Now that you mention it, doesn't that apply to all comic book material?

Long time reader, first time poster.

2005: Danny the Dog (can't believe they fracked with Jet Li like that)

2005: Transporter 2 (holy cow!!! what a piece of $#it!)

2008: The Incredible Hulk (hmmm......)

1. Fuck all the work that the previous cast and crew did in their universe.

2. Bring in a young hip director with a totally fresh take on the material.

3. Tell people to forget the previous trilogy ever existed and then release the "reboot" to rake in some serious coin.

4. Return to step one and repeat as necessary.

*shakes his head and walks away*

Weapons of mass destruction are still being developed, though.

I admire the way the Iron Man movie has apparently updated the origin, simply and effectively substituting the Taliban for the Viet Cong. It's too bad that physicist Bruce Banner couldn't have been abducted by some dictator and forced to build a gamma bomb, only to discover that American hostage Rick Jones is escaping through the test site. Risking his life to successfully warn Jones, Banner is gets too close to the test. Later, upon examination, he Hulks out, liberates himself and Jones, escaping. As Banner again, he and Jones are picked up by Thunderbolt Ross' men, leading to Banner reuniting with Betty, the gal who thought he ditched her ("No, honey, I was abducted by a terrorist state") and we get on with our regular Hulk movie, in which THE HULK TALKS, DO YOU HEAR ME! HE TALKS AND HE SAYS THINGS LIKE: "HULK WILL SMASH! HULK WILL SMASH YOU ALL!" with lotsa exclamation points.

That'll be one million dollars, a Purdy shotgun and an H2 brimming with Cuban cigars, please. Contact my agent, Dan the Man at Vortex Tours, Sedona, AZ.

The new Hulk flick will probably be less artsy-more fartsy, and that's what Hulk fans want.

Wolverine's cast may have a lot of characters, but so does fucking Star Wars, pal. And all I need to know about the Wolverine movie is this: Wolverine is in it, and he's cutting motherfuckers up. That's probably all I need to know, but hell, throw in Deadpool and a bunch of Weapon X shit, and it beats 'Last Stand' any fucking day of the week.

The split screen effect was because Ang Lee's from China and doesn't get American comic books. He doesn't understand them, so he's translating to the screen what he believes is going on on the page, and what you get is Hulk, the movie.

If it was a Masterpiece, you must be awfully pissed that in the movie called The Hulk there's about fifteen minutes of The Hulk in action, and the rest is a long and drawn out character study. Pick up an issue of The Hulk, and you'll see what a casual fan would desire in a movie about The Hulk.

I wouldn't call the Hulk 'comic book bliss'. But only because I don't talk like that. That's pretty fanciful wordsmithing, Node. It was okay, not terrible, but definitely not what someone would expect out of something called 'The Hulk'.

I totally concede on your Jen Connelly point. mmmm-mmm

...no one deserved Batman and Robin. I'm not retarded, I just think that if you want to make a movie about the Hulk, fucking put the Hulk in it. The other thing is, you're right, there wasn't NEARLY enough HULK FUCKING SMASH in that film.

Drama is fine mixed in with the fucking comic book movie...it's fine, but it's not why people pick up a fucking comic book. Remember how DC Comics put Superman in Dialogue! Comics? You don't because it never fucking happened.

My brother likes NASCAR, but we both pretty much hate pork rinds. And fuck, man, you don't really think Hulk was a fucking good movie do you? It was interesting, but it wasn't an Incredible Hulk it was a Tolerable or Mediocre Regular Hulk.

Fifteen minutes of action in a superhero movie is fine if it's Watchmen. Or a Sandman movie...but in a movie about a GIANT FUCKING GREEN MAN WHO LEVELS CITIES WHEN HE'S ANGRY doesn't need to be an in-depth character study. Hulk was not a successful action flick, it was a half-way decent drama, which was inappropriate for a Hulk franchise.

Use your words, hoss, and you've proven yourself to be a little unhinged over in the Oscar Talkback, buddy, so I won't take your insults personally. :)

I told you Motoko, Stevie ate him.

Your picture link was of the dog humping its way up the tree, and Hulk about to smash it. Great. Big whoopdedoo. I think you're misunderstanding my point. Ang Lee's movie would have been better, much better served to have action pieces strewn about the flick. More of those, and his version of the Hulk would have been great! The last fight with Abomination was not cool it was lame as shit, when the previous action sequence lasted 7 or 8 minutes and was dynamic as all get out. It's like Superman Returns, they blew their wad with the plane crash, so when your big feature end is Superman chucking a rock into space it falls flat.

Finally, man, do you even read the comics? Hulk is a force of nature, like a walking F5 tornado, or a movable earthquake. He's destruction on an epic scale. Ang Lee's Hulk was an intimate study of a hurricane, and something was lost in the adaptation. Fuck, it wasn't that great, and I'm over here defending things like Daredevil and Ghost Rider to my friends all the time, so I know where you stand with this like of Lee's Hulk.

I suppose I have more faith in a action-oriented Hulk movie with lots and lots of destruction. It would be like Twister with only a third of the tornado sequences, and focused on Helen Hunt.

The Hulk by Ang Lee would have been better served if he went an additional hour and added some Hulk-Sized fucking destruction.

Letterier needs to be given a shot, because Transporter 2 was just a goofy fucking action flick, but still mostly entertaining. It wasn't supposed to be a fucking Merchant Ivory flick with guns...

