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Round and round they go.... by Aloy	Feb 14th, 2008 12:48:42 AM
You know the rest.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOST!!!!!! by nalapou	Feb 14th, 2008 01:04:44 AM
Thursday at 9pm is my favourite time of the week.
Yippeeeee by 4815162342	Feb 14th, 2008 01:09:08 AM
Bring on da LOST!
No Torchwood talkbacks any more, huh? by ZeroCorpse	Feb 14th, 2008 01:28:00 AM
But every time Joss Whedon or Sarah Michelle Gellar take a crap anywhere near a movie studio, we get a headline.
OCEANIC 6 by dreamwriter1888	Feb 14th, 2008 01:38:44 AM
The identity of each member of the Oceanic 6 has actually already been revealed a couple of months back on some website, don't really remember which. But for any of you who didn't see it, they are: Kate, Jack, Sayid, Hurley, Sun, and Jin. Yeah, only two hadn't been "oficially" revealed yet, but there you go. Man I'm loving this season. Sucks that we only have 5 more episodes until the 6-week break before the final 6 (assuming that they are in fact able to film 5 additional episodes), but oh well, I still love this show! Here's a link to the article I got most of the above info from: http://www.eonline.com/gossip/ kristin/detail/index.jsp?uuid= cde3739d-0729-45c2-b6bd-9b28c9 f3a06d
Seems the link I posted isn't working, so by dreamwriter1888	Feb 14th, 2008 01:41:43 AM
So here is a link to the page that holds the article, entitled: The Return of Mother, Life and, Oh Yeah, Lost The new link is: http://www.eonline.com/gossip/ kristin/index.jsp
STILL NOT WORKING! by dreamwriter1888	Feb 14th, 2008 01:44:58 AM
Oh, it's because the copy/paste has inserted a random space before "kristin/index.jsp" in the adress. SO anyway....that's enough posts for now...
Isn't it early for this? by Napoleon Park	Feb 14th, 2008 01:46:49 AM
No real complaint... I know how popular these Lost talk-backs are. It's just that every week I have to scroll and skim through a few hundred posts until I get to the point where people are actually discussing the episode after they'se seen it. Everything before that point is the haters, the crazy-talk, people rehashing their pet theories, some ass posting spoilers and everyone else beyoncing about it and name calling. These chats really get good AFTER the episode airs. I'll shut up now before I nanner on and prove my point.
God by Trik_Ster	Feb 14th, 2008 01:48:48 AM
don't bring that character back Both the actor and the character are douches
Dreamwriter 1888 by Napoleon Park	Feb 14th, 2008 01:49:42 AM
Right below the talkback box is the statement "If you are going to post a URL in your comment, please go to TinyUrl.com". They even have it hyperlinked in case you don't already have tinyurl bookmarked. Use it, it makes links that don't break or insert spaces. Or don't use it and look silly. Hope that helps.
I take it that Herc hasn't by Mezzanine	Feb 14th, 2008 01:54:00 AM
seen this episode yet. Fuck, I am excited for 9 pm.
this season is kickin ass by theredtoad	Feb 14th, 2008 01:59:01 AM
it just feels.. heavier than the first three.
Torchwood TB? by gotilk	Feb 14th, 2008 02:08:20 AM
I always love the Lost talkbacks, but they have a point. TWO (count 'em).. 2 episodes of Torchwood aired today and both of them were good. One was exceptional, the other pretty darned decent. And believe it or not, the exceptional one did NOT have Martha Jones in it. And we appear to have lost a major character on the show. Pretty newsworthy.
On tinyurl and Firefox. by gotilk	Feb 14th, 2008 02:11:12 AM
There's a plugin for firefox that allows you to simply right-click and choose "create tinyurl for this page" and it generates it for you from any web page. Even copies it to your clipboard automagically for easy and fast pasting. Find it here: http://tinyurl.com/2pb7f8
Can I just go to sleep... by gotilk	Feb 14th, 2008 02:13:01 AM
.. until this airs? Every week it's like Christmas all over again. (minus the depression and the annoying relatives you never see any other time of the year)
"Why don't they ask more questions?" by Dapper Swindler	Feb 14th, 2008 02:14:43 AM
Because they are emotional, scared, and confused. But Sayid isn't - he'll ask the questions. Every time he says something Sayid doesn't bullshit, he asks question. Not only in last episode but in every episode he's in. Look at episodes like Enter 77. For people who wish more questions were asked Sayid is your messiah.
Ha Eli Stone sucked by skywalkerfamily	Feb 14th, 2008 02:51:15 AM
ABC promotes the shit out of it, and Lost ends up taking it over.
So far Sooo Good. Herc, Do yoiu know by Yeti	Feb 14th, 2008 05:05:22 AM
If ABC is going to play the initial 8 then another 5 eps or are they going to take a "break" and show the final 5 to coincide with sweeps?
LOST schedule by Titus05	Feb 14th, 2008 05:38:34 AM
ASK Aussielo already revaled this info...they are not going to show 8 episodes in the first group...they will instead show 7 episodes take a 4 week break and then return with 6 new episodes (5 + the 1 carryover episode)...Lindeloff said that Episode 7 has a better break point then Episode 8 so that is why they are doing that
So it's been a week and I still have a lingering by Itchy	Feb 14th, 2008 06:00:57 AM
question from the last issue: Is the chick who plays Charlotte hot ? I don't know - there's something about her....
Cynthia Watros in credits by krycek08	Feb 14th, 2008 06:12:52 AM
for "Meet Kevin Johnson"
Charlotte's cute by I Dunno	Feb 14th, 2008 06:26:50 AM
the accent plays.
Check this out...naked people by jackalcack	Feb 14th, 2008 06:46:18 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =UP1QlLmAq1o
You answered your own question, ZeroCorpse by Meglos	Feb 14th, 2008 08:29:42 AM
Expect another Torchwood TB a few months from now, but only because James Marster's character is returning.
Damn that "Gay's Anatomy"!... by Kid Z	Feb 14th, 2008 08:32:37 AM
...lame chick-shit knocking Lost back to 10 PM. Eff you ABC!
Kristen Bell = moron by Epictetus	Feb 14th, 2008 08:53:07 AM
Nice career move. Who wants to live in Hawaii and be on the best show of all time? Better to be on the farce called Heroes. Great news about Kane being cancelled. Bring on more Richard Alpert, the immortal ghost pirate of the Black Rock, finder of ancient soul Jacob, he of the people who built the 4-toed statue!
holy spoilers by tha plow	Feb 14th, 2008 09:28:04 AM
i knew i shouldn't have read that.
Epictetus, for dissing K-Bell, you win... by Pennsy	Feb 14th, 2008 09:43:18 AM
both Complete Series dvd's for Viva Laughlin AND Bionic Woman. I give Charlotte 6 weeks before the smoke monster caps her. ;)
"Oceanic 6" sounds like an Aqua Teen Hunger Force rip off... by Cletus Van Damme	Feb 14th, 2008 10:01:34 AM
...a dolphin, crab, lobster, starfish, octopus and shrimp fight the forces of evil!
Kristen Bell is an idiot by Ashok0	Feb 14th, 2008 10:04:24 AM
Turning down "Lost" for "Heroes"? lol. That would be sort of like Daniel Day Lewis turning down "There Will Be Blood" for a lead role in "Fantastic Four".
K-Bell blew it by righteousdude	Feb 14th, 2008 10:04:59 AM
Have to agree about Kristen's dubious career choices. Given a choice between LOST and Heroes she picks.... the one aimed at 10 year olds that presents absolutely no thesbianic challenge for her. Guess appearing so smart on Veronica Mars was indeed just an "act". Doesn't she have an agent? She needs to fire that guy for letting her make such an obvious mistake.
Airplanes by Epictetus	Feb 14th, 2008 10:05:27 AM
They have these cool things called Airplanes you can ride to other places. Yeah, Charlotte could die very soon but I'm hoping she can use her Archeologist skills on the 4-toed statue. If she busts that mystery, I'm right about K Bell.
I love Kristen Bell by MetiphisLabs	Feb 14th, 2008 10:17:09 AM
But she made an awful decision not to be on Lost.
Spoilers AGAIN - The Six Are and More: by Butt Juice	Feb 14th, 2008 10:28:44 AM
http://tinyurl.com/37p2eo and http://www.aintitcool.com/talk back_display/35461#comment_187 8539
Kristen Bell by mthrndr	Feb 14th, 2008 10:45:36 AM
Could totally redeem herself in my book if she takes her top off in 'forgetting sarah marshall'. somehow I think that's a long shot, though.
