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Tentative Agreement Could End Writer's Strike By Monday!!!

I for one welcome our new screenwriter overlords by IndustryKiller!	Feb 9th, 2008 03:42:56 PM
And Hallelujah
wow by red ezra	Feb 9th, 2008 03:43:20 PM
kick ass
The Oscars... by Tarantinoholic	Feb 9th, 2008 03:45:07 PM
are on the 24th, Harry. Not next Sunday. Get on the ball, sir!
What does this really mean though? by Jor-El23	Feb 9th, 2008 03:46:56 PM
Will TV shows go back into production ASAP? Will we get the final 8 episodes of Lost season 4? Will the short window of time for the pilot season mean some new shows from the 2007/2008 season will get a better shot of coming back next year? I can't imagine everything remaining shut down until filming for the fall season starts this summer. that's still so much time that all these people, from writers to crew and actors, are out of work.
Silly strike. Good to see it end. by Kragmose	Feb 9th, 2008 03:49:49 PM

stop typing- like this.... harry- by Bob C. Cock	Feb 9th, 2008 03:50:17 PM
it's distracting.
I wonder & I hope... by moviemaniac-7	Feb 9th, 2008 03:52:01 PM
All these writers, when not picketing, sitting at home writing some awesome scripts on spec? Will it be like that? I hope so. Won't watch the Oscars since I think it's a travesty - a backslapping-hey-aren't-we-nea t kinda thing I can live without ever since Titanic won over either Boogie Nights and LA Confidential.
whew by mrwho	Feb 9th, 2008 03:53:39 PM
finally. Now hopefully some TV seasons can be salvaged, like Lost, House, heroes, the office, etc
Would you really miss an Oscar show? by Mullah Omar	Feb 9th, 2008 03:53:41 PM
Regarding the Oscars, what is more important to the film fans here - the spectacle, or the substance? I can happily live the rest of my days without seeing another awards show.
When will our shows be back? by Dot calm	Feb 9th, 2008 03:54:44 PM
Do we have to wait 'til next fall and will any of the new shows be back or did all of the contracts expire during the strike?
God I hate unions... by JackIsLost	Feb 9th, 2008 03:58:40 PM
That's all.
What's funny is that Stephen Colbert continues... by JackIsLost	Feb 9th, 2008 03:59:56 PM
to be as funny as ever without his writers. Similarly, Jon Stewart continues to be as obnoxious and lame (and unfunny) as ever...
This could be good news. by Knuckleduster	Feb 9th, 2008 04:01:09 PM
Everyone wants to see this mess over and done with. I just hope they're not rushing into something they might end up regretting. Writers have been fucked over too many times in this business. If you're gonna make a stand, make it count.
Does that Harry can stop feeling guilty about linking by chrth	Feb 9th, 2008 04:03:27 PM
to Amazon DVDs during the strike (since, of course, any you purchase go at pre-agreement royalty levels). Of course, that presumes he and Herc ever recognized the fact that they were hypocrites to continue linking during the strike.
Um... by Tourist	Feb 9th, 2008 04:04:54 PM
...It's cool that they are going back and all, and I like watching the Oscars...But could we get them to maybe never come back and write for Awards shows and Talk Shows? You know, because their contribution is fucking horrendous and useless? It's a shame they aren't permanantly out. It might have signaled a change to quality informative broadcasting, rather than horribly written dreck. Then again, it most likely would have been 101 variety shows like "So you think you can function as a reasonable human being outside of a welfare state?".
If there's one thing Colbert vs Conan taught us by chrth	Feb 9th, 2008 04:06:21 PM
Is that Jon Stewart is a horrific actor. No chops whatsoever. Colbert, of course, could out-act anybody (granted, it's the nature of his job, but nice to see it in action).
NO!!! MEANS JLA BACK ON TRACK! by messi	Feb 9th, 2008 04:07:12 PM
FUCK!!!!!!!!!
Colbert is a successful writer... by Tourist	Feb 9th, 2008 04:07:54 PM
...Unlike those losers on strike who need to force everyone to stop working so they can get an undeserved slice of the pie. Try working or being talented, you fucking hacks.
oh Tourist... by BadMrWonka	Feb 9th, 2008 04:08:03 PM
you so crazy! actually, are you really a little off? I mean in real life?
Force Majeure by Strabo	Feb 9th, 2008 04:08:06 PM
Force Majeure has freed everyone from any contracts they had with the studios for projects stopped due to the strike. So, in order to resume production on any stopped projects, the studios will have to renegotiate their contracts. While freed from their contracts, actors, directors, et al. may have secured other work on projects not affected by the strike. This may delay the resumption of production on the original project. bacci40, I'm not entirely familiar with the initial demands, but it looks to me like the writers have done pretty well with this deal. They got the AMPTP to agree that, amazingly enough, the writers actually deserve to get paid for their work when it appears on new media. It may not be at as high a level as they'd like, and the seventeen day window may be a little longer than they'd like, but it's a good start.
Glad it's over, for the crew's sake by I Dunno	Feb 9th, 2008 04:08:41 PM
You know, the people who actually work for a living and don't see dick in the way of residuals? The editors, the FX guys, the cinematographers, the lighting guys, make-up, wardrobe, all the way down to craft services go FUCKED because the writers somehow felt that they were more deserving of residuals than the people who make their stories happen. Not to mention the fact that this was the WORST-run strike in the history of communism will make it almost impossible for any other guild to strike again. Jimmy Hoffa in spinning in his shallow grave.
bacci40: Yes, and thank God the WGA brought us those things by chrth	Feb 9th, 2008 04:09:22 PM
Wait, they didn't? They were striking over royalty rates?!? That's one of the problems with the WGA. Since they're creative types, they think somehow their strike compares to the important strikes in history, ones that did bring about child labor laws and such. They want to be included in the canon of Chavez and others, but it's all a silly dream. They're acting out some sort of fantasy. And of course, now they'll blacklist those that worked during the strike, taking their cue from another historical event.
bacci by BadMrWonka	Feb 9th, 2008 04:09:47 PM
can you imagine if they had held they're ground and the Oscar's actually got fucked up? talk about steeling your resolve and bringing some real attention in. do you think they were too worried at the public backlash if the Oscars were derailed? I still think you're right that they had the mother of all bargaining chips with the Oscars, but they were too worried about public opinion turning for good if they held their ground.
