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A New Behind The Scenes Feature About INDY 4 Shows Us "Shia LaBeouf In Action"!!

bugnuts by ArcadianDS	Mar 21st, 2008 08:54:02 AM
right?
Bugnuts by Urushihara	Mar 21st, 2008 08:54:23 AM
Indeed.
Shia...... by travis-dane	Mar 21st, 2008 08:56:25 AM
was ok in Disturbia.
Yeah,Bugnuts of course.... by travis-dane	Mar 21st, 2008 08:57:20 AM
bugnuts...
Oh Shia...these talkbackers are going to rape you... by FlickaPoo	Mar 21st, 2008 09:07:26 AM
...RUN...RUN!!
I'd cut myself.... by StarskyandHushky	Mar 21st, 2008 09:08:56 AM
...a nice piece of 'beouf'. What's this, 'The Adventures and Indiana Jones and Fonzie'?
Actually... by ScaryWaitress	Mar 21st, 2008 09:12:27 AM
sorry to point out, Starsky, but Fonzi would have been a contemporary of Indy's... he probably would have been around the age of Shia's character in this movie...
Worse and worse by Murk the Turk	Mar 21st, 2008 09:12:59 AM
This whole project is a joke. The last thing the franchise needed was another annoying child actor.
"Harrison is such a man's man... my Gawd..." by joeelliott	Mar 21st, 2008 09:15:34 AM
And that is why Shia doesn't work as the son of Jones
INDIANA JONES AND THE TERMINATOR 4 TALKBACK OF DOOM by LaserPants	Mar 21st, 2008 09:20:42 AM
GED DOO SUH CHAHPPAH!!!
Seriously Though, Who Did Shia Blow? by LaserPants	Mar 21st, 2008 09:23:57 AM
I mean, okay, I don't necessarily have anything against the kid. He was suitably awkward and funny in Transformers. But how the hell did he become the new "it" guy? All of a sudden, as if riding on the crest of a wave of a 1,000 blowjobs, Mr. LeBeaf is now the kid in every single movie. How? Where did he come from? The muck of the gollem bottle? Some powerful important father of media? Who Where How Why?
Ah, lLeave Shia alone... by slicer	Mar 21st, 2008 09:24:59 AM
He's a good kid, he'll be good, you watch! (and you know you will, no matter who's in it! (It's Indiana Jones for Christ's sake!)
Merric... by Billy Batts	Mar 21st, 2008 09:34:36 AM
...you are a whiny bitch.
k by Billy Batts	Mar 21st, 2008 09:35:06 AM

FUNNY by FastEddie8139	Mar 21st, 2008 09:41:48 AM
I about wet myself on "Harrison is SUCH a man's man..." I didn't realize Spielberg was taking the franchise in that direction.
And the problem with this kid is.... by seniorspeilbergio	Mar 21st, 2008 09:41:53 AM
what exactly? That he's a good, young actor who isn't metro sexual good looking and isn't out partying every night trying to fuck Lindsey Lohan? Seriously guys, if your fanboy jealousy was any more transparent, you could use it as a lens filter to shoot his scenes with. Shut the fuck up and get in line for May 22.
Ahh, two-fisted Shia Labeouf.... by C.K. Lamoo	Mar 21st, 2008 09:44:36 AM
The grestest action hero since Vincent Price.
Don't mess with Shia by dcervera	Mar 21st, 2008 09:46:04 AM
He cut you, man!
I'll still be going to the first matinee by just pillow talk	Mar 21st, 2008 09:47:25 AM
And I definitely would have stabbed myself 85 times.
Wouldn't a "man's man" be a "Mench" in this case?... by FlickaPoo	Mar 21st, 2008 09:55:44 AM
...just wondering...
Mutt Williams is his name? by Mister McClane	Mar 21st, 2008 10:02:56 AM
I was looking around on a toy site and it said the Shia character was called Mutt Williams! Surely this isn't true? So they named the dog Indiana, so the son gets called another word for dog? And Williams after John Williams? THAT I can live with...
Man's man... by RogueWarrior65	Mar 21st, 2008 10:05:52 AM
Lest we not forget that the kid was raised by Marion and fortunately the genetic rebel emerged. I still say that this would have to be the funnest film shoot ever.
Kingdom of the Crystal Skullfuck by random dude	Mar 21st, 2008 10:07:07 AM

Pork Sword Fighting hosted by Shia Le Beouf by Uncapie	Mar 21st, 2008 10:19:44 AM
Coming soon to a Walgreen's near you.
seniorspeilbergio... by poeticwarriorII	Mar 21st, 2008 10:19:53 AM
He's an annoying little twat, much like yourself. That's what's wrong with this kid. Lucas and Spielberg should be pistol whipped A. for writing this character in the first place and B. for having this twat play it. I dare say, this movie has a distinct possibility of flopping on its ass. Just like Star Wars those involved are way passed their prime. Especially Lucas who hasn't been worth a flying fuck since his bitchy wife left him.
Poeticwarrior by seniorspeilbergio	Mar 21st, 2008 10:31:18 AM
You're sad. What's it like to be that ignorant and full of hate for a project you haven't seen and no almost nothing about? You usually have to be a 16 year old girl or a Floridian to display that level of irrational anger and emotional immaturity. You're basis for hating him is he's an annoying little twat? Wow, that's a real solid argument there. Go cry in your Yoohoo you bitter little geek.
I know lots of hot women that love Shia...maybe there's hope for by Stereotypical Evil Archer	Mar 21st, 2008 10:39:24 AM

poetwarrior2 - you are a poet indeed! by joeelliott	Mar 21st, 2008 10:52:10 AM
The kid is annoying, in fact, the whole "kid" thing in these movies is fucking tarded. It reminds me of this comedian i saw talking about "Hey, you like Darth Vader? Yeah, I love Vader! Well in the new movie you get to see him as a little kid" Stop trashing these movies up with "family issues" I want a Doc Savage rip off when I watch an Indiana Jones movie, not a Daddy knows best re-run.
Indy 4: Terminator 4: Superman 2.0 2 by bobjustbob	Mar 21st, 2008 11:05:22 AM
Shia was ok in Disturbia. But remember Hayden Christensen was ok in Shattered Glass.
It Became Like My Tetris by DKT	Mar 21st, 2008 11:05:43 AM
I know I'm supposed to not like Shia but I can't help kinda lovin' the kid. The switchblade action sounds cool.
Sorry all you anti-beauffers, but... by ArcadianDS	Mar 21st, 2008 11:21:00 AM
Shia has got this part nailed, and you know it. the switchblade juggling thing wasn't even part of the movie, just something he decided his character would be able to do, so he found every spare moment to play with it and he learned some great tricks - and Spielberg said, 'thats great - we'll put that in the movie.' If he was as horrible an actor as you'd like us to believe, that kind of dynamic would never happen. Mark my words - this 'kid' (hes like, an adult right?) is going to continue to show up in film after film and why? Because he's got the chops. I can't really remember any glaring 'miscastings' by Spielberg before - the guy seems to know how to find the right people for the right roles in his films. How you can knock this particular casting, in a film you've yet to see, given the vast history of evidence in Spielberg's library of films that seems to completely destroy your every theory? go ahead. I'm willing to hear you out.
Listen up, you spoiled brats! by JumpinJehosaphat	Mar 21st, 2008 11:21:06 AM
Back in Shia's simulated 50's, he didn't have your modern Tetris! He DID something with his simulated 50's life! He learned to flip a knife around! THAT was what the fake people in his simulated day called VIDEO GAMES! No get your pansy asses there and breathe some real air and kiss a girl, for crissake!
Indiana Jones and the Impossible to Please Dorks by darthvedder81	Mar 21st, 2008 11:31:40 AM
I used to be wary of Shia too. Then I saw him in "Disturbia" and "Transformers" and changed my mind. (He's the only thing that made "Bayformers" even watchable). There's really no good reason to hate the guy. He's obviously very enthusiastic about the movie and doesn't seem at all interested in hogging the spotlight. Is this going to be better than RAIDERS? Hell no, but that's also ONE OF THE GREATEST MOVIES OF ALL TIME. Jeebus, learn to have realistic expectations for things. All it needs to be is a fun action-adventure movie in the vein of TEMPLE and CRUSADE and I'll be happy.
Indiana Jones and the Impossible to Please Dorks by darthvedder81	Mar 21st, 2008 11:31:42 AM
I used to be wary of Shia too. Then I saw him in "Disturbia" and "Transformers" and changed my mind. (He's the only thing that made "Bayformers" even watchable). There's really no good reason to hate the guy. He's obviously very enthusiastic about the movie and doesn't seem at all interested in hogging the spotlight. Is this going to be better than RAIDERS? Hell no, but that's also ONE OF THE GREATEST MOVIES OF ALL TIME. Jeebus, learn to have realistic expectations for things. All it needs to be is a fun action-adventure movie in the vein of TEMPLE and CRUSADE and I'll be happy.
