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‘Where Exactly Does One Come Across 324 Dead Bodies??’ ‘Why Would Juliet Lie About That??’ LOST 4.7!!

First! by ChrisVenom	Mar 13th, 2008 01:47:37 AM
huh?
Does anyone know by ChrisVenom	Mar 13th, 2008 01:59:48 AM
How big of a part does Zoe Bell have?
3rd ??? by Miyamoto_Musashi	Mar 13th, 2008 02:27:44 AM
a miracle for me
Miyamoto by ChrisVenom	Mar 13th, 2008 02:35:46 AM
Nice Top 5 in that last thread. Loved your #1.
Thnaks CV by Miyamoto_Musashi	Mar 13th, 2008 02:48:22 AM
Though am getting a little obsessed with Ben, find him and Desmond much more interesting than the Oceanic 6
Hope it's better than 'The Other Woman' by newc0253	Mar 13th, 2008 04:06:55 AM
Maybe it's just the high quality of season 4 in general, but 4.7 seemed to tread water a little. I liked Tempest Station, the voices, creepy Ben and the Red Sox videotape but Juliet's flashbacks were kinda lame (Juliet likes Goodwin, Goodwin is married, Ben likes Juliet, Ben sends Goodwin to his death). We learnt frak all about why Juliet was okay, for instance, with the Others kidnapping children from the wreckage of 815.
CV? by rbrog77	Mar 13th, 2008 06:33:34 AM
Wait...did I just see you mention a top five? Funny, I don't remember a top 5 in the LOST talkbacks recently. You don't mean you are cheating on us and doing top fuves in other talkbacks, are you? Shame...........shame..... ;->
oops by rbrog77	Mar 13th, 2008 06:56:45 AM
My mistake CV. Hadn't been to last week's site when I posted above. Good to know you aren't cheating on us.
She hadnt realised at that poin that by emeraldboy	Mar 13th, 2008 07:24:27 AM
Ben was a sociopathic murderer and control freak. At the point where she is okay with the kidnapping of the children, she is going along with ben in the hope that her work would be finished and she could go home back to her sister. Ben is dangerous but at the point where she is okay with the Kidnapping of the kids she doesnt know. His murder of goodwin changes that. She then just goes along with ben but we all know she wants off the island.
Herc's guess by gnortsmra	Mar 13th, 2008 07:25:13 AM
I'm starting to think that (you-know-who) being the "man on the boat" is a red herring. The show runners know we're expecting him to be the spy and are conveniently leading us along, just to pull the rug out from under us. My guess is that it might be our favorite one-eyed, hard-to-kill Ukrainian(?), or maybe, just maybe,a recovering heroin addict that we believe to be dead.
Man on the boat by Miyamoto_Musashi	Mar 13th, 2008 07:27:14 AM
Really Really hope it isn't michael
Sorry last comment should have had spoiler by Miyamoto_Musashi	Mar 13th, 2008 07:29:57 AM
well possible spoiler
Not Ready For Desmond to Leave the Island Yet by Youguysgotanymilk	Mar 13th, 2008 07:33:14 AM
Anyone else thinking that somehow Desmond is going to find his way back to the island before the O6 get off? His storyline and his relationship with Penny is too strong to end already (or at the end of this season). I think, since we know Widmore is responsible for the ship, maybe he will instruct his crew to refuse to allow Desmond to leave the island. So somehow he will be dupped into going back to the island and being stuck there. I like Desmond, and I want him to be reunited with Penny, just not yet!
TAPE LOST, WATCH REAPER! by chrth	Mar 13th, 2008 07:39:37 AM
I mean, there's no reason to watch Lost live unless you want to post while watching it, and who wants to be labelled an uber-nerd? By taping Lost (and watching Reaper), you can fast forward through commercials, do a quick rewind for those WTF moments, and generally, enjoy Lost all the more. PS: Tape Lost, Watch Reaper
Not really spoiler by rbrog77	Mar 13th, 2008 07:40:29 AM
I think we could call that spec rather than spoiler, Musashi. I mean, you're just hoping it isn't him, not saying for certain it is him. Personally, I think it's the heroin addict. If they can pull Cooper out of a car crash and bring him to the island, why can't they pull Charlie out of a hatch full of water? ...and I know...they said he was dead. Even Charlie himself said he was dead.........after he died.
Top 5 Most Shocking "Man on the Boat" by Youguysgotanymilk	Mar 13th, 2008 07:43:37 AM
We all know who it probably will be but what if it wasn't? Who would be the biggest shock? Remember, it has to be someone Locke would have to "sit down for" #5 Walt #4 Widmore #3 Mikahl #2 Christian Sheppard #1...."The Little Man in the Boat" Just kidding...how about Locke's Dad (I don't know how, but it's Lost. Anything is possible.
This show kicks balls by Mr. Mcpoops	Mar 13th, 2008 07:45:48 AM
and you can quote me on that.
Desmond's Fate by Miyamoto_Musashi	Mar 13th, 2008 07:47:24 AM
I can see him in detention elsewhere at Widmore's request, duped of the freighter to another boat, imprisoned somewhere, would be interesting to add a third main location to the mix. Season 5 seeing Desmond confronted by his new prison before being rescued by Sayid who is looking for Widmore. Desmond then finds out that Penny has gone to the Island and is looking for him, Penny's boat has been out of contact though. In a flash foward Desmond sees Penny killed by Locke on the island. So a determined Desmond knows that he has to go back. The show might then become very Desmond focus. But there is nothing wrong with that brutha.
chirth by rbrog77	Mar 13th, 2008 07:49:03 AM
Watch Reaper while you can. Looks like in another talkback today they are saying it's probably cancelled. Not a good showing, especially this year in the strike shortenned season where networks are basically renwing a lot of shows despite the ratings. So if it's okay with you, I'll watch Lost live, then rewatch it later.
rbrog77: no it's not ok with me by chrth	Mar 13th, 2008 07:55:22 AM
TAPE LOST, WATCH REAPER
I'll get right on that by rbrog77	Mar 13th, 2008 07:57:47 AM
riiiiiiiigggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh hhttttttttttt
Welp, there goes my day. by pizzatheface	Mar 13th, 2008 07:57:55 AM
This talkback is going to own my day again. And I'm getting evaluated at work. (It was a nice job.)
rbrog by edshrinker	Mar 13th, 2008 07:58:25 AM
AWESOME- Begins the new TB. Can't wait to read the 800 posts when I get home from work. No - caught your post. Its what made me catch what was said on the podcast. I should have given you credit for mentioning it earlier. I was more excited to be able to throw in another line about Juliet's rack and Claire's ass. But we are thinking on the same lines. The reason I got on smut was the posts were close together (albeit 8 hours apart and he copied and pasted THE EXACT SAME THING and that was all, so he obviously poted without reading...a pet peeve of mine. It's cool - not like I flamed him, he's had solid posts and seems like a good guy. Just my 2 cents. same lines
Musashi by Youguysgotanymilk	Mar 13th, 2008 07:58:44 AM
I like your Desmond theory. Having Penny being on the island and Desmond having to face his fears and return to the place he was stuck for so long, in order to save her would be in interesting part of the Lost story. After the season 2 finale, I always sort of thought Desmond getting back to Penny would be the main story arch. I can see him and Jack teaming up to go back to the island. Jack and Desmond simultaneously "We have to go baaaaaaaaaaaaack! Brotha".
Yeah hot Asian Girl episode tonight by Miyamoto_Musashi	Mar 13th, 2008 08:10:10 AM
Living in Japan, am very partial to an Asian "lass" (as Desmond would say). So always looking forward to a Sun episode, prefer Japanese but don't mind Korean girls either, except Korean girls look at most guys as a walking wallet.
This is getting to be more Desmond's story by Bobman46	Mar 13th, 2008 08:14:53 AM
Sure we know and care about the other people on the island but Desmond is the only one with something to get off the island for really. Half of them want off but Desmond needs to get off the island. By all the rules of by the book storytelling, he has a clear arc. I think anyway....discuss
A quick rant about America by Miyamoto_Musashi	Mar 13th, 2008 08:16:59 AM
As an outsider I can't understand why the lead story I am seeing is about some politician screwing a lady from the oldest profession. Isn't your economy tanking ? Aren't you loosing thousands of lives and trillions of dollars on a war that was based on bad/fabricated intelligence? Well if nothing else from an outsider's point of view its quite entertaining, keep it up, though not as entertaining as Lost . The new slogan for America "We are broke and dying, but at least we make great TV, pass me another Bud"
by zer0cool2k2	Mar 13th, 2008 08:17:12 AM
Dae Han (from Best of the Best) as Shopkeeper. this will be the greatest LOST episode ever. (although it will be hard to top last week's).
Man on Boat! Man on Boat! by gnortsmra	Mar 13th, 2008 08:24:29 AM
rbrog77-- Cooper, huh? Now that's someone I hadn't thought of. He fits all the criteria (we already met him, would be a shocker, and Locke would have to sit down for it). I wonder?
Miyamoto_Musashi, I can explain by rbrog77	Mar 13th, 2008 08:29:55 AM
We're shallow and sensationalistic. News about the constitution being flaunted by our government? Give us a story about Brittney. Dollar tanking? What's that? Lindsey Lohan is back in rehab? Bad news on the war politicians got us into? Well lookie there, another politician is caught cheating on his wife. ooooooooo....and this time it's another one with another hooker. See told you they were all bad. And we are so much better than them and now feel so much better about ourslves.
gnortsmra by rbrog77	Mar 13th, 2008 08:31:53 AM
Actually, I think it's Charlie. Mhy point was if they can get coop out of a wreck as he's dying, why can't they get Charlie out of a hatch when he's drowning?
Re: A quick rant about America by Fawst	Mar 13th, 2008 08:34:01 AM
Obviously we are about to invade Iran. The head of CentCom just retired. American Idol is in full swing. And now we have the NY State Gov. going down in flames because he paid for sex. We are being distracted from reality. The dollar is nearly worthless, so the government will print more out of thin air to inject into the economy. Our leaders are talking tough about Iran, yet they all claim that absolutely no one wants to go to war... but it's not off the table. Ladies and gentlemen, we are heading for a collapse of epic proportions. And we are being distracted with trivialities. Welcome to the new millennium.
thanks rborg77 by Miyamoto_Musashi	Mar 13th, 2008 08:34:14 AM
for the explanation, I should say that perhaps I came across as complaining too much, whereas I should have been driving the point that its incredibly entertaining. A tv show called "America" is got to be better than the recent Knight Rider effort.
Chrth by ProoferFromHell	Mar 13th, 2008 08:36:53 AM
How about tape Lost, tape Reaper at the same time (you can do that with these new DVRs, you know), watch Lost live with the uber-geeks of the Lost talkbacks, rewind Lost many times to rewatch the WTF moments while discussing said WTF moments on the Talkback, then watch Reaper after coming down from the Lost high, say Saturday or Sunday? Yeah, works for me.
So after China buys the US will they still show Lost? by Miyamoto_Musashi	Mar 13th, 2008 08:37:28 AM
Sorry couldnt resist. I can safely say that when china does buy the US and brigns along their censorship regime, that scene of Juliet in a bikini is bound to be cut.
And when I say uber-geek by ProoferFromHell	Mar 13th, 2008 08:38:40 AM
I refer to myself before any else!
Juliet's bikini bottom shot is still ....(thump) Lost by Miyamoto_Musashi	Mar 13th, 2008 08:39:09 AM