They want the Oscars? The awards show where - by messi	Feb 9th, 2008 04:10:04 PM
Juno was nominated instead of Assassination of Jesse James or This is England. And Jason Reitman instead of Andrew Dominik? Ha. Who gives a shit, the only people who care are middle aged housewives who want to see the 'ohhh she's so beautiful' ladies in frocks, even though they will not even be able to remember what the fuck there will be blood is. Fuck you.
bacci40, i know you are being sarcastic... by JackIsLost	Feb 9th, 2008 04:10:44 PM
but that all sounds good to me. If you were running for office on that platform, you'd have my vote!
chrth by BadMrWonka	Feb 9th, 2008 04:11:55 PM
Bacci was responding to someone who said "fuck unions", by listing things that unions have brought us. he never likened this strike to those, he was just responding to a silly statement with a little reality.
The argument... by Strabo	Feb 9th, 2008 04:11:58 PM
...that the writers don't deserve to be paid because they're poor writers ignores the fact that the studios _demand_ low-brow insipid content. Arguing that if the writers didn't suck all content would be good ignores the fact that ninety percent of the population are idiots.
Wonka: I know by chrth	Feb 9th, 2008 04:13:13 PM
I just wanted to get that little rant out, because I seriously believe that's why the WGA always goes on strike and the DGA always negotiates a new contract without one: the former has their heads in the clouds.
Strabo: Let me guess, you're in the 10%? by chrth	Feb 9th, 2008 04:13:39 PM
Go read Wisdom of the Crowds, elitist.
These forums are atypical... by Strabo	Feb 9th, 2008 04:14:33 PM
...anecdotally, everyone I know supports the writers on this. And I live in one of the reddest parts of the country. The malcontents on the talkbacks decrying the strike are the dead-end 36%'ers who still think Bush is charismatic.
Strabo by BadMrWonka	Feb 9th, 2008 04:16:42 PM
or bitter that the cum-stained BSG script they sent in was never accepted... too far? did I go too far? my bad...
Hey, I sent in the script that was cum-free! by chrth	Feb 9th, 2008 04:17:40 PM
Wait, I'm not a writer, and don't care to be. HA! Go me, go me.
bacci40: the problem is no one knows what it's worth by chrth	Feb 9th, 2008 04:20:01 PM
Is it worth something? Yes. How much? No one knows. That's why the DGA specifically agreed to revisit the issue in three years. By then, the thinking goes, it'll be quantifiable, and fair negotiations can happen over the amount. The WGA didn't respond like that. Their position was 'the producers are making money off us on the Internet! give it to us!'
hypocrisy? by HEADGEEK	Feb 9th, 2008 04:26:16 PM
Well - residuals on DVD were part of what were paying the bills for Writers through the strike. It isn't like they weren't cashing their residual checks in protest.
bacci by BadMrWonka	Feb 9th, 2008 04:27:19 PM
er...I agree for the most part, and I'm as liberal as they come...but chrth isn't a wingnut...I don't even think he's a conservative, he's too smart for that. I think he just likes to get things riled up. and since Heroes isn't on right now, he has to find alternate venues for debate. come back Heroes!
bacci40: I think you have me wrong by chrth	Feb 9th, 2008 04:27:42 PM
I supported (and continue to support) real blue-collar unions. Chavez is one of my idols, and I have been accussed of communism in the past. It's the white-collar unions I have no time for, especially when said white-collar unions put good blue-collar non-unionized individuals out of work to fulfill their own labor uprising fantasies.
Thanks for responding Harry by chrth	Feb 9th, 2008 04:29:46 PM
So the followup question is: how much of a strike is it if you're still getting paid (via residuals) while striking? I said it before and I'll say it again: the purpose of the strike was so that the WGA members would collect a bigger check during their next one.
bacci40: It's a technology issue by chrth	Feb 9th, 2008 04:31:40 PM
They don't know what it's worth because there's an infrastructure that is required to maintain Internet content. Servers, networking equipment, leasing of bandwidth, workers to maintain all the above, etc. etc. I know this because this is my field, IT. TCO of IT is always problematic, as is ROI. The suits can't answer the question yet because they don't know what needs to support it.
chrth by Strabo	Feb 9th, 2008 04:33:42 PM
What's the appropriate level of destitution then for a union to be seen as appropriate in your eyes, and not just greedy? Just because the writers get paid more for their work than the craftsmen do doesn't mean they don't deserve the right to organize any less than the craftsmen. The writers live paycheck to paycheck too. They too spend months of the year looking for work. In some ways, the writers are even worse off. They could spend months working on a script only to have the project shelved, or never even purchased. A craftsman is guaranteed to get paid for his work.
Conan should stick to this new format by Lanceloco	Feb 9th, 2008 04:34:44 PM
he is flourishing without the writers!!!!
What about Leno though? by Jor-El23	Feb 9th, 2008 04:36:55 PM
He's not funny with writers or without writers.
You know what really sucks? by mukhtabi	Feb 9th, 2008 04:39:51 PM
When your a new person coming out fresh to hollywood, you get a job writing a script - that means you might actually get into the WGA - and then the strike happens, and the film script does NOT get funded so you have no way to enter the guild. So no money, no work, and your scrambling to find some basic job to keep soul and body together. That's what really sucks!
If you have a milkshake and I have a milkshake... by JackIsLost	Feb 9th, 2008 04:43:33 PM
And I have a straw--there it is. And my straw reaches acccrrroooossss the room and starts to drink your milkshake...I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE! I DRINK IT UP!!!
Yeah! More Sex in the City rip off pilots! by skywalkerfamily	Feb 9th, 2008 04:50:28 PM
Get cracking writers!
If you watch television/movies that you think are good by TerryMalloy	Feb 9th, 2008 04:56:48 PM
I don't know if you know this, but it was written by what we call "writers". These "writers" write the good stuff and the bad stuff that we see. So let's be thankful that the good writers are back. Yes?
Will production resume... by jimmy rabbitte	Feb 9th, 2008 05:00:24 PM
on new episodes for this season? Doesn't the regular production hiatus usually begin in March? It would be nice to know if we'll get the full 16 on this year's LOST; and the full season of 24.
chrth by HEADGEEK	Feb 9th, 2008 05:06:32 PM
Well - how much of a strike is it? Well - for working writers that don't have an extended body of work - they can't live on those residuals. I know writers that during the strike - have taken to writing educational children's books - that pay next to nothing. I know writers that have started working as anything they can get - because they aren't getting their regular check. And I know a lot of people that lost the equity in their home, trying to refinance to get the money to live on during the strike hoping that when the strike is over - they're rehired, though there's no guarantee the job will be there when they come back. For people like you and me - our shows get canceled and we go about our regular lives - but this wasn't easy for 99% of the Guild members. That uppermost 1% - the lottery winners. The writers with 8 zeroes in their bank accounts - that used amazing luck and talent to invest wisely... those guys - they don't need any of the stuff the Guild offers... this strike wasn't about them - it's about guys working on all those infinite amount programs we watch. Names, you never recognize - but they are there... and they're praying to get back to work - but only with a deal that has their future in mind.
