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by Bruce Thomas Wayne
Mar 9th, 2008
11:22:21 PM
you guys are posting news updates like crazy...I've been on the site like 5 minutes and I've seen like 6 or 7 articles...keep it up
FIRST!
by one9deuce
Mar 9th, 2008
11:22:35 PM
RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK is my favorite movie of all-time. I just hope KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL is better than INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE.
Thanks Bruce Thomas Wayne........
by one9deuce
Mar 9th, 2008
11:23:19 PM
for making me look like an asshat.
i want to be the hat! i called hat!
by frankenfickle
Mar 9th, 2008
11:25:16 PM
i am really worried about this movie. and here is my guess for game tokens: hat, whip, his douchey son's motorcycle, the skull, and a bag of peanuts to feed the squirrels in the park because indy is old ha ha.
Darabont's script
by Horace Cox
Mar 9th, 2008
11:25:35 PM
Anyone know if it is available? I'd love to read it and see what Lucas shit all over.
it's a great thing, monopoly
by systemsbroom
Mar 9th, 2008
11:30:00 PM
it's like an empty vessel into which any sort of property can be poured for crass cross-promotional purposes.

Of course, I probably shouldn't talk, being as I own a lord of the rings version of "Risk."

One9deuce
by Bruce Thomas Wayne
Mar 9th, 2008
11:32:43 PM
No prob
Raisin Bran Crunch -- It's How Indy Stays Regular!
by Curious_Jorge
Mar 9th, 2008
11:35:50 PM
Well, he does eat a lot of exotic cuisine all around the world. I'm just sayin'...
*Sigh* ... the "mileage" line is soooo Lucas ...
by krack
Mar 9th, 2008
11:40:35 PM
and sooooo bad.

I mean, I could rant about that line for an hour - but I don't have the heart or the energy to do it. This movie is still going to be better than 99% of what Hollywood has been putting out for the last 15 years, but it's also going to take a little more away from the badass character we knew from Raiders.
krack: Go watch the originals again, bucko
by Playkins
Mar 9th, 2008
11:51:28 PM
They are FILLED with corny puns and double entendre. Don't forget that you've had time to become nostalgic with the first three.

Seriously, you could rant about that for an HOUR, but it's better than 99% of the movies out there? And what happens when you see a movie that's actually BAD? Spontaneous combustion?!?

The more I hear the less I care
by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz
Mar 10th, 2008
12:13:07 AM
This movie seriously sounds like the suck. Fuck Lucas.
Playkins
by IndustryKiller!
Mar 10th, 2008
12:13:54 AM
Krack is saying that even if the movie is better than most films, if it doesn't stand up to the originals i only serves the purpose of degrading the Indy legend. Don't forget, this movie should be held to a much higher standard than typical sumer fare.
ditto Playkins...
by kname2
Mar 10th, 2008
12:18:11 AM
I agree...and another rant I've been seeing lately on here...people whining about and I'll quote one post..."Indy swinging on his whip like Spider-Man in the new trailer"...go rewatch the originals...in Raiders Indy went over the pit on his whip...swung in the mines in Temple as well as through window in the Nazi enclave in Last Crusade...the fact Indy overshoots the swinging mark in the trailer is totally in line with the past as well as poking fun at Ford's often criticized age...doesn't bother me one bit...I was in the theater sneak preview night for the first three and I'll be there for this one...Lucas I don't trust, Spielberg I do...I don't think they'll ruin this...and besides...they both said in the beginning...they intended to make a "B" movie in the first place...so, why bitch when they do exactly that? if you want to criticize anything, watch the Roger Moore era Bond movies vs. the Connery era
Fuck you! The trailer was awesome! And I don't even care what yo
by Proman1984
Mar 10th, 2008
12:22:54 AM
eat it
TOWN OF DOOM DOES SHOW UP IN INDY 4
by soccerfan33
Mar 10th, 2008
01:12:49 AM
Yep, it will show up. There is certainly a fake town and Indy rushes through it just before a nuke blast. It't kind of a wierd sequence. There are manequins all around the town. And get this: to survive the nuclear blast, Indy hides INSIDE A REFRIGERATOR in one of the houses! It's weird.
Yes! Another slam Indy thread!
by skywalkerfamily
Mar 10th, 2008
02:14:49 AM
Thank God. It's only been 24 hours since the last one.
Colby, Kname2, and Playkins ...
by krack
Mar 10th, 2008
02:20:22 AM
Colby: I'll bet my house that line was suggested by George Lucas (or added after the script was written)

Kname2: Here's an idea ... go rewatch Ford swing over the pit in the first 10 minutes of Raiders and then rewatch the trailer. If you cant tell the difference, then I can't help you. In Raiders, 35 year old Indiana Jones is takes his time and is slow and deliberate. In Indy 4, 65 year old Indiana Jones is swinging around like he's in a Matrix movie.

