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i like turtles by Sailor Rip	Feb 20th, 2008 08:07:26 AM
Did the new X-Force start yet?
Suggestion for Comic Reviews by BilboRing	Feb 20th, 2008 08:15:08 AM
Instead of being a full week late, why not post reviews on the Friday after new comics come out? Not a big deal but a suggestion. Or can the reviewers get early copies to post the same week?
Comic Books??? by God's Brother	Feb 20th, 2008 08:19:15 AM
I forgot all about those. They still get published every once in awhile?
Sailor Rip X- Force by optimous_douche	Feb 20th, 2008 08:20:36 AM
X-Force #1 did come out last week. My shop got shorted. I was going to tackle that one instead of BG 0, but I won't be getting it in my hot little hands until today.
optimous_douche by Sailor Rip	Feb 20th, 2008 08:23:57 AM
I didn't hit the shop last week.
Eww.....that Fantatic Four cover... by Billy Batts	Feb 20th, 2008 09:16:10 AM
is a horrible, horrible cover. How awkwardly posed. Damn you, Hitch.
Review Length by krylyyk	Feb 20th, 2008 09:16:36 AM
Is it bothering anyone else that every week the length of each review gets longer and longer, and becomes more about the reviewer trying to be funny because they think they are, and less about the comic? Come on! It takes me less time to just read the freakin' comic than to read your reviews of it.
SINESTRO CORPS WAR = BEST SUPERHERO STORY EVER! by messi	Feb 20th, 2008 09:18:23 AM
It's also the best Star Wars Story since Empire Strikes Back. The most epic blockbuster i've ever read in comics. It has everything, Drama, tension, heroism, iconic framing, the cool turn of the superhero(ie things look dim and then ION is revealed) etc, then a cool revelation that brings the whole myth full circle and a fucking brutal teaser for THE BLACKEST NIGHT!
OF COURSE YOU'D BE LOST! You need to read from Rebirth by messi	Feb 20th, 2008 09:21:56 AM
Maybe that's why I fucking loved it so much. You need to know everything from Rebirth. Johns set the whole fucking thing up. And sorry guys but the Sodam yat argument is weak since they introduced him and his whole point of existance(ultimate Green Lantern) two GL corps Issues before. You are basically reviewing The Empire Strikes back without having watched Star Wars.
hey...that means that storm... by munkie loco	Feb 20th, 2008 09:24:44 AM
is a skrull!
@ krylyyk by brassai2003	Feb 20th, 2008 09:25:05 AM
I AGREEEEEE! Ilove reading the @$$h@les, but this "I remember when i bought my first blah...blah...blah..' stuff has got to GO. I mean that S War review was horrible. there was no meat until over half way through! Bug, please, reign these people in.
To see Sinestro Corps War for the masterpiece it is by messi	Feb 20th, 2008 09:28:48 AM
Read from Rebirth. I cna't imagien starting from Sinstero corps one shot. I mean Ranx was in the GL corps issues before sinestro corps and his involvement is 'holy shit' when you get to reading it. Kyle's background in the Ion maxi series plays more in Sinestro Corps War. Half the characters you get through GL Corps ie Greenman and Stel man which is what makes them so fascinating. It really feels like the Blockbuster movie, as if this is The Two Towers and you are seeing these characters you know in a bigger adventure and Johns' GL and Gibbons' GL Corps and Marz' Ion Issues were the movie before hand.
Green Lantern Corpse is silly? by messi	Feb 20th, 2008 09:31:22 AM
That was badass. A Black ops division of the Green Lantern Corps and they had Lethal force beforehand.
"I remember when we used to go to the comic shop on horseback... by rock-me Amodeo	Feb 20th, 2008 09:37:23 AM
...in the snow...uphill... I'm probably the worst offender of reflecting on the past before proceeding through the present. It's hard not to bring some context to whatever I'm reading, though, because that really is what's running through my head. But speaking only for myself, maybe I can reign in. A comic should really be judged on its own merits, irrespective of the good or bad that preceded it. And yet, context is so important. A fine line, to be sure.
So... by Shigeru	Feb 20th, 2008 09:38:33 AM
don't just buy the first Sinestro Corps War trade? What do I have to read beforehand? I'm so confused.
The Lantern Black Ops WAS awesome... by rock-me Amodeo	Feb 20th, 2008 09:39:45 AM
...and an idea that was overdue. I just thought the NAME was silly. I mean, you have an intergalactic force that has speakers of 10 bazillion different languages, and the name of the most serious bunch of operatives is based on a weak pun in English? As a linguist, I found it a bit forced.
Shigeru by Billy Batts	Feb 20th, 2008 09:41:26 AM
If you've read any GL books before you should be fine just picking up Sinestro Corps. But it would definitely ENHANCE the experience if you read REBIRTH first. It's by Johns and Van Sciver and I believe the trade has an Alex Ross cover.
Oops.... by Billy Batts	Feb 20th, 2008 09:42:32 AM
I was wrong. It's a Van Sciver cover.
Shigeru by messi	Feb 20th, 2008 09:48:34 AM
Green Lantern: Rebirth Green Lantern: Recharge Green Lantern ongoing - (at least from the 1 year later issue) Green Lantern Corps(whole thing sets it up) Ion: Guardian of the Universe And once you're broke, you can marvel at one of the greatest stories ever written(yes that's right, ever).
rock-me Amodeo by messi	Feb 20th, 2008 09:50:39 AM
Could be a nickname dude. See in Smallville Tv Show Brainiac is known as Brainiac colloquially when he is actually called the Brain Interactive Construct? Boom Tubes are reffered by that name by the young New Gods. etc. most likely a play on words on Green Lantern Corps because they are like ghosts and badass and deadly.
The most important in setting up Sinestro Corps War by messi	Feb 20th, 2008 09:51:48 AM
is the entire Green Lantern Corps by Dave Gibbons. Then Green Lantern by Geoff Johns(that has things that are mentioned that relate to events after SCW).
Jinxo- by RenoNevada2000	Feb 20th, 2008 09:53:03 AM
I did not know you were the man behind the single greatest workplace time waster EVER! Love that site!
Green Lanterns... by Kid Z	Feb 20th, 2008 10:21:12 AM
...Black Lanterns, Blue Lanterns, Red Lanterns... What's next? Pink Lanterns? They get their power from a huge boombox on Oa that constantly plays old Frankie Goes To Hollwood songs?
Kid Z the concept is awesome by messi	Feb 20th, 2008 10:26:13 AM
it fucking rules. The emotional spectrum is a brillaint idea, and that double page spread means a Corps War would look amazing.
GL titles are on a role... by irrelevntelefant	Feb 20th, 2008 10:36:22 AM
maybe Quesada will jump ship to DC, have Doomsday wipe all of the GL's memories and they can condense it all down to one title...
Walking Dead was fucked up by cromulent	Feb 20th, 2008 10:37:13 AM
and awesome. Can't wait for the next issue.
The Emotional spectrum.... by Psynapse	Feb 20th, 2008 10:55:05 AM
...corresponds to the ultraviolet (ROY G BIV anyone?) and is FUCKING BRILLIANT in it's explanation and execution. Haters can suck it. PS-Shig, get the Rebirth trade (it RULES, just DON'T read the intro by Meltzer the fanboy tool spoils key story beats) and then dive in to the Sinestro Corps War Trades. Anything else is a waste of money because everything prior to the start of the war can be explained at Wikipedia and other online sources.
messi by Shigeru	Feb 20th, 2008 11:00:38 AM
If it was just you that replied to me I would have skipped the whole fucking thing. I'm not giving that much $$ to DC.
