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Serenity by omarthesnake	Mar 19th, 2008 08:09:40 AM
was quite good, with the 'voices' just right. but what the flaming hell are you on about about the cover? It's a fine cover, Optimous. Sheesh, if you're going to go questing for SOMEthing to gripe about, how about the less-than-futuristic truck design on an inner world where things should be spiffier?
technically, greyspecter... by omarthesnake	Mar 19th, 2008 08:10:41 AM
you are first, but since you didn't comment on anything or show any evidence of having read the column, does it matter?
Dammit in a Nova review... by rock-me Amodeo	Mar 19th, 2008 08:11:01 AM
...should really be replaced by "Blue Blazes." I think thats protocol.
Blue Blazes! by rock-me Amodeo	Mar 19th, 2008 08:15:04 AM
...but I'm checking the manual just to be sure, dammit. :
"Set somewhere after ... the movie Serenity" by newc0253	Mar 19th, 2008 08:15:35 AM
uh, it's clearly set before the movie Serenity (Walsh is clearly alive). Indeed, it appears to be set before the last Serenity comics(c.f. Book and Inara are still on board). Otherwise, good review. BETTER DAYS #1 is a solid start.
I liked the Howard the Duck comics better by donwillymo	Mar 19th, 2008 08:16:30 AM

Fox Spiderman by scorpio2049	Mar 19th, 2008 08:20:17 AM
I still think the Fox Spiderman TAS was the best. I wish they would release the whole thing on DVD.
good catch newco by optimous_douche	Mar 19th, 2008 08:27:26 AM
I needed a "before" on Serenity. Good catch. I suck.
Who has wonder woman fucked? wats the track record? by donwillymo	Mar 19th, 2008 08:32:21 AM

Jinxo - you missed out the best Spidey animated series of all! by alfiemoon	Mar 19th, 2008 08:52:54 AM
The 1990s series from FOX was great, and probably one of the most faithful comic-to-cartoon adaptations I've seen.
by RaveX	Mar 19th, 2008 09:16:59 AM

damn enter... by RaveX	Mar 19th, 2008 09:19:20 AM
just wanted to say that tbolts and initiative are excellent as much as they are brutal. and, oh yes, they ARE brutal...
Man, that image loses a lot at that compression. by Squashua	Mar 19th, 2008 09:19:41 AM
I'd link to the original but I can't access e-mail till 7PM EST.
compression... by rock-me Amodeo	Mar 19th, 2008 09:28:21 AM
It's shrinkage!
Should've coaxed Buzz out to review Defenders by rev_skarekroe	Mar 19th, 2008 09:39:54 AM
He'd have probably done it for a comp copy and maybe a sandwich.
Serenity by Xenite_one	Mar 19th, 2008 09:44:40 AM
I can't wait for Better Days. I just read Those Left Behind again and again in anticipation. Whedon really does have that knack for storytelling that transcends all mediums. I just need Book, Wash, and Inara all to be on Serenity, and we'll be good.
Serenity Cover by optimous_douche	Mar 19th, 2008 09:50:18 AM
Originally my review was about 1000 words, but you know what, we write these reviews so the Talkback folks will enjoy them, so I scaled back my rant trying to be cognoscente of past feedback My problem is less with the actual art and more specifically with the characterization, specifically Captain Reynolds. The grin on the man’s face look like it stems from blunt head trauma or a learning disability. Reynolds is the type of guy you would walk up to in a bar. He is a man hardened by a lifetime of combat. He is a man of grand gestures and extremes. He is not a man that would ever pose like a fucking Sears underwear model with a dopey shit eating grin on his face, no matter how much money he fell into. Even the main artist agrees, when they open the case at the end, does he give a grin? No. He’s already thinking ahead to the repercussions of this gross amount of mad duckets they now have. The art was good, although the photo-realism of the faces immediately made my mind think of the stacks and stacks of books that sat under my parent’s coffee table with Fabio’s face plastered across them.
ONE OF THESE PEOPLE WILL DIE! by teddanson37	Mar 19th, 2008 10:12:46 AM
i want to see that cliche cover done with panels of Jean Grey, Vision, Capt, Ben Parker, Goliath, Banshee, Gwen Stacy, and then Deadpool in the bottom right saying "oh, sh!#!"
