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‘It Doesn’t Scatter Quite Right!!’
Herc Loves On Tonight’s LOST!!

second by townshend	Feb 7th, 2008 05:23:16 AM
lost is awe-inspiring.
Oh yes!! by theBigE	Feb 7th, 2008 05:27:28 AM
This sounds great!
EW's warmup for 4.02 by theBigE	Feb 7th, 2008 05:28:27 AM
Right here: http://tinyurl.com/27slmr No huge spoilers, just cryptic messages and an interview with Jorge/Hurley.
More Matthew Abbadon? by theBigE	Feb 7th, 2008 05:29:46 AM
I'm creeped out already!
"the weakest “Lost” season premiere" by newc0253	Feb 7th, 2008 05:33:53 AM
yeah, i agree. but if, you think about it, none of the other premieres followed on from a finale with such a massive reveal. To put it another way, the reveals at the end of season 1 (the Others snatch Walt) and season 2 (Swan Station blows up) were easily weaker than the season 3 finale. The real suprises (what was actually in the Hatch, the Others village) came in the followups.
WHEN WILL THIS SHIT TV SERIES END? by Spoiler_Man	Feb 7th, 2008 05:40:52 AM
The terrorists have already won. We are destroying ourselves with crap. Remember the days when tv was good? Look at Lost and you'll see how far away those days are.
If Bringingsexyback was a tv show he would be Lost by Spoiler_Man	Feb 7th, 2008 05:48:47 AM
I.e Pointless and annoying. And shit.
If FlyinHawaiian were a TV show it would be called... by BetaRayBill07	Feb 7th, 2008 06:30:38 AM
Short Bus USA!!
"Loves On"? by Aquatarkusman	Feb 7th, 2008 06:36:47 AM
[gag]
Why troll??? by obiwayne	Feb 7th, 2008 06:46:03 AM
If you hate the damned series so much, why come in here and even read the post...much less take time to post it.
great show by rocket_boy	Feb 7th, 2008 06:53:12 AM
Best thing on TV by a distance ! If Spoiler_Man was a tv show he would be Grey's Anatomy i.e cynical and moany. And girly.
12 hours to go... by Fawst	Feb 7th, 2008 06:58:44 AM
Can't wait!
When will... by maxwell's hammer	Feb 7th, 2008 07:09:21 AM
...Spoiler Man spontaneously combust in his sleep? It's long overdue.
Spoiler_Man by nalapou	Feb 7th, 2008 07:28:12 AM
dies of AIDS... That'd be great... best show on tv by a mile.
If Spoiler_Man were a TV show... by Happyfat73	Feb 7th, 2008 07:36:44 AM
He would've been cancelled after the pilot.
If spoiler man was on lost by Mr_X	Feb 7th, 2008 07:44:56 AM
He'd be TASG
Adam and Eve by Captain Hollywood	Feb 7th, 2008 08:10:48 AM
There's a theory that "Adam and Eve" are in fact Desmond and Penny.
"weakest "Lost" season premiere" by Agent Johnson	Feb 7th, 2008 08:10:48 AM
Are you kidding me? I think it may be the best. I've never seen a show that didn't skip a beat from the previous season ender like this one. It was like a continuation, yet you feel the show has turned a corner, heading to an ultimate final. It really felt like a glimpse on what is to come from here on out. It seemed like every segment had a WTF? moment. Can't wait to see what's next on this show.
Adam and Eve by Agent Johnson	Feb 7th, 2008 08:12:37 AM
Watch in the first season when Adam and Eve are first found. They have those black and white rocks on them. Jack puts those rocks in his pocket. Maybe they're still there? Maybe he still has them? I think that Adam is Jack.
saying 4.1 was the 'weakest' Lost season premiere... by newc0253	Feb 7th, 2008 08:33:20 AM
...doen't mean that it was bad. I thought 4.1 was very good and i agree it was essentially a very smooth continuation from 3.22. But it certainly didn't have anything like the major reveals that we got in 2.1 or 3.1. Again, I don't think that's a bad thing. But it is a departure from the 'tradition' (such as it is) of finding out something really big in each season opener.
Was last week’s episode the weakest “Lost” season premiere to da by JBouganim1	Feb 7th, 2008 08:40:05 AM
And you say yes? ARE YOU ON CRACK!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AM SO FUCKIN TEMPTED TO READ THAT SPOILER POST by JBouganim1	Feb 7th, 2008 08:40:56 AM

I think second season was pretty weak by Agent Johnson	Feb 7th, 2008 08:41:55 AM
What's in the hatch? A dude. And a computer. The episode started strong, but never really went anywhere. And major reveals? The Oceanic 6? Charlie MAY still be alive? Team Jack and Team Locke? Hurley sees Jacob's cabin? Hurley regrets his decision of going with Locke? Pretty MAJOR reveals, if you ask me. The actin was spectacular, especially by Jorge Garcia, who had the unenviable task of taking what has been a fairly comedic character and making him pretty serious. I don't know. Maybe people have just raised their expectations so high for this show that they can't see the forest anymore.
All 3 seasons by Jor-El23	Feb 7th, 2008 08:48:39 AM
have been great TV. when you watch them all together, instead of having to wait weeks or months between new episodes, you really get a great appreciation for how great the show is.
Last episode was great. by I Dunno	Feb 7th, 2008 09:02:42 AM
Damn, I don't know what the people who didn't like it were expecting. And the second season opener was better than the third.
SpyGuy has chosen Team Locke and here's why by SpyGuy	Feb 7th, 2008 09:04:08 AM
When the chips are down, bet on the guy who's a little cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs, used to be a loser and has something to prove, and has a fuckload of cutlery.
Contents of the hatch not a major reveal? by newc0253	Feb 7th, 2008 09:05:52 AM
Really? I made a lot of guesses as to what the hatch contained but i don't think any of them included a guy punching numbers into a computer every 109 minutes in order to prevent the world from ending. and that this was all part of a funky 60s science initiative studying things like ESP. shrug If that's not a major reveal, I don't know what is. By contrast, I find the fact that Hurley regrets going with Locke is interesting but hardly a 'major reveal'. It's more like the kind of hints and clues that Lost hands out on a weekly basis.
Honestly, I think the premiere by Itchy	Feb 7th, 2008 09:09:42 AM
seemed weak because of the huge gap since the last season finale. People forget and get out of the flow and it takes a while to get sucked back in. The same phenomena happened with The Sopranos. Everyone said it started going downhill after season 3, which - coincidentally - was when they really started taking huge breaks between seasons. I never watched The Sopranos until Season 6 Part 1 was released on DVD, and then I watched them all back to back. I loved them - all of them. Because I never "Snapped out" of the flow.
Season Premiere...Best/Worst. by Cheif Brody	Feb 7th, 2008 09:16:18 AM
As far as season premieres goes...no...last week was not the best...Most anticipated? Yes...because we had to wait so fricking long for it...but as good as the Season 1 premiere was (most expensive pilot ever shot)...it pales to the Season 2 opener..."What's inside the hatch" is pretty hard to beat. That said...last week's WAS the best Hurley-centric episode to date...even better than "Dave" which is hard to do. Poor Hugos flash backs had gotten so redundant...last week was a breath of fresh island air. At least these flashbacks tonight will be from people we've never met before...which should greatly cut down on the "redundancy" factor. Is it 9pm yet?
Why did they move to thursdays? by Trik_Ster	Feb 7th, 2008 09:23:08 AM
I liked it on wed
Battlestar Galactica??? by JLo	Feb 7th, 2008 09:29:31 AM
Does anyone know when season 4 starts? It says March but they only shows on the calander are re-runs.
Hell, I loved last week epiosde! Some were upset.. by captboulder	Feb 7th, 2008 09:33:46 AM
because they thought the premiere would had the Lostiest already rescued! But Lost picked up right where they left off and it was fucking great! Those who bitch had good reasons, I supposed. And those who complained over stupid shit, keeps on watching Lost for some reason! LOL
CapnJack.. by nam0krut	Feb 7th, 2008 09:55:10 AM
CapnJack should be banned!!! HE EATS MOOSE COCK WITH BARBARA STREISAND! BAN HIM NOW!
Last week by Bloo	Feb 7th, 2008 09:59:45 AM
I thought it was good and like above mentioned a seamless transition between season finale and season opener, very similar to the S1 finale/S2 opener, I wiash they would have made it a 4 hour even, i don't know how, but done LOST: Past Present Futre followed by season3 finale followed by Season 4 premire Really looking forward to this episdoe, I read the spoilers above because I know that it wuld stop me from enjoying the show and wow, I think this one is going to be AWESOME!
