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by phalaughul
Mar 13th, 2008
09:56:36 PM
mr.tomnas, mr.tomnas
by phalaughul
Mar 13th, 2008
09:57:23 PM
Well, it was better than Goldan Compass
by skywalkerfamily
Mar 13th, 2008
09:59:29 PM
That was bad.
golden compass sucked
by theredtoad
Mar 13th, 2008
10:03:22 PM
I still think this new narnia will be a suckfest as well
Yes, RedToad...
by TheRealMoriarty
Mar 13th, 2008
10:13:06 PM
... but you're a talkbacker. You are contractually obligated to think everything is a "suckfest." Keep up the good work!
Mori...you forgot...
by Jimmie Dimmick
Mar 13th, 2008
10:27:48 PM
It can also rule and be the only bestest film EVER!
Pedestal or toilet bowl; the only two choices possible and if you don't agree with me...you must be gay.
What man...you new here?
glad i am the Shrekman is not directing
by pipergates
Mar 13th, 2008
10:30:55 PM
He had a lot of fine elements in the first Narnia. But live action direction seems to not be his strong suit. Now this next Narnia sounds and looks much better. Deeper, darker, fuller. I have hopes.
Blarnia...
by Batutta
Mar 13th, 2008
10:41:32 PM
The problem with this series is the shitty source material.
Narnia is and has been OVER-WHORED on this site for awhile
by future help
Mar 13th, 2008
10:42:00 PM
now...it's as bad as Hostel 2 and such...
Moriarty, bashing the very people who keep him employed.
by Kurzinski Valentine
Mar 13th, 2008
10:54:50 PM
And according to his comment, does that mean Merrick is a talkbacker as well?
These will be better than Potter
by tough_times
Mar 13th, 2008
10:59:30 PM
The movies that is.
"do you have an ipod?"
by ludmir88
Mar 13th, 2008
11:03:25 PM
No. I haven't. I'm not that trendy
Nice read......
by Aloy
Mar 13th, 2008
11:12:51 PM
The first Narnia was an ok flick to take my nephew to see but I actually have hope for this one to stand on it's own. Thanks for the report. Congrats on the brat!
I fail to see how theredtoad keeps mori employed.
by Warcraft
Mar 13th, 2008
11:15:18 PM
yeah...
Sorry, can't read this
by BeatsMe
Mar 13th, 2008
11:22:10 PM
PC is going to be a piece of poo, no matter what.
Skander will be back in Dawn Treader
by performingmonkey
Mar 13th, 2008
11:22:23 PM
Mori, you say Skander is leaving but Edmund is still around in Voyage of the Dawn Treader. I hope they're not cutting him out. It's the older two kids, Peter and Susan, that can't go back to Narnia.
Mori, who are the two men in that first picture?
by LoneGun
Mar 13th, 2008
11:48:26 PM

I'm guessing that you're the guy on the right, and maybe that's Mark Johnson on the left? Just curious.

And by the way, that Friedken-SORCERER story was hilarious. Thanks for sharing that.

