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ANGEL Writers Fain & Craft Enter Whedon’s DOLLHOUSE!!

Whedon & Fox by Mr. Gunderson	Feb 27th, 2008 09:43:12 PM
Didn't Whedon swear off working w/ Fox after how they treated Firefly? Also, what happened to his horror feature Goners? Burnings questions need answers.
Ignoring it.... by Darth_Nader	Feb 27th, 2008 09:51:41 PM
Personally I am going to ignore this series until the end of season two. I can't take watching another show I learn to love, like Firefly, get raped by the Fox morons.
cool by smutpeddlar	Feb 27th, 2008 09:59:59 PM
should we start a "save dollhouse" petition now? i can host it on my "more firefly/where's my angel movie?" page if you guys wanna
Joe 90, Pretender... by Christopher3	Feb 27th, 2008 10:00:02 PM
What else has this premise?
Fool Whedon 2,851 times... by Mullah Omar	Feb 27th, 2008 10:02:14 PM
I cannot understand what Whedon is thinking by going back to Fox. Why keep going back to a network that has abused him several times over? Won't any other network bother with him? Is this just a case of preferring to work with the devil you know? It's only a matter of time before Fox jerks Whedon around again. When they do, who will hold the blame? I'd say Whedon for getting back into bed with Fox in the first place.
why whedon and fox again? here's why by logicalnoise01	Feb 27th, 2008 10:03:08 PM
I thought AICN would've posted this sooner. but anyways whedon got approachedby dusku herself to make a series. SHe invited him to lunch because she had a development deal with fox and wanted joss to be a part fo it. Over lunch Joss thought of the basic idea and suku added her own input. a week later they went to fox corp and signed a 7 episode deal. WHedon said he was nervous about trying fox again but was releived when he found out that everyone who ever worked with him at fox was gone and it was all knew people who impressed him. He offered to write and direct teh pilot and based on that the fox heads offered a 7 episode commitment which was good enough for both of them. If fox renews teh increasingly awesome terminator:SCC I'll have faith that they can handle a whedon property again.
logicalnoise by nora inu	Feb 27th, 2008 10:08:22 PM
herc actually did post that original story back last fall. i hope whedon's instincts are right about this, i won't believe it till i read "fox renews dollhouse for a second season, orders 22 episodes, sorry about firefly", not expecting that last part. i also agree that terminator is starting to find something of a rhythm, hopefully not too little too late.
angel curse by smutpeddlar	Feb 27th, 2008 10:18:16 PM
angel,after fighting back the hounds of hell,is again cursed by a gypsy(Jenny Calendar's sister)..the curse actually turns him human..but only on his actual birthdate..side effect,he ages a full year on that day..but he is also able to reproduce.so he and buffy shag like rabbits on his birthday..sans protection,they are now the proud parents of twins,1 boy,1 girl..they are the chosen 2,and must be protected at all cost,so they are being raised by police officer alexander harris and his wife willow rosenberg,sunnydale high's new technology teacher
nora by logicalnoise01	Feb 27th, 2008 10:25:35 PM
ah my bad, sorry herc.
Okay, logicalnoise01, sounds good by Mullah Omar	Feb 27th, 2008 10:51:04 PM
If Fox has really ousted everyone who burned Whedon before and filled their spots with execs he trusts, then consider me cautiously optimistic. I wish the premise sounded a bit more interesting, but I expect we've only seen the tip of the iceberg.
not too worried about the premise by nora inu	Feb 27th, 2008 10:58:50 PM
how goofy does "superhuman high school girl goes to school with her gang of misfit friends during the day and battles evil in the form of vampires and various prosthetic wearing demons at night" i have confidence that joss can spin just about any premises he wants into spectacular television.
mullah omar by nora inu	Feb 27th, 2008 11:00:40 PM
by the way, i just think it'd be really funny if you were the real mullah omar, one of the most wanted muslim extremists in the world, and you were posting on aicn and a huge whedon fan. that'd be the greatest story ever.... in fact whedon could even spin that into spectacular television
Not Another Dark City Wannabe! by Sherlock Holmes II	Feb 28th, 2008 12:49:55 AM
This is getting old, fast!
