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hmmm..network horror?
by Bouncy X
Mar 3rd, 2008
11:51:16 AM
they obviously cant show or get away with as much as they did before. so does this mean "unrated" versions when it finally hits dvd?
awww i was first without trying..i feel....swell
by Bouncy X
Mar 3rd, 2008
11:51:52 AM
This sounds great but will it be screwed before even airing?
by Jonah Echo
Mar 3rd, 2008
12:01:52 PM
I think this could have the ability to surpass Masters and here is why: the constraints of network will force the writers and the directors to find the scares in other places than gore. Ive watched the whole first season of Masters and part of the second and I just never felt any of the episodes were particularly scary, or even that interesting. Without any sucking up involved, I can honestly say I thought the most interesting entries were Drew and Scott's/and of course John's work for Cigarette Burns and Pro-Life. I didnt think these were great or terribly sucessful but they at least seemed to balance a decent sense of dread with a sense of amusement and some relatively original ideas-CB more than PL. Still, nothing had the zing of some of the old twilight zone eps or outer limits and even a few Tales from the Darksides(In the Closet comes to mind) had more bite. However, with the restrictions to prevent anything too graphic, I think the artists involved will need to get very creative. And the result could be terrific. I look forward to it and genuinely hope it gets treated better than Masters of SCI-FI, though I doubt that will be hard.
What happened to JC?
by BitterMan23
Mar 3rd, 2008
12:04:41 PM
He said it was their best script yet. Did the shoot conflict with a new video game coming out or something?
Oh geez, not that hack McWeeny
by chrth
Mar 3rd, 2008
12:24:42 PM
Y'all see Harry get quoted in the Indiana Jones trailer article?
I thought "Masters of Science Fiction" was pretty good...
by tonagan
Mar 3rd, 2008
12:31:03 PM
And that was network, so I'll reserve judgement.
For release whenever you get around to it....
by Billy Batts
Mar 3rd, 2008
12:31:19 PM
I want to see that header on a press release one day.
No matter where Jack is...
by Pennsy
Mar 3rd, 2008
12:42:52 PM
He'll always be NOSEWORTHY. Good frakkin' god, I'd change that name in a heartbeat if I were him.
Where's Carpenter???
by ZatoichiX1
Mar 3rd, 2008
12:46:15 PM
I thought John Carpenter was doing an episode????
convicted Pedophiles writing for network shows
by blackhole4140
Mar 3rd, 2008
12:54:40 PM
How is Salva still getting work? Not only do his movies suck, but he sucks... well, you know. I just don't understand Hollywood giving the guy a pass.
From The Masters Of Terror that Brought You Saw...Wait...what?
by The Ender Smites Foes
Mar 3rd, 2008
01:09:16 PM
Saw is not horror. At all. It's not even scary, in fact they make the "bad guy" more like a protagonist. They justify his kidnapping and torture of people with flashbacks. Which by my standards, is totally fucking gay. Also, this show will be on NBC. Which means, it will be TV-14. Which means it wont be scary. Anyone saying other wise....I accuse you of watching, and enjoying One Missed Call. And that is a terrible thing to be accused of.
Hollywood loves pedophiles--
by thegreatwhatzit
Mar 3rd, 2008
01:10:36 PM
and Hillary Clinton. Salva's work is the substandard horror shtick--and its pretty damn creepy (JEEPERS CREEPERS with a gay stalker smelling a teen's underwear; I don't even wanna think about the sequel, what with the jocks and the director's penchant for exploiting the bonding). I loathe acting defensive so--yeah, here it comes ("Not that there's anything wrong with that")--I don't give a shit about lifestyle. But I do care about good movies and Salva is a creep who abuses film to mollify his fetishism.
congratulations!
by memflix
Mar 3rd, 2008
01:10:37 PM
That's great news. And Xiphos is right. get ready. Any negative comments will be out of jealousy that you are doing what you truly love to do. Seeing someone achieve that goal brings out the nasty in people.
Zombies...
by BoggyCreekBeast
Mar 3rd, 2008
01:15:23 PM
Oh...how original.
re:Hollywood loves pedophiles
by blackhole4140
Mar 3rd, 2008
01:24:39 PM
I'm not sure that I give a shit about personal lives, either. I know Russel Crowe is an asshole by all accounts, but I'm still interested in most of his films because he's a good actor. I just don't understand how the guy that not only slipped on a boy's penis, but wrote and directed Powder still gets work.
well, at least
by Jarek
Mar 3rd, 2008
01:42:27 PM
They aren't recruiting director's like Bousman and still calling it "Masters of Horror". That guy is the furthest thing from a master.
Bousman is more of a "Master" ....
by BitterMan23
Mar 3rd, 2008
01:57:10 PM
than at least two of the ones who were ACTUALLY dubbed as such on the Showtime show (Malone and McKee). I'll take the worst Saw movie over The Woods or FearDotCom any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
Good for you, Mori!
by buffywrestling
Mar 3rd, 2008
02:10:43 PM
Congrats to you and Scott!
I'm with captboulder...
by SubliminalJones
Mar 3rd, 2008
02:16:06 PM
I predict this will last 4 weeks, tops. It's been proven time and time again that Mr. and Mrs. Mandible Shelf( the ones who make up most of NBC's viewership) do not warm to the anthology format. They can't vicariously live their lives through their favorite recurring characters week after week, so they tune out. I'll bet "My Dad Is Better Than Your Dad" is a big hit, though.
I'm glad it's back
by Brendon
Mar 3rd, 2008
02:25:59 PM
PG-13, R or NC-17 levels of gore and nudity - that's all irrelevant, really. Glad to see so many exciting names attached.
For example of something cool being made within network constrai
by Jonah Echo
Mar 3rd, 2008
02:40:35 PM
One of my fave short horror moments on tv in recent years was the Battleground episode of Nightmares and Dreamscapes. I understand the horror in that one didnt necessarily require an R, but it still ended up pretty tense and relatively violent. And besides, if X-Files can get away with that Homecoming episode on network tv back in 1996 then Im sure NBC can scare up some (relatively) troubling stuff here too, if that's what is called for
Brad Anderson deserves more credit
by Jonah Echo
Mar 3rd, 2008
02:43:24 PM
I havebt seen his ep(Sounds Like) but was it any good? All I know is that Session 9 and The Machinist were freaky good genre filmmaking. I like too that Anderson is versatile. I love Happy Accidents.
Congrats Drew
by the podosphere
Mar 3rd, 2008
02:49:35 PM
Good on ya!
John's Participation...
by TheRealMoriarty
Mar 3rd, 2008
03:28:22 PM