good report mori
by Darth Thoth
Mar 13th, 2008
11:48:36 PM
and congrats again on the new child
Lone
by Quint
Mar 13th, 2008
11:55:48 PM
I'm not Moriarty, but I'm going to answer for him... because I can! The big dude with the handlebar stache is Howard Berger... a totally awesome dude, by the way. The skinny bloke is director Andrew Adamson. Now ya' know and GI Joe says that's more than a quarter of the battle right there.
Thanks, Quint!
by LoneGun
Mar 14th, 2008
12:08:16 AM
Just checked Berger's listing on IMDB. Quite an impressive resume.
come on Narnia is great...
by Seph_J
Mar 14th, 2008
12:08:23 AM
... and I hope they make them all. And hell... why not split each story into 2 or 3 parts.... then you can get about 20 films out of it! Release one at Christmas, one in May, and another in September! But no seriously, how can anyone not be happy about seeing a fantasy epic like the Narnia books put on screen, by WETA? What could be better? Just don't change the end of 'The Last Battle'.
Lone...
by TheRealMoriarty
Mar 14th, 2008
12:32:43 AM
... good point. I went ahead and captioned the picture. All the others are fairly self-explanatory based on the text around them, I think.
What about continuity for the average joes
by Shub-Wankalot
Mar 14th, 2008
12:52:49 AM
Those casual cinephiles who've seen the first film in this chronicle are familiar and attached to the Pevensies. But in the subsequent books those characters become absent(short of "Voyage of the Dawn Treader" and "The Last Battle"), and the reaction of the audience could be a mixed bag, perhaps even lukewarm to the appearance of new unseasoned main characters who take the center stage. Hopefully, the audience is flexible and open-minded. Time will tell.
Great report Mori
by TerryMalloy
Mar 14th, 2008
12:57:20 AM
I've always wanted to go to Prague.
Shub...
by 23GreatWoundsAllGotInBattle
Mar 14th, 2008
01:22:39 AM
I'm curious about that myself. Plus, the ending of the entire series kind've came at me outta left field when I read it.
Great write up Mori,...
by Prague23
Mar 14th, 2008
04:20:46 AM
Living in Prague myself, I've tripped over more than a few productions being filmed here, including Narnia stuff. In fact, I had to postpone my trip to Krivoklat castle (http://www.krivoklat.cz/en/) last year because they were filming there and it was closed for a weekend. I think they only used interiors from the rather small castle but the employees there either didn't know ANYTHING about it or were playing real dumb. And I even asked about it in Czech!

Any info about what you saw in Prague other than the aforementioned? Good food, beer, aggressive prostitute stories? There's going to be a big anti-radar protest at Prague Castle Saturday which I'm planning to cover for a local newspaper. Many here aren't as excited about beginning WWIII as America is, with all these Cold War anti-trust, Kosovo supporting threats. Narnia has war in it, so that wasn't so off topic, right?

The Infant of Prague Customized My Van
by tonagan
Mar 14th, 2008
05:19:14 AM
I love the Dead Milkmen.
Yet another dreaded Christmas newsletter.
by Mister Man
Mar 14th, 2008
05:31:31 AM
The ones you don't read, and are amazed people write.
I hate the first, so will probably wait for dvd
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
Mar 14th, 2008
05:51:22 AM
The worst thing was the almost universal praise this recieved. It was the most average adaptation I've witnessed. Not bad, not good, just average.
8,000 hour flight
by random dude
Mar 14th, 2008
06:20:08 AM
That's a lot of time
Mori STILL hates Talkbackers
by Lenny8
Mar 14th, 2008
06:26:23 AM
I wonder if every time he gets a pay check, instead of cashing it, he just urinates on it and then eats it. Same end result.
Lion, Witch sucked
by kwisatzhaderach
Mar 14th, 2008
06:31:44 AM
but here's hoping they hire sombody cool to make Magician's Nephew...that would make one hec of a film.
that's heck, not hec...
by kwisatzhaderach
Mar 14th, 2008
06:32:10 AM
The Paycheck...
by StarskyandHushky
Mar 14th, 2008
06:49:06 AM
...comes for the site, not the Talkbackers. The TBers are the vocal 1% of the visitors, the mostly retarded 1%, that is. And yes, I proudly include myself in that group. So if any of the writers want to comment on the TBers, they are welcome to do so. We are a bunch in degenerates, so get of your fucking 'We pay your salary' horse and let's join in the next meme! God damn you, Michael Bay!
good job moriarty
by Gungan Slayer
Mar 14th, 2008
08:03:47 AM
thanks for the set report, well worth the read. and awesome Sid Sheinberg story. couldn't stop laughing lol
By the way,
by Le Vicious Fishus
Mar 14th, 2008
08:07:31 AM
Troy is pretty great.
you met Warwick!!!! That's fucking great!
by Kloipy
Mar 14th, 2008
08:39:55 AM
I am a Warciple along with my fellow members of the Church of Chang, Warwick is a hero to us all
Remember 'The Dark is Rising" set visit?
by Merriman Lyon
Mar 14th, 2008
08:51:45 AM
Reminds me of Harry's "visit" to the Praque shoot and the subsequent glowing publicity puff piece he wrote on behalf of that abomination. Funny how TDIR isn't mentioned any more on AICN. I'm still waiting for an explanation as to why AICN became involved in the marketing of a film that pissed all over some tremendous source material.

