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I just got off the phone with Jim Belushi... by Uncle Stan	Feb 5th, 2008 06:09:58 AM
Is Obama the sexiest tomboy beanpole around?
Kurt Russel approves of OBAMA by vini77	Feb 5th, 2008 06:11:41 AM
So I'm down too
It's about the only single thing you owe society by KazamaSmokers	Feb 5th, 2008 06:12:12 AM
You have no excuse for not voting. And a real moral obligation to do it.
Lets get out and vote!! by Zino	Feb 5th, 2008 06:12:58 AM
"Let's make our voices heard. We've been given the right to choose between a doooouche and a tuuuuuurd!'
Harry has chosen Obama and here's why... by SkinJob69	Feb 5th, 2008 06:17:58 AM
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We have given up by vikingkitty	Feb 5th, 2008 06:18:42 AM
I'm sorry to say conservatives have given up on the presidency this election. I don't know how things turned out so badly. On the bright side, a few years of anti-business, borderline socialist incompetence from the democrats should really tank the stock market for several years. Those of use under 40 should prepare for great buy and hold opportunities.
And make sure it's for RON PAUL you're voting by ricarleite	Feb 5th, 2008 06:20:07 AM
Unfortunately he will be assassinated if he gets the nomination, so it won't matter. He is messing with some serious shit.
WELCOME TO LET'S PATRONISE THE READERSHIP...!!! by Greigy Just Wanted To Say	Feb 5th, 2008 06:25:14 AM

WELCOME TO LET'S PATRONISE THE READERSHIP...!!! by Greigy Just Wanted To Say	Feb 5th, 2008 06:25:16 AM

Obama by rosasaks	Feb 5th, 2008 06:33:13 AM
Hilarious segment on one of the news channels last night. One of those political focus groups had just been waxing lyrical about Barack Obama for several minutes, saying how much they loved him, when one of the studio anchors asked them collectively to name something they respect him for accomplishing. Cue the sound of the focus groups' jaws all dropping through the floor as it dawned on them that they couldn't think of a single answer, and that they knew next to nothing about the guy they had just been fellating and wanted to elect president, apart from the vague notion that they kind of like the idea of him personally. This is why Clinton absolutely demolishes him during substantive debates, yet nobody appears to notice. This election is AT LEAST four years too early for him. He should be vice president.
Fuck Ron Paul! David Palmer for Prez! by Stalkeye	Feb 5th, 2008 06:33:19 AM
Er, I meant Obama..sowwies.
Last day of Ron Paul spam by Mullah Omar	Feb 5th, 2008 06:34:31 AM
My hope is that after voters in all of today's 24 states shun him, people will put down their crack pipes and focus on real candidates.
I HEART HUCKABEE! by newc0253	Feb 5th, 2008 06:39:13 AM
no, really i don't. i was just saying that cause this is a movie site and that's some funny shit right there.
David Palmer? The "HELLO" guy from "Crazy People"? by ricarleite	Feb 5th, 2008 06:40:23 AM
The guy from Payback who kept saying "you're not gonna fucking kill me are you"? OH that's David Paymer. Oops. By the way, Ron Paul is the only serious candidate with a real solution, but he will never get the nomination, and if he did, he would be assassinated within days. The powers that be would NEVER, EVER let this guy be president, too much money at risk.
My post? by Jett	Feb 5th, 2008 06:47:37 AM
i had a post and it disaapeard, thats kinda odd anyway vote obama so that hillary doesn't win
CLINTON ALL THE WAY by BringingSexyBack	Feb 5th, 2008 06:54:18 AM
Only because that will drive some of the wingnuts Talkbackers to suicide, and that's the most important thing on my agenda.
This message paid for by the Barak Obama campaign by Halloween68	Feb 5th, 2008 06:56:27 AM
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GORE / HAGEL 08 by BringingSexyBack	Feb 5th, 2008 06:57:09 AM
Mark my words this will happen. I'm using The Secret to make them run independently.
MCCAIN 2008 by Ashok0	Feb 5th, 2008 06:58:29 AM
Only Mac can beat the b!tch.
WASHINGTONIANS PORTRAIT by Gunslinger1919	Feb 5th, 2008 07:01:43 AM
I needed to laugh this morning...this had me on the floor BRINGINGSEXYBACK. I just recently saw THE WASHINGTONIANS. If you haven't seen it, it portrays the founding fathers as cannibals. In it there's a painting that Washington commissioned once he became president. It's him eating flesh surrounded by bare breasted, blood covered women. So my friends and I have been playing a game. What would the painting of each of our candidates be like. Personally I think Hillary's painting would portray her eating some muff with her hubby getting a BJ in the background... OBAMA ALL THE WAY! --G
I KINDA LIKE MCCAIN by BringingSexyBack	Feb 5th, 2008 07:02:56 AM
and if it weren't for Bush utterly ruining this country for the last 8 years and the Republican party transforming itself into a hotbed of NeoCon lapdogs, Fox fuckups, robber barons and self-hating hypocritical homosexuals, I might consider him. But the Reps need to clean house in a big way before they get a shot at the WH.