rbrog77 by gnortsmra	Mar 13th, 2008 08:59:20 AM
I agree. Charlie's certainly more likely. Although, having Cooper show up after Sawyer strangles him would probably have as much of an impact.
The man on the boat is Michael. by pizzatheface	Mar 13th, 2008 09:07:17 AM
Pause last weeks teaser: Can Charlie grow a fro like that? Personally, I think it's Scott. (Or is it Steve?)
As far as Reaper goes... by pizzatheface	Mar 13th, 2008 09:09:31 AM
...it was a good show while it lasted (Sock rules). But I would rather watch a new Lost live than a re-run of Reaper.
man with 'fro by gnortsmra	Mar 13th, 2008 09:18:33 AM
just because they show the back of someone's head, and that someone has an afro, doesn't mean that's the spy on the boat. it just means effective editing of the teaser.
Must be Thursday by Fount of Useless Info	Mar 13th, 2008 09:25:27 AM
The day moves slowly, and I'm desperate for my talkback login to work (which it did for the first time this week, fortunately) so that I can get nothing done all day long.
Ben's Man on the Boat by Booster Gold Lives	Mar 13th, 2008 09:38:41 AM
It's incredibly predictable if it's Michael. Perrineau's name has been in the opening credits since this season's first episode, so for the viewers (who pay attention to that), that won't be a shock. Now, if it's a GROWN-UP Walt, that WOULD be a shock, for both us and for Locke -- plus, it would solve the problem of aging Malcolm Kelly, since you could have an adult Walt in the "present" and use Kelly in flashbacks (i.e. next week's presumed "how'd that happen?" episode). I guess, when it's all said and done, Michael is still an interesting twist (so long as next week's payoff pays off), but I'd be pleasantly shocked if they went with an older Walt.
us americans are easily distracted by the media by smokie	Mar 13th, 2008 09:40:24 AM
thats why I don't pay any attention to to news media. Instead I waste all my time being distracted by this crazy fuckin show.
pizzatheface: it's a new ep of Reaper tonight by chrth	Mar 13th, 2008 09:41:28 AM
At least according to my DVR
What if it's locke on the boat? by smokie	Mar 13th, 2008 09:43:32 AM
He would definately have to sit down for that.
ABC'S SYNOPSIS IS NOT A "SPOILER"! by uss cygnus	Mar 13th, 2008 09:43:39 AM
WTF? Is this tvguide.com now? HOW IS THIS A SPOILER?
I care by alex138	Mar 13th, 2008 09:43:45 AM
more about who is going to die on Lost tonight than whether Hillary, Obama, or McCain get elected as president.
Frieghter spy issues by Fount of Useless Info	Mar 13th, 2008 09:46:31 AM
Don't read further if you don't want to see speculative spoilers, sorta spoilers and the ramblings of a far too obsessed fan. Just a warning. People keep going on and on about how "Michael is too easy" and it would be more exciting if it were someone else. I think that misses the big picture here. Michael may not be a shock to us because (a) we see his name in the credits and (b) we're a bunch of Lost obsessed Uber-geeks to borrow Proofer's term fro earlier. To many people who watch but don't spend the same amount of time thinking and talking about it, it will be a shock. More importantly, it will be a bigger shock to the people of the show. While Michael left almost 2 years ago in our viewing time, it's probably been less than a month (not sure on exact dates) since he sailed away. That means that Michael had to sail away, find rescue, go home, hide his identity, be recruited by Ben to be a spy, manipulate his way onto the freighter, and sail back on the freighter, all within 30 days or so. This isn't exactly a reasonable assumption. The bigger questions here are how it is possible for Michael to be on the boat and why he works for Ben. None of this comes as much of a surprise to anyone who read Doc Jensen's tease for this week's episode where he asks these same questions and suggests a time-travelling Michael caused by how Ben told him to leave the island as one of the answers. I suggested a similar theory on here after "The Constant", but that EW jerk stole it from me and published it. (Before anyone asks, that's a joke not paranoia or any other sort of delusion.) A theory like this also explains why Walt got bigger so quickly. To most people it's been a month or so, but for him it's probably around 2 or 3 years. I just don't see how it can be considered a let down if the guy on the boat is Michael. We will clearly have a million things to learn in the next episode about what happened and it finally brings back Waaaaaaaaaaalt and the possibility for Michael to make up for what he has done.
BOMBSHELL NO SPOILERS by Vorlagen	Mar 13th, 2008 09:48:38 AM
No spoilers here: Over at DarkUFO popular Lost blogger docarzt just dropped this bombshell: "The oceanic six were never confirmed, and never guessed correctly. The story is unfolding exactly as intended... and there is a great deal of inner facetiousness behind saying the Oceanic 6 is too obvious... because... it's not. ;) Beware long held beliefs." This is referring to the fact that many Lost sites leaked the identities of the O6 quite some time ago (before the season even stated). Docarzt has definitely seen the first 8 episodes, so unless he's lying about this, TPTB might have pulled the ol' fake leaked information scam (although the first 4 members of the O6 already introduced have been correct). Just for those of you who know what the leaked spoilers were, and to let everyone else out there know that no one really knows!
Booster Gold by gnortsmra	Mar 13th, 2008 09:50:45 AM
You're right-- it would be predictable, and it had already been widely reported that Perrineau would be back for S4 before we saw it on the opening (guess that check from 28 weeks later didn't last long). I find the grown-up Walt idea interesting and plausible, since they established a week or two ago that the passage of time works differently on the island, so he could, in theory, be on the boat. However, I'm sticking with my pick for Charlie or Mikhail as "Ben's man" on the boat.
Vorlagen by Fount of Useless Info	Mar 13th, 2008 09:51:39 AM
Not sure just how much of that info to believe, but that would be kind of cool if all the spoiler info people had been fed was in fact foilers.
it's Michael on the goddamn boat! by smokie	Mar 13th, 2008 09:55:25 AM
Let's stop setting ourselves up for disappointment.
uss cygnus: methinks you missed the Invisotext by chrth	Mar 13th, 2008 09:57:19 AM