Psy by Shigeru	Feb 20th, 2008 11:01:03 AM
Thanks dude. Is it just the 1 Rebirth trade?
the Gov in walking dead FN RULES! by irrelevntelefant	Feb 20th, 2008 11:02:21 AM

re: GL stuff to read before SINESTRO WAR by barking_frog	Feb 20th, 2008 11:07:40 AM
Since I wrote the review, I've read REBIRTH and Johns's GL monthly, and yeah -- by the time I got all the way through SINESTRO WAR there wasn't anything in REBIRTH that I hadn't "reverse engineered," but I'm sure the beginning of SINESTRO WAR would've been less confusing if I'd read REBIRTH prior. It's also interesting to hear that GREEN LANTERN CORPS does a lot of setup for SINESTRO WAR -- I've picked up the CORPS issues along with ION and RECHARGE, and will take a look at them when I can (got distracted by Alex Ross's JUSTICE, review for that next week). One other GL book I picked up that I found interesting but nobody's mentioned yet is the story Moore did in GL CORPS ANNUAL #2 back in '86 -- it's the source of much of the material Johns developed for SINESTRO WAR, and while certainly not essential reading, it's a nice little Moore story that does give you some idea of where Johns's work came from. Shigeru: You have to read the first SINESTRO WAR trade or you'll be even more confused. ;-) But to get the necessary background for the first trade, I'd recommend reading the titles messi listed. Assuming you're wealthy and have incredible amounts of slack time, of course.
Kid Z - relax! by rock-me Amodeo	Feb 20th, 2008 11:07:55 AM
Don't do it...when you want to... couldn't resist. Actually, they play old Yaz and Bronski Beat.
GL fan film appearance by irrelevntelefant	Feb 20th, 2008 11:09:09 AM
short film on youtube and ifilm 'Losing Lois Lane' kind of a JLA meets Swingers.
Sure is Shig! by Psynapse	Feb 20th, 2008 11:20:23 AM
And it is SO worth the coins. Van Sciver's art alone is worth it. That Johns effectively and intelligently completely restores Hal Jordan's 'hero' status doesn't suck either.
Yo Rock-me! by Psynapse	Feb 20th, 2008 11:23:47 AM
See, I always thought the Guardians were more Clan of Xymoxx/Shriekback's 'Nemesis' than Yaz and Bronski. Oh wait, they WERE all dudes before Rayner reincarnated them weren't they? Hmm....
No one nove a myscle as the dead come home... by rock-me Amodeo	Feb 20th, 2008 11:32:31 AM
Yeah, I can see that. Ah, Shriekback...there's a classic. Of course, nothing beats "Upstairs at Eric's" for sheer danceable-ness...
MOVE a muscle...crap. by rock-me Amodeo	Feb 20th, 2008 11:32:54 AM

Fantastic Four by Mr Incredible	Feb 20th, 2008 11:33:53 AM
I'm sure it will probably be a good read and nice to look at, but going back and forth to the comic shop to get it for a year's run? I'll wait for the trade paperback. Agony, yes, but worth the wait to read it all at once.
"Maybe he’ll be back, maybe he won’t" by danwall88	Feb 20th, 2008 11:43:20 AM
Are you kidding me? Of COURSE Grodd will be back. So will Mallah. So will the Brain. "Forget it Jake, it's comics." It was still an AWESOME gorilla fight, and Salvation Run is one of the most underrated comics so far this year.
Bullshit complaints against Salvation Run by Sledge Hammer	Feb 20th, 2008 11:51:46 AM
...Now first up I don't think this is a great story, it's been passable enough so far, but it's hardly anything staggering, and nor do I think it'll be all that memorable long term. But even so, complaining about the killing of good characters and suggesting that only faceless/nameless/lame z-grade characters should be killed off is utter bullshit, and is exactly the kind of 'safe' storytelling that derails these kinds of books/stories in the first place. If this book is doing one thing right it's in not playing it safe. I mean if only characters that no one gives a shit about die then where's the unpredictability? Where's the danger? The surprise? Where's the drama in that? This is supposed to be a world of death, just killing off the chaff would be a far more bullshit move than killing off a few more notable characters is. I'm a fan of a few of the name characters that have gone down so far, and yeah, I don't like to see them die, because that's a natural response to characters that I enjoy, but I appreciate the balls in doing so, even if it'll be almost undoubtably retconned or reversed in some way at some point down the line. I guess in this world of comic book paint by numbers storytelling I just like stories with consequences, rather than ones that just extend the status quo, and sometimes that means deaths. My thoughts anyway Oh, and everyone should read Sinestro Corps War. And every DC fan definitely should.
The rainbow/emotional spectrum does indeed rock... by Thalya	Feb 20th, 2008 12:05:42 PM
Though frankly I'm surprised a Sinestro ring even hesitated in front of Flutter, my Papilloxian/Coluan alter ego who represents Yellow and serves Urania, Muse of Astronomy and Astrology. I mean, she gets a bit scary with her eyes and fizzy-flutts/quasi-molts her wings when angry, but you'd never think she'd do that, what with the cuteness and absent-mindedness (though you'd never expect her to be a pilot with a strong grounding in astrophysics either..). Have I mentioned how fun it is to exist as 7 or 8 radically different people all at once?
Anything "Titans" is like crack to my 4yr old daughter by OneManHairBand ATX	Feb 20th, 2008 12:06:23 PM
...except for the actual Wolfman / Perez source comics. First - she started watching JL (from my DVD collection), then got hooked on the Supergirl acrs from JLU. But when she saw that first episode of TEEN TITANS, it was all over. I've had to "ration out" how often she watches it because the series is over (and I won't let her watch the Season 4 / Trigon stuff yet - too scary for her). I've been scrambling around STL trying to find as much of the comic version I can. So, I brought "Tiny Titans" home to her. At first, she couldn't recognize a few of the current DCU inserted players (Ms. Martian, and the current Wonder Girl), but she still made me read it to her three times before bed. I think this was a good move on DC's part - but I'd still like to see them keep TTG as an ongoing title.
Also... by Thalya	Feb 20th, 2008 12:12:27 PM
Salvation Run is well-written but not meaty enough to merit its "underrated" assessment. It's a 7-issue mini being written like an ongoing and what everyone tends to want is more Rogues, darnit! Bug, consider me checking out Wizzywig because of your review - it sounds good. The GL Corpse arc rocked my socks (see R'Amey Hol, kickass Papilloxian butterfly babe and especially the art and coloring). And might I add, yet again, Prof rocks!
P.S. by Thalya	Feb 20th, 2008 12:14:55 PM
Grodd's back. Check out the May solicits for The Flash, released yesterday.
How about Beige Lanterns... by Kid Z	Feb 20th, 2008 12:40:33 PM
... powered by the force of indifference. They just sit around on couches all day smoking weed and watching reruns of McGuyver. "He just blew up that cell door with a cold pill." "Cool."