Can somebody explain the Shia hate? by Rev. Slappy	Mar 21st, 2008 11:47:36 AM
I just don't get it. But I am not 14. He has been good in everything I have seen him in. Hell, he was the only good thing about Transformers besides ILM. Can somebody explain the hate for him?
Darthvedder.... by seniorspeilbergio	Mar 21st, 2008 11:59:17 AM
You said everything that needed to be said on this subject. Yes, the best special effect in Transformers was that kids performance.
Shia hate needs an explanation? by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Mar 21st, 2008 12:01:26 PM
Have you ever heard of anything called being MIS-CAST?!! He looks completely fucking ridiculous in that bad ass greaser look. Does anyone believe the Jew-fro Wonder is cool enough to be Indiana Jones' kid? Give me a fucking break.
Shitty the Beef was in TINO... by photoboy	Mar 21st, 2008 12:04:57 PM
... that's why people hate him. He'll always be remembered for being associated with Bay's shitfest.
I love Indiana Jones...... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Mar 21st, 2008 12:05:42 PM
.....but seeing this little rat faced bastard in this film makes me wanna fucking cry. Its a complete corporate studio sell-out thing on Spielberg's part too. After the success of Disturbia and Transformers under the Berg's beloved Dreamworks-- he figures Shia is the go-to kid for any male roles 17-25. Fucking ridiculous. Why not cast an unknown? A kid that really looks like he can scrap.
These behind-the-scenes shorts really suck. by Karl Hungus	Mar 21st, 2008 12:14:42 PM
I like the ones for Quantum of Solace MUCH, MUCH better. These Indy featurettes are pretty sloppy and lifeless, like a third grader put them together.
I've got 2 questions by seniorspeilbergio	Mar 21st, 2008 12:20:35 PM
Are you all absolutely sure he's supposed to be Indy's son in this? From what I understand, this is a rumor and hasn't been confirmed. Second, if he is, why are you all assuming he has to be a tough guy like his father? Indy's dad is a geeky bookworm so by your rationale shouldn't Indy also be an introverted nerd? For all you know, he's more like his grandpa or a mixture of the two characters. If there's a hole in my logic please explain.
seniorspeilbergio by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Mar 21st, 2008 12:27:27 PM
I am not assuming that his character has to be a tough guy. He is a greaser who drives a fucking motorcycle in the 50's for Christ's sake. Traditionally these sort of characters are bad asses. Not 90 pound dorks. And even the geeky characters in the Indy universe such as Henry Jones or Marcus Brody are still cool. Sean Connery and Denholm Elliot? Those two are fucking awesome. There is absolutely nothing cool about Shia.
Where's gold bug? by wowsucks	Mar 21st, 2008 12:31:52 PM
Really I think there was more to that then meets the eye with it. I think Shia has the shot to prove he is a good actor, he might just have needed a more mature role to display what he can do plus much better lines. I will hold judgment until after.
wowsucks..... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Mar 21st, 2008 12:32:52 PM
It has absolutely nothing with being a good actor. It has to do with being miscast. Aawwwww fuck. I'm gonna go cry, I cant talk about this shit anymore.
really by seniorspeilbergio	Mar 21st, 2008 12:36:05 PM
Marcus "got lost in his own museum" Brody was cool? Missed that. I thought the whole idea of mining comedy out of that character in Last Crusade was that he wasn't cool but absolutely clueless. Same with Henry Jones Sr. The comedy for that character was in the contrast between him and his uber cool, adventuring son. And do you really think that every single person who rode a bike in the 50's was cool? Really? Was there a Marlon Brando litmus test you had to pass at the dealership before you could legally own one? Man, I wish they would enact that law today because I've seen a lot of dorks on bikes where I live. Besides, I always thought this character was based off of Lucas in his teenage greaser years. He was a hot rodding greaser but guess what? Not so cool.
seniorspeilbergio by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Mar 21st, 2008 12:40:05 PM
If you believe Shia is perfect for this role-- then good for you.
place me firmly in the pro-Shia camp by Lemming	Mar 21st, 2008 12:40:53 PM
What the fuck is your problem? I take it you all hated the idea of Short Round before you saw Temple of Doom, then? Fuck off the lot of you whiny hypocritical bitches.
DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD... by wowsucks	Mar 21st, 2008 12:42:41 PM
But his face and style fits that of era he is playing. Most those guys where small punks, in those days you didn't have huge strong dudes in white under shirts running around. Also he isn't to much of a pretty boy to pull of a rugged role. Top of my head I can't think of another actor around that age to play it.
Lemming by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Mar 21st, 2008 12:45:04 PM
I would never......EVER say a bad thing about Short-Round. I fucking adore that character.
Spielberg's opinion of Shia as an actor is enough for me. by Rev. Slappy	Mar 21st, 2008 12:48:58 PM
I read venom being spewed at Shia prior to his being cast in Indy. And since none of us has seen the film there is no way we can judge his performance in it. Is he even playing a tough guy character in it? Sorry DANNYGLOVERS, but I will take Spielberg's opinion of Shia over yours any day.
Dickblood... by seniorspeilbergio	Mar 21st, 2008 12:49:47 PM
Perfect? I don't know. I haven't seen the movie yet. But Spielberg cast him so I'll put my faith in that. Word on the street is he's pretty good at what he does. Now if this were Lucas' idea, I'd be pretty fucking depressed.
Dammit... by seniorspeilbergio	Mar 21st, 2008 12:52:20 PM
Rev. Slappy. You and I appear to have written the exact same post but worded differently. You beat me to the punch, dude.
And nobody has really answered my question. by Rev. Slappy	Mar 21st, 2008 12:54:44 PM
For those of you who hate him, why do you? If you think he is a bad actor, give me examples of his work you don't like.
Rev. Slappy... by seniorspeilbergio	Mar 21st, 2008 12:56:34 PM
They won't. You presented them with a logical question.
I think Shia is a good actor... by wowsucks	Mar 21st, 2008 12:58:07 PM
Only thing I have seen in a neg light was his type casting as that teen role without the best scripts. Over all from what I have seen him in he did a great job making the movie even if a weak story fun.
Emile Hirsch by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Mar 21st, 2008 01:07:14 PM
Would have been bad ass in this role.
Rev. Al Sharpton Slappy by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Mar 21st, 2008 01:09:47 PM
I just dont like him. I find him to be extremely annoying with that bumbling charming bullshit he pulls. I'm not saying he is a bad actor, but he has basically played the same character since that Even Stevens show. Whenever I lay eyes him I want to crack him in the nose with a tire iron.
Joseph Gordon Levitt by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Mar 21st, 2008 01:11:11 PM
as well. Better choice for the role.
DICKBLOOD by seniorspeilbergio	Mar 21st, 2008 01:14:53 PM
Can I borrow your time machine? I say that because you've obviously seen this movie already since you're saying So and So is perfect for this role. Oh well, I'm glad you finally admitted that your vile for his casting is completely based on irrational anger and plain old mean spiritedness.
Shia hate explained by kolchak	Mar 21st, 2008 01:17:25 PM
You say he's been good in everything he's been in. Yeah, okay...fair enough. But he was playing the same fucking character in every major project he's ever been in. He's never been challenged. And an Indy film is NOT the place for him to start.
Say what you want about Shia, by The Skeptical	Mar 21st, 2008 01:17:56 PM
but he handles that sword like a wus. Just saying.
Kolchak... by seniorspeilbergio	Mar 21st, 2008 01:40:15 PM
So you think the character in Disturbia, the juvenile delinquint, was the same as the picked on shy kid he played in Transformers? And who cares if he's challenged or not? What does that have to do with liking or not liking him in Indy 4? I just want him to play the role as written in THIS film.
um, ROLLERSKATES, hello? by LegoKenobi	Mar 21st, 2008 01:55:09 PM
everyone's so busy crying about shia labeouf (who i have no problem with, for the record) that it seems that nobody has noticed that harrison is pulling a marty mcfly on roller skates or something, being towed by shia on his bike. i mean, is that crazy, or what?
seniorspeilbergio by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Mar 21st, 2008 02:01:15 PM
The character in Disturbia is not at all like the character in Transformers-- true. But you wouldnt know that from Shia's performances. You could pull out scenes from either of those films and cut them into the other and no on would question it was from one film. That is a weak actor. Like Jack Nicholson in his last five films-- bla bla bla. All the same shit.
DICKBLOOD by seniorspeilbergio	Mar 21st, 2008 02:06:53 PM
Are you serious? They don't seem like the same to me at all? His performance in Transformers is shy and awkward and his performance in Disturbia is brooding and slightly arrogant. By the way Nicholson has always had limited range. Maybe you just don't understand subtlety of performance. Perhaps you would like it if his acting style was a little more "in your face". But then there would be no such thing as performance subtext.