I hope I don't know the identity by Jor-El23	Mar 13th, 2008 09:59:54 AM
if i was mislead with spoilers that would be alright.
Fount of Useless Info by Vorlagen	Mar 13th, 2008 10:07:21 AM
The poster (docarzt) has never given anyone any reason to doubt him... The entire nature of possible deaths and the identities of the O6 were called into question by his statements as well..... I guess we'll see how things unfold.
Ben's Man on the Boat by Youguysgotanymilk	Mar 13th, 2008 10:12:09 AM
I guess for the casual Lost fan Michael would be a huge shock. For us super Lost fans we have seen it coming for a long time. It can still be interesting to see how he became the man on the boat and what happened to Walt. I was talking with my parents last night about tonight's episode and I mentioned that "tonight we find out who Ben's man is." I followed this by saying "but everyone already knows who that is going to be." My parents have no idea who it is going to be. They are fans of Lost and have seen every episode. But they do not go on the interent or do anything outside of watching it. I almost told them that it will probably be Michael and I stopped myself. I thought, man how great would it be to be completely suprised by omething like that. I was jealous of the fact that they do not know what is going to happen each week. I would be nice to watch each episode spoiler free, but I cant stand the wait. I still dont like spoilers, just teasers. I like to know a little about what will happen but not the details.
Speculation on Tonights Death by dreamwriter1888	Mar 13th, 2008 10:25:50 AM
I think either Sun or Jin die in their flashforward tonight...either that or we have the flashforward with one of them (probably Jin) and a baby and the other is already dead (Sun maybe during child birth). So maybe (if that's the case) Jin and his kid are the remaining 2 Oceanic 6, or it was Sun and Jin as the last 2 before 1 died. What do you guys think? And for those who start saying "huh, what death" check this link and the very final tidbit at the end. http://tiny.cc/4paDd
A little late, but Spoiler Above by dreamwriter1888	Mar 13th, 2008 10:27:50 AM

Dont You Idiots Read "Invisotext"? by Frodo T. Baggins	Mar 13th, 2008 10:30:47 AM
Yee Shall See Your Spy
tonight's death by alex138	Mar 13th, 2008 10:35:21 AM
Maybe they will hit us with two deaths. Jin in the flash forward and then since we think everything is all safe- Claire gets tossed out a helicopter in the closing seconds. Hope not, though, because I like Claire's tight jeans this season.
My death theory by Youguysgotanymilk	Mar 13th, 2008 10:42:08 AM
I'm still betting on the fact that someone will get killed in a flash forward. How crazy would it be to know one of the characters is going to die in the future but we still see them alive on the island. It would have as much emotional impact as the finale last year were we see Jack a miserable wreck.
It would be cool if Des made it off the island by CrichtonAstronut	Mar 13th, 2008 10:44:13 AM
and was involved in the flashforward arc, with Sayid killing Ben's enemies(probably Widmore's people) and Jack and Hurley freakin out. Would he help his future father in law or would he and Penny run away from the whole mess? And what about his time trips? And is Penny on Sayid's list
Here's a weird thought. What if that guy in the by CrichtonAstronut	Mar 13th, 2008 10:49:20 AM
flash forwards who visited Hurley, and sent Naomi in the falshback, Walt grown up. Maybe there was a time shift thing and he ended up in the past.
This is one episode I DON'T wanna read ANY inviso-text. by Cheif Brody	Mar 13th, 2008 10:50:33 AM
This is the episode Darlton wanted to have as the Season 4 break...which means it's gonna be one of those "HOLY FUCKIN' SHIT...I CAN"T BELIEVE MY EYES JUST SAW THAT!!" endings. I wanna be surprised tonight. So I'm gonna limit my visits here today...so I can avoid the accidental reading of tea leaves that I can't unread. Can't wait to see all the shocking reveals tonight. Hopefully it will be 10 great reveals and only 7 or so questions raised!! But...fuck...who am I kidding?!! This is LOST!! Is it 9pm yet?
Lots to respond to... by Fount of Useless Info	Mar 13th, 2008 11:32:05 AM
Work may slow down for the Lost talkback, but I still had to go to lunch. A man's gotta have his priorities straight. A few responses: Vorlagen: You're right, we haven't ever had reason to mistrust docartz. I was trying to find the info, where is it at DarkUFO? Gnortsmra: They didn't establish that time passes differently on the island than off it. The only thing that was established is that time passes differently as one enters or exits the island (rocket and helicopter). It's 2004 everywhere, at least for a week or so. For Walt to be grown up, he would have to have gone backwards in time. Otherwise, it would have to be a later year and Penny would have been all screwed up about how many years she been looking for Desmond. Node: I think the idea of the bodies is an indication that whoever is responsible for the cover up is fairly powerful and not to be messed with, but I suppose we already knew that. Youguysgotanymilk: First, that's an awesome name. Second, I agree that part of the issue is how hardcore we are, but I still think the shocker about Michael is the how rather than the who. See my post like 9 or 10 above you. No spoilers in it other than what you already stated and some theory. Brody: Nothing in the invisotext is really a spoiler other than the one that has been discussed non-stop on here today. I saw a quote earlier for DL or CC that said basically "Yes, everyone knows who it is, but hang on because there are 10 minutes left in the episode." That sounds like there should be some moments that we really aren't expecting. I hope that's true. Ok, I think that's everything. Now I just have to worry about the posts that were written while I was writing this.
Me too Cheif Brody! by Ashok0	Mar 13th, 2008 11:35:50 AM
This episode is looking to be AMAZING!!! Desmond + Zoe "The Bride" Bell + Spy on Freighter = Jaw dropping episode? Seriously, with The Wire gone, LOST is the BEST show on TV.
Yeah, thanks for the epiphany Miyamoto by malificus	Mar 13th, 2008 11:53:13 AM
Tell us all something else we don't know, like what exactly does Joe Average DO about a country where the vote is a fraud, the money is completely useless, the leaders are all criminals-perverts or worse and you get arrested and disappeared for nothing more than exercising rights that were once guaranteed but are now forfeit. Yes wise one, save us from ourselves.
roll on tomorrow by Maximus Prime	Mar 13th, 2008 11:53:22 AM
U lucky lucky foreigners..
Fount of Useless Info / docarzt quotes by Vorlagen	Mar 13th, 2008 11:53:47 AM
http://tinyurl.com/3cufqy This is the article that raised some confusion, and docarzt has 2 comments the comments section, each being very confusing in their own right. There are spoilers through this link, so be careful.
Fount of Useless Info / Cheif Brody by Vorlagen	Mar 13th, 2008 11:55:02 AM
The exact quotation is: ''Yes, we know you have all figured out who Ben's man on the boat is. But once we've confirmed that for you, there's still TEN MINUTES OF SHOW LEFT.''
Wow, I feel really stupid now. by Youguysgotanymilk	Mar 13th, 2008 12:07:27 PM
When I read the quote at the top about "324 dead bodies" I didn't even think about the fake wreck. I was thinking about the mass Dharma grave. I guess there weren't 324 bodies in that grave. I guess there are a lot of things on my mind right now. Like how much of Juliet's cans we will get to see in tonight's episode. Which reminds me. Does the quote about Juliet lying refer to her cans being real or not?...I think they are real, and they are spectacular!
Vorlagen by Fount of Useless Info	Mar 13th, 2008 12:10:29 PM
Thanks for finding the quote and the docarzt comments. Those were very cryptic and could mean a huge change for what everyone thinks is going to happen.
Docartz comments..possible spoilers by Youguysgotanymilk	Mar 13th, 2008 12:15:33 PM
So if the final O6 are not Jin and Sun (or is only half right) who is the other person? Does her baby count? He wasn't on the plane. So who is it? I guess i dont really want to know, I want to be surprised and I am hoping that the spoilers I read about the O6 are not true. that would eb great.
Question about a picture by Youguysgotanymilk	Mar 13th, 2008 12:17:19 PM