How's about another American Revolution? by Han Cholo	Feb 9th, 2008 05:08:57 PM
Seriously, we can call it: American Revolution 2 - Electric Boogaloo. It will be a great event where people unhappy with our government take charge and oust the people responsible for heavy taxes, high gas prices, The Patriot Act, George W Bush, and all the other injustices that hide behind the illusion of freedom in this country.
You honestly think they didn't write a single line when on strik by SpencerTrilby	Feb 9th, 2008 05:19:30 PM
In case, see, the strike ends sooner than expected and writers need pre-written stuff to come back on track for, say, the fucking OSCARS? How naive of you. Need I say that Spurlock didn't find Osama, either??? On the other hand, an Oscar bash based on improv couldn't be more vapid and unfunny than the last 10 years' ceremonies. Poor Jon Stewart.
Too bad, Conan was funnier without writers by theredtoad	Feb 9th, 2008 05:20:37 PM
At least we'll get the rest of Lost, and no more fagtarded reality shows ("My Dad Is Better Than Your Dad" I'm looking at you).
hancholo by theredtoad	Feb 9th, 2008 05:22:05 PM
I think people would use a revolution for their own gains. It would turn into mass riots and looting and violence...oh wait that's what you're calling for. Right?
Oscars = WHO GIVES A SHIT? by Judge Briggs	Feb 9th, 2008 05:22:30 PM
Seriously, it's just a fucking kiss ass telethon... great idea, lets reward actors with more ego-maniac attention ... actors are just people doing their jobs... there are WAYYY more important jobs in life than these ego-maniacs.
Harry writes like Shatner speaks by Mullah Omar	Feb 9th, 2008 05:22:43 PM
"For people like you and me - our shows get canceled and we go about our regular lives - but this wasn't easy for 99% of the Guild members. That uppermost 1% - the lottery winners. The writers with 8 zeroes in their bank accounts - that used amazing luck and talent to invest wisely... those guys - they don't need any of the stuff the Guild offers... this strike wasn't about them - it's about guys working on all those infinite amount programs we watch. Names, you never recognize - but they are there... and they're praying to get back to work - but only with a deal that has their future in mind." Must . . . make . . . random . . . pauses.
does this mean the JLA movie is back on track? by Argentino	Feb 9th, 2008 05:25:39 PM
That's great news. Yes, I'm serious, you know you want to watch that movie. I've been waiting for it my whole life and I trust George Miller.
get the actors off the picket line by rainbowtrout1265	Feb 9th, 2008 05:30:08 PM
actually, i think the millionaire actors/actresses have hurt the writers cause by trying to get face-time on the picket line. and it's really easy to root against the writers when Michael Moore is dragging his fat ass along, too.
What about American Gladiators! by skywalkerfamily	Feb 9th, 2008 05:30:11 PM
What happens to those poor wrestlers.
ust the people responsible for heavy taxes, high gas prices, The by rainbowtrout1265	Feb 9th, 2008 05:33:14 PM
I'll go along with getting rid of heavy taxes, high gas prices and Bush, but keep the Patriot Act. If someone will lower my taxes, they've got my vote.
"and thank god the oscars"... ? by TheSeeker7	Feb 9th, 2008 05:34:48 PM
Seriously, Harry? Man usually I'm on your side with stuff, but you gotta get your priorities straight. When seemingly your biggest sigh of relief comes from the fact that you'll get a typical old fashioned version of an awards show... yikes.
I can't wait for that ten minute Heath Ledger by skywalkerfamily	Feb 9th, 2008 05:36:40 PM
clip they'll show at the Oscars!
I SUPPORTED THE WRITERS ON THIS ONE. by Pound Sand	Feb 9th, 2008 05:37:33 PM
glad it might be over.
a couple of things by Bloo	Feb 9th, 2008 05:39:08 PM
I asked in the last LOST tb if the strike ended this weekend what the result would be, I was informed that most TV shows work on 4 weeks ahead, so we should get most of the season, I don't know about HEROS, unless the writers have been writing in their off hours. re:Colbert, Stewart, Conan, I don't know if they can say this or not, but could they make they argument that it was improved. That they gave thier producers a general idea so that the editors, etc could get it ready, and then they justed improved the remaining
Describing successful people as lottery winners... by JackIsLost	Feb 9th, 2008 05:39:40 PM
Those who can ride out such silly strikes without having to trick themselves, those who have built themselves up through hard work and talent... to equate them to nothing more than dumbfuck lucky lottery winners... well, that is just what I would expect from a scum-sucking douchebag piece of shit like Harry. Doesn't surprise me a bit. That's all...
Conan has writers? by skywalkerfamily	Feb 9th, 2008 05:40:47 PM
It was sad watching Conan twirl is ring on his desk for an hour. But, he got paid millions to do it.
Yes Hypocrite by Funketeer	Feb 9th, 2008 05:43:24 PM
Wasn't the whole point of the strike that they WEREN'T getting residuals for DVD and Internet? I'm thinking you got paid more off those links than any of the writers did. But then, you're a producer aren't you?
"I'm broke, bitch!" that is why. by snakecharmer	Feb 9th, 2008 05:56:01 PM
People are just broke. Some of my friends are barely getting by on local crap work. Most came back home to San Diego to recharge but they're fighting to pay the bills. Glad to see things being resolved. Peace.
Can anyone here list for us... by Pennsy	Feb 9th, 2008 05:57:54 PM
What the writers original demands were in one paragraph, then a second paragraph with what this deal entails and judge for ourselves what they got and what they didn't? Thanks.
FUCK THE WRITERS. by Stevie Grant	Feb 9th, 2008 05:58:29 PM
FUCK THE STUDIOS. FUCK THE INDUSTRY. I'm not in the industry, don't live in LA, I'm just a consumer of entertainment. WHEN CAN WE EXPECT NEW EPISODES OF OUR SHOWS?
It's too late for Lost to complete the full 16 by performingmonkey	Feb 9th, 2008 06:07:59 PM
Maybe they'll get 3 or 4 more episodes shot but definitely not all the remaining 8. They'll probably bring the finale forward to episode 12 and begin work on season 5 in the summer.
AT LAST!!!!! by Sonic Reducer	Feb 9th, 2008 06:20:10 PM
Now someone can get to work on the next Shasta McNasty!!!!! What good news this is!! It's a celebration bitches!!!!