Serenity by Refuge5	Mar 19th, 2008 10:14:36 AM
Better Days was PERFECT!!!! I felt like we should cut to commercial at the end of the last page...
I LOVED the art in the new Spidey 'toon... by superhero	Mar 19th, 2008 10:27:59 AM
Cheeks is the bomb...http://gotcheeks.blogsp ot.com/ and he's a very nice guy as well. Met him at Wizard World LA a couple of years ago. Great artist.
Dead Space? by Jack Colby	Mar 19th, 2008 10:30:00 AM
Surely it's not based on that awful old "Alien" ripoff movie starring Marc Singer? Is it?
What the hey? by greyspecter	Mar 19th, 2008 10:39:42 AM
Where'd my first post go? ps, i did read some of the stuff. I think we need to either take WW out back and end the misery or else just take a year off and let us miss her for a while.
The new Spidey WB series... by wowsah156	Mar 19th, 2008 11:00:10 AM
Just after eeing all three episodes,. If the writing continues in its presnt vein then we might have the best animated comic book adaptation since the Batman series in the late 90's. I love how they build upon the continuity ( are you listening chief editor Joe?) and making Peter/spidey struggle with their problems. One question though , why cant the animators get a proper feel for Spideys body language and movement. If computer gmes programmers can do it, then why not the animation house?
Re: Spider-man cartoon-Don't listen to Jinxo!! by Psynapse	Mar 19th, 2008 11:03:08 AM
UNLESS you happen to have a SERIOUS love of Spider-Man period. I am an animation afficionado and I check out EVERY new animated show that premieres in the US. Unless you've got some serious love of Spidey rattlin' around (I don't, he's all right but Superman will always be cooler in my book. Hell Cyclops of the X-Men is cooler in my book) this show will suck the life out of you for every SECOND you watch it. As Jinxo said the theme song is downright fucking AWFUL and honestly, the stories and dialogue aren't much better ( I actually forced my self to watch the first 3 eps in one sitting to make sure it was as bad as it first seemed. It was.) The animation style is a weird mutant love child of anime and cartoon stylings that gives NOTHING new (or even interesting) to the concept of character design. The non-Spidey portions of the episodes literally reek of a ham-handed attempt for the target audience to relate (Hey kids! Pete's JUST like you 'cept for the whole cool superpowers-n-bad-guys-to-figh t stuff!!)to the main character. Don't get me started on the strangely inconsistent frame rates throughout either. All in all it's piss poor attempt to suck yet more advertising revenue out Marvel' 2nd moste over-exposed character (Wolverine taking the top spot for YEARS now) that does NOTHING but add yet another lame-ass and clunky 're-interpretation' of the Spider-Man mythos. Grade F for fucked.
Walsh...who the fuck is Walsh? by Reel American Hero	Mar 19th, 2008 11:26:27 AM
It's Wash. Or...was Wash anyway till towards the end of the movie at least.
Dont Listen to Jinxo OR Psynapse! by rock-me Amodeo	Mar 19th, 2008 11:52:45 AM
Because here comes THE opinion that you REALLY MUST LISTEN TO! Or maybe, just maybe, people are generally smart enough to listen to everyone's opinion and then form one for themselves.
darn it... by rock-me Amodeo	Mar 19th, 2008 11:55:35 AM
I had "crickets chirping" in between the first and last sentence of that DONT LISTEN post, but I must have put them in "less than/greater than" symbols, so they got eaten. Well, IMAGINE crickets chirping in that pause.
Didn't mention the Gargoyle cameos by ballyhoo	Mar 19th, 2008 12:13:54 PM
Greg Weisman, the genius behind the Gargoyles show and current comic book, threw in some cameos and nods. Jinxo missed this. Geek status: falling.
Psynapse by ballyhoo	Mar 19th, 2008 12:20:29 PM
"The non-Spidey portions of the episodes literally reek of a ham-handed attempt for the target audience to relate (Hey kids! Pete's JUST like you 'cept for the whole cool superpowers-n-bad-guys-to-figh t stuff!!)to the main character."............ What the fuck do you think Peter has always been? That's what alter egos are for, to relate to the common reader.