We are not going to have a Muslim President by Sick Fixx	Feb 5th, 2008 07:06:45 AM
Not now. Not ever. PERIOD.
this could be a very funny TB by Lost Jarv	Feb 5th, 2008 07:08:42 AM
or it could degenerate into a spamfest of unfunny headlines. That portrait idea is brutal- I personally see Blair being painted deep-throating Uncle Sam, and his successor Brown as Fagin with his hands in everyone's pockets- whilst being simultaneously cornoled by Sarkozy.
and in america by Lost Jarv	Feb 5th, 2008 07:09:38 AM
I think an ace portrait of the current incumbent would literally be as a monkey struggling to unpeel a banana. Yuo know this to be true, although I suppose these are more cartoons,
If Hilary doesn't get the delegates today by Sick Fixx	Feb 5th, 2008 07:09:56 AM
Will she cry again?
holeeeee shit... by DocPazuzu	Feb 5th, 2008 07:10:27 AM
Talkback gonna 'SPLODE!
GUNSLINGER by BringingSexyBack	Feb 5th, 2008 07:12:48 AM
That must be a commentary on how Bush/Cheney and the Republicans have utterly cannibalized our country. Have you seen Bush's "plan" to solve the economic crisis? He infused it with the most insanely optimistic forecasts. The man is an Enron accountant.
Personally, I'm voting for BLU-RAY by YackBacker	Feb 5th, 2008 07:16:10 AM
It's the lesser of the two evils.
Sick Fixx is an ass by thebadsleepwell	Feb 5th, 2008 07:18:03 AM
Charming sir. Charming.
Viking Kitty by thebadsleepwell	Feb 5th, 2008 07:20:21 AM
Yes, because the conservatives have done a fantastic job with our economy and our country! Way to go! I miss Georgy Boy already
No Muslim Prez this time around for a logical reason by MikeO	Feb 5th, 2008 07:21:16 AM
Namely, there aren't any running. Sick - Obama ain't Muslim. Don't let his Muslim father's naming and the right-wing smearmails fool you. He's a practicing Christian. Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Barack_Obama) can tell you that and a whole lot more about him that is, you know, the truth.
ROSASAKS by BringingSexyBack	Feb 5th, 2008 07:21:55 AM
There was a segment on Bill Maher where a CNN correspondent was interviewing women in a salon that caters to a black clientele. All of them supported Obama, and they gave reasons that had more to do with personality and assumptions about his character than anything to do with his proposals and policies. They're like Oprah, whom I despise deeply. If Obama is a worthy candidate, then let him earn his support on the issues, not the color of his skin. To vote because he's black is as bad as voting against him for the same reason.
Animal Structure Sucks Ass by messi	Feb 5th, 2008 07:23:41 AM
I had to say it.
Ahhh...political insight from the same people who brought you... by zacdilone	Feb 5th, 2008 07:25:07 AM
..."LIKE A PUSSY THAT EATS YOU OUT!" Nothing sweeter.
HIllary = Robot. by Judge Briggs	Feb 5th, 2008 07:25:21 AM
Swear I saw her in the background of the future war in T2. She is a cyborg, no denying that! Still, way better than our dunce of a prez Bush.
Simple Harry hoodwinked again by Stan Gable	Feb 5th, 2008 07:26:07 AM
Harry you sound just like every other Obama supporter when asked to articulate why you like him. Words like "charismatic" are all you can come up with. Presidents are supposed to be more than rhetoric and speeches, yet that is all Obama has in his favor. What has Obama said that has not been said by EVERY SINGLE out of office party candidate in the history of American politics? Change, change, change is all that Obama ever says, but change to what? Does Harry even know what his positions and plans are, or is a loud voice that reminds him of a guy in a movie all it takes to get the vote of fat middle America? People who tell you that you should vote for Obama because he is charismatic are insulting you intelligence. David Duke and Al Sharpton are charismatic in their own way too. Obama is going to end partisan politics in Washington? Every presidential candidate from either party has said the same thing in every election year and guess what - it doesn't happen and it will not ever happen. Voting for Obama is just one step away from voting for George Clooney or Sean Penn for president - put up a charismatic personality and Harry will cream his XXXXXXXL undies and vote.
VIKINGKITTY KNOWS SHIT ABOUT ECONOMICS by BringingSexyBack	Feb 5th, 2008 07:26:16 AM
That's the only explanation for why he/she/it would think things are fine under Bush. If Bush was a bookkeeper his boss would take him into the alley for fucking up so bad. But no, people think he's just swell. Fucking tools.
If Obama is given the nomination we get 4 more years of a Red pr by knowthyself	Feb 5th, 2008 07:26:28 AM
Let's put a democrat on the ticket who can actually win this thing eh?
Barack Saddam Hussein Obama Bin Laden-damadingdong. by knowthyself	Feb 5th, 2008 07:27:18 AM

Hilary = sobbing idiot by Steve Rogers	Feb 5th, 2008 07:33:18 AM
Seriously, what is she going to do when trade talks get nasty or the President of China gives her shit? Turn on the water-works? PUH-LEAZE.