Green Lantern #25 is the GOAT!!! by expert_40	Feb 20th, 2008 12:53:20 PM
Seriously, thanks Barking Frog for giving the Sinestro Corps a once over. You should have, in retrospect, read Green Lantern: Rebirth, at the very least to get a feel for the characters and the setting. SPOLIER ALERT!!! I use no hyperbole here. Green Lantern #25 and the upcoming Red Lanterns of Rage, Blue Lanterns of Hope, Orange Lanterns of Avarice (greed), Indigo Lanterns of Peace, Violet Lanterns of Love, and most importantly, Black Lanterns of Death along with the standbys of Green Lanterns of Will and Yellow Lanterns (Sinestro Corps) of Fear are going to change the course of DC and GL history as we know. I love using the colors of the spectrum to go along emotions and feelings. What's best and worst in all sapient beings. I love how that, corresponding with the ROYGBIV color standard of the spectrum, that the colored powers at the end of the spectrum actually control their users more that the users control them. Which is why the Violet Star Sapphire Power has always taken control of their hosts. So now, Violet and Red (rage) are going to control their users, while Green is the power that's hardest to use, Will Power, it's the power that is easiest to control by it's willful user. Next would be Yellow (Fear) and Blue (Hope). Then, starting to get into the area where the Ring Powers exert more control is Orange (Avarice (greed)) and Indigo (Peace). I love how, in the context of the story and characters, it makes PERFECT sense. And the thing is, I can already tell where this is going. All of the new, individual Lantern Corps, Green, Yellow (Sinestro), Blue, Red, Violet, Indigo, and Orange will have to band together, and use their combined Power from their Power Rings (or staffs, in the case of Indigo), to create the Pure White Lantern Light to combat the Black Lanterns of Death. It only makes sense, right? Then only thing that can combat the darkness is light, right? The only color that can destroy black is white. The Seven Lanterns (the seven colors of the spectrum) have to combine all they are to create either one White Light Lantern, or groups of seven Lanterns will have to go around, eradicating the Black Lanterns of the Dead. It just makes too much sense NOT to happen this way people. Also, who here thinks Kyle Rayner becomes, if not the first Blue Lantern, but the Champion of the Blue Lanterns, much the same way as Guy Gardner is being set up as the Champion of the Green Lanterns (In Booster Gold #2 he is called the Greatest of all Green Lanterns... NOT Hal Jordan). Maybe it is Guy Gardner who transcends color and becomes the White Light Lantern? Who knows, but I really do think that they should make Kyle a Blue Lantern. It too makes sense. Think about it, while Kyle has a lot of Will, he has always been a bright beacon of Hope. Plus, he's Ganthet's boy, right? So, Kyle Rayner for Blue Lantern! Who's with me? Also, what Lantern would y'all be? Me, I think I'd be a good Blue Lantern. I think Harry would be the Orange Lantern for sure. Man, 2008 is going to be freaking awesome for the Lantern Books!
Hey Jinxo by evolution1085	Feb 20th, 2008 01:11:22 PM
Your description of the New Avengers kind of works for Barton and Echo, so Im just curious to see which one you think is more likely to be the skrull? or is it someone completely different
Jinxo, I think Storm is a Skrull. by nemler	Feb 20th, 2008 01:19:47 PM
"Only one thing bugged me. Just such a nitpicker. At one point Storm and company are sneaking through the sewers. A character asks her if she’s okay, if the sewers bother her. She isn’t bothered. Only…she should be. Unless I missed a story where she was cured, Storm’s Achilles heel is that she is, in fact, claustrophobic. If they had just left that question out of I wouldn’t have even thought about it, either. - Jinxo" This scenerio could be a clue that Storm is a Skrull. Why a Skrull wouldn't know that Storm is a claustrophobe, though, I don't know...but maybe they don't know that about her. Or maybe Storm is Storm and it is just shoddy writing.
Fuck Marvel and DC with all the ads! by Zardoz	Feb 20th, 2008 01:48:51 PM
I got Millar and Hitch's FF book, and while the story was good, I was so pissed at the layout of the book: pages 3 and 5? Ads. Too many of them. As soon as this run is done, since I've started it, I'm finished with the monthlies from Marvel and DC. The ads have killed the comics for me. Well, except for companies like Image: no fucking ads at all! If I'm paying a premium price, I expect a premium book. and I don't want ads in my comics anymore, especially not in the first 3 pages! NO MORE ADS!
Yes, Storm is a Skrull by nemler	Feb 20th, 2008 01:49:17 PM
Now that I think about it, Storm is indeed a Skrull. And probably a dude-Skrull...which means Black Panther has been married to a dude all this time!
barking_frog by messi	Feb 20th, 2008 02:00:32 PM
Issue 10 or 11 of GL Corps basically reprints it, they go through it when the Guardians tell the prophecy to Salaak. See it comes again in Sinestro Corps War when Salaak is trying hardcore to protect Sodam Yat.
Shigeru by messi	Feb 20th, 2008 02:03:49 PM
Unfortunately all of that is setup for Sinestro Corps War. And GL Corps sets it up far more than Rebirth. Nearly every arc in GL Corps is revisited in Sinestro Corps War. Plus you may not want to give that much money to DC but I didn't just recommend it because it sets up Sinestro Corps War, but because it's fucking excellent. GL and GL Corps are two of the best books of the decade.
Also, when the fuck is the Donner/Johns Superman concluding? by Zardoz	Feb 20th, 2008 02:04:09 PM
Fucking bullshit delays!
yeah well by Shigeru	Feb 20th, 2008 02:33:00 PM

expert_40 by Billy Batts	Feb 20th, 2008 02:42:12 PM
No 'Blue Lantern' Kyle! Kyle was the only Lantern when I started reading comics, so he'll always have a special place in my nerdy heart. They should just stop messing with his costume/title for a while and just let him be a Green Lantern again.
Optimus Douche battles Smegmatron by Squashua	Feb 20th, 2008 02:56:44 PM
The noble Autotwats vs. the evil Deceptcunts for the fate of Planet Gynotron. Optimus, you don't have to have "read" and "Crisis" issues after 52 to "get" Booster Gold. His story continues straight from the final issue of 52 into the Booster Gold issues. No reading of Countdown necessary either.
Kyle should be leader of the Green Lanterns by messi	Feb 20th, 2008 02:58:20 PM
The dude is basically Luke Skywalker. He trained himself, joined the JLA at a young age, Bats and the Endless said he would surpass Hal Jordan, he brought back the corps and and the Guardians and he's relegated to honor guard, below kilowog and salaak? Man Johns really doesn't like this guy.
Maybe Storm's just used to sewers. by rev_skarekroe	Feb 20th, 2008 03:00:17 PM
She led the Morlocks for awhile.
"Last Son" on April 9th... by Zardoz	Feb 20th, 2008 03:06:38 PM
I answered my own question. Man, WTF is wrong with this title? What's it been now, over a year since it was started? Cheese and rice!
Kyle WON'T be a Blue Lantern...... by Psynapse	Feb 20th, 2008 03:22:02 PM
Ganthet and Sayd do not want to interfere with the GLC, rather they intend their Corps. to support the GLC when the War of Light and The Blackest Night come about. Though I'm sure quite a few of my posts might make me seem a perfect Red Lantern I'd actually be a Blue one. Ask any of the Cogs....
