And we have been lacking in Desmond this season. I'm missing him, brother.

It was way too much like the Oracle in the Matrix movies. I just hope it doesn't turn into the philsophical pretentious mess of the last 2 films.

and ForkTongue, they find each other so easily now because they are going to specific places. If you have to wander around and find someone it takes a long time, but if you know that they are likely at the beach or at the barracks you go directly to that location and it's no big deal.

Go figure.

as for Eggtown, i thought the dwelling on Kate's legal problems was reasonable enough: it'd have been lame if they didn't deal with it as a significant obstacle. plus i thought the final flashback redeemed any water-treading elsewhere in the ep.

Hell, I thought the oddest thing about it was that they were by the cockpit, which we haven't seen since season 1. Shouldn't there still be months old bodies in there?

While it is fun to be in the Lost universe, this isn;t really a game. All you do (so far) is walk around and pick things up and talk to people.

The character models range from dead on to completely laughable, most being the later. Only a few of the actual actors did voice work (i think Ben, Juliet, Sun,Desmond, and Claire) are original voices, the rest do not really sound much like the characters.

The game involves a guy named Elliot who wakes in the jungle with amnesia. He was on 815. His goal is to remeber who he is and get home. He experences some visions (like Jack and Hurley) of a girl he knows but doesnt know how. He is a journalist, so your first goal is to find your camera to jog your memory.

You walk around and ask different characters if they know you or if they know where your character is. You can ask them other stuff (using a list of prescribed questions) but you dont really get any answers. You do meet Kate and it launches your first flashback. You have pieces of a memory of Kate boarding the plane and you have to relive the scene and take a picture of the event to jog your memeory (this being Kate being in handcuffs. After you take the right photo you go back to present time and remeber that kate is a fugitive.

SPOILERS At the end of the first episode a guy approaches you in a suit and tie and asks for your camera, when you say you dont have it he punches you and says "I'm going to destroy that photo then kill you". He thens stomps your head and you black out. LOST End of first episode.

Episode 2 starts with Kate, Jack, and Charlie returning from the cockpit and being scared by the monster. You figure that your camera is in the cockpit but Jack wont let anyone go into the jungle. You play another flashback and realize that you have to lie to Jack to distract him. Once in the jungle Locke tells you about hiding in a thicket of trees which you will later use to escape from the smoke monster. You find Michael near a cave and he gives you a lighter. After traveling through the cave (and finding a dead polar bear) you make it out and reach the cockpit. After searching the cockpit and doing a stupide mini game you get your camera.

When you leave the cockpit you run into Ben and Juliet. They say something about "he might him or the one" and when you ask them who they are Ben replies "We're the good guys." Then Tom sneaks up and clubs you over the head and Juliet injects you with a needle.

LOST Episode two is done.

Overall the game is kinda boring so far, it was fun to talk to some characters but that gets old quick. I did manage to Gary Troupe myself by getting to close to the plane. As mentoined earlier there isn't much action yet, hopefully it will pick up. I'll keep ya posted if anything good happens.

Where did the Matrix ever mention anything whatsoever to do with Plato and Socrates? That was just typical, contemporary "seeing things that aren't actually there" angst from philsophically pretentious types...

What I can tell you is that Desmond does NOT die.

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And that is the fabled secret of the TB paragraphs.

Now I know.

Now I feel like I REALLY know.

I dont know. Still waiting/ hoping for that future death.

I've been assuming that Jin gets off the island along with Sun. That would add up to the right number of people in the O6. We've been told that we will know all of the O6 before the end of the first group of episodes. Of the episodes remaining in that group, only Sun and Jin have -centric episodes and were on the plane. To me, that sounds like they are the last two.

Then again, they could totally screw with us and have them get off the island and show us Jin dying during a flashforward. That would be weird. He'd still be on the show and still be around on the island, but we'd know he's dead later. I don't know if they'd do that or if my logic is correct about completing the O6, but it's an interesting idea.

I'm assuming Jack, Locke, and Ben. Are safe bets. Maybe a Locke flash forward when he is still on the island?

I would love for a Richard or Danielle Russuo (god I cant spell). Or maybe Widmore, Abbadon, or other Dharma figure, would be cool.

It will be interesting which five they decide to use for the rest of the season. Knowing what the producers have said about the point of this season, we probably wont get Richard or any other crazy flashbacks this season. We shall see...

It's like Bushco throwing out whatever sticks then pretending that was meant all along.

Locke is still a closet Mo. He did have Miles in Gay sex cuffs. And he actively pursued the young males of the show. And the FBI honeytrapped him with a young man.

It's a bummer, she's the only hott one left.....well Kate, but whatever.

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The shows dynamic seems a little of with otu him.

Could be a coincidence, I guess.

And a samurai sword.

Her psychic said "This child cannot be raised by another." Which can also be seen as "This child cannot be raised by an OTHER." Think about it.

