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What’s The Story With Rob Zombie And CONAN?!

Booya! Again! by EvilGeek1	Feb 8th, 2008 06:34:14 AM
Yay!
Oh Dear... by MMacKK	Feb 8th, 2008 06:34:21 AM

Let Zombie do Scorpion King 2, give a better director Conan. by CreasyBear	Feb 8th, 2008 06:37:21 AM

Not just no but FUCK NO! by Mr. Moe	Feb 8th, 2008 06:38:51 AM
Zombie shouldn't be allowed anywhere near this film!
Fuck no.... by Mr. Profit	Feb 8th, 2008 06:39:32 AM
I don't need to see a 10 year old Conan wearing an AC/DC loin cloth..... Fuck you Zombie. You are a hack. And to think I gave you credit with "The Devils Rejects". What's next for this hack to ruin? A remake of "A Clockwork Orange"?
You couln't choose a worse director... by DoctorWho?	Feb 8th, 2008 06:40:09 AM
I would do backflips for a Michael Bay Conan vision over this doofus any day. I kid you not. That being said, it's a bullshit story any way.
Hysterical by Lost Jarv	Feb 8th, 2008 06:41:43 AM
But is the world ready for trailer trash conan
There's white trash in Conan's world? by I Dunno	Feb 8th, 2008 06:41:52 AM
It'll be interesting to see a horse drawn doublewide.
jesus no! by DannyDorko666	Feb 8th, 2008 06:43:45 AM
Zombie cant even make decent music, why do people think he can direct? I dont want to see Conan reimagined as a backwooods cimmerian serial killer who torture-porns his victims with a southern rock soundtrack, Rob please write something of your own and fuck THAT up.
His Halloween remake was abyssmal by filmcoyote	Feb 8th, 2008 06:50:22 AM
Seriously i thought Halloween: Resurrection was as low at they could go but Zombie's was a disaster. He shouldn't be allowed to make any movie let alone a remake of Conan. Have any Hollywood execs even seen House of 1,000 Corpses - does noone realise how talentless Zombie is?
I would like to also echo a big NO! by bowtiehoon	Feb 8th, 2008 06:50:37 AM
but yeah i don't think the suits are that crazy, agreed its a non story :p
I think Zombie would be an inspired choice... by HarryBlackPotter	Feb 8th, 2008 06:50:53 AM
for the gore content, but there's more to R. E. Howards Conan than brawn and bloody axes. Hyboria is a land as rich and magical as Middle Earth, which is why we need someone who understands fantasy as well as horror - and we definately need to see both. I dunno who could handle that, other than say...Peter Jackson?
Uh.............................. how bout no!! by Nicoflex	Feb 8th, 2008 06:52:17 AM
Zombie is a mediocre at fucking best. At worst a sham of a director. Let him fuck around with some 80's white trash, horror remakes instead.
I actually liked Devils Rejects by DonnieDorko	Feb 8th, 2008 06:54:26 AM
But Rob Zombie is of course an extremley idiotic choice for this kind of movie, would've been nice to see Yimou Zhang directing Conan, would never happen but would've been really nice. Conan could be great, don't make "Kull the conqueror" part 2!!
Gore Verbinski should direct by HarryBlackPotter	Feb 8th, 2008 06:56:59 AM
He's a great visual artist and can balance horror and the fantastical. Just a pity the last 2 Pirate movies had really, really convoluted plots.
Go for it... by ddschneider1972	Feb 8th, 2008 06:57:19 AM
I'd love to see Rob cut his teeth on a non-horror movie. If his Halloween wouldn't have been "Halloween" but a story of a no-name child that grew up to be a psychotic killer, it wouldn't have been as hated, but since it "raped the childhood" of too many geeks it's hated. Rob needs to branch out before he's pigeon-holed as a director of movies about trashy people from the 70's...a fantasy period piece would be awesome.
Here's an idea: What about... by MelvintheMopBoy	Feb 8th, 2008 06:59:34 AM
...fucking MILIUS?!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At least the guy has an original style by Spandau Belly	Feb 8th, 2008 07:00:35 AM
Most of the time these remake/reboots get thrown to some former commercial director who (under Michael Bay's supervision) film a boring bland movie. So to get a distinct voice like Zombie isn't so bad. Big name directors usually avoid touching properties like this because they want to establish their own movies without the baggage of other people's work.
Rob Zombie is a piece of shit by Bobo_Vision	Feb 8th, 2008 07:00:41 AM
An artist shows you his soul through his work, and after viewing all of Zombie's films, I can unabashedly say, Rob Zombie is a piece of shit.
Will Rob be also doing the soundtrack? by Stalkeye	Feb 8th, 2008 07:02:35 AM
"Conanan,Conanan calling, Conanan got a sword in my hand."
Terrible 'director'... by Crawing	Feb 8th, 2008 07:03:17 AM
...his 'films' are all over the place. I don't believe he directs - merely throws all this nasty, vile, pointless crud at the screen and lets it fester into something really nasty, vile and pointless that some people will like simply because it's, well, nasty and vile.
Ooh, here's an idea! by Dmann	Feb 8th, 2008 07:11:30 AM
have they taken a meeting with, i dunno, maybe, JOHN MILLIUS???
Bloody Disgusting... by Sigmar25	Feb 8th, 2008 07:11:41 AM
are douch bags - and i'm sure they are gonna be humping Rob's leg all the way the box-office. I just hope it's not for a Conan movie
Really?! by Noir_LeBlanc	Feb 8th, 2008 07:13:50 AM
I'm curious about how Rob Zombie's take on Conan will look in the finished product. Cross your fingers and here's to hoping he'll fair better here than his Halloween remake.
Zob Rombie's by Napoleon Park	Feb 8th, 2008 07:15:45 AM
making a movie about Conan O'Brien? What?
I liked Devils Rejects but it was a fucking fluke! by EvilGeek1	Feb 8th, 2008 07:16:39 AM

HarryBlackPotter by kwisatzhaderach	Feb 8th, 2008 07:16:41 AM
Gore Verbinski is very good at making bland shit. Which isn't really a good match for the world of Conan.
Note to the Producers if they're listening by kwisatzhaderach	Feb 8th, 2008 07:20:40 AM
Conan is all about epic mythology. Keep those as your watchwords and you can't go wrong. Unless you hire Rob Zombie of course. Please make a Conan movie like Conan The Barbarian. Do not make a Conan movie like Conan The Destroyer. Thanks for listening.
You can't defend the Halloween Remake... by Mr. Profit	Feb 8th, 2008 07:24:53 AM
And no it did not "Rape My Childhood". It is just a bad movie. Too much time on Michael. Bad writing. Unnecessary sub plots. His home life wasn't interesting. The kid who played Michael would have had hishead bashed in with rocks at my elementry school. He was not scary or creepy just weak. The look on his face when he decided to kill his sister was just dumb. The OD rock soundtrack that did nothing but drive up the budget due to song licensing. How the original film was crammed into 30 mins. Laurie was an asshole and annoying. And her friends Myspace message board lines. It was just a bad movie. And peple give the dialogue in Death Proof a beating? Why do people defend this and say that fans of the original are too uptight? If it weren't for the fans to begin with, there would be no remake. By the way I enjoyed the TCM remake more than Zombieween. Mainly because I viewed it as a sequel rather than a remake.
what about new ideas ? by TimMighty	Feb 8th, 2008 07:25:35 AM
...yeah im serious..what about them ? Im cool with transforming saturday mornin cartoons into movies but if the new trend is to remake...crappy 80s movies ?! i dont know man.
Don't get the hate... However... by hamslime	Feb 8th, 2008 07:30:19 AM
John Carpenter + Jamie Lee Cutis = Boring movie. I understand that I'm the minority on this one, but I didn't hate Zombie's Halloween at all. As much as I love Carpenter, I can't stand Halloween or The Fog so take my opinion for what it is. As much as I did like Zombie's Halloween, I would have preferred he do an original movie. Same applies here. I'm sure I'll enjoy watching Rob's version of Conan, but I would rather he do something original instead. He's got a colorful imagination, maybe he should use the thing before it atrophies.
100 dollars says... by EvilGeek1	Feb 8th, 2008 07:31:01 AM
Conan doesn't decapitate anyone at the end!
will Conan have a Gotta take a shit sword? by Kloipy	Feb 8th, 2008 07:31:47 AM

Zombie has the blood splatter factor down by rsswope	Feb 8th, 2008 07:31:55 AM
But Conan is much more than that. He's more than a hulking unstoppable killing machine, he's Han Solo on gamma radiated steroids. He's not just a psychotic, and it seems Zombie can only deal with psychotics when it comes to violence.
WE NEED TO Make a website by juliomario14	Feb 8th, 2008 07:32:32 AM
we need to make a website where everybody can sign a pettion so White Zombie cant direct CONNAN ....
I love REH original stories by CuervoJones	Feb 8th, 2008 07:36:20 AM
But i love John Milius movie, too. And i like Rob Zombie´s movies (except Halloween). So, i think that those are interesting news.
hamslime by Lost Jarv	Feb 8th, 2008 07:36:21 AM
HAND IN YOUR GEEK CARD. TURN AROUND SLOWLY AND GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE. Ye gods. I hope 2true stabs you in the mouth with a pencil.
Is Zombie's wife gonna get plowed by Conan? by Laza-rus	Feb 8th, 2008 07:36:55 AM
Don't let this guy smear another classic film. Halloween had its moments, especially some of the young Mikey Myers scenes, but the shlock horror genre is much more his forte - he is just wrong for Conan.
