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Hehehe!Wolfgang.....
by travis-dane
Mar 12th, 2008
08:54:11 AM
Bring Michael Ironside back!
yeeha
by Sailor Rip
Mar 12th, 2008
08:54:15 AM
v's cool
Please Not Another All-Star Poseidon
by bobinnova
Mar 12th, 2008
08:57:29 AM
Have it like "Das Boot" and I'm onboard!
I Already Saw This Movie
by Saint Andeol
Mar 12th, 2008
09:01:39 AM
it was called "Half Life 2", and it kicked ass.
Battlefield Earth II
by tonagan
Mar 12th, 2008
09:05:42 AM
Yeah.
didn't travolta make this already?
by BendersShinyAss
Mar 12th, 2008
09:07:17 AM
Wolfgang is not someone I would imagine to amke a better film

but thats just me. I only liked in the line of fire, but even that had his trademark crapness in it.

MEXICANS?
by vini77
Mar 12th, 2008
09:08:09 AM
What powerful alien race?
I Just Downloaded The New Cut Of Troy
by The Ender Smites Foes
Mar 12th, 2008
09:15:19 AM
The music is still horrible, not sure what exactly you are hearing differently. The violence is amped up, Sean Bean gets more time (which he deserves), and a few other things. But overall still not a good movie. Just okay.
RE: "By the way, Troy was pretty great."
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Mar 12th, 2008
09:24:28 AM
I'm glad to see that this has sort of caught on as a new AICN catchphrase. We should never let Proman1984 forget it.
And MARC SINGER better be in this.
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Mar 12th, 2008
09:26:00 AM
Or there will be Hell to pay.
Troy was a suck-fest of epic proportions
by SkinJob69
Mar 12th, 2008
09:28:05 AM
A tragety, really, as the Iliad is a kick-ass story.
Ha
by thecheesegrommit
Mar 12th, 2008
09:44:04 AM
I'm good! Two for Two. Play along folks and try to guess the author of a particular post before entering. I've become adept at guessing Merrick's snarky writing.
INDEPENDENCE DAY 2
by Mullah Omar
Mar 12th, 2008
09:55:10 AM
Really, this film has been made over and over again. At least a series or miniseries would give time to develop the great themes inherent in an alien invasion situation. I love this genre, but it begs more epic storytelling.
Ender's Game
by enderandrew
Mar 12th, 2008
09:56:40 AM
Give up Ender's Game to Zemekis, and let him do it the way he did for Beowulf. Animated, IMAX 3D is the way to go for Ender's Game. The studios are demanding older actors, and want to screw up the story. Animate it, and then the kids can be the right ages, and you can pull of the Battle School stuff the way it was meant to be done, in 3D glory!
Re-Make Neverending Story!
by superduper3000
Mar 12th, 2008
09:57:15 AM
...just kidding. Man, they really killed that franchise, didn't they? But who wouldn't love to see more of those scary German fairy tales done right?

Troy be damned, gimme more Neverending Story...done right, dammit!

God of War!!

http://tinyurl.com/38kjw5
Ham Tyler FTW!
by gridbug
Mar 12th, 2008
09:59:23 AM
With a tip of the hat to Willie the Visitor. "I am just."
Focus on the politicians selling Earth out to the aliens.
by kabong
Mar 12th, 2008
09:59:38 AM
Then focus on the politicians being exterminated.

Yeah, put me down for that.