I want MAN-BEAR-PIG: THE MOVIE by random dude	Mar 21st, 2008 02:11:39 PM

seniorspeilbergio by kolchak	Mar 21st, 2008 02:21:52 PM
Watching "Transformers" and "Disturbia" back to back I see the character of a smug teenage prick from the ME generation appaearing in both films. I saw it in "Even Stevens" and I saw it in "Holes" too. He has ONLY played himself. He plays modern teenagers. Throwing him into a period role, let alone one of the most anticipated films of all time, is not a good idea.
So wow. . .what about Karen Allen. . . by Rikrik_the_Wise	Mar 21st, 2008 02:28:35 PM
All this Shia hate is really off base. Watch the film, then decide whether or not to hate him. If you walk into the theater preparing to hate a character, then it's going to make the movie a lesser experience for you.
Smug? by seniorspeilbergio	Mar 21st, 2008 02:32:56 PM
You've got to be fucking kidding me. Of all the examples of smug teenage pricks in film and television we have to choose from you single out this guy? That's fucking laughable. The reason he's able to play down to earth teenage characters is because, unlike the rest of his acting generation, he's humble and it's obvious if you've seen any behind the scenes interviews with this kid or bothered to watch how he behaved on that awful Project Greenlight show. Would a smug teenage prick introduce himself in the comic-con video as "Hi, I'm Shia Lebouf and I have no idea what I'm doing in this movie"? Yeah, he's real smug, dude. And as far as only playing himself, I think you're confusing that with the fact that he brings some of his personality to his role in order to ground it in believability which is what every good actor does, otherwise it becomes overstylized and lacks truth. By the way, the ME generation refers to baby boomers in the 70's not these young bucks.
Rikrik... by seniorspeilbergio	Mar 21st, 2008 02:34:32 PM
you are wise.
Dickblood by TiVo1138	Mar 21st, 2008 02:37:05 PM
As for him "playing the same character" or type in every movie he's in, you can say the same thing about Harrison Ford, Tom Cruise, Adam Sandler, Humphrey Bogart, and a shitload of other movie stars.
by kolchak	Mar 21st, 2008 02:37:49 PM
River Pheonix wasn't smug. SHia is fucking smug. Of course he's gonna say he doesn't know what he's doing in the movie. Know why? Because he knows damn well he has no place being there. He's in over his head.
Vomits by fiester	Mar 21st, 2008 02:38:19 PM
I ain't seeing this: such is my detest for The Beef.
Tom Cruise and Adam Sandler by kolchak	Mar 21st, 2008 02:39:18 PM
Lost it a LONG time ago. Harrison Ford is not a prime example. Watch The Mosquito Coast or What Lies Beneath.
seniorspeilbergio by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Mar 21st, 2008 02:43:36 PM
Give me a fucking break with that bullshit, "I have no idea what I'm doing in this movie," quote. Because of that you find Shia to be a humble human being? It was a fucking act. No different than George Clooney playing that cool average Joe in every interview he has ever done when in reality he is an arrogant prick as well. You believe what these people hand feed you as their public image? Kolchak is completely accurate in summing up Shia's arrogance. And its funny you brought up Project Greenlight. I was just about to mention what a prick he was on that show.
TiVo1138 by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Mar 21st, 2008 02:44:48 PM
I would say the same thing about Adam Sandler and Humphrey Bogart. Yes. The other ones....no. You're telling me Tom Cruise was the same character in Top Gun, Far and Away, and Interview with the Vampire?
KOLCHACK.... by seniorspeilbergio	Mar 21st, 2008 02:45:55 PM
You just contradicted yourself. If he said that because HE KNOWS he's in over his head then how can he possibly be smug. If he was smug then he would act like HE KNOWS he's the shit and Speilberg's lucky to work with him. Reread your post before you hit send, dude.
DICKBLOOD by seniorspeilbergio	Mar 21st, 2008 02:48:07 PM
Please give me an example of how he was a prick on Project Greenlight. He seemed to me to be the only one on that set that was grateful for the opportunity.
by kolchak	Mar 21st, 2008 02:51:33 PM
Just because one acts smug doesn't mean they don't really know what's going on. He's not going to outright admit that he's a one dimensional actor. Look at the way he bragged about being able to flip a fucking knife. He acts like that adds a whole new level to the film. He's obviously proud of himself and turns on the "I'm just a normal kid" act whenever he feels it suits him.
Oh really KOLCHACK... by seniorspeilbergio	Mar 21st, 2008 02:58:07 PM
So this is an act he keeps up 24/7? Right. Through the entire run of Project Greenlight? Being filmed on set 14 hours a day with a calltime of 6:00am? Do you know any actors? Have you ever stepped onto a set? Because i have. In fact, I'm writing this on a soundstage right now. And I know a lot of actors. Some smug. Some humble. That smug shit is always fucking transparent. You can't keep that up for long no matter how good an actor you are. You boys have got to stop talking out of sheer ignorance. But I forgive you. You know not what you do.
Again, I Have Nothing Against The Kid by LaserPants	Mar 21st, 2008 03:03:51 PM
I just don't understand what the big deal is, why he's being made to be the new "it" guy. It wasn't like, "oh here is this guy who did a really great job in this indie movie, now he's a big star." He just appeared, as a SuperStar, seemingly out of nowhere. You know what I mean? They're creating a superstar. Sort of like how Sentry was awkwardly shoe-horned into the Marvel Universe without any background or prior work / exploits. That was the point of my prior post. I'm not hating, I'm just... perplexed. Hence the theory that he is the son of an important media mogul, or has been on his knees quite a bit, doling blow jobs to all takers.
Why the Shia hate? by Mattyboy122	Mar 21st, 2008 03:07:03 PM
Because he's a one-note actor, perhaps? To be fair, Harrison Ford is kind of a one-note actor, but at least that one-note is damn fun to watch, not grating like Shia's awkward teen sidekick schtick. PLUS, his whole schtick will undoubtedly drive the new Indy flick into Last Crusade territory (not single-handedly, but it will certainly add to striving for campiness), which is dreaded for any true Indy fan (okay, that's a bit dogmatic, but I think it's pretty difficult to argue that Raiders isn't the best film in the series).
Examples for Rev Slappy by Embeedeuce	Mar 21st, 2008 03:08:21 PM
Well, Shia was terrible in Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. (lol)
LaserPants.... by seniorspeilbergio	Mar 21st, 2008 03:25:33 PM
I see your point. I like him but yes they seem to be making him into the "it" kid. I don't think it has anything to do with blowjobs however. I think it's because of what some of the other talkbackers have alluded to: the new generation of young actors suck. I can tell you from personal experience that most of the young actors now are spoiled, arrogant rich kids who just party all night and see acting not as a serious endevour but a cool lifestyle. So when a kid like Shia comes along with his head on his shoulders, great acting talent, doesn't go out club hoping when he has a 7am call time the next day and looks and behaves like an ordinary kid all the casting directors start falling all over themselves to cast him in every role that calls for "an average kid". It's not that he's the shit but that almost no one else his age has there shit together in this town. I wish there were more young actors like him.
Looks like Shia pulls a "Leonardo di Caprio" by travis-dane	Mar 21st, 2008 03:37:29 PM
he's becoming a huge star,but is deeply hated by the geeks.Let's see how this one turns out....I smell OSCAR in 12 years.
Ford is much more of a concern. by RandySavage	Mar 21st, 2008 03:43:52 PM
Shia is a very minor factor for me. This film will sink, float or soar on Ford's ability to resurrect Indy within himself and not look like an "aged Harrison Ford playing Indiana Jones." I go back in forth. In that clip in the video of him "skateboarding" behind Shia, he looked good, same as in Last Crusade. In the DK Indy Guide book photo that came out last week, he looked like a propped -up cadaver. Hopefully the next trailer will answer this question.
Leave Shia a-loooooneeeee!!! by SpencerTrilby	Mar 21st, 2008 04:12:45 PM
heh I had to say it; seriously though, he's more than decent as an actor. I for one find him likeable, and not irritating at all (he was clearly the only good thing in Transformers). The geek hate is 45% jealousy, 45% catchphrase/meme madness, and the 10 % left are those who genuinely can't stand him. I have the survey right under my eyes.
seniorspeilbergio by kolchak	Mar 21st, 2008 04:25:41 PM
Not even Lindsay and Paris are kept track of 24/7.
Why Do You Fags Hate Shia So Much? by The Ender Smites Foes	Mar 21st, 2008 04:27:34 PM
Seriously, can anyone point me to something this kid did to garner all the hatred? Transformers sucked ass, but he was not bad in that movie, and Disturbia was okay, would've been better with an R rating but it was far from bad. What am I missing? Besides the fact that you are jealous and eat your own semen, what's wrong?
Kolchak doesn't have any friends by darthvedder81	Mar 21st, 2008 04:38:28 PM
Kolchak, you are just arguing for the sake of arguing now. I'm sure you're a better, more charismatic actor than Shia though. Spielberg should have cast you instead!
