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by all
Feb 29th, 2008
09:45:11 AM
not first
by irrelevntelefant
Feb 29th, 2008
09:47:11 AM
heat II sounds like
by pipergates
Feb 29th, 2008
09:47:18 AM
will see this
fifty cent...
by all
Feb 29th, 2008
09:47:19 AM
sucks
Fifth!
by 20 inch Pythons
Feb 29th, 2008
09:47:57 AM
meh.
THAT WAS P-L-A-N-T-A-S-T-I-C!!!
by BringingSexyBack
Feb 29th, 2008
09:48:58 AM
Not really but it was going to be said.
that first review was great
by Lost Jarv
Feb 29th, 2008
09:50:49 AM
I especially liked " imagined a visual effect of a big rubber stamp punching the words "WHO CARES?" on the screen in deep red ink"
um, so, sounds, er, really...okay?
by just pillow talk
Feb 29th, 2008
09:54:10 AM
Maybe they'll tighten it up a bit and get rid of the pounding music?
Carla Gugino... sigh...
by acorvey25
Feb 29th, 2008
09:55:35 AM
Me and that picture have had some good times together. Ah, memories...
no that second review IS plantastic
by Holodigm
Feb 29th, 2008
09:55:43 AM
"loved the intro!" "they have my $9.50!"
can't get any more blatant than that.
Pass
by moondoggy2u
Feb 29th, 2008
09:56:22 AM
As much as I like the two leads, or, more accurately, likED, I'll not see a movie that only exists to capitalize on the success of Heat, a completely different film made by completely different people.
Turk and Rooster?
by irrelevntelefant
Feb 29th, 2008
09:56:35 AM
really...
Congratulations, Buftar
by MorbidObesity
Feb 29th, 2008
10:00:37 AM
As noted, that line about the rubber stamp was one of the funniest things to ever run in an AICN review.
ANYTHING with John Leguizamo is the kiss of death, IMHO...
by Nosferatu Jones
Feb 29th, 2008
10:01:47 AM
Can't stand this guy in anything I've ever seen him in. He's like the hispanic Emilio Estevez... everything he touches turns to c-r-a-p.
Nahh, he's even worse than Estevez
by moondoggy2u
Feb 29th, 2008
10:04:29 AM
At least estevez has some charisma and wasn't dumb enough to put on clown makeup...

Also, Estevez was at least able to carry Young Guns. You put Leguizamo in that role and you're liable to throw food at the tv set.

the director was there somewhere in the bad
by felt pelt
Feb 29th, 2008
10:04:57 AM
These actors are so much fun but the chance of them appearing in well-written material, and appearing in well-written and directed material together, again, is low.
I still havent figured out why Leguizamo gets roles
by moondoggy2u
Feb 29th, 2008
10:05:41 AM
Maybe affirmative action or something?
can of coke hits $1!!!
by moondoggy2u
Feb 29th, 2008
10:25:03 AM
Minimum Wage hits $7.50!!
by moondoggy2u
Feb 29th, 2008
10:25:31 AM
Gallon of milk hits $4 a gallon!!!
by moondoggy2u
Feb 29th, 2008
10:26:21 AM
let's hear it for stagflation!
by just pillow talk
Feb 29th, 2008
10:45:24 AM
wa-hoo.
DeNiro and Pacino's last good movie was Heat
by kwisatzhaderach
Feb 29th, 2008
10:54:10 AM
was there ever two more talented actors who let their careers turn to shit?
OK
by kwisatzhaderach
Feb 29th, 2008
10:55:38 AM
I forgot about The Insider. But you know what i'm getting at.
DeNiro's last good movie was Ronin
by just pillow talk
Feb 29th, 2008
10:56:30 AM
in my opinion.
You're not lying just pillow talk
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
Feb 29th, 2008
11:15:05 AM
He's been sleepwalking through roles since. Some bad choices, and some bad acting since. It's a shame because we love Bob, but he need to reignite the fire.
one wonders why he picked some of the stuff he did
by just pillow talk
Feb 29th, 2008
11:17:41 AM
since. Quite the opposite of say, Clint, who's later roles were fantastic and fit him well.
Does Pacino scream a lot?
by I Dunno
Feb 29th, 2008
11:24:27 AM
And does Gugino get naked?
Have a spoiler tag there, if there isn't.
by ricarleite
Feb 29th, 2008
11:35:14 AM
Straight to video, yay!