Yo Rock-Me!! by Psynapse	Mar 19th, 2008 12:30:49 PM
Use asterisks like this: crickets chirp mwah baby!
Yo ballyhoo! (Your turn son) by Psynapse	Mar 19th, 2008 12:47:54 PM
Ok since you've decided to take the snarky tack, I'll return the favor: Maybe you ought to take a remedial english course so you can comprehend the words "literally reek of a ham-handed attempt" and what they actually mean in relation to the sentence structure as a whole. I wasn't saying JACK SHIT about alter egos and their part in superheroic stories dumbass, I was criticizing THIS SHOW'S piss-poor usage of said plot device. Next time try actually comprehending what someone is sayiing before you decide to 'school' them, buttmunch. Yeah, I've sunk to name calling. Get over it ya pansy ass, this is what happens when you fuck with someone running on 3 hours of sleep from having to deal with Methed out neighbors and the cops, 'kay? 'kay.
I liked the Defenders by Trik_Ster	Mar 19th, 2008 01:05:46 PM
pre Gargoyle By the time he came along, things were going down hill bad.
Now we're getting somewhere, Psynapse by ballyhoo	Mar 19th, 2008 01:27:49 PM
You named three specific things that you didn't like about the new show. 1 - The art. 2 - The non-Spidey portions. 3 - Framerates. And you didn't go into any detail about WHY the non-Spidey portions were bad. Therefore, it's implied that the mere existence of these is what you didn't like. This has nothing to do with my reading comprehension. It has everything to do with your writing skills. They need improvement. Here's a tip, a television show can't "literally reek."
thanks Psy by rock-me Amodeo	Mar 19th, 2008 01:29:39 PM
Yer a prince among men!
TV shows can literally reek... by SleazyG.	Mar 19th, 2008 01:36:01 PM
...if they're filmed in Smell-O-Vision. Which is the TV version o of the movies' Smell-O-Rama. And which is an actual real thing, having been used at least a few times in the past (didn't "The Simpsons" do a scratch-n-sniff card for a episode a year or two ago?). Just sayin'.
Yes, it's Wash not Walsh by newc0253	Mar 19th, 2008 01:40:35 PM
my turn to apologise, truly my insertion of the letter 'l' means that i suck. hard.
Nice try son.... by Psynapse	Mar 19th, 2008 01:50:21 PM
Apparently you need some vocabulary work as well because it's quite apparent that the 'euphemism' isn't part of YOURS. Also, you 2nd post directed to me only reinforces my point about you needing some actual reading comprehension skills because the very sentence where I address the non-spidey portions is also where I say exactly what annoys me about them. Now that I think about it, what grade are you in again? 5th? 6th?
Look up "euphemism" by ballyhoo	Mar 19th, 2008 01:57:54 PM
And then get some sleep. I think you really need it.
Ballyhoo: Not just rude, but ignorant too! by Psynapse	Mar 19th, 2008 02:02:45 PM
Eeuphemism. N. 1. the substitution of a mild, indirect, or vague expression for one thought to be offensive, harsh, or blunt. In this instance, the euphemism "literally reeked" was substituted in place of "Sucked shit-covered donkey balls" if you will. Open an actual dictionary sometime dipshit.
And now for something completely tasteless... by Psynapse	Mar 19th, 2008 02:04:10 PM
Two Reasons Why It's So Hard To Solve A Redneck Murder 1. All the DNA is the same. 2. There are no dental records.
PS-All typos be damned.... by Psynapse	Mar 19th, 2008 02:06:01 PM
I'm tired so suck it. (but I'm apparently more alert than Sir Ballyhoo here who seems to think he comprehends his native (is it?) language which I doubt sincerely)
Spidey by Jinxo	Mar 19th, 2008 02:57:03 PM
D'oh! There were cameos? Sadly I am lacking in Gargoyle geek knowledge. And crossover stuff is supposed to be my thing. the shame, the shame... But what is with the bashing? I mean, I didn't come out and throw love alll over the show. I was osrt of middle of the road. I DO like the writing. Again, compared to the Spidey I grew up with they are putting an impressive amount of advanced thought into what they're doing. But it isn't Batman The Animated Series by any stretch. The art isn't a crime butI'm not sure the style is a match for the material and that's a problem. And actually glad you brought up weird video. Something I forgot about that WAS incredibly strange. The second episode in? I swear they accidentally gave the video an animorphic format. Everything was just stretched and thin. I adjusted my TV to stretch it to wide screen andsuddenly it looked perfect. I thought maybe it was just a quirk of the animation, like maybe it actually could look okay either way. But then I tried it with other episodes and, nope, just that one episode hit the air screwy. Very odd.