I wonder how many people will get raped in this one by Kloipy	Feb 8th, 2008 07:39:08 AM
that's what zombie should call his next movie; There Will Be Rape.
DEAR GOD NO NO NO NO by m_prevette	Feb 8th, 2008 07:39:27 AM
Zombie is a talentless hack - his movies are shockingly bad - please please no...now...in light of this news...why isn't Harry going on a hate filled tirade as he did when Ratner's name was connected to Wolfman?
WHITE ZOMBIE FUCKING RULED!!!! by BRUTICUS	Feb 8th, 2008 07:39:42 AM
Was better than Rob Zombies solo career. BOTH were far better than his movies. However, HALLOWEEN was a FAR better and far more evolved film than his two american reject movies. Sorry but those films were horror movies that just WERE NOT scary at all. The killers were in a way the protagonists and kind of glamorized which COULD have been cool if somehow they were likable with ANY redeemable quality, intelligence for example. The only one you remotely like is his wife cause well, you'd probably fuck her. Now CONAN. If he can stray away from trailer trash tendencies enough. (even halloween was a far distance from the american reject movies) If he can go much farther away from thathe could make it cool. HALLOWEEN in a way failed. See the people remaking all these movies have to realize......YES people WANT to know the back stories of these characters but if you tell them what it is, they wont want it ANYMORE. You have to keep the characters shrouded in mystery. That is why the people fall in love with them. Give them a back story and a reason to empathize with them and you SOFTEN the character. Its NOT rocket science.
FUCK THIS!!!!!! by DocPazuzu	Feb 8th, 2008 07:40:30 AM
Holy fuck I can't believe how shitty that idea is!
the fact that they would even meet with zombie... by lilgorgor	Feb 8th, 2008 07:42:07 AM
is a terrible warning about the quality we can expect from this film. (although using the writers of "sahara" is enough of a kiss of death already)
Ken Foree as Conan - in a HUGE afro please. by alucardvsdracula	Feb 8th, 2008 07:44:46 AM
Plus lots of tities, beavers, asses and corpses soaked with blood.
Karl Urban as Conan... by EvilGeek1	Feb 8th, 2008 07:46:54 AM
but I still wouldn't watch it. Just out of principals.
NO! NO! NO! If you are listening studios... by sonnyfern	Feb 8th, 2008 07:48:54 AM
Are you fucking kidding me? That's perhaps the WORST idea I've ever heard in my life! Honestly, do you have any idea what they have here? We're talking fucking CONAN here people. I honestly don't have a problem with Zombie, but he's not ready to tackle something this big. Get a REAL director for fucks sake...You want inspiration? Check out Hour Of The Dragon...that story is HUGE! There's giant wars, monsters, Conans a king, becomes a slave, has to reclaim his kingdom, it's an epic saga, you could make a trilogy out of that story alone. Don't screw this up! The potential is limitless and Jesus Christ make it rated R!!!!!
One word: NOOOOOOOO! by WesReviews	Feb 8th, 2008 07:50:35 AM
Zombie is completely wrong for Conan. He was completely wrong for Halloween and he will be completely wrong for Conan. What he does best are films like The Devil's Rejects. Raw, 1970's type trashy drive-in pics. That is what he excells in. He tried to do an 80's type horror film (House of 1000 Corpses) and failed. He tried to do a slasher film (Halloween...and it's a subgenre he hated, by the way) and failed. His sole success as a director has been The Devil's Rejects. It's the genre he respects and enjoys most, and it's his niche. He's trying not to be pegged as one thing or another, and by making his projects all over the map, he's leaving piles of shit in his wake. He needs to stick to 70's exploitation film types and the studio and producers overseeing Conan need to look in a completely different direction. Please, Zombie is a one-trick pony, and until he realizes this and is comfortable with this, he'll keep making the same movie over and over and over and unless it's in the genre it belongs in, it won't be any good. Please, find someone else to write and direct Conan. How about Wolfgang Petersen? Jonathan Mostow?
ROB DIRECTING CONAN.. IT'S LIKE MANOWAR : THE MOVIE...!!! by Greigy Just Wanted To Say	Feb 8th, 2008 07:51:22 AM
Born of black wind, fire and steel...!!!
HOWEVER by BRUTICUS	Feb 8th, 2008 07:52:31 AM
WHITE ZOMBIE FUCKING RULED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WANT A REUNION, LA SEXORCISTO STYLE MF!!!! Make Conan REAL, BELIEVABLE, when you look in his eyes you want the emotion to be subtle. Yeah you want to see the good guy in his eyes but BARELY mostly the good guy should come out in the consequence of his brutal actions. YES you want to see him be amused by the vagabond trying to rob or the thug trying to sucker punch him but barely... BARELY!!!The greatest thing I ever saw Conan do in the comics was stand with 10 guys, guarding a castle they stole... and a very angry, entire army breaking through the ramparts. Everyone practically feeling already defeated and Conan said something awesomely brutal (wish I could remember what he said) but he jumped off the side of the castle with his sword clasped between two fists and jumped right into the middle of the opposing army! FUCKIN BAD ASS. Get Sean and J and Tempesta or Ivan!!!! AND REUNION MAN!!!!!! SOUL CRUSHER BRO!!!!!! I remember thinking damn.. this Zombie motherfucker has STYLE!Here's another tip how bout an animated or otherwise version of a cosmic monsters type movie. Rob Zombie has an INTENSE visual imagination. reaching from all corners of human fantasy, MONSTERS, HORROR, PORN, SPACE, LASERS. Quite Awesome. Make a movie about that shit bro. Make use of that imagination. Pitch it. Make it happen.
so zombie is content with being a remake hack by krycek08	Feb 8th, 2008 08:00:06 AM
guess his motives weren't as artistic as I thought
God, I hope not... by Halloween68	Feb 8th, 2008 08:00:31 AM
For all his hype, Zombie hasn't made a truly good film yet. I wasn't a big a fan of DEVILS REJECTS as apparently everyone else. That said, I thought it was "alright". Other than that, he's made absolute crap. I mean, check this... In the beginning of his career he left a truly good band, White Zombie, to pursue a Trent Reznor wanna be mediocre solo career. Next, he left a mediocre solo career to pursue a crappy film career. The dude's career can only get worst from here. Do we want him involved in a CONAN movie. Please keep him away from Robert E. Howards stories. He'll probably try to turn it into some kind of HE-MAN MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE rippoff. Hello ... Lions Gate ... Did you see what he did to HALLOWEEN?!?!?
Rob Zombie?....NO. But.... by FlickaPoo	Feb 8th, 2008 08:01:39 AM
...Conan SHOULD be bloody and a bit shocking...Conan stories always have a healthy dollop of horror. No standard pg-13 sword and sandal epics for Conan thank you.
NOOOOOOOOO! by Live.	Feb 8th, 2008 08:04:11 AM
I had such hopes for this movie. Yes, Conan should be bloody, and hard R, but not done by a B-movie director.
Conan isn't really a "remake" or an 80's movie... by sonnyfern	Feb 8th, 2008 08:05:39 AM
A lot of people don't seem to get it. If you've only seen that Arnold movie, and never read any of the original Howard stories...you don't know Conan AT ALL...it's 100 times more brilliant. Again, the potential for this is amazing...I pray for a REAL Conan movie. But the odds of getting one are slim to none.
I feel it's a good choice by MetiphisLabs	Feb 8th, 2008 08:06:09 AM
Heavy Metal + Medieval story = Win
It's better than any of the directors mentioned so far... by Sledge Hammer	Feb 8th, 2008 08:10:18 AM
That's not saying I'm convinced, far from it in fact, but at least Zombie would likely be far more true to the spirit of the original R.E. Howard material and bring it a real mix of savagery, rawness and sexuality that such a film demands, something that I very much doubt we'd get from any of the other paycheck directors mentioned thus far, most of whom I imagine would be focussed solely on one thing, delivering a heavily filtered, pg-13, mass audience friendly Conan. Does that mean that Zombie has the talent to make it all work? Well, that's certainly debatable at this point, but I guess I'd rather risk seeing a glorious failure over a generic repackaging any day.
Lost Jarv by hamslime	Feb 8th, 2008 08:11:27 AM
Sorry you don't agree, but I would pick any Carpenter movie over Halloween or The Fog. Even Ghost of Mars had a campiness to it that I found slightly amusing, but Curtis is just not the muse to Carpenter that Russell is. In fact, I would say she sucks all the interest out of the movie for me. I empathise with you on the remake, I'm a Transformers nerd myself, but at least you had someone with a passion ruining your nerd fantasies. Maybe you have preferred Bay's hand in it. If it will make you happy though here's my geek card. It never did anything for me anyway. Now where's Mirajeff. I need someone to hold me.
ddschneider72 by DocPazuzu	Feb 8th, 2008 08:13:45 AM
Apparently, you've only posted in two talkbacks before, one of which being a Zombie Halloween talkback. Care to comment?
Sledge Hammer by DonnieDorko	Feb 8th, 2008 08:13:59 AM
So you would rather see a Rob Zombie version than a Yimou Zhang version?
Greigy - mygod, you're 100% right by genro	Feb 8th, 2008 08:14:02 AM
It would be Manowar, or some bad version of Frazetta's Fire & Ice, which wasn't that good to begin with. Ugh.