And Moriarty, please refrain from referring to yourself or your personal life in your reports. I had to skip through half your post in order to get to the set report. Such phrases as "I was very busy that week" when you were "invited" to the set give the wrong impression that you are a major "player" in Hollywood whose creative contribution is highly valued. In fact you are a contributor to a movie fansite who has been corralled into writing some free publicity copy for the movie. You are a cog in the studio marketing machine and please don't pretend otherwise. Just the facts please, Mr Moriarty: just the facts.

TOO VERBOSEY!!!
by TheGhostWhoLurks
Mar 14th, 2008
09:26:39 AM
Now we know how your poor driver felt picking you up from the airport...
you're right, mori
by LegoKenobi
Mar 14th, 2008
09:48:33 AM
most talkbackers are never EVER happy. but i'm gonna buck that trend: i loved the first movie, and i'm jazzed about this one. i hope it succeeds, and they get to do every single other book in the series. thanks for yet another worthwhile piece from you, mori. i'm jealous as hell that you got to go to prague! all hail tumnus & reepicheep!
Long Live Warwick!
by just pillow talk
Mar 14th, 2008
09:54:48 AM
The Church of Chang shall ring the bell 3 times in your honor Mori.
Talkbackers pay the bills
by Lenny8
Mar 14th, 2008
10:33:45 AM
This site relies on ad revenue, which is metered by site visits, sessions, etc. Talkbacks provide repeat site hits. If the TB section was such a pain in the ass, it would have been dropped the first time Mori said it's "nothing more than kids writing on the bathroom wall" ten years ago. But here it is, because Talkback pays the bills.
Keep cranking out
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
Mar 14th, 2008
10:52:08 AM
I greatly enjoyed the first movie and so did my kids
by snowpuff
Mar 14th, 2008
11:17:10 AM
How many Hollywood movies can you say that about - where both the parents and children enjoy the flick together? Except for Pixar, the answer is: very very few.

Keep up the great work, Narnia folks!
harry, Mori, please...
by adrian-veidt
Mar 14th, 2008
11:22:32 AM
Not knocking your website design at all. Its fine, but please, PLEASE try to change the COLOR of your posts. it is VERY hard on the eyes, ad difficult to read. You're halfway there with the white background, dark colors off of white are the easiest for the eye to discern, but for body copy legibility, serif fonts are fastest for the eye to recognize, if that's to stodgy, at least go to a lighter font style of your sans serif font. I love coming here but, honestly, its difficult to read your reviews, not because what you say, but the way it is presented. Thanks, a graphic designer.
adrian-veidt...
by MattmanReturns
Mar 14th, 2008
11:35:29 AM
I'm a graphic designer too... you shouldn't be coming to AICN's site period if bad design bugs you. I come here for movie news and reviews, and I check my design merits at the door.
Talkbackers pay the bills?
by MattmanReturns
Mar 14th, 2008
11:38:39 AM
Actually there's plenty of people who come to AICN who don't have to comment on everything... they're probably who pay the bills, since the rest of us are busy telling each other to fuck off, rather than clicking on banners.
MattmanReturns
by adrian-veidt
Mar 14th, 2008
11:44:04 AM
I'm commenting on legibility. Not on the design of it. It's difficult to read, it makes my eyes swim to see all this bold and red text. I think a small change would help them out.
Still, the only reason I visit the site is the TalkBacks
by Kurzinski Valentine
Mar 14th, 2008
11:52:32 AM
If I want actual, reliable, EARLY news, I'll go to IESB, Slashfilm, or even Defamer, all of which scoop AICN 98% of the time, without the annoying opinion/useless story about your kid aspect.

However, the TalkBacks are simply hilarious, and always a great read.