Season premieres by luis1210	Feb 7th, 2008 10:00:24 AM
The second season premiere was kinda crappy, we had to wait a lot to see Jack & Co enter the hatch. Same hatch they were trying to open for months and months. On the other hand the third season premiere was excellent, no complains there. This one, however, was too good. I loved it.
by critch	Feb 7th, 2008 10:02:47 AM
Aren't they waiting on the writers strike to End for Galactica to start again? /crosses fingers for this weekend.
the strike ending this weekend by Bloo	Feb 7th, 2008 10:06:36 AM
would be GREAT, but does anyone have an idea of how long a break we'd have to wait, if the strike ended this weekend and production on new shows started
Adam & Eve by Frodo T. Baggins	Feb 7th, 2008 10:07:51 AM
I have seen every episode of Lost of not often read theories and do talkbacks about it. Can someone tell me where and what this Adam and Eve jargon is about? Plus, why isnt KATE is more movies? Am I the only one that still wants to pee in her butt?
Type-O City by Frodo T. Baggins	Feb 7th, 2008 10:08:49 AM
My B
Bloo by critch	Feb 7th, 2008 10:10:59 AM
Most shows run on a 4 week lagtime for production, which means if it's resolved this weekend, Lost would finish the season without any skip, same with Terminator, Galactica would still be on track for spring, and Heroes would be back in late March. Pleasepleaseplease
One of the best TV series by veritasses	Feb 7th, 2008 10:11:10 AM
The overall story arc might (arguably) be "slow" but the pacing of each episode is tight. The stories, writing, characters, acting, directing etc are all great. Plus it's one of the few dramas that both genders from all walks of like can enjoy.
Premiere by 4we8have15to16go23back42	Feb 7th, 2008 10:20:05 AM
I thought that it was awsome and great, just like all of the other premieres. Besides all of the things that Agent Johnson brought up we also find out about Abandon and get to see Charlie again! Great stuff! Plus we get more of the future timeline. My favorate Hurley episode is still the Dharma Van one though.
I'm a Lost hater... by MisterE	Feb 7th, 2008 10:28:04 AM
I really started disliking this show mid-Season 2, but have continued to watch. I thought that last week's season premiere was pretty darn good. It was a lot better than last year's premiere, at least.
Gave it a Shot Last Week... by BoggyCreekBeast	Feb 7th, 2008 10:29:20 AM
But am giving up on Lost again.
Kate we have to go baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack by Pipple	Feb 7th, 2008 10:33:27 AM
yeah jack, dragging out the word's going to convince her for sure to go back to through the rabbit hole.
Galactica Web site by JLo	Feb 7th, 2008 10:36:26 AM
It says it's suppose to start back up in March and from what I've heard they have the first half of the season finished.
I think there's a phenomena with this show by Agent Johnson	Feb 7th, 2008 10:38:35 AM
It's "Lost Burnout". It's when you spend a ton of time looking up stuff about "Lost" on the interwebs, dissecting every little nuance in a particular episode, and thinking there is something much much deeper hidden within the show. It's happened to just about every person I know who watches this show. I remember getting in huge discussions about what might be in the hatch: A doorway to another world, and older version of the Losties, World War 2 soldiers. And then it was Desmond. Then your a little let down, because what you IMAGINED was there, was always cooler and better than what was actually there. I think a lot of people are just tired of the constant questions without really solid answers. Hey, I went through the same thing. You gotta learn to like this show for what it is and not what you HOPE or WISH it was. I now treat the show like a funhouse. Ultimately, there's not going to be a life-altering experience at the end of the journey, and I may even be let down. But, man, the journey sure is fun!
LOST > all other serial dramas on TV! by ccchhhrrriiisssm	Feb 7th, 2008 10:45:21 AM
It makes The X-Files look like Howdy Doodie! Season 1 of the new Battlestar Galactica was GREAT...but it doesn't really fit as a "serial drama." There just hasn't been a serial drama that has ever compared with LOST! Well, we can relish in seven more weeks of LOST! Then we have to pray for an end to that damn Writer's Strike. Funny, but I didn't care about the strike until I realized that LOST might only air 8 shows if the strike isn't quickly resolved! Now, I want the pope or Congress to intervene!
season 3 started slow by zooch	Feb 7th, 2008 10:45:47 AM
season 4 did not.
Season 3 didn't start slow by Jor-El23	Feb 7th, 2008 10:51:49 AM
People just freaked out because there were only 6 episodes before a 2 1/2 month hiatus. Because of that viewers put a lot of weight on those 6 episodes. They expected way too much from them because it was all they were going to get for 2 1/2 months. Rewatch season 3 again on DVD if you can, it's strong from start to finish.
Agent Johnson re: Lost Burnout by TrumpyEatsPotatoes	Feb 7th, 2008 11:06:22 AM
Completely agree. I experienced that between seasons 2 and 3--I was expecting the Swan explosion to have all sorts of immense and immediate consequences, e.g. tons of people would start arriving the island, at least 2 or 3 characters would be killed etc. By the time "Tale of Two Cities" came on, I had the entire season 3 plot arc mapped out in my head... Not saying they did a bad job--I think they've been on top of it--but when you spend 4 months imagining the BEST! STORY! EVER! you can't help but be disappointed.
thanks critch by Bloo	Feb 7th, 2008 11:10:52 AM
that's what I thought the lag was...man please let the strike end this weekend
Hand it to ABC for once by Rex Havok	Feb 7th, 2008 11:26:06 AM
This season's premier worked really well because the viewers had been teased for weeks and months about the rescue. The mourning for Charlie had almost been lost because the viewers had months to get over it. So when we saw Hurley's reaction, it was very fresh and raw. The promos and teasers for this show usually suck because so many things are presented out of context but the marketing department did a great job this time. How many times can you say that?
according to IMDB by Bloo	Feb 7th, 2008 11:41:45 AM
Slater was in Bobby which was the emilo estevez moive on Robert Kennedy
opps by Bloo	Feb 7th, 2008 11:42:35 AM
wrong talkback sorry ya'll
Theme from last week's show by Youguysgotanymilk	Feb 7th, 2008 11:43:35 AM
The Clash---Should I Stay or Should I Go----"If I go there will be trouble, an' if I stay it will be double"
Lawnmower Man/ Body parks guy is in this? by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Feb 7th, 2008 11:47:24 AM
I've definately got to see this. Fahey is the king of DTV, which is a shame because he's a great actor. He is one of the few actors who can make DTV watchable.
Body Parts by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Feb 7th, 2008 11:47:51 AM
stupid typos/no edit button
Val Klimer as KITT by SimpleSandwiches	Feb 7th, 2008 11:51:45 AM
Changing the subject: ComingSoon.net says Arnett's out, Kilmer's in? http://www.comingsoon.ne t/news/tvnews.php?id=41709
Uh yeah, try going to the other talkback. by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Feb 7th, 2008 11:53:06 AM

The Knight Rider talkback is in the top ten by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Feb 7th, 2008 11:53:58 AM
so high tail it over there Simple.
Ah ha! by SimpleSandwiches	Feb 7th, 2008 12:03:12 PM
I should try reading more often. Srry!
Don't read the above post. by PirateEmery	Feb 7th, 2008 12:23:13 PM
Ok, that calls for a ban...
burying by PirateEmery	Feb 7th, 2008 12:24:28 PM
Burying the spoiler post.
burying by PirateEmery	Feb 7th, 2008 12:24:42 PM
Burying the spoiler post.
burying by PirateEmery	Feb 7th, 2008 12:24:56 PM
Burying the spoiler post.
*Shovels... by TrumpyEatsPotatoes	Feb 7th, 2008 12:27:41 PM
...another scoop of dirt on top of the spoiler post.*
captain dickhead strikes again by Maximus Prime	Feb 7th, 2008 12:27:44 PM
what a wanker
Captain Jackoff by Chevron_Engaged	Feb 7th, 2008 12:30:30 PM
Some one ban him now please. Is there an echo in here?
by Lone_Gunman	Feb 7th, 2008 12:40:09 PM
i will dust off my 9mil beretta and whack capn jack up close.
capn jack by Lone_Gunman	Feb 7th, 2008 12:41:03 PM
fucker loves attention ignore him n he'll be off sucking his mama tits.
Agent Johnson, I'm with you buddy... by mymonkeysnameisjennifer	Feb 7th, 2008 12:45:35 PM
I thought this season's opener was the best yet, so many incredible beats were nailed (and much kudos to Foxy and Garcia for acting their socks off). This show feels like it knows where it's finish line is now, and with the combination of flashbacks and/or forwards it can pretty much do anything now. Can't wait to see where it goes from here on.