... all depends on scheduling. John was a big part of the development of the script for this episode, and it was actually born out of a conversation on the set of PRO-LIFE. Obviously we'd love to have him back and work with him again, but if it's not for this series, we'll just have to catch up with him on the bigscreen... soon...
I'm not really optimistic about it's chances.
by BrandonGK
Mar 3rd, 2008
03:29:58 PM
It sound interesting, but sci-fi programming on a major network is always an iffy proposition, (with the exception of The X Files, Lost, or Heroes) and I can't really think of any sci-fi/horror anthology series that's lasted more than a year or so on a network since the 60s/70s.
Urban Gothic much???
by James_O'Nasty
Mar 3rd, 2008
04:55:02 PM
At least 3 of these are obvious "samplings" of classic Urban Gothic episodes, and they will be remade of us "brainless Americans." Fucking swell.
Community...
by BLIND ALBINO PENGUINS
Mar 3rd, 2008
04:57:35 PM
Sounds like a ripoff of the X-Files episode "Arcadia" sans the Ubermenscher.
One is these things is not like the other....
by fishpillow
Mar 3rd, 2008
05:23:39 PM
Landis, Bousman, Yu, Anderson, Routh, McWeeny & Swan
Another horror anthology?
by skywalkerfamily
Mar 3rd, 2008
05:33:21 PM
Didn't the last one on ABC bomb?
O Rly Mori??
by IndustryKiller!
Mar 3rd, 2008
06:02:52 PM
Teaming up with Carpenter for a feature? Well that's pretty fucking awesome news. I hope to hell that it's a return to his genius form.
Only Carpenter Will Succeed
by RaRoMo
Mar 3rd, 2008
06:33:15 PM
Masters of Horror sucked. The directors were great, the writers so-so, but the final screenplays were as small as blueberries rolling into the immense orange rotation of the sun. Horror won't work until the networks buy really original stories, which they haven't yet. This latest venture sounds like a snooze fest. No true horror, just white and red plastic Dracula fangs. If all your episodes are going to be based on what puppies wrote, you're never going to get to the rabid dog authors.
Wanna see something scary?
by thegreatwhatzit
Mar 3rd, 2008
07:47:37 PM
Try the original THRILLER series (aka BORIS KARLOFF'S THRILLER). Yeah, it's vintage (early 60s) but early episodes are TRULY scary. I challenge any of you diehards to watch the "Hungry Glass" episode with the lights off (script by Robert Bloch, cast includes Bill Shatner and Russell Johnson). The b&w photography and lush, spooky sets contributed to the goosebumps. The Sci-Fi Channel once televised the show but they're now preoccupied with working on their own franchise--like making a sequel to BELA LUGOSI MEETS A BROOKLYN GORILLA or whatever.
Congratses Mori & Obi
by BrandLoyalist
Mar 3rd, 2008
08:05:16 PM
I don't have Showtime, but this I'll see
Thriller
by wilbur gray
Mar 3rd, 2008
08:43:56 PM
Good call,Whatzit.If Sci-fi channel ran marathons of Thriller's horror episodes,it would become nearly as popular as Twilight Zone or the Honeymooners.Pigeons from Hell is another great episode.By the way,is Drew's episode in any way based on Karloff's Black Sabbath segment?His grandfather character in that returned to his family as a vampire after a long absence.
Wilbur...
by TheRealMoriarty
Mar 3rd, 2008
09:43:07 PM
... nope. Ours was inspired by some reading I did about the origin of the Wendigo myth, and also by a viewing of the Robert Mitchum film TRACK OF THE CAT while we were making PRO-LIFE.
I'd rather watch The Waltons
by Pizza The Hut
Mar 3rd, 2008
09:49:17 PM
...but thanks.
Anybody remember Monsters?
by Blud
Mar 3rd, 2008
10:13:35 PM
I love it when Sci-Fi plays those Tales From the Darkside marathons. Distant Signals is a real piece of work. But does anybody remember the lower budget Monsters show that always started with the family of monsters sitting down to watch the show? Man, there were quite a bit of poor episodes, but even at their worst, they were more entertaining than Masters of Horror, which simply tries too hard to skip by on gore, profanity and sex. Glim Glim was one of the greatest, and saddest episodes of Monsters. Feverman, Portrait of the Artist, Holly's House, Bond of Silk, The Moving Finger, Habitat, Perchance to Dream. GREAT SHOW.
It will be scary, Count Floyd. Scary, scary stuff.
by kabong
Mar 3rd, 2008
10:15:30 PM
It will be like that Ellen Page segment on SNL. Close the mirrored door of cabinet and glimpse scary person. Scaring myself just thinking about it.
They've been trying for decades...
by Sick Fixx
Mar 3rd, 2008
10:20:05 PM
But they will never surpass Rod Serling in this genre. Twilight Zone and Night Gallery possess some of the most poignant episodes in horror tv history. They're Tearing Down Tim O'Riley's Bar was the stuff of true passion. Nick of Time was so simple, about a couple in a diner obsessed with a fortune telling machine. Rod Serling was a rebel. Everybody else who's tried at anthology horror just followed formula. And yes, I do remember Monsters. It was cheesy, but fun.
ERIC ROBERTS!
by caruso_stalker217
Mar 4th, 2008
01:48:58 AM
YEAH! FUUCK YEAH!
All I Want...
by TheRealMoriarty
Mar 4th, 2008
02:13:44 AM
... is to do something half as effective as William Friedkin's "Nightcrawlers," the scariest network TV episode I ever saw, part of the '80s TWILIGHT ZONE revival. If we can pull that off on a network, I'll be a happy man.
Masters Of Horror was hit and miss...
by Tourist
Mar 4th, 2008
05:24:30 AM
...Like, two hits and a whole lot of misses. Is this the toothless version? I think the constraints imposed by it being regular TV will help excuse its failings. Plus, if they show it late at night between phone sex ads, it will bring back nostalgia of past cheesy horror anthologies like Freddys Nightmares or Monsters.
Hey...
by Tourist
Mar 4th, 2008
05:26:38 AM
...The goriest episode was the only truly successful one of the whole two series. Miikes work was an actual stand alone great little film. The rest were borderline turd water to kind of okay sorta. Except Mountain Road, which I could see some people lumping in with the others, but I felt really stood out and was top notch for its constraints. Plus I think the chick in it deserved to go places and Embry actually showed some spark as an actor. Oh vell.
Salvas creepiest lithe homo worship flick to date...
by Tourist
Mar 4th, 2008
05:28:41 AM
...Was his last. Peaceful Warrior. He loves him some strapping young lads stretching and contorting and sweating. I'd be less inclined to judge him if it had been about female gymnasts, of course.
Sounds like Witch Pig Revenge
by ThePilgrim
Mar 4th, 2008
06:34:25 AM
Figures...
Monsters was sometimes cool..sometimes funny
by Jonah Echo
Mar 4th, 2008
07:18:40 AM
I recall Monsters. Don't know all the titles of eps, but I enjoyed the one involving the Feverman and the ep where steve buscemi runs into the mythical Circe and gets turned into a pig.Why isnt that on dvd?