Michael Mann is the best choice by genro	Feb 8th, 2008 08:14:53 AM

Piss on Zombie by m_prevette	Feb 8th, 2008 08:14:54 AM
He's never made a good movie. Ever. He doesn't know how. I guess he's trying but, he just has no talent. Look at Night Of 1000 Corpses...it's really garbage. Halloween was a horrid, misguided attempt at moviemaking. That was clear evidence he has no abilities as a writer or director. He just doesn't. Zombie never has and never will make anything resembling a well crafted genre film. Even his white trash style is an embarrassment. He's worse than Eli Roth - worse LIGHT YEARS WORSE than Paul W.S.Anderson, who Harry has some one-sided dick war with. Zombie is just bad. Plain and simple.
I can tell... by DocPazuzu	Feb 8th, 2008 08:16:14 AM
...that the handling of this project is going to be my big talkback war over the next couple of years, since I love the REH stories so much. Plants, tools, mouthbreathers, illiterates and panterarocks -- beware...
Rob Zombie's Conan O'Brien by ldm882	Feb 8th, 2008 08:18:34 AM

NOOOOOOO! by solartaco3	Feb 8th, 2008 08:19:50 AM
Zombie should only make direct to video/SCFI channel stuff.
DonnieDorko by Sledge Hammer	Feb 8th, 2008 08:22:33 AM
I haven't heard his name associated with Conan, but yes, I would. I have no interest in seeing a wire-fu Conan thank you very much. Don't get me wrong, the guy's a fantastic visualist, but I've yet to connect to any of his films on anything other than a visual level, and even that I find rather repetitive in nature from one film to the next. I know there's a lot of love for films like Hero and House Of Flying Daggers, but what can I say, I'm just not a fan. I fear he'd turn Conan into a fairytale, something that it very much should not be. Conan needs to be gritty and dirty and earthen in nature, and it needs someone who can bring that to the screen. I'm not saying Rob Zombie is the one, like I say I have serious doubts actually, but at least there are elements of true R.E. Howard Conan that I think he would understand and strive to recreate on screen, something I just don't see from many of the other names that have been bandied about. Maybe I'm just crazy, but that's how I see it.
I heard the Jaws music when I read DocPazuzu's post by Lost Jarv	Feb 8th, 2008 08:23:53 AM
And hamsline, my original post to you was meant in jest, so don't be upset. I'm really sorry, but the original Halloween is a classic. It isn't boring (I can't believe you think this)- and is arguably the defining film in it's genre. To say it's worse than Ghosts of Mars is ridiculous. If anything I find Torture Porn dull, and Zombie's redneck style tiresome. I can understand what you mean about passion, but I don't think Zombie had it for Halloween. There's no doubt he has passion, but it is for 70's style dirty horror. It didn't fit Halloween at all. A project someone else suggested that would be perfect for Zombie, would either be an I spit on your grave remake, OR a redux of one of the cannibal movies.
Please no. I'll take Uwe over Rob... by -=Shin=-	Feb 8th, 2008 08:26:08 AM
A lot of people don't understand Howard's universe. Rob Zombie would turn it into heavy metal crap-fest, and that's an image that's way too bastardized. Howard was an armchair archaeologist. He did an awesome job of hypothesizing what early types of world cultures would have been like if they had some kind of romantic past - not unlike Tolkien, but with a more dirt and sweat kind of feel and much less magic. Almost a hyper reality like Batman Begins than a fantasy, if that makes sense. If I had to pick someone, I'd want Guillermo Del Toro, he'd bring a great mix of style and that feeling of 'history' but with his possibility of working on the Hobbit, he may be out of the question.
Wrong, Wrong, Wrong by R H S C	Feb 8th, 2008 08:26:41 AM
No matter how much doubt Rob Zombie benefits from, I just can't see him making a great Conan movie, or even a good one.
Mr. Profit by R H S C	Feb 8th, 2008 08:28:05 AM
Don't say things like that. I can foresee it happening all too easily.
Prob get flamed for this... by DocPazuzu	Feb 8th, 2008 08:29:58 AM
...but David Twohy isn't a bad choice, despite The Chronicles of Riddick. No, seriously, watch the hand-to-hand combat scenes in that film as well as the visualization of the world in that film and tell me he can't realize the vision of a savage, opulent Hyborian world.
Conan film has to... by FlickaPoo	Feb 8th, 2008 08:30:21 AM
...catch some of that great crazy semi-racist, survival of the fittest, mighty limbs forged in the depths of time versus gibbering debased mouth breathers rendered slow by a humid climate sort of thing...if you've read Howard you know what I'm talking about...
And NO... by DocPazuzu	Feb 8th, 2008 08:30:54 AM
...I don't want fucking Vin Diesel as Conan, although he is the right physical type.
I personally love the idea! Its definitely inspired... by Sith Witch	Feb 8th, 2008 08:32:33 AM
Bring on a hard-R Conan!
Stallone to direct!...with a lot of help. by FlickaPoo	Feb 8th, 2008 08:34:04 AM
...just kidding. Sort of.
Finally... by Anna Valerious	Feb 8th, 2008 08:34:18 AM
He might do something other than psychotic white trash movies...
um by Whitemouse	Feb 8th, 2008 08:35:22 AM
can someone go outside, find a really good ORIGINAL idea and put it into a script? PLEASE? Can we stop remaking/sequilising stuff PRETTY PLEASE? oh and Rob Zombie, for Conan? Come off it, give it to Brett Ratner!
Consider this my petition to get Guillermo Del Toro to direct Co by -=Shin=-	Feb 8th, 2008 08:37:43 AM
...
Rob Zombie? Why? by Hervoyel	Feb 8th, 2008 08:39:52 AM
Rob Zombie couldn't direct Rosie O'Donnel to a fucking buffet. Conan doesnt' even need to be remade but if they're going to try and do it this is not the way to go.
Needs an unconventional choice, and this isn't it by Jonah Echo	Feb 8th, 2008 08:40:56 AM
I think Zombie is a poor fit for the job, but I think you have to take a closer look at the source material, and the adaptations that have been made to see why this is. Everyone who thinks a blood drenched, sex filled Conan is the answer here might be able to justify Zombie. If the idea is make an "adult" fantasy, then Zombie might seem edgy enough, but ultimately I think the result will be something more for the teen crowd and unlikely something that fans of the source material will relate to. The books and the comic truly have a sense of pulpy high adventure, and there is as much high energy swashbuckling and mythical storytelling in the Conan legacy as anything else. The Milius film, which most view as a good adaptation of the material worked because you had a filmmaker who took his time, had a strong understanding of the medium and attempted to make each shot look like a painting. There is a tremendous amount of effort, affection and detail in the original film as well as a certain humility in respecting the material and not trying to make "JOHN MILIUS' Conan or OLIVER STONE'S Conan. If Zombie takes this, do you think it will be anything other than Rob Zombie's Conan? And instead of being able to say, this is the Conan movie we waited for, we will be commenting on how Zombie tried hard to make a Conan movie with his particular, and quite frankly, clshing style. He might as well be tapped to remake Steel Magnolias. He prob has a better chance with that. Instead of quickly glancing about at who is hip and cool, or even who made the most recent big fantasy effort(300 and Beowulf are currently the closest big films with Conan's pedigree and theme) it might better to see who has a style or ability that fits with this particular source material. Right now the Russians are turning out some good stuff that has the Conan feel. Execs, look up a movie called Volkodav or The Wolfhound directed by Nikolai Lebedev. He makes a film that is obviously a Conan impersonator, but there is a seperate identity and storytelling there that seperates it and he reaches back into Russian history and older fantasy filmmaking like the stuff Harryhausen was involved in. For me, Volkadov was perfectly pulpy and on a small budget managed visuals equaling those created by Milius or Frazetta. Also, you have to look no further than the current best foreign pictures to Mongol, and director Sergei Bodrov. The visual sweep of the movie and the character development here, as well as the energy displayed would be perfect for a Conan movie. I think if the right resources come together, this could be an even better film than the original, and thats coming from someone who deeply loves the original film. If you need an American for the job, Gore Verbinski could do it. I dont throw his name out simply because he just finished a big fantasy trilogy, but his work is always high quality and appropriate for the project assigned, even when that project might not exactly fly. Bottom line: examine your franchise and find someone who fits. Though we would like to believe so, history has borne out the fact that the best qualified for the job isnt always the one insanely passionate and rabid to do it.
DANIEL CRAIG FOR CONAN...!!!! by Greigy Just Wanted To Say	Feb 8th, 2008 08:45:32 AM
I no I don't mean he's a guest tonight.
Get Ridley Scott...... by travis-dane	Feb 8th, 2008 08:45:34 AM
he could get the "Epic" feel and he knows how to do some good violence.
check out the big brain on Jonah Echo! by FlickaPoo	Feb 8th, 2008 08:47:31 AM

give the guy a break by crimsonsplendor	Feb 8th, 2008 08:50:55 AM
okay, 1000 corpses was an acid-trip clusterfuck, and essentially a rip off of TCM.. until crazy cyborg zombies showed up at the end or something. but it had it's moments. Halloween was bad, but it wasn't like.. Uwe Boll bad. Devil Rejects was a solid film. calling it a fluke when the guy's done, what, three movies seems a little premature. Personally I'd be interested to see what Zombie would do with the story. but he is at two strikes. Really, my only concern would be whether a new Conan movie was done correctly (Read: a hard R rating), or watered down studio pap. They could have god himself direct Conan with his hi-def camera-cock and if the studio cut it down to get a rating less than R it would be an exercise in shit. well, shit and them taking the money of idiots that don't care and fanboys that should know better. I'm not suggesting an R rating is all it will take to make Conan a good movie, but the day word comes down that it's being eyed as a PG-13 summer tentpole is the day i stop giving a fuck about it.