Will Troys new score
by Series7
Mar 12th, 2008
10:04:36 AM
Feature more of Horner's EPIC scoring of DA NA NANA over and over again to let you know something exciting is going to happen? I think he created it for Titanic, fucking BLEW it out of the water for the Perfect Storm. Like once they get in the water, seriously count how many times you hear it, it’s gotta be close to 1000. I swear I almost lost my fucking mind after hearing it in the Perfect Storm. Its like he wants something like the Dn-Dn from Law and Order, but a lot more bang you over the head with it over and over and over again. I only heard mild use of it in Troy. Hopefully the DC is full on trumpet blaring DA-NA-NANA! Please tell me I am not the only one who noticed this. And how grating it was on the doldrums.
V = Meh
by RogueWarrior65
Mar 12th, 2008
10:07:33 AM
Sorry, I could never really get into V. The plot lines are too clichéd for my taste.
Speaking of Troy
by Series7
Mar 12th, 2008
10:19:33 AM
When is Nathan Joes going to be cast as the new Conan?
Another Alan Moore adaptation!!!??!?
by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World
Mar 12th, 2008
10:20:43 AM
By the way, Troy is pretty good.
series 7, you arent the only one to notice Horner
by moondoggy2u
Mar 12th, 2008
10:30:51 AM
and his lifts and rehashes. As far as that Da na nana drum beat, he's been using that one since Wrath of Kahn. You'll hear it in Wrath, Aliens, Willow, Braveheart, Enemy at the Gates, etc. Oh, and of course, there is that 5 note horn riff he first used in Willow (though it does bear some resemblence to a few notes in Wrath), and has never stopped using that same, highly noticable, riff in many of his films. He is almost as bad as Danny "love me some bongos" elfman.
I loved V and...
by D o o d
Mar 12th, 2008
10:32:51 AM
my hopes were up when I first saw the Independance Day trailer. Unfortunately that turd was directed by Emerich so it was turd, I'm not sure I made that clear. Anyway, let's hope this is closer to the V I remember and not the turd that was ID4
James Horner
by CuervoJones
Mar 12th, 2008
10:34:55 AM
Listen the Aliens score in the three Harrison Ford´s Jack Ryan movies and in Poryect X. Listen Willow´s score in Troy!
TROY! Now it's a better film.
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
Mar 12th, 2008
10:49:57 AM
moondoggy2u
by Series7
Mar 12th, 2008
10:52:06 AM
Yeah I actually watched Wrath a couple of months ago and yeah now that you say it i noticed it. But its never as bad as it was in Perfect Storm. I like Elfman a lot more, but man he has jumped the shark since Planet of the Apes. At least Elfmans music doesn't ruin a movie. Which Batman theme do you like better, his or Hans Zimmer's? I know Harry knocked Zimmer's score for the new movie, probably because it wasn't as iconic as Elfmans. But I got the Begins soundtrack and some of the songs are bad ass, like the one where he is driving. And actually if you listin to a lot of action trailers these days they use Han's score (not as much as Clint Mansell's stuff, I mean i haven't heard a rap song with a sample of it yet). I guess you couldn't really use Elfmans score as much because it is so classic.
Battlefield V on Independence Day?
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
Mar 12th, 2008
11:09:08 AM
I know it's no Citzen Kane, but I'll never understand all the exteme hatred toward Battlefield Earth. I rather enjoyed it.
where is the devil is the new series of V?!
by RockLobster800
Mar 12th, 2008
11:14:40 AM
I mean if they can revamp Battlestar Galactica into a decent show, they could make V into a masterpiece of TV! dont gwet me wrong, I liked the original series and all, but its badly dated (the opening credit score for the final battle is still frickin awesome though) but nowadays that show could be great-imagine the original series crossed with 24 (when it was good)-you dont have alien Dynasty styled melodrama, you have alien kick ass straight up drama!
I willed my self to sleep during that shitfest!
by FILMFUNK
Mar 12th, 2008
11:18:51 AM
I'm not sure I could ever be in a positive enough mood to give it another go even ( maybee if I'd just won the lottery ) if it's been made watchable.

Same goes for Kingdom of Heaven which is obviously a million ties better than Troy but was still a bit Meh after the all conquering Return of The King.

I WANT ENDER'S GAME
by MattmanReturns
Mar 12th, 2008
11:28:17 AM
Dammit, I don't need another Battlefield Earth. "Uprising" is the most uninspired title I've ever heart.
Heard
by MattmanReturns
Mar 12th, 2008
11:28:37 AM
...not "heart"
Try Newly Formulated TROY!
by harper54
Mar 12th, 2008
11:31:47 AM
Now with the 33% more man V.
Rock Lobster... Its in book form
by modlight
Mar 12th, 2008
11:36:46 AM
Kenneth Johnson wrote a novel that tells the tale of the new V miniseries that he would/will/wants to produce. I just finished it and it is not bad. Even better if you like your books less literary and more screenplayish.
TROY not on HD DVD?!?!
by ATARI
Mar 12th, 2008
12:14:40 PM
What is this world coming, too!!

TROY not on Laserdisc?!?!
by ATARI
Mar 12th, 2008
12:15:02 PM
What is this world coming, too!!

TROY not on RCA CED?!?!
by ATARI
Mar 12th, 2008
12:15:25 PM
What is this world coming, too!!

TROY not on VHS?!?!
by ATARI
Mar 12th, 2008
12:15:41 PM
What is this world coming, too!!

TROY not on Beta?!?!
by ATARI
Mar 12th, 2008
12:15:59 PM
What is this world coming, too!!