Back to Lost... by Lone_Gunman	Feb 7th, 2008 12:45:49 PM
enjoyed last week esp, but didnt exactly leap out and shout whaddafuck just went hmmmm half expected maybe abit more. Interesting to see that Juliet went off with locke and not try and persuade Jack to come seeing they have been close buddies from 2nd half of season 3.
by Lone_Gunman	Feb 7th, 2008 12:47:01 PM
they would be 6 ft under. Can see you're a trier...a stupid one thou.
Capn Jack by Lone_Gunman	Feb 7th, 2008 12:47:28 PM
they would be 6 ft under. Can see you're a trier...a stupid one thou
Must be... by Frank Black	Feb 7th, 2008 12:48:25 PM
the same asshat that ruined last year's finale. There is no point in posting a play by play other than to ruin the experience for people. People may want to read it because they can't wait or they are tempted but they shouldn't. CapnJack is in a position that he either gets screeners and hates the show and wants to ruin it for others or he is involved in production or works for ABC and should be fired quick-like.
Yaargh. I'll be working by SlickyVonBoner	Feb 7th, 2008 12:51:20 PM
...but there's always ABC online, the question is, how long does it take for them to put new episodes online? Can't wait for this one.
Slicky by Bloo	Feb 7th, 2008 01:09:19 PM
I know it's up by Fri morning on abc.com that's how I watched last weeks episode for the same reason, i don't think it hits itunes till after it's aired in Hawaii
BSG > Lost by irrelevntelefant	Feb 7th, 2008 01:13:18 PM
stirs the pot
Just discovered BSG by Agent Johnson	Feb 7th, 2008 01:21:03 PM
ANd it AT LEAST rivals Lost. And, yes, sometimes it is better. I am really hooked now.
BSG by Chevron_Engaged	Feb 7th, 2008 01:21:07 PM
Bsg is awsome, but lost is a cultural event unlike anything else.
what part of America gets lost first?? by Maximus Prime	Feb 7th, 2008 01:21:19 PM
and how long is it for the rest of you'se to get it??
Evangaline lilly is my future wife. by Pipple	Feb 7th, 2008 01:22:29 PM
When lost started, I watched it because she was so hot and wore prettymuch just panties and a bra for the first season, then i realized the show was good too... panties and bra...
never saw BSG by Maximus Prime	Feb 7th, 2008 01:23:09 PM
but I have heard good reports about it..would you guys advise me to invest a few pounds and get it...how many seasons is it???
monkeysname by Agent Johnson	Feb 7th, 2008 01:23:31 PM
WHat you're saying is exactly what I think people are missing. Last week felt like they set up all the pieces for the rest of the series. Last years finale felt like the end of an Act. This year feels like the beginning of the end. THAT'S what I'm lovin on.
BSG by Agent Johnson	Feb 7th, 2008 01:25:48 PM
Is possibly the best show on TV. Lost is right up there, and Friday Night Lights is pretty good as well. If it wasn't for the real soap opera elements, FNL would be my number 1.
MP by rbrog77	Feb 7th, 2008 01:41:02 PM
East coast and Central time zone (Chicago, Dallas) gets it at the same time (9/8). Mountain time (Denver) also comes on at 8, which is an hour later. West coast gets it 3 hours after the east coast, or at 9 their time.
The flash-forwards help by zooch	Feb 7th, 2008 01:46:01 PM
They feel like they are actually moving the story forward. Some of the flashbacks last season were starting to get tiresome.
flashbacks from the future, or flashbacks from the past? by punto	Feb 7th, 2008 01:48:29 PM
there's a difference. I fact, I think it was clear from last episode that the flash forwards don't really, since we already know what happens in the future, so what's the point of building all that tenesion about wether or not they contact the rescuers?
Buh-Bye by Bill Brasky	Feb 7th, 2008 01:59:47 PM
Mitt Romney, Buh-Bye...
cheers rb by Maximus Prime	Feb 7th, 2008 02:10:08 PM
would want to be on here and from the west cost later on..spoiler central
Darlton sure loves recycling the enigmatic character archetype by Sick Fixx	Feb 7th, 2008 02:11:34 PM
First with Eko, then with Ben, then with Desmond, now with Abaddon.
Romney by oisin5199	Feb 7th, 2008 02:11:40 PM
what an idiot. "I quit because if I didn't, the terrorists would win." Uh-huh. Don't let the door hit you on the ass.
BSG @ Museum of TV & Radio by irrelevntelefant	Feb 7th, 2008 02:12:38 PM
'bout 2 years ago they had a night with the creators and stars the most memorable thing was Edward James Olmos said that if he was relageted to only working in Sci-fi (on par with BSG) for the rest of his career he would be more than happy. he followed that by saying that if someone had asked him pre- BSG if he would ever consider being in a remake of BSG, he said likely not. what sold him on the series was when he received the script, he had no idea it was BSG as the first 2 pages before the title page were a mission statement from the shows creators about what they wanted to do with the show, and the level and depth of characters and storylines they wanted to acheive. if the first thing he saw was 'Battlestar Galactica', he would not have read it and just declined.... Season 4 (the final season) starts in April
And please... by Sick Fixx	Feb 7th, 2008 02:13:17 PM
No multiple one word sentences to sum up the supposed awesomeness of the cliffhanger or final words at the end of tonight's broadcast. Multiple one word sentences of awesomeness have so jumped the shark.
capn jack & Agent johnson by maxwell's hammer	Feb 7th, 2008 02:13:43 PM
Get over it people...that stuff has been posted on Lostpedia for months now, and I've managed not to read it. You can usually see a plot synopsis based on the first few lines. Once you do that, just scroll past it. Do you know how much effort it takes to actually sit and read that whole thing? If you read it, its because you really wanted to. Don't shit on Capn Jack because he thinks its funny watching people with no self-control ruin the fun of watching an episode fresh. Also, Agent Johnson, I think the key to enjoying the payoffs to the LOST mysteries is to admit that whatever you think is automatically going to be wrong. I speculated about what was going to be in the hatch, but instead of trying to come up with a 'Perfect Scenario', I just realized that whatever was in there was going to be a surprise, which it was, and I enjoyed the hell out of it. I hate all these people (not you, Agent J) that shout and scream about what they think should happen, and then bitch when that doesn't happen.
Example: by Sick Fixx	Feb 7th, 2008 02:14:26 PM
Ben. Is. Badass. or That. Was. Awesome. I hate that shit almost as much as 'teh', 'taht' and 'pwned'.
They should have a real life celebrity written into the show by Sick Fixx	Feb 7th, 2008 02:18:28 PM
to wash up on shore. That would raise so many new storyline possibilities. Say, for instance, Jake Gyllenhaal or Hasslehoff or Lindsay Lohan or Bill O'Reilly just found their way onto the island and became an ongoing character. At the very least, there should be a character who's a talk radio host join the Losties.
re: They should have a real life celebrity written into the show by Trik_Ster	Feb 7th, 2008 02:29:08 PM
they could have paris hilton bitching about having to squat and crap in the woods
As long as they show her in the process by Sick Fixx	Feb 7th, 2008 02:35:43 PM
of doing it, I'm fine with that. :D
I bet Naomi knew Libby by skywalkerfamily	Feb 7th, 2008 02:38:07 PM
That's her sister.
paris has people ... by irrelevntelefant	Feb 7th, 2008 02:39:03 PM
who crap for her... no way she is going to dirty her own ass pwned
Thanks irrelevntelefant BSG by JLo	Feb 7th, 2008 03:14:30 PM
Are you sure about BSG starting in April? It does not surprise me,I'm just a little dissapointed. I had cable hooked up just so I wouldn't miss the new season. I got half way through season 3 on iTune and they cut it off. I then had to switch to amazon.com to just get the last half.
BSG could be march by irrelevntelefant	Feb 7th, 2008 03:56:07 PM
not soon enough for me...
April 4th it is BSG by JLo	Feb 7th, 2008 04:02:47 PM
I just read some artical that said Friday April 4th. I'll believe it when I see it at this point. They keep pushing it back.
why by cpl1976	Feb 7th, 2008 04:06:50 PM
is it so important for people to spoil things.Power? I have been reading things on this site for a while and I really hate it when people ruin things like that. Give it a twit man? write something that makes us want to watch the show, without giving too much away. Save that non inventive bragging for sites made for meatball heads.
Lost series ending spoiler.... by irrelevntelefant	Feb 7th, 2008 04:16:34 PM
Jack wakes up with Baily, Julia, Claudia and Sarah standing over him. Apparantly it was all a dream, his name is really Charlie Salinger and he took about 4 hits of shrooms 3 days prior he gets up to take a shower and finds SAND IN HIS ASS CRACK!!!
