remember how great the cliffhangers were in season 1? they'd show you something that blew your mind, then make you wait for a week and let it marinate, arguing about it with friends and AICN acquaintances until it was answered? THAT IS WHAT MADE THE FIRST SEASON GREAT!

then in the second season, anytime they dropped a bomb on you, they would RESOLVE IT 3 MINUTES LATER!! let that shit marinate?

I fully believe that was all Fuller. he went away, and the whole thing lost it's touches that made it a step above the rest.

also kudos to me for spelling 'acquaintances' properly?

Heroes second season is like a blowjob from your girlfriend when she's drunk. it might not be as good as it was previously, but it's still a goddamn blowjob, and there's always the hope that she'll be sober for the next one.

sorry for being crude, Ororo...

and Heroes season 2 was nowhere near as good as the first season, sure. but it suffered from a rushed schedule because of the strike, the loss of Fuller, and huge expectations. it was still better than 95% of what you see on television. American gladiators? the real world? Lost?

you have the right to talk about how it went downhill, but it didn't suck, and the hate is unwarranted.

unfortunately nothing is more predictable than the speed at which fanboys turn on their beloveds, if they think it will score them some cool points.

Put it this way, someone that sucks at bowling, might get a few beers in them and do better, yeah? but you take the cream of the PBA crop, and get them sloppy drunk, and their 250 average is gonna go right out the window.

love, BadMrWonka, semi-pro bowler, Mensa member, professional analogy enthusiast

This talkback is already my favorite of the week.

after a while, even though Lost doesn't bring you joy, you still watch it. You have a compulsion to watch it every week no matter what. As your enjoyment decreases, your compulsion grows.

eventually, your lips are chalky and you suck dick on the streets for Lost.

or Desperate Sex with Housewives in the City

but I think you might not have had the pleasure of coming across (pun intended) a woman that truly loves to give oral sex. I don't mean "doesn't mind it", I mean, gets off on it. then it is like a sport, and like any athlete, it is inhibited by the depressant which is alcohol.

and lest anyone think I am being a chauvinistic pig, I freely admit that I my oral prowess is similarly and significantly decreased when I am drunk. the oral door swing both ways.

shit, wait...I don't really listen to eithe rthe beatles of the stones, and I like saving private ryan AND the thin red line. and no one in their right mind denies Kylie her throne as pop queen, when Britney can't even put her pants on properly...

never mind, I relinquish my analogy crown.

that just doesn't sit well with me. smoke monsters aside...

oh, and shame about the short season.

Are both THE shit, and are both SHIT at the same time.

Lost has been getting increasingly annoying for ages now and it is about time they answered some questions. The dialogue between people in the know and Jack et al is pathetic, they should either answer questions or not have the characters in the position to ask but have them say things like "how did you get here?" fuckers.

Heroes made some serious mistakes in Season 2 but didn't Kring apologise for that and admit he had the thought of what the audience wanted wrong? Even at it's shittest it is still better than 99% of the junk on TV, with any luck this long break will make it better in season 3.

More of both shows is

no joke, no sarcasm, that's a tight line, and pretty much true.

and you're right about your observations of Lost and Heroes...especially the part where you reiterated what I wrote earlier (not getting on your case, just fluffing my own pillow)

consequently, I agree with your assessment that Heroes is much better than Lost...

Of course, I was one of the people who preferred the first half of the second season and didn't understand what all the whining was about (love Parkman's dad), but the end was just Blech.

How to fix season 3: well, honestly, just learn your lessons, and unleash Mama Petrelli. What could be finer?

I vote for (and I know this will not be popular) Cheerverine.

The important thing to remember is not to eat anything like chips or nuts beforehand.

It's very bad to gag up sharp jagged bits of stuff that could cause injury...

There was some goodness in Season 2: Matt's growing powers. "You're evil, Ma". Murray the K, and the Parkman/Nathan fight. HRG in badass mode. "You have opened Pandora's Box."

But the bad definitely outweighed the good, and there's little chance I'll buy the second season on DVD.

The more powers Sylar acquires, the weaker each of the ones he's already acquired become, and the more insane he becomes (it affects his brain and mental state). With Peter, the writers could make it where Peter discovers he can't hold onto a limitless number of powers -- when he becomes "all filled up" with powers, the next power he acquires causes one that he already has to go away. As for Hiro, the writers could have written things where no matter how much Hiro tries to alter things, some things (such as saving his dad's life) cannot be changed -- this would suggest that Destiny or Fate itself cannot be altered.

Ultimately, the problem with Heroes isn't that they've made certain characters too power -- the real core problem is that the writers just are not imaginative enough.

But I think the real problem is Mr. Kring, who is the one in charge of the direction of the show's main arcs. Throughout Season 2, I got the sense that the writers of individual episodes were not entirely knowledgeable of events and character developments that were to occur in episodes prior or after the one that they were writing. This would explain why there were so many continuity errors.

For example: Why didn't Peter just phase himself and Adam through the bank vault door? We already saw in a prior episode that Peter phased himself and Adam through the walls of their cell at The Company. Well, the answer may be that two different writers wrote these two episodes. (I don't know -- I haven't checked if the writers for the two episodes in question are different.) The writer who wrote the finale may not have known exactly how Peter and Adam escaped from The Company.

Hey, they were cheap.

I haven't heard back from them. Maybe it's my email...

*rolleyes at Jeff Silverman*

all this hate for Heroes, when on its worst day it's better than most of what's out there.

if you're one of those assholes that says, "finally, we'll get rid of this shit" rather than "here's what's wrong, let's fix it" you ought to ask yourself, why are you so angry and mean?

is it a little pecker? Barack Obama's momentum? still stinging from X3? or maybe just the realization that Lost is stringing you along like a bad boyfriend?

face it, he's just not that into you.

See, I referenced my dislike of season two (so I can fall into a generalized perception of fanboys), threw in a sports reference for those here who actually follow sports (Jets & Mets were inferred here in this case), and blowjobs to tie into the discussion from above.

Oh, and let's go goons!

But what gets me even more riled up is the cancellation of Journeyman. Grrr.....

(too bad they didn't take him up on that...)

I haven't been paying attention...

Prof, it would have been nice if that had made brokeback stop typing in caps. Couldn't you have gotten him to stop that anchorite as part of your "cease fire"?

And the duel in the future wasn't the main focus of that episode anyway, so that was no big deal for me.

http://tinyurl.com/3yczk5

... even if BSB still writes in all caps!

... where is BSB anyway? Probably still celebrating Shia LaBeouf's Bafta win...

All in good fun.

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"and Heroes season 2 was nowhere near as good as the first season, sure. but it suffered from a rushed schedule because of the strike, the loss of Fuller, and huge expectations."

I understand that season 2 wasn't as good, and if you were to go back to the talkbacks for each episode, I was LIVID at how far it had fallen.

I wasn't taking issue with constructive criticism of the show, I just took issue with the idiots yammering "who carez, heroes sux!!" and shit like that. THAT is done just to be cool and hear one's own voice. and, as I said before, is what I was referring to.

make sure you know what's going on before you call someone out.

oh, and congrats on your "most pretentious guy in the talkback award" for writing "Next." at the end of your misguided rant.

basically, thanks for being a fucking idiot to help prove my point. here's to you!