Mori, your ep sounds cool and its odd, because the first thing I thought of was the wendigo when you mentioned the guy coming back from the woods possibly posessed. As a kid I always found the wendigo myths the creepiest(I think it was the vagueness of the monster-it could ultimately be almost anything), and for a long time there was never a good representation on film. Since we have had Larry Fessenden's takes(he seems kind of obsessed since both Wendigo and The Last Winter offered up different interpretations with his same monster design)and there was the goofy sort of mythology that Ravenous used, but it was more black comedy than horror. Anyway, all that to say that I will be definitely tuning into what you have conjured provided NBC airs it and they actually play it in the correct timeslot. It was like a monumental feat to catch that episode of MOFSF that Harlan Ellison/Jonathan Frakes did.

Nightcrawlers!
by Jonah Echo
Mar 4th, 2008
07:22:44 AM
Was that the Robert Mcammon story where the vietnam vet is having deadly hallucinations that become manifest in a little diner or something? I recall seeing that as a kid on tv, and it being extremely scary to me-part of it was the perfectly surreal vibe they managed to capture and the fact that for a moment it seemed to stop being a low budget tv show and started being a hard-edged action-horror.And that was a short little ep too. Was it even a half hour? If thats the kind of effect you are going for Mori, I think you are WAY on the right track.
Elevator Music
by MajorMajorMajor
Mar 4th, 2008
07:31:39 AM
Here's the thing; elevator music is still elevator music even if it’s Beethoven who’s picked up the quill to provide the melody.