Adama/ Caprica Six '08 by irrelevntelefant	Feb 7th, 2008 04:17:25 PM

Adama/ Caprica Six '08 by JLo	Feb 7th, 2008 04:20:30 PM
I hope they make it back in 08'
Why the hell did I even read that? Fuck me in the ass hole by GimpInMyPants	Feb 7th, 2008 04:23:21 PM
I read up until where it said Naomi gets a flashback. I knew I should have avoided this place.
Dont ever come here!! by JLo	Feb 7th, 2008 04:31:17 PM

Dont ever come here!! by JLo	Feb 7th, 2008 04:32:28 PM
If you don't want to know what happens especially in the Talk Back that just plain crazy.
Weakest season premiere by Bob of the Shire	Feb 7th, 2008 04:36:16 PM
Was the Season 3 opener. The big reveal of the Others camp was handled exactly like the reveal of the hatch, so we saw it coming from a mile away. And the rest of the episode was boring as hell, foreshadowing the low quality of the rest of the first half of season three. I agree that the season four opener wasn't the best ever, but it was a solid episode and made me eager for more. Abaddon, the "we have to go back" plot, more Jacob goodness, and rain-soaked Kate made for an intrigueing hour of television. It didn't blow my dick off but it was better than anything from the first half of season three and on par the series usual quality. Here's hoping it keeps it up. Oh, and anyone saying Lost is the best drama on TV must be relatively new to the medium. The Shield and The Wire are the most obvious examples of shows that severely outclass Lost in the writing and acting categories.
Rerunning Season premeire tonight, right? by theBigE	Feb 7th, 2008 04:50:12 PM
I think they're rerunning last week's season 4 opener an hour before the new episode, right? If you missed it, tune in!
Ignore You know who and his posts by theBigE	Feb 7th, 2008 04:52:08 PM
If I see that turdball's name in the posts, I skip right over whatever he's got to say. People like that have low self-esteem issues, they have to piss others off to feel important. Ignore him, and he'll go away.
LOST and BSG have made my year by Ashok0	Feb 7th, 2008 04:58:08 PM
Seriously, LOST and BSG alone are going to make 2008 a complete blast. Now I just pray the Dexter writers can get a new season of Dexter written before 2009!
problem with the shield and the wire by aestheticity	Feb 7th, 2008 04:58:24 PM
theyre cop shows. narrowly defined genre there. i dont watch cop shows because i outgrew fetishising the police before i was ten. you could sublimely write and act a series about binmen. lost is a show that spans genres and thus has broad appeal.
Homicide was a great cop show by irrelevntelefant	Feb 7th, 2008 05:07:27 PM

Always Sunny in Philadelphia... by irrelevntelefant	Feb 7th, 2008 05:10:47 PM
Funniest frakkin show on TV!
Lost / BSG tie in by irrelevntelefant	Feb 7th, 2008 05:12:25 PM
BSG finally finds the 13th colony... AND IT'S THE LOST ISLAND!! I should be a frakkin writer... on strike
Capn Jack's Revenge!! by maxwell's hammer	Feb 7th, 2008 05:27:06 PM
I still can't get over some of you people! To read all of those spoilers he posts, you have to consciously sit down and focus and read through several highly descriptive paragraphs. How hard is to avoid that! It's like spoiling a book by reading the last chapter first and then saying: "Fuck you William Faulkner for putting the ending in this book!" Although I'm not sure too much William Faulkner gets read in these talkbacks. Maybe I should have said Timothy Zahn or Dr. Seuss.
Celeb by edshrinker	Feb 7th, 2008 05:29:49 PM
I kinda like that idea.but only if it's Shatner. Everyting is better with a little Shatner. Jack......the .......Hatch! Itsgoingtoimplode!
Shatnerese by edshrinker	Feb 7th, 2008 05:33:39 PM
Shatner is actually a dialect, isn't it? Like a southern accent, except you.........pause........for.. .......reasonthentalkrealquick . Ah shit me doing that is like that Bionic Woman chick trying NOT to sound British. Or Amanda Tapping trying to.
Other Shows by Agent Johnson	Feb 7th, 2008 05:47:31 PM
Oh, sure, The Wire and The Shield are great shows. But from originality, they are not. Lost has is something completely new to television. It is a soap opera without being a soap opera. It's scope alone is worth it being in the top tier of all time TV. I'm not one dimensional on this. The Sopranos did the same thing. I've seen The Shield, but I think it's really just an extension of gritty 90's anti-hero cop movies. BSG is also helping to redefine a genre, which is why it, too, is one of the best on TV. X-Files, Simpsons, Seinfeld...All these shows are some of TV's all-time greats. What's great about TV is that there are room for all kinds of great shows. Lost is one of them. And is in the same class as The Shield and The Wire.
Boring premiere by My Pretty Pony	Feb 7th, 2008 05:47:45 PM
I expected a lot more action. Hurley doing a cannonball into the water was pretty cheesy. I'm also tired of seeing Hurley in a mental institution and Jack as an alcoholic. Couldn't they have come up w/ something more original than that for Jack? I'll continue to watch "Supernatural" live and just record "Lost", but I may have to give up on the show completely if it doesn't start to improve.
Episodes... by edshrinker	Feb 7th, 2008 05:54:05 PM
For the one who asked earlier, I think one one producers of LOST mentioned if they could gear up and restart production by the end of February (and they are READY) they could spit out 5 or 6 more eps but not a complete 16 ep season. I know I read it from a producer but I can't cite it to back it up. I hope I'm way off and we can get 8 more. And the season 4 opener was just WAY too anticipated. Too long of a break. There is no way they could match expectations. But they moved the story along with another awesome flash forward, a beloved dead character makes an appearance and we know it was real in some sense since a co-patient saw him too (that was a slight WTF moment), we get a Ben Smack (thanks Danielle!), "I'm not quite dead yet" Naomi (best Monte Python accent), wet Kate, Locke Smack (thanks Jack! "click" -tilts head), a camp divided, Claire's quivering lips (oh boy...there is somewhere else to go with that), Jacob/Christian/eyeballs in the creepy cabin...that vanishes at the count of 3, and on and on and on. Some of you had some SERIOUS freakin expectations if that wasn't at least a B+ episode. Loved it. Tonight will be better. New drinking game...take a shot every time someone lands a punch. Whew.
Edshrinker...The Co-Patient... by Cheif Brody	Feb 7th, 2008 06:03:54 PM
What if HE'S not really there either? He was playing Connect 4 with Hurley, too...but the nurse never aknowleged him when she brought over Hugo's meds. What if he's merely Hurley's new "Dave"? See ya'll tomorrow...Enjoy it!!
CS Lewis by edshrinker	Feb 7th, 2008 06:04:47 PM
Charlotte Staples Lewis. What about CS Lewis' works could connect to LOST? I've read all his major Christian work but none of Narnia - and I assume that something in there is a hint about the island. There is a Christian book called The Great Divorce where he wrote about a group of people who were caught in a Hell of their own making, repeating some of the same dreary choices and mistakes from life and the kicker was at the end, God offered them a chance to leave yet none of them would. They were unwilling to leave a reality they knew due to fear, arrogance, stubbornness - so they settled for the Hell they knew instead a Heaven that was an unknown. Terrible summary...that book just came to mind crossing LOST and CS Lewis.
Brody by edshrinker	Feb 7th, 2008 06:11:27 PM
Great point. Hell, the whole institution could be an illusion and he's lithiumed into a straightjacked drooling idiot in a padded cell. But these writers are so damned clever, they wouldn't throw in that patient acknowledging Charlie only to say, oh, yea that guy was a hallucination too. I think that was a purposeful clip - showing that at least "something" is appearing to Hurley. To the other patient, I guess he could have looked like anyone - but to Hurley he looked like Charlie. I gotta believe that was written like that to solidify the fact it wasn't just imagined.