Why does Whedon work with Fox? by Xiphos	Feb 28th, 2008 12:56:03 AM
Because they are paying him lots and lots of scratch, that's why he's working with them.
smutpeddlar by mullymt	Feb 28th, 2008 12:58:56 AM
Talkback fanfic? Really?
Great, now get Goddard... by DanielKurland	Feb 28th, 2008 02:05:44 AM
And I don't know how you're going to pry him away from Lost. Jeff Bell too.
Fuck this shit - Get back to FIREFLY boy! by alucardvsdracula	Feb 28th, 2008 02:18:30 AM
It's the best thing you ever did. Serenity was a let down though. But if you wanna do TV do Firefly.
Hope it's be the next Lost or Heroes by zooch	Feb 28th, 2008 02:50:49 AM
I have full trust in Whedon and his writers. The studios should be trusting this guy with major motion pictures. But more great television is good too.
Hope it will be the next Lost or Heroes* by zooch	Feb 28th, 2008 02:52:28 AM

High hopes for this one. by gotilk	Feb 28th, 2008 02:55:28 AM
People will poo-poo on it until it gets dumped, aired out of order, pre-empted for football, etc etc. Then you'll all realize it's brilliance.
Let's hope it's the next Sarah Connor Chronicles by Buck Swoop	Feb 28th, 2008 02:58:56 AM
Where characters ask each other questions and storylines don't take 8 episodes to advance.
Dollhouse sounds stupid, but good writing could make it rule by Stereotypical Evil Archer	Feb 28th, 2008 03:26:52 AM
Buffy, Angel, yeah I watched a few episdoes. Several of my friends love Buffy and Angel. Firefly was the show for me. At first I thought it was goofy, but when you watch it on DVD in CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER without being PRE-EMPTED it kicks ass. I watch it over and over again every couple of months and it doesn't get old, it gets better. It was as if Darin Morgan had his own TV series in a parallel universe, the writing was that good!
I mentioned DARIN MORGAN in my post above by Stereotypical Evil Archer	Feb 28th, 2008 03:27:27 AM

Get Petrie! by buffywrestling	Feb 28th, 2008 04:03:29 AM
What's he's been doing lately? Is Fury still writing for Lost as well as Goodard and DeKnight? Epenson is writing of BSG but what is Noxon doing? Marti Noxon has been added to the Paley Fest panel, btw.∞
Sounds a bit like Dark Angel to me actually.. by Yeti	Feb 28th, 2008 05:08:21 AM
That was a good show but got increasingly stupid as it went further into it's second season...
Buffywestling-Noxon went to the Dark Side by MGTHEDJ	Feb 28th, 2008 06:05:13 AM
She is the head writer and showrunner of "Private Practice", the spinoff of ABC's "Grey's Anatomy." And she can stay there. Because women I know who were fans of the show, got mad when Noxon came on to a few episodes of "Grey's Anatomy" and started making wholesale changes for the sake of "Change" and "More Drama and Angst." Granted it got Heigle that Emmy, but I don't know if the ratings will ever return to those phenomenal Season 2 levels. Hey, most people here may hate it, but the show helped ABC turn things around, and it takes the pressure off "Lost", with it's massive production overhead, to play it safe and be a top 5 hit.-----later-----m
Damn you Fox by turketron	Feb 28th, 2008 07:24:01 AM
I really don't want to fuck with this until after a second season is on order. Fox isn't good at keeping good shows around.
The Pretender... by Kid Z	Feb 28th, 2008 07:42:33 AM
...with a chick. YAAAAWWWN! Real original there, Whedon!
It sounds an awful lot like 'Global Frequency'... by Genre_Boy	Feb 28th, 2008 07:54:24 AM
Since WB didn't want to proceed with it, I suppose it was just a matter of time before someone else decidded to eat their lunch.