Didn't finish that by Youguysgotanymilk	Mar 13th, 2008 12:18:42 PM
If you go to www.lost.com there is a picture on the main page of Jack talking with Christian. Anyone know when that picture is from? I don't remeber seeing that scene.
Michael centric episode?! by -guyinthebackrow	Mar 13th, 2008 12:21:18 PM
That's cool news.
"Tonight, on tonight's episode..." by 3D-Man	Mar 13th, 2008 12:25:48 PM
Herc, did you really write that?? Sheesh!!! LOST Rocks!!!!
Man on the Boat by PotSmokinAlien	Mar 13th, 2008 12:26:10 PM
I too, think Michael is the probable choice. But what if it's Sayid? Think about it-- Ben did say he had a man on the boat before Sayid left the island on the chopper, but what if Ben and Sayid had made a deal--as yet unseen to us--on the island before Sayid left? That kind of half-truth is classic Ben, "I have a man on the boat.. well not yet.. but I will." We did see that Sayid is working for Ben in the flash-fwds, after all... maybe that info was more than just a dramatic twist. If Sayid's the man on the boat, his agreement to be so could be the beginning of his service to Ben..... But yeah. It'll probably be Michael (or Walt).
Okay, so it was "Tonight, on tonight's Kwon-centric installment. by 3D-Man	Mar 13th, 2008 12:27:27 PM
But still. I'm just sayin'.
It's Scott/Steve on the boat. by pizzatheface	Mar 13th, 2008 12:32:54 PM
You all know it. Own up.
Desmondo by pumaman	Mar 13th, 2008 12:35:20 PM
I know he's not one of ' the 6 ' but he damn well better have a happy ending when this show wraps up. He's the best character by miles.
pumaman by Fount of Useless Info	Mar 13th, 2008 12:36:53 PM
So, which do you think is the best character Desmond or Miles? Stop trying to confuse me.
confusion ensues by pumaman	Mar 13th, 2008 12:38:25 PM
As soon as I'd typed that up , I realised this would happen :-) Desmond MUST live !!!!!!
fount and milk by gnortsmra	Mar 13th, 2008 12:40:03 PM
Fount-- I'm on the same boat (pardon the pun) as far as work and thursdays go. Good thing is half my dept. are fans, so we at least get to discuss on fridays. That being said, I think I wasn't clear in what I meant to say re: time on/off the island. They have (as you pointed out) established the 30 minutes or so differential between "island" time and the rest of the world. They've also shown Walt (whether intentional or not) having had a growth spurt. They could use these two to explain Walt being a bit older (we're talking MAYBE teens-- at best) and on the boat. Remember Sayid saying 2 weeks ago that he didn't realize it was Dec 24, and the helicopter ride seemed to Jack like it took a LOT longer (overnight, maybe?) than what we saw Des, Sayid and Lapidus experience. So, it's a POSSIBLE to explain having a slightly older Walt on the boat. Probable? That's a whole other kettle of fish. Milk-- Your comment on people surviving after leaving the island is a discussion I've had with a lot of people since the season started, esp. in light of the funeral hoem sequence. just because someone survived LEAVING the island, doesn't mean they'll stay alive in the real world. And, I would love seeing a character dying off-island in a flash forward, and then going back to tell the story on-island, with the viewer knowing this person's ultimate fate.
I thought Michael was a stick-up boy now by Jed	Mar 13th, 2008 12:40:26 PM
Omar RIP
GODAMMIT HERCULES!!! by thekylegassproject	Mar 13th, 2008 12:43:55 PM
i love ya man but watch it with fucking pulled quotes. that's a bit revealing don't you think? i wish you would do away with those quotes in the title.
gnortsmra by Vorlagen	Mar 13th, 2008 12:44:59 PM
No, they haven't established a 31 minute difference. They've established that based on the path the rocket took to get to the island, it was delayed by 31 minutes. However, the path that the helicopter took was delayed significantly more. We also need to explain why in the FFs they are so far in the future (ie, Aaron is older, etc). The Walt that appeared to Locke was also way older (taller ghost Walt). It's possible that leaving the island in different manners will create different time differences (it's not a stretch to imagine that people could end up ahead of island time by leaving---that is to say, journey backwards in time as they leave and end up earlier than when they left).
So, Troy was pretty great. by Ashok0	Mar 13th, 2008 12:47:24 PM
Heh.
vorlagen by gnortsmra	Mar 13th, 2008 12:54:40 PM
I disagree. The experiment was probably made to determine time on the island. No matter how far the rocket had to travel, if it made a wrong turn somewhere-- whatever-- is should have still landed showing the exact same time. The fact that there was a time difference on the both the experiment and the control watches indicates that time operates differently on and off the island. (This is a tangent to the highly flawed Emmett Brown temporal displacement theory) Although they haven't come out and said it, Flash forwards have not been at the same points in time (Jack with beard and severe drinking and pill problem screaming "we gotta go baaaack!!!", Jack clean-shaven and only needing an occassional drink, testifying at Kate's trial/hearing)
gnortsmra by Fount of Useless Info	Mar 13th, 2008 01:04:25 PM
I don't think we have seen that the time is really different. I'm too lazy to retype my entire theory of the temporal displacement moat surrounding the island (or to go find it in old talkbacks), but there is no evidence that it's not the exact same time in both places. The communication between both seems to indicate that. As does the fact that the incident when Desmond didn't press the button was recorded at the same date and time as the plane crash. September 22 2004 on the island was September 22 off the island. The same goes for December 24th on the island, on the freighter and in London. Things like the helicopter and the rocket don't take a wrong turn somewhere on the way to or from the island as much as they take a wrong turn somewhen.
Hooray Zoe Bell! by jimmy_009	Mar 13th, 2008 01:11:02 PM
Hopefully she's taken some acting classes from the last time we saw her!
Herc- Is Zoe Bell in any other eps? by NickCatal	Mar 13th, 2008 01:13:19 PM
Herc- if you have seen screeners for the other episodes, or otherwise know, is Zoe Bell going to become a regular this season or is this a one-time deal?
Damn Work. I missed MP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by edshrinker	Mar 13th, 2008 01:14:47 PM