Skrulls by Jinxo	Feb 20th, 2008 04:07:16 PM
Storm as a skrull... I actually like that. I like the additional irony of a Skrull Storm so far undercover that she is pretending to be Storm WHILE FIGHTING SKRULLS! That's crazy cool. Actually I thought I was too obvious in my skrull finger pointing in the New Avengers but... I guess I wasn't. My top choice was Jessica and her baby. I mean, we already had that weird skrully eye shot of the baby a few months back. Here's my thinking. The Civil War is key here. Great for the Skrulls. They can get a list of who is who so they can properly researcg folks to replace. If they can get in a power position they can even pull folks in for meetings and make substitutions. And most everybody is registered. Non-reg folks are mainly going to be solo acts, not groups. The big exception would be The New Avengers. Wouldn't hurt to have someone on the inside there. Only that's harder to pull off. They're in hiding. Likely less background info to research. And some of them would be hard to easily fake. Doctor Strange and Iron Fist have the mystic mojo. Wolverine you could fake but if anyone chose to test him the ruse could fall apart. You'd have to fake a metal skeleton, a healing power that could revive the most grievous of injuries... you want to replace someone who could stand up under scrutiny if needed. I'm not sure Power Man would even be on their radar. Clint is possible but... he'd seem not too subtle. The guy returned from the dead. Risky choice. Echo... maybe. But back to Jessica. Again, they already tipped things with the baby. Then this issue points out that she left for Canada for an extended period. So there is a spot in her timeline where she is unaccounted for. She's also a subtle plant. Who is going to think the spy is the retired "mom" hero and her baby? And who would want to make Iron Fist angry by suggesting such a thing? And you can slip her into their hidden group without much fuss. They might not know a ton about her but she's someone who can work herself in slowly. Most of the group likely won't know if she is acting "off". Luke Cage might but who wants to willingly suspect the mother of his child of being a fraud? And not knowing about the Skrulls any off behavir could be chalked up to post pregnancy issues coupled with being on the run from the law. But then "Jessica" has the bad luck of arriving at just about the same time that the Skrull plot is uncovered and everyone is hyper alert for signs that people aren't who they appear to be. Crap. And then Spider-Woman bails to The Mighty Avengers. What is she telling them about the invasion? If she stay put and she risks being exposure unnecessarily. Not like she's in a power position in the group anyway. More likely she's there as a mole for info. Well, she's got her intel. An opportunity arises to get out before people can see through her act and she takes it. Going to The Mighty Avengers she is no longer inside the group but she doesn't need to be now. She's now with the group keeping the closest eye on The New Avengers. Given who she "is" Luke Cage will constantly be showing up to see his kids making them easy to keep tabs on. And by leaving Luke she has thrown the leader of their group waaay off his game. On the run from the law, in emotional turmoil, comprised mostly of heroes not seen as A-listers... the Skrulls would feel they have the upper hand. Yes, they know of the invasion but that's more reason to nix infiltration and move on to monitoring and using the Initiative to destroy them outright. Jessica's behavior capped it for me. She was back to the old Jessica. More emotionally damaged and such. People do revert to form sometimes but... I don't buy it. Jessica really had some growth in Alias that I don't see going away so easily. And when she craps all over Luke... the words were right on but through the whole issue facially she was drawn as just so unemotional and dispassionate about doing it. Again, same artist who drew her in Alias. That's not the Jessica from Alias. Her pain and damage would seep out in her every expression in that book. That Jessica might very well crush Luke Cage for her baby's sake or maybe because she was wrestling with some other perosnal demons. But when she did it, it would eat her up inside. Before or after, at some point you'd see her pain and regret. That's not there in this issue. She's a stone faced emotional assasin. Okay, that was more rambling than I hoped for but oh well.
RenoNevada2000 by Jinxo	Feb 20th, 2008 04:08:29 PM
Ha! Always freaks me out that people actually know my site. Glad to waste your time. :D
Oh! by Jinxo	Feb 20th, 2008 04:17:49 PM
Almost forgot! A good reason for Jessica to be a Skrull from a dramtic angle. So Spider-Woman moves off to Mighty Avengers with the Skrull intel. "Jessica Jones" moves to The Mighty Avengers too. A good reason would be that she is following that info leak to keep tabs on it. But dramatically it adds another element. Bendis wanted to write Spider-Woman - Jessica Drew - and was denied and so created Jessica Jones instead. This plot is a way for him to take both his Jessica's and put them in direct conflict with each other: the Jessica he always wanted to write versus the "substitute" Jessica he created. Okay, with Jessica Jones being a Skrull imposter she's actually a substitute substitute but dramatically it still works. A face off between the good and bad versions of his leading ladies.
I'm Also A Recently Converted Marvel Zombie, barking frog by LaserPants	Feb 20th, 2008 04:25:19 PM
And one of the primary factors in that conversion is the GL mythos. I jumped on board with SINESTRO CORPS WAR, and actually found the background stuff that I didn't know fascinating to find out. Of those books, I found the SUPERMAN PRIME and CYBORG SUPERMAN one shots to be the most freaked out and cool. Both of them are horrifying characters. SPrime cause he's a spastic murdering freak bastard from hell, CYBORG SUPES cause he's such a tragic figure -- stuck in this melting hell body pretty much forever since his minions won't let him die. But anyways, I totally fell in love with the whole GL thing, and that led me to check out some of the other DC books like LoSH, Action Comics, Detective Comics, Supergirl, Catwoman, Kingdom Come and so on and so forth. Now that I'm kneedeep in DCU lore, I can't believe how much I've missed! Not that I don't still like a bunch of MARVEL books, but more and more I find myself gravitating to the DCU. I guess I'd put myself in the middle -- I like both companies books, but for now I'm more intrigued with DC.
Thanks Squashua by optimous_douche	Feb 20th, 2008 04:37:45 PM
I'm a classic victim of collecting too many titles. The brain can only retain so many crossovers. Right on about the end of 52. Next time I'll traverse the long boxes before I quote cannon.
I still like the idea if Kyle as a Blue Lantern... by expert_40	Feb 20th, 2008 04:49:11 PM
... I mean, it's not like they'd be any less powerful. Like I said, he has the Will to wield the Green Power Ring, but he's always seemed like a character that has been about HOPE.
Yaz/Xymox/Bronski Beat/Shriekback by SleazyG.	Feb 20th, 2008 05:03:37 PM
I seem to have traveled back to high school. Oh, sweet mother--where's Rip Hunter when you need him?!? Run away, turn away, run away, turn away, run away... ...damn, Chicago's cold. How winter kills...
You mean the Punisher Doesn't Blow the Gibbon's Brains Out? by C.K. Lamoo	Feb 20th, 2008 05:08:10 PM
Damn, old Frank is going soft on us.
Great Question: Who would be the different colored Lanterns in t by expert_40	Feb 20th, 2008 05:08:26 PM
Remember when the Yellow Power Ring (Fear) sought out Batman to be the Earth's wielder of Fear because of the, well, fear he delighted to cause in the criminal element (and even towards some in the superhero element)? What other DCU figures do you think would do well as the "other" Lanterns? Here's my rundown: Orange Lantern (Avarice (greed)): Okay, for me, this is the biggest no brainer. It HAS to be Lex Luther. There is no other character that would make more sense to wield the Orange Power Ring of Avarice (greed). The only other wielder that would make ANY sense would be Ra's Al Ghul. Next. Blue Lantern (Hope): I've already said I think Kyle should wield the Blue Power Ring of Hope, but if forced to choose another character, I think I'll have to go with Barbara Gordon. Yes, Oracle. Bound to a wheel chair, the Ring would let her walk again and I think it would be a good fit for someone used to the hero-ing business. Red Lantern of Rage: Now, this is a little more difficult. I would actually go with Orion, the New God and son of Darkseid. He's always had rage issues, and this would set him off. Plus, the Red Power Ring of Rage actually controls it's user more than the user controls it, so I think this would be interesting. Also, and this is who I think will be the Red Lantern Champion: Fatality. Makes too much sense. She hates the Green Lantern Corps and is filled with rage. Yellow Lantern of Fear: Well, anyone in the Bat-family would do. But how about a Bat villain? I say the Joker, because he's not dead, would be a perfect fit. Think of all the crazy shit Nero came up with, now think about the Joker wielding one of the most powerful weapons in the Universe. Holy... Fuck. Indigo Lantern of Peace: Well, I say you couldn't go wrong with the Wonder family, but isn't it time they resurrect Dove and slip an Indigo Power Staff into his grip and let him promote peace throughout the Universe? Violet Lantern of Love: Formally known as the Star Sapphire Power, I would stick with either Carol Ferris or Cowgirl. Actually, scratch that. I would give Lois Lane the Violet Power Ring of Love. Let he screw up Superman's world some. Would be fun! Green Lantern of Will: position(s) ably filled. Black Lantern of Death: Well, we already know Black Hand is going to be the Harbinger of Blackest Night and most likely going to wield a Black Power Ring of Death, but given another choice, I may go with Solomon Grundy. Maybe the Black Power Ring of Death would make him smarter? Who knows Okay, y'all's turn!