Lost Jarv by hamslime	Feb 8th, 2008 08:51:20 AM
No harm, no foul. I should stress that although I think Zombie would do a good Conan, I woud RATHER he do an original movie. As far as Halloween, for me, blame goes to Curtis. She just bores the hell out of me in Carpenter's movies. The opening scene in Halloween I thought was awesome (I love one shot scenes) but after Curtis shows up I progressively lost interest. Ghost of Mars is not a good movie by any means, but at least it held my attention throughout the whole movie. You can still keep my geek card if you like, and since you're not being a dick, I'll even sign it for you.
oh, and.. by crimsonsplendor	Feb 8th, 2008 08:54:47 AM
what about a Guillermo del Toro directed Conan?
NOOOOOOOOOO! by kafka07	Feb 8th, 2008 08:56:06 AM
Stick to your horror movies, dude. Or go do a guest appearance on Tim & Eric or something.
fair enough Hamsline, we'll agree to differ. by Lost Jarv	Feb 8th, 2008 08:59:26 AM
Cos' we're civilised. And Everything. Ain't no Barbarians in here.
Jonah Echo by DocPazuzu	Feb 8th, 2008 08:59:40 AM
I've seen Wolfhound, and as fun as it is to see a Russian S&S film, it isn't really very good. If it were a western film, we'd all be making fun of it. Also, the visuals in Wolfhound, while competently realized, are a far cry from Frazetta.
Zombie Conan by The Bandit	Feb 8th, 2008 09:01:10 AM
A lot of good points made here guys. Now I'm neither defending or attacking Zombie. Is he the greatest guy in film today? Fuck no, but hes not the worst either. His stuff is hit or miss, and when he hits/misses he does it big. I agree that hes wrong for this project. I dont know who said it but Verbinski I think would be a really cool choice, I could see that working well. Zombie has violence and blood down, but as we know you need more than that to make Conan work. As much as I love the old Conan (and Arnie) the movies never really lived up to the potential of the REH material, due either to the creative choices or lack of technology to properly do it. But with the right director on board and the right man behind the sword we could get some amazing Conan movie goodness. There are horror elements to Conan for sure. Blood and violence for sure but also , fantasy, action, drama -I mean the Conan material has a lot going on. Thats why I like the idea of Gore doing it. I'd love to see Cuaron get ahold of Conan. Zombie's creative, and he needs to branch out and do something non-horror related but this project isnt it.
Sledge Hammer by DonnieDorko	Feb 8th, 2008 09:01:20 AM
Hmm, I see your point. But I think there's a very few directors that can make epic movies. But a lot of them that have tried and failed miserably. But I don't think it takes much talent to make a film violent and gritty. Problem is that I can't think of anyone that I think would make it both epic and truly violent. I'd rather have a Ridley Scott, James Cameron, Peter Jackson or Yimou Zhang grand epic version without the gore than a "Kull the conquerer" 2 with more violence in it.. Because violence and gore are easy, epic fantasy is really, really difficult. Maybe if Ridley teamed up with his brother hehehe..
Rob Zombie would not hack it by mukhtabi	Feb 8th, 2008 09:04:07 AM
Nope, I can't see that working out at all. Conan is simplistic but he's NOT a red neck, nor is he hill billy. And the women he gets involved with are far more interesting that what the Mrs. Zombie would portray. Nope this would not work at all. Uh uh
Really Doc? by Jonah Echo	Feb 8th, 2008 09:04:36 AM
I agree that its low budget and not every single thing works, but some of the scenes, like Volkodav standing in front of the fortress at movie's start with the bat curled around his shoulder? I thought that had a certain beauty to it, as did the sequence where we see Volkodav's background replayed during the campfire song. It wasn't ground-breaking but I think it's far more accomplished than about 80% of the S&S we have had here since Conan.We also shouldn't forget the writers on this. I think what Volkodav, and other fantasies of its ilk lack, is a strong script that isn't just picking the scraps from the table. See Mongol though, and see if you agree with me there.
Oh hell no by critch	Feb 8th, 2008 09:05:05 AM
Who the hell keeps giving this guy a career? After the rejects, the corpses, and the remake, He deserves to go in the corner with Uwe Boll.
On a side note...I am the only person in the world who... by FlickaPoo	Feb 8th, 2008 09:06:00 AM
...kind of liked the live action Beowulf and Grendel? Of course the monster looked fake (in a Quest for Fire sort of way), but once you got past that I really liked the realism and atmosphere of the thing...I think it was the big wide shots and slow cutting pace...it won me over.
Beowulf and Grendel by Jonah Echo	Feb 8th, 2008 09:08:36 AM
No, FlickaPoo, I think B&G was actually a pretty good film, though I think the script on that one didnt always know where it was going. It was slightly revisionist, but its chilly atmosphere and the beauty of the landscapes as well as a decent turn from Butler made it a welcome surprise for me when i caught it on video.
Good. in some ways it meminded me of... by FlickaPoo	Feb 8th, 2008 09:12:24 AM
..."Grendel"...the great John Gardner novel that tells the story from the monster's point of view...
Geek card by hamslime	Feb 8th, 2008 09:15:06 AM
To Lost Jarv: Your understanding and level-headedness is inspiring. Stay loose. -hamslime-
Relax, They're Not Going To Risk a 100 Mill Property by cowboyone	Feb 8th, 2008 09:18:30 AM
... on a dude who calls himself "Zombie" and direct juvenile horror flicks.
Hey! I DIDN'T ISSUE OUT ANY CARDS! by EvilGeek1	Feb 8th, 2008 09:18:57 AM
WTF IS GOING ON!!!! :)
What about John Mc Tiernan? by EvilGeek1	Feb 8th, 2008 09:23:17 AM
I thought he did a good job with The 13th Warrior. Has to be better than Zombie...
oh no, hamsline I can be as insane, unbalanced and irate by Lost Jarv	Feb 8th, 2008 09:27:02 AM
as anyone in here. Don't be fooled. THIS IS TAAAAAAALKBAAAACK
Screw that, man! by mish87	Feb 8th, 2008 09:27:22 AM
Rob Zombie is a douchebag!
i didnt fight in korea to come home by Lloyd Bonafide the Korean War Veteran	Feb 8th, 2008 09:27:56 AM
and see a zombie conan flick!!!
Conan: The Conqueror? by hamslime	Feb 8th, 2008 09:31:30 AM
Is this going to be a remake or a continuation? Maybe let Dolph Lundgren take a stab at it since Ahnold is most likely not going to be Conan. If it's a remake then I vote for Oliver Platt. Anybody see The Ten? Perfect casting.
Oliver Platt? by Lost Jarv	Feb 8th, 2008 09:33:14 AM
that short, tubby clown from Lake Placid? Fuck no.
R.E.H.'s Conan relied heavily on the horror aspect by grampageezer	Feb 8th, 2008 09:33:27 AM
If anyone has ever read Robert E. Howard's Conan, they will remember that there is a lot of horror in the stories. Probably more horror in fact, than fantasy. Might be an interesting take on the hero.
c'mon guys, you know who the other choices are by Spandau Belly	Feb 8th, 2008 09:35:24 AM
You'll get Roland Emmerich or Rob Cohen or Simon West and you'll get a bland boring Lord of the Rings knockoff movie. Or they'll get some arthouse foreign guy, have some producer like Michael Bay hold his hand the whole way through and then when the feature fails blame it all on the foreign guy. At least with Zombie you've got a distinct voice and you might get something that you can get really angry about, or maybe actually like. I could see at most lobbying for Robert Rodriguez, but there's no way a project like this will attract a director that you'll all feel good about.
I would agree if Zombie did fantasy horror by Lost Jarv	Feb 8th, 2008 09:36:21 AM
He doesn't. He does gritty horror. Aesthetically, his style is wrong, and his scope is too limited.
cowboyone by hamslime	Feb 8th, 2008 09:37:14 AM
Are you sure about that? McG seems to get gigs. He hasn't done horror though, at least not in the traditional sense.
Jonah Echo by DocPazuzu	Feb 8th, 2008 09:38:01 AM
Oh, it had inspired moments at times, such as that shot of Wolfhound looking at the castle as well as his ordeal in the mines, but the cheese factor was occasionally overpowering. I like Russian fantasy otherwise, such as author Nick Perumov. I just found Wolfhound to be very derivative and pedestrian at times. Haven's seen Mongol yet so I can't say anything about it one way or the other.
I've no interest in Mongol at all by Lost Jarv	Feb 8th, 2008 09:39:56 AM
and I don't know why. It's bizarre.
R.E.H. & Lovecraft were pals by grampageezer	Feb 8th, 2008 09:40:35 AM
So while we're on the subject, I wonder how Zombie would do with a Lovecraft movie?
Spandau by Lost Jarv	Feb 8th, 2008 09:40:50 AM
I disagree, although Zombie's voice may be distinct it also isn't right. In fact, the reason it is so easy to say he's wrong is that his style is so obvious.
grampageezer by DocPazuzu	Feb 8th, 2008 09:41:01 AM
You're also the guy who said that Christopher Lambert would be a "great" Solomon Kane.