Good News, Bad News by fastcars	Feb 9th, 2008 06:24:57 PM
Good news because The Daily Show will be funny again, and there is a slight chance Lost could add episodes to its truncated season. Bad News because Colbert and Conan - being improv guys at heart - were flourishing without writers. Colbert's show was just as funny without the 14 writers (14?! Jesus. Really?), and Conan's show was actually rejuvenuated, without those lame Mad Libs-esque recurring bits (Old Timey Ghost, The Interrupter, sigh.)
one has to assume by Jubba	Feb 9th, 2008 06:30:29 PM
that even though a writer might not be going in to work, he/she may still be working on their own on certain scripts so that once the strike is over there's a bunch of new material that is already done and ready to be edited. i would hope so at least.
Strabo: Correct level of destitution by chrth	Feb 9th, 2008 06:33:12 PM
It's a good question. Frankly, here's a good rule of thumb: does your job entail physical risk outside of a paper cut? If so, unionization is ok because your job has a negative drawback that could undermine your quality of life. So coal miners, auto workers, carpenters, stunt drivers, plumbers, electricians, cotton pickers, etc., are all people who an on-work accident could impede their ability to do their job and therefore need to be protected in such an event (I'm ignoring historical things such as child labor laws because they exist and there's no need to re-fight that fight as of now). Now some argue the government provides protection (OSHA, for example), but the government's a bunch of fucking morons who I wouldn't trust to do a damn thing right. Ooooh, Teamsters, so lazy and surly.
I'm sure there are plenty of movie scripts written by chrth	Feb 9th, 2008 06:33:55 PM
It's the collaborative TV shows (especially the nightlys) that probably are starting from scratch.
...and thank GOD for the Oscars. by fastcars	Feb 9th, 2008 06:34:20 PM
I don't know what I'd do without a soporific sycophantic three hour ceremony. Can you imagine a world without any Oscars, where you couldn't google the list of winners the next day, and search for the only entertaining moments on YouTube? (Shudders.)
Yay, Mori can start writing some more Hollywood movies!! by Vamp-AICNchat	Feb 9th, 2008 06:40:58 PM
:)
One thing I want to make clear here by chrth	Feb 9th, 2008 06:45:47 PM
I have no problem with the WGA, DGA and the SAG as entities. I do think that actors, writers, etc., deserve royalties, and they're right to negotiate for them. What I have a problem with are the WGA's methods. They leaked everything they could from the discussion. They were more interested in launching a PR offensive than negotiating. They made interim agreements so that some writers got to work and others didn't. In other words, I don't feel that the WGA leadership at any point had the best interests of their members in mind. They cared more about WGA Strike: A Hollywood Production than they did the writers (and they cared nothing at all about the non-writing members of the production staff). That's where my problem with the whole matter lies: they were more interested in striking than negotiating.
get fixing Depp's & Nair's Shantaram-and JLA by pipergates	Feb 9th, 2008 06:53:59 PM
great news, hope the writers gets a fairer share of those fat cat's bloated earnings.
Juno to win all Oscars! by skywalkerfamily	Feb 9th, 2008 06:59:30 PM
Hooray for Pregnant 17 year olds!
If missing the Oscars is the biggest crisis in Harry's life... by Atticus Finch	Feb 9th, 2008 07:07:50 PM
then-that...is a pretty sad -- existence.
JLA in its present form must stay DEAD by JTStyler	Feb 9th, 2008 07:21:42 PM
Well, looks like the writer's are going back to work soon. I can see some of you are already clamouring for JLA in it's current state to continue. Can't you people see that this will now be a rush job for a summer 2009 release? It's people like you who encourage mediocrity by accepting it. Oh and enough of this George Miller is the best thing since sliced bread. He made a great film once - over 20 years ago. Adam fucking Brody as the Flash? Armie Hammer as Batman? This film - it is not the right time, certainly not while Nolan is doing his thing. Marvel have got it spot on with the Avengers. Patience, establishing your solo heroes is the way to go. Only one good thing about JLA and that is Common as John Stewart. Oh and Megan Gale looks like Wondy but can this full-time model have real acting chops? You lot can enjoy your Fantastic Four-style JLA - you deserve it. The Styler has spoken.
does this mean by soup74	Feb 9th, 2008 07:31:44 PM
we'll finally get the full season of 'Journeyman'? (that was a little joke there.)
I'm so glad by Mockingbuddha	Feb 9th, 2008 07:33:24 PM
that Flash Gordon's writers can get back to their jobs!
What was so great about Juno? by I Dunno	Feb 9th, 2008 07:33:52 PM
Firstly, I love Ellen Page. I'd let her tie me up, put ice on my balls and pretend to castrate me any day but Juno was decidedly unspectacular. And Page was like any teenagers you meet on MySpace and convince to meet at Chuck E Cheese. Hold on, there's a Nightline truck outside.
Did anyone REALLY THINK.... by Playkins	Feb 9th, 2008 07:34:44 PM
...that this wouldn't be resolved before the Oscars? Come on, even the WGA wouldn't want to taint Hollywood's biggest ass-patting party.
wgas by Rupee88	Feb 9th, 2008 07:40:16 PM
does this mean we get more bad tv? oh goodie...95% of the writers are hacks...nothing wrong with making a living, but I don't care if the steelworkers strike either. Well I guess the few great writers have to strike with the rest of them, so maybe it is good that they can get back to work. The really great writers probably kept writing though.
I love these moral lessons from movie sites by Aethyrr	Feb 9th, 2008 07:46:03 PM
Like "You have to risk your houses, your kids' education, your health... because the future is worth that fight and those sacrifices" And my comment is 100% sarcasm free!
George Miller is the best thing since sliced bread. by Frank Einstein	Feb 9th, 2008 07:46:06 PM
Or maybe he's just an excellent filmmaker with an impressive body of work that has earned him the benefit of the doubt.
oscars have writers? by punto	Feb 9th, 2008 08:00:09 PM
wtf? are we talking about the person that hosts the oscars, or those cheesy jokes made by the people who present each award? either way, I think this might be one of those cases where not having writers benefits the show (like that late night guy who's getting more ratings than all the other guys, with no writers)
Can you imagine the horror by half vader	Feb 9th, 2008 08:01:40 PM
if the writers didn't craft those supposedly ad-libbed comments for the actors? You'd have an Oscars where the actors would be actually ad-libbing BY THEMSELVES! My God, no-one wants that - it'd be a bloody mess. Much better that mediocrity saves us again.
Re: George Miller by JTStyler	Feb 9th, 2008 08:20:27 PM
Firstly can anyone name any other George Miller movie apart from Mad Max 1 and 2 that will stand the test of time? Babe doesn't count. Aside from those two films, the rest of his admittedly varied body of work is merely OK. And besides anyone who tries to tell me that Adam Brody is Wally West does not deserve any benefit of the doubt. My main concerns with this film are that this is simply a cash grab, a toy-selling opportunity fo WB and for Miller a studio piece so he can make Mad Max 4. And by God, nothing anyone has done so far has made me think otherwise. And the lack of respect for Nolan's work in resurrecting the character of Batman is astounding.
