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RETURN OF JEZEBEL JAMES!! The New Show From Amy Sherman-Palladino, Creator Of GILMORE GIRLS, Hit Fox Friday!!

THANKS HERC! by Steve Trevor	Mar 14th, 2008 08:03:43 PM
Big Palladino fan. Pilot was OK but it does have some potential. I hope the show lasts but what a horrid timeslot.
Ms. Posey by haggardatbest	Mar 14th, 2008 08:04:20 PM
Parker Posey is as sexy today as she was in Party Girl. I'll watch this and try to ignore the laugh track.
I wanted to like it, really. by infallible	Mar 14th, 2008 08:16:05 PM
Having now seen the first two episodes tonight, I'm disappointed to say that this just didn't work. Like Herc, I love Amy, Lauren, and Parker, and wanted so much for this to be good. Maybe if it were to go longer, it would have worked, but it has a lot going against it: Herc likes it, it's on Fox, and it has potential. That's the "sure to be canceled" hat trick.
Amy Sherman-Palladino is anti-talented by Captain Justice	Mar 14th, 2008 08:18:56 PM
She should be fined heavily for subjecting the world to The Gilmore Girls.
Hey! Captain Justice! by Hercules	Mar 14th, 2008 08:29:41 PM
Go fuck yourself!
THE JEZEBEL SLUTS!!! by skywalkerfamily	Mar 14th, 2008 08:32:27 PM
Anothe Women hate men show, eh. Sluts.
Never did get Poser Attraction by LokiOdin	Mar 14th, 2008 08:45:44 PM
..though Ambrose is another thing. Still don't know about that beach movie thing of old. Anyway, its impressive how Gillmore's reparte (sic) holds up on the afternoon reruns on th e Family CHannel. I'm sick of the Cop reruns on G4 -- but I digress
Captain Stupidity is more like it... by Pennsy	Mar 14th, 2008 09:02:44 PM

Amy-Sherman Palladino screwed over her own show by XeRocks81	Mar 14th, 2008 09:09:16 PM
I was a big fan of Gilmore Girls all the way through, but I still feel very bitter about the way she left the show. The people left in charge had to play out the Christopher/Lorelai thing and the show only got better once they managed to get rid of it.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ by TomBodet	Mar 14th, 2008 09:10:00 PM
ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz
wow, thanks by Don Lockwood	Mar 14th, 2008 09:13:28 PM
I know that hour and two minutes before the show actually airs really gave me the heads-up! What the fuck? You didn't know this was going to be on yesterday?
It's like a female Odd Couple. by skywalkerfamily	Mar 14th, 2008 09:25:00 PM

Oh come on. by gotilk	Mar 14th, 2008 09:25:29 PM
It wasn't that bad. Pretty damned funny in places which is more than I can say for half of what passes as comedy on TV. Deserves a better shot.
"THE WIRE" KILLER by Ashok0	Mar 14th, 2008 09:26:51 PM
Just watched the pilot. Geez... ladies in gentlemen, I think this is the next "The Wire".
I though Laurely was soo freakin hot by Stormwatcher	Mar 14th, 2008 09:28:03 PM
However you spell her name. She was smoking. Its the one women on TV I admitted to my wife I was hot for. It didn't make her stop watching though.
The chick in the Islanders jersey is HOT!!! by SkidMarkedUndies	Mar 14th, 2008 09:32:55 PM
Who is she? That isn't Parker Posey is it? She's got hot legs!
If it lasts three eps by DevilCat	Mar 14th, 2008 09:37:12 PM
That means we'll have to suffer through three talkbacks for it.
Phew! by k88dad	Mar 14th, 2008 09:47:56 PM
Caught a few minutes of the diner/different tables scene. Had to hold my nose and change the channel. Wretched dialogue, not funny and a laugh track. I watched seven seasons of Gilmore Girls and couldn't last seven minutes of this.
It wasn't...horrible by GregoryHarbin	Mar 14th, 2008 09:48:47 PM
I didn't laugh an awful lot, but there were good moments. The characters have to be understood for who they are, not for who you'd like to watch a TV show about. I think in eight episodes it could really be something. But we'll see if it lasts that long.
You're being generous DevilCat by BrandonGK	Mar 14th, 2008 10:50:42 PM
If the show is still on the air by next week I'll be surprised.
love gilmore girls and Posey ... by heroic_duo	Mar 14th, 2008 11:04:18 PM
... shocked at how bad this was. Quality of a tacky junior college one act play. Poorly realized on all levels. Fail.