ROFLMAO -- that is the campest thing ever. by The Gospel According to Bastardface	Mar 21st, 2008 04:43:26 PM
Oh my Gawd! Watching Shia play with his little sword and swoon for Harrison Ford and his manliness.
Darthvedder... by seniorspeilbergio	Mar 21st, 2008 04:43:39 PM
well said. Kolchak, in order to argue a point, you must have one to begin with. Your last comment doesn't make any sense. What are you saying? Stop sniffing glue little boy.
At least by kolchak	Mar 21st, 2008 04:46:55 PM
Anton Yelchin has demonstrated some kind of acting range. You know...varying characters. Personally I'd go for an unknown though.
senior by kolchak	Mar 21st, 2008 04:48:14 PM
The point would be that you implied he couldn't possibly keep up an act of being smug because he's surrounded by cameras SO incredibly often. I call bullshit.
KOLCHAK.... by seniorspeilbergio	Mar 21st, 2008 04:51:46 PM
Let me state this one more time since you obviously keep forgetting it. You're casting a character for a movie you haven't seen and know almost nothing about. Let it go dude. You're not winning this one. The more you write, the more you demonstrate your own ignorance.
Well by kolchak	Mar 21st, 2008 04:54:41 PM
I'm glad you abaondoned your stance that my post made no sense. Since that's obviously been debunked/clarified. But im not casting a character. I'm not even saying Shia won't kick major ass. I'm just saying that as of now he hasn't shown me that he has what it takes to be in one of the biggest fan films of all time.
KOLCHAK by seniorspeilbergio	Mar 21st, 2008 04:55:24 PM
You're obviously an idiot. You're proposing he keeps up an act ALL DAY on set to fool everyone into believing he's not smug. Project Greenlight shot him ALL DAY on set genius. That's a 12 to 14 hour day 5 to 6 days a week. I call bullshit on your basic grasp of reality. You're reaching dude.
KOLCHAK by seniorspeilbergio	Mar 21st, 2008 04:57:00 PM
It's not a fan film to the people who make it. It's just a film. Try to keep that in mind.
It's not a stretch. by kolchak	Mar 21st, 2008 04:57:11 PM
Check out Day Lewis some time. That guy can go for MONTHS.
I would keep that in mind by kolchak	Mar 21st, 2008 04:58:09 PM
If the makers hadn't already stated that they were doing this for the fans and with the fans completely in mind.
Seniorspeilberio... you're painfully WRONG. by TheGhostWhoLurks	Mar 21st, 2008 05:04:14 PM
Shia LaBeouf HAS played the same annoying, smart-mouthed, smug goof-off teenager in just about every film he's been in. Holes, Constantine, I Robot, Disturbia, Transformers... pick your "favorite" LaBeouf flick. That's why so many people are annoyed and mystified by his continual casting in movies where such an annoying character often seems shoehorned in simply so LaBeouf can make an appearance. Did Constantine or I, Robot need his character to make the film any better? No. Were his characters even relevant to the STORY? No. So why was he IN them??? THAT'S why we don't like him. He's the unwanted, loud little brother your mom always forces you to take with you when you go out to have fun, and inevitably ends up ruining the whole experience with his predictably annoying antics.
KOLCHAK by seniorspeilbergio	Mar 21st, 2008 05:06:16 PM
They're main obligation is to tell a story they want to tell and hope it's good enough. They still know what's best for the series not you. You see before you ever knew about Indian Jones it was already a fully formed concept in there minds without your help. They don't need your approval for casting. And you're really going to cling to the fact that Shia is keeping up an act most of the time because Daniel Day Lewis is a good actor? What are you on? Go for months? What the fuck does that mean? Are you drunk?
GHOSTWHOLURKS... by seniorspeilbergio	Mar 21st, 2008 05:09:13 PM
I disagree. His performance in Disturbia was different than his other roles. And are you saying that the parts in those films were written in just to give him a part?
MERRICK HATES INDY!! by skywalkerfamily	Mar 21st, 2008 05:16:46 PM
But loves shit like Jason VS Predator.
Guys... by seniorspeilbergio	Mar 21st, 2008 05:18:55 PM
Look how far your reaching just to prove that this kid is going to suck in a movie you haven't seen yet? You guys are now grasping at the most outlandish theories just to prove Shia Lebouf shouldn't be in this movie. Just admit you have a personal grudge against this guy for the opportunities he's been given in life and the talent he has that you don't. It's obvious your hatred is personal and irrational. You'll feel better if your honest with yourselves about your true feelings.
First of all by kolchak	Mar 21st, 2008 05:26:34 PM
Day Lewis can stay in character every day of the week of shooting even off set. Second, this isnt the Spielberg who made Jaws, it's the Spielberg who went back and removed guns from E.T. to be politically correct. This is the Lucas who created Jar Jar Binks. Just because they made the franchise doesn't mean they're godlike in all of their decisions.
The Insuppressible Sense of Loathing in this Report! by Dystopika	Mar 21st, 2008 05:44:26 PM
With such an economy of words, Merrick conveys his seething contempt for this movie. Contempt for a Spielberg-directed Indiana Jones movie -- on AIN'T IT COOL NEWS! I love it! It's going to be one crazy summer!!!
KOLCHAK by seniorspeilbergio	Mar 21st, 2008 05:44:42 PM
Who said they're infallible? I just trust there decision making process A LOT more than yours. And how do you know Lewis can stay in character every day of the week? Do you know him? Didn't you state earlier that these people aren't filmed 24/7? I don't know if you know this but the performances on screen only account for a fraction of the actual shooting day, method actor or not. And the films themselves traditionally shoot only for a few months then they go back to there normal lives where they don't run around acting like other people all day. And even if they wanted to put up a constant act, why would they? Again, though, why are you so bitter about someone else's success? It's not his fault your life is unfulfilling.
I'd rather have Short Round back by Anakin Whoopass	Mar 21st, 2008 05:52:10 PM
I don't think I've even seen anything Shia's been in, I just think it'd be more fun to catch up with adult Short Round in this movie.
Lucas especially by kolchak	Mar 21st, 2008 05:52:22 PM
is prone to fuck things up. Day Lewis has been reported to stay in character throughout production. Why would Shia act humble when cameras are rolling? The same reason Nicole Ritchie or any other person would: to avoid negative press.
Guys Shia doesn't suck, POSSIBLY miscast though by IndustryKiller!	Mar 21st, 2008 05:53:19 PM
I admit I am one of the people who slapped their forehead when they heard about Labeouf's casting, then again when i saw the character he was playing. Now with a little time I've mellowed and I think gained a bit more clarity on the subject. First of all I don't think hate or adoration is appropriate here. there is too much left up in the air. I can think of a million actors who are worse than Shia Labeouf, he was the only good thing about Transformers, even for this role. Imagine if it had been Josh Hartnett or something shudders. Spielberg isn't the casting dynamo he once was. Look at Tom Cruise in War of the Worlds. Spielberg wanted to work with him again so he shoehorned him into an everyman role, which, as good an actor as Cruise is, he just naturally doesn't fit. Imagine if Spielberg had casting someone like a Richard Dreyfuss. A real everyman just barely holding on as the world literally fell apart around him, how much more dramatic that would have been. Instead Cruise never comes off as anything less than completely capable. Spielberg, for better or worse, nowadays casts his dependable friends, rather than always marrying an actor to a role. I'm afraid in this instance Spielbergs personal preference for Labeouf may have clouded his judgement. The fact of the matter is if someone said to anyone int his message board "I need you to make a list of actors to play Indiana Jones' 50's greaser illegitimate son" there isn't a person here, SPielbergio or otherwise, who would have put Labeouf near the top of that list. it's not that Labeouf isn't any good, it has nothing to do with his talent, but any actor, with the exception of maybe Daniel Day Lewis and Meryl Streep, just has certain qualitites that are beyond their reach. I'm also unsure that it's a good idea to give Indy a sidekick, I think it's a step back. The great thing about Henry Jones senior is that he was an equal to Indy, a perfect foil. They shared similar qualities but were different int he perfect comedic ways without it ever seeming cloying or reaching for a laugh. And even on paper if there is anyone who can match Ford's rugged masculinity combined with sardonic wit it's James Bond himself. You heard that pairing and right off the bat it seemed right. Labeouf....I dunno. I'm not saying he has no range, but there are certain qualities he isn't going to be able to shake, qualitites that have been evident in the roles he's playing. He might be better than we expect him to be personally, but not the perfect marriage that we have come to expect from Indiana Jones films. With that said I'm hoping that it'll work out and trying to muster all my strength to keep an open mind when I hit that theater even if I have been critical in the past.
KOLCHAK by seniorspeilbergio	Mar 21st, 2008 06:03:09 PM
You're not paying attention. He can't keep that up all the time. Daniel Day lewis can't keep it up all the time. I don't care how good an actor he is. You obviously are reaching with your outlandish theories because you deeply envy this kids life. I'll keep asking the same question until you face it: Why are you so bitter about someone else's success? Why is it so important to you?