At the very least, it gives the writer's an out for why Kate can raise the baby just fine.

But killing a main character that a lot of the story revolves around... that's good too.

geeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzz

I'm hoping they keep in relegated to the island's mysterious make up...and they stay away from scenes like a room with a chair in the middle and lots of technical gizmos attached to the person in the chair (ala The Matrix)...or blinding flashes of electricity that forms a ball around the subject (ala Terminator)...

I would just like the time travel to be organic...and not explained by sci-fi mumbo jumbo.

God, I wanna read those spoilers!! Is it 9pm yet?!

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Seems to me he DID have a true psychic vision...that possibly even surprised himself...It's possible he NEVER had any real psychic ability until Claire walked into his office.

Its not enough that you get stuff like The Daily Show...err, almost Daily. Were lucky if Armando Ianuuci gets off his very talented arse or pursuedes the new bbc execs to put down the coke and the pretty boys (no offense to them, we love them, its the context etc...) and listen to reason twice a year for example.

Worm- sorry, Torchwood? To quote one of 'The Thick of It's characters, "it is, as my dear old mother would say, double-wank and chips!".

'Primeval'!? Your a lucky bunch at the mo.

Mine would be what the deal with the four toes statue.

anybody got a idea of just one Q that want answering.

with a bomb...

IN HER RIBCAGE!!!

Besides, we all know the important question is whether Jack ends up with Juliet.

Thsi show will not be cancelled with numbers like that.

While Claire may be dead, I'm pretty sure she's not the one in the coffin.

However, I do agree that Claire ain't in the coffin - although she might die.

My guess is that the man in the coffin is either Ben, Locke, or Michael.

Ben has changed before, evidenced by the several passports, and we know he makes it back. Maybe he dies after what we saw in Sayid's flash-forward - who would want to go to his funeral? That's right nobody.

Locke fits the original obituary better and nobody would go to his funeral either.

I think Michael has changed his name and we will soon 'Meet' him again. He could used another name as well and again nobody, but Walt would go to his funeral.

Now, someone please tell me I'm wrong - cause that's the point of these talkbacks right?

I've also thought about the obituary, and agree that it might not be canon. At the same time they could have ensured nobody could read it at all instead of just the little snippets that were visible - just my two cents.

in those 8 months of glorious Lost debates, general geeking out and numerous fantastic theroies we were free of assholes mostly...every now and again a hater landed in shouted something about Heroes and buggered off again, but the discussions stayed on topic and lost centric..then when season 4 started these talkbacks were (are) flooded with assholes,,,,i'll name no names(CapJack) who decide to try and spoil episodes for everyone; and other people no names again (SF); who just talk shit and try to start mundane arguments and take the focus away from this great show...the days of room 23 are long gone...

to my room 23 pals, sorry aint been about, my constant battle with poor(not seroius or anything) health mixed with band commitments and work(U know all to well Big E) has made my post count severly drop...I try to read what everyone says but am not able to contribute as much as I can......but its good to see the old gang, Node, RB, PB, Big E and others still fighting the good fight....

I'll hopefully get to see the episode somestage tomorrow(god bless the internet) and will hopefully be in to get ur views on it...

more 'HOLY FUCK' moments...I love that man....namaste

Desmond Hume...and...Penelope Widmore

Hummore? Deselope would be my favorite. Jacket (Juliet and Jack) is a close 2nd.

Real shit would have to occured to make Kate despise Claire so much she wouldn't consider going to her funeral. NOT Claire. Same with Ben, but in this case, why would Jack even SUGGEST Kate go? Has to be a person of importance to them, but there was a faling out. Sawyer is not an O-6er. Michael made it back and has an alias (maybe Kevin Johnson???). SO would Walt. Hoffs-Drawler Funeral home was in that neighborhood for a reason - we know this about our writers. Gotta be Michael. Kate wouldn't react that way about Walt. Locke would never come back and I doubt you'd see Jack cry over him. It's a he, that and the neighborhood and no turnout - can't be Juliet.

Process of elimination folks. Gotta be Michael.

My one question: explain the science behind the Orchid video from comic-com (BUnny 15..."don't let them touch!!!) That would go a long way to solving the biggest island mysteries.

My question from before - thanks for all the answers. I couldn't think of anything more clever than you guys. I like the generic food drop (with little dharma symbols drawn on). Maybe print up a shitload fake Oceanic golden tickets to litter ABC's lawn with.

"The body of John Lantham of New York was found shortly after 4 am in the 4300 block of Grand Avenue. Ted Worden, a doorman at the Tower Lofts complex, heard loud noises coming from the victim's loft. Concerned for tenants' safety, he entered the loft and found the body hanging from a beam in the living room. According to Jaime Ortiz, a police spokesman, the incident was deemed a suicide after medical tests. Latham (sic) is survived by one teenaged son. Memorial services will be held at the Hoffs-Drawlar Funeral Home tomorrow evening."