You too Brody by edshrinker	Feb 7th, 2008 06:19:48 PM
God knows I'll enjoy it. Though I was just wondering how cool it would be to just wake up in 2010 and be able to watch it all commercial free/back to back and have it all unfold. Just think about the 8 or 9 year old, too young to really get into it, turn 12 or so in 2010 and get the box set on Green-Ray/laser/HD microholodisk, and get to watch it all unfold, start to finish. Lucky Fuck.
edshrinker by Agent Johnson	Feb 7th, 2008 06:32:08 PM
Dude, I don't know how old you are, but we wee hoping for the Green-Ray/laser/HD microdisk 20 years ago. Where's my Green-Ray/laser/HD microdisk? They had Green-Ray/laser/HD microdisk on the Jetsons? Where are all those nifty invenstions like the Green-Ray/laser/HD microdisk? So I wouldn't get your hopes up. Hell, we'll still be watching Lost on crappy old Blue Ray!
edshrinker: clive staples by freydis	Feb 7th, 2008 06:32:12 PM
not charlotte. jack to his friends. interesting idea about the great divorce... doubt it's an intentional allegory but there's a lot of parallels there
Fuck! why did I read the spoiler! by GQtaste	Feb 7th, 2008 06:43:39 PM
I never do that and now i"m pissed off. I know better than to come this page before the show comes on. But I was dissapointed with the season opener.
"Cop shows" by Bob of the Shire	Feb 7th, 2008 06:54:29 PM
I didn't watch The Shield for years because that's exactly what I thought, that it was just a "cop show" and it's gimmick was that it was gritty. I could not have been more fucking wrong. It isn't about genre or scope, those are things irrelavent to a shows quality. Labeling The Shield or The Wire as simply "cop shows" shows how ignorant you are to those programs. They're working on and exploring levels of storytelling and character that Lost doesn't even attempt. I love Lost (and BSG) too, the first season of Lost is one of the best television history IMO. But The Shield, specifically, raised the bar on what I thought possible for the television medium in terms of acting and writing. It took me a long time to put aside my ignorant notion that it was just another cop show and actually give it a fair shot, and I hope everyone else does the same. If you have any interest in television and the potential it holds, The Shield, The Wire, and The Sopranos are required viewing. I don't think you can honestly bring an informed opinion to the discussion until you've viewed each.
freydis by edshrinker	Feb 7th, 2008 07:05:39 PM
The new character on LOST who lands on the island tonight is named Charlotte. Charlotte Staples Lewis is her full name in the press release. Its a clue, but how?
hurley is actually fatter by krycek08	Feb 7th, 2008 07:12:42 PM
watching last weeks episode
ohhhhhh by freydis	Feb 7th, 2008 07:15:34 PM
forgive my ignorance. seems like it can't be a complete accident (staples isn't exactly a name that springs to mind)... I wonder what she'll be like, if it'll follow the Locke/Rousseau model of vaguely resembling the philosophy they're named after or what
Charlotte Staples Lewis = by StuckInthePresentPaused	Feb 7th, 2008 07:17:49 PM
CS Lewis = Chronicles of Narnia maybe has something to do with the wardrobe
If I'm ignorant, you're pretentious by Agent Johnson	Feb 7th, 2008 07:39:10 PM
There is nothing wrong with The Shield being a "cop show". It is what it is. The Sopranos is a gangster show. Labeling it's genre isn't a calling it bad. But it is a cop show. It may even be one of THE best "cop shows" ever. I'm not saying The Shield or The Wire are bad, but that Lost is equal to some of the best television ever. No, I have not sat down and really gotten into those shows, although I intend to. That doesn't mean I cannot see the brilliance of Lost. It is a show that has helped to redefine television. Perhaps it is YOU who are too ignorant to see the place of Lost in the history of television. Or, maybe you are just to pretentious.
Agent Johnson by edshrinker	Feb 7th, 2008 08:03:51 PM
What!!!??? I'm expecting them to come out with that holomicrodisc that interacts with an atatomically correct body suit with "RealFeal"(tm) that, when watching as Sawyer in season 3 you feel Kate's sweet twat grinding into as you dig in for leverage in the Bear cage. Or be Jack and have ripped up knuckles from pummeling everyone. Or be Ben and know what it feels like to be a punching bag by several of the Losties. And HoloClaire's lips will quiver...not just the ones on that cute face either (HAD to say it -God I love that girl). My "RealFeel" Suit(tm) now has a short in it in a very sensitive place. Stupid future crap. HERE WE GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Naomi doesn't have a sister!!! by edshrinker	Feb 7th, 2008 08:27:29 PM
So it was a fucking code!!! That bitch. Why didn't she just fuck em up front, why all the codes? And Sawyer to Ben, "You're wasting your time Yoda". And now a Ben Smacking. Lovin this, by God!!
"I don't know... by edshrinker	Feb 7th, 2008 08:30:54 PM
...How stupid are ya?" -Jack Goddamn that was sweet!
How stupid are ya? by jimmy rabbitte	Feb 7th, 2008 08:31:30 PM
...love how they brought that one full circle. Davies is the new Walken.
I would fuck Naomi up front by Mr. Mcpoops	Feb 7th, 2008 08:32:09 PM
or in the back. It doesn't matter.
Jack is the man by Mr. Mcpoops	Feb 7th, 2008 08:33:46 PM
Whatshisname is a pretty damn good actor. And does anyone watch the shit that is Brothers and Sisters?
They shouldn't have killed off Charlie by Mr. Mcpoops	Feb 7th, 2008 08:34:45 PM
and added more characters. Fuck these new people. I really don't care about them.
Am I watching Lake Placid 2? by Mr. Mcpoops	Feb 7th, 2008 08:36:45 PM
I hope so.
Hmmm by clockpolitiks	Feb 7th, 2008 08:41:14 PM
These guys don't seem to be part of dharma or anything. They almost seem to be paranormal or dharma....fanboys? I think they just wanted to find the island because they all seem interested in the paranormal, and we all know that the island is chock full of that shit.
'THat's your problem, we don by MeshGearFoxx	Feb 7th, 2008 08:41:19 PM

that's your problem, we don't want to be found by MeshGearFoxx	Feb 7th, 2008 08:42:43 PM
great line by locke. This episode is going to open a ton of questions. great so far
Charlotte and her freckles by edshrinker	Feb 7th, 2008 08:45:40 PM
Makes me yearn for some hot, wet freckles on freckles action. They both got that baseball hat, sexy tomboy look with a smokin hot athletic body. And THAT is an English accent. Yummy. Talk dirty to me Charlotte baby. Or just read me some CS Lewis. Uhhh - scratch that last one, I don't need any more guilt.
fanboys by MeshGearFoxx	Feb 7th, 2008 08:45:55 PM
that's a good point clockpoltiks. Charlotte seems to be interested by dharma, daniel was crying at the news of locating the plane. Not sure about mr sixth sense.
Okay, now I'm interested by Mr. Mcpoops	Feb 7th, 2008 08:48:14 PM
Why wasn't that dirty hippie flying the plane?
Explain this shit to meeeeeeeeeeeeeee by Pipple	Feb 7th, 2008 08:48:34 PM
i missed the first 30 minute and now im all confuse ooooooooooooh
oh shit ben! by Pipple	Feb 7th, 2008 08:50:25 PM
Wowwwww damnit man, no... she was kinda hot...
Jericho S2 starts next tues by Trik_Ster	Feb 7th, 2008 08:50:47 PM
Stock up on nuts
Ben Goddamn it!!!! by edshrinker	Feb 7th, 2008 08:52:03 PM
That is one fucked up dude!!! Pop Pop... thump. He is SERIOUS about protecting that island to shoot a stranger in cold blood. But wait...here come THE PICTURE!!!!!
"LOST is the best show on TV" by ebonic_plague	Feb 7th, 2008 08:54:31 PM
No. That's The Wire. Sorry. This might be trolling but it's also stone carved objective truth. I'm sure Lost is better than a lot of other network tv, it even has Major Daniels in it now, but clarification was in order. Carry on.
Dude by edshrinker	Feb 7th, 2008 08:56:06 PM
IT IS NOT 10 minutes til 10 already!!!!! THAT is the mark of a great show. I'm so frustrated...I want a marathon, by God. So into it the time just slips by.
Ok, fuck it by br1947	Feb 7th, 2008 08:56:32 PM
I'm not trying to figure this shit out anymore, I'm just along for the ride at this point. I swear if there is not a good, I mean REALLY, REALLY DAMNED GOOD explaination to all of this... I'm tracking down JJ Abrams and kicking him in the balls.
daniel faraday by MeshGearFoxx	Feb 7th, 2008 08:57:34 PM
is neil patrick harris
Wait for it....... by edshrinker	Feb 7th, 2008 09:00:23 PM
THERE IT IS!!! We're here for Benjamin Linus
Too many new characters by Sick Fixx	Feb 7th, 2008 09:01:58 PM
There's already been a character named Danny on here, and I thought his name originally was supposed to be Minkowski. And wasn't he originally supposed to be played by Fisher Stevens? Jeff Fahey's character will probably die before the end of the season. The Asian guy will probably be the only new character with long term potential.