Styler.... by Brians Life	Feb 9th, 2008 08:30:11 PM
I get your complaints and partially agree with them...I do trust George Miller and to counteract your statement...I don't think he's made ANY bad movies (Thunderdome forgiven a la Return of the Jedi rule)....the casting is shoddy to say the least. But Marvel CERTAINLY doesn't have their films in line by any means. Spider-Man franchise aside, most of them are clown shoes. I don't at all mind there being two batmen or supermen at the same time. I don't think Nolan's Batman would ever fit in a Justice League environment and I didn't really like Superman Returns, so gimme another take on that. TO ME, it's very much like how the respective universe's are in the comics. Marvel has always tried to craft this entire universe (and has only really fucked up in the last few years)....while DC has NEVER really kept to watchful an eye on continuity, and I like that. DC is always been more "comic booky" to me....eh?
Dude...Chrth.... by Brians Life	Feb 9th, 2008 08:35:23 PM
The claim that this strike was waged as a PR campaign by the WGA....Duh! Every criticism you bring up I see as a brilliant move during an all out strike in a unique industry that is constantly in the public eye, perpetrated by a group that never gets public sympathy.
Honestly, it wasn't bothering me THAT much... by DanielKurland	Feb 9th, 2008 08:42:22 PM
But ever since Lost started, I fucking need this strike to end. That and the tentative plans for the Arrested Development movie. Funny how something like this, can make me realize how much I'm NOT missing The Office, but anxiously awaiting and thinking about How I Met Your Mother. At least there's Breaking Bad and The Wire in the mean time.
Re: Marvel by JTStyler	Feb 9th, 2008 08:43:15 PM
I agree with most of what you have said. I feel that irrespective of quality, it is better to approach a mega-event team movie with separate movies first and that Marvel are going about this the right way. In truth though, the last quality marvel movie was Spidey 2 in 2004! I agree Nolan's Bats wouldn't fit in Justice League but having two competing Batmen is not a good idea unless they are completely different - perhaps an older Batman not a 21 yr old! You are right, Miller has never made a bad film except arguably Babe 2. However JLA as a concept is shakey - they are not a natural team and to treat them as such, diving straight in without individual movies is a mistake. It will either doom all the other heroes re: spin-offs or will turn into one hero and his friends ala wolverine and xmen. That's ok for xmen because wolverine is the only one will real spin-off potential in his own right but it will not do for dc comic icons, who are being played by complete jokers bar Common at present. The idea of continuity is a real problem in movies, we in geek world have grown up with different continuities, out there in movie world, it won't work. That being said with a few script adjustments i.e. Bruce clearly at a different stage in his career and re-casting, i would be up for it. Btw I do want to see Man of Steel, cos flaws and all I liked Superman Returns.
The Oscars.. by BoggyCreekBeast	Feb 9th, 2008 08:51:20 PM
Nothing like lame ass jokes, now 10% better with terrible strike jokes. Sheesh.
Can't wait to see the brilliant work they do by Pipple	Feb 9th, 2008 08:55:19 PM
Sure 95% of tv before the strike was shit but at least the office will be back... a show that was a remake of another show lolz.
PS. by JTStyler	Feb 9th, 2008 08:56:05 PM
i do think there is something deeply wrong with using a character ie. Batman that another director has essentially rehabilitated and using him in another story. It would be like making a Moonraker-style Bond film during filming of Quantum of Solace. Nolan's not happy and I'm not surprised - I'd be pissed. I feel although Nolan's Bats wouldn't fit in Justice League, WB should let him finish his likely trilogy first. But alas the WB are once again thinking with their wallets first.
I love the Oscars by skywalkerfamily	Feb 9th, 2008 08:56:08 PM
The damn orchestra gets to play over a thank you speech. Hilarity!
Brians Life: I have no issue with waging a PR campaign by chrth	Feb 9th, 2008 09:06:03 PM
My issue is when the organization waging said campaign makes it a priority over its members. And of course everyone has heard of the WGA, this isn't the first strike they've done in my lifetime.
Who gives a flying fuck about the Oscars? by critch	Feb 9th, 2008 09:14:40 PM
These old fucks gave a nom to the horrid 'Juno' over Sweeney Todd. This will be the first year I ever miss an Oscar broadcast, and I doubt I'll ever come back.
Last time Justine Bateman worked by half vader	Feb 9th, 2008 09:16:40 PM
Arrested developmentwasn't it? (spoilers if you haven't seen it I guess) Didn't she play like his long lost sister who Michael/Jason Bateman wanted to fuck unaware that she was a hooker that was fucking everyone at his company? I think that was it. Whole new twist on nepotism, and "'jobs' for the boys" come to think of it!
Oscars? Uh GET BACK TO WORK ON LOST DAMMIT by Stormwatcher	Feb 9th, 2008 09:37:52 PM
I could care less about any show on network TV except Lost. Please please do 4 more. You have time before May/June to complete 4 of them. Make next season 20 eps I don't care. Just give me a good 12 for this year. You have 6 more in the can. There is time. A 2 week hiatus at most. PLEAAAASE its like Crack.
She wasn't his sister... by JackIsLost	Feb 9th, 2008 09:38:21 PM
He just thought she was his sister. Of course, in real they are brother and sister. What else has she ever played in? And why did they ever cancel "Arrested Development", the best sitcom ever made (even if it was written by WGA members)?
And why can't they finish the rest of the season of LOST? by JackIsLost	Feb 9th, 2008 09:40:06 PM
So what if the final 8 episodes bleed into the summer? There's nothing on in the summer anyway, probably help ratings. They make the real money on the DVD sales/rentals and of course the inevitable syndication rights.
JackIsLost by MyManD316	Feb 9th, 2008 09:44:58 PM
Wasn't it the creators intentions to have 16 continuous episodes for Lost, similar to 24's set up where there's an episode every week? I guess if they are cancelling the final eight they'll just produce them to run with the next season non-stop. As for AD, despite its hilariousness, it had shit ratings. That's why it was cancelled.
Yeah, I know AD had terrible ratings... by JackIsLost	Feb 9th, 2008 09:53:10 PM
I was one of the 13 people watching it while it was still on. But doesn't it seem like there are a lot of shows that have no trouble getting renewed even though not many people watch them? I mean, really...who the hell watches JAG? ER will soon enter its 100th season... it just seems so unfair. When it comes to LOST, I don't know if I'd rather have two runs of 8 this year or one long run 24 next year to make up for it. Either would be okay, I guess but I am glutton for LOST and really, don't we all need more Jeff Fahey in our life?
