCHENOZZLE FUCKTARD AND POST RELENTLESSLY IN EVERY TB I'VE GOT MY WORK CUT OUT FOR ME. I LAUGH AND LAUGH AT MY OWNED LITTLE BITCH.
Sorry for the Jericho fans by Trik_Ster	Mar 22nd, 2008 04:47:04 PM
I felt the same way when Surface was stealth canceled At least you had a shot at saving your show
unless you send them bars of fucking gold, this show is done by mthrndr	Mar 22nd, 2008 05:10:25 PM
that is all.
RE: SKYWALKERCUNT by Mr_X	Mar 22nd, 2008 05:35:17 PM
i like the use of profanity amalgamated with his username. skywalkercunt indeed.
HEY GOTHAM!!! by wackybantha	Mar 22nd, 2008 05:37:22 PM
YES!! JERICHO did have a plot!!! IN THE CEMETARY!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!! BECAUSE IT'S DEAD!!! BECAUSE IT's CANCELLED!!! AGAIN!!! GET IT!!!! I KILL ME!!!! JUST LIKE CBS KILLEE JERICHO!!! HAHAHAHA!!!! BTW, I liked the show and I am sad it's gone. To each his own...
It was mostly bad TV, it deserves to die. by Smashing	Mar 22nd, 2008 05:46:05 PM
Though here is hoping that if nuclear holocaust ever does happen, that surviving is as pain free and nice as they make it look.
I pity the Lost fans by fiester	Mar 22nd, 2008 06:00:28 PM
How will they respond when the show finally wraps up and they realize what utter bullshite it's been all along.
Who's the poser at 9:06 on 3/21 by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Mar 22nd, 2008 06:29:25 PM
encroaching on my name. I can respect his love of the movie, but name stealing ain't right. I'm gonna have to go gun kata on him
I hated Lost from episode 1 by Smashing	Mar 22nd, 2008 06:31:01 PM
The only way it could interest me now is if we find out its a Star Trek show and all the crew are having some mad holo fantasy.
booo by palooka_boy	Mar 22nd, 2008 07:16:43 PM
at least now I have a finite number of episodes to catch up on
I love how LOST fans are loving Season 4 by Ashok0	Mar 22nd, 2008 08:06:57 PM
Seriously. I love how LOST fans seem to be loving Season 4. Not to mention several of the fans theories are logically being explored in the series. Say what you want haters, but LOST has been delivering seven-hundred fold.
And overrated is overrated. by Ashok0	Mar 22nd, 2008 08:09:59 PM
LOST is overrated, BSG is overrated, Damages is overrated, The Wire is overrated, The Shield is overrated, DEXTER is overrated, Jericho is overrated ... blah blah blah. You know what IS actually overrated? Medical, forensics, and court room procedurals.
oh well, i did my part. by zom-bot.com	Mar 22nd, 2008 09:08:23 PM
i was a 'neilsen family' this year and i made sure to put down every time i watched jericho on cbs or in marathon on sci-fi. it just really sucks that channels go by such outdated systems as 'ratings' when, like someone above said, you got tivo and online and so many other ways to watch tv now. plus, it's hard to get sponsership and product placements in a show where society doesn't produce cokes or new cars or clothes anymore. RIP, JERICHO. before your time.
People who tivo or bit-torrent a show . . . by WickedJacob	Mar 22nd, 2008 09:20:56 PM
People who tivo or bit-torrent a show and then complain that the ratings don't count them are stupid. Ratings aren't about who is actually watching the show -- its about who is watching the commercial that pay for the show. If you are viewing a show in a form that skips the commercials, don't be surprised when the networks don't want to hear from you. Because you don't make them money. I avoid commercials whenever possible too, but I realize that makes me less important to the people who finance the shows I like. The difference is, I don't expect them to like me.
The thing I don't understand. by Ashok0	Mar 22nd, 2008 10:06:19 PM
Can't a Nielsen family fire up some shows on their TVs, and then grab the commercial free BitTorrent/Usenet rips and still beat the system?
"New Bern's attacking Jericho again!!! HOOKERS!!!!" by MrMysteryGuest	Mar 22nd, 2008 10:33:25 PM
Maybe they'll change CBS' mind!
nuts was the word last time. This time the word was 'revolution' by dalar	Mar 22nd, 2008 11:18:33 PM
of course, not talking about a violent uprising -- that would be short-lived although interesting. The modern ratings system is broke, it is missing so many factors -- those who download legally, those who download illegally (because they are in a country that streaming is 'unavailable'), DVD sales -- it is near pointless to use Neilson as-is any more. How many people do you all know who wait for the season to end, so they can watch the whole thing in a day? I would say, most people. Also, I don't care what the ratings people think, 8.1 million viewers is still a lot of people. For a mid-season replacement, at that. If 1% of all those people did something revolutionary, then maybe some executives might stop to think about 8.1 million+ fans as being an asset worth keeping. REVOLUTION is needed in TV. For shows like this, Firefly, Journeyman, and so on. Science fiction fans are supposed to be intelligent, I think 8 million of them together could come up with something beneficial for the fans, producers, cast & crew, AND the networks. It can't be about Fans VS Networks, the people won't win that fight. It's got to be something that gives all parties what they need. What kind of ideas do y'all have?