Playkins: Raiders isn't filled with corny puns. There's like four joke lines in Raiders and they are hilarious, but they are hilarious because there's only four of them and they are all played straight. It's also one of the best movies of all time. TOD and LC, on the otherhand, are laugh a minute and the films suffer. This flip of the Raiders "mileage" line in Indy 4 is an obvious *wink, wink* joke to fans of the original movie. It's a "hey, aren't we all cool? we remember the dialogue from 30 years ago and we realize he's old now." It's a bad course to take the film.

My dad's 65 - do you know how often he mentions he's in his sixties during the course of a day? Never. You know why? It's not natural. In fact, it's probably been six months since the last time I heard him say he was getting too old to do something. But already we're aware of at least two jokes where Ford is delivering a soliloquy about how he's too old. I'm sure there will be eight to ten more. Just like the "Indiana Jones has all the same mannerisms as his father, but his father still thinks of him as 'junior'" concept got beaten into the ground in Last Crusade.

What's the old addage? Show me, don't tell me.

Now Crusade is still a fine movie, but when you have a beloved character like Indiana Jones and an unlimited budget, every film is an opportunity to make one of the all-time great movies (as Raiders so definitely was). Crusade (like Temple of Doom) was an opportunity not fully realized.

This group (Spielberg, Ford, Williams, Darabont, and even Lucas) is capable of perfect. They have delivered perfect before (individually and as a group). Raiders was perfect. This one could have been perfect, but I don't think it will be. I wanted perfect.

Unreasonable? Probably. But Raiders is my favorite movie, Ford is my favorite actor, Spielberg is my favorite filmmaker, and I've been waiting 20 years. I wanted perfect.
Putting Shia LeFuckstick in this movie...
by poeticwarriorII
Mar 10th, 2008
02:22:39 AM
was the kiss of fucking death. For some reason Lucas and Speilberg must've thought he was the reason Transformers did so well so they hedged their bets with the shit stain. How the fuck does that douche keep getting jobs?
And if the mileage line shows up in this...
by poeticwarriorII
Mar 10th, 2008
02:26:52 AM
I hope Lucas suffers a debilitating brain aneurysm. That fucker is 30 years past his prime and needs to stop and let someone else heard his creation into the future or just shoot it in the fucking head.
The Temple Of Doom is a purple property???????????????
by Riley Martin
Mar 10th, 2008
02:27:03 AM
FUCK THIS GAME UP THE ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You guys probably think Transporter 2 is the
by skywalkerfamily
Mar 10th, 2008
02:27:10 AM
height of action movies. Some kids on here just talk out of their ass like the one above.
The number one threat facing Indy fandom ...
by AllieJamison
Mar 10th, 2008
02:48:16 AM
Indypoly.
Now that's interesting: the testing site was actually incorporated into Darabont's draft... Including the fridge??
krack
by AllieJamison
Mar 10th, 2008
03:02:54 AM
there's an interview on youtube in which Darabont proudly describes how he used the new mileage line in his script. And I remember Spielberg mentioning that line in some interview a few years back.
Allie -
by krack
Mar 10th, 2008
03:15:28 AM
I have no doubt that line has been in every script commissioned by Lucas since 1989. It is so "George Lucas" it's practically written with an Ewok accent. As I said earlier, I'd bet my house it's the first thing Lucas brought up anytime he mentioned the film.

"Back when we made the first one, Indiana Jones was a man how was slowing down from running around the globe - 'It's not the years, it's the mileage'. Now he's the opposite, he's been out of the treasure hunting business for over a decade, but he's so much older now and that's why he's a slower everyman - 'It's not the mileage, it's the years'."

I can picture Lucas bringing it up, ad nauseum, in every single meeting regarding the film for two decades. I can see it so clearly it's like it's happening in front of me. Why? Because Lucas writes terrible hack dialogue and he is the only person with a connection to the original Raiders who would think that line was a smart line. Also, we are fully aware that basically Spielberg and Ford had to give in to Lucas' demands constantly to get the film finally made because the beard dug in his heels. That's why we're getting aliens where it doesn't belong. I'm sure the concession from Lucas' end was that Spielberg could write his new toy (LaBeouf) into the film.