Yeah, that Lucas sure fucks things up. by skywalkerfamily	Mar 21st, 2008 06:05:35 PM
His billions of dollars and nearly 12 films prove it.
Senior by kolchak	Mar 21st, 2008 06:05:36 PM
I have to confess. I really am envious. I wish I could have starred in that MASTERPIECE Transformers and gotten caught wandering around drunk in a Chicago Walgreens...
Industry Killer by seniorspeilbergio	Mar 21st, 2008 06:13:07 PM
I see your point. You are right about Spielberg. He had a slump there and casting definately suffered but I think Munich was a return to form. But of course, my main point is, none of us know what the character is going to be. Assuming he's supposed to follow in Fords rugged style i think, is a mistake. As i stated up there somewhere before I got so far off track, if he's based off of a young greaser George Lucas than Lebouf seems entirly appropriate. Nothing in that trailer indicates to me that he's playing a tough guy of any sort. With Ford also having to approve his casting I'm hopeful. That doesn't mean, however this couldn't be a mistake. These guys aren't perfect. I just think a lot of the misgivings for Shia's casting hinge on a lot of assumptions of what people think the character is going to be. We really don't know.
you're right skywalker by kolchak	Mar 21st, 2008 06:13:19 PM
Rich people never make bad decisions.
IndustryKiller, I gotta disagree about Cruise in WotW by SpencerTrilby	Mar 21st, 2008 06:15:13 PM
I thought he did a pretty convincing job. His last scene in particular really moved me and I totally bought him in that part. And that comes from someone who's loathing Jerry Maguire (Cruise as a yuppie experiencing a change of heart and a newfound disgust for cynicism? THAT was a stretch for me - to each his own)
It's okay Kolchak... by seniorspeilbergio	Mar 21st, 2008 06:19:36 PM
You can always quit the bobble head factory and get a girlfriend. Okay, maybe just the former. Wow, you're really upset about people having different opinions than you, aren't you?
seilbergio, enough with the personal attacks by IndustryKiller!	Mar 21st, 2008 06:20:24 PM
Its unbecoming of you and it cheapens your argument. I think I explained, at least in part, a lot of the skepticism of Labeoufs part. If anything I'm happy he is getting a shot compared to many others. It's sad that someone like Labeouf get's this unfair "not beautiful" tag, when someone like the far more creepy looking Zac Efron (to use a contemporary) get's to be a heartthrob, and without an ounce of talent behind it, somehow gets to make movies with Richard Linklater. Like I said, it's nothing personal against Labeouf, I think he's a good actor, I'm just afraid this part might not be up his alley. But we'll see. Oh, and Lewis does stay in character, at least for the most part. That's one method acting is. Creating conditions for yourself that immerses you in the role in every possible way.
I don't think Lucas lost it completely by SpencerTrilby	Mar 21st, 2008 06:22:52 PM
he just took a couple of terrible decisions that alienated many fans (especially the ancient ones) and prevented the Prequels to shine (mildly) until midway through them. Shame, but nothing will rob him from the great renewal in storytelling that was the first Star Wars. If only this proves that he can start good, but struggles to finish the job. That's worrying for Indy IV but I try to keep the faith while not setting my hopes too high. Which is not the most easy task for a Talkbacker. Amirite, Merrick?
Those who have valid points by kolchak	Mar 21st, 2008 06:23:20 PM
Don't typically resort to defamation. What can we draw from this? Everyone take a collective moment to ponder...
Man Indy IV is the most hated film ever by skywalkerfamily	Mar 21st, 2008 06:23:59 PM
and it's still two months away. Oh well, better get ready for that next Apatow love fest thread that will eventually come out.
short round by El Borak	Mar 21st, 2008 06:24:28 PM
i like short round but he's silly and childish. if you love him and hate the idea of mutt you're just being bitchy.
Day Lewis stays in character even for comic-con by SpencerTrilby	Mar 21st, 2008 06:25:12 PM
and drops the act once the commentary track for the DVD is done. Shit! I confused him with Downey, Jr.
Spencer, I like Cruise as an actor by IndustryKiller!	Mar 21st, 2008 06:25:39 PM
and I didn't mean to sound like I thought he was terrible in WoW, but I think if it was someone who was less obviously capable and naturally more of an everyman, it would have been more dramatically interesting. I never believed that Cruise couldn't handle whatever situation he was in, and it's not because he's movie star Tom Cruise, he just has a confidence he can't entirely shake. That's why his best roles are guys that start witht hat confidence and then have it slowly unwound on him. Like Magnolia or Born on the Fourth of July. He's so good in both those films it's ridiculous he doesn't have at least one Oscar. Like I said the guy is a fantastic actor, unfairly vilified actually, just not quite right for that role. Another example of that would be Dicaprio in Gangs of New York.
Nice to see some Shia-hate backlash. by DocPazuzu	Mar 21st, 2008 06:28:36 PM
The only thing that really bugs me about him is his awful name, which apparently is his real one. He is no more of a "one-note" actor than Harrison Ford is - which is no criticism of Ford as I love the guy. Be honest: how many different variations of "cranky middle-aged guy" can Ford play? Aside from that and forced references to his Jewishness, most of the Shia-hate on this site seems to consist of that particular and peculiar kind of geek jealousy that's normally associated with people like Leonardo DiCaprio. Make of that what you may.
You guys are just jealous cause Sha could by skywalkerfamily	Mar 21st, 2008 06:29:22 PM
buy and sell you a million times over.
Indy Jones and the Osmond of Death. by TomBodet	Mar 21st, 2008 06:29:35 PM
Think of this, the image sears into your brain, and know TRUE FEAR.
Ford is far from one note by kolchak	Mar 21st, 2008 06:30:54 PM
Look at Witness. Then Regarding Henry. Then Jones. Then Mosquito Coast. Then What lies Beneath. Not one note. Keanu Reeves, however, completely one noted.
I see your point IndustryKiller by SpencerTrilby	Mar 21st, 2008 06:35:59 PM
I partially agree (love Magnolia, despise GoNY); I had a hard time with him on the first act of WotW, and suddenly (to paraphrase the aforementioned, loathed Cameron Crowe "movie") he had me at "Enough with the Ray shit!", that line directed toward Justin Chadwick. That was great Spielberg direction to me (I had a reminiscence of CETK at this very moment) and the movie was great to me from that moment. And as I said earlier, I loved the ending. The family part, not the invasion bullshit; I think Spielberg also has some difficulties to finish his movies recently: AI, Minority Report (AKA "Whodunit for Dummies") and WotW were quite weird in that regard, and given that I love the Last Crusade ending, I hope he'll manage to end Indy IV on a similar note.
IndustryKiller... by seniorspeilbergio	Mar 21st, 2008 06:36:39 PM
I resort to personal attacks when I'm arguing with a guy throwing out outlandish theories all day. My argument stands valid. The man is arguing that Lebouf is an arrogant punk that keeps up an act all day to throw people off. oes this sound logical. And yeah, I know what method acting is. I watched Charlize Theron do it all day on Monster for three months. She still relaxed at the end of the day and interacted with the crew. If she was a bitch, she wouldn't have been a secret for long. No offense but you came in at the tail end of the argument. The claims that method actors use there techniques to hide the fact that they're raging assholes is absurd. It takes a lot of energy to give a great performance like what I saw Lewis do in There Will Be Blood so what would motivate them to keep up this act for any other reason than for there craft? It makes no sense. Again, all I'm saying to YOU is, we don't know what this character really is yet. But I do appreciate that you think it's unbecoming of me. It is. But some people have to know when to say when.
Someone said "one note"? by SpencerTrilby	Mar 21st, 2008 06:39:35 PM
can't wait til someone adds fuel by mentionning Ellen Page or Ben Stiller. I love (well, "like" would be more fitting) both of them, they're just easy targets around here. I thought the envy-fueled geek hatred wouldn't be complete without them.
Industry by kolchak	Mar 21st, 2008 06:42:28 PM
Charlize Theron left character, so obviously Day Lewis does too. Kneel before the flawless logic.
This whole Shia-hate thing... by Mistahtibbs	Mar 21st, 2008 06:44:31 PM
...is just silly. I'm gonna go have sex with a woman. Not that half of you on these boards would know anything about that sort of thing. Buncha basement-dwelling, masturbating, pimply-faced little twats. MT
Industrykiller by skywalkerfamily	Mar 21st, 2008 06:44:55 PM
Do you like anything?
Spielberg... by seniorspeilbergio	Mar 21st, 2008 06:45:17 PM
has definatley been in a slump as of late. I thought WotW was incredibly weak. But, it seems when he does his realistic dramas, sudenlly his A game comes screaming back then he gets rejuvinated. Hopefully this will carry over into this film. It's also not the first time he's gone through a down turn. Look at the late 80's early 90's. I couldn't stand Always and Hook but he pulled out of that so I have faith.
and skywalkerfamily by SpencerTrilby	Mar 21st, 2008 06:46:37 PM
Indy IV is FAR from being the most hated movie on this site. Speed Racer anyone? From the guy(s) who brought us Reloaded and Revolutions. Starring Emile Hirsch, opens a week after Iron "This year's Little Miss Sunshine" Man, threatening his $200 million opening (Empire Online estimate, adjusted for inflation)?