OK, enough asshat postings for one day.
by ATARI
Mar 12th, 2008
12:16:32 PM
modlight...
by RockLobster800
Mar 12th, 2008
12:22:23 PM
oh cheers, I must look out for it!
I get the point..Troy director's cut is better, now can we pleas
by Reel American Hero
Mar 12th, 2008
12:31:56 PM
I don't know how this topic has come up at least twice, three times maybe even on the site, not even in the talkback section. I enjoyed the regular cut of Troy, so I'm sure I'll enjoy the director's cut even better. But can we please stop talking about it. It's not even like it just came out on dvd, It's been out for like a year or so now.
The original V....
by Darth Macchio
Mar 12th, 2008
12:55:59 PM
Loved it as a kid...I remember thinking "They choose THAT guy for Freddy Krueger? He's like a super-nice alien who doesn't want to eat people! How can he be a psycho-killer?" I can also remember the original theme song as well...very kewl stuff. I love the 'V' parallels with WW2 as well. Cheesy effects, probably cringe-worthy dialogue, and the intro stolen right out of Clark's novel, "Childhood's End", but still good TV dammit! (course it might not hold up after all this time).
But what does Alan Moore think?
by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World
Mar 12th, 2008
01:01:01 PM
About Troy?
Battlefield Earth
by joeelliott
Mar 12th, 2008
01:11:07 PM
and the other side of the moon
I have an uprising in my pants
by Spoiler_Man
Mar 12th, 2008
01:43:11 PM
Suck on that, Troy.
Hey Merrick
by Mezzanine
Mar 12th, 2008
02:16:39 PM
Good job ripping off the point (and almost the exact same title) that the CHUD guys posted at least eight hours before you did.

And please, shut the fuck up about the new version of Troy. No one cares.

nothing will make me watch Troy again
by samsquanch
Mar 12th, 2008
02:20:26 PM
unless the terrorists invent a raygun that turns people gay.
Ender's Game will never get made.
by samsquanch
Mar 12th, 2008
02:23:21 PM
Sorry. Give it a moments thought, and you'll realize why.
Emmerich doing "Uprising"?
by Thoreau
Mar 12th, 2008
02:31:59 PM
On Mania.com they listed Emmerich as doing "Uprising"? Is it now Peterson, did it change or was it a mistake on one of their parts?
This could be good.
by the9points
Mar 12th, 2008
02:37:25 PM
OPTIMISM, ladies and gentleman. Rocklobster - Colour me in for your 24/V series.

I imagine it playing out EXACTLY as 24 has. The alien plot to kill a presidential candidate unfolds to be a single rogue alien, played by Dennis Hopper. In season two we lose our way slightly and have an alien cougar for an episode.

People are pissed off.

But we pull it back and have the resistance stop a plot to start world war, get us to wipe ourselves out.

come season three, we'll set a human undercover on the alien world. this will cleverly tie to plot on earth where the aliens try using some brat kid to spread a virus through drug suggling. when we fuck that up on a reveal that just doesn't quite work, we'll just cut our losses and move to the coolest fucking alien bad guy we've ever seen. he actually has good reason for doing what he's doing. the audience like him. he'll blackmail our governments then we'll just get loaded for a couple of months and get to the end without having an ending. school shootout; maybe we'll cut a cheeky arm off. wife of way back dead dude kills coolest bad guy alien ever in cold blood in meh scene. but we're wrapped and loaded.

season four, we're still getting loaded. ..we can't really be fucked this year.. no aliens. stereotypical muslim bad guy. lots of gunplay and explosions. people like gunplay and explosions. they like EMP's too. put an EMP in there.

season five. sober. lets plan out the entire story before we start, shall we? - hmm, i don't know. sounds risky - lets give it a go this one time. pull off one of the best seasons of television ever aired when an alien plot to destroy major cities uncovers a far greater conspiracy. one of the aliens has infultrated the highest level of government! heroes take down. we are fucking LOVED.

season six. loaded. while tripping balls we come up with some of the best stories we ever have. resistance tied to aliens through family. BROTHER vs. BROTHER (why oh why didn't you run the entire season bauer vs. bauer? fucking douches) the triumphant return of the alien who infultrated presidency! we get loaded. write him out after an episode without giving him any point what-so-ever. 2/3 point. people are pissed again. far more than last time. gunplay. people love gunplay. and yakuza-like terrorists. put some alien yakuza-like terrorists in there.

we pull it back in the closing minuts. result. bring it back home. forget the alien overloards for a second. this is about the resistance. they've had to do what they're doing. all very emotional. when in doubt, make em cry.

season seven; could we? - fuck it, why not? we'll bring back a dead character from the past of our protagonist. alien convert...???

yeah. that'll be good.