On Talkbacks....
by JayWells87
Mar 14th, 2008
12:38:42 PM
I must admit, most of my time at work is spent reading AICN talkbacks....they really are hilarious....one person hates something, calls someone a fag, others condemn him, some come to his aid...the talk backs are pretty great...as is Troy....
Narnia-crap. His Dark Materials-awesome
by JacksParasites
Mar 14th, 2008
01:14:54 PM
Narnia is just straight propaganda. The girl gets punished because she develops into a woman and likes makeup? What the fuck is that bullshit! You don't see Pullman betray his characters like that. C.S. Lewis used his books to promote negative messages and I'm glad that film made shit at the box office. Meanwhile The Golden Compass, while less successful in the U.S., has broken records over seas.
Why is "McWeeny" going there to do this?
by Photoman
Mar 14th, 2008
02:09:53 PM
What's in it for him? Who paid for that? He can't possibly be getting paid by AICN can he? To fly all the way to Prague for this? Tell me he works somewhere else. I have to assume that the revenue generated here at AICN has to be almost nothing....well, except for the studio kick-backs and swag you get for all the positive reviews. Come on, we all know this happens.
So.....Jesus wrote this article?
by ArcadianDS
Mar 14th, 2008
03:00:11 PM
The wall of red text was a little hard to read on that stark white backdrop. Just sayin. I enjoyed it but now everything looks fuzzy around the edges.

As to Photoman's question of 'why?' try looking at the end credits for Hostel. Thats probably all.

Mornia, I mean Mori but Narina IS a suckfest
by Proman1984
Mar 14th, 2008
03:32:13 PM
Was and always will be.
Great article, Drew
by Archive
Mar 14th, 2008
04:09:11 PM
Little things in these articles, for me, are what make them so enjoyable. Reading this gives one a few very good ideas about how to connect with a crew and pace oneself when directing a 100 million dollar film. Anyone in the film industry or film school can really benefit from reading articles like this, and it's that attention to personal detail that makes this site my favorite. I was on the set of Inland Empire, and David used music as a tool to get everyone on the same emotional page, as well. It's a really good idea, and the notion of having something in your hand, like an iPod, that allows you to connect with everyone on such a huge set, without interrupting their work, is brilliant. When you have that many people on set, and each department becomes kind of a community of it's own, having tools like that helps keep everyone working on the same film, and it helps you keep your hand on the steering wheel. Very useful!
Mori, about the bipolar talkbackers
by SpencerTrilby
Mar 14th, 2008
04:11:34 PM
you DO make a point, a good one. But it struck me how recently you became oversensitive about those things. Is it the shit you were given for doubting the Indy IV trailer? You clearly grew up too self-aware and touchy about the TB and I think alienating your audience in return won't make things go better. Theredtoad's comment was indeed a kneejerk reaction (and clearly lacked substance to say the least) but what about yours?

That being said, thanks for the Sorcerer bit of trivia. Old Friedkin anecdotes always crack me up.