Here we go... by nyj_et	Mar 14th, 2008 11:11:55 PM
No Smallville or the Shield talkback, but we'll probably see this one evey week if this pos gets picked up...
Oh boy, I think Herc is drunk... by tonagan	Mar 14th, 2008 11:17:04 PM
It's funny to hear Herc talk trash in the TB. And, try and figure out a way so we know you're in the SNL audience - wear a funny hat, create a distinctive laugh and use it at an inopportune time, something like that.
If this show was by any other writer by The Funketeer	Mar 14th, 2008 11:21:22 PM
Herc wouldn't have even watched it much less raved about it.
interesting by slkboxrman	Mar 14th, 2008 11:58:06 PM
i flipped by it by accident and it caught my attention for the whole hour... it may last...has the nice contrast in the two sisters....the anal retentive, planning every moment of her life sister and the free spirit, dirty, tomboy sister....ill keep watchin....see where it goes
only problem by slkboxrman	Mar 15th, 2008 12:02:27 AM
i have with the show is the title...revealing thats its a book that the one sister wrote about the other sisters imaginary friend is not a good title unless its referenced in every show....same problem i had with that horrible jennifer garner movie, "catch and release" it was mentioned once in the movie and really had nothing to do with the movie or the main character, just something the husband did when he went fishing...no sense at all....but maybe its just me
3 Camera shoot?! by codymr	Mar 15th, 2008 12:17:17 AM
Missed the premier, but a huge fan of Sherman-Palladino. Looked at some pics from TV.com and this looks like a crappy 3 camera sitcom with a laugh track?! If so what a waist of talent in front and behind the camera... or 3.
gotta stand up for the gilmores by LegoKenobi	Mar 15th, 2008 02:34:30 AM
screw the haters -- i loved that damn show. even the last season was actually really good, despite herc saying it wasn't. (you should really give it a 2nd chance, herc...)
welcome back, cheeseball cojones by Napoleon Park	Mar 15th, 2008 02:35:33 AM
where ya been, beyotch?
Why bother? by The Selecter	Mar 15th, 2008 03:26:48 AM
Fox knew it had a stinker and trimmed the order to seven episodes. Unless it absolutely kills in the ratings, the only question is how many they'll show before it disappears.
The importance of casting by lsleelee	Mar 15th, 2008 05:01:41 AM
What we can learn from this show is the importance of proper casting if you write oddly paced dialogue. The rambling cutesy nonsense speeches are just as good as they were in Gilmore Girls, but replace Graham with Posey and it doesn't work AT ALL. See also : Matthew Perry in Studio 60 or most everyone but Bell and Colantoni in Veronica Mars.
Wow... by Sledge Hammer	Mar 15th, 2008 05:54:03 AM
Herc's being even more of a talent vacuum fuckball douchebag dickhead than he usually is. And that's about the only interesting thing about this entire piece. Oh for the days when coaxial was actually worth a damn...
This is exacty like the Gilmore Girls by Angelus_420	Mar 15th, 2008 08:12:34 AM
Sure this shows parents are not as wealth as the Gilmores but the father is just like Richard Gilmore and the relationships between mother and daughters is just the same. I guess you could say this is the poor man's Gilmore Girls.
Call me crazy but by Dragulf	Mar 15th, 2008 09:31:07 AM
I liked it. The second episode was better.
Laugh track killed it. Period. by CarmillaVonDoom	Mar 15th, 2008 09:31:46 AM
Could the execs have made it any clearer where they stood when they insisted on one? I think the girls are safe in distancing themselves from this one already. Nice to see Lauren Ambrose though.
awful by vaterite	Mar 15th, 2008 12:04:49 PM
Speaking as a fan of the gilmore girls, i had high hopes for this show. But after watching both episodes fox showed last night, I will keep my television as far away from this show as possible. The writing was abysmal. The jokes were incredibly obvious and insipid. For example the waiter's "not in my section." Also, I thought the directing was terribly flat and boring, no camera movements, awkward frames etc....
"Herc wouldn't have even watched it" by Hercules	Mar 15th, 2008 12:05:00 PM
Not true. I almost always watch at least one episode of every show.
This is what happens... by christian66	Mar 15th, 2008 12:31:58 PM
...when you're surrounded by Hollywood airheads blowing smoke up your ass. You start to believe The Gilmore Girls was some kinda great show. And then you write another one.