samsquanch
by MattmanReturns
Mar 12th, 2008
02:54:46 PM
I thought about it... and sorry, I don't see why. It's very cinematic material. Sure, it has a dark ending, but Hollywood actually seems to be a little more open to that type of thing since 9/11.
Troy was good?
by skywalkerfamily
Mar 12th, 2008
03:01:25 PM
I must have missed that memo.
TROY was terrific.
by LoneGun
Mar 12th, 2008
03:12:42 PM
While the film took obvious liberties with the source material, Wolfgang Petersen gave it the grand, epic treatment it deserved. The battle scenes were stunning. The music was chilling. And Brad Pitt was downright amazing as the mighty Achilles.
I got Troy: DC for free on HD-DVD
by Zardoz
Mar 12th, 2008
03:14:42 PM
it was one of my 10 freebies. I've been getting some nice deals on other HD-DVD's lately, too...
How about we invade an alien planet?
by skywalkerfamily
Mar 12th, 2008
03:14:58 PM
Why do we get invaded all the time!
Troy is a guilty pleasure of mine
by loafroaster
Mar 12th, 2008
03:31:47 PM
A bit of dumb fun with some cool-ass fight scenes and the likes of Brian Cox, Peter O'Toole, Brendan Gleeson and Sean Bean hamming it up. What's not to like?
Could go either way
by Gozu
Mar 12th, 2008
03:36:40 PM
Sounds pretty hackneyed though. "Troy" was a mixed bag, but overall it was pretty bad. I am curious about the Director's Cut though.
Could go either way
by Gozu
Mar 12th, 2008
03:36:41 PM
Sounds pretty hackneyed though. "Troy" was a mixed bag, but overall it was pretty bad. I am curious about the Director's Cut though.
Great director, great show...
by Summer_Pudding
Mar 12th, 2008
04:06:34 PM
I've not seen anything of his I didn't enjoy.
Troy Director's Cut is like sex with a woman instead of a girl
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
Mar 12th, 2008
04:08:56 PM
Of course there are sick people that only want sex with a girl instead of a woman, but that's why we have "To Catch A Predator" for the sickos.
Keep Peterson the fuck away..
by Tourist
Mar 12th, 2008
04:21:51 PM
...From Enders Game. The guys a fucking hack. Sure, hes at the top level of hacks, but hes not got what it takes to pull off Enders. Let him do this shit instead. I'm happy with that. Why would anyone want to revisit the Strieber well? His shit is really boring.
LoneGun
by Tourist
Mar 12th, 2008
04:56:59 PM
Are you a) A liar. b) Stupid,ignorant and tasteless or c) Satirical?
mattman
by samsquanch
Mar 12th, 2008
05:00:53 PM
the ending isn't really so dark, actually, and post-911 has absolutely nothing to do with anything here.

Imagine a studio trying to greenlight a story about kids, some as young as 6 years old, for christ's sake, killing eachother with their bare hands. Imagine a studio trying to find a dozen or so kids that age that can act, imagine a studio trying to sell the concept of an almost exculsvely child cast, and don't forget, the fact that it's a sci fi space movie with kids is going to confuse the shit out of them when they realize it's not "Unaccompanied Minors" in orbit.

I don't know if you remember the remake of Lord of the Flies, but when that film came out it was hugely controversial, even though the kids were twice Ender's age, and some of the shenaningans Ender gets up to in the book would translate way more brutally on screen, if done faithfully. There are other issues at play as well, subtle, nuanced elements of the story that have to do with childhood interrupted, the emancipation of children, emotional violence, corruption, abuse and war as experienced by children, none of which are easily digested by sunday matinee crowds. This is a kind of 'darkness' much deeper than what the ending has going for it, and I would argue that in a post 9-11 world, regular folks are less inclined, not more, to see little kids brutalizing eachother.

Don't get me wrong, I love the book, I'm just not holding my breath for a faithful adaptation. We might get a teenage Ender, or we might get a Golden Compass effect, with everything interesting, compelling and good about the story castrated for mainstream audiences. We won't see a true Ender's Game on the big screen any time soon, if ever. Sorry.

