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Second. And this is REALLY stupid.
by -guyinthebackrow
Mar 14th, 2008
05:30:58 PM
What kind of moron exec thought this was a good idea?
Third. And didn't he used to be in Matchbox20
by beetlegeuse
Mar 14th, 2008
05:36:57 PM
I keed i keed. but seriously this is really really stupid
Fourth, and screw you!
by Darth_Nader
Mar 14th, 2008
05:40:11 PM
Cupid was one of the best shows EVER. ABC execs screwed it over by never giving it a chance (remember that mantra?). I'm just unsure about the show without Piven. He rocked. If they greenlit a pilot, can they PLEASE release the original series on DVD?
Uh huh
by Charlie Murphy
Mar 14th, 2008
05:40:19 PM
glad Thomas is a busy mafucka these days, and i will catch this when it's on (as i'm a big Thomas fan and missed cupid v1) but... really? really?
Sixth, and I agree with Fourth
by The Ref
Mar 14th, 2008
05:46:14 PM
Get bent, 1-3.
Rob Thomas is a whore.
by Pennsy
Mar 14th, 2008
05:48:19 PM
;) (mad props to the first one who figures out which Veronica Mars episode that was in)
Wasn't this reported MONTHS ago?
by ShiftyEyedDog2
Mar 14th, 2008
05:55:50 PM
Original is being being prepped on DVD
by ShiftyEyedDog2
Mar 14th, 2008
05:57:11 PM
Thomas said ABC wanted to put it out, but was holding back until new series hits to cross-promote.
What kind of fucking moron...
by ebonic_plague
Mar 14th, 2008
06:01:07 PM
...does one have to be to get a job at ABC these days? They had a great show with a great cast, cancel it, the stars go on to bigger and better things, and then they wait until everyone has completely forgotten about it and decide to greenlight it again, thinking lightning will strike twice? This shit is beyond parody. Network television needs to be euthanized.
Twelth?
by BetaRayBill07
Mar 14th, 2008
06:05:43 PM
Ugh- I guess its this crap or the crap known as Knight Rider
NBC follows suit, orders three more seasons of Seinfeld
by Suckitdorks
Mar 14th, 2008
06:25:18 PM
I wish
I loved Cupid, but
by StovetopStuffin'
Mar 14th, 2008
06:30:19 PM
will it be the same without Piven in the lead? He was a main reason why the show worked. Unfortunately, they didn't know how the fuck to market the damn show.
Rob Thomas is a whore
by pre-sequitur
Mar 14th, 2008
06:39:19 PM
was said by Piz to Veronica in one of the last episodes of the series... I think it was the second to last.
Amazing casting was part of this show's appeal
by snowpuff
Mar 14th, 2008
06:43:24 PM
Piven and Marshall were fantastic in these roles. It's like the show was made for Piven (was it?)

I'm interested to see who Thomas finds to succeed these two actors in the role...

And yeah, why did they cancel it again?
Try Ryan Reynolds
by RyanMurray
Mar 14th, 2008
06:51:46 PM
Why not?
No Piven, no Sherilynn Fenn (Yum!), no dice.
by Dingbatty
Mar 14th, 2008
06:53:23 PM
Whedon FIREFLY fans will now be out in force...
by Big Dumb Ape
Mar 14th, 2008
06:54:58 PM
...All chanting "It deserves another chance too! Sure, it was on TV and bombed. Sure, it got a big screen treatment and died. Which is exactly why it deserves a THIRD shot now!"

Other shows now deserving a second shot because the public just didn't "get it" the first time around and because they were ideas way ahead of their time also include BJ AND THE BEAR, SUPERTRAIN and PINK LADY AND JEFF.

No JEZEBEL JAMES Premiere talkback?!?
by Steve Trevor
Mar 14th, 2008
07:17:59 PM
Seriously Herc, aren't you a HUGE Palladino supporter? I know this show will be cancelled by next Friday but COME ON!?!
Just Get Back to Veronica!!!!
by arzbest
Mar 14th, 2008
07:49:28 PM
For God's sake! We needs us lots more of the tiny blonde one!
Wait, this is coming back...
by xannibal
Mar 14th, 2008
08:11:08 PM
But Reaper is on the bubble, leaning towards a "no"? I just give up.
Jeffrey D. Sams — Champ, be returning?
by EvilWizardGlick
Mar 14th, 2008
08:30:34 PM
Just asking.
no piven...
by jarodvhale
Mar 14th, 2008
08:33:56 PM
what's the point? really...it was all about him... and she was so hot...
Wait, a WHAT sequel?
by Larry of Arabia
Mar 14th, 2008
09:37:19 PM
Pardon me while I go bang my head against a rock.
This is wrong.
by TheHichhiker
Mar 14th, 2008
09:54:59 PM
I LOVED the original, but a remake will be forever handicapped by the greatness of the original. Thats just not fair to anyone involved. Write something new, Rob. (and no, 90210 does not count!!)
Cool! This means
by Steve_Dooku
Mar 14th, 2008
09:57:05 PM
New Journeyman in 10 years.