JJ needs his good luck man by edshrinker	Mar 13th, 2008 01:19:16 PM
So.. Greg Grunberg, dressed in drag, is the on board "entertainment" for the crew (while still wearing the cheezy pilot's mustache). HE IS Ben's man on the boat. Just as he approaches Sayid for a lap dance, Sayid guts him in 2.3 seconds. LOST 'poom'
Seeing the light by CaptainTripps	Mar 13th, 2008 01:20:41 PM
As headfucked as I am by the time-shift question, I'm really anxious to hear more about the light-displacement issue on the Island. What did Farraday mean that light "lays differently" or whatever. I know thats a pretty petty topic considering everything else that's going on, but I'd like to know just the same. On and off the island looks the same on my TV!!!
I agree with Fount by Vorlagen	Mar 13th, 2008 01:23:20 PM
And your interpretation. Time passes the same on/off the island, but going between one and the other causes issues with spacetime.
Cpt. Tripps by Fount of Useless Info	Mar 13th, 2008 01:28:55 PM
Mine too. Maybe I need to switch to HDTV to see how the light doesn't scatter right. Then again, Faraday could just be completely nuts, but I'm betting it means something.
Guys this is the first time I think you need to stopped... by captboulder	Mar 13th, 2008 01:35:28 PM
over speculating about this episode! IF tonight is a jaw-dropper than you're gonna be slightly disappointed even IF you read spoilers or guess! Judging by the amount of hints, guesses, and whatnots on the thread this week, I think I have to talk to you guys tonite AFTER Lost! Like I stated last week, I don't care about spoilers or being spoiled because I bypass those with ease. However there just too much speculation going on that may "accidently" give something away! I don't know shit about Lost this year, except Mike returning! When and how he returns still remain a mystery to me and I'm keeping it that way! I'll check in later tonite!
Why?! by rutgersjaffo	Mar 13th, 2008 01:44:29 PM
Why in the hell do so many of you want to know in advance what happens on Lost? Get a life and watch it as it airs--HAVE SOME TRADITIONAL FUN NOW AND THEN YOU GOOBERS!!!!
rutgersjaffo by Vorlagen	Mar 13th, 2008 01:52:41 PM
Because it gives me something to do the other 167 hours in the week that Lost isn't on.
Gentlemen!!!!!!!!!!! by Maximus Prime	Mar 13th, 2008 01:55:48 PM
So now we are near the end of waht was teh proposed season for so long, how has season4 thus far been for everyone...we know we have 5 more now after next weeks but feelings so far freinds??? Personally, I think its been dam dam good, the quiet start of Hurley to the mad dash of Desmond, not to mention Farraday, Miles, mental Locke, disappearing cabins and some answers... as I said straight after episode 1 of season 4, there seems to be a different pacing to this season, it has kept it fresh, all we need now is some smokie to make this a great season so far.....come on Smokie give us a wave tonight
It's Rambo on the boat! by skywalkerfamily	Mar 13th, 2008 01:56:24 PM
Ben's man is Rambo!
Newly posted spoilers for Fount, & other by Vorlagen	Mar 13th, 2008 01:57:18 PM
http://tinyurl.com/yv7nh8 Unconfirmed but in line with what docarzt was saying earlier....
MP by Fount of Useless Info	Mar 13th, 2008 01:58:26 PM
It's been awesome...and with that, I must go to a meeting and do actual work.
Jacob is shy by skywalkerfamily	Mar 13th, 2008 02:02:43 PM
He only appears to certain people.
Juliet has some sweet cans and Claire has a nice ass by Mr. Mcpoops	Mar 13th, 2008 02:04:35 PM
I just want to boom boom in her zoom zoom. Or is it zoom zoom in her boom boom? I could go either way.
Mr. Mcpoops by Maximus Prime	Mar 13th, 2008 02:11:42 PM
Do both mate and let us know which was better....
Jin dies...great by Cap'n Jack	Mar 13th, 2008 02:16:09 PM
Now's my shot with Sun.
Jin Dies!?! by santi01	Mar 13th, 2008 02:22:26 PM
for reals?
Late, I know, but.... by rbrog77	Mar 13th, 2008 03:09:15 PM
MP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! S4's Ben faraday Clairing...or something like that .
Vorlagen by Fount of Useless Info	Mar 13th, 2008 03:38:52 PM
Missed your post up there with new info. Interesting rumor. That's pretty screwed up if true.
by Lone_Gunman	Mar 13th, 2008 03:40:32 PM
Just had a thought that came to me a moment ago regarding Jacob. I think Jacob is not exactly real in a sense he has his own body, rather he floats about in spirit (smoke monster maybe) then comes across Christian Shephard coffin, takes over the body. So in other words Jacob is residing in Christian body, but Christian as we know him is definitely dead (I seem to recall the producers was steadfast in saying thats Christian is dead period.) So Christian = Jacob. I know from while back a lot of people thought that, but I don't know if anyone bought up the theory thats Jacob is a spirit not a physical being. Of course I may be way of base here,am sure theres a few holes with this theory plus someone out else there may have thought the same thing and posted likewise. If so apologies.
don't we already have 5 survivors? by erendis	Mar 13th, 2008 03:46:01 PM
sayid, hurley, kate, jack, and baby aaron. are they saying the baby doesn't count as one of the "oceanic six"?
EW Doc Jenson E-Mail Article Part 1 by 4we8have15to16go23back42	Mar 13th, 2008 03:47:18 PM
I figured this would be easyer to read if I split it up. 'Lost': Michael's Coming Back...But How? Doc Jensen figures that the ex-castaway is Ben's freighter spy, but has theories on how that came to be. Plus: Lindelof talks Numbers By Jeff Jensen, an EW senior writer, has been despondent since the cancellation of ''Twin Peaks''THE TEASE! At exactly the 30-minute mark in tonight's episode, the strike-shortened fourth season of Lost will reach its halfway mark. At the 31-minute mark, we'll have seen more Lost this year than we will see for the rest of the year. And by the 60-minute mark, we'll have just six more episodes of Lost left until the show waddles into its cave for another nine-month nap. This kind of thinking makes me kinda sad. Didn't this season just start, like, yesterday? As Kool and the Gang taught us long ago, we should cherish the time we have. So I invite you to savor this, our sixth-to-last tease of the year, an enticing tidbit about ''Ji Yeon,'' tonight's Jin/Sun-angled installment of Lost, brought to you by executive producer Damon Lindelof: ''Yes, we know you have all figured out who Ben's man on the boat is. But once we've confirmed that for you, there's still TEN MINUTES OF SHOW LEFT.'' +++ Damon is undoubtedly responding to the fact that for several weeks now, all of us (or enough of us to create the impression of an ''all'') have assumed that our old friend Michael — the raft-building, desperate dad who killed Ana Lucia and Libby in order to get his abducted son back — is Ben's spy on the freighter. It's not like we're a bunch of great detectives. As reader Lenny Picker points out, Lost has been running the risk of ruining this reveal since announcing Harold Perrineau's return last summer. In fact, he's been listed in the credits for several episodes now! ''Speculation that he's Ben's man on the boat would have been less if everyone didn't know that Michael would return this season,'' writes Picker. ''Had he not been listed in the credits, his eventual appearance would have the dramatic impact the Lost creators intended.'' Picker says that a key revelation in last week's episode was similarly spoiled for him: ''The inclusion of Alan Dale [the actor who plays Charles Widmore, Penelope's father and Desmond's nemesis] in the credits in the last episode made it obvious that he was going to be the person behind the freighter.'' I know many of you feel the same way as Lenny. I share your small disappointment, to the degree that I find myself hoping against hope that we're being set up for a shocker. Like, wouldn't it be awesome if the spy actually turned out to be Sayid's lost love, Nadia? Or Charlie's ex-junkie rocker brother, Liam? Or even — my crazy conjecture of the week — a returned-from-the-dead Libby, resurrected via the magic of course correction? Still, I don't want to get your hopes up. All signs point to Michael. But spoiled surprise or no, there is some mystery surrounding his return to Lost, a riddle that can be summed up in one word: How? Think this through, my fellow Lost theorists: Michael's return to the Island defies storytelling logic. According to the well-researched timeline housed at lostpedia.org, Michael and Walt left the Island 67 days after the crash of Oceanic 815 — in other words, late November 2004. But the freighter has been offshore since mid-December. Surely it took longer than just a couple weeks for Ben to get Michael in position. So: How? How can Michael really be on that boat?
erendis by Vorlagen	Mar 13th, 2008 03:50:46 PM
They've confirmed a few times Aaron doesn't count. Didn't have a ticket on the plane.
EW Doc Jenson E-Mail Article Part 2 by 4we8have15to16go23back42	Mar 13th, 2008 03:51:30 PM
'Lost': Michael's Coming Back...But How? CONTROL FREAK Did Ben intentionally send Michael and Walt four years back in time? TIME TRAVEL: BACK TO THE FUTURE Theory: The coordinates Ben gave Michael and Walt led them not only to a place, but also to a time — in the near past. Weird Science explanation: The Island is located within a time-space anomaly that extends out into the ocean. Different points along the boundary of the anomaly lead to different places and/or different times. For example, after the chopper flew through the perimeter, Lapidus, Sayid, and Desmond landed on the freighter a full day after they left the Island, even though they had spent just 20 minutes in the air. Prediction: Ben intentionally sent Michael (and Walt) to a certain date in the past (I'm betting...four years ago) for the purpose of putting Michael in a position to serve as his freighter spy. To avoid the possibility of history-altering paradox — like, say, Michael seeking out his past self, or trying to prevent the crash of Oceanic 815 — Ben controlled him by holding Walt as leverage. Does this theory make sense? Absolutely. This take on time travel best explains the narrow gap between Michael's departure and his return. It would also explain how Walt grew into a strapping teenager. Estimated Chance of Accuracy: My money's on this one. 91% BORN AGAIN: A POCKET UNIVERSE THEORY OF LOST Theory: Michael and Walt left the Island...and were magically transformed into new people — people who may have never been passengers aboard Oceanic 815. Weird Science explanation: The Island could exist in its own pocket universe. In order for this place to exist within our world but remain separate from it, special accommodations are made. For example, when the Island swallowed up Oceanic 815, the outside world had to account for the disappearance of the passengers. Hence the wreckage at the bottom of the ocean, which may be the result of a cosmic conspiracy, not a human one. By this logic — if you can call it logic — the cosmos would have to come up with a continuity-smoothing solution for the reintroduction of Michael and Walt into a world in which they are technically dead. The answer: creating whole new identities for them. In this scenario, should Michael 2.0 and Walt 2.0 return to the fully contained pocket universe of the Island, they may or may not know the castaways (at least, not from personal experience), but the castaways would certainly remember them. Prediction: Michael's seeming anti-climactic return becomes supercharged with intrigue when he looks at Sayid and says, ''I'm sorry... Do I know you?'' Does this theory make sense? I could see this ''pocket universe'' business working. Yes, the producers have disavowed alternate-reality theory, but this is a form of alternate-reality theory that neutralizes the problems of paradox, the negation of life-and-death stakes, and the mutability of the flash-forward future. But it does rob Michael of a powerful motivation for returning to the Island: redeeming his murderous past by saving his friends. Estimated Chance of Accuracy: Too convoluted — AND I LOVE IT. But whatever explanation Lost comes up with for Michael's return, earning his redemption MUST be an issue. 43%
Cap'n Jack..weak game brutha by smutpeddlar	Mar 13th, 2008 03:54:15 PM
fucking weak..i hope your pulling shit outta your ass..i really enjoy comming to the lost talkbacks,putting a MAJOR SPOILER in the subject line is fucking weak
Jin Doesn't Die by Ashok0	Mar 13th, 2008 04:02:10 PM
I heard Claire died... then again, I heard that Rose, Bernard, Sawyer, or Juliet could die too. I honestly have no idea. Heck, I guess it could be Jin.
Man on the boat spec by rbrog77	Mar 13th, 2008 04:03:27 PM
If it's not who we think or have so far specked it is, and considering the length of time that has passed since we last saw these speced people, then who? Ethan? Richard? Boone? Someone from a flashback? Maybe Dave? The guy that conned Sawyer into killing the wrong guy? The other Korean Assassin? Kelvin? 4 hours and counting.
EW Doc Jenson E-Mail Article Part 3 by 4we8have15to16go23back42	Mar 13th, 2008 04:06:40 PM
READER MAIL! First thing's first: Yes, you got me — it's Obi-WAN, not Obi-WON. But you know, it SHOULD be Obi-Won, don't you think? ''Wan'' is just so...wan. Still, I goofed, and so to atone for my fanboy sin, I'm making it up to you in the form of some scoop from Damon Lindelof about the Numbers — complete with a cool, fact-checked Star Wars reference. Wizard! But first, some other burning questions — and answers: ''Doc: Harold Perrineau is the spy...but maybe he's actually the grown-up Walt! The vector that Ben sent them on may have caused them to lose 15 years. Thoughts?'' —Bill Bill: Good one! Let's make that Possibility Number 3! ''My theory is that Ben's spy on the boat is...Ben. Here's why. We don't know that the freighter and the Island are happening at the same time. Maybe the freighter is in the future. Also, when Ben tells Locke who the spy is, he tells him to sit down — which you would definitely say if you were telling someone you can travel through time. People keep saying Ben is right where he wants to be — that is, in captivity — so no one can see when he goes catatonic as he time travels. It would explain how he knows so much of what's going on even though he's a prisoner. What do you think? Maybe this is impossible, but it would be fun.'' —Will Will: Your last sentence sums up my reaction — probably impossible, definitely fun. ''In 'The Constant,' when Charles Widmore was in the bathroom with Desmond and turned on the faucet, he very purposely used a towel so that he wouldn't touch the knob directly. Later, when Desmond touched the faucet directly with his hand, he was 'transported' to another time. Do you have any theories on the significance of this?'' —Maria S. Maria S: Your curiosity about Widmore's curious bathroom routine is shared by a number of readers. I can't quite recall Chuck's paper-towel act (he's probably just a big germaphobe), but I definitely saw what other people saw: that Penelope's papa left the water running. Many have suspected that Widmore was keenly aware that Desmond was time-trippin' and somehow knew that by leaving the water on for Desmond to turn off, it would trigger another quantum leap. Maybe water serves as a kind of activation for cross-time consciousness transfer, at least for Desmond. But here's another idea. I think Widmore knows the future — some or all of it. He's used this foreknowledge to build his financial empire. Now, the example of Desmond has shown us that those who have flashes of the future, and wish to facilitate that future, become slaves to predestination, because in order to get the desired outcome, you must make sure that the flashes play out in real life EXACTLY as you see them. So maybe the reason Widmore left the water running was simply because that was the way it HAD to happen, per his knowledge of future events. Even if I'm wrong about applying this theory to the bathroom business, I think the theory itself holds: Papa Widmore knows the future, and it drives everything he does. ''Jeff: I am convinced that Harper, as she appeared in the jungle, was indeed a manifestation of Smokey/the Island. What is your opinion on this matter?'' —CS Clay: You are not alone. Many of you e-mailed suggesting the possibility that Harper could be the Monster. Was Harper's profession a clue? Harper was an all-knowing psychotherapist — and Smokey has the power to probe minds. I have long argued that Smokey is capable of taking human form, and more, that he/she/it has more on its cloudy mind than just killing castaways. Smokey could be manipulating our heroes toward various ends, much like the Island's other resident evil, Ben. Which suggests a possibility: Is Ben a manifestation of Smokey? Or, put another way: Is Smokey a manifestation of Ben? Tune in next week when I put some more flesh on this theory.
It would be rad... by Lurker Johnson	Mar 13th, 2008 04:10:30 PM
if Richard Alpert was Ben's man on the boat. Alas, he's with the Others, wherever the hell they are.
EW Doc Jenson E-Mail Article Part 4 by 4we8have15to16go23back42	Mar 13th, 2008 04:12:00 PM
''I was wondering about The Numbers. Are we going to find out the meaning behind them?'' —Amy Amy: A couple years ago, Lost staged an alternate-reality game called ''The Lost Experience'' that, with great fanfare, provided an answer to this mystery. The Numbers (4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42) are values in a mathematical formula called the Valenzetti Equation, which was designed to estimate the date in which (cue dramatic music) the world as we know it will come to an end. The Dharma Initiative was trying to harness the powers of the Island to change the equation so as to prolong the life of the world. Now, we've also seen how the Numbers play an almost supernatural role in Hurley's life. However, ''The Lost Experience'' didn't address that. Personally, I have become content with accepting the Numbers as a thematic idea — an inexplicable but dramatically potent manifestation of fate, fatalism, and freaky phenomena that defies easy understanding. But I can understand why other fans might want a more concrete explanation. So: Will the show ever give us specific Numbers resolution? I ran the question by Damon Lindelof, and here's what he had to say: ''There will be more ON the Numbers, yes. But explaining WHY and HOW they are magic is like trying to explain why some magic kids are born to two muggles. The Valenzetti Equation USES those numbers, but trust me, they were around LONG before the early '60s. But for fans waiting for an advanced dissertation on the mythic significance of the numbers, I direct them to Qui-Gon Jinn's speech to Shmi Skywalker regarding midichlorians and pose the following question: Happy now?'' Point taken! And with that, we bring another Doc Jensen column to a close. I spend my Thursdays returning e-mail, although I answer older e-mails first, so be patient. Send your theories and questions to JeffJensenEW@aol.com. And I'll be here tomorrow morning to recap tonight's episode. Namaste! —Doc J
Numbers by 4we8have15to16go23back42	Mar 13th, 2008 04:16:34 PM
I like what Damon Lindelof said about the numbers at the end.
lol @ America bashers. by hefferee	Mar 13th, 2008 04:34:12 PM
Um, I'm a twentysomething American who's lived in the U.S., New Zealand, South Africa, China, and the Uk for more than 3 months each over the last few years. Come to America or cross the street and then feed us your bogus opinions. Is it a decent place to live? yes. How 'bout we get back to talking about Lost now. An American produced show on an American based website that doesn't need to be thinly bashed by an international communitiy that is showing it doesn't know shit about the place.
Just so you know by rbrog77	Mar 13th, 2008 04:50:58 PM
I live in NC. Have most of my life.
Damn rbrog by edshrinker	Mar 13th, 2008 05:15:13 PM
I know I got the hint we were roughly neighbors, but I hadn't a clue we were in the same state. Did you mention once being at Bragg or was that someone else? Where about are you? I'm in Pinehurst, Course 6 on the par 3 13th. If you golf (I play seldom, but with a 12-pack I can be persuaded) I can get any course (even Pinehurst 2) for $5. smutpeddlar, I couldn't agree more. Cap't, that was low. It's bad enough (and I have screwed the pooch on this for which I heartily apologized) to pput in in the text witout a spoiler warning, but to put that in a title is not cool. I know somw that stayed disciplined enough to NOT know who the O6 were. Then to drop the death ou there...I hope you are wrong so no one feels cheated. But PLEASE in the future, WARN with some spoiler text, ok?
edshrinker by Maximus Prime	Mar 13th, 2008 05:33:55 PM
cap'n'jack...always does that on these talkbacks, he is a piece of shit..he wil do it for attention instead of looking at his own little miserable life and ruin it for himself he will try to ruin our show for us... go fuck urself Jack...
on that note by Maximus Prime	Mar 13th, 2008 05:34:35 PM
i'll see u all tomorrow after I get to watch it in the evening... namaste
MP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by edshrinker	Mar 13th, 2008 05:42:36 PM