Titus05 You're wrong, will be 6 week break by dreamwriter1888	Feb 14th, 2008 10:52:16 AM
You're wrong about the break time, it's going to be 6 weeks. It's been mistakenly reported several times. Plus Ask Ausiello is a mediocre spoiler site anyway, he makes up the questions himself (based on several weeks worth of blogs, it seems quite obvious)and hardly gives out really good scoop. The mediocre spoiler thing could be said the same about the Watch With Kristin articles, but she also also has tons of interviews with cast members, creators, guest stars, etc. of shows, easily making her a better more reliable source of info. I would trust her news quicker than I would ausiellos any day.
Not sure how you missed this by Flyer	Feb 14th, 2008 11:02:37 AM
Since they end the episode with it, but Kate doesn't leave Sawyer. She stays with him. At the end, Sayid tells Jack she stayed back "with Sawyer". Sucka!
The Oceanic Six by Zeframillen	Feb 14th, 2008 11:21:39 AM
Not sure if this has been discussed, i'm sure it has, but isn't it obvious that kate IS NOT one of the oceanic six?? If she were a well known survivor of Oceanic flight 815, she would be IN JAIL, so: either she IS one of the six and assumed someone else's identity, or she somehow got back undetected! discuss.
MetiphisLabs...Kristen Bell's Choice... by Cheif Brody	Feb 14th, 2008 11:24:25 AM
She probably had help making that choice, ML...Lost is a greuling show to work on...you pretty much have to MOVE to Hawaii to do it...and you get an even shorter hiatus than shows that shoot in LA...which makes it more difficult to go off on your break to do films and other projects. Kristen's agent probably had her weigh these factors in...and considering her big jump into movies...she probably felt Heroes was the easier choice....Not the best choice, perhaps...but it will definetly make her ability to do features a lot easier. God...I started reading those damn invisotext spoilers and I had to stop myself!! I've waited this long for NEW episodes of LOST...I just want the SHOW to surprise me...not AICN. But those spoilers are like sweet Valentine's Day candies...and I just wanna rip open the heart shaped box and eat em all up!!
Invisotext by Flyer	Feb 14th, 2008 11:26:39 AM
Don't worry about reading the spoilers. Some of them are flat out wrong anyway.
Thank you gotilk by kitkatbar	Feb 14th, 2008 11:33:23 AM
Thank you for the Firefox "create a tiny URL" add-on. Saves me a lot of time. A Valentine's kiss for you!
We Are Lovin Some Lost Again by Frodo T. Baggins	Feb 14th, 2008 11:50:31 AM
So glad they are off the 2nd island now. Last season they were in those fucking cages back and forth for waaaay too long. This season already rocks. And I love the introduction to the "Poles" and other "certain" areas to be time shifters. IE how the polar bears get on the island. Transport spots. North and South pole. And that place in Australia where whats her name, the dentists wife goes to talk to the Shamen for cancer or whatever. Excellent twist. Anyone caught onto that yet?
Weird... by SlickyVonBoner	Feb 14th, 2008 12:01:53 PM
I had a dream last night about the first episode with Michael back and he was Ben's man on the boat, sabotaging the Outsider's plans. Huh, wonder if it'll come true. (I didn't read the invisotext spoilers) Though, I would rather dream about Kate.. or Juliet.. or both.
The transport spots by Jor-El23	Feb 14th, 2008 12:04:49 PM
I think they've been mentioned but not often. I definitely think the place Rose visits in Australia is very important to the overall scheme and that the same type of thing exists on the island. they're vortices. there's a whole page about it on Lostpedia, it's a theory about the island as a dumping ground for various vortices throughout the world.
Even though I hate Lost and everything it stands for by Sick Fixx	Feb 14th, 2008 12:24:03 PM
I can't wait...
I also believe Kristin had more friends on the cast of Heroes by hst666	Feb 14th, 2008 12:24:56 PM
I also believe Kristin had more friends on the cast of Heroes
Kristen Bell by Jor-El23	Feb 14th, 2008 12:35:00 PM
who wouldn't want to play someone with superpowers? and at the time she signed on Heroes was HUGE and Lost was sort of floundering in a sea of fan backlash and negative feedback from critics. It was a business decision and she is, if not the Queen of the Dorks, the Princess of the Dorks. She knows her constituency.
Barack Obama to guest star in season finale by dogphart3000	Feb 14th, 2008 12:38:12 PM
In episode titled "Hope & Change" Obama will pay a mysterious visitor to the island. He will inform the survivors that the old ways are no longer working and that Change is needed. Hurley weeps openly. Locke then drops Obama with a 45, and the series continues on it's preordained destiny.
Very fucking cool. by Mezzanine	Feb 14th, 2008 12:38:31 PM
Even though I feel kind of bad for Nestor Cardonell about Cane being cancelled, I really wish he had just stuck with LOST. Richard Halpert is obviously going to be an epic character, and he will be HUGE in season five, guaranteed.
Richard HALPERT?... by Cheif Brody	Feb 14th, 2008 12:51:53 PM
Is that Jim Halpert's brother from "The Office"? Oh...I hope Dwight shows up. too!
Oops, by Mezzanine	Feb 14th, 2008 12:53:59 PM
I misspelled that. My bad.
Don't weep for Richard by righteousdude	Feb 14th, 2008 12:56:42 PM
Since Cane has been Cancelled, Nestor is free to return to the Island for these final 5 episodes methinks. Hope so, the creepily ageless Richard Alpert ups the weirdness quotient. And I loves me some weird.
Is ABC trying to kill Lost? by MachThree	Feb 14th, 2008 12:58:55 PM
Isn't shuffling the timeslot around over and over again what they do with shows that they're no longer comitted to, and for which they don't particularly care if it keeps its audience? What gives ABC?
Richard Alpert is able to travel through time by SpyGuy	Feb 14th, 2008 01:56:08 PM
That's why he appears to be ageless. Either that, or he's actually Satan and everybody on the island is seriously fucked.
Kristen Bell knew she'd look like crap next to the other women o by ZeroCorpse	Feb 14th, 2008 02:09:57 PM
She knew she'd be the least attractive woman on the show, so she passed on it. Vain little blond girl!!! And yes, I know; We'll get a Torchwood talkback when Marsters is back on the show. Otherwise, the only articles we get in coax are when other members of the Whedoniverse or the Veronica Marsiverse wander into the spotlight for a few seconds. No time to post a talkback for other SciFi shows, because someone's too busy yiffing their Buffy/Spike posters.
I admit it. I like Kristen Bell. by ZeroCorpse	Feb 14th, 2008 02:20:17 PM
But my taste is dubious.
50 years from now by Epictetus	Feb 14th, 2008 02:37:12 PM
People will be talking about Lost. Nobody will know what Heroes was. It has no lasting quality, it's like junk food. Lost is ambrosia from the gods.
Naveen KNOWS! by gotilk	Feb 14th, 2008 02:38:49 PM
Well, either that or he's teasing the crap out of us. From the interview with Digital Spy: Do you have any theories on how the show will end? "I know where, geographically, the show will end but I don't know any more details than that." When did you discover that? "At the same time that I got the script for my episode." Can you tell us more? "No. I'm so sorry, I can't say any more. I really wish I could. Forgive me!"
Puh-LEEZE, get the frak outta here... by Pennsy	Feb 14th, 2008 02:39:04 PM
The most attractive, you mean. The claws would be Wolverine-esque in length if Bell went on that set; it would be a battle for second place. You know it, too. :)
Yiffing... by gotilk	Feb 14th, 2008 02:40:56 PM
I haven't stopped laughing yet. Something about that word. I will find an excuse to use it at least 5 times this week.
Another reason Kristin didn't take it... by Cheif Brody	Feb 14th, 2008 03:30:04 PM
...is that the CS Lewis character is slated to DIE in 5 or 6 episodes? Ana Lucia (MR) & Eko (AAA) only joined Lost BECAUSE they were told their characters wouldn't be around long...but they like the show & characters so much...they fit Lost into their scedules. It's possible Kiristen was looking for something more long lasting. But I have a feeling vainity or jealous castmates had little to do with it...and sounds a bit like 10th grader bullshit to me.
Howdy folks by Shepard Bauer	Feb 14th, 2008 03:46:14 PM
long time no see... so I want to get everyone's opinion on the people that "found" Oceanic 815. There were all those webisodes with the guy who's girlfriend was the stewardess... do you think he'll show up anytime soon? He seemed like he'd be a good addition to the show and he's got plenty of motivation, he could kinda be our 'in' to discovering everything about how the others operate... if the others really even matter anymore, now that the Freighter Four are on the island. How do you think that plane got down there?
where's da spoilers by Guy Gaduois	Feb 14th, 2008 03:50:43 PM
I got a friggin' business meeting/dinner tonight and have to fly eastward afterward, meaning that I'll have no DVR access til Monday. Somebody give up the goods, have mercy on a poor dumb basta'd who needs a little break. I got two hours to find info, time is short, help me out, brutha.