Excellent.
what's the big deal about Cupid?
by punto
Mar 14th, 2008
10:28:35 PM
It was boring.
Bring it On
by Karuma
Mar 14th, 2008
10:30:19 PM
Those that disparage the short lived but very watchable "Cupid" must have never seen it. It was funny, poignant, and had an air of mystery and romance. Sure, there were mistakes made but they were few and far between and with the brilliant Jeremy Piven and Paula Marshall it was far, very far from bad and should have stayed on the air. It was on Saturday night, for heavens sake, a death knell for any series in the late '90's. They don't even put new episodes of series on Saturdays anymore. E Online even named it one of the top ten shows canceled before its time. If you compare it with the drivel that actually stayed on the air for several years, i.e. Seinfeld (horrible concept poorly executed but very popular due to the dumbing down of our society), "Walker, Texas Ranger" (please), and Babylon 5 (poor writing, poor execution),just to name a few. In the end though, everyone knows it's all about numbers and not quality, otherwise our viewing habits would be vastly different.
Original Cupid
by codymr
Mar 14th, 2008
10:41:25 PM
I recall Piven was great in the original... That said, it was short lived the first time, why do they think it will catch on this time? Weird?!
90210: The Next Class
by codymr
Mar 14th, 2008
10:54:44 PM
Never a fan of the original, but several GFs over the years would watch it religiously... I seem to recall an ad on FOX near the end of the series' 10 year run promoting the premier of sequel series called something like 90210: The Next Class. It looked like they had shot at least a pilot, but I never heard anything after that one spot. I remember it because I rolled my eyes and thought 90210 would never die. My GF and a couple of her friends mocked me. Curious about it's fate for the sake of trivia.
The original Cupid was pretty good...
by Yeti
Mar 15th, 2008
12:51:47 AM
it just had the misfortune of airing on Saturday night (back in the days when they still aired first run eps on Sats.) and being paired with the redux of Fantasy Island (the one with Malcom McDowall) but it wasn't the same without the creppy little runt shouting "da plaaaane! da plaaaane"
Wow, Thomas is completely out of ideas, isn't he?
by AnnoyYou
Mar 15th, 2008
01:24:28 AM
But I already knew this by watching the first few episodes of S2 Veronica Mars. Wow.
Wow, people are never happy.
by password.swordfish
Mar 15th, 2008
03:50:03 AM
I never saw the original (too young, too young), but I'm just glad that such a talented creator is back on the air dealing with subject matter that is fit for him. No, 90210 doesn't count, because it was a terrible, soapy, shitty, contrived drama (and I was a preteen girl at the time it aired... it was MEANT for me). Take this any day over CSI: Phoenix or sitcom X about schlubby funny man and his hot wife and kids. Rob Thomas, you've proven with VM that you deserve my viewership at least for the first few episodes.
I heart Paula Marshall
by I Dunno
Mar 15th, 2008
07:11:18 AM
I fell in love with her in Hellraiser 3. If only she made out with Dax in that movie, it would have been better than Star Wars. She must not give very good head though because she's been in more failed series than --- holy shit, I have IMDB.com open in another window...she's almost old enough to be my mother! Meh, I'd still hit it.
BIGFOOT AND WILD-BOY RULES!
by Uncle Stan
Mar 15th, 2008
07:48:30 AM
TV that was TV.
Un. Fucking. Believable.
by ScaryWaitress
Mar 15th, 2008
08:19:49 AM
OK, I'm one of the few people out there who is still... STILL... pissed that Cupid was canceled the first time around. Piven was not just fantastic in the role, he was a total breath of fresh air in a world of same-old same-old on tv back then. I never understood the network's "plan"... it wasn't some little sitcom with a disposable set, it was an hour-long show, so OBVIOUSLY someone believed in it enough to throw money at it... and then they put it on Saturday night? And wonder why no one watched? So effing stupid. Karuma, you are SPOT ON... what the ever-living HELL is a show like Babylon 5 doing on the air, when Cupid gets canceled after six episodes. Ridiculous. I still consider canceling my cable service at LEAST once a week, just because there's nothing on... and when something good DOES get on, it gets discarded.

There is ZERO point of bothering with this show if Piven and Marshall aren't the leads. ABC, you suck.