No Prerequisites For Comic Reading... by Buzz Maverik	Feb 20th, 2008 05:18:52 PM
...other than, conceding to modern publishing, I wouldn't recommend stepping into a series, or perish forbid, an "arc" or maybe even a "run" midstream (makes it crawl back up). But you shouldn't have to read GREEN LANTERN: THE FIGHTER PILOT WHO REFUSED TO FIGHT or SINESTRO VS. MR. SINISTER or SIMON BAR SINESTRO to be able to read, "get" or again perish forbid, enjoy a series. Otherwise, just buy back issues, SHOWCASE PRESENTS and ESSENTIAL everything ... because if they can't communicate it to you in the series you're looking at, they can't do it at all. Of course, they probably can, so no problem.
Will The Black Ring Lanterns Be Intelligent Zombies? by LaserPants	Feb 20th, 2008 05:40:02 PM
Or will they be growling, drooling, moaning dim bulbs? I suppose to make it work, they'll have to be smart zombies.
Buzz Maverik by messi	Feb 20th, 2008 05:51:53 PM
Showcase and essential have nothing to do with understanding Sinestro Corps War. you only have to read from Rebirth. Rebirth acts as Star Wars A new hope, introducing everything again. GL Corps sets up the world and scope and GL sets up the more personal aspects and Hal as a mythic figure and central to the SCW. That's how it works.
The Baddest thing about The Blackest Night is that by messi	Feb 20th, 2008 05:52:40 PM
The War of light will rage on but then they will all get fucked over by the Black Lanterns. I'm pretty damn sure they kill who they touch.
I thought of Kyle as Blue Lantern too by messi	Feb 20th, 2008 05:55:09 PM
He is one of the most noble characters in the DCU. Would make sense. Orion won't be a red lantern, the dude will be dead by then. Fatality is a great idea. Even though unless properly executed the mega wide crossover is a pain, the idea of The blackesy Night fucking up every character and throwing every book into chaos is great. What if Lois became a violet Lantern? That affects superman's book. What if Oracle became a blue lantern etc. It's a great idea. But i'm just waiting for the massive double page spreads of the War of Light that will destroy my eyes with the colors.
Black Lanterns = former heroes by messi	Feb 20th, 2008 05:57:47 PM
Conner Kent and Barry Allen for sure. That is if Barry doesn't return in Final Crisis(which will obviously happen).
THE WAR OF LIGHT by messi	Feb 20th, 2008 06:01:46 PM
http://tinyurl.com/34yo8j
Speaking of a Flash... by expert_40	Feb 20th, 2008 06:54:40 PM
... did anyone else besides me feel absolutely BETRAYED by the way Bart was killed? Not only by the way, but by the fact that they killed him in the first place? I grew up reading Impulse comics and Young Justice comics. DC killing Bart, especially in so crappy a way, has replaced what they did to Hal Jordan 12 years ago for me. At least they were able to cooly retcon Hal turning into Paralax into something fucking awesome (as we're reading now). How the fuck could DC ever reconcile Bart's death at the hands of the Flash Rogues in the way he died? Worst DCU death EVER! Not only for the way it went down, but because it was so unnecessary.
expert_40 by messi	Feb 20th, 2008 07:04:26 PM
I did. It was because it wasn't selling, which sucks because the Guggenheim arc was great and he had a handle on the character and I don't see where else they can take Wally. Bart grown up was a great idea. It sucks that fate and chance has so much to play in comic books, if only the right creator came along, who knows how different things would be in Flash world and how it would tie into Final Crisis. Whoever expected Green Lantern to be so fucking epic. Or Captain America so fucking good or Immortal Iron Fist so fucking brilliant.
TomBodet by messi	Feb 20th, 2008 07:05:32 PM
You used to read it? Why aren't you reading it now? Johns' run is the best superhero comic of the decade. Seriously this is the Lord of the Rings of Superhero Comics. Read from Rebirth please.
I Like The Idea Barbara Gordan As The Blue Lantern by LaserPants	Feb 20th, 2008 07:11:56 PM
But I don't now if it'll go there. But who knows?
messi... by expert_40	Feb 20th, 2008 07:13:59 PM
... it's nice to know that I do not mourn Bart Allen alone. It was just so senseless to me. I know he's just a character and everything, but shoot, you get attached sometimes. At least when Conner died, it was for a reason worth dying for. Bart dying was so empty. Oh, and I always knew Green Lantern could and should be the best written book in the DCU. The mythos behind it is ten times better than ANYTHING ever written for Bats or Supes. I've been through a lot, waiting for this time for Green Lantern. Please, don't make me even talk about the dreaded Gay Lantern Winnick years (must that man KILL every book he writes for with his heavy-handed Yay Gay and AIDS sad messages?). GL and the GLC have deserved this kind of run. I just hope the new writers can continue what Johns has created... THE BEST FUCKING COMIC GOING!
Yeah by messi	Feb 20th, 2008 07:57:08 PM
The Mythos was so strong that it only needed a dude to bring that potential out. It's the new Star Wars. And Winnick's run was ok, the Ion Story was alright, just the fact Kyle was a God and the way he acted. Making a brutal difference. But I wonder how Kyle would have been if Johns' handled him. I really wish Morrison took up Green Lantern cos he loves Kyle.
re: LaserPants, Recently Converted Marvel Zombie... by barking_frog	Feb 20th, 2008 08:19:54 PM
I don't really get involved with characters so much as with writers. I'll follow Alan Moore or Ed Brubaker pretty much wherever they go, and whether or not I'm reading e.g. GL will probably depend on whether or not Johns is writing it. I barely read comics through the 90's, except for a couple must-read pieces like LONE WOLF & CUB and KINGDOM COME that everybody was reading even outside the comics industry. But in the 80's I was almost strictly Marvel -- that seemed to be a great time for Marvel, whereas DC was coming out with really hit-and-miss stuff. I started reading again in early 2007, basically because I'd gotten an itch to write a comic and wanted to see what was happening in the industry now, and it seems like things have totally reversed. DC is now in the habit of putting high-caliber talent on their main books like Batman, Superman, and GL, whereas I can't make heads or tails out of Marvel's old mainstays like the X-Men anymore. It's just strange to me how much of a difference 15 years has made. Marvel still has some great stuff coming out (IMMORTAL IRON FIST comes to mind), but for the most part it seems like DC's been stealing Marvel's lunch for a while now.
DC is better than before but... by messi	Feb 20th, 2008 09:06:55 PM
Marvel still seems to win. DC has Green Lantern and Green Lantern Corps. But Marvel has Immortal Iron Fist, Captain America, Daredevil, Ultimate Spidey, Punisher. But DC is far better than they've been for a long long time.
Yellow Lantern Candidates by RenoNevada2000	Feb 20th, 2008 09:25:10 PM
How about Jonathan Crane, aka The Scarecrow?
Abin Sur's son's Yellow Ring.. by expert_40	Feb 20th, 2008 09:31:47 PM
... was sent to find Jonathan Crane, The Scarecrow. So we know that he'll be a force to be reckoned with in the Bat books (which is why I think Babs becoming a Blue Lantern would be the balls... that, and she and Dick can finally try some new positions besides he laying there because she's, well, crippled. The blue aura would let her take it doggy style, reverse cowgirl, up against the wall... all the good ways. But really, since we know Crane's going to be in the Sinestro Corps, I was really asking if anyone could think of OTHER ideas. I think the Joker would have the most fucked-up yellow constructs ever, even more so than Nero. It would be epic. Then, if Babs WERE the Blue Lantern... well, we all know the history there, thanks to the man, Alan Moore.