Does Not Seem Like Zombie Material... by HobGoblin	Feb 8th, 2008 09:41:55 AM
BUT... I am SSSSOOOOO sick of the anti-'Halloween' moaning. The man did a reimagining of the film- not a remake. That said, I think he did a fine job giving a different perspective on what Michael's compulsions were and what made him what he was. Was the film flawed? Sure. But people act as if the film was a personal attack. As anyone who has seen '1000' or 'Rejects' can tell you, the man has a great visual style and his love for the genre is evident. I simply think many people feel that to admit they liked 'Halloween' would be to betray some weird 'cool' status. I like his films- 'Halloween' included. Was it Carpenter material? HELL NO. But then it wasn't meant to be, was it? Look, consider yourself lucky Reny Harlen isn't taking meetings to do it. And while you're at it, give Zombie a break. If nothing else, you have to admit that even if you don't care for some of his work, at least the style element is there and he's not afraid to take chances. 'Rejects' is, in my humble opinion, a modern horror classic and Zombie is not done yet... try and remember that he's only 3 films into his career and that he still deserves the benifit of the doubt. By the way, Mort, thanks for the not-so-subtle encouragement for people to bash the Zombie idea. While I also feel that he's not quite the right choice for Conan, that was a little low.
Dear God, LET THIS BE TRUE!!! by gruntybear	Feb 8th, 2008 09:44:04 AM
Just to see the nerd herd tearing at their hair and gnashing their teeth for months on end, crying incessantly about the injustice of it all. The entertainment value will be in the lengths to which the geeknoscenti will go to expres their disgust with the choice. That there's some fine, fine drama.
Nu/Image, at least keep the option open for Schwarzenegger CONAN by ABking	Feb 8th, 2008 09:45:24 AM
Nu/Image, PLEASE keep your options open to one day make KING CONAN with Schwarzenegger and Milius!!!!!!!
Yeah I did..... by grampageezer	Feb 8th, 2008 09:45:25 AM
grampageezer by DocPazuzu Feb 8th, 2008 09:41:01 AM You're also the guy who said that Christopher Lambert would be a "great" Solomon Kane. ================= Yeah, I did, and still do. albeit, a little work on his accent. But the guy that played Marc Antony in Rome, looks alright. I sure hope they don't butcher that one.
HobGoblin by Kloipy	Feb 8th, 2008 09:46:21 AM
i really don't know why you are sticking up for Zombie on Halloween. It was even worse than most of the sequels IMO because he made it sound the the be-all end-all of horror movies. It was boring, trite, didn't get the tone right at all, fucked up the Myer's character. I'd rather have Renny do Conan, at least we would get some crazy shit. But he's probably busy with his Werewolves on the Moon or whatever movie he's working on
HobGoblin by Lost Jarv	Feb 8th, 2008 09:46:23 AM
Fuck off. It was a remake. Live with it. and I have no need to pretend to be cool by feigning indignation at it. I thought it was rotten to the core, a poor, poor version of a genuine classic. Finally, The benefit of the doubt has to be earned> So far from 3 films he has 1 good one. This does not merit the benefit of the doubt.
Renny Harlin would be great for a....... by travis-dane	Feb 8th, 2008 09:46:31 AM
Werewolfes on the Moon movie......will it ever happen......I hope so.
can a movie be seen by a negative # of people? by ironic_name	Feb 8th, 2008 09:51:11 AM
Jeez, no one's gonna watch.
Deep Blue Sea anyone by Kloipy	Feb 8th, 2008 09:51:44 AM
that's a fun ass movie, even Mindhunters has it's moments of greatness
I like Deep Blue Sea by Lost Jarv	Feb 8th, 2008 09:55:42 AM
And I'm not ashamed to say it. Fuck you shark haters.
oh dear lord not Rob Zombie. by Rubbertoes	Feb 8th, 2008 09:55:48 AM
CONAN is HOLY GRAIL. Rob Zombie has not proven himself by doing something "different" yet. ALL RZ films are 70's slasher meets the language and blood of resevoir dogs. That is all he has proven he can do.
Lost Jarv by Spandau Belly	Feb 8th, 2008 09:57:38 AM
What director do think would be both a good and realistic choice? Realistic as in they'd be willing to do this.
Why I am really upset with Rob Zombie by Rubbertoes	Feb 8th, 2008 09:58:07 AM
Before House of 1,000 Corpses was released I saw a really great interview with RZ. He said the thing he liked about the orig. TCM - and what he would like to do for his films, is use all unknown actors. It was more scary - nothing ruins horror like seeing Sarah Michelle Gellar or John Travolta as the lead. So, what does RZ do? He makes 3 movies using ALL OF THE SAME ACTORS. AGAIN and AGAIN...and AGAIN. He's a creature of habit. He's in a comfort zone....he needs to step out of it and re-read some of his old interviews to get inspired like he USED TO BE. Badda-bing! R.Toes
Forget Hollywood's Conan, go for the literary Conan. by grampageezer	Feb 8th, 2008 09:58:10 AM
Personally, I'd prefer any director that shys away from all previous incarnations of Conan except REH's. This includes comic books, movies, and the TV series. Something a little darker, edgier, more suspenseful and less whimsical than what's come before. Conan wasn't a country-bunpkin type hulking brute, but according to Howard's description, had a lean and lithe physique more like a panther's rather than like those of todays bodybuilders.
Please someone kill him... by Guyver1138	Feb 8th, 2008 09:59:20 AM
Maybe he's maturing slowly in film; however, Rob Zombie just screws everything up that he touches. Sure Halloween made money. That was only because of it being a remake of Halloween. Surely the studios can see this and instead or making a passable movie will want a good or great one. A Rob Zombie Conan film will make Pathfinder look absolutely brilliant.
Sid Haig is Conan by Kloipy	Feb 8th, 2008 09:59:24 AM
Zombie wanted to make TCM remake, not Halloween. It's fairly easy to see.
HobGoblin by Rubbertoes	Feb 8th, 2008 10:03:00 AM
I agree I am sick of the moaning too, however I did feel ripped off after spending $9.50 for the movie. I liked the first half - the 2nd half was awful. YES- RZ has a true love for the genre. YES - RZ has talent - but NO I did not like the movie. I own Corpses and Rejects....I love Sid Haig and Bill Moseley - but PLEEEASE don't put them in the next RZ movie. That's why I am mad - RZ has talent - but fails to use it. He is sitting in a comfort zone with his lead lady wife, and a group of actors he keeps recycling. If you're not gonna use unknowns atleast grab a group of people from the 80's that time has forgotten and reignite their star power.
Lost- Have some decaf... by HobGoblin	Feb 8th, 2008 10:03:19 AM
What the hell was that? 'Fuck off'?? Yeah... good to meet you, too. Is this how you repsond to people who have a differing opinion? You didn't like the film. I respect that. I did- I think you're big enough to live with that, no? As for you feining anything, I so do not remember naming you. Again, taking this a little too personal. I was simply stating that I have spoken to many fans who were and are Carpenter fans about thier dislike of 'Halloween' this last time around and many of them admitted that they just wanted to defend Carpenter. So, if you are not in that category, great- but lets not act like I attacked you here. Look, I'm not here for a flame war with you. Again, I respect your opinion. I DO NOT agree with your remake opinion, but you and I should sleep just fine agreeing to disagree, I think. Also, in the Hollywood of today, one film that made its mark out of three is not a bad average, and if you're like me and enjoyed his last film, then 2 out of three is certainly not bad. ALl that being said, I, too would rather the Carpenter version any day. I just enjoyed the addition of a new part to the mythology. Still, Zombie brought part of this on himself. As Kloipy said, he DID make it sound like it was the end-all be-all and that WAS a bad call.
Neil Marshall (Joke) by Lost Jarv	Feb 8th, 2008 10:03:44 AM
well partly. To be honest, I'm not sure. I could see George Miller doing a good job.
Let Sam Firstenberg direct. by hamslime	Feb 8th, 2008 10:05:13 AM
Anyone who can go from American Ninja to Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo can certainly amend their style to fit a Conan movie. Besides, since Oliver Platt is the obvious choice to replace Ahnold, Michael "Boogaloo Shrimp" Chambers would be a good pairing with Platt to replace Grace Jones. But what do I know? I'm not a casting director, and this is probably why. Or just get Jon Mikl Thor as Conan. He still kept his shape.
Awful idea by slone13	Feb 8th, 2008 10:05:49 AM
Truly
So the producers will read these notes from us fans ? by ABking	Feb 8th, 2008 10:06:41 AM
Well, I remember at the RAMBO premiere--LIONSGATE producers and Nu/Image owner Avi Lerner were there--that Arnold Schwarzenegger was talking to many of the producers and Lerner himself. Could they have possibly talked about one day making some films with Arnie when he comes back? Arnie will need work if he comes back and Lionsgate and Avi Lerner are action producers and studio. Could Arnie have set up one day making that older CONAN film with them. I mean, maybe REH fans can get a new more faithful young Conan film but maybe also the KING CONAN script can get picked up by Lionsgate and Avi Lerner from WARNER BROTHERS so Arnie can make his last epic Conan film with John Milius. That would be the smartest thing for money hungry filmmakers and producers. It's SMART business!!!
Stallone directing Conan by Jonah Echo	Feb 8th, 2008 10:08:20 AM
with Stallone playing Conan, as the old washed up warrior. That would burn your brain, and yet most of us would pay to see it.
ABKing by HobGoblin	Feb 8th, 2008 10:11:12 AM
Well said- Id pay to see that. Still, maybe it would be nice for King Conan to have a revamp- like Csino Royale... grittier like the comic.