JTStyler by waggy	Feb 9th, 2008 09:59:33 PM
Playing devil's advocate here, people didn't seem too confused when Batman Begins came out and didn't acknowledge any of the previous Batman films. And they certainly don't get confused when they see Dracula in a movie that has nothing to do with another movie Dracula was in a year earlier. So yeah, there's some precedent for people grasping the concept of separate universes in different films.
Well... by MyManD316	Feb 9th, 2008 10:09:21 PM
ER still averages about 10 million despite this last season being its worst rated yet and JAG was crazy popular when it was on. Hell, its spinoff NCIS is one of the highest rated scripted shows on TV right now. As for Lost, it might hurt for now, but imagine 24 blissful, uninterrupted, weeks next season. No downtime and something to look forward to consistently. I'll take an 8 episode for that.
People REALLY watch JAG? by JackIsLost	Feb 9th, 2008 10:13:54 PM
I believe your stats of course, but I have never heard anyone chatting about it at work or while hanging out with friends or anything. I mean there are so MANY shows I hear people casually chatting about but I have not heard word ONE about JAG... I'm just saying.
JAG isn't on anymore by skywalkerfamily	Feb 9th, 2008 10:15:59 PM
It hasn't been on for a few years. AD sucked though, how that show had an audience I don't know.
JAG is on in syndication... by JackIsLost	Feb 9th, 2008 10:18:54 PM
And anyone who says AD sucked is a grade-A moron.
Annoyed by future help	Feb 9th, 2008 10:19:53 PM
by the Vince Vaughn Roadshow ad/photo of "the cast"-"gang"... every single one of those faces ANNOY me.
People who watched AD were grade a morons by skywalkerfamily	Feb 9th, 2008 10:20:23 PM
Oh wait. No one did.
Jack is lost by half vader	Feb 9th, 2008 10:23:28 PM
Oh that's right. His long lost sister turned out to be Lindsay before her nosejob didn't it? Hafta watch it again. And I think the Justine Bateman ep. was called 'Family Ties'. Hur hurr. Yep AR is a great American sitcom - in the British tradition. Bring on the movie. Hopefully the DVDs have sold well enough all over the world that it could come back like Futurama (I don't like Family Guy but props for paving the way). Although I do have a feeling that it would have been a perfect 5-6 season series, not longer. God forbid you have the sort of show that needs to build an audience these days. If it doesn't rate immediately you get pushed around the week and timeslots. Instantly dooming the show when people can't find it. Of COURSE it gets shit ratings and is therefore cancelled. Grrr.
And how did Stargate last 11 million seasons? by half vader	Feb 9th, 2008 10:25:33 PM
Faustian pact?
Seriously? by the_patriot	Feb 9th, 2008 10:46:06 PM
I'm a lifelong movie fan myself, but anyone who is using the Oscars as a reason to rejoice that this is over is RETARDED. If there is ANYTHING that ceremony needs LESS of, it's WRITING. That's the reason the bloody show is 5 1/2 days long in the first place. Second, I don't have a problem with these writers trying to get what they think they can for their work. That's no different than anyone else in this world. I DO have a distinct problem with unions - an organization designed to act as bully on behalf of people who are piss poor negotiators in how they handle their own business affairs and everyone else be damned. Quite honestly, any organization willing to fuck over thousands of people who collaborate with them on a work to create a project is selfish, self centered, egotistical bullshit. If I was a gaffer who'd been out of work for 3 months and some beaming writer came up to me on set, some harsh unscripted words might ensue. And newsflash, writers. Yes, while you may "create something from your imagination" and smugly sit back and "dare you to do the same," you don't do a damn thing alone in Hollywood. When you have lensed, edited, costumed, casted, and shot an entire episode or film entirely by yourself in ADDITION to writing it, let me know. Until then, it's not just your big top circus. Remember that when you look into the eyes of the hourly workers you've put out of a job for 3 months while you were whining about how you didn't quite have enough. Fuck you.
From the outside.... by seanny_d	Feb 9th, 2008 11:19:51 PM
This strike looked to be a clusterfuck of monumental proportions. I only know of what I read, but it seemed like for the longest time it was a dick measuring contest between the two sides to see who'd crack first. I fully support and have supported the writers in what they've been asking for, but again, it ain't my money they're asking for. (Although I'd be totally fine with a 5 cent increase on purchased DVDs.) I take issue with the way it all went down. It was like both sides almost WANTED the strike in the way negotiations were handled. I'm definitely not saying that the writers ACTUALLY wanted it, but it just seemed like it in how poorly the negotiations appeared to be handled. My concern is that this whole fucking thing is going to repeat itself this summer with the actors. Here's to hoping that it doesn't.
HEADGEEK, by Stevie Grant	Feb 9th, 2008 11:35:43 PM
your response to chrth practically made the case that the majority of writers were fucked over by the union decision to strike. Not taking any sides in this comment, just callin' them like I see 'em.
The Catherine Bell Show, aka "JAG" by chromedome	Feb 9th, 2008 11:53:30 PM
Catherine Bell and Zoe McLellan: two reasons to watch JAG the only two reasons, actually
Honestly, the only reason I cared about this... by Zeke25:17	Feb 10th, 2008 12:24:41 AM
...is because now Scrubs will come back and actually finish its final season. Of course, after it's gone, it'll be replaced by a reality show called THE BIGGEST POOPER, and there'll be a team of judges that argue over which contestant dropped the biggest load in his/her bowl. The loser has to eat...well, you get the idea. And will people watch it? You betcha. Why? Because they're FUCKING STUPID! Scrubs: The Only TV Show Not for Stupid People! Returning next week on NBC!
No, by Stevie Grant	Feb 10th, 2008 12:36:31 AM
I get it; but, a bird in hand in better than two in the bush. I was just saying the vast majority of writers suffered lost wages for several months that they won't recover. But YAY!!! they get a few more points on whatever-the-hell!!! All's well that ends well...
Man Of The Year by DeweyOxburger	Feb 10th, 2008 12:45:02 AM
The Robin Williams-president movie wasn't very good, but one line about JAG was pretty damn funny - seriously, who watched JAG? maybe four people, and the rest were senior citizens who fell asleep watching 'jeopardy!' and left the TV on...
Scrubs is for smug twits. by Galva	Feb 10th, 2008 01:40:10 AM
What were we talking about? Oh yeah... strike and all. I only sorta support it, in that I think what they're asking for is somewhat reasonable, but their method- putting hundreds (possibly thousands) of people out of work- is unconscionable.