I have a real question by Napoleon Park	Feb 14th, 2008 04:11:10 PM
not about yiffing. What does ABC mean in the ads for the rerun of the previous weeks episode when they describe it as "enhanced"? They're trying to tempt us to watch an episode we already saw and most of us taped or tivo'd. So what is the enhancement? Are they letterboxed? In 3-D with 5.1 surround sound? Psychedlic LSD color with new colors we haven't seen before? Wait, I have a theory but I hope I'm wrong. Is it that stupid pop up video captioning they tried out with the clip show? That sucked. I bet that's what it is, isn't it?
RE: "Locke then drops Obama with a 45..." by DevilCat	Feb 14th, 2008 05:01:51 PM
RE: "Locke then drops Obama with a 45, and the series continues on it's preordained destiny." Locke is Hillary Clinton?
Lost to take six-week break by Hercules	Feb 14th, 2008 05:16:14 PM
According to Kristin Veitch Dos Santos at E!: "The last episode of the current pod (episode seven) will air Mar. 13. Then the show will be off the air for six weeks and return Apr. 24 at 9 p.m. That Apr. 24 episode will be the already-completed episode eight, which was filmed prestrike, but which apparently works much better as a minipremiere than it does as a minifinale."
by AllieJamison	Feb 14th, 2008 05:26:27 PM
It's fucking good times if you can just close that window in which an Indy trailer is playing and go right over to an episode of Lost. I didn't read the superspoilers. I hope this ep will have some Desmond. Anyway...I loved last season's Sayid flashback...is this going to be a flashforward?
Off-Topic Michael by StuckInthePresentPaused	Feb 14th, 2008 05:31:21 PM
Ok i know this is off topic but the thoguht just popped in my head and i had to get out and let people throw it around. Alot of people seem to think that Michael is Ben's guy on the freighter but i mean at this point its Michael has only been gone for like 30 days so how can that have happened so quickly
Node...CS LEWIS DEATH!! by Cheif Brody	Feb 14th, 2008 05:33:23 PM
That was a question, Node...NOT a statement of fact. I'm only speculatinbg that her character isn't scheduled to be around very long...I mean...her very first episode she took 2 in the chest!!...But it's possible in her discussions with Darlton that they informed her it will only be an 8 episode gig...and Kristen didn't want to uproot her whole life for an 8 episode stint. JUST ANOTHER THEORY...as to why she may have chosen to be a "Hero" rather than a "Frieghtee". Thanks for the update Herc...I remember Darlton being uneasy about episode 8 being a "finale" when the writers went on strike. Now it makes sense why...Ep 4.7 is the better "break" episode.
Cheif Brody did have a ? at the end of that, yes... by Pennsy	Feb 14th, 2008 05:46:12 PM
So it was just speculation on his part. I kid around about those who dump on KB being heathens and what not, but it's to our mutual benefit that scripted shows like Lost succeed; otherwise we'll have more reality shows like Human Tetris or some other godsfammit crapola :o
Oceanic Six are Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, Claire, and Dan by Ashok0	Feb 14th, 2008 05:49:09 PM
Just kidding... I really have no idea. The suspense is KILLING me tho!!! Stay away from the spoilers!
2 hours and counting!! by Cheif Brody	Feb 14th, 2008 05:56:47 PM
I'm so tempted to read those spoilers...must...not...read.. .them....Show....on....in....2 ...hours!!!
Thank God that I will die alone by Mr. Mcpoops	Feb 14th, 2008 05:58:33 PM
Because I don't have plans and can watch this tonight. Wahoo.
Michael...the "man" on the boat?... by Cheif Brody	Feb 14th, 2008 06:02:24 PM
I doubt it, Stuck. We never saw Ben give Michael any "special instructions" on what to do when he was "rescued" out at sea with Walt. I have a feeling Ben's "Man" on the boat is ON the boat to pick UP Michael...take Walt from him...send Mike off on a helicopter to the mainland...where he can be reassimilated into society with an assumed identity...kill everyone on board...and bring Walt BACK to the island. That's the "mission" I think Ben's "man" is suppose to carry out.
I'm thinking Mike IS the man on the boat... by Shepard Bauer	Feb 14th, 2008 06:08:55 PM
btw, anyone else here find irony in the fact a bunch of guys on the internet keep asking each other 'where the little man on the boat' is? You have to think about the specific words Ben said to Michael: Go to the heading 325 (or whatever**)and YOU WILL FIND RESCUE. Hrmm, interresting.
Shep...Sure...Ben gave Mike coordinates... by Cheif Brody	Feb 14th, 2008 06:18:14 PM
...but he didn't say..."Now...when you get picked up....I need you to do this...and kill that person...and take someone hostage..." etc. I think Ben's "man" was put on that boat long before Michael & Walt ever left the island. I also don't think Walt ever was allowed to leave the island...he was far too special to just let sail away.... But Ben had to give the "appearance" that he was letting him leave...to look like a "good guy" in front of the spinal surgeon he was about to ask to save his life. The master manipulator strikes again.
Do they really need to take six fucking weeks off? by The_Squid	Feb 14th, 2008 06:19:35 PM
So much for a full, uninterupted season.
I'd rather by Bloo	Feb 14th, 2008 06:26:40 PM
they take 6 weeks off so we can get an almost complete season then they take off till Fall or even January of 09
4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42 by john j rambo	Feb 14th, 2008 06:40:13 PM
15, 16 = Jin & Sun
Sorry Kate's Hubby and Dead guy in paper. by EvilWizardGlick	Feb 14th, 2008 06:58:10 PM
Those are two of the "six". Lost has no overall cohesive plot. They pull storyline out of their collective asses as it goes along. Fucking Serenity had a plan. yep I still watch it. But I know they make it up as they go along so I'm not as involved in divining the intent of the show.
Others were SUPERMEN, now pathetic whiners. by EvilWizardGlick	Feb 14th, 2008 07:00:20 PM
Just making a point about directionless Lost.
10 items TB, Reno911 tb. by EvilWizardGlick	Feb 14th, 2008 07:01:04 PM
Where are those? Where is the Nip/Tuck?
Cheif... by Shepard Bauer	Feb 14th, 2008 07:05:15 PM
well, I kinda disagree with you. I think Ben HAD to let Walt go with his dad... did you watch the Missing Pieces? They were all terrified of him... I think that worked to Ben's advantage, just like Locke blowing up the sub also worked to his advantage since he didn't want to let Jack leave. And even if he didn't tell Michael what's going on, he very well may have told Walt what's going on. Walt convinced John to try and stop the Freighters from getting to the island, remember, that's the same objective as Ben... god its good to be back...
Cheif, Shepard by StuckInthePresentPaused	Feb 14th, 2008 07:20:53 PM
i concur i just dont see how it can be Michael in such a short time frame its not enough to set all that up for Micahel to be the one. I think Michael will inevitably be the one Jack turns to to get back to the island but its anyones guess isnt it
Cant help but have man crush.... by chanandler bong	Feb 14th, 2008 07:23:06 PM
...on Sawyer. God is he sexy!
I wonder if Michael will show up before episode 8 by The_Squid	Feb 14th, 2008 07:27:56 PM
That would be a nice surprise. I really want to see what happened to him and walt. Good thing Sayid has the flash forward tonight. We don't get nearly enough Sayid on this show.
The Oceanic 6 HAVE ALREADY BEEN REVEALED A LONG TIME AGO by dreamwriter1888	Feb 14th, 2008 07:32:35 PM
And seriously, people thinking Claire is one of them...lol... And if you don't believe my earlier post, and just CAN'T find a site that confirms what I say, think about it this way: the creators said that we would know who the 6 were before these 8 episodes were up, and if you look at who the episodes are about you see Sayid, Kate, Desmond, Juliet, Sun/Jin, and Michael. So lets think about this. Of those names only Sayid, Kate, Sun, Jin, and Michael were on the Oceanic 815 flight. Jack and Kate and Hurley have already been revealed, leaving 3 spots. Tonight we find out Sayid is one of them, leaving only 2 spots. Considering Michael isn't even currently on the island ( and even if his episode is a flash-forward ) he probably won't be considered an oceanic flight member. Also it looks like he will get a new identity, as the title of his episode suggests: "Meet Kevin Johnson", and if he was an Oceanic 6, why would he have to change his name? So that leaves 2 spots and two people...there you go. Yay!!!!!!!! We could be detectives and give Dick Tracy a run for his money!!!!!! YAY!!!!!!!!! Oh and thanks for the update Herc, the one I already posted on here at 1 AM this morning! Post #7 Now I take a bow, return to my lost repeat and await the new episode, while letting the bashing begin.
the numbers are the passengers that get off the island by Yeti	Feb 14th, 2008 07:36:42 PM
That would make sense in a twisted sort of way...question is what of the others?
so? by The Dum Guy	Feb 14th, 2008 07:45:09 PM
When will this season end, August?
aaaaaaaawww dude, not cool sayid by Pipple	Feb 14th, 2008 08:06:35 PM
not cool.