For the most part, the Masters of Horror series only underlined why a lot of these guys had become sidelined, and only worked sporadically for a decade or more. Given a free hand with the gore by Showtime, they traded bloody effects for the genuine horror that the series demanded; cheap sensationalism for tight plotting and character, and to me, it seemed that the whole thing was aimed squarely at the readership of Fangoria magazine.

There isn’t anything wrong with blood and gore; you’ve just got to earn the splatter moment, guys!

The producers of this new series should really think about the great shock moments from anthology shows in the past, the Twilight Zones, the Outer Limits, the Alfred Hitchcock Presents and ask what it was that made them great? It was their power to engage you, to creep you out, not just to gross you out.

My Witch
by ThePilgrim
Mar 4th, 2008
07:38:24 AM
A Giant Wild Razorback attacks The Herder's and his Cattle. The Herder fights back and shoots the beast several times, to no avail- The herder abondons the remaining cattle and barely escapes the Beast.

This Wildhog isn't just a Hog. It's made up of several parts of other animals- These replacement parts cover previous damaged flesh. No doubt the beast the Herder encountered is the legend long since spoken around that area. A Witch's Pig name Harold.

(That sounds like your story and then I'd guess that later on the Hog comes back for the man and his family. And it's likely taking place in anywhere from 30 to 50 years or more back from now)

I talked to you in the Chatroom here about a story my Grams told me, about a pig named Witches Pig named "Harold" who sought revenge. I told you that I was adapting it into a screenplay and that I also found the story it was based on. Called Raw Head & Bloody Bones. I told you and the other in that chat That I would call my take on the tale Witch Pig's Revenge, and then I proceeded to post in that chatroom the following plot/treatment \/ which I also emailed to myself.