Do these people have one extra life left? by Pipple	Feb 7th, 2008 09:02:22 PM
Shot, stabbed, but they can get back up again and keep moving. This show's officially jumped the shark I guess.
I would like to say just a few words about this episode by rbrog77	Feb 7th, 2008 09:02:43 PM
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The Wire is over rated by Mr. Mcpoops	Feb 7th, 2008 09:03:09 PM
I tried my best to like the Wire. I watched 3 and 1/2 seasons. It's okay, but it is not the best show ever. It's crap. The Shield is the best show on television.
...because by edshrinker	Feb 7th, 2008 09:03:27 PM
I have a man on their boat" "thump" LOST
ok I've got all the names accounted for except Straume by freydis	Feb 7th, 2008 09:03:48 PM
any guesses? anyone?
"That's not naomi, that's just meat" by clockpolitiks	Feb 7th, 2008 09:04:25 PM

pushed enter on accident by clockpolitiks	Feb 7th, 2008 09:05:06 PM
But yea, anyone else catch that? Weird.
Fantastic episode. by Shermdawg	Feb 7th, 2008 09:05:34 PM

It was alright by Mr. Mcpoops	Feb 7th, 2008 09:05:43 PM
Ben is such a douche.
What does the boat remark even mean? by Sick Fixx	Feb 7th, 2008 09:06:40 PM
I'm so tired of the vague cliffhangers this show leaves us on. Does he mean one of his Others has captured the boat or that he took one of their crew members hostage?
The boat remark... by seanny_d	Feb 7th, 2008 09:08:03 PM
means that he has a mole on the boat. I thought that was pretty much self explanatory.
That's not Neil Patrick Harris by Sick Fixx	Feb 7th, 2008 09:09:45 PM
It's the douche from Secretary. Also, the retard from Ravenous and Charles Manson from NBC's Helter Skelter.
jeff fahey is still awesome by captain_kirk	Feb 7th, 2008 09:10:54 PM
I'm still pissed ABC canceled The Marshall, so seeing him back on ABC makes me smile. He will definitely add a lot to the show now. It would appear that Minkowski is the traitor, as he was unavailable on the boat. Obviously, it could be any of the people, including the ones who are on the island. One question I have is this: why did Naomi think they'd find the survivors on the island?
No, it wasn't self explanatory by Sick Fixx	Feb 7th, 2008 09:10:55 PM
Lost is a lot like that sorta kinda girlfriend that shows you a hint of pleasure every now and then, but mostly keeps you on your toes waiting for something that benefits you.
THIS EPISODE BLEW ME AWAY by kyle051554	Feb 7th, 2008 09:12:06 PM
'Nuff said. My God, answers, questions, twists, action, I cannot believe how good this episode was!
Interesting.... by Mr. Profit	Feb 7th, 2008 09:13:16 PM
Another good episode that improved on last week. The pilot dead in the water reminded me of the graphic Spanish newscasts my grandmother watched on Telemundo. All of the acting was good. The flashbacks are interesting. And the reveals were great. I ant wait to see how this changes. BTW Kristen Bell should have done Lost instead. Charlotte could have looked hotter if it were Bell. I'm hooked and I hope this show continues the pace.
Others on the outside by KandiSlayer	Feb 7th, 2008 09:13:30 PM
Was it established that Ben and company had people on the outside when we first met Juliet?
boat by MeshGearFoxx	Feb 7th, 2008 09:14:23 PM
When Miles phoned back to the boat, the guy he was looking for wasn't available - likely that Ben's person forced the woman to say that so the Others might have control of the boat already.
Jack better hope Locke doesn't get a fix on that chopper by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Feb 7th, 2008 09:16:09 PM
I'd love to see Locke blow that fucking jackass smile of his right of his face by turning that copter into TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION
You mean to tell me we could have had Kristen Bell... by Sick Fixx	Feb 7th, 2008 09:16:14 PM
over ferret face???
Ben's Mole by Yo Yo Ma	Feb 7th, 2008 09:16:45 PM
How about Michael? I would think the mole is someone we already know in the lost universe....
Continuity Error? by Mr. Profit	Feb 7th, 2008 09:17:30 PM
Can someone please tell me what the supposedly glaring continuity error was tonight? I kept reading about it but I wanted to remain spoiler free. Can one of the more eagle eyed fans tell me?
Kyle by edshrinker	Feb 7th, 2008 09:17:38 PM
From what I've read...it's only going to get exponentially better! Whoa. No show on TV ever except maybe Farscape due to my complete geekdom and the 4th and 5th season of Angel has done this to me. BSG is right there too. Oh - Babylon 5 Seasons 2-4 ...that story arc was fuckin AWESOME!
Benjamin Linus - hero or douche? by Spacejockey426	Feb 7th, 2008 09:18:10 PM
I have had it with all you people who slam Ben incessantly. Use your brains, dammit. Like Ben, who is a master manipulator, you are being manipulated to hate him. Is there not one of you who will stop for a moment and THINK that he might be right about all this? Yes, his methods are Machiavellian, but he only resorted to ordering his people to kill when things started getting out of control. Before that there was intimidation and espionage – but the Others never killed anyone, did they? That didn’t stop our castaways from doing so, however. Think before you write capriciously . . . . . . . . and feel free to tell me how this show has jumped the shark? It’s a big mystery being revealed slowly over as many seasons as it will air. Perhaps some episodes may not be quite as compelling as others, but come on! We're seeing some of the best writing, acting, and production the medium has ever seen . . . . . . . . and of course, if you don’t like it, then you’re free to get lost . . . .
I'm not surprised if the "man on the boat"... by Christopher3	Feb 7th, 2008 09:18:38 PM
Turns out to be Mikhail.
The Man on the Boat by Agent Johnson	Feb 7th, 2008 09:20:08 PM
Ethan Rom, bitches!
I think the man on the boat is def .... by Ashok0	Feb 7th, 2008 09:21:22 PM
...Michael.
Oooooooh by Agent Johnson	Feb 7th, 2008 09:22:27 PM
Micahel would ROCK
thought this episode was bloody awesome by mthrndr	Feb 7th, 2008 09:22:39 PM
5 stars. Spoilers We learn -why everyone thinks there were no survivors (we didn't know why for sure before now) -that the downed plane in the ocean doesn't contain any of the people on the island (burying forever the 'purgatory' and 'twin' theories) -why, in broad strokes, the new team is there -that the new team is pretty much in the dark as to the true motives of the bad black dude -that at least some of the team members are trying to figure out what Dharma is from the outside. -there is a definite spiritual aspect of the show. It seemed pretty clear in his flashback that Miles at least THOUGHT he was talking to a dead kid, and it showed him the hidden money. We don't know: -what the polar bear was doing in tunisia -WHY they want Ben so bad -if the team truly is that bad -Is ben wanted for the murder of the dharma team? If they wanted him so bad, why do they keep up with the food drops? There are still a million questions, but I thought they did a GREAT job introing these people as good characters and fleshed out a lot of answers about why they're there. some final questions: -why so matter of fact that the guy couldn't come to the phone, as if he was calling his friend from his house instead of a tropical island field -why did Daniel cry at the beginning (and did his wife call him Sam?) Is he an "ESP" sensitive physicist or something? What does "not scatter quite right" mean?
I say Michael is his guy on the boat. by RyanMurray	Feb 7th, 2008 09:22:44 PM
Yup.
I mean Michael by Agent Johnson	Feb 7th, 2008 09:22:45 PM

minkowski by freydis	Feb 7th, 2008 09:23:16 PM
in my opinion is the more interesting name drop, as hermann minkowski developed systems with which to do some complicated thing about space-time. "Henceforth space by itself, and time by itself, are doomed to fade away into mere shadows, and only a kind of union of the two will preserve an independent reality." which seems relevant.
Meet Kevin Johnson by Yo Yo Ma	Feb 7th, 2008 09:23:48 PM
The name of the Michael episode is Meet Kevin Johnson, is Kevin Johnson the guy on th boat?????
Note to Tim Kring, start taking notes from Damon Lindeloff by Ashok0	Feb 7th, 2008 09:23:55 PM
And 24 writers, you might improve your show from taking notes from Tim Kring.
So it's pretty much confirmed they are lost in time? by Professor_Snarf	Feb 7th, 2008 09:24:15 PM
The dharma polar bear is found unearthed in an archelogical dig in Tunisa. The atmosphere has no pollution so the light doesn't scatter. The reason having children on the island is so important. The reason they didn't want to take a "native" back with them. The reason there is a list with good people on it. Why there's no radio transmissions or airplanes flying overhead. That island exists before humanity. If you travel back in time and create a society, then you control and mold human civilization itself. Anyway that was one of the best episodes of the series.