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Outside of the dogs, I think Lee's Hulk was a great film. Was it a "kick ass action superhero" movie? To me, yes and no. But this to me isn't a slight against it...there are some beautiful moments in that movie that I have yet to see anything similar in other comic book movies....to me this is a good thing as this genre is getting close to being stale and there's quite a few more stories to tell. What would have been awesome though would be if Nolte, in taunting Bana, had said "Give up the goods boy, or you'll find yourself passing through several canine rectii around 9am tomorrow morning." Any movie that uses the plural form of rectum is fucking the shit and you know it.

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Second, I've heard the complaint over and over again about how Ang Lee made it too 'psychological,' focusing on the abusive father, as if Lee made that up whole cloth. You know where he got that idea? The COMICS. Though it wasn't part of the original story, various reworkings of the Hulk in the 80s did include the abuse story. So this is not new. When people say "look at the comics," they need to be specific about which comics. A lot of writers wrote Hulk in different time periods, from the 60s to today, dealing with different concerns, trends, and styles. I've read plenty of Hulk story arcs that have included intense character studies, not just Hulk smash. There's room for both. Balancing them is the key. I felt Lee did that, but others disagree about that balance. I just worry for this film when the filmmakers constantly compare it to the tv show, which was NOT a good adaptation of the comic on any level.

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Nowhere have I said I just want eye candy action from beginning to end. Just comics-based pacing.

Looks like Universal is waiting for Iron Man to open before making the slightest move. What if Iron Man underperforms? No one will care if Downey plays Stark in Hulk 2! People will just wait for TDK. Those dumbasses at Universal must stop dry humping Matt Damon and put together a fucking aggressive PR campaign. Or else it will fall flat on its face. And they'll hire Ratner to re-reboot it.

BTW, someone mentioned Leterrier as a "EuroRatner". This is spot on. But at least Leterrier has to prove himself for his first true Hollywood flick (and thus can surpass expectations - especially when those are very low), while Ratner doesn't give a shit and makes a shitload of money with mediocre films. Why should he care? The Rat sucked so many cocks in the business he shouldn't worry about his stuff.

As far as I'm concerned I don't really care; I loved the Ang Lee version and if that one fails I can still stick to it. While if Leterrier fucked up Iron Man or Captain America (I read he was approached to helm those before switching to Hulk) it would be yet ANOTHER shitty Marvel flick, in the long list of shitty Marvel flicks.

So, good luck Leterrier (even if you're an asshole in interviews. All geniuses have their dark sides^^) it doesn't matter to me if your movie sucks. If it doesn't then it's a win-win situation.

See? To each his own. I thought it was absolute garbage but if you enjoyed it then it's my loss, as much as the 2 hours you spent watching Hulk were yours. I, for one, had a great time. And an even greater time watching it again, even if I admit it's a flawed movie. All comic flicks are. But from a French perspective (Leterrier is French and made French movies as far as I know) he IS the French Ratner: no integrity, no respect for the audience's intelligence, no vision. A yes-man.

It doesn't make your tastes less respectable than mine, but the comparison with Ratner is totally deserved nonetheless.

Useless fucking tossers.

Secondly, it was not at any point as clever as it thinks it is, in fact I'd argue that it was pretentious wank of the highest order and about as subtle as a sledgehammer.

thirdly, everyone forgets the stupidity of the origin idea- Banner will become the hulk because daddy experimented on himself with starfish DNA. This is a shit idea- I understand that it links back to the "inner demons" thing that was going on, but really it was unsubtle and dim.

Jennifer Connolly, although intensely fuckable sleptwaked through the film.

The final battle while great on paper looked awful on the screen

I didn't mind the split screen stuff.

I agree with the guy that said the last 3 minutes were great. They were.

Overall, I don't hate it, and it is by no means in the same league as Catwoman, but it is a thoroughly average outing.

Hell, this is all just conjecture anyway.

Finally, Edward Norton as the hulk.... HULK WANT TO KNOW WHAT SWEDISH FURNITURE DEFINE HULK AS PERSON.

Let's see...with Supes returns, the plane of course.

Spidey 3....when Pete beat the fuck out of Harry in his apartment.

I have no idea how there two movies will turn out, though I like everything I've seen from Iron Man. I do not have high expectations for the Hulk. Why couldn't some sort of balance be found with the Hulk, strong story and good action?

That's what they get for doing a salary matrix.

In other news, over the last two evenings I watched ALL three Evil Deads, and the first each of Reanimator and Phantasm. Army of Darkness has to be one of the best films I've ever seen. Bruce Campbell is definitely a god among men. His one-liners are insanely funny, like "Hello Mr. Fancy Pants, you're only leading two things right now, and that's Jack and Shit. And Jack just left town."

I stopped at a local dollar store yesterday on my day off. I bought a gross of pencils.

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I have prayed to the trinity and am banking on him being on the end of PENCAPOLYPSE in the near future.

The scriptures are growing- and I've started adding pictures- I photoshopped Burt into "The Sermon on the mount" so it looks like he's lecturing the people about Ammo, and he's got a big shit-eating grin on his face.

I'm going to stuff them all in, including their heads into the last supper for the coverpage.

That'll teach my work to put me on Quota time. I don't need quota time to do this,

Exactly how many shotgun shells did Ash bring back in time with him? Jesus!

Oh, and it did not slip past me that the first stabbing in the first Evil Dead was a pencil-stabbing. Truly beautiful.

It is astounding how much ammo Ash took back in time, but it isn't inconcievable to think that he could make some more- he did make a metal hand.

I found out last night that the wife has only seen the first evil dead. We watched the second one yesterday and I'm going to invest in the box set (the one bound to look like the necronomicon) on the weekend.

Jarv--oh yeah,you're right. He had a chemistry book in the trunk of his car and he DID make gunpowder. Good call. Damn, Ash is impressive

Truly, they are omninpotent.