MAX Punisher by Autodidact	Mar 19th, 2008 03:17:16 PM
One of the greatest comics series of all time if you ask me. Especially if consistency is important to you. I love Garth Ennis with his balls to the wall depravity and ability to write the same book for many years.
Just got a sandy vajayjay today, Jinx by Psynapse	Mar 19th, 2008 03:24:45 PM
I mean, (FOR ME) the show was flatter than it's color pallette (and what was up with that anyway? so many technical aspects of the show just seemed so half-assed y'know?). I think the spirit of my frustration is fueled by how much I WAS looking forward to the show (Like many I LOVED the 90's Fox Kids show and loathed everything they'd done since ESPECIALLY that MTV atrocity) and was severely let down by what I watched in those 3 episodes. And like I said, Spider-man is somewhere in the mid-range for coolness so unless either the story (to cite the 90's show for example) OR the animation (which, let's face it has pretty much sucked for damn near every american super-hero show) draws me in, then it's a major 'meh' for me. (well, and I may be channeling some rage at the 'mis-fired for much of season 1 and cancelled with season 2' mess that is the LoSH 'toon)
Wait wait wait.... by Psynapse	Mar 19th, 2008 04:57:23 PM
The animation on pretty much ALL of the DC shows HASN'T sucked. Should've clarified THAT comment better.
as a man... by blackthought	Mar 19th, 2008 04:58:55 PM
with a degree in animation who has actually animated before both in 2D, 3D and mixed medias...i can safely say that this new spidey cartoon is not on its way to surpassing the joys of the justice league or btas...that is just daft thinking.
Ballyhoo by hst666	Mar 19th, 2008 05:05:05 PM
In making your point, I believe you overstated it. Alter-egos are not there for us to identify with generally, although Parker probably was. I mean how many comic book readers are independently wealthy, heads of corporations, metropolitan reporters, doctors, lawyers, etc.
Somewhere... by Jinxo	Mar 19th, 2008 08:34:13 PM
... Donald Trump is reading that last post with a little tear running down his cheek, feeling all excluded.
Spiderman is beginning to win me over. by rbatty024	Mar 20th, 2008 06:37:56 AM
It took me a few episodes, but I'm warming up to it. The back to basics approach works for me.
Can Trump cry? by Psynapse	Mar 20th, 2008 09:01:19 AM
Watching him on TV I could swear every bit of juice inside dried up years ago.
Trump Can't Cry by optimous_douche	Mar 20th, 2008 09:41:47 AM
To cry, one needs to be able to process an emotion other than irate. Trump can not cry.
Touche Douche! by Psynapse	Mar 20th, 2008 10:36:07 AM
(Pronounced in this instance: too-shay doo-shay) I think my life may now be complete as I never thought I'd have the opportunity to utter such a phrase.
Spectacular Spidey by Calico Pete	Mar 21st, 2008 01:57:44 AM
Saw the 1st 2 eps, decided it was too kiddy. Read the comments here. Decided to give it another shot. I must saw, ep 3 was very very cool. Great fight scenes. Smart character development. Anyone else feel the opening titles are a throwback to the old 60s show, a retro homage? And am I the only one who thinks Aunt May is sorta hot? I hope we see her in swimwear soon.
meant to say "I must SAY" not "I must SAW" by Calico Pete	Mar 21st, 2008 01:59:24 AM
Not that that really required clarification, but some of you may have scored too low on your SATs to figure it out from context alone. I keed I keed.
Bug, To Me THE DEFENDERS Are... by Buzz Maverik	Mar 21st, 2008 06:39:21 PM
...any combination of Dr. Stange, Namor, the Hulk and/or the Silver Surfer with whichever Marvel Universe characters happen to be around at the time to get the immediate job done, then it's adios mama.

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