What's with the random attack on Firefly?
by Captain Mal
Mar 15th, 2008
08:53:51 AM
Fuck yourself, Big Dumb Ape.
Sherilynn Fenn was on the original?...
by DanielKurland
Mar 15th, 2008
10:00:02 AM
Five feet of heaven in a ponytail, indeed.
Cupid's first run's downfall....
by Darth_Nader
Mar 15th, 2008
10:44:14 AM
Just like Fox and Firefly, I think after the first 3 episodes, Cupid never aired in the same timeslot/day from week to week. I remember one week in particular, they moved it to Thursday night, on Monday, so none of paper tv guides (before the Intertubes), even had it listed. If they do put it together, put it back in Chicago. Don't make it a NYC or LA show. Wicked Awesome....
Dumbing down of Karuma...
by DreadPirateRoberts
Mar 15th, 2008
12:42:03 PM
Dude, you and I agree about Cupid, but you lose it when you join the masses who claim 'the dumbing down of society' whenever something YOU don't like happens to be popular. Seinfeld was not popular because people are stupid. It was popular because it took some simple topics most people could recognize themselves or in someone they knew and took them to extreme parody. Simple concept and usually funny as hell. Walker Texas Ranger was just the same recycled concept (Kung Fu, Hulk, etc.) and clicked with Chuck Norris (not that I ever saw the point personally). And Babylon 5 may have had script issues, but every now and then it rewarded its then Sci-Fi starved audience with a "knock it out of the park" sf episode and kept fans in.

Sorry to be so harsh with the subject line, but everyone who does not like what you do is not necessarily dumb.
I liked 90210
by Dazzler69
Mar 15th, 2008
01:15:08 PM
for the first 5 seasons but lost interest after Shannon the bitch left. She did the same thing for me for Charmed when she left that I lost interest. All shows should start off with Shannon.
I smell a failure
by crayon
Mar 15th, 2008
02:42:19 PM
Without the original cast, this one is gonna stink. Even with so-called "Veronica Mars mastermind" Rob Thomas back on it. ESPECIALLY if he uses the same casting agents as he did for VM, coz god they hired their share of turds.
Cupid rhymes with Stupid
by Drath
Mar 15th, 2008
10:02:59 PM
The true god of love was named Eros. Just as the true god of war was named Ares not Mars. Let's go with the original Greek (better) names. I think of a fat baby in a diaper with a bow and arrow when I hear the name Cupid. Bluck!
No Piven?
by Juleebabee
Mar 15th, 2008
10:18:19 PM
New cast? Pffft...I will not watch it..I might even boycott it. Gah..they canceled a great show and now they wanna bring it back like it never happened (withOUT the awesomeness that is Jeremy Piven). BLAH!!! >____
A complete reboot or indirect sequel?
by Prof. Pop-Cult
Mar 15th, 2008
10:53:11 PM
Last I recall, they said the show's setting would be in Los Angeles. I would suggest that Thomas and ABC take the route that Joss Whedon did with his Buffy series verses the original movie: Make the new Cupid not an origin story (other than for quickly reiterating the show's premise in the first episode) but a continuation of the same concept and main characters, but don't make any direct references to specific events from the original series.

I think that would effectively satisfy fans of the original series (me included), but also allow for the new series and its cast to establish themselves on their own terms.

Here's how they should do it...
by Prof. Pop-Cult
Mar 15th, 2008
11:03:40 PM
Have it set up where Dr. Claire Allen has been running a practice in LA for several years now. Maye she's a celebrity book author who has written books about romance and dating scene advice. Suddenly, one day Trevor shows up. We then learn that Trevor disappeared unexpectedly 10 years ago, back when Claire was in Chicago.

They could start the new series in such a way like this where it wouldn't confuse those viewers who never heard of the original series. But at the same time this version could acknowledge what came before in the original series 10 years ago.