Hillary is a piece of shit too by Stan Gable	Feb 5th, 2008 07:36:08 AM
Here is a woman who irritates her husband so badly that he could not control himself from seeking blow jobs from fat interns in the White House during his presidency. Then when he ran our of lies and was forced to admit to the American people that he did it and had treated his wife like a piece of shit - she stood by his side through the entire thing just to prolong her political aspirations. Now, while she gets up on podiums and yells at audiences like your mom bitching at you for getting a C- on your algebra test, Bill stands behind her arguing and pointing his finger at the press like some bulldog. You people really want this low-class soap opera back in the White House??? 5 years ago when Hillary was looking at the same intel that Bush had about weapons of mass destruction she was all for taking out Saddam. Now that "end the war" and "change" are all you have to yell to get votes, she wants to pretend like her Senate votes didn't count. Vote for Hillary and enjoy having your wages garnished if you don't elect to participate in her socialist health care plans. Bush's approval rating has been in the 30's for a year, the door is wide open for a Democrat in the White House and Hillary and Obama are the best you can come up with???? McCain leads both of them in a head to head match up right now.
ROMNEY WAS ON GOOD MORNING AMERICA by BringingSexyBack	Feb 5th, 2008 07:36:45 AM
touting Laura Ingraham and Sean Hannity's endorsements. McCain couldn't have asked for better.
socialist health care plans? Kind of like..SOCIAL SECURITY. by knowthyself	Feb 5th, 2008 07:42:43 AM
And Medicare and Medicaid! GASP! America is turning into Communist China!!! Run for your lives!!!
Vote or Die, mutha@$#! by kafka07	Feb 5th, 2008 07:46:31 AM
As if we weren't doomed either way.
I choose Jack Johnson over John Jackson and here's why by knowthyself	Feb 5th, 2008 07:48:16 AM
Sorry had to throw in a Futurama joke.
Stan Gable by HEADGEEK	Feb 5th, 2008 07:49:18 AM
That's because the policy differences between Hillary and Obama are not that different. The bills that Obama co-sponsored in the Senate are the subject matters I care most about... Environment, Care for invalided troops, election fraud. Then - as for Hillary - I remember that she and Bill ran on the promise of UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE throughout their election to get Bill president - and then when she was put in charge - she allowed the Republicans to completely out-flank her and totally screwed the pooch on that subject matter. --- BUT the defining line to me is to have a leader who can inspire CONFIDENCE in the government, the electoral process and can project intelligence and growth as a country to the greater world we live in. It'd be nice to have a president that wants to reach across the party lines to build a coalition here at home, as well as abroad.
STAN GABLE by BringingSexyBack	Feb 5th, 2008 07:50:25 AM
My crotch ain't exactly dripping with excitement on the Left side of the aisle but I'm being pragmatic about my choices. I'd back McCain if your party weren't so utterly in shit. I don't know if you're a NeoCon but if you're a true Conservative you'd want your party just cleaned out. I wish the Dems had better candidates but we work with what we've got. Anyway the Illuminati have chosen Hillary so that's that. About Hillary's vote - let's clear that up for the millionth time. Post 9/11, the Dems rallied around the President in a patriotic fashion. Their vote was to give Bush leverage to pressure Hussein into capitulation, not an outright endorsement for an invasion. Because face it, Bush is a madman no one saw coming (but they should have, if they had done their homework on the NeoCons who had already infilitrated the Administration). As for wages being slashed to support universal health care ... those McCarthyite scare tactics are so worn out. Bush has slashed taxes for the wealthy while drawing up a new economic plan that will drive our nation further into record debt, caused untold miliary and civilian casualties, tried to hand over Social Security to the same banks that caused a financial crisis (with more news of losses in the consumer and corporate credit sectors to come), ETCETERA ... and that's the best you've got on Clinton? Get real.
knowthyself, you truly are an idiot by Stan Gable	Feb 5th, 2008 07:52:57 AM
You must be if you enjoy paying for programs that don't benefit you. Standard social security withdrawals from your paycheck, assuming you managed to get a job, benefit today's old people - it won't be there when YOU need it. Now Hillary wants to propose garnishing your wages if you don't pay into the national health care plan she wants to establish. I'm sure your Burger King paycheck doesn't go very far as it is - enjoy even less of it with Hillary in office.
Universal health care?? by kafka07	Feb 5th, 2008 07:54:07 AM
Yeah right, what kind of country do you think this is? Next thing you know, you'll be demanding public schools, and garbage pick-up, social security, food stamps, etc. Damn communists. Suck it up, we need all those trillion$ of tax dollars for the war and the wealthy.
Garnish my wages? by tonagan	Feb 5th, 2008 07:55:15 AM
Mmmmm... garnish...
I'm not voting today. Why, do you ask? by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Feb 5th, 2008 07:56:22 AM
Because the election is in November. I'm an independent. I always have been. Sometimes I vote for a Democrat, sometimes a Republican. I voted for Ross Perot when he was running (dating myself here). Bottom line is I vote for the candidate who is the best person for the job. I don't care about their party, race, sex, I vote for who I think will do the best job.
Obama by jaweekes	Feb 5th, 2008 07:56:28 AM
I voted for Obama. I like his views on immigration (I'm from the UK originally, so it matters to me). He has a solid tech stance (He wants net neutrality ), and many more topics (including Iraq). He IS different from Clinton in a lot of his views, and I think he will be the man to get things done, as he is not against talking to the other side (he's done it before) and compromising on issues to get shit done.
Preston/Partridge '08 by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Feb 5th, 2008 07:57:18 AM
Time for a change in government.