Minkowski by StuckInthePresentPaused	Feb 7th, 2008 09:24:23 PM
Ben's guy on the boat is probably going to be someone prominent and since the only casting we have heard of that hasnt been seen yet is minkowski and he is on the boat i'd assume it is him for now
Ben's man on the boat is.... by BetaRayBill07	Feb 7th, 2008 09:24:25 PM
Minkowski. Put money on it. And yes I understand he's the leader of these dharmaphiles or whatever.
could kevin johnson be by freydis	Feb 7th, 2008 09:25:48 PM
a new assumed name for michael? (wouldn't make much sense to return to civilization and try to pick up where you left off) ...which would still make michael the man on the boat. which personally I'd be happy with.
Man on the boat is Michael. by Yoda's Ball Sack	Feb 7th, 2008 09:26:32 PM
You know this to be true...........
Or, here's another one...Ben's man on the boat is.... by BetaRayBill07	Feb 7th, 2008 09:26:34 PM
Richard. Alpert. Where's he been lately? Huh? HUH?
The little man in the boat by Lurker Johnson	Feb 7th, 2008 09:27:18 PM
is usually in the lady's underpants.
Man on boat is TASG by Ashok0	Feb 7th, 2008 09:27:21 PM
:)
It's not Mikhail. by sjlm90	Feb 7th, 2008 09:27:43 PM
He was too busy killing Charlie, and it had to be someone that the boaties have been with for a good while. I definitely think that's it's our Mikey. And yeah, great episode. The end.
Yoda by BetaRayBill07	Feb 7th, 2008 09:27:45 PM
Right on there me thinks. Michael's on that freighter.
Who is Minkowski by Yo Yo Ma	Feb 7th, 2008 09:28:26 PM
Sorry for asking, I hope this is not a dumb question but who is Minkowski????
Jack's a crybaby jackass by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Feb 7th, 2008 09:28:36 PM
That's why people hate him. Instead of stopping to think about a situation like Locke, he just waves a gun around and gets all teary eyed. He's not even near as tapped into the island as Locke or even Hurley. Locke's the one people hate for no reason, other than them being narrowminded dumbasses who need a "badguy" to hate, so they picked Locke since he was the "weirdest" until Ben came along, who they chose to hate because his sheer intelligence compared to that knuckle dragging ape Jack intimidates them.
they want ben dead by docimian	Feb 7th, 2008 09:29:41 PM
cause, like, he killed a dozen or three darma people and tossed them in a pit then took over the island. but then the others started studying the island like the darma group were. im confused.
BetaRayBill07 by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Feb 7th, 2008 09:30:06 PM
Uh, Cane, on NBC or whatever? I don't think he's a part of the show anymore.
minkowski by freydis	Feb 7th, 2008 09:30:24 PM
the guys who landed from the helicopter tried to get in touch with minkowski, who was on the boat, via the phone. we haven't seen him yet.
Not really a continuity error by mthrndr	Feb 7th, 2008 09:31:38 PM
some people, Michael Ausiello of Tvguide included, were annoyed that no one seemed upset this episode that Charlie's dead. Come on! These people either A) think rescue is imminent, or B) Wonder what Locke is doing and who this new person is. How many people have died on this show? You have to assume that in the snippets that we see, the characters have more important things to do than cry over charlie. I'm sure they'll address his death more fully with claire later. If anyone wants to read ausiello's silly complaints, go here: http://tinyurl.com/yqk8nt
Oops by Yo Yo Ma	Feb 7th, 2008 09:31:48 PM
Sorry.....You are right...I dont know wnat I was thinking..
They want Ben dead because... by Professor_Snarf	Feb 7th, 2008 09:33:27 PM
He's not native to the island.
MIles? by StuckInthePresentPaused	Feb 7th, 2008 09:34:51 PM
The Freighter people are there because of the island and already have information about the island. Anyone else feel the Miles is there directly to deal with Jacob
I missed the actual "doesn't scatter quite right" line by freydis	Feb 7th, 2008 09:35:06 PM
what did that refer to?
interesting points... by captain_kirk	Feb 7th, 2008 09:36:52 PM
first, harold perrineau was in the credits (the first time i noticed this in a while). Second, where is the location of the second cabin, if Hurley was right about it the first time? Third, where ARE the other Others? I mean, there were a bunch at camp, and Ben wanted to take them back to camp, but what have they been doing lately?
Gonaa have to think about this one... by Shard Harventh	Feb 7th, 2008 09:38:27 PM
...then watch it again tomorrow. Are they going to continue showing last weeks episode before the new one every week? That'd be kinda alright, but it's sure a waste of airtime they could be using for new shows...sans strike of course...oh, and I totally called that about Naomi's sister being code for something...that's not bragging, that's me rendering amazement at myself for finally predicting something right about this damn show...
freydis... by mthrndr	Feb 7th, 2008 09:38:48 PM
I think he was referring to the light being "strange. it doesn't scatter quite right." given that faraday is a physicist (or so he says), it seems to indicate that the island isn't normal. I'm going with the stuck in time theory. It's late 2004 on this show, but they can explain Walt being older and the snazzy phones by saying that the outside world is actually current day.
But they showed Jack and Kate having a Charlie moment.... by Mr. Profit	Feb 7th, 2008 09:39:37 PM
In the premiere during the final scene, Kate asked Jack if she was thinking of Charlie. So obviously they are mourning his death. How can those idiots consider that a continuity error? Do people need Claire crying over a Virgin Mary statue while a montage of Charlie scenes set to Sia's Breathe Me plays in order to hammer the point across?
Eko? by Reasonaxe	Feb 7th, 2008 09:40:00 PM
Did anyone notice when Miles was in the house of the woman they kept showing the pictures on the wall of the child and it looked like the actor who played young Eko in his flashbacks?
Man on the boat by dynamicb	Feb 7th, 2008 09:41:13 PM
It's Michael. It has to be. I think we will see a flashback of him in the eighth episode leading up to him being on the freighter. Ben is probably blackmailing him with information about how he killed Ana Lucia and Libby.
the bending light thing.... by captain_kirk	Feb 7th, 2008 09:43:11 PM
just remember that light is affected by gravity. Thus, light cannot escape a black hole. A black hole. Basically, the island is in something like a black hole, magnetically or gravitationally speaking.
High tech phones by Yo Yo Ma	Feb 7th, 2008 09:43:16 PM
High tech phones are a give away. They gave away that the finale was a flashfoward. Jack's phone came out after 2004. However, If they are some sort of time warp...how do they got off the island. Can a helicopter move through time or worm hole?..
Node32774 by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Feb 7th, 2008 09:43:35 PM
Uh, you don't exactly want a completely rational, strictly man of science in charge on a magic healing island with fucking smoke monsters, in my opinion. And uses others for his dirty work? Did you not watch tonights episode and see how he was going to "clean up his own mess" Let me guess, your one of those people pissed that he "made" sawyer kill cooper, like he held a gun to his head. Sawyers a big boy, he can do his own thing. And why are people still arguing about Locke preventing people from getting off the island. We KNOW now that getting off the island is NOT GOOD. Or did Jack look like he was having a good time in the season 3 finale.
Michael the man on the boat AND the man in the coffin by Mouton	Feb 7th, 2008 09:43:46 PM
That's why Jack was so upset that he was dead, because Michael had connections to get Jack back to the island Also, maybe the Smoke Monster killed the pilot right away because he wasn't supposed to be on that plane...hmmmmm...
People hate Jack... by Stevie Grant	Feb 7th, 2008 09:44:33 PM
because he's constantly overly emotional and it comes in two modes: first, teary hissy-fit mode; second, the teary 100% dedicated mode. The character is constantly crying and is a slave to his emotions. I don't get why the other characters don't listen to Sayeed or Jin more.
Reasonaxe by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Feb 7th, 2008 09:45:49 PM
Uh not really. It was a young drug dealing boy who was murdered, so it wasn't eko. I don't think we were supposed to be lead to believe anything.
I don't hate jack by freydis	Feb 7th, 2008 09:48:54 PM
but I think he's (intentionally) becoming kind of insane and therefore less sympathetic... partially because he IS the rational one in an irrational situation... partly to fill out his character arc that apparently ends up with him drunk and crazy. maybe. it is a mystery why nobody listens to sayeed. sayeed rocks.