Crom is going to drive a Camaro by I_Snake_Plissken	Feb 8th, 2008 10:12:52 AM
I love the original Conan, but I would love to see this. I don’t think it would be a good movie by any stretch, but it would be utterly fascinating to watch – it would be like having David Fincher remake “Little Miss Sunshine.” Like it or not, Zombie has some level of skill when depicting violence on the screen, and for the subject matter there are a bunch of bland directors out there that would try to go for a very straightforward approach to the material. At least zombie would take it someplace interesting. Without Schwarzenegger the film is going to be DOA anyway, so at least let the train wreck be fun to watch. Based on the The Devil’s Rejects, I think Zombie does have some level of raw talent, and he certainly has style. It’s one of the reasons I somewhat enjoyed the Halloween remake – and I’m a Carpenter purist in the biggest way. The remake was an absolutely bizarre experience – how Zombie could have thought that anybody who was not familiar with the source material could have understood what was going on was beyond me. But in terms of sheer entertainment value, I would place it behind Halloween II, H20, possibly IV and III (in that order – I have a soft spot for III because of the Silver Shamrock commercials) but it was certainly better than the other horrendous sequels – at least zombie chose to eschew the druidic nonsense that started in part V. And yes, I’ve paid a little too much attention to the Halloween sequels over the years, it’s a sickness I know – don’t worry, I’m seeking treatment
Hmm, Hobgoblin by Lost Jarv	Feb 8th, 2008 10:13:03 AM
You don't seem to be au fait with TB Profanity. Don't take it to heart. Regarding the feigning thing- that hit a nerve because It is impossible to refute- if you think about it, any response I give is an "Only the true messiah" reply. To put ZOmbie's strike rate into context, arguably the worst director working today is PWS Anderson. His first 3 films were Shopping (which is good), Event Horizon, (also good) and MOrtal Kombat (crap). Therefore, he deserved the benefit of the doubt far more than Zombie.
Lost Jarv Deep Blue Sea by hamslime	Feb 8th, 2008 10:14:57 AM
I believe we can actually agree on that.
McTiernan!! by zombiezeus	Feb 8th, 2008 10:15:06 AM
John McTiernan has directed some duds, sure, but he's also directed two of the most exciting and well-crafted action movies of all time--Die Hard and Predator. He should do Conan, whether he's in jail or not. Though I'm still holding out hope he'll get out of prison and then do Die Hard 5: Hard Time, where McClane has to escape a high-security prison.
RubberToes by HobGoblin	Feb 8th, 2008 10:15:36 AM
I have to admit you make some good points. RZ is in a comfort zone and he does need to inject some new blood (pardon the pun) into his vision. Its odd- some people like Taratino can come up with a running list of actors that will work in almost any combination and others... well, they need to go back to the well. That being said, I do think Sherri Zombie gets a bad rap... though if she does 'that' laugh one more time I might kill her, too.
Event Horizon kicked arse! by EvilGeek1	Feb 8th, 2008 10:16:18 AM
DO YOU SEE?????????
Dont' see the sense in arguing against Zombie by Jonah Echo	Feb 8th, 2008 10:16:44 AM
or for him for that matter. Id prefer to not see him do Conan, but it wont be the end of the world. It might be interesting. By the time it is released, we will be able to tell, and if it looks horrible Ill just skip it entirely. I think a better use of the time than zombie vs. not-zombie is suggesting approaches or directors that would be a good fit for the material. Im not sure Zombie qualifies as a good fit, but it seems more constructive to make an argument for who does, than why Zombie doesn't.
Mel Gibson should do it. by TELF	Feb 8th, 2008 10:18:58 AM
But he won't, of course. I think the best choice would be Miller now that JLA is stalled. I think Peter Berg was interested at one point too. I reckon they could all do a good job.
If you get Gibson by Jonah Echo	Feb 8th, 2008 10:19:42 AM
no worries about a PG-13.
FUCK YOU JARV! by travis-dane	Feb 8th, 2008 10:20:42 AM
Mortal Kombat was great!;-)
And one more thing.. by I_Snake_Plissken	Feb 8th, 2008 10:22:01 AM
A Zombie directed Conan couldn’t be any worse than Conan the Destroyer. At least this version won’t have Wilt Chamberlain or Grace Jones.
how about Nobody for Conan by Kloipy	Feb 8th, 2008 10:23:28 AM
do we need this movie in the first place?
Red Nails by JackNF	Feb 8th, 2008 10:25:04 AM
Screw the live-action stuff, when the hell is Red Nails coming out? They've been working on that animated feature for a couple years now, IMDB says they're in post-production, when are we getting a release announcement already?!?
How about.. by DonnieDorko	Feb 8th, 2008 10:25:28 AM
Zack Snyder? I could see him easily go a bit darker and grittier and make a great Conan-movie.. no?
LOST... by HobGoblin	Feb 8th, 2008 10:26:35 AM
Glad we can agree to disagree. As for hitting a nerve with you, if I had known you were the Messiah I never would have argued! :) While we do not agree on RZ's track record, there is NO WAY I will argue against your PWS Anderson remark- dead on. Still Jonah makes a good point... since we all agree RZ is not the right guy, who is?
Kloipy by hamslime	Feb 8th, 2008 10:31:40 AM
That's crazy talk, but I'll be damned if it's not the truth.
Mel Gibson?...hadn't thought of that.... by FlickaPoo	Feb 8th, 2008 10:33:04 AM
...man knows a bloody revenge story...he would be a good fit with Howard's Darwinian supremacist type world view too.. He would probably be too realistic though. Never happen anyway. Interesting though...
POOTIE TANG for Conan........ by travis-dane	Feb 8th, 2008 10:36:23 AM
make it for $1789 and give the rest to me.Thanks.
for all you MST3K fans out there by Kloipy	Feb 8th, 2008 10:37:50 AM
just rewatched their skewering of Hobgoblins last night, so I checked IMDB and found out that Rick Sloane will be working on his Masterpiece, Hobgoblins 2. Maybe we could get a Misty reunion for this occasion
Lost Jarv vs. HobGoblin by hamslime	Feb 8th, 2008 10:38:11 AM
I'm sensing a bit of dejavu here. I also predict the name George Miller to be brought up in the near future.
Javier Bardem as Conan by Kloipy	Feb 8th, 2008 10:40:41 AM
whoever said that Del Toro should direct this needs to stop. I like Del Toro, but it seems that recently everyone wants him to direct everything that comes out. I just want Mountains of Madness, so please don't give him any further ideas and steal away my HP dreams damn you
sigh, I need to see that. by Lost Jarv	Feb 8th, 2008 10:42:10 AM
IT sounds fabulous. But will it be as good as troll 2 NILBOG! NILBOG! NILBOG
Lost Vs. Hobgoblin??? by HobGoblin	Feb 8th, 2008 10:42:53 AM
Yeah... that was helpful... Look, Lost can't be that bad. First, the beginning of his screen name matches my fave t.v. show and secondly, he blasted PWS Anderson. He is growing on me!
HobGoblin, I don’t need “cool status.” by TheLastCleric	Feb 8th, 2008 10:42:58 AM
Taste and common sense mean more to me. I enjoyed The Devil’s Rejects and despite it’s failings I saw the potential in House of Corpses but Halloween was tripe; the worst kind of irrelevant filmmaking. Zombie’s “reimagining” was completely unnecessary as the original holds up remarkably well. Everything he added and changed damaged the mythos. The family stuff was garbage, Loomis became a useless ancillary character, and Laurie and her annoying, shrill friends became fodder in much the same way a thousand mindless bimbo’s have perished at the hands of Jason. Even when removed from the original it was a poor film and the fact that it dons the Halloween name makes it something more akin to that travesty of a Psycho remake by Gus Van Sant. And if you think it’s merely a remake thing, consider that I rather enjoyed the TCM remake.
If it is miller by Lost Jarv	Feb 8th, 2008 10:42:59 AM
then I want the credit for calling it first, Because I'm sad and I need the affirmation.
Well "if all the right people are listening" by TELF	Feb 8th, 2008 10:44:04 AM
I'm putting myself in the running to play Conan! Watch these: http://tinyurl.com/ynjj94 http://tinyurl.com/25aj7w Hmmmmm? Hmmmmm?
Jarv, nothing is better than Troll 2 and the perils by Kloipy	Feb 8th, 2008 10:44:47 AM
of Nilbog. the scene where the little boy takes a piss on the dinner food is one of the most beautiful images ever commited to the silver screen
Lost Jarv... by TELF	Feb 8th, 2008 10:45:38 AM
By all means. It's the least you deserve!
Takashi Miike can do it.. by Jonah Echo	Feb 8th, 2008 10:46:44 AM
It will be filled with blood, imagination and it will be released next week, with three sequels by Christmas.
And while Im not persay suggesting them.. by Jonah Echo	Feb 8th, 2008 10:49:11 AM
Weren't the Wachowski's at one point involved in Conan? I'm not really sure Id want them either, but if this is supposed to be a revamp, and its a big franchise, would they be considered if interested? Maybe it depends on how well Speed Racer does(which I have little hope for).
A Real Conan Movie Needs to be Made by TheLastCleric	Feb 8th, 2008 10:49:27 AM
The Arnold/Millis film got more wrong than right, the sequel was for kids and the TV show was so awful it was actually pretty funny. The REAL Conan is an interesting character as his brutality and barbarism is contrasted by his analytical, strategic mind and his own deep sense of ethics and morality. He's a baddass with substance and so much more than a muscle-head swinging a sword.
Hmmm by DonnieDorko	Feb 8th, 2008 10:49:30 AM
Not any reaction at all on Zack Snyder? Too easy? No?