STAN GABLE by BringingSexyBack	Feb 5th, 2008 07:58:15 AM
How do you know Social Security won't be there? What in the hell are you talking about? Don't tell me. You bought Bush's line that was used to scare the public into handing Soc Sec over to the private sector. That disaster averted would have been the greatest financial heist in history.
We all keep society up and running. by knowthyself	Feb 5th, 2008 07:58:35 AM
Face it and if you don't want to contribute to the greater good then get the hell out of this country. We pay taxes to fund the government to keep our way of life going. Don't like it go somewhere else. The truth is theirs a little bit of socialism in our democractic capitalistic society, its necessary but kept in check. Thank goodness I don't work at Burger King and my decent salary at my brokerage firm keeps me living just fine.
Seriously though if there was a Clinton/Obama by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Feb 5th, 2008 08:00:01 AM
ticket or Obama/Clinton ticket it would be unstoppable. I don't think it would be good for this country. Obama maybe, Clinton, absolutely not. If Obama wins the Democratic primary I don't think Hillary would want the VP spot if offered. She does not want to be second to anybody, and in four or eight years I don't see her running again for the top spot.
So Obama gives good speeches but he too liberal, IMO! by captboulder	Feb 5th, 2008 08:00:32 AM
C'mon the guy has done next to nothing and yet some are actually fawning over this!? Its almost like he went to a George W. Bush College!
Oh and my dad is retired. I'm glad my check goes to pay for his by knowthyself	Feb 5th, 2008 08:00:58 AM
Do you realize how much money we send to other countries for aid and yet we have so many Americans living under the poverty level? Go to the Appalachia regions of the south and you'll swear that you've flown to some small third world country.
I SUPPORT JOE JOHNSTON FOR PRESIDENT by BringingSexyBack	Feb 5th, 2008 08:02:00 AM
because he directed Mighty Joe Young and everyone is brainwashed into thinking he didn't except me and Anchorite. It's another conspiracy in a long line of conspiracies.
knowthyself, all the complainers about by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Feb 5th, 2008 08:03:04 AM
Socialism don't get what you just said. There is a little bit in our society. Unemployment benefits, social security, health programs for the poor. As long as it is kept in check, and the money is not wasted, but used for good, a little socialism is a good thing. Are there any Canadians out there who would like to chime in on the free healthcare by the government? I've heard good things and bad things about it.
It's too bad the term NeoCon still doesn't strike fear like Libe by Stan Gable	Feb 5th, 2008 08:03:39 AM
Frankly neither of those terms really make a difference. Tax cuts for the wealthy? Millionaires still pay 40% in taxes while the poor pay almost nothing and get most of the free programs. As along as there is poverty and even one millionaire (not counting the Clintons) exists, liberals will be saying the rich aren't taxed enough. Head Geek so you like Obama because he is for the environment and opposes election fraud - wow those are really risky, ground-breaking positions he has taken. I'm still not hearing anything to make me believe you base your position on anything other than who gets the most celebrity endorsements. I know I want Oprah picking my president. As for Democrats, they are the masters of scare tactics - every time a Republican gets in office, Rowe v. Wade is supposedly going to be overturned, minorities are going to lose affirmative action, elderly will lose medicare, and lo and behold, none of those things have happened either.
RON PAUL! by StrokerX	Feb 5th, 2008 08:05:36 AM
Is the man though....you all know it to be true. Ron Paul for Jesus 08'!
I can't imagine the fools who fought against free education. by knowthyself	Feb 5th, 2008 08:05:39 AM
Probably the same fools who fought against national healthcare. "Why should I pay for your child to go to school for free?" I don't know because its a right every person should have? Just like the right to healthcare without paying $20,000 for that MRI you needed?
Minorities losing affirmative action is not a by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Feb 5th, 2008 08:07:03 AM
bad thing Stan. This is the 21st century. We don't have slaves out there picking cotton. Like MLK said people should be judged by their character, not color. Pick the best person for the job; black, white or green. Sex is irrelevent; man, woman, hermaphrodite - pick the best person for the job.
"Change" by rosasaks	Feb 5th, 2008 08:07:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =D8gLYZV6Z4g&NR=1#
WHAT HAPPENED TO HUCKABEE? by BringingSexyBack	Feb 5th, 2008 08:08:10 AM
I guess the Chuckinator ain't that great an endorsement after all.
There are good and bad things about Socialised Health by Lost Jarv	Feb 5th, 2008 08:08:36 AM
but, really, the good outweigh the bad. I find it astounding that there isn't a "State Health Service" in America. It's really, really strange,
I'm surprised no one's used the Cthulu joke by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Feb 5th, 2008 08:08:43 AM
Why choose the lesser of two evils.
GRAMMATON SPEAKUM TRUTH by BringingSexyBack	Feb 5th, 2008 08:10:03 AM
Ditch Affirmative Action. Too many slackers making it through the system. If you can do the job, you're hired. If you're gonna sleepwalk through it, find work with someone dumb enough to hire you. Nuff said.