Are these guys really good actors?
by I Dunno
Feb 29th, 2008
11:58:42 AM
They have imposing personalities and were in some of the best movies made in the last 40 years but they really pretty much only play themselves. Same goes for Nicholson and Eastwood. I like them, don't get me wrong but they're not exactly chameleons.
woo woo what are you?
by PedroM
Feb 29th, 2008
12:09:55 PM
a fucking owl? no, Rooster! you know it had to be done!
50 cent worth of steroids
by picardsucks
Feb 29th, 2008
12:10:47 PM
Why does holliwood feel the need to continuely cram hip hop trash down our throats??? There are many fine black actors not getting jobs because some cokehead Eastern European Eurotrash producers in hollywood feel the need to saturate otherwise decent films with rap stars. Douche bags !!! Enough with the hip hop music video movies. Please just go the fuck away. Thank god for Johnnie To
John Leguizamo turns in a very refreshing performance playing Of
by skimn
Feb 29th, 2008
12:14:28 PM
...nice...
That second reviewer...
by Blood Simple
Feb 29th, 2008
12:28:51 PM
I really hope you are foreign, or at the very least that English is your second language, because that review read like a blind retard. This is why focus groups for movies don't work - we have people like this voicing their misspelled opinions.
50 cent + Pacino +DeNiro
by dr sauch
Feb 29th, 2008
01:25:48 PM
equals solid gold. i don't care about any other aspect of the film. not one. just having those three having a possible scene together is too good to pass up.
stoked
by polsciwifi
Feb 29th, 2008
01:39:43 PM
bob n' al. 'nuff said. bob n' f'n al. i need some tissues.
Not sure which I'm more excited about
by Fiction Romantic
Feb 29th, 2008
02:13:22 PM
DePac OR Cugino/De Niro sex.
Wow, Dont tell me Millenium films made a bad movie!?
by Tourist
Feb 29th, 2008
02:16:26 PM
Is that even possible? Actually, Rambo was pretty good.
Speaking of Rambo
by Fiction Romantic
Feb 29th, 2008
02:30:45 PM
Where's the red band trailer for this movie?
Please post next screening
by Pickin up on the Stick Up
Feb 29th, 2008
02:40:22 PM
Fuck all that. I'm going to see this first chance I get. They could remake My Dinner With Andre and it'd kick more ass than 90% of what's out there. Please post next time there is a screening.
Range
by a rolling stone
Feb 29th, 2008
02:46:25 PM
You can't say these two don't have some range. Watch The Devil's Advocate back-to-back with Donny Brasco, then watch Cape Fear back-to-back with The Score. Hell, then watch Heat again. I think I just planned out my own Sunday!
Doesn't sound promising.
by TattooedBillionaire
Feb 29th, 2008
02:49:27 PM
What happened to these guys? Pacino and DeNiro should still be kicking our collective ass. Instead, we're getting "Hide and Seek" and "Simone" Pacino was good, though, in "Insomnia."
A September release date..?
by skimn
Feb 29th, 2008
03:17:18 PM
Did Uwe Boll direct this?
GIMMEALLYAGOTGIMMEALLYAGOT!
by Osmosis Jones
Feb 29th, 2008
04:03:03 PM
You were CAWLIN' her, 'cuz she's got a...GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREAT ASS! And your head was ALL THE WAY UP IT!
Dennehy
by aversiontherapy2
Feb 29th, 2008
04:40:05 PM
At this point Dennehy has more prestige than than Pacino and De Niro. They seem to have followed the Michael Caine plan.
Pacino was a chameleon in the 70s/80s
by Prossor
Feb 29th, 2008
05:00:35 PM
he shook the screen in that era, not even DeNiro could reach that level as Scorsese eaked out a worthwile performance from him in Taxi Driver and Raging Bull
They filmed this down the street from my aunt
by Jackie Boy
Feb 29th, 2008
05:03:08 PM
And apparantly the set designer or something went to her pilates class a few times. She told my aunt the script was absolutely horrendous and the film was terrible, basically a fucking joke. I don't know how many of you watch MTV ('cause I don't) but apparently someone named 'Big Black' from one of their shows plays a skateboarding pimp or something. I can see it now: The fucking commercials playing on Mtv showcasing 50 and 'Big Black,' and all the punk assholes saying "yo this looks mad good like heat but better 'cause they in it." basically she said DePac would only take these roles because they wanted to have fun shooting a shitty movie together.