WHSHDSFH by Norm Cascade	Feb 14th, 2008 08:06:59 PM
Holy shit. Okay, so what did Sayid say there? "I insist, Mr. ______"
I wish I was Sayid by Charlie Murphy	Feb 14th, 2008 08:07:56 PM
"what do you do for a living?" "i do nothing" that's the dream right there... GODDAYYYYYYM! just blew that guy away! that was so awesome...
Don't fuck with sayid by REBEL_SKUM	Feb 14th, 2008 08:08:26 PM
Holy shit that was sweet.... sayid is pissed!
WOW! Sayid is off the island and an assassin... by BrokenHeath	Feb 14th, 2008 08:08:47 PM
...heh, but knowing him he had a reason to off this guy. Couldn't have been scared of Sayid as soon as he mentioned he was one of the Oceanic 6 without a reason.
God damn by kyle051554	Feb 14th, 2008 08:09:46 PM
Sayid is a total badass.
Now that's how you start a show. by SID 8.0	Feb 14th, 2008 08:11:56 PM
I like how he timed it so the sprinklers would come on washing away any forensic evidence.
THEY SAID NO BREAKS! by v1cious	Feb 14th, 2008 08:12:42 PM
that was the whole point of making us wait a whole year. fuck you!
Shut up, v1cious by Norm Cascade	Feb 14th, 2008 08:17:20 PM
Whining fucking maggot.
Sayid killed a Mr. Avelino by mthrndr	Feb 14th, 2008 08:17:49 PM
according to CC. I thought he might be part of the Hanso board, but I checked Lostpedia - no such luck.
v1cious - lest yo forget . . by Spacejockey426	Feb 14th, 2008 08:19:58 PM
. . . there was a writers strike which ended yesterday . . . it is better than getting just 8 episodes, which would have been the case if the strike had continued too much longer. If you don't like it, tape 'em all and watch 'em all in May, back-to-back.
help by mephista1013	Feb 14th, 2008 08:20:49 PM
so i live in the NIU area and the local ABC channel just showed a news conference. Can anyone tell me what happened in the first 20 minutes???
I have Jabba the Hutt fantasies about Kate... by Sick Fixx	Feb 14th, 2008 08:27:38 PM
Soon she will learn to appreciate me... :licks her face:
@v1cious by BrokenHeath	Feb 14th, 2008 08:28:23 PM
They had no control over the writer's strike.
i understand that... by v1cious	Feb 14th, 2008 08:31:41 PM
and i know the strike just ended, but they already have the episodes finished. what possible explanation could there be for a break?
Wow, laying on the "I'm an asshole" bit a little thick aren't th by Pipple	Feb 14th, 2008 08:33:15 PM
bad writing
I'm sorry I went with Locke by MeshGearFoxx	Feb 14th, 2008 08:36:37 PM
there you go...
what a fag, hurley by Pipple	Feb 14th, 2008 08:37:04 PM

Napoleon Park by gotilk	Feb 14th, 2008 08:38:53 PM
In the enhanced version, you can taste all the colors and you can smell the sounds. Maybe that was just me. Those postage stamps my old friend mailed me were kinda weird. I'm gonna do another mailing tonight at about 7.
Off-Topic Michael by gotilk	Feb 14th, 2008 08:47:33 PM
Guilt is a powerful motivator. How many promises can you make to a man like Ben and keep on keeping them, no matter what effect it has on innocent lives when you can have your cake and eat it, too? At personal risk, of course. Walt is either at risk at this point, dead or safe. That's really the question, isn't it?
BLAM!!! by Norm Cascade	Feb 14th, 2008 08:50:25 PM
"Happy Valentine's Day, bitch!"
real smart lady, just give him time to find a gun by Pipple	Feb 14th, 2008 08:50:52 PM
this show has jumped the shark for like the tenth time yet I still want to see more. sigh...what the hell
this season kicks friggin ass by mthrndr	Feb 14th, 2008 08:51:48 PM
And I say that not knowing who the hell Sayid is working for, who that bitch was working for. And I don't care. At this point I'm just going with it.
STILL NOTHING HAPPENING by Sick Fixx	Feb 14th, 2008 08:55:16 PM
They are d r a g g i n g us along!!! LITERALLY NOTHING happened this episode or was revealed!!! Just a bunch of empty rhetoric and innuendo. Hurley betrayed somebody. That's the only thing that happened, and it wasn't even that noteworthy. FUCK, GET ON WITH IT, CHRONICALLY LAZY ASS PRIMADONNA WRITERS!!!
v1cious - this should explain the deal with this season of LOST by Spacejockey426	Feb 14th, 2008 08:55:41 PM
http://tinyurl.com/37phgn
5 minutes to go... by Sick Fixx	Feb 14th, 2008 08:56:10 PM
and they FINALLY dust off and drag out Desmond for what amounts to a cameo. These people are hopeless.
FINALLY by Sick Fixx	Feb 14th, 2008 09:00:50 PM
About fucking time something happened!
oh yeah by MeshGearFoxx	Feb 14th, 2008 09:01:40 PM
Ben is not in the coffin
HOLY SHIT!!! by Shermdawg	Feb 14th, 2008 09:02:07 PM

this season by MeshGearFoxx	Feb 14th, 2008 09:02:26 PM
is kicking ass. I love this show
WOW by smutpeddlar	Feb 14th, 2008 09:03:00 PM
W O W
I LOVE LOST by kyle051554	Feb 14th, 2008 09:04:00 PM
That is all.
Zeframillen by Butt Juice	Feb 14th, 2008 09:06:04 PM
Spoilers Next week is Kate's trial. She is not prosecuted because her mom decides not to testify, and no one cared that she killed a mean sum'bitch
So at least EIGHT get off the island... by RyanMurray	Feb 14th, 2008 09:07:07 PM
I mean, think about it. The 'Oceanic Six' are Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, ???, ???. Ben and Desmond can't be counted towards that tally, because they were never on Oceanic 815. So hell, maybe even Juliet gets off the island (but probably dies, contributing towards Jacks downward spiral) along with those two. Fuckin' tasty!
for those of you always complaining by mthrndr	Feb 14th, 2008 09:07:12 PM
That "nothing happened" - you really should have stopped watching after like the 3rd episode of season one. This is what LOST is. This was a great, classic episode. I have no sympathy for you.
Hey Sick Fixx . . . by Spacejockey426	Feb 14th, 2008 09:07:45 PM
Setup and intrigue. . . more of the puzzle is revealed. Sometimes things click into place, other times we see a fascinating new piece and have a general idea where it could fit . . . The whole show is one big 4 dimensional puzzle. I'll tell you what I told Bryan Burke when I met him in New York - anyone unsatisfied with the pacing of the show show step away from the table and move along. For me, the journey is the thing that matters most - and what a cool trip it continues to be . . . .
Who said nothing's happening? by Larry of Arabia	Feb 14th, 2008 09:09:13 PM
This show is a runaway train this year. We know what happened to everyone off the island. The reveals are big. I'm loving the show again.
so the tracker took 30 min more than it should.. by mthrndr	Feb 14th, 2008 09:09:48 PM
anyone care to guess why? Wormhole? Time warp? Definitely something sci fi.
FREAKING AWESOME EPISODE!!!! by Ashok0	Feb 14th, 2008 09:09:58 PM
SUCK IT, Lost haters... this show bloody delivers.
good ep spoiler by adzigjo	Feb 14th, 2008 09:10:07 PM
cant believe ___ makes it off the island
mthrndr by catlettuce4	Feb 14th, 2008 09:11:37 PM
time just slows down on the island. which is why jack couldn't believe it had only been 100 days. it felt a lot longer.
Hurley is an other? by skywalkerfamily	Feb 14th, 2008 09:12:00 PM
OMG!
Every episode of LOST S4 > Company Man by Ashok0	Feb 14th, 2008 09:12:18 PM
See topic.
Hey RyanMurray . . . never thought of that . .. by Spacejockey426	Feb 14th, 2008 09:12:26 PM
. . . Eight would be the number of people who get off the island . . . the numbers must be satisfied, after all. I suspect Desmond could be the eighth. Perhaps there is something in his flashes that we saw in a few episodes in season 3 that could clue us in to his flashforward destiny . . . .
Best show on television by ballyhoo	Feb 14th, 2008 09:13:18 PM
Damn. I am always surprised at how consistent Lost is. Quality writing again and again and again. Freaking great show, with yet another great ep.
nothing happened? by Bouncy X	Feb 14th, 2008 09:14:06 PM
so finding out sayid becomes an assassin and works for ben is nothing?
Trippy Ep/Question for Herc by evolution1085	Feb 14th, 2008 09:15:41 PM
Never saw Sayid's Boss being ___ Hey Herc, Where did you get that bit about Sayid working with "Michael" from? Did you get swerved by bad intel or was that a foiler to keep us honest?