In short, this new "mileage" line has the "I've got a bad feeling about this", we're gonna jam it into every film, Lucas fingerprints all over.
Anyone know when GL will go back to small experimental films?
by Hideo Kojima
Mar 10th, 2008
03:20:21 AM
Like he said he was going to do after Episode 3 (awesome btw just like the rest of the holy prequel triology) I would love to see some experimental stuff in the vein of THX1138.. and whatever happened to RED TAILS, dammit? Indy 4 will rock though and you haters can suck it... Speaking of haters, TOD haters need to wake up. Temple of Doom shits all over Last Crusade in terms of spills, chills, and thrills.. The first 20 minutes of TOD is pure 30s serial and the remanining is pure pulp. Raiders is the most serial-like of the lot, TOD is pulpy.. so what is Last Crusade? 1930's depression era pre-war slapstick? probably. crystal skulls will be a 50s b movie pulp... I'm rambling now.
"It's not the years, it's the mileage" ?
by NoDiggity
Mar 10th, 2008
03:37:09 AM
I brought that up as a joke in a past talkback, but I'm not at all surprised do see it actually showed up in the final script or film. Anyway, ADD IT TO THE LIST of hack elements.
Wait, where in the Monopoly pics is the line?
by NoDiggity
Mar 10th, 2008
03:47:24 AM
I must have missed it. Where is it?
krack
by DocPazuzu
Mar 10th, 2008
05:35:28 AM
Could the fact that your dad doesn't complain about his age have anything to do with him not being an adventuring archaeologist? Or is he merely so good at swinging over pits, evading booby traps, releasing holy powers and fighting off Nazis, Thuggees and Communists that his age means nothing?
I laugh at anyone not looking forward to this
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
Mar 10th, 2008
05:54:03 AM
Enjoy your failed, bitter and useless lives.
Why is everyone blaming Lucas?
by I Dunno
Mar 10th, 2008
09:49:53 AM
Oh, because it's cool to hate on Lucas now? He wrote the story. Since then there have been at least 2 others to write the actual screenplay. Lucas is also a producer, basically the money guy. Anything you see on the screen is all Spielberg. Want someone to bitch at, bitch at him.
I Dunno: Whoa, careful!!!
by Playkins
Mar 10th, 2008
12:44:21 PM
Idunno: You're going to start the fanboy bitching about "A.I.", "Minority Report", and "War of the Worlds" and how spielberg sucks lately. And at the same time they'll seemingly forget about recent jems like "Munic", "Catch Me If You Can", and "Saving Private Ryan".
MIleage
by SKULL1138
Mar 10th, 2008
12:45:44 PM
I hoped to fuck that when I heard Indy 4 was coming, that this line would be in it, because its funny for those who are big fans of the series...I am glad if its true.

I dont understand what people are knocking this for

There have been many imitations of Indy over the years, but bnone of them have the right mix of humour, action and cool artifacts.

I thought the trailer was awesome, I dont think it gave too much away, its just a teaser after all. But thought it looked cool.

How the fuck is he swingin about like spiderman, thats tota bullshit, watch it again, its just the same as the previous 3 movies, excpet he ficks up and falls in the truck behind...Which is typical Indy humour...Hes just a normal guys who gets lucky half the time, and does something cool every now and again.

This will be along with TDK, the only 2 films I go and see at cinemas this year, never went to any last year. This is what I want to see, good shit like this being made, and not new directors who have no concept or art, timing or antyhing to ake anything good, they just churn out standard hollywood studio bullshit and market the fuck out of it.

Plus when you hear that fucking music, it sends shivers up my spine, best movie theme tune...Everrrrr.

Oh and all Lucas came up with was the Crystal Skull idea (The McGuffin), other people write scripts and this was only one that Ford, Lucas and Spielberg all liked in years, so are they all wrong?

Dont bash it till you have seen it.

Ha, ha - Playkins is under the delusion ...
by krack
Mar 10th, 2008
12:49:07 PM
That Spielberg has made a fun movie in the last decade.
Ha, ha - krack has proved he's a bitchy fanboy ...
by Playkins
Mar 10th, 2008
01:39:02 PM
Did you even SEE "Catch Me If You Can"? And... that movie wasn't fun or clever enough for you?!? Do yourself a favor then and stop seeing movies if you can't find anything you enjoy about them.