Since Sci-Fi Channel shows Jericho now... by Bill Clay	Mar 22nd, 2008 11:23:13 PM
How about a Jericho mini-series or some made-for-cable movies on Sci-Fi? It would beat the hell out of 'Mansquito' and those other lame movies that Sci-Fi produces now.
Someone bring back MIRACLES by Ashok0	Mar 22nd, 2008 11:53:27 PM
Now that was a Ulrich show to die for.
What's with all the VM talk??? by Sick Fixx	Mar 23rd, 2008 12:39:42 AM
It was a GIRL show!!! I admit I have Jabba the Hutt fantasies about Kristen Bell, but you're still watching a GIRL'S SHOW!!!
"It was a GIRL show!!!" by Mockingbird Girl	Mar 23rd, 2008 01:10:56 AM
Maybe... but at least it ran three full seasons. Suck it, JERICHO fans! :-P
Good, now Ulrich can go back and do Miracles again by Han Cholo	Mar 23rd, 2008 03:28:30 AM
That show kicked all kinds of ass. If ABC is smart, they'll bring that show back like they're bringing back Cupid. I think Miracles could be a hit now that those kind of shows seem to be all the rage.
Why would anyone want this shit saved? by Tourist	Mar 23rd, 2008 07:49:08 AM
It sucked so much the fans didn't even bother coming back after they had it spewed back into the airwaves.
Nooooo! Proof TV execs are fools! by CaptainBass	Mar 23rd, 2008 09:43:20 AM
Once again the Nielsen dinosaur devours another life! I loved Jericho but their problem was having the story drag so much through the first half of season one. I struggled to stay with it because not much happened, but was glad I did. I can't believe the new season has fared poorer because it has actually been better, as they trimmed away a lot of the fluff and got to the good stuff! Probably because they knew the sword of Damocles was dangling over their heads. Some may say it went a bit left-wing but hey this is the way your country is going and Americans sure as hell aren't going to hear about it on Fox (unfair & biased) News!
CaptainBass by Ashok0	Mar 23rd, 2008 02:37:05 PM
Well, with Barry Obama and John McCain in a dead heat, and the Democrat Congress sitting at an approval rating LOWER than President Bush, it's difficult to say if Americans are really shifting left.
jimmay by lynxpro	Mar 23rd, 2008 03:14:39 PM
Sorry to correct you, but there was an insurgency in Germany right after WWII. They called themselves the "Werewolves" and they targeted Allied soldiers as well as Germans they considered collaborators. The difference is that the majority of Germans felt that they had been totally defeated at the end of WWII whereas in Iraq, the Iraqis don't because we didn't blow up entire Iraqi cities like what happened to Dresden in WWII. The Sunni insurgency was totally delusional in thinking that if they killed Coalition forces, that Saddam's Baath regime would magically reappear and stomp the Kurds and Shiites back into submission.
Hooray! Less crap on the airwaves! by Live.	Mar 23rd, 2008 05:45:03 PM
Maybe the new space in the lineup will be filled with something good. We can hope.
Hey talkbackers... by Lenny Nero	Mar 23rd, 2008 06:52:23 PM
...even if you decide not to look toward the Neilsen ratings for Jericho and instead look into downloads, I-Tunes, streaming, DVR, etc., the show's ratings come up short. People didn't watch. It's sad, but it's true.
TiVo effect on ratings... by lynxpro	Mar 23rd, 2008 07:13:04 PM
Actually, the networks do look at TiVo Aggregate Viewer Data if you opted into the program when you first activated your TiVo. The trick is though, your viewership only counts if you watch the program within 2 days of when it was televised live.
Unlike some people by Napoleon Park	Mar 23rd, 2008 07:29:15 PM
I don't just drop into AICN talkbacks to make rude comments about shows I never or rarely saw or didn't like just to gloat when they get canceled. >p> >KoffJourneymanSuckedKoff< Oops. Sorry. Totally my bad.
Sometimes I wonder... by Forget_Byron	Mar 23rd, 2008 08:02:03 PM
why public forums were ever created? Were it just so some people could be totally insensitive assholes? I enjoyed Jericho, but I don't understand what benefit there is to slam people who don't care that the show was canned by insulting the shows they watch. At the same time, if you didn't enjoy this show, no need to be a dick about it. God forbid a show you like gets cancelled prematurely. The point is that I don't comprehend why the posters are arguing when if there is anger on the part of the fans it should be aimed at CBS and not the people who post here. And I completely don't understand at all why people who don't care are posting at all. My advice to those of you doing that is get off the computer, go upstairs, kiss your mom on the cheek and go outside.
Enough Jericho by kolchak	Mar 23rd, 2008 09:36:23 PM
Why the fuck isnt anyone mentioning John Adams around here?