Wow, jingoism that makes Juliani sound intellectual. by Galva	Feb 10th, 2008 01:47:43 AM
That Joss Whedon article, I mean.
Yay, Lost! Boo, Heroes! Yay, 24! by Zardoz	Feb 10th, 2008 01:51:38 AM
Screw Heroes, they can get flushed down the toilet with the rest of the turds...
Hah Joss by skywalkerfamily	Feb 10th, 2008 02:11:20 AM
Go back to writing those comic books for females.
Screw Joss Whedon by Hamtaro Hentai	Feb 10th, 2008 02:23:45 AM
It's easy for the rich ones to ride the high horses. He certainly isn't starving to death...
I said fuck unionised writers... by Tourist	Feb 10th, 2008 02:51:48 AM
...Not unions. The differences between striking miners and writers is that one is refusing to work for below living standards to mine a natural, shoulda-been-shared natural resource that is necessary to the functioning of society, and the other is a douchebag who would be lucky to be described as somewhat partially necessary to leisure item.
If there was no WGA... by Tourist	Feb 10th, 2008 02:58:15 AM
...And writers were paid what they were worth, and all the TV writers were too broke to write TV, the world would be a better place with more quality entertainment, rather than buckets and buckets of dreck. I don't know how any fucking human being can sit through an entire episode of any talk show. To answer Bad Mr Wonka, I don't consider myself off, but most people I meet do. I get more "shut the fuck up"'s than I can count. It's okay, you'll either all bend to my way of thinking or die eventually.
Whedon article posted on Wed. by buffywrestling	Feb 10th, 2008 03:33:52 AM
when the deal wasn't even available for perusal. He was being the booster he has been since the beginning, if somewhat dramatic (Hardly a surprise, that.) In the comments section, Drew Goodard and Steven S DeKnight support his stance. When livelyhoods are on the line, a complacent mind set is detrimental; be aware and dillegent. I see you are posting quite a bit on UH tonight Bacci!
Pirates of the Carribean by Darth Fart	Feb 10th, 2008 04:33:52 AM
You know how much the writers made from that film? About 6-7000 dollars! ----- There's money for everyone. I can't believe how greedy the studios are. They don't need to be.
Tourist by BadMrWonka	Feb 10th, 2008 05:30:55 AM
I have to ask, because I'm not sure I follow...are you saying the shows on television that DON'T have writers are...um...more quality entertainment? American Gladiators better than The Office? The Real World better than The West Wing? I'm not quite following the logic here...
get back to work you lazy fucks by Spoiler_Man	Feb 10th, 2008 07:09:21 AM
i bet half of the writers who should be writing my new series of 24 are sitting around eating donuts and poluting the aicn talkbacks with their "im so hard done by!" messages. these fat, lazy, greedy sons of bitches better get back to work soon or im gonna take action. Get a real job or start fucking writing some scripts you hacks.
TOO SOON!!!!! by BringingSexyBack	Feb 10th, 2008 07:34:13 AM
I want more reality shows!!
TO EVERYONE WHO HATES THE OSCARS - YOU HATE AMERICA by BringingSexyBack	Feb 10th, 2008 07:38:18 AM
Face the fact - part of why America is so admired around the world is because of shows like the Oscars. George Clooney, Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie are our ambassadors to the world, generating good will and cachet for our national image and corporate brands. Why do you think Pitt does commercials in Japan and not here? He is helping American businesses abroad and keeping Americans employed, fed and clothed. God Bless you Brad.
THANKS TO THE WGA STRIKE WE NOW HAVE by BringingSexyBack	Feb 10th, 2008 07:40:03 AM
"The Real Housewives of New York". Thanks a lot, fuckers.
EXCUSE ME, BUT DOES ANYONE THINK AMERICAN GLADIATORS PALES by BringingSexyBack	Feb 10th, 2008 07:41:31 AM
in comparison to the original? Or was the original great because we were kids watching it? This one is totally boring.
Hay bacci, if you're still around... by raw_bean	Feb 10th, 2008 07:54:05 AM
Moviemaniac7 was wondering if all the striking writers had written awesome spec material during the strike that might see the light of day and get made when the studios are scrabbling for new content, and you told him that any writers doing that would be scabs. You're wrong. Spec scripts are scripts written by a writer spontaneously because they want to, as opposed to writing scripts they're contracted for for movies/shows in development/production at studios. As such, they have nothing to do with the WGA's contract with the studios, until the writer pitches their story to a studio to try and get them to buy it and produce it. The last strike years ago was used by many working writers to do something with their pet projects and little ideas they had in the back of their minds that they never had time for because of all the contracted-for work they were working on. Then once the strike was over, there was a wealth of innovative and original material sold to studios. My favourite show ever, Babylon 5, was one such project that it's creator, JMS, was able to work out the idea for it that he'd had whilst on strike, although it took him five years afterwards to find someone willig to produce it.
Argentino by messi	Feb 10th, 2008 08:03:41 AM
you make me sick to be race related. JLA will suck. you are alone. only you and the actors seem to give a shit. the actors strike will happen and by the time production is about to happen TDK will come out which will convince WB(which they are already thinking about) that to have 2 different batmen and risk losing Nolan is incredibly stupid.
Who gives a shit about oscars? by messi	Feb 10th, 2008 08:10:16 AM
Most people who watch it are too fucking stupid to even attempt to see something like There will be Blood. On TMZ when Daniel Day-Lewis was interviewed on oprah and did a tribute to Heath Ledger, people were saying that it's a publicity stunt. What a bunch of cockfucks. Other people had to tell them it's Daniel Day-Lewis, the dude who left acting to become a cobbler, not some hack like Lindsay Lohan.
I was in favor of the strike... by greenstyle92	Feb 10th, 2008 09:09:35 AM
Until lost started up again. Now I need it to be over as soon as possible so I can get the rest of Season 4, Dammit! (So right now, we're stareing down the barrel of season 4.9 and on starting this fall, right? Dammit, the year Lost embraces nonstop spring seasons is the same year the strike fucks it up! Dammit!)
critch by messi	Feb 10th, 2008 09:28:59 AM
that's why you're angry because juno was nominated instead of sweeney todd? what? isn't it more intelligent to say juno was nominated instead of the assassination of jesse james or This is England.
Actually, waggy by JTStyler	Feb 10th, 2008 09:32:46 AM
Firstly that was a different situation as Batman Begins happened 8yrs after Batman and Robin so it does not count as a simultaneously co-existing continuity unlike here where JLA will exist smack in middle of Nolan's trilogy. Secondly, we geeks were ok but trust there were idiots in my cinema who were asking why the Joker didn't kill Bruce's parents and who asked me at the end regarding Gordon's speech and the card scene that that's not how the Joker began referring to Batman '89. To this day, I am still explaining to people that Begins is not a prequel - it is a complete re-imagining! Can't wait for the fun we're gonna be having with JLA. Surely, you must see my point...