Be ready to bring it MP! by edshrinker	Mar 13th, 2008 05:43:02 PM

A new series that explains all the abandoned arcs. by Pixelsmack	Mar 13th, 2008 05:43:44 PM
That's what we need. "UnLost" is what it could be called. It goes through all the story points that they never finished or seemed to dead-end on purpose. There are 100s of them.
If what I read is true by edshrinker	Mar 13th, 2008 05:50:58 PM
We may also get an idea of what Ben was referring to when he told Sayid he shouldn't think with he heart, but with his gun...and this person may not have died. Just speculation, but it all makes perfect sense now. TWO HOURS! Remember, if you miss is, check THE Pirate Bay and do a search under edshrinker and I should have the commercicaless episode in Mp4 or wmv for your viewing pleasure, I'll also have a better dvd version up a little after that. PEACE!! and Enjoy.
FOrgot to mention by edshrinker	Mar 13th, 2008 05:52:10 PM
I'll have it up about 1 1/2 hours after it airs.
Four We Ate by edshrinker	Mar 13th, 2008 05:56:34 PM
Were you referring to this quote: "I direct them to Qui-Gon Jinn's speech to Shmi Skywalker regarding midichlorians" If so - my god I couln't agree more. Why Lucas felt the need to take away the mystery surrounding the force by making it a simple element of biology... I wouldn't mind if after season6 there are still questions for us to ponder. And maybe for them to make a movie around ;D
Wow shrinker by rbrog77	Mar 13th, 2008 05:59:37 PM
That's pretty close....and course 6 is a very nice area. Im in Raleigh. Used to play in Pinehurst, but not golf. Former musician. Played with BofOz late 80's for about 6 years (learned to play golf with them), left them to play with Cream of Soul. Got out of the business (and fucked up an arm and totally killed my backswing) and into pharma research about 10 years ago where I'm now a trainer. And they said the drugs we did as musicians were a waste of time. ;->
edshrinker by 4we8have15to16go23back42	Mar 13th, 2008 06:09:12 PM
I was refering to that and the Lindelhoff paragraph above it.
Spoilers ahoy by thejwac	Mar 13th, 2008 06:12:00 PM
Jin has a flashback Sun has a flashforward. This isn't revealed until the end. It's Michael on the boat. Bleepinggeek.com proves it: http://www.bleepinggeek.com/in dex.php?option=com_content&tas k=view&id=135&Itemid=0
Oh and by thejwac	Mar 13th, 2008 06:13:22 PM
Spoiler. . . . Jin dies
Pixelsmack: Wouldn't "Found" make better sense as a title? by chrth	Mar 13th, 2008 06:16:13 PM
WATCH REAPER Y'ALL!
rbrog by edshrinker	Mar 13th, 2008 06:17:21 PM
Coincidences continue. I use alot of pharmaceuticals! Seriously, through college in Wisconsin and NC I played in bands for 10 years. No one you've heard of, though I have a notebook full of original music from stuff I wrote during those years. Played guitar and did some singing. Covered some VH, STP , FooFighters, Zep, Who, Stones, - the essentials. God - I'm not sure if I know how to pick up a guitar now. And I have a full digital recording studio on my computer. Keep promising I will sit down and record all my originals (for better or worse) just to have them somewhere than rotten cassettes. Whaddya play? I did some acoustic work at Dugan's Pub in Pinehurst. Maybe we could throw it together sometime for fun. Call ourselves The Valenzetti (sp?) Equation or Hatch or Jacob's Cabin...something geeky retarded like that!
thejwac by edshrinker	Mar 13th, 2008 06:23:21 PM
So have you been a stupid Fuck all your life, or did you have to study under the masters like capt jack. What is your problem? Is your life truly that pathetic that you get a rise out of "attempting" to ruin a board that a handful of devoted fans enjoy? No one likes you in your pathetic outside world, why don't you at least try to make friends here? And those of you who know me know this is the harshest I've ever been on this site, so I must be pissed. Node, where are you, you're better at this than me?!?
About VALIS... by br1947	Mar 13th, 2008 06:24:59 PM
not much of a connection. Just a brief similarity to Desmond's time jumping mind. Other than that, just a alot of trippy craziness. Anyone else read it and get anything more out of it?
I'll watch Reaper... by br1947	Mar 13th, 2008 06:27:03 PM
on my DVR. After Lost. Because I am sure as fuck not watching Eli Stone.
Some interesting if not true speculation by edshrinker	Mar 13th, 2008 06:29:12 PM
Can be found via Dark Ufo. Love the stuff on our upcoming eps. Nothing real spoilery, but a nice outline as to what ep concentrates on who and why. Good read and it has the feel of truth to it http://tinyurl.com/yrq7vr
MP's a musician too by rbrog77	Mar 13th, 2008 06:30:45 PM
Found that out in our Room 23 days. I play keys. Been playing piano as a sideline from time to time at an italian restaurant in Wakefield. Haven't played since New Year's eve, but may go back next month...after the NCAAs. Did a CD for friends and family for christmas, and took one of the melodies from LOST and did an orchestrated version of it on there. Same basic melody they used during Charlie's death, except I changed it to 3/4. I wish it was still posted online somewhere. I'd send you a link.
90 Minutes!! by edshrinker	Mar 13th, 2008 06:31:25 PM
Fucking Grey's used up yeast ridden pussy (Anatomy). Having our LOST at 10pm is going to suck useless, poisonous nuts.
DO that and I will seed it... by edshrinker	Mar 13th, 2008 06:35:01 PM
on Pirate Bay with the rest of my stuff. That'll get me moving. I can start putting my own stuff up..so close friends and family can download (and deposit in the recycle bin!). I sell my self short. Some of it is pretty good. I just wish a I had one of my old and best bands from Boone, NC was still around to record it. From the days of the 4-track recorder my friend!
Christian Shepard is the man on the boat! by skywalkerfamily	Mar 13th, 2008 06:40:36 PM
He's looking for Jack!
Wow... by br1947	Mar 13th, 2008 06:42:08 PM
Trying to decide what to watch tonight before Lost, read the description for tonight's Smallville: Former Smallville resident Pete Ross (Sam Jones III), now a roadie for the band OneRepublic, accidentally chews kryptonite-laced gum and gets superpowers. ...wow. I mean really holy shit wow. I used to like Smallville, it had a few decent shows, but dear god someone put a bullet in it. A roading chewing Kryptonite gum... really... wtf...
Spoiler Text by thejwac	Mar 13th, 2008 06:48:12 PM
So as not to upset Mr. Inker. Please stop reading now. This is a rather large spoiler and will be significant to the events of The Economist. Please stop reading if you don't want to be spoiled ; ; ; ; Sayid falls in love with Regina. She is the woman killed that pushes him over the edge to work with Ben. Locke is in the coffin. The island is the source of all life on earth. ; ; ; ; SPOILER ALERT OVER PLEASE RETURN TO YOUR DAY THANK YOU AND HAVE A GOOD DAY
See if it's still here, shrink by rbrog77	Mar 13th, 2008 06:50:40 PM
http://tinyurl.com/33rzt7 If not, let me know
1 hour by rbrog77	Mar 13th, 2008 06:59:47 PM