...and Photoman,
by Archive
Mar 14th, 2008
04:16:23 PM
Drew is one of our industry's increasingly successful - and increasingly well compensated, thanks to the WGA - screenwriters! While I don't mean to speak for him, I get the sense he does stuff like this because he thinks movies are really cool, and he said at the top of the article that the draw for him was meeting and hanging out with Mark Johnson, and talking movies with one of the industry's most experienced and interesting producers.
Sheee...
by Archive
Mar 14th, 2008
04:19:26 PM
I'd fly to Prague to have seafood with Mark Johnson. I'd fly to Prague just to fly to Prague! Didn't you see Mission: Impossible? The place looks beautiful! Nobody has to get paid for that!
Besides, Photoman...
by Archive
Mar 14th, 2008
04:27:43 PM
I've seen seasoned pros bust ass on movies for no money, just to have a day on set with someone they admire. People who make movies, love movies - and Drew makes movies, and so does Mark Johnson, for that matter. It's the people who talk about making movies when they should BE making movies that you gotta watch out fer. The whole "my time is so precious, I won't take a call without a check in my hand first" mentality is maintained by people with something to prove, in my experience. If you're sure about yourself, you don't have to shine folks on. Most of the successful folks I know, contrary to popular mythology, are good, generous folks who love what they do. It's the posers who make a stink.
And probably...
by Archive
Mar 14th, 2008
04:30:47 PM
...they make a fuss to cover the fact that they're not actually doing anything. It's the same in any business, I should think. The trick is to surround yourself with the good, do-right folks, and most folks will go out of their way for that kind of crowd. Even Prague. Possibly especially Prague.
That's why...
by Archive
Mar 14th, 2008
04:33:21 PM
...AICN comments so much on the character of the people they get behind, I should imagine. It's part of why the gig is fun, and character has a profound impact in collaborative art of any kind.
Nice to read an article about good people...
by Archive
Mar 14th, 2008
04:37:37 PM
...after the stomach churning news about MGM and Robocop. Good gravy, that made me upset. From the legacy of Kubrick and those before him, to this. Thanks for the lift, Drew!
JacksParasites
by Archive
Mar 14th, 2008
04:44:13 PM
By what standard was Narnia a financial failure? Over 600 million in ticket sales? It was one of the biggest hits of the year by my reckoning, and I recall that Disney stock bloomed as a result. Now, bear in mind that I skipped it - it seemed milquetoast to me personally - but I have to give all respect to the crowd that put it out there, and to the fans that loved it.
isn't that a lot of trouble to go to for a kiddie movie?
by Rupee88
Mar 14th, 2008
04:49:38 PM
I mean going all the way Prague and writing so much about it, not making the movie itself which is about making money (and maybe entertaining little kids).
I'm betting the producer, the director, and probably Drew...
by Archive
Mar 14th, 2008
04:53:36 PM
...thought of it more as an opportunity to create the world of Narnia on film, than they did as a kiddie movie for making money. Making money doing something you love doesn't ruin art, my friend. Making money doing something you hate, or feel ambivalent towards - that ruins art!
And as I said,
by Archive
Mar 14th, 2008
04:54:34 PM
As I said...
by Archive
Mar 14th, 2008
04:55:15 PM
...I'm not sure going to Prague qualifies as trouble, exactly.
Uh, JacksParasites...
by MattmanReturns
Mar 14th, 2008
05:17:34 PM
While I do prefer Golden Compass to Narnia from a story standpoint, I feel the film version of Compass was inferior to the film version of Narnia. That is greatly reflected in the massive ticket sales of Narnia and the rather dismal domestic sales of Compass. In what alternate reality of yours did Narnia make "shit" at the box office? It was huge, both domestically and overseas. Compass did marginally well overseas and peformed terribly in the US.
Oh and btw
by MattmanReturns
Mar 14th, 2008
05:19:47 PM
I'm one of those rare people that can enjoy both Narnia AND Dark Materials. I'm not religious, but I feel Narnia is still a great story.
I liked the Narnia series when I was a kid...
by Le Vicious Fishus
Mar 14th, 2008
06:24:39 PM
I reread them several years ago as a 30 something and was completely turned off by the heavy-handed uber-Christian conservative pontificating and Lewis' sloppy, mediocre prose, bad dialogue and transparent plot devices. The first movie adaptation was also suitable mediocre, and I expect nothing less from PRINCE CASPIAN.

Like Moriarty, my favorite book was THE MAGICIAN'S NEPHEW, which actually was a badly needed breath of fresh air in the series (despite being, like all of those books, thinly cloaked commercials for Lewis' brand of stuffy religious nonsense). Tolkien was one hundred times the writer his friend Lewis was, and--while also a devout Christian--arguably managed to keep any obvious and simplistic Christ symbols out of his work. Basically, unlike the magnificently rendered and complex world of Middle Earth, there is no depth at all to Narnia. It is indeed a series for children, though not one I'd ever encourage my kids to read.

I'm not looking forward to PRINCE CASPIAN, which is perhaps the weakest of all the books aside from THE LAST BATTLE, which is eye-rollingly bad--the most heavy handed of the lot. And that's saying something...
By the way, Moriarty:
by Le Vicious Fishus
Mar 14th, 2008
06:33:54 PM
You're "a fat man?" In that case, your avatar should be updated methinks...
Narnia comments
by snowpuff
Mar 14th, 2008
06:55:37 PM
As I said, the kids and I enjoyed the first Narnia.