Witch Pigs Revenge. 200 years ago a hunter from a small village got lost in the woods for several days. After being lost for such a long time he noticed some smoke drifting through the tops of the trees. He followed the smoke and it lead to a cabin. It was coming from the cabins chimney place. The exterior of the cabin is lined with animal pelts, rope strung bottles hung from the roof and under the awning they are full of flesh based animal parts, eyes and heads and paws and tails and tounges. A few dozen creep wind chimes made with squirrel, possum frog and fox bone hang from tree surrounding the cabin they make errie whistling noises. In the back is a pig pen the words "HAROLD" are craved into the sign on the gate.

The hunter reluctantly knocks on the cabins doors.

A decrepit ugly old hag answers.

The hunter tells her that he has lost his way and that he is hungry and wonders if she can spare him food and show him how to return to his village.

She lets him inside and offers him a drink. She places a few rabbits and some cabbage into a pot she puts it over the fire.

Harold comes storming down the stairs.

Standing 11 feet tall on his hind legs. The beast stares at The Hunter. The beast turns his attention to the old woman.

HAROLD: "I hope you made enough for me"

The hunter nearly pisses himself.

Harold grabs a chair, he sits down.

Hunter: "The Hog, it's talking.."

Old Woman: "Yes, Harold can talk"

Hunter: "It walks like a man"

Old Woman: "Yes, Harold walks like Us"

Old woman: "Heres your rabbit stew, eat while it's hot..."

Hunter: "Your a witch!"

Old Woman: "We have a smart one here...Hehehe. Yes I'm a witch and this is my friend Harold. He was a normal Pig once, but he kept sifting through my trash. He ate all my left over potions and soon he was walking and talking and thinking just like you and I. I used to live in the same village you came from. That town drove me and my family away ages ago... They didn't take a liking to our beliefs and practices, and that's why I have poisoned you dear."

Hunter: "poisoned....." The hunter jumps Harold is behind the hunter lickity split holding a knife to his throat. Harold: "You better sit down and finish you meal or I'll make you mine. This is happen much to often now why do they always come here?" Old Woman. "Harold put down the knife. Listen to me The poison has an antidote. I will give it to you before you leave as well as instructions to find your way back to your village. Theres a catch. The antidote will make you forget the a days worth of memory. So if you take it before you find you way back you'll be lost again. You must take it after you know where you are. After you take it you will remember none of this. Do you understand?" Hunter: "Yes" Old Woman: "Good. You have to understand. I don't bother anyone and neither does Harold. We don't want trouble." The Old woman tells the hunter the way back home through song. She makes him recite it several times. She places the antidote in a glass jar. and sends him off. The hunter sings the song as he wanders back taking note of each landmark that resembles the words in the song. The hunter is nearly home when the poison starts to take affect. The hunter falls over a rock breaking the jar containing the antidote. it pours into the ground below him. The hunter starts to cry he screams for help.. The villagers hear his cries. They run out to him. He tells them of the witch and the pig and the poison and the antidote and the song to get out, and then his flesh turns black under the rising moon and he dies. The villagers grabs torches and pitchforks and rope. They mount their horses and head out to the woods singing the song to find they're way. They storm the cabin. Harold fights them, killing one of them outright. They shoot him in the eye. He plucks the dead villagers eye out and he races off into the woods. They tie the old woman up by her hands and set her cabin on fire. They drag the poor woman through the woods by horse she howls like a choked cat. They arrive back in the town and head towards the church. The cobble stone road tears the already raw back of the witch wide open leaving bloody trail. She has passed out from the pain. They throw a troft of horse urine in her face waking her up. They toss a length of rope over the Weeping Willow tree facing the church. They hang her. Harold see this from the edge of the wood. Where his pig eye was removed now rest the human eye he took. A week goes by and the hunters score the woods looking for Harold. They do not find him The following week on the same day that the Witch was hung the town wakes up to find all of their cattle set on fire and slaughtered. One of them sees Harold and he shots at Harold hitting him in the leg. The spend the next few days looking for Harold in the woods. They do not find him. Harold attacks again this time he destroys the villages crops. Another person see him he notices that Harold replaced his leg with the leg of a Deer. He shoots Harold and hits him in the rear destroying Harold's tail. The villagers comb the woods looking for Harold. but they do not find him they decide to set the woods on fire. Hoping it will drive Harold out It doesn't work.. A few night later the villagers wake up to find all of their children and babies missing. Some dead babies are seen hanging from the tree were they hung the old witch. The villagers go to the edge of the woods They plead with Harold to return the rest of the children unharmed. They promise to do anything and leave him be. Harold screams back from the woods. Harold responds from deep in the woods. Cut down the tree where you hung my mother and place a monument there for her bury her remains under I. Burn down your church and never build on that land again. Or I will come back too destroy you all.