Stallone by NoahTall	Feb 8th, 2008 10:50:15 AM
Get Stallone to direct. He has proven he knows how to make a visceral action film that centers around a single hero.
Nice! Zombie's an excellent choice for CONAN. by LoneGun	Feb 8th, 2008 10:50:50 AM
Here's a director who won't shy away from violence and sexuality and who has a great visual style. His films are filled with many of the freakish, wild characters one would find in a CONAN comic book. Remember Mother Butterfly from THE DEVIL'S REJECTS? An evil witch, who could have been ripped right from the pages of CONAN. Rob Zombie is an inspired choice, an appropriate one. (Unlike Joe Johnstone for THE WOLFMAN.)
Richard Kelly by crimsonsplendor	Feb 8th, 2008 10:50:53 AM
everyone's still jumping on the 'i'd have my balls cut off before i accepted a Zombie directed Conan'.... but where's your hate for Richard Kelly? his first movie is a cult classic. then he released the directors cut that was, like everything he's done that's not Donnie Darko, shit. What about Michael Bay's complete inability to direct anything worth watching at any point in his career? The downward spiral of John Woo? The fact that they'd even sit down with Rob Zombie about a Conan movie at the very least means the studio is willing to take chances with the property. Which is a good thing. To expect any artist, regardless of their medium to consistently turn out masterpieces is ridiculous. And attempting to have your own voice and take chances, even if it's a failure is far more admirable than creating an easily forgotten slice of average.
On Guillermo Del Toro as a choice... by -=Shin=-	Feb 8th, 2008 10:51:15 AM
The man loves Lovecraftian lore and mythology, and Howard and Lovecraft were old pen pals. Howard tended to mix in that horror element of Lovecraft's into Conan fairly often. Howard's 'magic' tended to reflect Lovecraftian mythology as opposed to what might be seen as more traditional, like LOTR or D&D. Del Toro would definitely understand that aspect. And we know Del Toro can create some very interesting and strange worlds that seem to have a tangible history, but also create environments that feel natural. Conan's got to feel like it came from cultures that you recognize from antiquity, but you can't quite place. I think he could certainly get the aesthetic of the Hyborean age on film. Not to mention, I think Guillermo is fascinated with crafty Characters. The literary Conan was a cunning, clever motherfucker. He read and spoke several languages and had a number of trades over the span of his stories. He wasn't a brain numb, berserker viking who was unbeatable - He was Nietzche's Everyman. He used every aspect of himself to make his own way in his world and the end result was that he was king. Anyway, I think Guillermo would kick it's unholy ass.
...Mother Firefly... by LoneGun	Feb 8th, 2008 10:51:58 AM
...is who I meant. Oops.
TheLastCleric by HobGoblin	Feb 8th, 2008 10:52:19 AM
Taste and common sense are both subjective. Look, myself and Lost Jarv have just been through this conversation. If you hated the film, well, HUZZAH! Some people disagree with you. No, no, really... some do. Hard to imagine, I know. :) See, its odd- cause I thought the TMC remake was ASS. But you're right, that does prove you are no mere 'feining fan boy'... you have an open mind. That's good. I do, too- thats why I enjoyed RZ's 'Halloween'. To each his own, Cleric. We cant all agree on everything... which is why I propose we all just agree with me!!! ...okay, admittedly bad idea...
D.Darko - Snyder by crimsonsplendor	Feb 8th, 2008 10:53:15 AM
Zack Snyder could do an incredible job of Conan, visually at least. But I'd love to see him move away from remakes/adaptations and rock people with an original story.
Actually, Snyder isn't a bad idea by Lost Jarv	Feb 8th, 2008 10:53:32 AM
depending on what he does with Watchmen
TheLastCleric - well said mate! by -=Shin=-	Feb 8th, 2008 10:53:34 AM
nt
Not the best choice by Vern	Feb 8th, 2008 10:54:10 AM
but a hell of alot better than I expected. Remember, Millennium Films' output so far is 93% DTV crap, 2% intended-for-theaters-but-went -DTV crap, %2 BLUE DAHLIA and WICKER MAN, 2.5% DTV Seagal, and .5% RAMBO. So the fact that Zombie has done one and a half or so good movies and has a unique style is a fuckin miracle. But I bet they won't give it to him. They'll give it to someone worse with a regular last name like Smith, Jones or W.S. Anderson so you guys won't be as mad.
George Miller's CONAN by hamslime	Feb 8th, 2008 10:54:12 AM
Executive Producer: Lost Jarv , Written By: Drew McWeeny, Starring: TIFF as Conan. Now get to work people! Make me proud.
Mel Gibson by Rubbertoes	Feb 8th, 2008 10:54:20 AM
I actually think Mel Gibson is a great idea. Maybe it'll inspire him to make a great Mad Max 4. Or atleast another movie based on that world...with or w/o him as the lead. Of course he'd have to ditch the beard and get in shape...but he can do it!
I was a big White Zombie fan by Pariah74	Feb 8th, 2008 10:55:49 AM
And when Zombie went solo I realized he left all of the talent behind too. What has he done that is original? He's stolen every single idea he's ever had...not been influenced by ideas, not paid homage to...no he steals ideas and regurgitates them. I agree the director should be JOHN MILIUS!! I have only read one R.E. Howard book but I have every single issue of the Savage Sword of Conan magazines. Ernie Chan was GOD! One thing I alway loved about that universe was how there were dragons and magic and all the fantasy trappings but they often had a real world streak in them. The "dragons" would turn out to be dinosaurs and stuff like that. And the racism, macho posturing and the glorious sexism. This movie needs to be completely offensive to damn near everyone!
Rob zombie will get it, cause Rob zombie makes Hollywood money by mrfantomashawk	Feb 8th, 2008 10:56:39 AM
look at robs track record so far House of 1000 Corpses budget: 7,000,000 Gross: $16,829,545 (Worldwide) The Devil's Rejects budget: $7,000,000 Gross: $19,390,029 (Worldwide) Halloween Budget: $20,000,000 Gross: $58,272,029 (USA cant fund worldwide yet) He has a rabid fan base and is gaining recognition. I would be more worried about who they chose to BE Conan rather then who directs it.
My bad by hamslime	Feb 8th, 2008 10:56:56 AM
TELF not TIFF.
ROB ZOMBIE - AMERICA'S OWN UWE BOLL. by Pennsy	Feb 8th, 2008 11:00:10 AM

Rob Zombie set to remake Carnosaur 3 by Kloipy	Feb 8th, 2008 11:00:45 AM
the t-rex calls everyone limp-dick faggots
I think someone interested in fantasy over action is best by Jonah Echo	Feb 8th, 2008 11:00:45 AM
It would be fine to have an action oriented director, but someone with a flair for the truly fantastic, I think would help this immensely. Since a strong, character driven, action oriented script is gonna be whats needed to make this work at all, I think focusing on a director who can really create a world and embue it with convincing inhabitants is what this needs. That might mean looking beyond even the usual crop of fantasy/horror directors.
Maybe its time for a Rob Zombie romantic comedy? by Mopak	Feb 8th, 2008 11:00:47 AM
Wouldn't that be interesting? We all know Rob is reading this thread. Yeah, I think he can pull of Conan, but I'd rather see some original Zombie material, particularly science fiction.
Nooooooooo!!!! by Steve Rogers	Feb 8th, 2008 11:01:32 AM
Rob Zombie's movies stink. Even the Devil's Rejects, which I know a lot of people on here were into, has huge problems. 1000 Corpses and Halloween licked the sweat from a dead donley's cock. DO NOT GIVE HIM CONAN!!!!
Hi, studio snoops. Can I just say, FUCK PLEASE NO DEAR GOD! by Kubla_Khan	Feb 8th, 2008 11:02:10 AM
...I still want to see King Conan: Crown Of Thorns. What I DON'T want is to see Conan played by some J-lister from WWE and a plot where he gets catapaulted into the modern world and has to fight a mystical evil who has possessed the leader of a gang of bikers. Shit - I think I just gave Uwe Boll the plot for his next film...
Zombie? Would it be worse than Conan the Destroyer? No. by Stereotypical Evil Archer	Feb 8th, 2008 11:02:44 AM
Conan the Destroyer sucks. But Milius' Conan was a masterpiece.
Rob Zombie's The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants by Kloipy	Feb 8th, 2008 11:04:01 AM
"you fuckin' girls are bunch of hairlip dykes! fuckin' lezzy pants!" cue shot of a store called Anal Playground
Can we steer Hollywood away from classic weird fantasy? by kevred	Feb 8th, 2008 11:04:21 AM
Seriously...just keep them away from Howard, Lovecraft, and Moorcock. Right now Hollywood seems hell-bent on ruining any classic property it can get its hands on. I've been listening to an Elric audiobook recently, and it's reminded me how brilliant that era of fantasy was, and I shuddered to think of what Hollywood would do to it. If they're not willing to go all the way to LOTR lengths on this stuff, they should just stay away from it. Period. And if they go anywhere near Lankhmar, it'll be time for torches & pitchforks...
Rob can remake Red Sonja by Jonah Echo	Feb 8th, 2008 11:05:00 AM
His wife could play the leader. He could even throw Brigitte Nielson in there somewhere-maybe as Conan in a cameo. Flava Flav could be a cave-dwelling thing of some type.