What Election Day 2008 Means to Me (at the moment) by HillaryLovesMe	Feb 5th, 2008 08:11:04 AM
1. It means that the GOP is no longer the conservative party, at least in terms of such obsolete conservative issues like national sovereignty, fiscal minimalism, and individual rights. Of all the Republican candidates only Ron Paul has consistently stood for those things; but except for a handful of conservatives most GOP voters are desperately trying to distance themselves from his supposed radicalism. Ronald Reagan might have disapproved of bits of Paul's agenda, but he would have firmly supported him over the other bottom-feeders he's going up against. The GOP has since 9/11 transformed into a party of xenophobes who are willing to hand over the rest of their agenda to leftists in order to concentrate on the dubious dual policy of sealing up the US border like a new Maginot Line and engaging in excitingly expensive foreign adventures. This is sickening to anyone who was once a conservative Republican, like myself. (I'm either a libertarian or an anarcho-capitalist, depending on how much conservatives irritate me with their stupid, self-righteous hypocrisy.) * 2. It means that Democrats will yet again staunchly stick by the mush-brained belief that "compromise" isn't just a euphemism for "selling out" (which it is). Luckily for Democrats, the Democrat notion of compromise means "demonizing Republicans until they cave in". When Obama bin Liberal says he wants to reach across party lines and unite America, he means he wants to shame whites, males, employers, gun owners, the wealthy, and Christians into abandoning their principles. This is leftist power politics, as driven by Harry Knowles's beloved populism. * 3. It means that as always in a representative democracy, the majority gets to shove around the minority, thanks to the democratic belief that whatever the majority of voters want is sacred. No matter how stupid, prudish, intolerant, or blatantly acquisitive those wants are. We're told that it's so righteous and noble to mug one group and "redistribute" the loot to another group. But who is saying this? The politicians, on the one hand, who get to indulge in the most exultant drug known to humankind: the power to control other human beings. And on the other hand, the voters, who get free stuff they didn't pay for. Is it any wonder why those in power are going to expound on the eternal virtues of a system of which they are the direct beneficiaries? A simple study of human nature suggests that the ability of humans to rationalize their actions is highly efficient. However. We are told, fairly enough, that anyone who has a personal interest in a policy is biased -- e.g., Halliburton's lobbyists in Washington. But what are voters but people with an obvious biased personal interest? A Christian voter has an interest in coercing the love of Jesus onto others. A welfare-receiving voter has an interest in getting free money. A welfare-advocating voter has an interest in feeling self-righteous about being the savior of the people. All these biased individuals have several things in common. For one, they have no scruples about shoving their moral values onto others. What is compassion? A conservative and a liberal will staunchly disagree, but both will eagerly insist that they have the power to coerce other people into obeying their moral beliefs. (They will each accuse the other of being bad people, of course. This is the only valid way of justifying the coercion.) Modern politics can be divided into two categories of policy: moral prudery, and acquisitiveness. Say you're a member of a certain religion, or at least a philosophy; is it tolerance to demand that everyone else obey what you feel is the one and only true path to compassion and justice? A sincerely tolerant person will say no, and will denounce the modern political process. A bigot won't care about the question, and will vote in November. Acquisitiveness, I mentioned above; it relates to the ability of people to justify anything that benefits themselves personally. What is carefully left out of all the wonderful-sounding rhetoric extolling welfare is the consent of those paying for it all. Are people who disagree with welfare "greedy"? Again, a shameless bigot would say "Yes, of course; such people disagree with me, and are therefore evil people." In a democracy like ours, it is impossible to disagree without being a bad person. If you oppose economic regulation and taxation, then you're a "greedy" person who hates poor people. If you oppose state-funded abortions for 14-year old girls, then you are a misogynist. If you oppose public education, then you hate children. If you oppose immigration controls, then you hate Anglo-Saxon culture. If you oppose affirmative action, then you hate blacks, Hispanics, and women. If you oppose the Patriot Act, then you're a traitor. If you oppose the War on Terror, then you're an Al Qaeda sympathizer. The list goes on, my friends, ad infinitum. (And people wonder why politics routinely gets so nasty.) Self-interest and moral intolerance come together as squalid zealotry in the democratic process. A group as large as the American population will never agree on anything. Barack Obama will never convince all Americans to agree with him. The most he can do is get elected to force the dissenters to pretend to agree with him. And is that really a united America, in which one group gloatingly gets to order around another group, which has to obey or get locked up like the uncivilized animals that they are? The election in 2008 means that the American people will get what they want, but will still lose.
Grammaton Cleric, I agree completely by Stan Gable	Feb 5th, 2008 08:12:12 AM
I'm using it as an example where democrats believe that affirmative action should go on for eternity and use it's diminishment as a scare tactic to keep minorities in their party.
Obama: by call7000	Feb 5th, 2008 08:13:53 AM
The only candidate who's talked for a year and a half and said absolutely nothing. I dislike Hillary as well, but at least she has something more to add to the debate than lame clicje's about "hope" and "change". i'll be voting Romney. The only guy approaching a responsible adult in this whole mess. Plus? He'll keep your taxes low. GOTV.