The villages cut down the tree they bury the witches remains there. They place a stone plaque that reads Loving Mother of the Hog-Scald Hollow. in the trees place and they burn down the church.

The following night the children run out of the woods screaming for their parents.

They tell them about the kind pig who played games with them and had a human eye a deers leg an a coons tail.

200 years pass and the legend is believed to be a fairy tale. Teens desecrate the area and dig up the witches remains wondering if the tale be true.

Harold returns with a vengeance.

No fucking edit button, and too many beers
by ThePilgrim
Mar 4th, 2008
08:03:26 AM
A Giant Wild Razorback attacks The Herder's and his Cattle. The Herder fights back and shoots the beast several times, too no avail- The herder abondons the remaining cattle and barely escapes the Beast.

This Wildhog isn't just a Hog. It's made up of several parts of other animals- These replacement parts cover previous damaged flesh. No doubt the Beast the Herder encountered is the legend long since spoken around that area. A Witch's Pig name Harold.

(That sounds like your story and then I'd guess that later on the Hog comes back for the man and his family. And it's more than likely taking place 30 to 50 years or more back from now)

I talked to you in the Chatroom about a story my Grams told me, about a Witches Pig named "Harold" who sought revenge.

I told you that I was adapting it into a screenplay and that I also found the story it was based on the net- gave you the link to it as well. The original story is called "Raw Head & Bloody Bones."

I told you and the others in that chatroom, that I would call my take on the tale "Witch Pig's Revenge" and then I proceeded too post in that chatroom the following plot/treatment \/ which I also emailed to myself.

Witch Pigs Revenge. 200 years ago a hunter from a small village got lost in the woods for several days. After being lost for such a long time he noticed some smoke drifting through the tops of the trees. He followed the smoke and it lead to a cabin. It was coming from the cabins chimney place. The exterior of the cabin is lined with animal pelts, rope strung bottles hang from the roof and under the awning- they are full of flesh based animal parts, eyes, and heads, and paws and tails, and tounges. A few dozen creepy wind chimes made with squirrel, possum frog and fox bone hang from tree surrounding the cabin- they make errie whistling noises. In the back is a pig pen the words "HAROLD" are carved into the sign on the gate.

The hunter reluctantly knocks on the cabins doors.

A decrepit ugly old hag answers.

The hunter tells her that he has lost his way and that he is hungry and wonders if she can spare him food and show him how to return to his village.

She lets him inside and offers him a drink. She places a few rabbits and some cabbage into a pot she puts it over the fire.

Harold comes storming down the stairs.

Standing 11 feet tall on his hind legs. The beast stares at The Hunter. The beast turns his attention to the old woman.

HAROLD: "I hope you made enough for me"

The hunter nearly pisses himself.

Harold grabs a chair, he sits down.

Hunter: "The Hog, it's talking.."

Old Woman: "Yes, Harold can talk"

Hunter: "It walks like a man"

Old Woman: "Yes, Harold walks like Us"

Old woman: "Heres your rabbit stew, eat while it's hot..."

Hunter: "Your a witch!"

Old Woman: "We have a smart one here...Hehehe. Yes I'm a witch and this is my friend Harold. He was a normal Pig once, but he kept sifting through my trash. He ate all my left over potions and soon he was walking and talking and thinking just like you and I. I used to live in the same village you came from. That town drove me and my family away ages ago... They didn't take a liking to our beliefs and practices, and that's why I have poisoned you dear."

Hunter: "poisoned....."

The hunter jumps up, Harold is behind the hunter lickity split holding a knife to his throat.

Harold: "You better sit down and finish you meal or I'll make you mine. This is happening much to often now, why do they always come here?"

Old Woman. "Harold put down the knife. Listen to me The poison has an antidote. I will give it to you before you leave as well as instructions to find your way back to your village. Theres a catch. The antidote will make you forget the a days worth of memory. So if you take it before you find your way back you'll be lost again. You must take it after you know where you are. After you take it you will remember none of this. Do you understand?"

Hunter: "Yes"

Old Woman: "Good. You have to understand. I don't bother anyone and neither does Harold. We don't want trouble."