Uh huh... by seniorspeilbergio	Mar 21st, 2008 06:49:25 PM
Once again, Kolchak, I have no idea what you're getting at. Yes, Lewis left character. No one can keep it up constantly. That's what I've been saying the whole time dude. Glad you agree with me.
Ah yeah, Speed Racer by skywalkerfamily	Mar 21st, 2008 06:49:32 PM
And GI Joe. But Tom Cruise is loved on this site all of a sudden.
I'm sorry skywalker?? Also speilbergio by IndustryKiller!	Mar 21st, 2008 06:54:12 PM
Skywalker, I think I just made it clear I like Both Tom Cruise AND Shia Labeouf. If I'm critical of many of today's genre films it's because they are cynical pieces of work made squarely to be money machines without an ounce of quality behind them. And the minute I stop backing up my point of view then feel free to give me shit but until then I'm gonna continue standing up for quality. And speilbergio I agree saying Labeouf is an asshole isn't right. If anything he comes off as pretty appreciative of his situation and stays out of the tabloids for the most part. In an age where some act as if fame is right that's refreshing. One minor incident at a walgreens doesn't disqualify him, I know I myself have probably been not the most savory of people to deal with after a night out having a few too many and he's publicly apologized and said how embarrassed he is and never made an excuse. Also on the subject of Spielberg I totally agree. His genre efforts have been weak but god damn if Munich wasn't one of the best films he's ever made and I've ever seen. I'm looking forward to his Chicago 10 movie and Lincoln biopic.
Senior by kolchak	Mar 21st, 2008 06:54:53 PM
You say hello to the Tin Man and Dorothy when you see them.
KOLCHAK by seniorspeilbergio	Mar 21st, 2008 07:00:21 PM
Why don't I just say hello to these stripper nuns standing in front of this greenscreen here for you? Man, they're never going to get this confessional past those stage doors.
Industry Killer by seniorspeilbergio	Mar 21st, 2008 07:07:28 PM
Yeah, I can't wait to see Liam Neeson as Lincoln. What a great choice. But the one I'm really looking forward to is Interstellar. I agree with what you said about these genre films being crap corporate machines which is why I can't wait to see Spielberg do a serious science fiction film about quantum physics and time travel. Now if Fincher could just get Rendevous With Rama made.
Cracks me up by Embeedeuce	Mar 21st, 2008 07:07:40 PM
Hey, I'm sorta new and don't post a lot, but it cracks me up when people attack with things like "go date a girl," or "you wouldn't know what sex is like." Um, you folks writing that are posting here too! I guess what I'm saying is, if you want to call the talkbackers nerds, maybe you want to put down the 12" Han Solo action figure first. (In the interest of full disclosure, I'm not a nerd and I have plenty of sex...as far as you know.) P.S. Shia sucks. ;)
I love people that write three paragraphs long shit by skywalkerfamily	Mar 21st, 2008 07:37:42 PM
on these talkbacks.
why is everyone so hard on LaBeouf? by The Amazing G	Mar 21st, 2008 07:38:00 PM
he's a likable dude
All this Shia hate comes from Jealousy. by Mr. Mcpoops	Mar 21st, 2008 07:45:57 PM
You haters are jealous that this guy is young, rich, famous, and probably has sex with a lot of beautiful women..............On second thought, Fuck Shia.
If it's more than 5 lines, I don't read it. by Mr. Mcpoops	Mar 21st, 2008 07:47:04 PM
Fuck that shit. People who type paragraphs in talkbacks should be banned.
JLG is a good actor by Mr. Mcpoops	Mar 21st, 2008 07:48:49 PM
He did well in that Bank Robbery movie where he played the slightly retarded kid. Good Stuff.
Of course I meant JGL. Let me just edit that real quickly by Mr. Mcpoops	Mar 21st, 2008 07:49:42 PM
God Damn this site.
And a Final Thought Regarding Shia: by Mr. Mcpoops	Mar 21st, 2008 07:51:05 PM
He's probably bringing his A game to this movie. I would assume that he's going to act his ass off since this is on of the biggest movies in awhile.
"Shia has played the same character in every film.." by ArcadianDS	Mar 21st, 2008 08:17:08 PM
Han Solo Indiana Jones Jack Ryan The President in AF1 Professor In that 'girl in the river' movie The security specialist in the bank heist movie So.... how come its okay for Harrison Ford to play the same exact character in every single movie he's in, and you're all okay with that - but oh no Shia can't do that because that means he sucks. You're all idiots.
Shia's only been in three movies! by skywalkerfamily	Mar 21st, 2008 08:24:16 PM
Give the kid a break. So he ruined Transformers for you. Boo Hoo. You went into that hating it anyway.
I'd just like to say... by seniorspeilbergio	Mar 21st, 2008 08:35:09 PM
the last couple posts make a lot of sense. Very refreshing.
OY VAY SHIA-- by TomBodet	Mar 21st, 2008 08:35:23 PM
-Youse Never Calls, You Never Writes---
SO NOW ALL YOU WHO ARE GAY FOR SHIA by BringingSexyBack	Mar 21st, 2008 08:38:48 PM
are bashing Harrison Ford to make a point? Let me dip into the memory bank ... nope, don't recall any instance where Ford was ANNOYING. Did you all drink some Koolaid made with pharmaceutically tainted water? Or did this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =8IXCK1EyP4s suddenly become acceptable acting? And to bash Harrison Ford to defend the Beef? No wonder we get such shit movies. Disturbia? Ford didn't do anything nearly that weak until 3 decades into his career. Maybe Shia will surprise one day with a great performance that will silence all his critics, but that hasn't happened yet.
OSAMA BIN LADEN IS HATED TOO by BringingSexyBack	Mar 21st, 2008 08:41:41 PM
Must be we're all jealous of him and his having sex with women..
Lol BSB is trying to make a point by skywalkerfamily	Mar 21st, 2008 08:42:59 PM
Let's all sit back and laugh.
SKYWALKER by BringingSexyBack	Mar 21st, 2008 08:45:00 PM
Why don't you crawl back into the Lost talkback and try to reclaim some dignity? LOL
The Lost talk back is nothing but nerds arguing by skywalkerfamily	Mar 21st, 2008 08:45:51 PM
people talking about Claire's ass, and the hick basketball games that are on.
RIGHT. by BringingSexyBack	Mar 21st, 2008 08:47:27 PM
Keep telling yourself that. LOL
Keep talking in ALL CAPS BSB by skywalkerfamily	Mar 21st, 2008 08:48:41 PM
That's what you do best
OH NOES, IT'S THE ALL CAPS ATTACK by BringingSexyBack	Mar 21st, 2008 08:50:38 PM
Try being original for a change, Skywalker. Like maybe not typing in ALL CAPS yourself. (See your posts above. Moron.)
LOOKS LIKE THE SHIA FAN CLUB by BringingSexyBack	Mar 21st, 2008 08:51:54 PM
is still an all girls club.
Lol, BSB by skywalkerfamily	Mar 21st, 2008 08:51:59 PM
You actually were funny there.
ooh skywalkerfamily by The Amazing G	Mar 21st, 2008 08:53:31 PM
I agree with ya there! (the "Shia's only been in three movies!" post)
OMG! SOMEONE AGREED WITH ME by skywalkerfamily	Mar 21st, 2008 09:11:17 PM
Dies.
Moriarty is correct by Scrolly	Mar 21st, 2008 10:35:16 PM
Most of you guys are just pathetic life hating assholes. This TB is more proof of that.
Shia= by slave to the one	Mar 22nd, 2008 12:43:49 AM
Flames on Optimus
MERRICK DO YOU TRY TO BE SUCH A FUCKING RETARD? by Proman1984	Mar 22nd, 2008 01:01:24 AM
Or does it come naturally to you. I fucking despite you, you shitthroat cuntrug? You know what's really akward and totally fits in your pants. Your dick.
SKYWALKERCUNT NOBODY AGREES WITH YOU by suit and tie	Mar 22nd, 2008 02:47:17 AM
YOU'RE LIKE HERPES. CUNT
Suit and tie by skywalkerfamily	Mar 22nd, 2008 02:48:24 AM
Are you 14 years old, or trying to be some dumb ass hip hop artist. Try to complete a sentence for one in your life.
Iron Man, Iron Man, Does Whatever An Iron Can by LaserPants	Mar 22nd, 2008 03:07:59 AM
I love Iron Man, but I love Speed Racer way more. I'm more excited about Speed Racer, but I'm excited about both. ya feel me? I need to get to sleep. Too many mood altering substances. Gak!