But AICN is clearly not going to be the right demographic to write about these films...
STILLKING best production co in Europe?
by Limey_the
Mar 14th, 2008
08:07:40 PM
Hey, Such a long story but no mention that the people looking after you were the production company Stillking, of Barrandov studios. He they'v got an interesting website where ppl can find out more...http://www.stillking.co m
Good read.
by buffywrestling
Mar 14th, 2008
09:33:27 PM
I'm looking forward to this movie. I heard a lot from the extremely talented guys who were doing the muf/x and I can't wait t o see what it looks like on screen.
They should film the next 3 Narnia books back to back
by BDuncan
Mar 14th, 2008
10:49:45 PM
Le Vicious Fishus is correct to say how mediocre CS Lewis's writing is in the Narnia books. If the Caspian film does well, they should script and film (if they can find a director to make the next 3 books back to back) the next 3 Narnia books simultaneously, to cut down on costs and to release the films faster, then do the films of the last 2 books back to back with another director.
Actually the 1st Narnia film underperformed.
by JacksParasites
Mar 15th, 2008
12:49:31 PM
The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe did not live up to its expected earnings and didn't even fair that much better in DVD sales. Like Golden Compass, studios were left unsure whether sequels would be financially wise. And Compass didn't just do marginally well overseas but broke records overseas.
Stop the boldface lies please JacksParasites
by SpencerTrilby
Mar 15th, 2008
02:05:28 PM
Golden Compass performed extremely well overseas, but which significant records did it break exactly? Besides, it bombed in the US of A. Period.

Narnia (which I haven't seen, so no clueless fanboyism here) was the second biggest movie in 2005, made almost $300 million domestic and $750 worldwide. And its sequel is most likely one of the biggest movie (money-wise) to come out in 2008 along with TDK and Indy IV.

JackParasites: Do you read numbers?
by composerguy
Mar 15th, 2008
10:46:09 PM
Golden Compass USA: $70,107,728 Overseas: $275,498,269 Total (worldwide): $345,605,997 Narnia USA: $291,710,957 Overseas: $453,073,000 Total (worldwide): $744,783,957 Both were produced on a budget of aprox. $180 Million (not including advertising and promotion). I'm sorry, what records was Golden Compass breaking? Its cute that you feel like you need to jump to the defense of your hero Pullman though.
Perspective
by composerguy
Mar 15th, 2008
10:50:41 PM
For perspective, Fellowship of the Ring brought in $871,368,364 worldwide....so Narnia made a little over $100,000,000 less. Fellowship was considered a box office success of epic proportions. Narnia's 3-quarters of a BILLION dollars is pretty epic.
SpencerTrilby
by Lenny8
Mar 16th, 2008
10:53:33 AM
Mori hasn't been oversensitive about Talkbackers only "recently." This has been his schtick since he first started writing for Harry a decade ago. He's incapable of personal growth and will ALWAYS shit on the hands that feed him. Which is why is largely (pardon the fact joke) unemployed. No studio will hire a guy who (a) can't be a team player, and (b) openly shits all over his potential fan base. They will, however, throw him and Harry just enough screen credit to guarantee the occasional positive review. This was true ten years ago, and is still true. And ten years from now, when Drew McWeeny's only screen credit are some abominable scripts for a made-for-TV horror anthology schlockfest, and Harry's only credit is "almost-producer for a John Carter movie" this will be clearly evident. In the mean time, it's always fun to watch McWeeny implode every week or so.
So, about that WATCHMEN set visit...
by TheRealRatigan
Mar 16th, 2008
03:34:29 PM
Can we expect it about the the same time as Mrs. Moriarty's next due date, then?
Pullman + Paxton + Strauss = Box Office GOLD.
by MrSandwich
Mar 16th, 2008
04:34:49 PM
Think about it.
They could remake 'Grumpy Old Men' as 'Unmemorable Middle-Aged Men'.
Seriously. Think about it.
TheRealRatigan...
by TheRealMoriarty
Mar 16th, 2008
05:53:11 PM
... that's up to Warner Bros. On set visits like these, I am embargoed many times until the studio is ready to let me write. I would post the WATCHMEN piece today if they'd let me... but it ain't time yet.

I'll say this much... best set visit ever.

Lenny8...
by TheRealMoriarty
Mar 16th, 2008
05:56:41 PM
... you're cute.