IMO, credit to one-note performers should go to casting agents,
by CreasyBear
Feb 29th, 2008
05:31:38 PM
not the actors. Gotta hamburger some sacred cows here, considering many award-winning actors, all the way from John Wayne to Cuba Gooding (Jerry Maguire Oscar), are just the casting powers-that-be fitting a personality to a role. The actors I respect the most gotta have range (e.g., Russell Crowe in The Insider and Gladiator, or Denzel Washington in Training Day and Malcolm X, or Tom Hanks in Philadelphia and Saving Private Ryan).
CreasyBear
by Jackie Boy
Feb 29th, 2008
05:35:36 PM
I agree, look at Christian Bale for example.
Greatest 'actor's movie of all time...
by SK229
Feb 29th, 2008
05:54:08 PM
is Dog Day Afternoon in my opinion. It's the one perfect performance ever for an actor. I think people who don't think they're good actors or that they're one-note haven't seen Pacino in movies like Scarecrow or Dog Day Afternoon. Or seen Deniro in The Deer Hunter or Bang the Drum Slowly... or hell, even Mean Streets. Or... ya know, The Godfather Part II... or Taxi Driver. Nicholson is the one person I would agree is playing Jaaaack, I mean that's what made him who he is. He's probably one of the last true 'stars', like John Wayne or Humphrey Bogart. But again, for him, you have to go back and see The Last Detail, Five Easy Pieces, and, of course, Cuckoo's Nest.
Naw no plantski's here.
by TomBodet
Feb 29th, 2008
06:07:04 PM
I think this should be good, I'll check it out.
Brian Dennehy.
by otm shank
Feb 29th, 2008
06:07:50 PM
He is America's answer to Otm Shank.
Looks like it's going to suck
by DARTH VOODOO
Feb 29th, 2008
06:36:11 PM
Don't get me wrong I love my fellow paisano's (Pacino + De Niro)but from the sneak previews of this film that have leaked to youtube it looks like just another stupid cops and robbers movie. It looks like an NBC movie of the week circa 1978. These two legends can come up with something better than just another cop movie. They should have done a gangster movie.
I worked on this film and it definitely
by The Gospel According to Bastardface
Feb 29th, 2008
06:56:27 PM
fucking stinks. The first review is bang on the money. Not to mention the main guys are called Rooster and Turk. No joke. Jon Avnet fucking sucks.
Bastardface
by Jackie Boy
Feb 29th, 2008
07:03:10 PM
you were in CT right? I remember them making a big deal about the filming, but I wasn't awaring of shooting anywhere else.
No, all shot in CT to make it look like NY.
by The Gospel According to Bastardface
Feb 29th, 2008
07:07:10 PM
Lots of CGI used for window mapping and such. The film is awful and I feel bad for all the cool guys involved. It's really disheartening but a job's a job.
I wonder what it was like on set
by Jackie Boy
Feb 29th, 2008
07:15:00 PM
Was everyone aware of what a piece of shit it was, and just did their jobs (including actors, director etc.) or were some people thinking this was gonna be a great one? Like, did the director think he was Michael Mann?
I shouldn't say much more
by The Gospel According to Bastardface
Feb 29th, 2008
07:21:31 PM
But not everyone had the script and many scenes were improvised (the gun range) but it has good actors doing their best. The director is just not right for this material and he cannot write for shit and he insisted on rewriting the script. It's just boring and so, so many scenes with characters talking on phones. Hilarious.
"I'm Brian Dennehy"
by performingmonkey
Feb 29th, 2008
08:11:42 PM
Where's the fucking F/X sequel?? Or the Cocoon remake with him as one of the old geezers?
Osmosis Jones:
by Rev. Slappy
Feb 29th, 2008
08:18:08 PM
The GREAT ASS scene in Heat is the greatest in the history of movies.
Deniro and Pachino have seen their heyday.
by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz
Feb 29th, 2008
08:37:00 PM
The roles they take now are chump roles and lack any substance because they don't care anymore.

I've not seen a good Deniro or Pachino movie since the time of Goodfellas back in the 90s. That was Deniros last movie that was decent. As far as Pachino goes it's Carltio's Way. Everything else since then, including HEAT has been shit.
TV MOVIE!
by skywalkerfamily
Feb 29th, 2008
08:38:42 PM
Sounds like a CBS Sunday night movie.
Pacino. Fuck I spelled it wrong.
by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz
Feb 29th, 2008
08:39:59 PM
didn't proof read before I hit post.
this had me at Deniro beating up 50Cent
by Itto Ogami loses Daigoro
Feb 29th, 2008
08:41:32 PM
A movie ticket well spent!
Wow! Johnny Legs AND Fiddy Cent?
by MaxTheSilent
Feb 29th, 2008
10:00:59 PM
Let me guess, they spent all their casting money on de Niro and Pacino? This movie sounds craptastic.