Fuck!?!! by ChrisVenom	Feb 14th, 2008 09:19:12 PM
That ending shot down my Ben's in the coffin theory
WTF!?! by Billyeveryteen	Feb 14th, 2008 09:19:17 PM
Seriously, What The Fuck???
I also liked the question about the BoSox by mthrndr	Feb 14th, 2008 09:21:24 PM
They left it open as to whether it is 2004 or 2007/8 in the outside world...The pilot could have been more upset because of the Red Sox's TWO WS championships. Because of that, it could be either.
Don't forget Clair & Baby by br1947	Feb 14th, 2008 09:22:14 PM
Desmond saw them get on the chopper... whether they get off the island... who knows?
Oohh by ChrisVenom	Feb 14th, 2008 09:22:25 PM
Sorry about my last post westcoasters.
Ben!? by therobcat	Feb 14th, 2008 09:24:15 PM
This is the best season of Lost since the 1st as far as I'm concerned. Every episode adds a new layer and chacters have moved in directions I never saw coming, but still make a strange sort of sense. I thought for sure it would be Ben in the coffin, but this is so much better... so much more interesting! I thought it might be Jack's dad since it ended in a medical setting, but it was so great to see Ben looking healthy and focused... Things haven't been going to well for him of late. I am so happy that the writers made a deal and we don't have to suffer a non-intended cliffhanger. Even if the show does have to go off the air for a while, it's well worth it! Next Thursday can't come fast enough...
chrisvenom... by mthrndr	Feb 14th, 2008 09:24:56 PM
I think westcoasters know to stay off this board until they see the episode.
Ben in Coffin by arby64	Feb 14th, 2008 09:25:36 PM
Ben could still be in the coffin. Sayid's flashforward could take place before Jacks. However, Michael is still the most likely IMO.
What was the last thing Sayid said? by lbayniner	Feb 14th, 2008 09:26:11 PM
Anybody??
Jules just left the diner. by BillyPilgrim	Feb 14th, 2008 09:26:59 PM
On the way out he gave his Bad Motherfucker wallet to Sayid.
I agree with SpaceJockey by ProoferFromHell	Feb 14th, 2008 09:27:12 PM
I don't care how long it takes to get to the destination, I'm lovin' every minute of the journey there. Haters, go home.
hey idiots, ben can still be in the coffin by krycek08	Feb 14th, 2008 09:27:52 PM
you don't know when in the future this flash was. hurley's was before jack's you people are stupid as shit.
Ibayniner by catlettuce4	Feb 14th, 2008 09:28:23 PM
Sayid said they know that he's coming after them now. as in the guys sayid is trying to kill now know sayid is coming after them. then ben said good.
Ibayniner... by mthrndr	Feb 14th, 2008 09:30:15 PM
Sayid: They know who I am now Ben: Good.
one more thing-sayids target by lbayniner	Feb 14th, 2008 09:31:15 PM
thanks cattle the audio got fuzzy and i thought he said "they'll know i'm coming" but it sounded like 10 different things. also, was ilsa always sayids target or did he just not get a chance to get her boss?
Zoe Bell by alex138	Feb 14th, 2008 09:31:25 PM
so Zoe Bell was in the guest star credits as well as last episodes but was absent. I guess she is Regina back on the boat?
Actually Herc's info said.. by Jonah Echo	Feb 14th, 2008 09:31:44 PM
Sayid works for the man who killed Ana Lucia and Libby. Now that is Michael, definitely. But whomever gave that info thought they were being clever because ultimately orders came from Ben to get rid of Ana L, and both were killed for Ben's benefit. Nothing above actually said "Sayid works for Michael" though that's also what I inferred it to mean. Great episode. Cool to see Sayid being 007.
The payload fired by Jor-El23	Feb 14th, 2008 09:32:00 PM
The thing that's most interesting to me about that whole thing with the payload being fired is that according to the woman on the boat it had reached the destination, which I assume is that device Daniel set up. So the island is 31 minutes in the past, right?
If Ben was leaving the island on a regular basis by Jor-El23	Feb 14th, 2008 09:32:30 PM
why couldn't he leave to get surgery?
I think we're to assume Sayid got her boss by mthrndr	Feb 14th, 2008 09:32:49 PM
And went to get fixed up by ben afterward.
mephista - it started by theBigE	Feb 14th, 2008 09:33:07 PM
West Coast - here's how the show started, so skip if you don't want to be spoiled!! Sayid is off Island, playing golf, meets another guy, they talk, Sayid says he's one of the Oceanic Six, then kills the other guy. Then Sayid "bumps into" the blonde chick in Berlin, says he's a headhunter, and they make dinner plans. Meanwhile, back on the island, Sayid, Miles, and Kate go to get Charlotte, while Hurley questions why they are keeping her hostage. Hope that helps.
Ben could still be in the coffin. by LOTGA	Feb 14th, 2008 09:34:04 PM
Jack seemed pretty okay in Hurley's flash forward, so there's not telling how long before Jack's flash forward from the end of Season 3 it takes place.
Sayid and Ben by Yo Yo Ma	Feb 14th, 2008 09:34:20 PM
What does Sayid say to ben, before ben says, "good" at the very end of the episode, he kinda of mumbleded. I rewound 5 times, could not make it out.
What's with the different planes labelled 815? by Piltdown Joey	Feb 14th, 2008 09:35:45 PM
We have a cockpit on the island, and we have a cockpit under water! Whassup?
Bullshit, you people aren't paying attention by Sick Fixx	Feb 14th, 2008 09:36:02 PM
THis was not a runaway train episode. It d r a g g e d and, as I predicted, it once again ended with some cryptic words and a reveal that will not be followed up on next week. It was a shocking reveal, but it probably won't even be touched up on before the break the writers said wasn't going to happen.
Ben's not in the coffin by therobcat	Feb 14th, 2008 09:36:12 PM
If anything, Ben is working with Sayid, and I believe he might be working against the dark forces behind Abadon and Oceanic. because of this, I think perhaps one or two people might have shown up at his funeral.
Ben Linus: Hero by therobcat	Feb 14th, 2008 09:37:35 PM
I guess I'm just holding out hope that Ben turns out to be on the side of the angels. The cruel avenging angels...
And Xiphos, you can see more of those cans in GIA by Piltdown Joey	Feb 14th, 2008 09:37:42 PM

I'm paying attention by therobcat	Feb 14th, 2008 09:38:18 PM
I saw no dragging.
Sick Fixx - are you 12 years old? by theBigE	Feb 14th, 2008 09:39:11 PM
Because I work with ADHD kids, and they have absolutely no patience. For anything. They want everything now, and they can't prolong anything. They aren't capable of it. And your attitude reminds me of them.
Check out Heroes Season 2 if you want dragging by therobcat	Feb 14th, 2008 09:40:58 PM
And I say that with love because I'm actually a huge fan. I just think they didn't quite live up to their potential.
Exactly what pieces of 'the puzzle' were revealed tonight? by Sick Fixx	Feb 14th, 2008 09:41:54 PM
Aside from Ben and Sayid's little alliance, what else was revealed? Because I saw nothing else of substance unfolding on my television screen.
UGHHH by catlettuce4	Feb 14th, 2008 09:42:13 PM
the island is probably not 31 minutes past. that doesn't make sense. it's probably some proportion. what was the actual time, something like 3 hours? so maybe the island is 1/6 slower than the real world.
RE:alex138 by movieman742	Feb 14th, 2008 09:42:51 PM
Zoe Bell was in the guest starring credits because there were scenes with her body. The voice on the phone does sound a little like her though but I'm pretty sure the name is there because of the few scenes they had with the body. It's happened on 24 before.
Don't talk to me about ADHD... by Sick Fixx	Feb 14th, 2008 09:44:02 PM
Talk to the writers of Lost, who concoct dozens of new characters every season to play with and kill off so they don't have to worry about advancing the story they began with. I read Russian novels, Kerouac's Stream of Consciousness works, Japanese Surrealism, political tracts and manifestos. I have a very intense attention span when something of worth and substance is being conveyed to me. I'm just finishing up Dead Souls by Gogol.
What was revealed? by therobcat	Feb 14th, 2008 09:47:06 PM
The island is in a temporal flux, Sayid is a shifty motherfucker, Hurley has more of an affinity for the island than Locke does (he could have found the cabin), Ben is off the island, the bracelet that both Naomi and Elsa had, The passports... what the hell else do you want?
Character development! by theBigE	Feb 14th, 2008 09:48:40 PM
Sick Fixx - have you ever heard about character development? The story is more compelling if you empathize with the characters, watch them grow, see them change. It's not all about hard-core action, but we get our share of that. The show rocked - I loved the surprises, the twists, the reveal! Dragged? Do what I do, DVR it, start it 20 minutes late, and cut the commercials. That might help your ADHD situation. Also Ritalin.