Insane, but cute. If you think what happened up above was an "implosion," I think you may be a bit on the overdramatic side. Sorry if I don't think the tendency to be a hypernegative twat is awesome, but calling someone out for it in a short, cordial post is hardly the end of the world, or reason for you to offer such sincere and heartfelt concerns about my employability.

I'm perfectly employable (and if anything, overemployed at any given time), and if you think the idiots who post negative drivel in talkbacks are the "hand that feeds," you're delusional. The most vocal and negative of you are a very, very small percentage of our overall readership. You don't pay for shit, and I feel no obligation to be civil to those who aren't civil to us.

Do unto others..
by DOGSOUP
Mar 16th, 2008
06:24:43 PM
..as they would do to Warwick Davis. They must have passed on the Nine Inch Nails on your iPod eh? Any TalkBacker who has a sense of self-importance needs seriously to find a woman...or man..or lemming...whatever.
Rules, rules...understood, Professor.
by TheRealRatigan
Mar 16th, 2008
09:35:22 PM
Know of anything official on the horizon, then?...If your lips remain sealed on that too, I'll just have abide with the hint of the awesome that you so cruelly dangle.
Moriarty, you've got it all wrong...
by Merriman Lyon
Mar 16th, 2008
10:07:56 PM
There are a couple of problems with these "set visits" reported on AICN. The first issue is that both you and Harry present them as some kind of artistic collaboration between yourselves and the filmmakers - as if you are being invited onto the set in the role of consultants. One symptom of this in your posting is when you tell us that you had a lot going on when you were invited to Prague - as if you were too busy to do the reporting job that, after all, you have chosen as a career. Okay, if it's such a chore then don't go; save both yourself and us the hassle. But here you are implying that you are in such demand in the movie business that all this is something of an inconvenience to you. All of which appears disingenuous when by your own account you behave like a star-struck kid once you arrive on set.

But let's make no mistake as to why the studios extend these invitations. The whole purpose of your presence on a movie set is as an instrument of the publicity campaign for that movie. AICN is a well-known fan site, and has long been co-opted by the studio marketing departments via set visits. This is surely beyond argument - and I am sure you do not suffer from the delusion that your set visits are anything other than that. But, by God do you exaggerate your own importance in these visits!. You make it sound like you are the executive producer! When in reality you are a contributor to a movie fansite that is a cog in a marketing machine.

Perhaps one of the most egregious instances of this manipulation of the site by the studios was when Harry was invited to the set of The Dark Is Rising - also in Prague. Harry wrote a glowingly positive "report" on what turned out to be one of the worst book-to-movie adaptations ever made. But even back then, it was clear that the filmmakers were not interested in respecting the source material - and yet Harry was happy to hype the movie up anyway. And there's still been no retraction or apology from AICN to the fans of what could have been a Harry Potter-beating franchise if it had been handled properly. At one time AICN could be counted on to blow the lid on these instances of studio stupidity - rather than aid and abet them at it.

On a related point, it is very detrimental to your report that you include such a vast amount of personal information. I mean, I hope and trust things are going fine for your family, private life, restaurant outings and so on - just as I wish the same for anyone - but it comes across as irrelevant and unprofessional to include these personal details in your write-ups. Not to mention that it is very tiresome for the reader to have to wade through all this personal material in order to get to the actual movie-related facts. Despite everything, this is still a MOVIE fansite - and not the Drew McWeeny fansite (except perhaps in the infamous script review incident). But this becomes one more reason why the best part of this website IS the talkbacks - and has been for some time.

Mori, I don't wanna take theredtoad's defense
by SpencerTrilby
Mar 17th, 2008
06:23:40 AM
but he wasn't an "hypernegative twat" or even insulting you or this site. The "hypernegativity" you're implying comes in large part from our outsiders' point of view, while you (as a part of the movie-making industry - not talking about the AICN contributor here) are more versed into the compromises it takes (or not) to make a movie. Most people here probably never got involved in this creative process and just want an absolute while watching a movie.

Not to mention the overseas people like me who watch the Hollywood circus with a bit of skepticism since there are so many other ways to make movies, without all the BS compromises. It's not being jaded, it's being open-minded.