Bart's not gonna stay dead by Thalya	Feb 20th, 2008 09:35:17 PM
And I wager neither will Barry Allen, if the hints Johns has given about a huge remaking in the works for the Flash universe are worth anything. 'Matter of fact, I'll codify that wager - hopefully SleazyG is still hanging around this TB because I will wager eating a Hot Pocket if the following does not comes to pass: Bart and Barry Allen return. Some further details that I'm not going to make wager-able, but I think would kick tush if they came about: Johns has indicated that Weather Wizard will get a fair amount of exploration in Rogues Revenge, my guess is that he'll finally get his own Rogue Profile, a key point of which being that he has a son. Drawing from that and a line of his in All-Flash where he spazzed over them killing a "kid" (Bart), I'm guessing Rogues Revenge will have an undercurrent that leads to Barry Allen showing up at the very end and the Rogues laying down weapons out of respect. It's about the only way they get to get pulled back from their over-grittifcation. Beyond that, who knows? But if numbers for Salvation Run #1 and Rogues Revenge are good enough, the big change in the Flash universe could be a 2nd-tier-hero-rework a la Green Lantern that splits into 2 books: Flash Family (everyone, but focused on Wally's family, Jay and Bart) and Flash Rogues (emphasis on Barry and Iris on that side of things). It's a classic Johns "let everyone have their favorite" solution. Who'll take this bet? And mind you, I'm quite serious, because the last time I had a HP my lower digestive track went kaput for an entire year - I'm not joking.
Erm... Scarecrow was kiboshed in that selfsame issue.. by Thalya	Feb 20th, 2008 09:38:08 PM
GL #27, to be exact. Didn't even last 6 pages.
messi... by expert_40	Feb 20th, 2008 09:40:37 PM
... I DISAGREE!!! DC is so much better than Marvel right now. Booster Gold is fucking AWESOME. JLA is always better than The Avengers. GL is the best book on the market, even better than Ultimate Spider-Man, or the Immortal Iron Fist. GLC is a better team-up book than X-Men right now. Countdown rules Civil War, where they made Iron Man the villain for what, insisting that vigilantes (which are against the law) work within the realm of the law to protect the citizens, like policemen and women do. How was he wrong? Okay, the imprisonment without trial thing was not good. But his idea of registration is dead on. As a libertarian comic book reader, I've always been a little leery of these people with powers throwing on some primary colors and fighting bad guys. They answer to no one, or at least they did. Iron Man was the good guy. Cap was the bad guy, just no one wants to admit it. But I digress. And let's not EVEN go into the whole FUBAR, clusterfuck mess that was One More Day, the only event in comic book history that makes the Clone Saga look good by comparison. Talk about your all-time cop-out, bullshit. One More Day totally fucked over the character of Peter Parker and fucked over the readers. What's the big fucking deal with Aunt May, anyway? Why the fuck can't this old, dried up, pruny-looking woman just fucking DIE!!! And why is Parker suddenly so much of a fucking douchebag that he couldn't just let her die? She has to be a-fucking-hundred or something, anyway! Joe Quesada can lick my harry nutsack and take a ride in my piece of shit car which smells like the shoe for what he did to all of us with One More Day. Fuck Marvel, just for that alone. Fuck Joe Q. DC rules all, right now, and GL and GLC lead the mother fucking charge! Snootch to the Nootch!
Thayla... by expert_40	Feb 20th, 2008 09:41:56 PM
... I haven't read #27 yet. Thanks for the warning. I just read it on Wiki by accident and thought it would be cool. Now, I guess not. I have to get to the shop tomorrow and pick up my shit.
expert_40 Man you Suck by messi	Feb 20th, 2008 10:00:08 PM
I was on Cap's side. But maybe that's because i'm a South American leftist. Cap was the good guy, Marvel made it out that the rebels were the good guys, I mean Cap pretty much spelt it out "If we sign up then the government we'll be telling us who the bad guys are" which is one of the best most fuck you statements ever. The only reason civil war wasn't good to many people is because they wanted Cap to Win. And Iron Man is a cunt. PLus you can't seriously tell me JLA is better than New Avengers. JLA is a horrible book, it's been horrible for 17 issues now, but New Avengers has been great and looks brilliant. Yes Green Lantern and GL Corps are my fave books out there, but Marvel is putting out the Arthouse shit, Immortal Iron Fist, Captain America, Daredevil. Critically acclaimed books that look 200 times more professional than most DC books. This might sound bias but it's coming from a dude whose pull list is 80% DC. But I can admit Marvel have the more arty smart books.
Marvel "Civil War" Crap by Cybyer	Feb 20th, 2008 10:28:37 PM
Actually, I hated Civil War from issue # 1, just because of the way the New Warriors got fucked over. Plus, they weren't the only ones. One of my faves, Iron Man, trash talking them for letting themselves get suckered into a situation he himself has been suckered into a hundred times over? Iron Men was set up from the beginning of that fiasco to be the douche. Pissed me off, it did. Now the only Marvels that get my dime are Astonishing X-Men and Runaways, in the blue moon where they actually come out.
re: CIVIL WAR by barking_frog	Feb 20th, 2008 10:47:24 PM
I tried to read Civil War... I made it through about five or six issues and in that brief span saw Tony and Peter both abused horribly in terms of characterization. Maybe things got better (though I've heard they stayed bad or got worse), but it seems to me that if Marvel has a story they want to do that doesn't fit with the personalities of their characters, maybe they should do it as some sort of "imaginary story" thing (in the Ultimates line maybe?) instead of forcing it on their mainstream universe. Granted then it wouldn't be an "event" and rake in the quantity of dough Civil War did, but it also wouldn't have damaged Marvel's rep the way Civil War appears to've.
I don't think JLA is that bad... by expert_40	Feb 20th, 2008 10:54:24 PM
... is it as good as the relaunch what, 12 years ago? Man, so many things happened in 1995-1996. Rayner the new GL. Aquaman loses a hand. Superman has long hair. Batman comes back for good. JLA is relaunched. Didn't Heroes Reborn or Heroes Return happen in those years, as well? Anyway... I stand by what I said, messi... Cap was the bad guy. Look, I'm about as middle of the road as you get. I despise the right AND the left. Most artists (comic book writers included, though Joe Q might have to be kicked off that list) are leftists. Of course they're going to paint Cap as the good guy. Which, when you think about it, is totally hypocritical. Lefties in this country hate guns and want permits and licenses and waiting periods and to do away with the 2nd amendment. Why wouldn't they be in the same boat for registering people who have a million times the destructive power of a single hand gun as Iron Man? See... hypocritical... yet ANOTHER reason to hate the Marvel whacky libs who tried to turn Iron Man into a douche. Anyway... Cap was wrong. Heroes SHOULD be guided and TRAINED (because, like, besides the X-men, none of them really are trained) and they SHOULD answer to some kind of authority. Look, to me art is secondary to a great story. The visual is just the candy, baby. The story is the meat and potatoes, know what I mean? Right now, DC is telling the best stories. And it will literally take years (or an enormous retcon to my satisfaction) to rinse the taste from my mouth of the putrid filth that Joe Q shoveled down our throats with One More Day. I will NEVER forgive Marvel and Joe Q for fucking over Peter Parker and fucking over us, the fans. Ultimate Spidey is the ONLY Spidey for me now.