To lynxpro by shoe1985	Mar 23rd, 2008 10:44:44 PM
CBS said they understood that people would watch the show on Tivo, DVR, and online, but they were looking at the numbers when it aired during its timeslot. Most people just fast forward through the commericals, and this is how CBS makes money from the show. If people are not watching the ads during the show, advertisers will not want to air their ads during that show. It isn't about whether the show is good or not for networks, it is whether is will draw them a lot of money. There is actually a thing for networks that says that the ads are the show, and the show is actually just what brings people to the ads. If that makes any sense.
WHY, GOD, WH..... by moviemenace	Mar 24th, 2008 02:26:21 AM
Oh, wait. I didn't make it past the pilot. Canceled. Eh, fuck it.
networks don't just make their money from the ads by Maniaq	Mar 24th, 2008 07:31:42 AM
they sell their programs to other networks - in other countries - it's the reason things like Emmies are important - or do people believe the Emmies are all about which programs sold the most diet cola?
Did anyone see..... by Underoos Hero	Mar 24th, 2008 08:35:06 AM
Did anyone see "The Jericho Mile?" Great movie. Check it out if you haven't....
cbs canceled by palewook	Mar 24th, 2008 12:08:11 PM
only show i watch on the channel. i catch dexter on showtime. what else does cbs have to offer?
Well I can't say by Nabster	Mar 24th, 2008 01:18:44 PM
I am surprised. From the very first episode it was clear this would not be a popular show imo.
CBS blows and here's why: by Jeditemple	Mar 24th, 2008 01:57:41 PM
They spend more money trying to calculate how many gay dudes to put on Big Brother every season than they do most of their shows.
lynxpro... by poeticwarriorII	Mar 24th, 2008 03:49:48 PM
It always kills me when ignorant fucks like this compare Iraq to Germany and Japan. Two entirely different situations that can't possibly relate to each other and they stick it up their ass, drag it around, and start yapping about it like wretched twats that don't know what the fuck they're talking about.
Skeet skeet skeet by imascooby1985	Mar 24th, 2008 09:42:03 PM
Does this mean we are gonna have to wait another ten years to see Skeet again?
poeticwarriorII by lynxpro	Mar 24th, 2008 09:45:49 PM
And it comes off as "ignant" that one would claim others are ignorant because they don't agree with your own personal view. Grow up, Chukka.
as for John Adams... by lynxpro	Mar 24th, 2008 09:52:31 PM
Episode 3 was flat. I can't wait for Episode 4 to see the reaction John Adams gets from his audience with King George (III). They also seriously whitewashed George Washington in the series. They act like the guy was so humble when he really showed up to the Continental Congress with a customized uniform that he paid to have made for himself. It wasn't issued by Virginia, and he was there to offer himself up, not turn down such an offer. The only time I've ever seen Washington portrayed "negatively" was on a Native American docu-drama on PBS hosted by Graham Green(e) about a year ago that showed him as anxious, greedy, and not the brightest CFL off the shelf at the local Home Depot. But regardless, Giamatti is doing well in the role of Adams, and Tom Wilkinson makes a great Ben Franklin.
It was nice to get a 7-ep wrapup ... by Epsilon	Mar 24th, 2008 11:20:00 PM
Like someone else said, this was a fun little show, but had too many flaws. I was really into the first several episodes of the first season, mainly because of the mystery of "Who did this and how much of the world is left?" But eventually that faded and the drama of a little Kansas town just couldn't hold my attention. They did a smart thing by offing Jake's parents and giving the show a bigger feel in S2. The black dude is a good actor. I hope he and Skeet find other work. Maybe it goes out with a bang! (pun intended)
Binks by GrammatonCleric	Mar 24th, 2008 11:58:01 PM
Whoa--way to call me out as I emerge from lurkdom. Actually I've had the user ID for a while, but don't have much time to post (generally surfing at work, you know). Love the flick, but I have noted and enjoyed many of your comments in the past. Since you have much more of a presence, and I don't want people to confuse your generally well-thought out opinions with my random musings, I'll probably switch up my ID. Keep up the good work and spread the word about getting off the Prozium.
"the black dude" 2 quote Epsilon... by lynxpro	Mar 25th, 2008 09:49:36 AM
...is a British actor, like most of the new faces on American tv this season. He even has a BBC America channel commercial in their "little bit of Brit" [I think that's what it's called] ad campaign.
Epsilon by kolchak	Mar 25th, 2008 11:15:01 AM
I'd still say that Morse looks the part better than any other I've seen. Still, the last episode was weak. It was too much of Adams sitting around a table of French douchebags.
^ I mean lynxpro by kolchak	Mar 25th, 2008 04:21:45 PM
God I'm out of it today.
Kolchak by lynxpro	Mar 25th, 2008 10:11:58 PM
Don't worry, I'm sure most of those French douchebag characters either got their heads lopped off in the Revolution or got killed by the 51st Century Clockwork Droids from "The Girl in the Fireplace".
BEST.EPISODE.EVER. by wackybantha	Mar 25th, 2008 10:38:25 PM
I LOVE YOU JERICHO!!!
I love Suit and Tie by finky089	May 2nd, 2008 03:28:33 PM

Eew, don't say that by Orcus	May 5th, 2008 08:47:03 AM
EEEEWW

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