Why waste a good script and two legends on Jon Avnet?
by Doc_McCoy
Feb 29th, 2008
11:30:48 PM
De Niro and Pacino both have fairly abysmal track records over the last twenty years, but I'm clearly not alone in the desire to see these two (former?) legends on screen together in something great. I don't know the backstory of the project so I'm speaking out of my ass, but how the hell do you let a guy who's never directed a good movie (to be fair, plenty of middle-aged women might argue that Fried Green Tomatoes was great) direct a good script (it was a good script) with these two guys starring in it? Surely, there had to have been a few exciting directors interested. This could have been something memorable, but instead it sounds -- not surprisingly -- to be very ho hum. What a shame.
Two awesome actors, one shitty script
by skywalkerfamily
Feb 29th, 2008
11:32:10 PM
Typical Hollywood.
HEAT was an average movie...
by Fa Fa Fooey
Mar 1st, 2008
12:02:44 AM
Yes, the cast was great. But the script itself was long and meandering.
Heat is the SHHHHHIIIIIIIITTTTTT!!!!
by snakecharmer
Mar 1st, 2008
12:40:40 AM
I respect you having viewpoint but that doesn't take away from enjoyment when I pop that mofo into the dvd player.
Jon Avnet did a few episodes of Boomtown?
by hamslime
Mar 1st, 2008
02:40:16 AM
My ticket is bought! Next to Rescue Me and MacGyver, Boomtown has to be my favorite show ever.
No Way Would A Chick like Carla F an old man like Bobby D
by BigTuna
Mar 1st, 2008
04:18:30 AM
Really, who believes this chick. De Niro should be fucking Kathy Bates in the movie.
I'm against the very idea of this movie.
by Knuckleduster
Mar 1st, 2008
04:34:59 AM
It's a slap in Heat's face, if you ask. Goddammit, I love Heat. And part of what made it so special, was that it was the only film where you could see Pacino and De Niro share a screen. And sweet Lord, what an incredible two scenes they are. Heat does justice to everything these two iconic actors represent. Righteous Kill looks like nothing but a cheap gimmick. It has 50Cent in it, for crying out loud! I'm just gonna go to my happy place and pretend this movie doesn't exist.
I saw It......and it damn sure doesn't suck
by jjgittes
Mar 1st, 2008
05:09:24 AM
I was at this screening. Good film with both leads in terrific form - not surprising from Pacino who usually does something terrific periodically - think about it haters : DONNIE BRASCO; THE INSIDER; CHINESE COFFEE; INSOMNIA; PEOPLE I KNOW; ANGELS IN AMERICA; MERCHANT OF VENICE.........but DeNiro seems back on track here too for the first time in a looooong time. Their scenes together in this are great and hilarious in their back and forth banter. Not a slap in the face to HEAT at all, or in any way - I really hate people who want everything to be "perfect" - that was their only movie together blah blah blah. HEAT wouldn't be diminished in any respect regardless of what they did after. Anyway......it's good. It's a formula film but well done and well played. Fans of these two Gods are going to love the film; the rest of you can go to the latest CGI crapfest instead.
THE WORST THING...
by dante76
Mar 1st, 2008
05:34:03 AM
...that can happen to this movie is that it's average...average sucks. I'd rather it's just plain bad so I can hate it with a vengeance.
I know it's for the money and all, but....
by Piltdown Joey
Mar 1st, 2008
06:09:54 AM
...why do the suits keep wasting available film making resources on crap that forces rap/hip-hop culture down our throats? It's the kiss of death. I personally don't think that urban demographic is so valuable, and certainly not the most loyal to the industry. There'll be cheaply burned, miniDV filmed rip-offs sold off a blanket on the street corner of urban centers across the country the day after its release. Waste of potential.
Bastardface-dolly grip or crafts services???
by TomBodet
Mar 1st, 2008
07:46:06 AM
Jest wonderin'.
TomBodet
by The Gospel According to Bastardface
Mar 1st, 2008
09:16:49 AM
Fluffer.
-Nutter. Got it.
by TomBodet
Mar 1st, 2008
09:22:09 AM
Anyways. Was hoping they'd show in a better grade A effort than this. Hmmm.
Who? Who? What are ya, a fuckin' OWL?
by uss cygnus
Mar 1st, 2008
10:01:40 AM
I JUST HAD COFFEE WITH MCCAULEY A HALF-HOUR AGO!! ...Does ANYBODY know where these guys are at?!?
sounds like Black Dahlia 2
by Spandau Belly
Mar 1st, 2008
11:29:00 AM
A total fucking mess of a procedural / personal drama / twisty twist / buddy comedy / crime epic / vigilante / and probably a few other genres that the reviewers didn't mention.