You yourself said that KOTCS would be better than "99% of what Hollywood has been putting out for the last 15 years". And you STILL find a way to bitch about Spielberg?

Dude, grow the fuck up.

Do not pass go. Go directly to Belloq's tent
by skywalkerfamily
Mar 10th, 2008
03:01:49 PM
And he'll get you drunk and make you wear a pretty dress.
Go directly to Home; Do not pass Gol DO pay Lucas $200
by finky089
Mar 10th, 2008
03:20:03 PM
Do not pass Go; Do not collect Headpiece to Staff of Rah
by finky089
Mar 10th, 2008
03:21:01 PM
Do not pass Go; Do not collect Golden Fertility Idol
by finky089
Mar 10th, 2008
03:22:15 PM
Do not pass Go; Do not collect Shankara Stones
by finky089
Mar 10th, 2008
03:22:50 PM
(Free Elephant Parking!)
Do not pass Go; Do not collect Holy Grail
by finky089
Mar 10th, 2008
03:23:47 PM
(free camel parking!)
Community Chest
by finky089
Mar 10th, 2008
03:24:55 PM
Take a trip on a Nazi truck down the Cairo Highway. Collect $100 for recovery of Lost Ark!
Community Chest #2
by finky089
Mar 10th, 2008
03:26:00 PM
Save Marion from a gunfight at the Raven's Nest. Collect Headpiece to Staf fof Rah!
Community Chest #3
by finky089
Mar 10th, 2008
03:27:09 PM
Get busy with Marion after recovering Ark for government. Spawn Mutt LaBeouf! (Go directly to Jail. DO not pass Go; DO not collect $200.)
Chance
by finky089
Mar 10th, 2008
03:28:14 PM
Pick a fight with a burly German Mechanic. Escape with your life after German Mechanic is cuisinarted by Flying Wing!
Chance #2
by finky089
Mar 10th, 2008
03:29:01 PM
You ate a Bad Date. Game Over.
Chance #3
by finky089
Mar 10th, 2008
03:30:31 PM
Shorty gets you stuck in an underground deathtrap! Call Willie to save you, only to have her reactivate the trap. Escape barely, but go back to get your hat.
Chance #4
by finky089
Mar 10th, 2008
03:32:12 PM
You decide to enter the Well of The Souls, despite your fear of snakes. But Belloq steals the Ark and traps you inside. Indiana Jones, adieu!
Do not pass go. Do not cross the seal
by skywalkerfamily
Mar 10th, 2008
03:33:04 PM
Or the temple will fall apart, and the old dude will get mad.
Playkins - He's my favorite director ...
by krack
Mar 10th, 2008
03:43:38 PM
I said so in my second post. But even I can recognize that he's lost his fastball. He's still better than everybody else, but he's not as good as he once was. Let's face it, the guy was partially responsible for the Transformers abortion. His last good fun movie was Jurassic Park 2 - that is a long time ago.

And as for Lucas? He took arguably the most exciting beloved movie franchise of all time and turned it into three boring films that were worse than your average Comparative Politics 101 course at the local community college. We also know that he basically told Spielberg and Ford that they couldn't make Indy 4 unless they used aliens (against their better wishes - for 15 years).
on the money, krack
by finky089
Mar 10th, 2008
06:05:56 PM
Lucas might have done "what he wanted to" with the SW prequels, at least that's what he says to the public, but it's hard to dispute that those three new films simply aren't as well written and executed as the originals. I'm not talking about acting or effects or mythology. I'm talking about execution of the story Lucas wanted to tell.

As for Lucas also going on record that HE pushed and pushed for this Crystal SKulls/aliens angle for Indy IV against the repeated refusal of Speilberg, Ford, and others, well - that speaks for itself.

I suppose one could argue that Luca$ might not be totally off his rocker just because those two guys were against the idea. I mean, look at what Ford's done in the past 10+ years. And Speilberg. Have their filmmaking decisions been made with consistent wisdom (coughK19Widowmakercough)?

Still, I thin it's a bad sign when everyone involves acknowledges they didn't really like the idea, but eventualyl just gave in when Luca$ wore them down enough. It isn't like they didn't want to do it b/c it was too avant garde. It's because they didn't like the premise/macguffin. shivers the timbers, don't it?

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