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Will we have a Buffy-Faith throwdown at PaleyFest?
by Pennsy
Feb 6th, 2008
06:29:03 PM
Well?
And where's the Forgetting Sarah Marshall red band trailer TB?
by Pennsy
Feb 6th, 2008
06:29:58 PM
?!
I guess they forgot Sarah Marshall
by Mr Spork
Feb 6th, 2008
06:41:10 PM
See what I did there?
"the best episode of “Buffy’s” seventh season"
by newc0253
Feb 6th, 2008
06:41:38 PM
does that include co-writing credits?

I think the best season 7 ep was 'Conversations With Dead People', which he co-wrote. Goddard also co-wrote 'Lies My Parents Told Me', which i'd put among the top 5. 'Selfless' and 'Dirty Girls' are also pretty great but i suspect you don't mean either of them.

I SUPPORT GIANT DAWN CAVORTING DRUNKENLY WITH SLAYER !
by Pound Sand
Feb 6th, 2008
06:51:48 PM
oh, wait, it's "with 60 slayers?" Well, that's different.
Maybe he'll finally get the new Runaways out now
by commiepinko
Feb 6th, 2008
07:22:17 PM
speaking of which - that should be the next Joss Whedon movie pitch.
Easier world.
by the9points
Feb 6th, 2008
07:50:17 PM
When this was a show not a comic. Still, good comic.
Here's hoping Runaways gets delayed long enough.
by silentbobfan
Feb 6th, 2008
07:52:44 PM
For Marvel to realize how terrible a match Humberto Ramos' style is for Runaways and get someone with a more grounded art style. Seriously, why does Marvel keep giving this guy work that isn't some dumb kids book. He has to be my least favorite artist right now. I'm going to be sad to see Ryan go because even though his art wasn't my favorite it isn't as terrible as Ramos.
My best guess as to who Twilight is.....
by drewlicious
Feb 6th, 2008
08:26:25 PM
I'm going to go with Riley. He's the only non-regular that comes to mind who isn't dead. Except maybe Drusilla who I'm surprised we haven't seen yet but Twilight is clearly a dude. Either that or Giles didn't kill Glory after all and Twilight is some sort of mesh of her and the guy she shared her body with. If you read the issue he does something that made me laugh and pissed me off simultaneously. And where the hell is Warren? We see him a couple issues in and "poof" we don't hear anything since.
LMAO, Mr. Spork...
by Pennsy
Feb 6th, 2008
09:11:01 PM
Shame, AICN! :)
Really enjoying
by moviesaintwhattheyusedtobe
Feb 6th, 2008
10:33:57 PM
Seeing Buffy again. Yea I know it's not the same. Still, pretty damn good. Twilight = Reilly. Doubtful.
Really enjoying
by moviesaintwhattheyusedtobe
Feb 6th, 2008
10:34:03 PM
Seeing Buffy again. Yea I know it's not the same. Still, pretty damn good. Twilight = Reilly. Doubtful.
damn the double post
by moviesaintwhattheyusedtobe
Feb 6th, 2008
10:34:46 PM
My bad
The best episode of Season 7
by moderate
Feb 6th, 2008
10:53:12 PM
The best episode of Season 7 was "Dirty Girls" because it finally introduced one of the greatest villains to come since Angeleus. I off-course am referring to Caleb, the menacing, murderous, ideological and empathy challenged former priest. He really did come with a bang, in addition the episode was directed in an excellent, coherent manner that start with a beginning middle and an end. The entire seventh season was at best mediocre and at worst terrible. "Dirty Girls" was a much needed injection into a show that easily indicated that it was on its last legs. The writers made an awful mistake trying to make "The First" a big bad. In fact the First would have been much greater on Angel considering that the spin-off was a better avenue for complex characters and situations, with a much darker tone than Buffy. What Caleb bought to the show was the perfect antagonist to what the entire show was about. He was this backward thinking, sexist and chauvinistic character who murdered young women. Dirty Girls showed this very well, but it did it so well because the performance was so good that the audience can look at him and make other assumptions about him like whether he was manipulated, disillusioned or just insane? Whether he was betrayed by his faith, these were the facets that the show was badly missing during the seventh season. One of the key problems of the seventh season of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, unlike the other seasons, was that it failed badly in trying to move on from the somewhat weak storylines from the season 6. The first 5-7 episodes focussed poorly on the somewhat semantic relationships between some of the useless characters. Selfless was not a good episode at all, it was about the crappiest character in the history of the show! Even Harmony provided more entertainment. Despite the good production values of the episode, it was boring and it didn't really bring the audience at the edge of their emotional seats. Who the fuck cares if Anya's "past buddy" who was around for 3 episodes dies? She was a SHITE no name character, who gives a rats about the bearded shit head demon man? Man what a shit episode, and by the end, she doesn't even die, they all just declare "Well that crappy characters dead now, lets just go home and watch TV". "Selfless" was the episode that showed what was wrong with Season 7. But despite that, Drew Goddard is a brilliant writer and that episode can be considered an abberation.
She was wanking?
by James_O'Nasty
Feb 7th, 2008
12:02:39 AM
"Page one is the Littlest Slayer batting righty?" WTF??? When will Xander pound Buffy's box...eight years, give the guy some non-annoying pussy! FUCK ANYA.
Cloverfield had a writer?
by elab49
Feb 7th, 2008
03:18:11 AM
While I disagree about the Buffy comment the more pertinent link to the above statement is he also wrote pretty much the worst epis of the final Angel season. Alias and Lost aren't much to write home about either.
wow, moderate, i couldn't disagree more
by newc0253
Feb 7th, 2008
03:21:35 AM
season 7 gets some bizarre hate on AICN talkbacks but it may actually be my favourite season. the slow ramping up of the mystery of the First, esp the stretch between the final scene of ep 7.1 to 'Conversations With Dead People' is nothing short of fantastic.