Strangely, it reminds me of an anecdote told by Jean Pierre Jeunet (the director of Amelie) while touring the US colleges to make conferences and readings to Film students. Those students were creaming their pants when Jeunet told them the amount of creative freedom he had in France, even on big budget movies. He said afterward that those students were very envious, but none of them expressed interest in trying to make a living outside the US of A and the H'wood system.

With that in mind, I can understand how people - me included - got more and more pissed at the projects the Circus feeds us with, and sometimes focuses that frustration on people like you who - like it or not - are part of the system the moment you agree to do set visits. Those visits are sometimes a good read but let's face it: the occasional scoops you print are what made the site famous in the first place, and are still (along with the international eye-candy, the DVD column and the TBs) what makes it a place for movie lovers. Set visits and reviews are totally optional as far as I'm concerned.

And sorry Mori but when you say that "we don't pay for shit" and therefore we aren't "the hands that feed" (while assimilating the TBers to all the Negative Nancies around) you're either dishonest or delusional. I mean, there may be a few dolls collectors around who don't feel the need to post "FIRST!" or "PWNED!" but my guess is they are a minority.

Moriarty's "contractual obligations"
by Hooded Justice
Mar 18th, 2008
01:35:19 PM
Sorry, Mori - but there's some hypocrisy going on here. You are quick to sneer at what you call a Talkbacker's "contractual obligations" whilst ignoring the issue of your own contractual obligations towards the studios you collaborate with on these so-called "set visits". You state in an above post that you have visited the Watchmen set but are under embargo to talk about it until that particular studio decides the time is right - as part of their marketing strategy. It's also very clear that your set visits constitute a transaction between you and the filmmakers. You are "contractually obliged" to give these people good press in return for them indulging you for an afternoon on their set. And, frankly, that casts your report (and subsequent review) in a very dubious light. Because if you should then express any negativity towards these movies whose sets you have visited, the invitations would dry up pretty quick, wouldn't they? So, as others have stated above, these set visits seriously undermine the credibility and integrity of this site - and no amount of lashing out on your part can change that.

Hypocritical too, is your tendency to engage in precisely the kind of behaviour you scorn. I notice that although you are quite willing to engage in a tit-for-tat "you suck!"-"No, you suck" exchange with a random talkbacker, as soon as some one challenges you seriously and intelligently, you dry right up. The above posts include some well-argued points and legitimate queries to which you have not responded. They are very different from the "you suck!" mentality that you are fond of criticising and yet are happy to encourage by making the same "right back atcha!" retorts. Are you able to take responsiblity for your decisions and intelligently discuss them? - or are you content to call us names and then run away?

Moriarty: The Big Shill
by Murk the Turk
Mar 18th, 2008
04:35:25 PM
Asking for integrity from AICN? I don't think so! This site's been on the take for years - what do you expect? Harry cashed in his credibility a long, long time ago, when the studios bought him out with invitations on set, offers of face time and participation. Hell, he even reviewed one of Drew McWeeny's scripts - giving it a great "unbiased" thumbs-up. This was before it was revealed that McWeeny and Moriarty were the same person - a fact that Harry conveniently forgot to mention in his review. And if Prince Caspian DOES suck ass, you won't hear it from AICN. A positive AICN review has ALREADY been guaranteed by this set visit - and the movie hasn't even been finished yet. Pathetic. It would be funny except that Moriarty & Co have been getting away with it for so long.
"Maugrin" should have been "Fenris Ulf"
by StarBlitzer
Mar 19th, 2008
12:18:08 AM
Other than that TLTWATW was a great flick. But will I really doubt they'll make "The Horse and His Boy" since it was basically Christianity vs. Islam. How would they pull that off without some kind of backlash anytime soon? And if they screw up "The Magician's Nephew," I'll headbutt each and every one of you ^_^
WHY DIDN'T THEY START AT THE BEGINNING?
by LT Weezie
Mar 22nd, 2008
04:50:21 PM
I know that marketing appeal has a lot do with the decisions about what film is made and which is bypassed, but I still can't help but feel a bit puzzled about why they didn't start, in order, with the first book....if the viewer isn't familiar with the books themselves, don't you think the audience wondered "How did that lamppost get there?" Hopefully they will be able to do some type of flashback to help explain how the professor came to be in possession of the wardrobe, and all the other important components of the series.
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