The Old woman tells the hunter the way back home through song. She makes him recite it several times. She places the antidote in a glass jar. and sends him off.

The hunter sings the song as he wanders back taking note of each landmark that resembles the words in the song.

The hunter is nearly home when the poison starts to take affect. The hunter falls over a rock breaking the jar containing the antidote. it pours into the ground below him.

The hunter starts to cry he screams for help.. The villagers hear his cries.

They run out too him. He tells them of the witch and the pig and the poison and the antidote and the song too get out, and then his flesh turns black under the rising moon and he dies.

The villagers grabs torches and pitchforks and rope. They mount their horses and head out to the woods singing the song to find they're way.

They storm the cabin. Harold fights them, killing one of them outright. They shoot him in the eye. He plucks the dead villagers eye out, and he races off into the woods.

They tie the old woman up by her hands and set her cabin on fire. They drag the poor woman through the woods by horse, she howls like a choked cat. They arrive back in the town and head towards the church. The cobble stone road tears the already raw back of the witch wide open leaving a bloody trail. She has passed out from the pain.

They throw a pail of horse urine in her face waking her up.

They toss a length of rope over the Weeping Willow tree facing the church.

They hang her. Harold see this from the edge of the woods. Where his pig eye was removed now rest the human eye he took.

A week goes by and the hunters scour the woods looking for Harold. They do not find him

The following week on the same day that the Witch was hung the town wakes up to find all of their cattle set on fire and slaughtered.

One of them sees Harold, he shots at Harold hitting him in the leg.

They spend the next few days looking for Harold in the woods.

They do not find him.

Harold attacks again. This time he destroys the villages crops. Another person see him, he notices that Harold replaced his leg with the leg of a Deer.

He shoots Harold and hits him in the rear destroying Harold's tail.

The villagers comb the woods looking for Harold. but they do not find him. They decide to set the woods on fire. Hoping it will drive Harold out

It doesn't work..

A few night later the villagers wake up to find all of their children and babies missing.

Some dead babies are seen hanging from the tree were they hung the old witch.

The villagers go to the edge of the woods. They plead with Harold to return the rest of the children unharmed. They promise too do anything and leave him be. Harold Booming voice responds from deep in the woods.

"Cut down the tree where you hung my Mother, and place a monument there for her, bury her remains under it. Burn down your church and never build on that land again. Or I will come back too destroy you all"

The villagers cut down the tree, they bury the witches remains there. They place a stone plaque that reads "Loving Mother of The Hog-Scald Hollow" in the trees place. They burn down the church.

The following night the children run out of the woods screaming for their parents.

They tell them about the kind pig who played games with them and had a human eye, a deers leg, and a coons tail.

200 years pass and the legend is believed to be a fairy tale.

Teens desecrate the area and dig up the witches remains, wondering if the tale be true.

Harold returns with a vengeance.

Shit, Sorry, My Bad Mori
by ThePilgrim
Mar 4th, 2008
08:21:38 AM
Your Character struggles with possession after being lost in the woods.

Wiki on Wendigo sounds like this guys gonna look pretty fucking gruesome as he loses the battle with the possession, and it explains the name "Skin and Bones" which I misread and thought-Oh great here comes a Rawhead and Bloody Bones adapt from a guy I was talking to about my attempt at it- Well Fuckkkkkk Me!

My bad, and Apologies. Fuck the wiki has my interest peaked I saw another Wendigo flick a few yeas back involving some guy getting shot while sledding with his son. Was pretty cool.