Wormhole by Professor_Snarf	Feb 7th, 2008 09:49:02 PM
Probably. Remember Ben told Micheal and Walt to head is a specific direction to get off the island. Plus in the one flashback with the submarine, the passengers were sedated and made reference to the last leg being "a little bumpy" They are definately in the past. It explains how they could acquire people like Locke's dad so easily, Walt's aging, the phones, the polar bear showing up in an archaeological dig.
So maybe Dharma had the island anchored by br1947	Feb 7th, 2008 09:52:17 PM
and blowing the hatch made it become, as Zathras said "un-stuck in time"? That was what the flash was about, the island moving?
Locke's Missing Kidney by CaptainTripps	Feb 7th, 2008 09:53:00 PM
Anyone else love that little explaination about Locke's survival of a gunshot wound? I love when they bring things full circle on this show!!!
Think the hatch blowing by Professor_Snarf	Feb 7th, 2008 09:54:07 PM
sent an energy pulse out of the wormhole, making the wormhole visible, not the island.
The guy in question is Fisher stevens. by GQtaste	Feb 7th, 2008 09:55:12 PM
at least what i'm guessing.
Great episode by TerryMalloy	Feb 7th, 2008 10:00:40 PM
Things I liked: 1) Jeremy Davies. 2) Sawyer beating the shit out of Ben 3) All the losties being bad asses in this episode 4) The one liners by Jack and Locke respectively 5) The actor who played Miles channeling Ben Stiller 6) Locke asking Ben what the monster is
Theory on the polar bear in Tunisia by Spacejockey426	Feb 7th, 2008 10:00:46 PM
The island exists outside of time, or perhaps it is at (or is) the nexus of space/time . . . .
Actually I hate those explanations by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Feb 7th, 2008 10:03:25 PM
Locke's kidney, whatsherfaces coded message, Walt being taller. I'm not an idiot here, I don't need every little thing explained for me. I was hoping there'd be less of that this season since they would be writing most of it without viewer input, but that's didn't happen.
the others drew first blood by nora inu	Feb 7th, 2008 10:07:13 PM
somebody mentioned that the others didn't really starting killing till later, but what people (including, sometimes it seems, lost writers) forget is that the others killed first. ethan killed AND mutilated that steve (or scott? ;)dude way back in season one when he was trying to get the castaways to give claire back to him. this is one of the things that bugged me at times during season three when it seemed like the lost writers were trying to get us to look at the others (particularly mr. friendly among others) in a softer light. that WERE cold blooded killers and they killed FIRST. why should we have any warm feelings toward their motives other than the fact that what they are doing they believe is completely justifiable which makes them even more mistifying and fucked up if they put so much faith in ben and his commune with jacob, a leader that they appear to be accepting on faith... anyhow, fucking cool episode.
Can someone explain how exactly the island by TerryMalloy	Feb 7th, 2008 10:08:11 PM
is a time warp thingy? I don't follow. I'm a moron and I apologize.
Nora Inu by TerryMalloy	Feb 7th, 2008 10:09:51 PM
As a side note, I must say it was much cooler when the others seemed like they were cold-blooded killers who were almost superhuman. Remember how awesome Ethan was as a villain?
So... what shall we call the new guys? by br1947	Feb 7th, 2008 10:10:23 PM
The Other Others? The Outsiders? The Sharks? If I can't know what the fuck is going on, I at least want a name! :-)
Headache Guy by CaptainTripps	Feb 7th, 2008 10:11:46 PM
I agree that the "Walt is taller" explaination is pretty lame, but I was curious to know how Locke survived getting shot. Isn't that what everybody's always bitchin about? Getting answers?
Agent Johnson by TerryMalloy	Feb 7th, 2008 10:12:09 PM
I am a complete victim of the "it wasn't as cool as I imagined" disappointments. You are absolutely right. The contents of the Hatch were a major disappointment to me. Now though, I try to avoid thinking about where it can go and just enjoy it for what it is.
I think the Island is a natural time warp by br1947	Feb 7th, 2008 10:14:37 PM
Dharma discovered a way to anchor it in place and study it. Every 108 minutes the anchor had to be recalibrated or the island would jump to a different place/time. When the hatch blew, the whole thing started jumping again. How the boat got to the island with the helecopters.. fuck I don't know.
Dharma planted the plane? by tristiac	Feb 7th, 2008 10:15:17 PM
goddamn that episode raised a bunch more mysteries and questions. another great one though. So I'm guessing that plane at the bottom of the ocean was planted there by some organization. Dharma? Certainly whoever scary black man works for. He and Naomi certainly seemed to be aware that there could have been survivors, and that the plane crashed in the pacific, not the indian ocean. Also beard man knew that that wasn't the pilot (because of his wedding ring? that seems like a dumb way to figure it out, also what news report shows decomposing bodies like that? but I digress). Also Charlotte doesn't believe the news she sees about the plane going down. I wonder how she knows. and polar bear in tunisia with a dharma collar? I can't even theorize on that one, I'll just have to wait to see how that unfolds. Anyway why go through this big show of lying? Maybe if Dharma knew the plane crashed there because of the electromagnetic anomaly thing, they didn't want the rest of the world snooping around. I mean despite the fact that all the members of Dharma who were on the island died, they still seem to be able to communicate with it. Remember that plane that dropped off food and stuff. And it would make sense that the freighter people are part of Dharma. For one, beard man referred to Juliet as a native, and Dharma was at war with the natives as we saw in Ben's flashback. Also it would make sense that they want Ben, who participated in the purge that killed off all of their people. But why would Dharma put together a group like that to go capture Ben, the great manipulator? Like Naomi said, they had no military training. What's the deal with sixth sense angry asian dude? Whats the need of sending someone who can talk to the dead? Well, if my theory about the big plane cover-up is correct, then It validates my theory as to what the Oceanic 6 are hiding from everyone. As I had previously guessed, they had to make a deal not to reveal all about the island and the people there in exchange for being taken out of the island. There will probably be some story about how they were found somewhere random, and some miraculous story about how they were able to leave the plane before it crashed. Although I still have no idea how they'll explain how a plane leaving australia to Los Angeles ended up in the Indian ocean.
Juliet wasn't a native by br1947	Feb 7th, 2008 10:18:56 PM
Dharma brought her to the island. I do think is was Dharma who planted the 815 wreckage, it makes sense.
Xiphos by TerryMalloy	Feb 7th, 2008 10:20:47 PM
I want more Evangeline Lily in bra and panties
nora inu and Captain tripps by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Feb 7th, 2008 10:21:24 PM
I'm not sure but did the tail section people kill any of the others before Ethan or whoever killed Steve (or Scott). And mr. tripps, I consider the smoke monster and mittelos and stuff questions that need answers, not walt being taller or the washing and drying machine in the hatch being newer than everything else or whatever. We knew locke didn't have his kidney and that the island has special healing qualities, especially for locke, so it didn't seem any big suprise to me. It just seems that they could be talking about other things during the time they waste on little details like that.
If you can get a 747 to trash in the middle of the ocean... by br1947	Feb 7th, 2008 10:21:29 PM
You have the resources to find a few bodies to stock it with.
Wouldn't they figure out that the corpses by TerryMalloy	Feb 7th, 2008 10:21:46 PM
were not the real people on the flight? I mean, aren't there dental records and stuff? Again, I'm a moron.
Juliet by tristiac	Feb 7th, 2008 10:23:08 PM
I know Juliet isn't a native, but it wasn't Dharma that brought her to the island. It was Ben and Richard Alpert and the other natives. So she was part of that group
they gave some excuse about that on the newscast by freydis	Feb 7th, 2008 10:23:57 PM
said they weren't going to attempt to recover the bodies because it would be too difficult, blah blah, maybe seeing the plane and the dead hand would be closure enough for the families.
Re: Wouldn't they figure out that the corpses by br1947	Feb 7th, 2008 10:24:53 PM
not if it's sunk deep enough and given a few weeks for fishes to get ahold of it. Just put it somewhere where you know researchers are planning to go. It's too deep to recover the bodies, so no ID.
I think the families would get closure by TerryMalloy	Feb 7th, 2008 10:25:20 PM
when the news shows the DECOMPOSING BODIES OF THEIR LOVED ONES ON TV. That was just stupid.
good point tristiac, you are correct by br1947	Feb 7th, 2008 10:26:48 PM
I've had one to many WTF? moments.
Headache by CaptainTripps	Feb 7th, 2008 10:29:15 PM
Indeed there are bigger questions to be answered, but I'm a stickler for minutia. Besides they have 38 more hours to fill up, so they have time to waste on the details.
br1947: I think the island is Eden by MGTHEDJ	Feb 7th, 2008 10:29:20 PM
If this has been talked about forgive me, I stayed away fom these TBs last year, but it hit

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