They NEED Piven!
by D'Jesus
Mar 16th, 2008
01:20:09 AM
He was fantastic in that show. And dammit, it should never have been canceled. Brilliant writing and acting
Does this mean that networks will start mining failed series...
by Mister Man
Mar 16th, 2008
07:08:23 AM
for new shows? Supertrain 2010!!
Bring Back Shatner's BARBARY COAST
by Lenny8
Mar 16th, 2008
10:48:58 AM
And while we're at it, MANIMAL. Or LOVE, AMERICAN STYLE.
While networks want to remake a series all over....
by TRON
Mar 16th, 2008
11:10:31 AM
Especially within a short time.....Why dont they remake American Gothic or Golden Years...truly two series that were cut short in their storyline. Damn CBS!!!! Damn You all to Hell!!!!! They could possibly bring back Nightmare Cafe while they are at it.!!!
Cupid was created the first time round because of McBeal
by estacado1
Mar 16th, 2008
01:08:36 PM
Now with the emergence of Eli Stone, it gets a second round.
I'm glad it's coming back...
by allykatD
Mar 16th, 2008
02:07:41 PM
I loved Cupid and was pissed when it was cancelled. It was a great and fun idea that never got to be explored. Although I loved Piven in the role as Cupid, I don't care if it has a new cast, I'm glad it's back.
By the way, Troy is pretty great.
by Le Vicious Fishus
Mar 16th, 2008
02:33:25 PM
What ever happened to "WONDERLAND"?
by moviemenace
Mar 16th, 2008
08:24:26 PM
Speaking of short-lived shows with Jeremy Piven (I think he made an appearance). I liked "Cupid" but never had the chance to get into it. If memory serves, "Wonderland" was created by Peter Berg and I did not even get the opportunity to watch one episode. That shit got pulled quick. Did any of you watch it? Was it any good?
Hey Drath, about Eros vs Cupid....
by Darth_Nader
Mar 16th, 2008
10:20:19 PM
They actually did address that one in the first episode. "Trevor" aka Cupid rattled through some of his other aliases, and one of the other characters pointed out that his perfect opposite was the Greek goddess Psyche. Hmm, what was Paula Marshall's character, a psychologist. Nice huh? Oh, and the delectable Sherilyn Fenn only showed up in one episode. Trevor fell for her, but is convinced if he has sex with her, he's be stuck as a mortal. Yeah, I know the show. Hey Rob, hire me to work on the new series!
Loved the original but OK with a comeback
by toomuchjoy
Mar 16th, 2008
11:32:34 PM
Look, I loved the original, copied em all to DVDs for friends and crap, but just like Journeyman (another series I dug), Cupid didn't really click until around its fifth episode (the Halloween one, specifically). Then it got great--the Lisa Loeb ep was awesome--but by then it was too late. Being put on Saturdays was terrible, and they got to follow that wretched Fantasy Island remake; no wonder it tanked. The show was shot in Chicago at Piven's request since he's a native. Without him involved (presumably), it can go to L.A. The original was definitely a perfect fit for him, but cast right, it could be a great show for someone else. It wouldn't be the same series--how could it be?--but so long as they avoid being the freakin' Love Boat, that's OK.
"What's with the random attack on Firefly?"
by Big Dumb Ape
Mar 17th, 2008
01:04:14 AM
You then simply said "Go fuck yourself, Big Dumb Ape." Wow, what a witty response, Captain Mal!

For crying out loud, I was just making a joke...you know, a silly aside...which was ironically somewhat relative to the topic of giving CUPID a second chance at life since FIREFLY fans are ALWAYS among the first and most vocal to continually cry out that their show somehow got shafted (even after getting a big budget movie) and thus it deserves yet another shot. But all in all it really was just a toss-away joke in a simple talkback thread.

But I guess the fact that you actually named yourself "Captain Mal" pretty much shows you aren't going to have a big sense of humor when it comes to all things FIREFLY. Hmm, I don't know why, but the image of William Shatner appearing on SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE in an infamous sketch where he is talking to Trek Con fans and he utters a now-famous phrase is suddenly coming to mind...

Pray to the gods of TV that this doesn't work!
by Kid Z
Mar 17th, 2008
09:39:21 AM
...unless you want to see "Joey" brought back with a different, younger cast! (shudder!)
BDA and Firefly Jokes
by Captain Mal
Mar 17th, 2008
11:06:56 AM
Forgive me for being overly-gruntled (and witty), but your "silly aside" compared a show I dearly love with BJ AND THE BEAR, y'know?

For whatever reason, Browncoats get a lot of random hate on these boards, and I rarely comment on it. I'm not a Whedon zombie (never cared for any of his other shows), and I'm not even much a television watcher, but FF was something that really, *really* worked for me, and it's demise still hurts, man! It HURTS, bro! I lie in bed at night caressing my Serenity model and whispering "Everything's gonna be shiny... just keep flying..."

So, yeah, I haven't got much of a sense of humor about FF's early death. Now, if you'll excuse me, I must get back to sewing my Captain Mal costume. I'm gonna make those Star Trek dorks look like idiots at the next convention. Pointy-eared losers.

two stupid ideas for the price of one
by JimCurry
Mar 17th, 2008
08:37:28 PM
and of course Herc will be there to guzzle as much of Thomas' jizz that he can fit into his oversize gob.
Captain Mal...
by Big Dumb Ape
Mar 18th, 2008
08:24:55 PM
Really, I was just joking for fun, so actually I apologize if it stepped on a fellow geek's toes. And since this is a giant geek haven of all shapes, sizes and interests, you and the Browncoats don't ever have to apologize FOR being Browncoats as far as I'm concerned, much like Trekkers or Jedis or anyone else shouldn't have to apologize for their loves as well. I say more power to you (or anyone) if you really love your particular show that much.

Hell, I just wish creative directors and rogramming execs showed as much passion in terms of getting behind things so shows WOULD last longer or at least have an actual fighting chance at surviving...

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