Sick Fixx by Ashok0	Feb 14th, 2008 09:48:52 PM
Maybe you should stick to Eli Stone.
Sick fixx and other haters by Yo Yo Ma	Feb 14th, 2008 09:49:05 PM
The amazing thing about Lost is that people hate the show, Like Sick Fixx, yet still never miss it. That is what is so confusing. If you hate the show so much, hate the lack of "big reveals" or the you believe "they make it up as they go along" why do you watch it? Even more confusing is why after watching a show you hate, post on a forum to talk about a show you hate. Here is some advice, find a new show. of a hobby of something.
I agree with Yo Yo Ma by therobcat	Feb 14th, 2008 09:50:41 PM
100%
theBigE by esque	Feb 14th, 2008 09:51:10 PM
Sir, you don't understand. Sick Fixx is literate. He is able to read words on paper, some of them even having been written in other languages. He doesn't have time to sit through an entire hour just for a few reveals and some character development. Also, he is a gigantic douchebag.
therobcat by Sick Fixx	Feb 14th, 2008 09:52:12 PM
All those things are intangibles that do nothing to further the plot FOR REAL. Adding or subtracting any of those things does nothing to get the characters of Lost who are plenty developed as they are from Point A to Point B. Ashok0, I've already explained my tastes are more refined than 'Eli Stone'. And I'm not crying for more knockouts and explosions. The knockouts and explosions have increased this season, which most of you people mistake for action. "Never mistake motion for action" - Ernest Hemingway
Thanks esque! by theBigE	Feb 14th, 2008 09:53:01 PM
I know I should never try to reason with a troll!
Sick Fixx by SuperBurgerBat	Feb 14th, 2008 09:53:05 PM
What a pretentious assbag!
You people are amazing by Sick Fixx	Feb 14th, 2008 09:54:14 PM
I dare to think against the Cult of Lost Being Genius Storytelling and you castigate me by calling me a douchebag, a name rendered by the New Millennium Youth just as formulaic and cliche as the writing on your beloved program.
Sick Fix by therobcat	Feb 14th, 2008 09:54:15 PM
You are an odd one. They just don't make shows like Airwolf anymore do they? sigh
Temporal Flux? I say parallel universes. by Piltdown Joey	Feb 14th, 2008 09:55:05 PM
In one universe, the plane breaks apart and some survive, in another universe, the whole plane goes under the water and no one survives. We, as observers, are caught "in between" universes being exposed by the producers.
Cult of Personality, that is by SuperBurgerBat	Feb 14th, 2008 09:55:30 PM
Watch out guys, there's a troll under the bridge, and he's reading Gogol...
Where was Michael? by Spiny Norman	Feb 14th, 2008 09:55:40 PM
I know I saw Harold Parinneau (sp?) listed in the credits. I thought we would see him this episode.
Hahaha! by Sick Fixx	Feb 14th, 2008 09:55:57 PM
Keep going back to your summer blockbusters, what'll it be this year: Thundercats? And reassure yourselves you're intelligent because you watch Lost too.
"Glocked" I like the verb. by Piltdown Joey	Feb 14th, 2008 09:56:07 PM

I think it's a love/hate situation w/ the show. by GQtaste	Feb 14th, 2008 09:56:26 PM
Peopel have such high standards when it comes every week they want to be blown away. And when they're not they get let down. I"Ve done this many, many times myself. I get pissed off and the constant love triangle they pull agian and again and again. And other things too. Also sometimes it appears that they do keep folks hanging on w/ old stuff and introduce new characters w/o ansering the bigger questions.
Spiny by SuperBurgerBat	Feb 14th, 2008 09:57:20 PM
He's been in the credits for since the start of the season, but yet to have been seen.
I like the parallel universe thing too by therobcat	Feb 14th, 2008 09:57:48 PM
I can see that as well. Either way, I'm freakin' loving it.
YoYoMa by RevengeOfJobu	Feb 14th, 2008 09:58:10 PM
YoYoMa could not be more correct.
Troll? by Sick Fixx	Feb 14th, 2008 09:58:30 PM
I have a different opinion than you people. I didn't invite you all to an argument. I stated my case, which is what you do in a talkback. I think most people with controversial opinions that threaten those who are certain of their love for something get branded as trolls. Too bad this talkback can't be as three dimensional as the amazing Super Tuesday talkback. Now THAT had some substance. This one is more one-sided than the graphics on Pong.
Sick Fix by therobcat	Feb 14th, 2008 09:58:55 PM
Are you one of those people who thought No Country For Old Men didn't have an ending?
Berlin scene question by theBigE	Feb 14th, 2008 09:59:38 PM
That "snow" in the streets of Berlin - did they film that in Hawaii? It was rapidly melting, but those watching with me disagreed that it was filmed on the islands.
See? Why can't more of you be like GQ? by Sick Fixx	Feb 14th, 2008 09:59:40 PM
He argued my side without actually turning coat on the 'Til Series Finale Do You Part' crowd.
Ben by RevengeOfJobu	Feb 14th, 2008 09:59:44 PM
I'm assuming Ben was the one Kate referred to when she said "He will know I've been gone" or something to that effect in last season's finale. Ben probably has all of them in his pocket off the island...
I don't make monkeys by therobcat	Feb 14th, 2008 10:00:42 PM
I just train 'em
Oh, I see by Spiny Norman	Feb 14th, 2008 10:01:12 PM
Thanks Burger. I guess I missed Harold in the credits all season. I have to say, every Sayid featured ep is a guaranteed home run for me.
I will glock the shit out of you, bitch. by 'Cholera's Ghost	Feb 14th, 2008 10:01:50 PM
Yeah. Yeah, I like it.
Sick Fixx! by esque	Feb 14th, 2008 10:03:27 PM
Ah, good day, sir! Sorry it took so long to respond; I just reached my favorite part of The Stranger and had to rub one out real quick. I'm sure you sympathize. Now, before I begin highlighting the parts of this week's Economist with which I disagree -- that is, if I have time after rereading Sodome et Gomorrhe, a book I have read, consisting largely of impressively difficult French words, which I enjoy reading -- I want to lend you my support. I too find the characters on Lost as developed as they can possibly be, with no further hidden interesting facets. The Island is time-shifted? Sayid works for Ben? Pshaw. I saw those coming weeks ago. I know we both want some more interesting reveals to satiate our big brains. Until that time, I will watch Lost only in protest, not enjoyment. This I do in solidarity with you, my friend. Be strong.
Hey, I get pissed off penty watching this show! by GQtaste	Feb 14th, 2008 10:04:24 PM
I dig the show and look forward to it. But enough w/ the constant cock teases.
Sick Fixx by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Feb 14th, 2008 10:04:37 PM
"I dare to think against the cult of Lost is genius etc.," Get over yourself you iconoclastic asshole.
esque by therobcat	Feb 14th, 2008 10:04:50 PM
heh heh heh
I really shouldn't, but... by SuperBurgerBat	Feb 14th, 2008 10:06:29 PM
See, the thing is, this really isn't the place to discuss the artistic fortitude and merit of Lost and its place in the Pantheon of Culture, Sick. Furthermore, no one really cares that you don't enjoy Lost, and no one participates in these talkbacks for that kind of conversation. We're all pretty much fans. But, fuck, I shouldn't feed the trolls. But I do. Hook, line, and sinker.
The deal between Ben and Sayid by DougMcKenzie	Feb 14th, 2008 10:07:01 PM
Was not struck in the future but in that room tonight. Ben convinced him that even if they got off that island that they would never reach civilization. That fake plane shows the people behind the the new foursome are malicious even if those individual four are not. Also 3 of the four are regular credited but Fahey is still only a guest, which makes me think that he gets iced soon. Makes sense as he knew that crash was faked... what better way to shut him up then killing him.
by therobcat	Feb 14th, 2008 10:08:22 PM

Esque, WHAT CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT!? by Sick Fixx	Feb 14th, 2008 10:08:39 PM
Hurley was persuaded by Locke into betraying Sayid. But will he be any different for it next week? A BIG NO on that. Character development, at least to me, indicates that people will act differently and be shaped by the experiences of their development, not act the same the next week, sitcom style. Hate it all you want, but Prison Break is constantly moving on and doing so intelligently without talking down to its audience. And that's the truth. I guess I'm just used to Prison Break being like a good lay with foreplay, the act itself and the climax. Lost is like the girlfriend who makes you hold out forever until you're a quivering mess of sexual frustration, then finally gives it up to you, but very very rarely, and she makes you regret it for a long time afterwards.
SuperBurgerBat by esque	Feb 14th, 2008 10:09:36 PM
Nothing wrong with feeding the trolls if they're entertaining. Heck, now I'm psyched for a Thundercats movie this summer! The rest of the New Millennium Youth will probably love it as well. Now, if you don't mind, I seem to have pooped my pants.