Good Writers Can Have Heroes They Disagree by Buzz Maverik	Feb 20th, 2008 11:15:33 PM
with politically. In the end, Millar imposed political points of view on characters that never particuarily showed those points of view before (Tony Stark stopped making weapons, opposed the Viet Nam war, attacked a U.S. federal prison because the guards wore armor of his design -- a move that brought a temporarily defrocked Steve Rogers, in his identity as The Captain, against him). Worse, Millar fell prey to making the good guys the ones who held a Marvel Universe POV analogous to his own, while the "bad guys" were part of the Mean People Suck party. That's writing about as subtle as the time Krypto, Streaky, Beppo and Super Horse teamed up against Lex Luthor's monster gerbil. I'm tellin' ya, Millar should be forced to read every novel James Ellroy has ever written. I love the question: why is Ed Exley a good guy while Dudley Smith is a bad guy? One could even ask how Exley is a good guy while Smith is a bad guy. Which is why, at the end of WHITE JAZZ, hitman cop Dave Kline goes under the alias Edmund Smith. If CIVIL WAR would have had us asking why/how Steve Rogers is a good guy and Tony Stark is a bad guy, we would have had something beautiful and profound. As it is, we just get I Like People (Characters) Who Are Like Me and Don't Like People Characters Who Aren't Like Me, Even Though I Make Huge Amounts Of Money Writing For An American Coroporation.
Somewhere, Iron Man... by Buzz Maverik	Feb 20th, 2008 11:21:06 PM
...blasts across the sky over DC, ready to intercept Ultimo as he wades through the Rotunda, en route to stomping the White House... While Captain America and the Falcon do battle with a private army of killers with ties to the Red Skull...
You guys don't get it by messi	Feb 20th, 2008 11:50:11 PM
Cap's whole point was to not become pawns of the government, which makes sense and his position makes sense. Remember the Marvel U is alot like our U, manipulative governments etc. Cap stands for the dream, the ideal and he saw security through loss of freedom as wrong but more to the point that if they all become government registered then they will be working for the government, they will be invading iraq. etc. I agree with Cap cos I try to be a noble compassionate person and his views made total sense. Plus Iron man has always been a sly cunt but it finally came out. And if you read the amazing spidey issues before Civil War it shows how Spidey started at that viewpoint and then changed(he's the moral center of Marvel remember).
Re: You guys don't get it by Cybyer	Feb 21st, 2008 12:14:06 AM
Spidey's viewpoint lost all credibility the moment he was stupid enough to take off his mask on National TV. The hell that his life became immediately after was foretold way back in Amazing Fantasy # 15, when he decided to conceal his ID in the first place. Add decades of crimefighting experience on top of that and it all culminates in a moment of utter stupidity that he was too savvy to succumb to back in his first appearance? When did all Marvel heroes devolve back into rank amateurs? Because that was the real ret-con that had to happen to make 'Civil War' make any sense whatsoever.
hey all by Darth Kal-El	Feb 21st, 2008 01:31:54 AM
good to hear people passionately talking about comics. im not gonna lie i have alsmost zero knowledge of the GL universe and skipped civil war altogether. the sinestro thing sounds cool i might check that out. walking dead was fucking jaw dropping!
Cybyer by messi	Feb 21st, 2008 01:50:49 AM
If you read the Spidey comics before Civil War you'd see why Spidey would unmask.
Messi by Cybyer	Feb 21st, 2008 02:15:25 AM
I did read them. I also read the years and years worth of Spidey comics that came before and laid the foundation of the character. Those comics are the ones that made me ask the unmasked Peter Parker (figuratively, of course. I don't really talk to my comics, just sayin'), "Where's your backbone, man? Where's your common sense? You call this responsibility?"
Messi II by Cybyer	Feb 21st, 2008 02:20:53 AM
BTW, don't misinterpret my rabid disgust for Civil War as an insult to you, personally. You're just as entitled to your opinion as I am mine. I'm glad you liked it and you're not alone. I'm not picking on you, just venting on the warping of some of my fave characters is all.:)
Cybyer by messi	Feb 21st, 2008 03:17:46 AM
I get what you're saying, but it just seemed within the context of the comic that Spidey felt he was safe and was doing the right thing after considering it. And then it made more sense when the ramifications hit. Plus whilst Spidey is a genius he is naive'.
Totally Agree About Writers, barking_frog by LaserPants	Feb 21st, 2008 05:43:11 AM
I'd add artists to that as well, but, yeah, Brubaker and Moore's stuff are incredible -- they could write for any character and create gold. Johns is fantastic too. I guess we'll have to see who takes up the GL mantle as time goes on and if it can maintain the awesomeness that Johns brought the story / mythos...
Johns' is on till Issue 55 so far by messi	Feb 21st, 2008 06:07:34 AM
It's basically his book and DC leave him on it for however long he likes. I wish Gibbons would come back on Green Lantern Corps, not because it's been bad(it's only been like 3 issues) but because he had the perfect mix of Star Wars and Superheroes.
Fantastic Four #554 (yeah this is NOT about GL) by Shigeru	Feb 21st, 2008 08:37:53 AM
Anyone else get a strong sense of deja vu at the end of the new FF? Like they'd seen it somewhere else... say... the end of that movie Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy?
HOLY SHIT by Psynapse	Feb 21st, 2008 09:10:07 AM
Did I just witness a disagreement wherein both parties were VERY passionate in their stances but remained completely civil in the discourse?? On AICN no less? And people laugh at me when I say the end is near......
Psynapse... by expert_40	Feb 21st, 2008 09:33:18 AM
... it is possible to discuss opposing ideas if you're not such an extremist that your personal ideology overrules your basic human decency.
re: expert_40 by barking_frog	Feb 21st, 2008 10:16:39 AM
It is not, and you're an idiot for even thinking so.
barking_frog by Shigeru	Feb 21st, 2008 10:27:45 AM
FUCK YOU BUDDY
Barking Frog... by expert_40	Feb 21st, 2008 11:10:43 AM
... right back at ya, slick! Haha!
I think he was 'keeding' Shig.... by Psynapse	Feb 21st, 2008 11:55:52 AM
I see the post as deliberate irony myself.
irony/'keeding' by barking_frog	Feb 21st, 2008 12:09:50 PM
You've read my reviews, if I wasn't being ironic there'd be three points at least a paragraph long each supporting my assertion that expert_40 is an idiot. ^.^ But I think Shigeru was just playing along, too.
Iron Man Hasn't Always Been This Or That... by Buzz Maverik	Feb 21st, 2008 12:21:04 PM
...aside from maybe a second tier Marvel character (it's been pointed out that all of the characters not directly created by Kirby or Ditko have either stayed "B" list or taken decades to get to the "A" list, ie Daredevil). Created in the 1960s, Tony Stark is simply the kind of character we would have admired in the 1950s, half Rat Pack and half Rocket Scientist. Prefeminism, pre-PC, the kind of guy who likes babes, bourbon, steaks and cigars. He's the kind of guy we're not supposed to relate to any more, which is a good reason to releate to him. He's positively awash in testosterone, but not in the disgruntled, ultimately powerless Frank Castle way. No, he's the kind of guy who runs things, get things done and has a good time doin' it. Robert Downey Jr. is great casting in 2008. Best casting, keeping in mind that this actor is a wealthy, intellectual, partying hound: Jack Nicholson circa 1973.
Iron Man sequel by barking_frog	Feb 21st, 2008 12:37:41 PM
I like Downey for the role too, but if they ever do a film directly addressing Tony's alcoholism, I'd love to see Nicholas Cage have a shot at it. Leaving Las Vegas convinced me nobody's ever going to do a drunken waste of flesh as well as Cage can.
Woah woah WOAH Buzz!! by Psynapse	Feb 21st, 2008 01:29:13 PM
Ultimately powerless? Umm...but but but what's the point of such a huge body count other than the fun factor then?
Frank Castle does have the charm... by loodabagel	Feb 21st, 2008 07:42:28 PM
I recall he wooed quite a few ladies in that last Punisher story. Iron Man's just a douche-cunt who like to show off his tan and pop his collar.