As for the hate for 'Selfless', Buffy has long used the 'flashbacks to build characterisation' technique stretching back to season 2, but there isn't a more perfect example of it in the whole show than 'Selfless'.

"...who wrote the best episode of “Buffy’s” seventh season"
by SUPERJIM
Feb 7th, 2008
03:49:05 AM

What? Buffy had a good episode in Season 7? I will have to re-watch them.

Seriously though, I don't get why we have been this long without a series from Joss Whedon on TV. It is by far his best medium. Come on joss, get cranking out something from the BuffyVerse, you know you can make something good and make a fortune from it, what's stopping you?

Season 7
by godric
Feb 7th, 2008
08:20:21 AM
I rarely chime in here, but now I must because even though I agree that Season 7 is the weakest, "Selfless" is one of my top 5 eps of the ENTIRE series. It's genius.
Best Season 7 Ep
by moviesaintwhattheyusedtobe
Feb 7th, 2008
11:28:24 AM
Lies My Mother Told Me featuring Spike's mother issues. No, she was not a Milf.
Season 7 was weakest
by hst666
Feb 7th, 2008
12:45:55 PM
What I do not get is the Season 6 hate. When it was first run, I thought it was sort of bleak and other than the last three episodes, I was not that thrilled with it. Bt on DVD, I realized how great that season was and how FUNNY that season was However, Season 7 had a half dozen good episodes and a lot of mediocre and occasionally turgid episodes.
Best of S7
by BeatsMe
Feb 7th, 2008
01:02:26 PM
Conversations with Dead People Lies My Parents Told Me (one of the few that actually got the old epic feel of the show back) The One Where Buffy Closes the Door on Giles (forget the name) Selfless (mostly just because Anya was pretty much my favorite character on the show)
Dirty Girls and Selfless
by oisin5199
Feb 7th, 2008
01:53:38 PM
Don't forget that Dirty Girls shows a range of attitudes towards women, from innocent to creepy to dangerous. Besides Caleb's extreme misogyny we get Xander's group fantasy, and Andrew's objectification of Faith through the male gaze. I'm sure there's other stuff I'm forgetting. But that episode was interesting for its connecting theme as much as it was for introducing Caleb.

I also think that Selfless was a great episode. The killing of Halfrek was besides the point. It's all about Anya, and whether she can be a demon again, or whether she can take responsibility for killing. The title says it all - great pun, because Anya has no self. She's always been defined by either the men around her, whether it's the Troll guy, D'Hoffryn, or Xander, or by her job description, either vengeance demon, girlfriend, or retail clerk. Plus who could not love the hilariously subtitled black and white grainy 'flashback,' the great 'lost song' from the 'Once More with Feeling' era that underscores Anya's search for identity by having her trying out married names, and the brutally honest argument between Xander and Buffy about when it's ok to kill someone you formerly cared about because they've gone evil. The whole episode was worth that scene, as it's the first time that Xander's lie to Buffy from the end of season 2 (not telling her to wait for Willow's spell) is exposed. Now that's story arcing - a great way to recall 5 year old events and make them resonate. I also loved 'Conversations,' so yeah, Drew definitely wrote the best season 7 episodes.

"The One Where Buffy Closes the Door on Giles"
by newc0253
Feb 7th, 2008
02:19:23 PM
is Lies My Parents Told Me.
"Sorry, itchy neck."
by Zardoz
Feb 7th, 2008
10:54:35 PM
Yeah, that was pretty damn funny! But how long is this Twilight arc going to be? I don't want to keep getting interrupted by guest writers with new stories all the time; don't be such a tease!
season 7
by nora inu
Feb 8th, 2008
12:46:27 AM
sure, arc-wise season 7 was weaker than the others (i believe season 5 was the best overall serialized story), but 7 had some incredibly good stand alone episodes, which may have even been part of the problem as they appeared to be having so much fun writing good episodes they didn't want to deal with actually having to end the series and connect everything together. though that being said i thought they ending was quite majestic and thematically, the idea of her empowering all the slayer chicks was ridiculously perfect and a genius way to end a show that was at its core a feminist manifesto.
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