I don't dislike Shia as an actor by Kovac	Mar 22nd, 2008 03:12:05 AM
I just dislike him as a person, and that rolls over into a dislike of seeing him in movies. I'm not even sure what it is about him - I think it is a bunch of small things which really grate on me. However in the case of this I think the overwhelming awesomeness will distract from even that guy.
FUCK HIM!! by Han Cholo	Mar 22nd, 2008 03:45:57 AM
It's that simple.
"OSAMA BIN LADEN IS HATED TOO" by DocPazuzu	Mar 22nd, 2008 05:19:39 AM
Wow, a new variation of Godwin's Law. Hilarious. What BSB is conveniently choosing to ignore is the very annoying and almost unwatchable performance Ford gave us in ROTJ. If it's early he wants, look no further than Ford's gay henchman in The Conversation. Like I said earlier, I love Ford, so I don't have a problem with an actor who basically plays the same guy in 80% of his films as long as he does it believably. What's at the heart of the matter is that BSB has used Shia hate as the basis for a plague of countless unfunny title spammer posts, which is why a backlash is hitting him harder than most other talkbackers. I can appreciate this as it now means that his prestige is on the line and he has to defend himself by hating even more. What's that phrase the interweb kids are using these days for sad behavior like that? Oh yeah... Epic fail.
Dark Horizons says Iain McDiarmid is in this movie by BenBraddock	Mar 22nd, 2008 05:28:59 AM
"Meanwhile the site also lists "Star Wars" actor Ian McDiarmid as playing the role of Professor Levi in the new film. This is surprising as McDiarmid played the role of Professor Levi, a friend of Indy's father living in Paris, in a 1993 episode of "The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles" in which Indy has a torrid affair with Mata Hari. As the action of this film is set in 1957, forty-one years after the events of that episode, McDiarmid would have to play the character as in his late eighties (that is unless a flashback element is a part of the action)." Sounds to me more like he maybe was the victim of an alien abduction, a la CE3K, along with Professor Ravenwood.
The movie will be rollicking fun, and Shia won't ruin it. by Doctor Zoidberg	Mar 22nd, 2008 06:23:41 AM
Everybody needs to take a few deep breaths and keep their hands from shaking. Maybe even take a little walk outside and enjoy the spring weather?
Lets focus on the fact the trailer fucking sucked. by The Gospel According to Bastardface	Mar 22nd, 2008 08:12:27 AM
The cartoony CGI, the pretentious lead-in, the glib self-knowing overwritten one-liner "damn," the awkward rhythm and what you got is a movie I am not expecting to be half as good as the originals.
PLANT!!!!! by alucardvsdracula	Mar 22nd, 2008 08:27:23 AM
PLANTY, PLANTY, PLANTY PLANT. It's obvious. Oh and Krull will own your ass.
I don't get why people hate this guy by messi	Mar 22nd, 2008 08:40:28 AM
he's in 3 big movies, no one in real life gives a fuck, but because you spend your lives on this site and in movies you think he's invading your life. failed.
Shia-Haters = Closet Self-Hating Homosexuals by Mr. Nice Gaius	Mar 22nd, 2008 09:03:37 AM
FACT. He's making movies. You're not. Get over it people.
DOCPAZUZU THE PSYCHOANALYST by BringingSexyBack	Mar 22nd, 2008 09:45:36 AM
Yeah, I really poured a lot of vitriol on Shia in this TB. All of 2 posts. Shut the fuck up until you have a point to make. People don't like Shia, you're gay for him. C'est la vie.
MESSI by BringingSexyBack	Mar 22nd, 2008 09:49:37 AM
I wouldn't be throwing stones if I were you, Corps War Superstar. People are free to express their dislike for a guy who's annoying. Doesn't make them closeted, either, MNG - that's a piss poor defense.
Even Shia dont know why he is the "it" guy by theycallmemrglass	Mar 22nd, 2008 10:08:05 AM
There are movie stars who are very humble but nevertheless know they are movie stars for a reason. Shia is also very humble but the difference is he is sincere because he knows he aint a fucking movie star and doesnt know how da fuck did he get starring roles in a 2 of Spielberg's biggest movies of the last couple years. You can tell from the first video that introduce Marion to the audience. he was like "I dont know what I'm doing here with Harrison, Steven.." then Spielberg in shock tells him "we invested a lot in you..." then they cut his last few words "...you, prick, shot da fuck up"
Having said that by theycallmemrglass	Mar 22nd, 2008 10:11:08 AM
I have nothing against Shia. Ha ha. And I wish him well, and hope he will be fun to watch...I hope
I thought Shia was good in Guide to Recognizing Your Saints... by SK229	Mar 22nd, 2008 10:34:53 AM
but all I keep hearing about is Disturbia, I, Robot, and Transformers. Three movies that I can hardly believe him being in them caused whatever suckiness appeared on the screen. The kid can definitely act, the scenes between him and Chaz Palmienteri in Saints were all pretty amazing. I also thought he was particularly good and 'real' in the scenes revolving around the death of Channing Tatum's character's brother. There's a part where he's telling him, "What are you talking about, your brother is dead, that's your brother up there..." that's one of the most real and affecting moments I've seen outside of a Scorsese movie. In my opinion, saying he can't act and then mentioning nothing but the hollywood shit he's been in is the same as someone coming along and claiming Deniro can't act cause they've only ever seen Meet the Fockers, Rocky and Bullwinkle, and Stardust.
you people are by joel007	Mar 22nd, 2008 11:20:53 AM
the biggest fucking collection of morons I have ever seen. Read this shit. Holy christ you people are pathetic.
I love the idiots who pretend to dislike Shia by slone13	Mar 22nd, 2008 11:31:51 AM
They amuse me with their feigned hatred.
Yeah Yeah...but I still got to say here by LP421	Mar 22nd, 2008 11:33:30 AM
Please GOD don't cast Shia as Yorick. He's smarmy, insincere and doesn't have an honest bone in his body.
All I want for Easter is a shout out from Merrick!! by thebearovingian	Mar 22nd, 2008 11:49:12 AM
No Easter eggs, no chocolate bunnies, no marshmallow chicks, no fake grass, no baskets!
i don't know by El Borak	Mar 22nd, 2008 12:27:10 PM
why anyone cares about "method" acting. that is the biggest pile of bullshit ever created. a good actor doesn't need to "transform" into someone else, continue to act like them off set and say it's great acting. you just act when they say acton.
LP421 by kolchak	Mar 22nd, 2008 12:27:30 PM
You're dead on. Looks like shia has sucked a lot of dicks around here, but it's time we put down the koolaid, people.
SHIA HATERS LIKE COCK by suit and tie	Mar 22nd, 2008 01:19:08 PM
THAT'S RIGHT YOU ARE ALL COCK GOBBELERS AND WANT SHIA TO RIP OPEN YOUR ASSES FRUIT CAKES. THERE'S A GAY PRIDE PARADE SOMEWHERE IN THE WORLD THIS WEEKEND. GO FLY THE COLORS FAGGOTS WHILE AT THE PARADE JUST THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH COCK YOU CAN SUCK WHILE THERE. MERRY EASTER QUEERS!
dicaprio looks like pheonix-beef like young Lucas by General Crom	Mar 22nd, 2008 01:53:55 PM
should have cast him as ford's son-instead of the brown eyed fro child of blue eyed parents. Beef is young Lucas
Once again, BSB... by DocPazuzu	Mar 22nd, 2008 02:00:22 PM
...you feign ignorance to make a cheap point. In this case you're pretending that I claimed you used this particular talkback for Shia-hate-based title spamming. I never said any such thing and am, naturally, referring to countless other talkbacks where you've both title spammed and used Shia-hate with "hilarious" results. If you're going to defend your indefensible behavior, then at least try to do it with some measure of skill and verve rather than use flash-bang to draw attention away from it. Ass.
There are no movies worth seeing until May by Bobo_Vision	Mar 22nd, 2008 02:40:37 PM
And then once May hits, I'll have trouble keeping up with all the movies I want to see. Kind of depressing.
Eh, all these movies will be on DVD in Oct by skywalkerfamily	Mar 22nd, 2008 03:43:27 PM
Before the Christmas hype.
More Beef! by General Crom	Mar 22nd, 2008 04:16:48 PM
We're talking about a franchise that had a 5 year old Kung fu kicking adults to shattering effect-On earth that would be a scene of an adult grabbing the kid's leg-then cut to the last scene from the thanksgiving day trailer.So I guess we can live with more beef.
Why does skywalker always refer to "hick basketball games" by leobloom	Mar 22nd, 2008 04:47:48 PM
Since when did basketball become Nascar?
? by dudemandude	Mar 22nd, 2008 05:35:07 PM
trust in Lucas to deliver. he has never let us down, there's nothing to suggest he'll start now. jake loyd was a brilliant casting decision. hayden christensen? perfect. jar jar touched all our hearts.. believe in lucas.. believe in beef.