Fahey by therobcat	Feb 14th, 2008 10:11:16 PM
I had that same thought, Doug, but I hope it isn't true. He's bringing a different sort of energy to the show and I'm really digging him and Davies in particular.
You people just don't give up. by Sick Fixx	Feb 14th, 2008 10:11:39 PM
First, you say I have a short attention span and can't adequately enjoy the show. I refute this and outline why it can't be so. Then, you nag the shit out of me because I read highbrow stuff. Well, I read Goosebumps books too. When I was in fifth grade. That make ya feel better?
People need to read... by jccalhoun	Feb 14th, 2008 10:13:14 PM
I can't believe how often people post long links on here and don't understand why they don't work. It says right below the text box "If you are going to post a URL in your comment, please go to TinyUrl.com and reduce the size so it doesn't stretch out the TalkBack screen." Regarding Torchwood losing a character. In an episode that was all about something that could cure any ailment you really think that someone who is shot is going to stay dead? Some nice moments in tonight's episode of Lost. I wish that they would include some flashbacks this season instead of solely flashforwards. As in last season's cliffhanger episode, that would make it a lot more difficult to tell if a scene we were seeing was taking place before or after the plane crash.
Prison Break? by therobcat	Feb 14th, 2008 10:13:25 PM
Jeasus titty fucking christ. Ok. I simply don't have any more wise ass energy. Congrats, S.F. I'm going to bed
Goosebumps movie?!? by SuperBurgerBat	Feb 14th, 2008 10:14:11 PM
Come on Sick. You know it sounds good.
Only a little. by Sick Fixx	Feb 14th, 2008 10:16:05 PM

Dead Souls > Lost by Sick Fixx	Feb 14th, 2008 10:16:28 PM

The day before yesterday, by Sick Fixx	Feb 14th, 2008 10:17:14 PM
it was The Dwarf > Lost
And tomorrow, it will be by Sick Fixx	Feb 14th, 2008 10:17:33 PM
The Walrus was Paul > Lost
Lost's new pace... by SuperBurgerBat	Feb 14th, 2008 10:19:14 PM
I do kind of worried that Lost's pace is kinda picking up too much steam, if that's fathomable. I know this show cock-teased for a long time, but now it sometimes seems like a totally different show. Yet still awesome, somehow. Tonight was almost like some Al-Jazeera James Bond till Ben tied it all back to the island. Maybe this episode felt different because they LEFT THE FUCKING ISLAND. I just don't know...
Always remember this: by br1947	Feb 14th, 2008 10:21:38 PM
http://tinyurl.com/38xs2z
Sick Fixx by esque	Feb 14th, 2008 10:23:34 PM
Character development can work in a number of ways. One of which, of course, is that something happens to them to cause a change, which manifests itself in their actions going forward. But Lost kindly gives us at least two others. We get flashbacks, revealing the hidden pasts of these characters, with which we can reexamine the actions we've already witnessed. The actions haven't changed, but our perspective has, which serves to change the characters themselves. And now we also have flashforwards, showing us how heretofore unseen incidents have affected the characters. Again, this changes how we view the characters in the subjective present, as well as how we interpret their future behavior. How did these occur in this episode? Well, Hurley's behavior reinforces what we've seen of him in his flashforward. We're given a hint of what causes his regret. Ben is revealed as a survivor and a world traveler, which brings into question not only his current behavior and how he'll escape the Island, but also his past behavior and desperation for a spinal surgeon. As for Sayid, we see that his arc is not as simple as we've been lead to believe. He was looking for redemption, for peace, for penance. We know now that his future instead brings a regression, which colors how we perceive his experiences going forward. And we don't even need to stretch to find these examples. They're clear and present, partly because the storytelling framework has been set up so carefully. If you don't like it, that's fine, but I don't see why you would watch. And I certainly don't understand the lauding of Prison Break, a show I enjoy, but which is nowhere near as rewarding. PB hasn't given us a surprise all season (no, not even Sarah's decapitation. If anything, the shock was due to the method, not the event) and proceeds at a snail's pace.
br1947 by esque	Feb 14th, 2008 10:27:05 PM
Why the hell aren't we supposed to give turkeys to leprechauns?
But we already knew Sayid wants redemption by Sick Fixx	Feb 14th, 2008 10:29:07 PM
from the flashback where he is tortured by the vengeful husband. Hell, that's all anybody is really after on the island is redemption. And that would be fine if I believed that the writers did that intentionally. But I don't think they even realize the redemption connection between all the Islanders. There are a lot of things that have slipped out of their grasp, these writers. I truly believe that they have lost control of their show. Look at how quickly they abandoned Nikki and Paulo when they realized the characters weren't working. If those characters were not shown in the first season or at any point when we were familiarizing ourselves with the survivors of the crash, then there was no reason to introduce them later with the explanation that they've been there all along unless they were Others. Period.
I dunno, something some old chinese guy said... by br1947	Feb 14th, 2008 10:32:44 PM
something about not after midnight and don't get them wet... i dunno. :-)
That ain't no troll by Sick Fixx	Feb 14th, 2008 10:35:53 PM
That's a leprechaun. Trolls are big, fierce and go where they please. And they can't go out in the daylight or they'll turn to stone. THAT'S a troll.
Okay, so they go where they please by Sick Fixx	Feb 14th, 2008 10:36:25 PM
EXCEPT the daylight.
Farmer's Almanac 2008 > Lost by Sick Fixx	Feb 14th, 2008 10:36:53 PM
Damn you people. Why did you make me do that???
Sick Fixx by esque	Feb 14th, 2008 10:38:22 PM
Yes, we already knew Sayid wanted redemption, but now we know that it's not in his future, at least not for a long while. It's a doomed quest, and it should change how we see him going forward. Despite being tortured, despite Shannon, despite Nadia, he still regresses. But we don't know why or when it begins. Half of his arc still needs to be filled in, and there are a lot of interesting possibilities. Nikki and Paulo were a mistake, but I enjoyed their ... disposal.
Bai Ling arrested! by skywalkerfamily	Feb 14th, 2008 10:40:03 PM
She was shoplifting batteries and magazines. She was Jack's love interest in that one awful Lost episode.
Sick Fixx by maxwell's hammer	Feb 14th, 2008 10:41:12 PM
Hey, I read Gogol AND watch LOST, which makes me doubly better than everyone as ol Sicky. And Sicky, I don't think people are calling you a douchebag because you're well read. They're calling you a douchebag because you're name-dropping to convice us of how much more culturally literate you are than the rest of us. And did you seriously compare Prison Break with LOST?
Bai Ling by esque	Feb 14th, 2008 10:41:34 PM
Are we sure they were batteries and not just her nipples? There's a remarkable similarity.
Sayid in coffin? by lordgrimplemort	Feb 14th, 2008 10:42:38 PM
Now that we know Sayid is Ben's personal hitman, could it be that he was in the coffin. That would explain why none of the Oceanic 6 wanted to go to his funeral--except Jack, who may be thinking Ben was right by that point. It seems like Sayid's gone back to his pre-island ways. They're going to keep switching the character's personalities and ethics/morals right up to the end. You get to liking a person and then they turn out to be pretty unlikeable or vice versa. One thing I'm pretty sure of---Miles is an asshole no matter what his motives are. Others could go either way depending on what they've been led to believe by the Lockes and Bens and Dharmas of the world, but Miles is just a pure douchebag all the way.
Hey Sick Fixx . . . Part II by Spacejockey426	Feb 14th, 2008 10:43:18 PM
Ok, alright - you are entitled to your view, fair enough. I maintain my puzzle analogy, and add that some pieces are larger and more colorful than others - but all are necessary to the picture as a whole. Let me ask you then - if you were a producer of the show, how would you tell the story - what changes would you make that would make the show as good as Prison Break (which I agree is good stuff)?
Sick.... by seanny_d	Feb 14th, 2008 10:43:50 PM
I fully respect your opinion, but Lindelof said explicitly last year that the show is "not about the island" and that these are people who are metaphorically Lost in their lives as well and are looking for redemption. So to say that it's not intentional would be erroneous. As for your other opinions, I'd have to say that I respectfully disagree. I'm rather torn myself with these last couple of episodes because it's just so different than anything the show has given us before. And I have to say, the most shocking part of the episode is when Sayid got shot, and not the Ben reveal at the end. But your Nikki and Paulo argument doesn't hold up very well because the writers heard people saying "well, what about all the other people who are on the island who aren't part of the A-team?" So those two were introduced to kind of give voice to that subset of the population. Unfortunately, it didn't work out and they realized that the main focus should be on the survivors. I sincerely believe that there is a plan for this show, if only in plot. There is still opportunity to make changes in characters along the way, but the plot is essentially set.