Intresting New Burb.... by Felix_Happer	Feb 22nd, 2008 08:33:39 AM
Foo Fighters are suing Marvel Comics, home of characters such as Spider-Man, the X-Men and the Hulk, according to RollingStone.com. The band has filed suit against the comics giant for copyright infringement, claiming that the company used "substantial excerpts" of its songs "Best of You" and "Free Me" in a trailer for a new animated series called Wolverine and the X-Men. First Serve International, Toonz Animation India and First Serve Toonz, all producers for the series, were also named in the suit, which seeks unspecified damages.
Psy... by Buzz Maverik	Feb 22nd, 2008 12:30:50 PM
I like THE PUNISHER, PUNISHER'S WAR JOURNAL, PUNNY'S SUPER STORIES and PUNISHER PALS 'N' GALS as much as anybody. But as a character, the Punisher is powerless the way school shooters are powerless(they are powerless to change anyone else, deny themselves the power to change themselves and don't know that they can wait and work through things), or more mildly, the way bullies are powerless. Which is not to say he's a bad guy or a bad character. He's a hurt, wounded character which in fiction makes him one of the greatest characters, actually. One of the most interesting. Same reason that Batman is ultimately more interesting than Superman. Normal characters make boring fiction. But we know that no matter how many hoods the Punisher shoots, he'll never stop that first massacre in Central Park (or whichever park it was). Characters like Tony Stark, Bruce Wayne, Reed Richards, Bruce Banner, etc. are the kind of guys who would run the world without super powers. What makes them great is that their super-powers screw things up for them. I do agree with you though. I think the point of Punny's huge body count is the fun factor. Also, Looda, Frank getting girls has nothing to do with power. Let's see: he's a buff, mysterious guy with a palpable sense of danger about him. He's gonna get the chicks. But he couldn't run a multi-billion dollar conglomerate that provides income for a large portion of the Marvel Universe eastern seaboard. At his best, a non-Punisher Frank Castle could have been an excellent head bodyguard for a non-Iron Man Tony Stark, which would be a cool, high paying job that would have netted him even more chicks, were he unprofessional enough to fall for it, which he wouldn't be.
May Stark's Alcoholism Never Be Addressed... by Buzz Maverik	Feb 22nd, 2008 12:38:33 PM
..in film! Let him be a drunk, not an alcoholic. We don't need role models. We don't need Afterschool Specials: The Superhero Who Drank Too Much. The best Stark is Charlie Wilson. A scientific Hemingway. A super-powered (non-OCD) Howard Hughes. John Huston or Oliver Stone. He's a carouser, who puts on mechanized armor and keeps the Titanium Man and The Crimson Dynamo from crushing us during our morning commute -- if he's awake. But I, too, have often thought that Nic Cage would have been better suited to Iron Man than to Ghost Rider (because I can't buy a dude in his 40s in that role, shoulda been the SPEED RACER kid).
Holy crap! by loodabagel	Feb 22nd, 2008 03:20:05 PM
I got a new issue of Runaways in the mail today. I thought that came out once a year.
Than again... by loodabagel	Feb 22nd, 2008 03:27:01 PM
Is anyone suited for Ghost Rider, the role of a lifetime? Cage's big problem in that movie was that he was asked to play God, Hitler, Han Solo and Genghis Khan all at once. Ghost Rider wears some big mothafuckin shoes. They're hard to fill.
Also, Spidey's Only Naive To Fit The Plot... by Buzz Maverik	Feb 22nd, 2008 05:20:57 PM
He's never been portrayed as naive before, not even in his first appearance. In fact, a lot of Pete's high school problems stemmed from him being light years ahead of Flash, Liz and the rest of the gang at Riverdale. He's seen lots of bad things, lost his innocence early on. He's had to support two people long before he was ready. He's had to haggle with JJJ, usually portrayed for laughs but who would be one of the most powerful people in NY journalism, for every cent he's made. He's come close to dying, seen at least two mentor figures (George Stacey and Miles Warren) die. Been wanted by the law. Seen another mentor figure, then later a best friend go criminally insane. Seen the girl he loves die in an ambiguous way that may have been partially his own fault (later learning that the same girl had borne two children from the killer; btw, this girl was cloned and left on his doorstep as an FU present when he got back from a trip to Paris). Been married. Become a father. Graduated college. Taught school. Joined the Avengers. Worst of all, the guy who wrote him to do something naive, had earlier done some of the best writing for Spidey in years on a celebrated SPIDER-MAN arc.
Oh, Wait... by Buzz Maverik	Feb 22nd, 2008 05:22:08 PM
A lot of that stuff now never happened. Thanks Quesadaphisto.
quesadaphisto by Darth Kal-El	Feb 23rd, 2008 03:49:26 AM
that actually sounded vaguely dirty and like it might give u a venereal desease.'cheese fisting'.spidey continuity was cheese fisted.god its late
hmm... by blackthought	Feb 23rd, 2008 07:51:43 PM
if spidey is the moral center of marvel...then what does making deals with the devil do in that equation? is there is a mephisto skrull that you can make deals with?
OH shit! by loodabagel	Feb 24th, 2008 12:03:56 PM
You mean I'm not trapped in Dimension X? Brand New Day is really happening? The only skrull in town seems to me, to be Quesada. I don't know if anyone else remembers way back in the day when he was writing Iron Man, but there was this great story where Tony's armor came alive. Oddly enough, I went back and reread those issues recently, and not only did they hold up, but Tony was not written as a crazy fascist either. He spent a lot of time womanizing and boozing. I think there may have even been some smoking. Oddly enough, this didn't encourage my young self to live a more hedonistic lifestyle. However, it's still a good thing Quesada took care of that problem before more impressionable youngsters got the wrong idea. I like to think that the cool Joe Quesada is locked up in a basement somewhere with cool Michael Jackson and cool Mel Gibson while their alien counterparts wreck havoc upon the world.
Here's a fun fact... by loodabagel	Feb 24th, 2008 05:16:16 PM
Not only did Jason Bateman star in Teen Wolf Too, but Jeph Loeb wrote the script. I guess that's where the Ultimates 3 came from...
dont forget cool tom cruise by Darth Kal-El	Feb 24th, 2008 05:50:26 PM
seriously if there were skrulls the examples looda gave would fit to a tee. unralated note ive recently been reading the new justice league series and im really liking it. anyone else on board with this one? also hows everyones weekend u glorious comic loving bastards u
Runaways #29 by Psynapse	Feb 25th, 2008 12:49:57 PM
Can someone PLEASE explain to me WHAT. THE. FUCK. was awesome/hard to write/ hard to draw was in this issue to justify a 4 month and 10 day gap in between issues?!? Seriously, I wanna know 'cuz I suer as shit don't see it. DEAR JOSS WHEDON: J-Dude, I am one of THE biggest buffy/angel whores to ever walk the streets so understand this is coming from someone who LOVES the majority of your work. PLEASE DO NOT SOLICIT ANOTHER STORYLINE FOR ANY BOOK THAT YOU DON'T HAVE FINISHED BEFORE THE FIRST ISSUE SHIPS. Seriously dude, this is a REGULAR SCHEDULE industry (or at least it used to be until this all-too-common bullshit became the semi-norm). I call SHENANIGANS on ALL late books from here on out. This shit is fucking CLOWN SHOES man......
I've got nothing clever to say... by loodabagel	Feb 25th, 2008 03:12:35 PM
I agree that it's a complete crock that Whedon can't get his shit together. What a slow bastard.
can tots be titans? by GooberNGrape	Feb 27th, 2008 09:17:05 PM
Dear Tiny Stones, i totally loved your piece on the baby-titans comic for babies, super cute. but it might have been more effective without the preamble. srsly.

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