DOCPAZUZU by BringingSexyBack	Mar 22nd, 2008 05:51:09 PM
You're under the mistaken impression that I want to enter into a conversation with you. I do not. In fact, I stopped reading at "..." because I fell asleep. Thank you, because it was a nice nap.
BSB by DocPazuzu	Mar 22nd, 2008 05:57:57 PM
Feel free to ignore me. I'm still going to flay you for title spamming whenever I see it.
PITIFUL by BringingSexyBack	Mar 22nd, 2008 06:01:36 PM
You are the essense of buzzkill. "Flay" me? Have fun trying.
I'M ABOUT TO SPAM THE TERMINATOR TB by BringingSexyBack	Mar 22nd, 2008 06:02:34 PM
Come along, puppy.
NEEDS GIANT ROBOTS by TomBodet	Mar 22nd, 2008 06:03:21 PM
among other beasties. We KNOW Indy can take'em, all.
So much for not reading my posts. by DocPazuzu	Mar 22nd, 2008 06:05:19 PM

HAVING FUN NOW PUPPY? by BringingSexyBack	Mar 22nd, 2008 06:13:46 PM
Loser!
Finally a gay teen star. by Smashing	Mar 22nd, 2008 06:22:43 PM
Go Shia, shame he is such a cock in real life eh.
BSB by Mr. Nice Gaius	Mar 22nd, 2008 11:41:00 PM
Quote: "Doesn't make them closeted, either, MNG - that's a piss poor defense." Yeah, ya think? It's certainly no more flippant than half the lame ass shit I see on this thread. In any case, the point remains the same = you say that Shia annoys you. I say...Get Over It.
Beaouf ! Beaouf ! by stamper	Mar 23rd, 2008 01:43:30 AM
"I always was an INDY fan, I had the posters at home, my brother used to watch the movies over and over on Betamax (yeah, we choose the losing format), once I got past a theater and saw an Indiana Jones poster on the wall. I was 8. This is enough credit for me to genuinely star in this new volet of the adventures, you couldn't find a bigger actor fan out there, I mean, who's experience with Indy in his youth was passing the poster by ?" Beaouf ! Beaouf !
Shia plays the same stuttering.. by poeticwarriorII	Mar 23rd, 2008 02:11:29 AM
out of place little cunt in every movie he's ever fucking been in. He's a one note talentless bitch so utterly miscast for this role it boggles the mind what the fuck exactly Spielberg was thinking. He is out of touch with his target audience because he's too old, too tired and too goddamn blind to make these kinds of movies anymore. He looks about as much like a 50's greaser as DJ Qualls would in this role. I won't be surprised if this flops around like limp soft donkey dick.
"Stop making these off the wall accusations" by TerryMalloy	Mar 23rd, 2008 03:08:03 AM
I admire the effort gotha,, but you're pissing into the wind.
Also no basis that he is right for the role by mrfan	Mar 23rd, 2008 10:09:53 AM
I love to hear how people can defend this guy. He plays the same type of character in every movie. Believe me I have no problem with that. I know what to expect of if I go to a movie with him in it. I am not bashing the guy. I wish him well with his career. But face it. He really plays the same character in every movie he has been in. It will also happen with the new Indiana Jones movie. Sorry die hard Shia fans. Nothing new or magically will come of his performance. It will be same guy who does the same thing movie after movie. I expect nothing more.
MNG by BringingSexyBack	Mar 23rd, 2008 11:45:16 AM
What is your fascination with Le Beefboy?
BSB by Mr. Nice Gaius	Mar 23rd, 2008 12:05:15 PM
There is no fascination. Sure, he's an excitable boy. But he's also got chops. So, I don't really understand the overwhelming hate that's poured over him by a few folks on this site. (Surely there's got to be a more deserving, genuinely no-talent hack worth ganging up on?!) It seems like misplaced insecurity or something. I'd say the "fascination" exists on the other side, so to speak. BTW - nice emulation of glovedone/Braffed's style over in the other TB. Classy.
MNG by BringingSexyBack	Mar 23rd, 2008 12:12:48 PM
No, he don't got chops. But if you like him, more power to you.
MNG by mrfan	Mar 23rd, 2008 12:47:34 PM
I am very curious as to what "chops" are you refering about. I have no hate for the guy. I just don't see anything exciting about his performances. He seems to be a one dimensional actor. Same thing for each role. Yes, he is young and possibly has time to get those "chops." Still I am curious as to what role(s) he has demonstrated his great versatility. Not calling him names. Just trying to ask questions.
mrfan by Mr. Nice Gaius	Mar 23rd, 2008 01:08:28 PM
Honestly, I haven't seen enough of his movies to know all the roles he has played so far. But from what I have seen, it's certainly no better/worse than a dozen other up-and-coming actors working these days. I just think the guy has been singled out because he's been in (or going to be in) some big franchise-style films. And for whatever reason, it's drawn the ire of AICN's geekdom. (I seem to recall DiCaprio going through a very similar phase.) But I agree; he's young and he's got potential. It all comes down to the roles he chooses to play in the future. Time will tell whether his talent has a broader range. That being said, he's no Daniel Day Lewis. Not today. Cheers.
MNG by mrfan	Mar 23rd, 2008 01:30:24 PM
Thanks for the post. You made a very good comment about DiCaprio. That was very true. The potential is there for Shia. It will be interesting to see roles he will invest in for future performances. Like I said before I don't hate the guy. I just don't care for much of his acting. That could change with one movie. Who knows. Indiana Jones might be it. I will take the wait and see approach. Take care.
MNG by BringingSexyBack	Mar 23rd, 2008 02:22:23 PM
If anyone ever needed to do a term paper on Shia LeBarf, they could put your posts to good use. Nice job.
Somehow, I doubt that. by Mr. Nice Gaius	Mar 23rd, 2008 03:05:09 PM
But it's noted.
I WAS BEING SARCASTIC YOU TOOL by BringingSexyBack	Mar 23rd, 2008 09:16:52 PM
You've been playing with Pazuzu too long.
"I WAS BEING SARCASTIC..." by Mr. Nice Gaius	Mar 23rd, 2008 11:19:38 PM
Yeah, I know. So was I. Quit jumping out of your asshole bag on every silly post.
Stuttering Sarcasm by EjkoUSC	Mar 23rd, 2008 11:38:42 PM
True Shia is seemingly incapable of playing any part in any way other than with stuttering sarcasm, but he's good at it. I'm sure he'll do the same in this movie but I'm fine with it. Justin Long did the same crap in Live Free Or Die Hard and it worked fine I suppose. Shia will be fine. He at least seems to understand the Indy franchise (rather than Long who hadn't even seen a Die Hard prior to being cast). And for better or worse I know a lot of girls who are excited to see the movie cause Shia is in it.
MNG by BringingSexyBack	Mar 24th, 2008 09:15:36 AM
Despite Pazuzu's breaking of our unspoken unagreement of not talking to each other, how about we get back to that and you stay the hell away from me and not infect me with your utter lameness? You and Pazuzu are fucking downers, I need to pop a Prozac everytime you fuckers post your tiresome lame bullshit. Go lecture on Shia to someone who cares. Which would mean Pazuzu. HAHA fucker!
BSB by Mr. Nice Gaius	Mar 24th, 2008 10:52:59 AM
Wow. I don't know what kind of fantasy you've conjured up in your head but you are truly delusional. Are you trying to lick my balls?! Or, do you just want to make out a little? I think I've given you more fair play than you realize. Yet, you seem incapable of not attempting to jump my ass whenever you and I "speak". So, how about you quit projecting YOUR tiresome bullshit and yank your head out of your ass. Hope you had a happy Easter, fuckface!
PREDICTIONS: Bucky becomes Cap by brunosanmartino	Mar 24th, 2008 11:01:38 AM
This may have been said already, but, the name Mutt Williams is so bad that, if there's any desire to spawn a new franchise, Shia must adopt the Indy moniker after Harrison hangs up the whip. There won't be no "Mutt Williams and The Invaders of the Bay of Pigs"
That Said... by brunosanmartino	Mar 24th, 2008 11:02:46 AM
I'm not keen on Shia either but I would like to see the old pulp serial formula applied to more recent history.
Indiana Jones and the Thank god its Not About Atlantis by EjkoUSC	Mar 24th, 2008 09:47:05 PM
I will say this for George, he always pulls out something completely off the fanboy radar. Be it plots or titles, he avoided the whole stupid Noah's Ark, Atlantis to-and-fro that gummed up the internet for the past ten years. Aliens? I'm down.
Right, BSB... by DocPazuzu	Mar 25th, 2008 06:56:06 AM
...you WISH we had such an unspoken agreement. The fact is I will call you on your insufferable horseshit whenever I see it. Don't flatter yourself into thinking you're a match for me or MNG on any level. Run back to your new idiot thread-killing friends in the Terminator TB where you belong.

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