I live in Seattle by BadMrWonka	Feb 5th, 2008 08:15:28 AM
someone here went around to all the Ron Paul signs, cut out the 'u', flipped it upside down and used it to cover the 'o', so that every sign said Ru Paul. pretty fucking funny. and where is AnimalStructure? guess he doesn't get up this early. stayed up late writing his treatise on how Southern Conservative saved the civil rights movement. (and I wish I were joking, but he really does believe it)
i'm voting for pie! by BMacSmith	Feb 5th, 2008 08:15:30 AM
again
I got a creepy McCain phone msg by gotilk	Feb 5th, 2008 08:15:47 AM
Talking about more nutbags being appointed to the supreme court... clap-trap about values (I'll get mine at Costco, thank you very much... cause yours mostly suck).. and more clap-trap about the war against extremist Islam. First of all, almost everything the supreme court has done in the past few years has been nuttier than anything even the most liberal court has decided on in the last 20 years. Secondly, if "values" wasn't a code word for "I'm going to shape the law based on the beliefs of religious extremists", I'd be cool with it. But it IS a code word. Thirdly, as much as I personally despise religion, a "war against" any religion, extreme faction or not, is utterly stupid and alienates in most cases half the world. We need less of that and more kicking the asses of individual nutbags. Let Islam work itself out. Give it some space along with fewer reasons to hate us and it just might. I really rooted for McCain. And I do realize he's really going for those people's votes right now, so I kind of understand. But man, he just about shit on every reason I liked him with that single voice mail. Bad form.
Health care is not a "right" by call7000	Feb 5th, 2008 08:15:59 AM
Point that one out for me in the constitution please. Must be in the same article that talks about a right to abortions.
Kurt Russel approves of OBAMA by Dr. Stanley Goodspeed	Feb 5th, 2008 08:19:56 AM
thanks vini77... that just made up my mind for me.
Education is not a right. by knowthyself	Feb 5th, 2008 08:20:56 AM
Lets abolish the public school system. Better yet lets abolish social security...watch the old people vote against whoever is for that bit of insanity. While were at it lets get rid of garbage pick up. Thats not a right. Take your own damn garbage to the sanitation department. No one has a right to anything. Everyone for themselves. In fact we shouldn't even pay taxes. Your son is retarded...sorry we shouldn't have to pay for his special education. Your mom is retired? Sorry get her ass back to work were not paying for it. Oh you just got fired? Sorry were not paying you for that. You have no right to money just because your unemployed.
I love how the Republicans are branded as the "religious" party by Stan Gable	Feb 5th, 2008 08:21:33 AM
And yet Billary Clinton is in a church every chance they get and no one calls them out for catering to the religious sect of their party. Face it, a large portion of our population are God-fearing church goers and they vote for both democrats and republicans. I certainly don't feel like I'm living in a church state after 8 years of Bush any more than I did under 8 years of Clinton. Frankly I don't want Pat Robertson dictating policy any more than I want Al Sharpton doing it. Political candidates have to humor these people in order to get votes, but they don't really influence anything.
only in an AICN talkback... by BadMrWonka	Feb 5th, 2008 08:23:32 AM
can you find people across the spectrum of political ideology coming together. from those that know nothing about conservative politics, to those who know nothing about liberal politics. and everyone in the middle regurgitating something from one of their freshman college courses. it's truly a thing of beauty. collective ignorance is a great means for togetherness. from "hillary is a robot" to "obama has no voting record" to "democrats are socialists" to "I'm voting for Ron Paul"...ALL THE IDIOTS ARE HERE!!! it's a political down-syndrome free-for-all!! have a great Super Tuesderrrrrrrrrr
You want to live in the country .... by knowthyself	Feb 5th, 2008 08:24:17 AM
...that allows your six figure salary? Well then you better contribute to it thats for damn sure.
When you vote for the US, you vote for the world. by ChadMaul	Feb 5th, 2008 08:24:38 AM
I am Scottish, our politicians have very little impact on the world. Even if I classed myself as British the influence we have in the world only marginally increases. You are Americans, your politicians shape the free world, and in doing so have a hand in the how the rest follow suit. Please go out and vote, and vote Obama or Hilary, but not McCain. The world of politics needs at least a token gesture (African-American or Woman) to leap forward into the 21st centuary.
hillary loves me by Lost Jarv	Feb 5th, 2008 08:25:16 AM
Having waded through that ill thought out diatribe, I have to ask one question: are you anti-democracy? Because that's sure as fuck what you appear to be.
Obama is more than optimism... by ConquestMelee	Feb 5th, 2008 08:25:44 AM
The majority of attacks against Barack Obama point to his "empty rhetoric" and "inexperience". Both allegations are completely false. His policies have been outlined on the campaign trail, on the internet (www.barackobama.com), and in an endless amount of debates. To give a brief summation, he promotes an improved foreign policy with greater diplomacy and a controled withdrawl from Iraq. He offers a Health Care plan that, through subsidies, will be affordable to every American. With the economy in peril, he offers a comprehensive plan addressing the burdens faced by a 21st century middle class. In fact, every issue imaginable is addressed in his outlined policy on www.barackobama.com . Now, for the inexperience issue. Obama excelled at Harvard, earning a law degree and becoming the first African-American to be named President of the Harvard Law Review. He took that experience and used it to fight for the working man. As a community organizer, he brought competing interest together on common ground to make progress for those in need. At the same time, he taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago. With such an extensive knowledge of government & the needs of the people, the next obvious step was elected office. In the Illionis State Legislature, Obama worked with both parties to fix Health Care, along with many other issues. (See Outlined State Record at www.nytimes.com/imagepages/200 7/07/ 29/us/politics/ 20070730_OBAMA_GRAPHIC.html) For Change rooted in logic and the right experience, choose Barack Obama as our next President. Harry knows what I'm talking about. Its just difficult to get people to listen beyond the rhetoric. In any event, happy voting to all! SEE "Tomorrow for Obama" at... www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaZiH- gDVVk
"Lets abolish the public school system" by call7000	Feb 5th, 2008 08:26:32 AM
Wow. In a load of crap you managed to make one good point. Well done, genius.