Maybe the Cloverfield monster shows up too.
.......And Yet It's Not Black Dahlia 2
by jjgittes
Mar 1st, 2008
11:38:46 AM
Not a personal drama, not a buddy comedy, not a crime epic - it's a straight action-mystery with the humor coming in the Pacino-DeNiro vulgarities laden dialog.....it's a good film, and Pacino and DeNiro are in really good form. Will get better with some edits and tightening up - relax people, you're going to dig it; I'm telling - it tested well too.
Spring must be around the corner...
by BrandonGK
Mar 1st, 2008
12:06:53 PM
The plants are all starting to come in.
They should've thrown Jack Nicholson in there!
by MrMysteryGuest
Mar 1st, 2008
12:12:22 PM
It would've made a better movie!
"You talkin' to me?!? HOO-AHH!"
by MrMysteryGuest
Mar 1st, 2008
12:14:04 PM
GIMME ALL YA GOT! GIMME ALL YA GOT!
by Jackie Boy
Mar 1st, 2008
01:41:57 PM
To the plants: "Don't waste my MOTHERFUCKIN' TIME!"
Gotta Hold On To Your Angst People
by jjgittes
Mar 1st, 2008
01:51:49 PM
.....keeps you sharp, on the edge, where you gotta be.
Idiot Wind
by jjgittes
Mar 1st, 2008
02:09:37 PM
Sucked ; hated it; everything sucks; they're old; sucked; Cloverfield; PLANT!!!!!! Where these guys ever good? Who needs great actors anyway? CGI is better than De Niro and Pacino......Rap sux. Everything sux. Whattya mean it's good? PLANT !!! FIRST !!!
jjgittes
by Spandau Belly
Mar 1st, 2008
02:34:21 PM
I don't think it's unreasonable to have doubts about this movie's quality. There are some pretty bad track records at play here. I'm not saying you're wrong, maybe I'll love this movie, maybe it's the new Seven or the new Heat but I know you've seen these types of crime dramas go all wrong before and calling the cautious doubters "idiots" isn't really polite.
Point well taken, apologies
by jjgittes
Mar 1st, 2008
02:50:19 PM
I was trying to convey that negative comments feed on this board and anything positive is treated with scoffs of PLANT; it's more than just "cautious doubters", it's incredulous non-believers; I mean both of the reviews said the performances were good, and even the negative one can be read as something that would satisfy those looking for a straight genre piece .....But nevertheless, some of the posts on here are pretty baffling - Pacino hasn't done anything good in 20 years when Merchant of Venice was just 3 years ago....where's the memories of people who are posting?.....Anyway, based on the film I saw in Paramus, it is not another HEAT or another SE7EN......it's a pretty good, tough, entertaining film (or can easily be shaped into one), and will satisfy fans of the 2 leads. It's not great Art, but it delivers on the basic level.
The real killer...
by The_Deathticle
Mar 1st, 2008
03:06:24 PM
C'mon. It's Pacino, right? Ooooo, what a twist.
yeah, this "plant" stuff is always kinda obnoxious
by Spandau Belly
Mar 1st, 2008
03:19:13 PM
It does bug me that people assume anybody who says anything positive is being paid to. I mean c'mon, I have lots of friends who have terrible taste in movies and I know they're not being paid to say they thought Transformers or Van Helsing or whatever was good. In fact, most of the top grossing movies of any given week are lousy, do these talkbackers think it's that unlikely that somebody with bad taste could write a positive movie revue and email it to Harry?

Again, I'm not saying this movie is bad because I haven't seen it. I'm just saying that even if it is terrible, you don't have to pay people to like it, somebody will like it for free.
So...save me the 10 bucks...what's the TWIST?
by Executor
Mar 1st, 2008
04:27:11 PM
The Killer...? It ends up being Pacino? Dennehy? Or is it really DeNiro like it states from the beginning, but the twist is something else?
twist revealed in the other negative review
by jjgittes
Mar 1st, 2008
05:37:06 PM
...........which was just posted
I wasn't looking forward to this but
by CherryValance
Mar 1st, 2008
05:49:19 PM
now that I know Mr. 50 is only in it for 5 minutes, I think I might be able to make it through. I also have to once again stand up for John Leguizamo. I think he's a really good actor. Carlito's Way, Empire, Summer of Sam, I think he did really well in those movies.
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