Great... by WatertownSurfer	Feb 28th, 2008 08:35:02 AM
Love Angel and Buffy, two of the best written shows ever. Whedon has a fantastic imagination. Hate, hate, hate these two writers, fain and craft. nothing but "Angel's got a big schlong jokes". all of their episodes were written like over obsessed fans who were in between planning the next angel convention. when they weren't touching it to him it was all about spike. GDIACF ladies.
Alas, ex-whedon writers are in demand by buffywrestling	Feb 28th, 2008 09:09:53 AM
Noxon, as stated above is with "Private Pratice" (never seen an eps personally or Grey's), Petrie is with "CSI", Fury with "24". Drew Z Greeberg with "Dexter". Goddard and Brian K Vaugn is with "Lost". Maybe Mere Smith, Jeffery Bell or Rebecca Rand Kirshner?Ä
Sounds like Paycheck, actually by chrth	Feb 28th, 2008 09:42:23 AM
Can't wait for Faith to bang the Cold Case chick
To all that think thing Dollhouse premise sounds stupid.... by torpor_haze	Feb 28th, 2008 09:49:34 AM
Did you guys really think that show about high school girl killing vampires and cowboys in space sounded good on paper? I didn't and I like both shows. Whedon has the tendency of making a "Sci Fi Special" type of idea and taking it to another level. I'll reserve my opinion on this one after episode seven.
*your mind will ignore my grammatical errors** by torpor_haze	Feb 28th, 2008 09:51:12 AM
I hope it will.
Elizabeth Craft and Sarah Fain are two good writers! by captboulder	Feb 28th, 2008 09:59:00 AM
Man, I will support this series with my ass...if I have too! Go, Whedon!!!
i am too psyched that Whedon is writing for tv again: by newc0253	Feb 28th, 2008 09:59:20 AM
but for Fox? Whedon and Minear must have a real Charlie Brown syndrome with Fox as Lucy holding the football.
Ok, so.... by password.swordfish	Feb 28th, 2008 10:39:11 AM
Let me try to understand. People are going to hold off watching this until the second season so they don't get invested in another show that gets canceled, which leads to shitty ratings and the show being canceled. Sounds like a good plan to me. Oh wait... Also, what about bringing Ben Edlund on board? I loved what he did for Firefly, and Angel when he switched over. He wrote some of my favourite episodes! And the Tick is sheer genius.
6 by moviemaniac-7	Feb 28th, 2008 10:54:36 AM
The number of episodes before it gets cancelled by Fux.
Genre_Boy: by mbeemer	Feb 28th, 2008 11:36:27 AM
"Since WB didn't want to proceed with it, I suppose it was just a matter of time before someone else decidded to eat their lunch." Don't you mean, "drink their milkshake"? ;-)
Very excited, but I don't buy Whedon's claim that by Charlie Murphy	Feb 28th, 2008 11:41:48 AM
"Fox has changed! Honest! It's a totally different place now!" bull. shit. hopefully the show is good, and, more importantly, successful.
I can't wait... by Refuge5	Feb 28th, 2008 11:45:30 AM
It's been too long since the Master had a show on TV... Joss - get this thing going and the please give us more FireFly... Please....
also by Charlie Murphy	Feb 28th, 2008 11:50:38 AM
i agree that if fox renews Terminator, i will sleep a little better that they can handle this show. but if they cancel SCC and renew prison break, that'll be fucking it. the problem with fox is that they expect every show to be a gigantic hit. they invest ridiculous amounts of money into their shows, and when they are only moderately watched, they're axed. how much did the DRIVE pilot cost? A LOT. how much is terminator costing? A BITCHLOAD. how much are they investing in the Abrams pilot? WAY TOO MUCH. just because FOX has exactly two hit shows, they expect every single one to be a smash...if firefly aired on the WB/CW, you know it would still be on the fucking air to this day. we'll see, i'm cautiously optimistic about this, i know i'll love the show, but am weary about getting my hopes up. also, i agree with password.swordfish about everyone saying they won't watch until it's a hit... doesn't really make much sense...
movie maniac by logicalnoise01	Feb 28th, 2008 12:43:53 PM
fox signed a 7 episode commitment meaning they have to air at least 7 before canceling.