Just say no to shrill hypocrites in ugly pantsuits by SpyGuy	Feb 5th, 2008 08:28:16 AM
Do you really want four to eight years of Hillary and Bill telling you how to act, talk, walk, think and essentially control every facet of your existence? C'mon, people...Enough with the co-dependency already.
Obama has the most liberal voting record in the Senate by rainbowtrout1265	Feb 5th, 2008 08:28:56 AM
So how is he not partisan? FWIW, I'm a Conservative who would prefer Hillary if I had to choose between the two. At least she would have some balls regarding issues of national defense. Obama is a cupcake who would get rolled.
Obama's bin laden. by Catnip_Thieves	Feb 5th, 2008 08:31:28 AM
Earlier today, presidential candidate Barrack Obama was seen visibly upset at the state of his wheelie refuse receptacle, which was full and had yet to be collected. More on this as it breaks.
Don't look at me. I voted for Kodos. by ricarleite	Feb 5th, 2008 08:33:46 AM

VOTE FSM 2008! by Flying Spaghetti Monster	Feb 5th, 2008 08:36:37 AM
SEARCH THY HEART
Hilary's the cupcake!!! by Sick Fixx	Feb 5th, 2008 08:37:34 AM
Twice now she's cried in public when she hasn't gotten her way. She is revealing herself to be too feminine for the job. She obviously can't handle pressure like she thought.
Don't vote FSM in 2008. by Lost Jarv	Feb 5th, 2008 08:39:18 AM
There's only one candidate. VOTE FOR A DOSE OF TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION to the white house.
I'd like to see Obama take the reigns because.... by EvilGeek1	Feb 5th, 2008 08:39:23 AM
It would just be a huge phlegm-encrusted spit in the face for all the in-bred racist hicks who unfortunately still exist in the U.S. That and I want to see an end to the Clinton/Bush streak.
What? No retort? by klattimus_darby	Feb 5th, 2008 08:39:40 AM
I am amazed that no one has commented on HillaryLovesMe's post. Well let me be the first. Well well said.
And don't even start with the women's lib bullshit by Sick Fixx	Feb 5th, 2008 08:39:57 AM
which Rockefeller openly admits to having bankrolled so that the other half of America could be taxed as well. Just because there's never been a female President doesn't mean that you vote a woman in for the novelty of it! She's too emotional and Obama is too shady. Ron Paul is the only candidate who can restore this nation. You idiots will realize this after we get an inferior choice like Obama, who could very well be an infiltrator or McCain, who thinks everyone should serve in the war because he was a POW.
EvilGeek by Sick Fixx	Feb 5th, 2008 08:41:08 AM
Muslim is not a race. It's a religion, a lifestyle choice. Therefore, people can't be racist in regards to that. And what's wrong with people not wanting an American to lead America? It's their country too!!!
PICARD/WORF in 2008! by chrth	Feb 5th, 2008 08:42:11 AM

Four Words by Flying Spaghetti Monster	Feb 5th, 2008 08:43:17 AM
Beer Volcanoes Stripper Factories
and Pirates!! by Flying Spaghetti Monster	Feb 5th, 2008 08:44:29 AM
VOTE FSM 2008!
I commented on it. by Lost Jarv	Feb 5th, 2008 08:44:47 AM
And it wasn't "well said". It was a collosal tome that managed to say "screw everbody else! democracy is bad! I need more survival rations in my cabin", but little of actual substance.
of course you can be bigoted to muslims by Lost Jarv	Feb 5th, 2008 08:46:27 AM
just like you can be bigoted to jews. There's no excuse for it. It isn't any better just because it isn't strictly racism.
I must now go by Flying Spaghetti Monster	Feb 5th, 2008 08:47:18 AM
and hover above voting stations...SMITING ALL WHO OPPOSE ME
harry, in many states independents can't vote by DevilCat	Feb 5th, 2008 08:48:16 AM
Many, if not most, states only allow enrolled members of a political party to vote in the primary. This is because the purpose of a primary to allow party members to nominate their own candidate for the general election.
Obama = Cult of Personality by DirkBelig	Feb 5th, 2008 08:48:29 AM
Everyone is supposedly inspired by Obama because he's the shiny new penny and he promises all sorts of free goodies - like a male Oprah - but it's obvious that most of his supporters don't have the slightest clue as to how naive and clueless he is about how the real world works. But, who cares, right? Obama is for "CHANGE" so he's gotta be good, right? Well, Hitler brought change; Mao brought change; Pol Pot brought change; Kim Jong Il brought change; Stalin brought change; Ayatollah Khomeini brought change. Change =/= progress. Change =/= always good. If you don't know what you're voting for, you're worse than those who just stay home. Ignorance is no virtue in times like these.
Hillary already set women's lib back 50 years by Stan Gable	Feb 5th, 2008 08:48:56 AM
when she sat and smiled while her husband was blasting nut juice on intern's dresses. Rather than holding her own husband accountable she just blamed it all on a vast right-wing conspiracy.