Now you got me wondering
by ThePilgrim
Mar 4th, 2008
08:27:41 AM
Lost in the woods for some time. Did he go cannibal to survive. It says he was only lost for days in the plot summary. Not long enough to resort to that and he was herding cattle so that's an instant food supply. Will be interesting is seeing how his possession is explained.
Masters of Horror...
by fishpillow
Mar 4th, 2008
09:43:50 AM
was the biggest missed opportunity in the history of horror. You had 13 guys 2 different times with NO restrictions except budget and with the exception of Stuart Gordon they almost all blew it! Sad but true.
I don't recall a single BAD episode.
by gotilk
Mar 4th, 2008
10:12:26 AM
There were some GREAT ones, but I do not recall any truly bad ones. Even the ones that missed the mark a bit were better than 80% of the horror out there. I swear, some of you guys are like those immature guys in college that actually had a shot with a 7, while being a 5, wasting all of your time on a 9 that laughs at you when you walk away. Not only that, but you talk crap about the 7 behind her back and are actually convinced the 9 is "playing hard to get" with you and those terrible things she says to your face are "banter".
Mori deserves credit for Cigarette Burns
by TheLastCleric
Mar 4th, 2008
04:07:14 PM
In my estimation that remains the best episode of Masters of Horror to date. I also liked Pro Life quite a bit and the aesthetic nod to the Doom games was a nice touch. I know some people like to give Drew shit but so far I’ve actually enjoyed his work. He’s certainly churning out better ideas than most of the hacks writing horror films these days.
The thing that most dissapointed me about Masters...
by Tourist
Mar 4th, 2008
04:26:58 PM
...Was that they were supposedly given free reign. Heres a million bucks, do what you want. And what dream projects did these (Many of them long out of work or frustrated) film makers want to do? Half assed short story adaptations and bad TV scripts. They all seemed to be Wash Outs, rather than Masters. Watching the Landis one was disheartening. He just didn't give a shit. It was an excuse to cash a cheque and fuck around with his son on some shitty, half baked project.
Last Cleric...
by Tourist
Mar 4th, 2008
04:29:16 PM
...Maybe Theodore Roszak deserves credit for Cigarette Burns.
Thank god
by Series7
Mar 4th, 2008
06:22:21 PM
They are doing this and not that terrible Heroes spin off idea.
Re: Bousman is more of a "Master" ....
by Matthew Martinez
Mar 4th, 2008
06:25:28 PM

Say what you will about Malone, but I think McKee is a really good filmmaker. "Sick Girl" is my favorite episode of the series, and I'd trade a million hacky Saw films for one movie like May. I'll admit that The Woods and Roman, though not actually directed by McKee, are nothing to write home about, but May is such a wonderful movie. The fact that it was made feels like a small miracle.

Oh, and I've only seen Saw II, but based on that, there's no way Bousman is more of a "Master..." than McKee. Seriously, the Saw series just needs to stop. Now.

Re: Roman
by Matthew Martinez
Mar 4th, 2008
06:26:54 PM
Above, I meant to say that Roman wasn't directed by McKee; he only wrote it. The Woods is indeed directed by him although not written by him.
New Year's Day
by Some farts really stink.
Mar 4th, 2008
07:43:47 PM
Looking forward to that because I'm a zombie whore.
McKee/Bousman...
by Tourist
Mar 4th, 2008
09:45:44 PM
...Whats the difference. Well, I'll be fair, McKee had one good film under his belt. Too bad hes either hit a wall in regards to talent or luck at the moment. Sick Girl was fucking awful. Flat and dull. It was the only episode I couldn't struggle through to the end. The Woods was a disaster, and he got his ass fired from his last film for not being up to snuff. All a shame really. At least Bousman would have his piles of money to sleep in. Plus he made the sensible move of realising how shit he was and churning out sequals, instead of venturing into other fields like Wan who flushed himself down the toilet back to Australia.
I'm afraid on network TV
by skimn
Mar 5th, 2008
12:40:22 PM
this will fail as did Masters Of Science Fiction. Curious as to where this will be buried (the last months of summer..). Sad to say, with the success of the Saw franchise ( and Hostel to a degree) and the slow failure of PG-13 Japan-type horror, the modern average viewer needs to be bludgeoned with gore and profanity to keep interested. Creepy atmosphere, scary concepts and mood, which shows like Twilight Zone and Outer Limits excelled in, would be wasted on the masses today.
Slower doesn't mean better
by Sick Fixx
Mar 5th, 2008
07:23:44 PM
I'm sorry, but that Japanese Ring/Ringu/One Missed Call/Dark Water kind of horror isn't any more superior than the gory fleshtraps of Saw, Hostel and Wolf Creek. Mediocrity is not brilliant, even though the Sundance crowd tries to at least once a year with hipster flicks like Brown Bunny, Juno and Magnolia. Rod Serling was the master of anthology horror, but not because his episodes were slower. They were better all around; Better concepts, better plot development, WAY WAY WAY better dialogue.
Carpenter & Landis...
by xannibal
Mar 5th, 2008
07:40:45 PM
Were literally stone cold genuises at their creative height. But now...not so much.
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