Good point by DonnieDorko	Feb 8th, 2008 11:05:10 AM
Who could play the part? Arnold sure could pull off the look, (or was it just my age and the era that makes me think he looked perfect for it?) Is there any actor that could live up to the character within Arnolds big shadow? And could anyone pull off that freakin hair again?
that should have said lead not leader by Jonah Echo	Feb 8th, 2008 11:05:47 AM
oops
Rob Zombie's The Wheel of Time by Kloipy	Feb 8th, 2008 11:06:08 AM
it's only one movie, 89mins, ends with a montage to the tune of "Wheels in the Sky keeps on Turnin'"
hamsline by TELF	Feb 8th, 2008 11:06:25 AM
Actually, TIFF is good too. "This Summer... TIFF is MIFFED" "CONAN" "Only in Theatres".
Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson for Conan by Kloipy	Feb 8th, 2008 11:06:59 AM

"dead donley's cock" by DonnieDorko	Feb 8th, 2008 11:07:56 AM
Was a sad little rooster who starved to death.
Ving Rhames by DonnieDorko	Feb 8th, 2008 11:11:51 AM
With long blonde hair as Conan, the barbershopian.
Conan the Barbarian is one of my all time favorites by hktelemacher	Feb 8th, 2008 11:12:41 AM
and Howard's stories were sometimes great but Conan is not this untouchable holy grail. If it were names like Mel Gibson wouldn't be getting any positive response. Of all the fantasy choices listed here very few are anything interesting. What project isn't Del Toro's name bandied about by the tb'ers these days? Not everything should be a Zack Snyder joint. And McTiernan? Please. At the very least a Rob Zombie directed Conan (which will most likely never see the light of day) would be something different. Something ballsier than what Verbinski would ever do with it. Zombie's aborted Crow script had a Conan vibe to it, among lots of other influences, and honestly - even if it fails (and for me there are really redeeming successes in all of Zombie's films so far that far outweigh their failings, just me) I'd rather see something challenging than a predictable Conan movie. If we can't get an official Milius/Arnold effort at least grab a director a little outside the box of expectations.
Eddie Kay Thomas is CONAN by Kloipy	Feb 8th, 2008 11:12:41 AM

If the "right people" really are listening... by Fireball XL-5	Feb 8th, 2008 11:13:08 AM
...and if Zombie truly does want to do this, I say it's a great idea. He's a conceptual heavyweight with a fan's love and enthusiasm for genre material. Trust him to turn-in something meaty, thunderous and very cool.
Zombie wrote a 'Crow' script? by Kloipy	Feb 8th, 2008 11:13:52 AM
Dear God, get him out of this business now!
Not a sequal or remake? by DOGSOUP	Feb 8th, 2008 11:14:38 AM
A Prequal then?
Conan the King by DonnieDorko	Feb 8th, 2008 11:17:04 AM
With Shia LaBeouf as his son is a terrible idea...
Mr. Zombie's Live Action 'Heavy Metal' remake by ArcadianDS	Feb 8th, 2008 11:17:24 AM
Thats what this would become. A live-action remake of Heavy Metal that has its carnal way with the Conan franchise. And I have nothing againts any proposed live-action Heavy Metal remakes - that would be perfect for Mr. Zombie. But the Conan franchise is not for him.
John Alvin passed away...Harry where's the tribute? by StudioPlant69	Feb 8th, 2008 11:21:03 AM

Well at least it won't be PG-13 by kikuchiyoboy	Feb 8th, 2008 11:21:44 AM
Hopefully he'll expand on his style and bring something epic and different.
hmmm by DonnieDorko	Feb 8th, 2008 11:24:54 AM
Shia Labeof- "I thought you were a librarian?" Conan - "Part time!" Conan - "No I meant barbarian, I'm a barbarian - part time."
TELF, I like it. by hamslime	Feb 8th, 2008 11:30:23 AM
Maybe change your name and do action-porn. TIFF gets STIFF... and when he does he fucks the shit out of everything. The government bring in Peter "The Condom" Justice to pull off the biggest cover-up in american history. And when TIFF is finally thrown in the rubber room, he finds a leak and goes to wreak havok on that smelly cunt that's had him on lock-down for all this time.
Too bad Mako is dead by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Feb 8th, 2008 11:31:43 AM
His part sucked balls in Conan the Destroyer, but he was awesome in CTB. Then again, when was Mako not awesome. Forget Rumble in the Bronx, the first US Jackie Chan movie The Big Brawl was great. Mako was his Uncle/teacher, and kicked ass.
Terrible by Shakeshift	Feb 8th, 2008 11:32:47 AM
Rob Zombie is good as a musician, but his movies are all pretty terrible. This movie requires a great director, not one who redefines 'tedious' with every movie to escape out of his 12-year old imagination. Oh, and Sheri Moon Zombie as a skanky southern-rock Red Sonja would suck even worse than Bridgette Nielsen, and THAT is saying something.
hktelemacher by crimsonsplendor	Feb 8th, 2008 11:36:30 AM
i think talkbackers throw Del Toro and Snyder around so much because they're both directors that (so far) have shown tremendous respect and enthusiasm for the material they adapt, as well as being two directors that understand how to stay faithful to what made the original property loved/respected, while bringing something fresh to what they're doing. They both also happen to have incredibly beautiful and unique visual styles (on that level i'd put them in the top 5% of western directors). They also seem to have a knack for getting the most out of their budget. I definitely agree with you that a Zombie directed conan would be a different beast, as well as balls-out.
Verhoeven for Conan! by Sledge Hammer	Feb 8th, 2008 11:37:13 AM
Watch Flesh + Blood again, then imagine what the guy could do with 100 million dollar budget. Verhoeven likes tits and blood and dark humour and being a subversive little fucker, and has a great visual sensibility to boot. He'd be perfect for a proper R.E. Howard take on Conan. That's who has my vote anyway. Oh, and DonnieDorko, I see your points pal, but I just don't see James Cameron or Ridley Scott doing a Conan film...although, seriously, I'd be more than happy to be proven wrong. Cameron and Scott, if they're truly interested in something, rarely put a foot wrong. I still like the idea of Verhoeven most of all though.
Fair Enough, HobGoblin by TheLastCleric	Feb 8th, 2008 11:40:18 AM
I think Zombie needs to stick to original IP's. Calling his film a Halloween remake or reimagining,by it very definition, forces comparisons to the original. I think Zombie has talent but I also think he needs to expand beyond the whole trailer trash backwater redneck thematic, which was especially out of place in the Halloween remake. I'm interested to see his followup project but I sincerely hope it's not Conan; I think he's simply the wrong person for the project.
As long as it pisses off dorks I'm happy! by ThornBalls	Feb 8th, 2008 11:43:51 AM

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooo by freerangecelt	Feb 8th, 2008 11:45:00 AM
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooo Crom. Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Dogsoup, I think what they mean by TheLastCleric	Feb 8th, 2008 11:48:06 AM
by not a remake is not a remake of the Millis/Arnold films of the 1980's. Those movies diverged heavily from the original source material and basically they did their own thing with the character. This new project seems like a much more accurate and adult take on the material which means they want to distance it from the older films.
Verhoeven by DonnieDorko	Feb 8th, 2008 11:52:55 AM
Could be interesting, love alot of his work but he sure likes to twist some of it to soak of satire. Which works great in Robocop and Starship troopers (where he also showed that he could make good cgi, something very unique, compare that to the crap-cgi in I AM LEGEND for example) but I haven't quite forgiven him for HOLLOW MAN yet.. Hmm, I think it was on this site I read about it going to be gritty and dark as hell, and the fx-guys were studying all these anatomybooks to get all the intestines right etc.. hmmm, that means I must've been here since 1999 or so.. weird. But I've missed Flesh+Blood and will go see it as soon as possible. I almost suggested Wolfgang Petersen as an alternative but I know that would be shit. It would be shit by the book, but still shit. He should do political/juridicial thrillers and I should be his agent.
Well, if they really are listening... by Theta	Feb 8th, 2008 11:53:25 AM
No. Zombie directs a certain kind of film and honestly I don't really see his work as being of a quality beyond that. Of the realistic possibilities, I'd recommend Neil Marshall or, if you can keep him on a leash, Christophe Gans.
Rob Zombie couldnt direct traffic... by JimmyJoe RedSky	Feb 8th, 2008 11:57:15 AM
Zombie's directing is almost as bad as his music - isnt Milius still around? - if Zack Snyder wasnt busy with Watchmen, hed be a good choice - or the danish guy that directed Pathfinder
I'm surprised... by Rakafraker	Feb 8th, 2008 12:00:08 PM
..that no-one on here was thinking maybe a mocap Conan would be cool. The things that they could do... Remember the Frazetta painting come to life that we were promised? Especially with the magic scenes, and of course the action would be ram-jam packed with impossible (in real life) stunts and crazy stuff like that. Too bad Brad Bird couldn't make it. sigh If only...
No matter how you feel about the guy, by TVguy4566	Feb 8th, 2008 12:02:03 PM
I don't know how you can argue that Zombie is the right fit for this movie. The guy has a certain style, genre, and actors he likes use in his movies. It really didn't fit Halloween and it definitely doesn't fit Conan. I personally do feel that I can separate the original from a re-imagination even for classics like Halloween, but no matter how you slice it Zombie's Halloween just sucked. In fact, I think he was hamstrung by the whole Halloween story. He really didn't want to remake Halloween rather than wanted to do a movie about a true psychopath and tried to force fit it into the Halloween story. He would have made a better movie if he created his own original characters (kinda did, but used Halloween characters to force fit them) and didn't have to folow the Halloween plot (which he rushed through in the second half of the movie barely even setting up some of the characters

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