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On what network will it air? by Subversive01057	Feb 28th, 2008 03:33:19 PM
Fox will produce it, but do you think there is any chance another network to air it? Like what happened with Buffy? If not, then yeah, I think we should start the "Save Dollhouse" campaign now. Or, maybe we could combine these two notions, start sending Fox doll parts or something, along with the message: "Save Dollhouse! Fox, please let some other network air it instead of your lame, good-show-killing ass!"
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS by Spacekicker2001	Feb 28th, 2008 04:32:38 PM
I'm so excited for a little Whedon action!
FOX: DON'T CANCEL DOLLHOUSE by Eaglet1138	Feb 28th, 2008 04:33:48 PM
To Whom It May Concern: Dollhouse is one of the most original shows to air on television, and certainly on your network, since your early cancellation of Joss Whedon's 'Firefly,' a move which has cost you dearly in viewers and PR in the years hence. Since the incredible pilot, 'Dollhouse' has only increased in quality. Ms. Dushku represents the sort of strong female role that is missing on television, and the show itself is a powerful allegory for the situation the world is in right now. I am aware that 'Dollhouse' is only pulling in eight million viewers a week, but it is second in its demo, and with a better time slot and lead-in, I'm sure that could be brought up to twelve or thirteen million next season. Add to this that iTunes sales are currently high, and DVD sales will certainly be high, and it should be clear that 'Dollhouse' is a money-making factory that doesn't come around every day. I promise you, if you cancel 'Dollhouse' at this time, I will be finished. Your network will have screwed me over for the last time, and I will NEVER get attached to another show on Fox again. Until the next one. Signed, Gregory Harbin
Save Dollhouse campaign by supertoyslast	Feb 28th, 2008 05:06:28 PM
I agree with Eaglet. We should start planning the campaign now.
Dollhouse was great! Why did they cancel it?!?! by Photoman	Feb 29th, 2008 02:53:46 AM
After only 2 episodes too! And as anyone could see, this was the greatest TV show ever to grace the airwaves...EVAR!!1! ...........there, just practicing for the inevitable cancellation and then for the even more inevitable Whendon dick-suckers to praise this like the second coming of Jesus.
Dollhouse sucked balls. by DamnMichaelBay	Feb 29th, 2008 03:47:56 AM
Dollhouse sucked balls Photoman, stop sucking Whedon's cock. Please insert more gratuitous swearing and Whedon-bashing whilst I go watch an episode of Firefire...
What is Whedon thinking going to a Fox? by BrandonGK	Feb 29th, 2008 05:52:28 AM
Go to FX or something, Joss. You have a better chance of success, not to mention more creative freedom. (Could you imagine something BSG or The Shield lasting more than five episodes at a network?)
Breaking news, "Dollhouse" canceled after four episodes... by ComputerGuy68	Feb 29th, 2008 09:54:36 AM
just getting ready ;)
Whedon didn't go to Fox by Juemad	Feb 29th, 2008 10:08:46 PM
Fox went to Eliza because they have a deal with her. Eliza then went to Whedon and Whedon invited Minear onboard.
Go Joe Sweden! by maxsterling	Feb 29th, 2008 10:56:23 PM
This will be the best show evah!!!1!!1
Alexis Denisof would be a great addition by CrichtonAstronut	Mar 4th, 2008 09:52:22 AM
He and Dushku worked brilliantly together in Angel season four, when they hunted Angelus and he was dark Wesley and she wass reformed. They had a sory of Slayer Watcher thing goin. The seaonn 1 show where she tortchered him showwed some potential too. Also, he's British so Denisof as spy master would be sort of natural.

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