Anyone ever read the book of The NeverEnding Story
by kwisatzhaderach
Mar 12th, 2008
06:10:23 PM
It's a classic...would make a helluva film if done correctly. Having said that I have a lot of nostalgia for the 80s film, especially the soundtrack.
nah nah nah, nah nah nah, nah nah nahhhh
by Flip63Hole
Mar 12th, 2008
07:20:08 PM
Whitley Strieber
by The Amazing G
Mar 12th, 2008
07:30:21 PM
*touches alien face floating next to my computer*
I Hated Troy & Poseidon with a Vengeance.
by The Outlander
Mar 12th, 2008
08:42:47 PM
What happened to the director that made Das Boot, or even Airforce One and The Perfect Storm? It's like every time he makes a film it's a new low. Is it possible he could make a film worse than Poseidon? Normally I would be keen to see a film like this, but I have to say that I am almost dreading this one. Every time that Hollywood makes a bad sci-fi film it continues to give the genre a bad reputation.
Grays was not a typical invasion suckfest
by Mr. Vader
Mar 12th, 2008
09:15:14 PM
The grays had some very interesting characters, and a fresh angle on the alien invasion genre. Instead of an Independence Day style alien beat-down, the invasion (if you could call it that) was a story about political subterfuge, secret military agreements, and genetics experiments. I would love to see a film adaptation of Streiber's novel. Does anybody know the status of the project. IMDB doesn't have anything but a title.
Skywalkerfamily, don't give Rove any ideas
by ebonic_plague
Mar 12th, 2008
09:20:51 PM
Besides, "democracy, whiskey, sexy!" doesn't really translate into Martian. By the way, Troy was pretty great.
Tourist
by LoneGun
Mar 12th, 2008
09:56:09 PM
Answer: None of the above, my friend. None of the above. But keep guessing.
I always brought this up about Enders Game..
by Tourist
Mar 12th, 2008
11:08:57 PM
...Its like Harry Potter, only harry beats Draco to death in a naked shower fist fight. Oh, and they are 6, rather than 12. Its gonna be hard to get that on screen.
Nathan Jones is a BIG...
by poeticwarriorII
Mar 13th, 2008
04:23:52 AM
motherfucker, but if that guy is Conan then I'm a goddamn monkey's uncle. Arnold is the only guy they should let near the barbarian franchise and if they can't get him then let it fucking die.
Screw Marc Singer
by Cereal Killa
Mar 13th, 2008
08:16:00 AM
Gimme Rob Englund as Willie! Mouseeeeyy, Heeerreee Mouseeey!
Skywalker Family
by Sithdan
Mar 13th, 2008
09:02:01 AM
That sounds like an interesting idea for a film. The the only thing I can think of that came close to that is Starship Troopers.
So, um..where's the contest here?
by Reel American Hero
Mar 13th, 2008
03:13:29 PM
I'm just saying...
Return of the King
by Kaitain
Mar 13th, 2008
04:28:06 PM
"Same goes for Kingdom of Heaven which is obviously a million ties better than Troy but was still a bit Meh after the all conquering Return of The King" At least you had to will yourself to sleep during Troy. ROTK did that for me without any effort being required on my part. A very poor movie, lacking any real tension and needlessly slow at the end (I'm not talking about the scenes themselves so much as the slllloooow waaaaay aaaall the dialooooogue is deliverrrrrred, Saaaaaaam). To be honest Fellowship was the only one of the LOTR trilogy that was up to snuff. TT and ROTK were, frankly, dull. Apart from Eowyn, she was hot.
V
by Kaitain
Mar 13th, 2008
04:35:29 PM
I must admit I only recently discovered that V began life as a non-science fiction story about the rise of fascism in the USA, but NBC suggested it needed greater commercial appeal and I think also wanted it to be outsiders acting in a totalitarian way rather than Americans themselves. Was I the only person who didn't know this already? Maybe so. Kenneth Johnson must have wondered what had happened to his creation by the end of V: The Series, when it had descended into formulaic action fare collided with a Dynasty-style soap opera on the visitor side of the narrative. (The infighting of the enemy and our familiarity with them as viewers also became a major weakness of the Galactica reboot imo.)
What I want to see is....
by Kaitain
Mar 13th, 2008
04:55:35 PM
I suggested this around five years ago on an AICN forum, and obviously Cloverfield isn't a million miles away from this, but....I'd love to see a really well done fictional documentary of an alien invasion of earth. Not "found camera" footage a la Cloverfield and Blair Witch, more professional news crew stuff covering the first mysterious events, the unfolding news story worldwide as it becomes apparent something big is going on, the shock of the first attacks, coverage of our attempted counters etc. An alternative angle might be a faux-History Channel-style retrospective documentary charting the history of the Earth-Alien war, with maps, graphics etc, detailing planned offensives, successes and failures, major attacks on civilian population centres etc. Oh, and while the alien forces should be formidable, they should not be indestructable due to bloody energy shields or something. That just sucks.
So Wolfgang Petersen walks into a bar...
by bobinnova
Mar 14th, 2008
03:06:52 PM
Whoops, wrong contest.
Scientology propaganda laughed out of theatres.
by thegreatwhatzit
Mar 20th, 2008
12:37:15 PM
The question: What is BATTLEFIELD EARTH?
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