I read spoilers by edshrinker	Mar 13th, 2008 07:07:53 PM
all teh time jwac. But there are so many more disciplined people ou there that work to stay away I admire them. Therefore stand up for them. Guess it is none of my business. Just the same - thanks for respecting those that are spoiler free jwac.
rbrog by edshrinker	Mar 13th, 2008 07:08:58 PM
Are all 12 tracks yours?
DLing by edshrinker	Mar 13th, 2008 07:12:15 PM
Ode to Lost right now...
Doesn't Juliet pretty much lie about everything? by skywalkerfamily	Mar 13th, 2008 07:14:35 PM
She works for Ben, duh!!!
Shrink by rbrog77	Mar 13th, 2008 07:18:20 PM
Yes. The LOST one is the 2nd track...I think.
I hear.... by edshrinker	Mar 13th, 2008 07:29:43 PM
my echoing, spacious guitar riff overlaying in the background building with the crescendoof keys....beautiful beautiful alone...but I want my guitar with it...maybe I'll ploay around this weekend with your permission...
lost/reaper by wyvern	Mar 13th, 2008 07:31:18 PM
I record both cause I hate commercials.I also don't have anything to do with neilson ratings so what does it matter what I watch live?Does anyone know if cable companys can tell what I record???Just wondering since I seem to remember something about a show not getting great ratings but was dvred alot
Reaper is not Lost. by skywalkerfamily	Mar 13th, 2008 07:41:10 PM
Hell, it isn't even an infomercial.
Speaking of Music by 4we8have15to16go23back42	Mar 13th, 2008 07:51:15 PM
Did you guys see the announcement that I posted from DarkUFO on last weeks talkback about the season 3 soundtrack? Can't wait!
wyvern by edshrinker	Mar 13th, 2008 07:55:47 PM
You know buddy, I have never been able to pin down exactly how they do the whole ratings gig. I'd be more accurate if they had a way of tracking channel/time for every user and then compile a sample of the data (cable/satellite). I record my stuff througha DirectTv box wired into my Tv card on my PC. Hence- Windows Media Center pwns me. Nice application. Throw it in Video ReDo to edit out commercials and reformay for upload to the internet. But that reception of that satellite box getting a signal and these suckers also send BACK a signal...I am certain these suckers know what I watch, when and how much I watch. That is how they should complie ratings. But I do not think they do HERE IT COMES.... BECAUSE......YOU'RE MINE!!!!!!!!!! Lovesick little bugeyed puppy!
Yeah that's why I don't like Juliet by CherryValance	Mar 13th, 2008 07:55:51 PM
Not a fan of liars.
Bring On.. by edshrinker	Mar 13th, 2008 07:59:47 PM
Ji Yeon!!! Jack is being played by those scrumptious cans...I know it. Each tit has a purpose to serve. ALL WE BE REVEALED... "See you guys at dinner!"
Here we go by edshrinker	Mar 13th, 2008 08:00:30 PM
enjoy the ride my friends
Regina/Zoe is by edshrinker	Mar 13th, 2008 08:03:21 PM
YUMMY and she can read upside down Time Traveler sickness?
Sayid will make a four course meal out of that by CherryValance	Mar 13th, 2008 08:04:11 PM
I bet
this episode already sucks by krycek08	Mar 13th, 2008 08:07:28 PM
2 fillers in a row
Im checking out for a few hours by 4we8have15to16go23back42	Mar 13th, 2008 08:07:54 PM
since the east coast is starting to watch and I won't get it for 3 more hours in California. Have fun!
FUCK NCAA BASKETBALL by Mr. Mcpoops	Mar 13th, 2008 08:09:38 PM
No Lost tonight because of the fucking SEC tournament. God damn it. I am pissed. Fucking Arkansas.
Ji Yeon by edshrinker	Mar 13th, 2008 08:10:12 PM
Pronouncd: Chyon I don't speak Korean, but that is what I heard.
re: cable company paranoia by br1947	Mar 13th, 2008 08:11:23 PM
Can the cable/satellite company know what you watch or DVR. Yes and No, depends on your setup. Analog cable (no box) no. Digital Cable or Satellite, yes. As for DVR... again, depends on your setup. Tivo or another subscription service, yes; PC dvr, no.
Beans and a confined space by edshrinker	Mar 13th, 2008 08:13:08 PM
Whooo Boy
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZ by TomBodet	Mar 13th, 2008 08:14:25 PM
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
No more beans by CherryValance	Mar 13th, 2008 08:17:07 PM
hopefully this will head into Brokeback territory
Oh, Tom, you slay me by TerryMalloy	Mar 13th, 2008 08:17:30 PM

Question... by Shermdawg	Mar 13th, 2008 08:17:39 PM
Has Sayid been absolutely positively confirmed as one of the Oceanic Six?
I'm so worried for Jin, Sun, and Ji Yeon by TerryMalloy	Mar 13th, 2008 08:18:12 PM
Please don't die
I just had a flashback by edshrinker	Mar 13th, 2008 08:18:37 PM
to Daniel Dae Kim in Crusade - that quickly axed spinoff from Babylon 5. He was 1st mate. Damn Renee Z. looks great in period pieces. As does Kate eckinsale and Angelina Jolie. Something about the dark red lipstick.... I love Kate Beckisale in the Aviator... Leatherheads looks watchable. Looks like more of a d/l than a theater trip though.
remember when 1 episode was several island days by krycek08	Mar 13th, 2008 08:19:13 PM
now its several episodes for 1 island day. i wonder if grinding the plot to a standstill was intentional by the writers....
Question... by TerryMalloy	Mar 13th, 2008 08:19:16 PM
What happened in the scene with the helicopter pilot and Sayid/Desmond? I zoned out for a second.
I really hope Sun dies... by TheRealSeveren	Mar 13th, 2008 08:20:12 PM
mainly because when she speaks English she sounds slightly retarded. Shes just not a good actress and is always asking filler questions...her character just isnt written well. Also, I could care less whether or not Jin and Sun join Lockes camp.
Shermdawg by TerryMalloy	Mar 13th, 2008 08:20:14 PM
Yes.
he brought them lima beans by CherryValance	Mar 13th, 2008 08:20:43 PM
and said the captain wasn't happy that they broke out of sick bay and Sayid told him the door was open.
Question 2... by Shermdawg	Mar 13th, 2008 08:22:01 PM
How has he been confirmed?
IM CALLING IT NOW by JBouganim1	Mar 13th, 2008 08:22:08 PM
SUN AND JIN ARENT TOGETHER. HES GOING SOMEWHERE ELSE
I don't trust that guy by CherryValance	Mar 13th, 2008 08:22:11 PM
replacement doctor? Puleaze.
TerryMalloy... by TheRealSeveren	Mar 13th, 2008 08:22:29 PM
they all decided to start a band. Actually, it was just confirmed that Frank wasnt the one helping them on the boat and Frank discouraged Sayid from talking to El Capitan.
Thanks Cherry by TerryMalloy	Mar 13th, 2008 08:23:01 PM