Hey Jett by JTStyler	Feb 10th, 2008 09:47:14 AM
No, I'm in the right forum, just venting a little anger at the likelihood that the end of the strike means that JLA will probably proceed in it's current state as is. God help us all!
JTStyler by messi	Feb 10th, 2008 10:36:18 AM
you know what it is, gregory novak, the head of dc media, thinks that parallel universe can co exist in film. which is stupid. it fucked up dc comics which led to crisis and this cunt thinks it will work in the movies? what a dumb fuck.
The Oscars by DigitalBeachWar	Feb 10th, 2008 10:42:38 AM
Why in the hell do people care about The Oscars so damn much? They are boring and FAKE! And why in the hell do people want to see a shitty JLA movie... the writers strike was the best thing to happen. Put an end to the shitty ideas like JLA and a falling HEROES series.
As for the Oscars... by Lenny Nero	Feb 10th, 2008 10:52:18 AM
...if the strike was still on, SAG would continue asking their actors not to attend, so it would be more than just the written bits going away. The whole fucking point of the thing would go away. As for Justine Bateman, I saw her recently in Jake Kasdan's film "The TV Set," which was in theatres last year.
God I hate Jackislost by gripman	Feb 10th, 2008 11:33:49 AM
I belong to one of the motion picture studio unions you hate so much .... remember your comment 'God I hate unions' ? We bring the writers words to life in th movies you watch every day. Without unions (or guilds) geeks like you would lowball wages down to minimum wage. Sure not all tv shows or movies are what you would watch ('Cavemen', 'JAG') but the greedy studios make million if not billions of the dreck that they pay for. Shut your pie hole and plant yourself down in front of your mind numbing tv and eat your cheetos.
I'd like to ask again... by Pennsy	Feb 10th, 2008 01:09:48 PM
What were the WGA looking for and what does this deal ultimately give them, in the key areas of dispute. A side-by-side comparison would help the fringe folks like me who haven't followed every minute detail of the strike. It would be appreciated; thanks.
Wonka... by Tourist	Feb 10th, 2008 02:08:29 PM
...Yeah, basically. Don't get me wrong, I love The Wire, and I'm sure I would enjoy the odd episode of other scripted Television here and there, but honestly The West Wing? Lost? No. Sure, they are better than lower tier programming like CSI Everywhere and scripted talk shows, but not by alot. American Gladiators and The Biggest Loser are about as good as Battlestar Gallactica etc. Half a dozen of one and six of the other. You said it yourself, "...The Office". Yes, it could dissapear tomorrow, because you already have the British version, which is actually good, unlike its American counterpart which is actually bad. Of course, my statement was wishful thinking. Rather than cull the herd to leave only quality standing, it would probally result in all quality entertainment being removed in place of the above mentioned dreck.
Bacci... by Tourist	Feb 10th, 2008 02:16:09 PM
...Striking is fun. Plus you get to make your point very loudly that The Man is mean. You could just not work for them full stop. Take your business or abilities to other sources. But thats more effort and less comfortable than just pissing people off and throwing a group tantrum for a few months then going back to whats comfortable.
tourist ... by gripman	Feb 10th, 2008 02:47:54 PM
what pathetic job do you do? You sound like a bush-bot repuke ... keep watching tv and movies and go back to your non-union puke job greeting at wal-mart or serving fries and diet-coke to the morbidly obese ...
Real Damage by Damer1	Feb 10th, 2008 04:19:56 PM
The Writers and the studios just shot themselves in the foot. In an industry that's already under pressure from new media they will continue to see their influence and revenues shrink. Good work.
Pennsy by buffywrestling	Feb 10th, 2008 04:30:08 PM
I can't do it from my computer but if you go to the wga site, they have the contract from the original Worldwide Pants deal - which is supposedly the deal they first gave to the AMPTP - and the new deal that was agreed upon this weekend. You could print them out and compare (if you do, please let me know? It's an interesting point that you make.) 4
This was pathetic by Tigger11	Feb 10th, 2008 04:43:28 PM
They could have have settled for this without a strike. The writers for the Golden Globes would have been paid more then the residuals they are going to get for 2008 on this deal from the big 4. This makes the Football strike of 1987 look absolutely clever. They took off for 3 months without pay and now have got themselves this awesome deal!! I guess we know why they are writers because math isnt there strong suit. -Tig
THIS IS ENGLAND WON BEST BAFTA!!!!!!!!!!!! by messi	Feb 10th, 2008 04:50:30 PM
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !! BEST BRITISH FILM!!!!!!!!! FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Atonement won the big prize, though... by Pennsy	Feb 10th, 2008 07:27:21 PM
And practically nothing else. Not for McAvoy, Knightley, anyone. The strike just slaughtered any momentum it got from winning the GG best drama award. At least IMO.
Grip, by Tourist	Feb 11th, 2008 04:49:14 AM
I sell shit for a living. You know, products and services. I don't need a union because I'm already overpaid. Thats because my job is a necessity. While yours is a luxury that a monkey could do. Seriously, since when did Carnies get fucking unions anyway? Atonement was good. But This Is England was better. I wonder if Shane Meadows is in the WGA. Or did he just get by on the dole and his talent?
Tourist sells shit for a living!! by buffywrestling	Feb 11th, 2008 10:41:53 AM
And he doesn't have a union. If I was Tourist, I would lobby for a shit union. I know he is "overpaid" but he does deal in shit by definition. The workers below him are probably saying, "I work just as hard as Tourist but he deals in shit and he makes me wallow in it for his own sense of purpose!" "Who let that monkey in here?": No worries; Tourist has control of luxury sapiens just as much as he has control over....dear god; it's sticking a finger up it's swollen ass.. Bad Luxury monkey! BAD! Tourist has to type a response with that!!!
Status of Major TV shows ATS by hodag007	Feb 11th, 2008 11:33:12 AM
http://www.darkhorizons.com/ne ws08/080210f.php
Status of Major Shows (again) by hodag007	Feb 11th, 2008 11:39:50 AM
Try again http://tinyurl.com/2jw33x
The people that work under me... by Tourist	Feb 11th, 2008 02:50:41 PM
...Are indeed brown. I'm scared they will unionise and those damn thugees will strangle me when I'm sleeping on my lunch break.
tourist by gripman	Feb 11th, 2008 10:14:42 PM
we can only hope ...
Or boycott awards shows. by Tourist	Feb 12th, 2008 12:45:53 AM

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