Gilmore season 7 was better than season 6. by Rev. Slappy	Mar 15th, 2008 12:35:01 PM
But nothing beats season 5. Anybody care to wager how many Emmy's Lauren Graham and Kelly Bishop would have won if the show had been on a major network instead of the WB? TV needs more smart, character driven shows.
Rev. Slappy by LegoKenobi	Mar 15th, 2008 12:49:01 PM
word. i totally agree with every word you said. season seven really was heading back to the fantastic TV that season five was. season six was like a slo-mo car wreck, when the pallindos were obviously trying to drive the show into the ground.
Showing you know Yoga doesnt make an actress by jah_kingdom	Mar 15th, 2008 01:21:09 PM
I felt deep embarrassment for the actors who had to voice such terrible dialogue. Poor Parker Posey. Did you notice that in everything she acts in there has to be at least one scene with her doing yoga.
You are such a girl! by ZeroCorpse	Mar 15th, 2008 01:29:01 PM
There's some great SciFi on now, and you're posting about Gilmore Girls spin-offs? You're either really a 15-year-old girl, or you're married and so damn whipped that you never get to see any cool shows anymore. If we paid attention to Coax, we'd think the only shows on television were The Wire, LOST, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Angel, Firefly, anything else done by anyone who ever worked with Joss Whedon, Saturday Night Live, and The Gilmore Girls. Oh, yes. You mention Dr. Who and Torchwood on rare occasions, and you sometimes mentioned Terminator TSCC, and every once in a while you give us a reference to Star Trek or South Park so you can link to the season discs and get your cut from Amazon, but really, you've just sort of stopped talking about most science fiction and animation, and started talking about prime time soap operas. I miss the days when Coax was about cool geek shows, and not about mushy, sloppy, common prime-time fare I could read about in any damn issue of TV Guide or People Magazine. Once upon a time, this site covered the shows others wouldn't.
Unwatchable by rodalpho	Mar 15th, 2008 02:07:01 PM
I loved gilmore girls, but this crap was unwatchable garbage. And it's not just the laugh track (although that was the cherry on top) but also the writing (from the creator of gilmore girls?!), the direction, and the acting from everybody except for Lauren Ambrose. I loved Parker Posey's previous work, so I can only imagine this tripe was the result of multiple takes sucking the soul out of her performance. Soulless annoying trash, with unlikable characters. It doesn't deserve to be on TV at all, much less three episodes. Cancel it now.
Parker Posey and a Laughtrack?... by crayon	Mar 15th, 2008 02:38:28 PM
I was curious because of the Gilmore Girls rub, but those two quirks just removed any hint of excitement I had. I think I'll pass and just read the talkbacks for it each week, hoping that Herc fires off some more great lines like "fuck you!" And just in regards to his last response, hasn't he still not seen the first episode of Dexter? Even though I think the show is overhyped, it clearly needed to be on coax, weekly.
Why the lack of hype tho? by punto	Mar 15th, 2008 03:04:01 PM
I'm curious about why this show didn't get hyped by Herc for months before his premiere.. And I'm not saying it like it would have been a bad thing, I like amy sherman paladino, and it's not like you can look forward to a lot of shows every year... Same with that new Whedon show.
Hey Herc!?! by CriticalBill	Mar 15th, 2008 03:54:46 PM
Did Sherman-Palladino ever reveal the last 4 words of Gilmore Girls? I'd really like to know that.
If it's FOX - It's cancelled in a few weeks. by skywalkerfamily	Mar 15th, 2008 04:55:56 PM

Fox has a new business model. by Christopher3	Mar 15th, 2008 05:16:32 PM
It's the UK one, inspired by the strike. Show 7 eps of something new, then give the slot to something else.
Bleah. by micturatingbenjamin	Mar 15th, 2008 06:35:13 PM
This was all over the place, a meandering piece of 'hip' comedy three years too late. Though, my wife giggled at the 'Hello Kitty' credits and the stupid phone joke. Diane Wiest is great in this, but hey, if she's in the new Lost Boys, I'll give this show another look. P.S. Herc, you're pretty defensive, man. I wouldn't take someone not liking Gilmore Girls personally. I've never seen an episode, but that's because the main chick in the show annoys me on a molecular level. This was okay, I'd watch it if I had to choose between a rerun of Family Guy or Seinfeld and this. It's not as good as Two and a Half Men....Parker Posey is wasted.
Meh by JonQuixote	Mar 15th, 2008 07:08:13 PM
Pretty middle of the road stuff. It seemed to be a good fit for Parker Posey, who was as likable and smokin' as she is in her best roles (and not shrill and annoying like she can be in her worst). I won't be tuning in again, but it didn't give me heaves.