Maybe the "Oceanic 6" are not 6 by Piltdown Joey	Feb 14th, 2008 10:46:10 PM
There may be 6 people who are the Oceanic 6, but there may be more survivors and/or returnees. Just like the "9/11 Widows." There's plenty of widows (thanks to our towel headed 7th century throwback co-inhabitants of this little planet), but there's only a "select" few of them who are merry widows and are known as "9/11 widows." So, we shouldn't limit the returnees and/or survivors to six. Personally, I think Rose and Locke will definitely stay behind to keep themselves healed, and Bernard will stay with Rose. Claire and Aaron will probably have to stay behind, since they probably did something to her while she was kidnapped to make her survive childbirth on the island. Haven't thought it through any further.
Nikki & Paulo by maxwell's hammer	Feb 14th, 2008 10:50:16 PM
Those two are the exact reason why its great that the show is now destined to end at the end of season 6. Before the contract with ABC was struck, Cuse and Lindeloff were in the awkward position of dragging the show out indefinitely, not knowing when their finite idea for the show would end. That's why we got filler episodes and new characters like Nikki & Paulo (who apparently had a longer story originally planned for them, but got cut short when the audience hated them so damn much). With diversions like these unnecessary thanks to the new finite, three season contract, I think we'll be buzzing right along to the end. Oh, and Sick Fixx knows who Ernest Hemingway is and all about Japanese Surrealism. I just thought you all might want to know.
Dean Moriarty by esque	Feb 14th, 2008 11:00:07 PM
To all the literates out there, you should be interested to know that Ben's alias on the Swiss passport is Dean Moriarty.
I'm 6 minutes in by geraldbeans	Feb 14th, 2008 11:06:57 PM
This might be the greatest show ever. WHY CAN'T EVERY EPISODE BE LIKE THIS???
Ben will turn out to be a good guy... by JackIsLost	Feb 14th, 2008 11:11:45 PM
Or at least to have good intentions, even if he does stuff the wrong way. Make no mistake, if his character ultimately ends up being an out and out villain, it will be a huge disappointment. And if I could just add, even though I am loving this season, it does feel like we have abandoned the Dharma Initiative mystery for sake of the "What happens once they leave" mystery... but maybe it just seems that way b/c we don't have all the pieces of the puzzle yet. I must admit the introduction of flash-forwards is making things pretty frustrating in the near-term, even though I am pretty confident that it will greatly expand the scope and depth of the show in the long run.
. by Sick Fixx	Feb 14th, 2008 11:13:04 PM
I've never considered how I would tell the story of Lost that remains. I do know this. I would make an amputee Locke the person in the casket. It would be the ultimate irony that Jack and Locke were the ones that divided the Island and Jack, the less clingy to his ways of the two, would come to regret his choice even if it was the right one. I would want some light shed on the Jacob mystery, and make it a focal point of the rest of the season. I would draw from the best of the Lost fan theories, because the theories are ultimately more entertaining than most of what Carlton and Damon put out there. I like the Garden of Eden theory as far as what the island is. The skeletons would in fact be Adam and Eve, the original humans, though how this would be deduced, I'm not sure. I would write Cerberus, the Smoke Monster, out of the show. Have someone actually get the best of it, like Locke or Desmond, or have Ben disable it if it's in fact some sort of security program. This would increase the activity of the Whispers and they would start physically manifesting on the island more than they have been, i.e. the horse, Ben's mother. Miles would be so occupied with speaking to the Whispers/Voices, which are all over, that he would miss boarding and returning to America. He would stay behind on the island with the explanation that the Freighties were in a rush due to some conflict with Locke's people. Locke would be arrested for Naomi's murder and forced to go back to civilization with Jack, Kate, Sayid, Ben and whomever else makes it. As soon as he left the island, he would lose his ability to walk again, further demonstrating the island's magnificent healing properties. Faraday would be shot as the Freighties are trying to figure out who the mole is. Evidence would build toward the assumption that he was the mole, though they would soon find out he is not. The four toed statue would be explained as a civilization prior to the Others' attempt at building their own Statue of Liberty. Their project would never be finished due to the encroaching of Dharma into their territory. Marvin Candle would manifest from the Whispers to Juliet and Hurley, out gathering firewood for the coming nightfall. Juliet would recognize Candle right away, saying that he's dead. Candle would warn Hurley and Juliet to ignore the lies of the Orientation videos. He would then disappear. Hurley would ask Juliet how he could be dead if he was right there. Juliet would say that she knows he's dead, because she killed him herself. Miles, secluded away from everyone and following the directions of the Whispers across the jungle, stumbles onto a new hatch, one that runs underground, called The Portal. The Portal has instructional documents detailing what to do in the event that The Swan is destroyed. Miles watches The Portal's Orientation video and, shockingly, sees himself far, far off in the background across a hallway from where Marvin Candle is speaking in the film. This plays on Miles' nerves and he begins to think himself the Chosen One of the Whispers. He connects the dots as far as the island being out of flux, the numbers not being pushed, the Swan being destroyed, the purple sky resulting from such and, for the sake of the Whispers, destroys the Orientation film as well as the contingency plan documents that would set things right for the main group of 815 survivors. That's all I have right now. I'm not big on fan fiction. Damon and Carlton should be making the show this entertaining for us. It isn't my job. But, like someone else quoted McMurphy a few talkbacks ago, 'At least I tried, didn't I?'
I am also betting that Sayid's gf's boss... by JackIsLost	Feb 14th, 2008 11:14:59 PM
will turn out to be the scary black guy from "The Wire".
GOOD.. by gotilk	Feb 14th, 2008 11:16:22 PM
Great last line. Delivered masterfully.
DHARMA mystery by maxwell's hammer	Feb 14th, 2008 11:18:30 PM
What exactly is the Dharma mystery? I thought that was pretty succinctly explained last season. They were a bunch of idealistic social scientists who took over the island to conduct various social experiments and the strange properties of the island. During their stint on the island, the island's native inhabitants decided to get rid of them. So the Dharma people are all gone, and all their shit (hatches and barracks and animal research facilities) is left behind. I think the mystery now is who are the original inhabitants, why is Ben so special to them, and who are the people on the freighter looking for the island. Now, I'm sure other Dharma stuff will come up (like how are they connected to Hanso and the freighter people and Widmore), but I think Dharma itself has been pretty much demystified.
Bai Ling by gotilk	Feb 14th, 2008 11:20:25 PM
Batteries. Know why? Because they take a licking but keep on ticking. Oh jeebus that was cheap. BRB, need a shower.
The mystery is... by JackIsLost	Feb 14th, 2008 11:20:53 PM
what the hell brought Dharma to the island in the first place... I guess that mystery is still in play. Hell, it's the whole show. It's just that the show is so complicated already, that when it introduces new characters/mysteries, I worry it might spin out of control... (but I'm not that worried)
If the show isn't about the island by Sick Fixx	Feb 14th, 2008 11:21:45 PM
but about the characters' journeys to redemption, then they shouldn't have put them on the island in the pilot.
What about Sayid's lover? by skywalkerfamily	Feb 14th, 2008 11:22:13 PM
Did he ever find her again?
Sick Fixx's version of LOST by maxwell's hammer	Feb 14th, 2008 11:22:28 PM
I can't tell if he's joking or not. For all you LOST haters, at least Sick Fixx isn't writing the fucking who. As is evidenced by his plot ideas, LOST could be a hell of a lot worse.
gotlik, it was a good last line... by JackIsLost	Feb 14th, 2008 11:22:30 PM
(no pun intended) but the absolute best last line for any episode of Lost was Ben's (then Henry Gale) "Got any milk?"
Spoilers by Prior Walter	Feb 14th, 2008 11:23:39 PM
So Jin and Sun are the other 6. Michael is Ben's man on the boat. And I'm guessing it's episode 7 that ends with Clair being thrown from a helicopter to her death, which is why Kate is raising Aaron. Question: who's in the coffin, Ben or Michael?
NOTHING HAPPENED? by SkidMarkedUndies	Feb 14th, 2008 11:23:58 PM
We learned Sayid is one of the Oceanic Six. We learned that Hurley is in over his head. Faraday confirmed a rumor going around the internet: TIME DILATION FIELD. And lastly, we find out Ben SURVIVES and LEAVES the Island. That's alot of info.
And I still say Rose is in the coffin... by JackIsLost	Feb 14th, 2008 11:24:34 PM

This is the first time I've ever thought about by Sick Fixx	Feb 14th, 2008 11:28:00 PM
what I'd do with the show. Someone asked what I would do, and I answered. I think it was a valiant attempt, but it's not my job to make Lost entertaining. It's the job of the people who are failing at it. Carlton and Damon thought calling the Dharma shark 'Ezra Sharkington' was the funniest thing in the world during one of thei

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