So who the fuck is John Lantham? Probably Michael.
* Michael is from New York
* Michael has reason to use an alias
* Michael has a teenage son
* No one would attend the funeral because everyone who knew Michael thinks he is dead.
* Jack would feel like attending the funeral because it fits his character. Kate wouldn't because it fits her character.
* Jack says he is neither friend nor family because Jack is somewhat famous and an investigation to Jack's relationship with Lantham might reveal he is Michael to the public, which is something Jack does not want.
* Whoever is in the coffin is not what drove Jack to suicide. He was clearly distraught even before reading that article. But it did seem to affirm whatever bad feeling he had and need to go back.

The other possibility is that the man in the coffin truly is John Lantham. A character yet to be introduced.

So can we stop the whole Locke is in the coffin/Ben is in the coffin insanity? Those theories make very little sense.

Raise a Nozz-a-la for the fallen gunslinger.

Poppins will be served at the wake.

Because of its hurtling through space, it wouldn't necessarily be in the same position that it was when you left. The entire galaxy spins in a big circle, so if you were trying to send an object into the past, you'd have to find a space AND time that corresponds to the time you left. So a sending yourself back a year ago to the second, and you might be on the other side of the planet if you couldn't direct yourself.

Say the polar bear was sent into the past, but the first 'Earth' space/time it could interact with was waaaaay back when the 'Earth' was in the same position it was when it was sent. Just an idea about how the polar bear ended up in the past.

The business with Aaron being with Kate. I don't know why everyone assumes that Claire is dead and Aaron is with Kate voluntarily. Keep in mind that everything in the flash forwards we still don't know what's happening with them and how the storylines on the island play out to get the characters from the present to their storyline in the future. I think 1 of 2 things are happening with Kate and Aaron, either Kate was leaving the island and Claire gave Aaron to her in order to give him a life off the Island. This would explain why Jack does not want to see him, b/c it's a visible reminder that they left everyone behind. OR Kate stole Aaron from Claire before she left and Jack never agreed with this decision and thus never wants to see him. It's just a thought and is obviously unfounded but so is everything else in this TB.

Let me know what you guys think about this, love everything you guys are saying about the show though, giving me lots to think about/anticipate for tonights episode.

Anyway, if the article was just a prop then I would need to see the source where that was confirmed.

He'd cut hm up into 5 hefties - distribute neaty into wood box.

Fuck I love that show. Knew NOTHING about it. Downloaded seasons one and two on a whim after seeing it on CBS. THAT is awesome serialized TV...hooked me in like Angel season 3. And is close to Lost as far as really getting me hyped for the next ep. God how I yearn to be able to just download LOST Seasons 4-6 and just take a weeks vacation, whitecrosses, Diet Mountain Dew, a piss bucket and frozen pizzas. Once again - touching self.

Lost lovers - I HIGHLY recommend UNEDITED/Showtime version of Dexter. 9/10.

If you want something that the Lost producers loved and decided to sort of emulate, should look at an old BBC show called The Prisoner. FANTASTIC show with a really BAD ending. Patrick McGoohan should do an ep of LOST.

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THANKS micturatingbenjamin!!! I seed so much good TV, I'll turn around and download some for a change. Looking forwad to it! Pass the time between Thursdays. Don't forget - if any of ya'llcan't get the ep by 11 pm US/Eastern Time...The Pirate Bay. Edshrinker. wmv (small file size/moderate quality) file. Or just search Lost s04e05

I do this for NO OTHER REASON but for the love of the show and my wish to share to those who can't access it as early as I can. Good Karma. I've been doing the same things with Green Bay Packer games this year - share the, albeit aborted, joy.

(W/gloriously sexy acccent)"The naughty one".

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Lost, X-Files, B5, Farscape, BSG, 24, Firefly, Arrested Development, Angel, several seasons of Buffy....and I'm CERTAIN one or two will opo in my head as boarderline top shelf. So that gives you my "tastes". Lots of Sci-Fi. What I guess for being raised on Star Wars, Star Trek, Space 1999(SO Underrated tho unrealistic).

So is Angel worth your time? Putting a personal Whedonbias aside, ABSOLUTELY. By season 3, they had surpassed the mothership (Buffy)and began a mytharc that went on for the next two season or or less. And what a ride. Season 1-3 is absolute bliss. 4 was just ok, a little annoying with a character in particular that will just grate on you. Season 5 is a game-changer, enter Spike and exit annoying characters, and the best wrap-up season I could ever imagine. Wanted it to go on - but as it is a WONDERFUL job tying it all up. Whew. Any questions? Would download it - and have - just to re-watch it. I would buy the box set if I had the disposable cheddar for such things.

It took until they killed off a main character, brought in others (God I love Julie Benz), to really get in flow. They fall victim to a silly alternate reality mini-arc, but that was only a couple eps. When Darla (Julie B.)turns up - this show becomes completely addictive.