By the way, Troy is pretty great. by Le Vicious Fishus	Mar 15th, 2008 09:48:52 PM

Bleepitty Bleep Blah.... by Brians Life	Mar 15th, 2008 11:20:46 PM
That's what Gilmore Girls is. Its not smart, it's not touching, it's not well-written and the characters don't have interesting arcs or compelling conflict. It's over saturated, mob minded hamfisted bullshit that boggles the mind how it didn't go the way of Heat Vision and Jack....that's right, a show about a TALKING MOTORCYCLE is better than anything I'm willing to bet Amy Palladunkindonuts could spawn from her wannabe a gay man brain. PEACE!
The brilliance of Herc's "Go Fuck Yourself"... by Brians Life	Mar 15th, 2008 11:23:43 PM
...is that there is none. DUDE, debate 101...you never just bash your opponent. Once you attack the debater and NOT the point, you've conceded that you have nothing left to say. One could go further in that since all you felt you needed to type was "Go Fuck Yourself." that you simple had NO rebuttle to one talkbackers negative comments. That is, you CANNOT think of more that is good about Gilmore Girls than is bad. Your kung fu is WEAK!!!!
I love you, Brians Life. by Le Vicious Fishus	Mar 16th, 2008 12:17:44 AM
I love you.
Herc, though it pains me to type this: by Le Vicious Fishus	Mar 16th, 2008 12:21:15 AM
PWNED!!! Hope you enjoyed watching tonight's terrible SNL episode in the audience while I contentedly slept through most of it...
Xiphos? by Le Vicious Fishus	Mar 16th, 2008 12:23:04 AM
By the way, Troy is pretty great.
I couldn't watch five minutes of this show... by johnnyangel	Mar 16th, 2008 08:48:29 AM
Pretty bad. And the laugh track is like needles up my spine.
Gone in 60 Seconds by Karuma	Mar 16th, 2008 08:00:24 PM
Even though the premise is strong and the actors are extremely fetching and well versed the writing is horrible and the way the actors portray their characters is completely off putting. It could have been so much better.
The First Two Episodes by ArianeB	Mar 16th, 2008 11:47:56 PM
Completely missed the friday showing, Saw these on Hulu. There is a huge discrepency between the first two episodes. Parker's character comes off as completely unlikeable in the first episode... not good for a pilot. Then I found her much more likeable and charmingly eccentric in the second episode. The second episode had a lot more laughs too. I'll probably catch the remaining episodes, but I'm planning on not getting attached to the show.
never gets old by slkboxrman	Mar 17th, 2008 03:43:52 AM
when asses criticize dialogue and camera angles......btw maybe there is a rare mention of "dr.who cares" and "torchedmywood" because no one really watches it outside of the UK....sometimes i really wonder when the UK is going to join the 21st century when it comes to special effects...hmmm
What's with the house? by binary	Mar 17th, 2008 08:07:49 AM
1st ep: She's living in a house. 2nd ep: She's living in an almost ridiculously huge apartment. In dialogue towards the end of the episode, she says "I have a house." What, did the house not TEST well? And would it have killed the writing staff to actually, you know, acknowledge that? Plus the laugh track did indeed suck.
binary, maybe the house was a location by Big Jim	Mar 17th, 2008 12:26:32 PM
not available for the series, only the pilot. Or maybe the network wanted them in a co-op apartment building instead (more potential for interaction with whacky neighbours). She said it used to be a meat packing wharehouse. From the size of the place I thought it was an airplane hangar. The laugh track did suck but I had trouble trying to decide if the show would have been better without it or not. The show would have been flatter without it; it added a layer that, if missing, would have been noticeabley absent. But then again, if you put manure on top on an anthill, you make a bigger mound but not necessarily a better one.
Freaking terrible by Jack Burton	Mar 17th, 2008 03:32:00 PM
I tuned in because I like Parker Posey and Lauren Ambrose. Gilmore Girls was ok from what I saw with various girlfriends over the course of that show. Did EVERY 20 something year old girl love that show or was it just me? Anyway, Jezebel James was absolutely terrible. The laugh track is the least of their problems. It tries to be zany and madcap but just ends up looking exhausted. One of those shows where you know they had to know the thing was off the rails but the kept going because they had a job to do. Kind of sad because there are a few dramatic moments where you see the actors trying valiantly to find something real but they are fleeting. There is no way this show is going to survive and that is just fine.

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