Shermdawg by edshrinker	Mar 13th, 2008 08:24:06 PM
Yes Sherm - he is an O6er. We are seeing the final 2. But wait for the final 10 minutes to get the complete picture... MY FUCKING PANDA AND the last one. Could his day get any worse??? Ummm. Yeah, I guess it could....
She said Jin... by JBouganim1	Mar 13th, 2008 08:24:59 PM
Jin-YEON But they arent together.
Wherever Sun go.. by TheRealSeveren	Mar 13th, 2008 08:25:23 PM
I go...I pussywhipped.
Where has he been confirmed? by Shermdawg	Mar 13th, 2008 08:25:38 PM

I FUCKIN' HATE JULIET by CherryValance	Mar 13th, 2008 08:25:56 PM
shut up, you evil whore.
WHAT CANS!!!! by edshrinker	Mar 13th, 2008 08:26:01 PM
What lushous can you have. What wide HIPS you have. JULIET - YOUFUCKER!!!
I remember Xiphos by TerryMalloy	Mar 13th, 2008 08:26:20 PM

WHAT A SLUT by TerryMalloy	Mar 13th, 2008 08:26:43 PM

you might be right JBouganim1... by TheRealSeveren	Mar 13th, 2008 08:26:50 PM
especially considering the bomb that just got dropped.
God, Juliet has nice tits by memento108	Mar 13th, 2008 08:26:55 PM
Amazing.
Aw, man! by kyle051554	Mar 13th, 2008 08:27:08 PM
Juliet! What a bitch!
Anyone getting that feeling that Ive been saying? by JBouganim1	Mar 13th, 2008 08:27:16 PM
Like they are delaying any communication between the two.
I HATE JULIET by TerryMalloy	Mar 13th, 2008 08:27:48 PM
I'm extremely displeased at this turn of events. As indicated by my CAPS LOCKS and my sexist epithets.
Sun should have done more than slapped Juliet... by tonagan	Mar 13th, 2008 08:27:48 PM
It should have turned into a knock-down drag-out catfight, with Kate trying to break it up. Maybe it could have started raining and gotten muddy. Next on Cinemax.
Thanks Real by JBouganim1	Mar 13th, 2008 08:27:48 PM

Year of the dragon: by Charlie Murphy	Mar 13th, 2008 08:28:01 PM
last one was 2000. next one is 2012. when the hell are these people?!?!
Nothing good happens to these people off the island.. by JBouganim1	Mar 13th, 2008 08:28:25 PM
This story can't end happy. Shes with the bald dude
The Panda is Jin's constant by TerryMalloy	Mar 13th, 2008 08:28:33 PM

Sun should whip her ass by br1947	Mar 13th, 2008 08:29:01 PM
and rip off her shirt... yes...
Tonagan by TerryMalloy	Mar 13th, 2008 08:29:06 PM
That would have been awesome.
Good SHIT CHARLIE!!! by JBouganim1	Mar 13th, 2008 08:29:21 PM
YOU JUST CONFIRMED IT.... ITS 2012. SHES PREGNANT WITH SOMEONE ELSE'S CHILD....
By the by, thanks real by TerryMalloy	Mar 13th, 2008 08:30:01 PM

Regardless I still dont really care... by TheRealSeveren	Mar 13th, 2008 08:30:09 PM
if Jin and Sun are together, not together, in space, etc. I just want Sun to die preferably in severe pain. Jin's cool though...
Xiphos by TerryMalloy	Mar 13th, 2008 08:30:43 PM
I hate Juliet. But I love the cans.
lol I hate Sun.. by JBouganim1	Mar 13th, 2008 08:31:19 PM

JIN SUCKS COCK..HES MARRIED TO BERNARD by JBouganim1	Mar 13th, 2008 08:31:41 PM

Xiphos by TerryMalloy	Mar 13th, 2008 08:32:32 PM
Your campaign for Juliet's cans was a complete success. That was very sneaky.
WOW!!! WHAT A TWIST!!! by JBouganim1	Mar 13th, 2008 08:32:38 PM
JIN AND BERNARD ARE MARRIED
Sherm by edshrinker	Mar 13th, 2008 08:32:55 PM
Darlton. I'm not gonna try to dig up the link but I believe it is at Lostpedia as well. How about, trust all of us who have known the O-6 since before the season? No? Can't help you then. By the end of the EP, WE WILL HAVE ALL OF THE O-6 as confirmed several times by Sun (Yunjun Kim). So wait and see then. You fuckin' secret spillin' cunt whore bitch. I loved Juliet until now. That might have had a noble purpose, but was WAY TOO FUCKING off the mark. Save the baby (maybe) but ruin the fucking relationship. YOU CUNT! Not a good decision, Juliet. Maybe you could have thought that through. You coulds have always went and got her at Locke's camp later when it is time to go if the rescue is real. Maybe chopper over there to get there. Sheesh.
Where'd that boat come from? by GQtaste	Mar 13th, 2008 08:33:07 PM
Thats funny.
Yes Bernard I know about karma... by TheRealSeveren	Mar 13th, 2008 08:33:10 PM
Im Asian.
What about the Fish's Karma? by edshrinker	Mar 13th, 2008 08:35:11 PM
We...have...a...suicide! So much for Zoe Bell's big role!
Zoe sure had a substantical role. by GQtaste	Mar 13th, 2008 08:35:49 PM
Wow.
We don't know why she just killed herself by TerryMalloy	Mar 13th, 2008 08:37:18 PM
Right? I didn't miss anything?
Na, Zoe will pop back up by br1947	Mar 13th, 2008 08:37:37 PM
"I'm ok!" If you saw grindhouse, you know this to be true.
Maybe Zoe's in her own version... by TheRealSeveren	Mar 13th, 2008 08:38:04 PM
of Groundhog day. Trying to kill herself over and over...captain sure didnt seem to phased by it. Maybe because she does this sort of thing all the time.
HOLY SHIT! by JBouganim1	Mar 13th, 2008 08:38:07 PM
OPRAH OWNS THE BOAT AND THE ISLAND.
Zoe Bell must have just read the "Death Proof" talkback... by tonagan	Mar 13th, 2008 08:38:12 PM

I'm surprised Des didn't try to save her by TerryMalloy	Mar 13th, 2008 08:38:24 PM
After seeing him dive into the swan, I'm sure he can hold his breath for 3 minutes underwater just fine. He must have trained as a freediver
Jin IS IN THE COFFIN!! by skywalkerfamily	Mar 13th, 2008 08:39:46 PM
IT'S TRUEEE!!!
Zoe kicked ass in "death proof" by TerryMalloy	Mar 13th, 2008 08:39:57 PM
she was the best thing about that movie.
This episode only has 20min left? by TheRealSeveren	Mar 13th, 2008 08:40:10 PM
Pretty underwhelming so far.
THE SICKNESS! by TerryMalloy	Mar 13th, 2008 08:40:45 PM

Time for the Black Box by edshrinker	Mar 13th, 2008 08:41:14 PM
ANd no, I'm not referring to Michael's Ex wife,,, ta-dat-dum ...but seriously folks tap..tap...tap Is this thing on?
Ohhhh god by Series7	Mar 13th, 2008 08:43:17 PM
Of course this episode has to be all about them damn japanese. Can't fucking skim the web and read the TV. Why couldn't they just make them speak English. Seriously I am lazy, thats probably why I can't recall most of Jin and Chun Lee's story because I didn't feel like reading during TV. I mean what is this? SCHOOL?
ok THAT was cool... by TheRealSeveren	Mar 13th, 2008 08:43:23 PM
more scenes like the black box scene please and thank you.
HAHAHAHAHA EVEN SUN THINKS THEY ALL LOOK THE SAME by JBouganim1	Mar 13th, 2008 08:45:08 PM

"I'm Sorry" by edshrinker	Mar 13th, 2008 08:45:22 PM
THAT is simply not sufficient, Juliet. This talk could have been done as they walk to Locke's camp. Or the next day when she goes to meet up with her (as concerned as he is, I'm sure she ould m

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