Sick Fixx by EvilGeek1	Feb 5th, 2008 08:51:31 AM
I was actually referring to the fact that he's a different color. I didn't say anything about religion. Religion doesn't come into it for me. Provided he's not taking the Koran the wrong way and decapitating children, then I don't see a problem. People are entitled to believe what they wish. Personally I'm nihilist towards all religions. I'm a filthy European so I'm not exposed to half the incidents and stories surrounding this election, but as regards regards Americans leading America? Cmon' guys you need all the good publicity you can get right now. People are afraid to go into your country because of all the shit that's happened...
Godwin's Law in full effect! by Sick Fixx	Feb 5th, 2008 08:51:51 AM
"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."
...and that's a fact! by EvilGeek1	Feb 5th, 2008 08:52:50 AM

Just remember, W was for Change too by chrth	Feb 5th, 2008 08:52:55 AM
Also, I have some doubts as to how much change Obama really wants. Does he want us to vote in a Republican House and Senate to change Congress? Does he want those in Pelosi's district to vote her out for change's sake? Of course not. Is he going to pare down the bloated entrench Washington DC bureaucracy? Uh, no. The only change Obama is interested in is the one that puts him in the White House. For everything else, I'm sure he wants it exactly the same.
Lost Jarv by klattimus_darby	Feb 5th, 2008 08:53:37 AM
Hooray Democracy, 99% sure it's the best political system we're going to get to insure rights and what not. That doesn't mean it doesn't cater to a majority- for better or worse. Unfortunately, we seem to have lost any sense of personal responsibility for our fellow man, and now we need a giant beauracratic baby-sitter to take care of us all. I'm not even saying its the worst idea in the world. Maybe the American people are too far gone to act on behalf of themselves, but it sure as heck isn't the best idea, not even remotely the direction America as a civilization should be heading as a bastion of freedom or independence. Maybe that's too abstract for people. Not pragmatic enough. sigh
When was this rule established by Sick Fixx	Feb 5th, 2008 08:54:07 AM
That we had to care what the rest of the world thinks about us? I agree we should be able to be civil when doing business and make agreements that are fair to all, but as far as if some Frenchman calls Americans 'slobs', why am I obligated to want to change my entire way of life to accomodate France's view of what a life should be? I've never understood why America's 'image' to the rest of the world is supposed to move me so much.
EvilGeek1: We don't need good publicity by chrth	Feb 5th, 2008 08:54:21 AM
We have a weak dollar which makes tourism here quite desirable.
Here's the truth, no matter who win the US is fucked! by captboulder	Feb 5th, 2008 08:54:34 AM
Everytime there an election, it reminds me of those high-school election where the people running promises recess everyday and no more homework! Guess what, that shit will NEVER happened! Once any of those bastards step into office it becomes about paying back their endorsers and friends!
Why doesn't Europe ever say shit about China or North Korea? by Sick Fixx	Feb 5th, 2008 08:57:32 AM
They're ten times worse than America could ever be at its most tyrannical. Forced abortions of most baby girls. HOLDING A FUCKING GUN TO THE HEADS OF NORTH KOREAN CITIZENS IF BRITNEY SPEARS SHOWS ANY SKIN!!! THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED!!! THEY'RE MONSTERS!
Evilgeek by Sick Fixx	Feb 5th, 2008 08:58:48 AM
Oh, religion doesn't matter to you, hmm? Well, I don't want a Muslim in the White House, period. It's skin color I don't care about. I guess anybody who doesn't vote for Obama is a racist then.
REMEMBER, A VOTE FOR ME IS A VOTE FOR by TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION	Feb 5th, 2008 08:58:51 AM
TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION.
ye gods! by Lost Jarv	Feb 5th, 2008 08:58:52 AM
I'm not even a liberal, but am actually fucking appalled at some of the attitudes on here.
apart from TFD. by Lost Jarv	Feb 5th, 2008 08:59:41 AM
I'd vote for him
Well I don't know about the French, but... by EvilGeek1	Feb 5th, 2008 09:02:49 AM
Take a look at Sick Fixx's answer and then ask yourselves why the Dollar is weak and don't just say it's the economic climate. I know full well you don't care what other nations think. That's why you're in this situation: A dirty war with a president who has made more errs in judgement than I've had hot dinners. And please don't peg me as some America hater. I've been to your country and it's great.
Why would anybody vote for Hillary Clinton? by kwisatzhaderach	Feb 5th, 2008 09:03:39 AM
I mean, really? Get somebody new in. This Obama guy seems to know what he's talking about.
I'll Vote for Fat Tuesday ... by jones1899	Feb 5th, 2008 09:03:48 AM
In New Orleans! Not Austin. Harry, you're missing out.
Bill Clinton for Change... by ConquestMelee	Feb 5th, 2008 09:04:03 AM
"Yesterday is yesterday. If we try to recapture it, we will only lose tomorrow." - Bill Clinton www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaZiH- gDVVk
Sick Fixx by EvilGeek1	Feb 5th, 2008 09:05:24 AM
How very open-minded of you.
I'm practicing jumping trains with the other HOBOS by Itto Ogami loses Daigoro	Feb 5th, 2008 09:07:33 AM
I heard this is a required skill during a depression.
Harry sez.. by skimn	Feb 5th, 2008 09:08:14 AM
VOTE OR DIET !! ..just had to..
Stan Gable by kwisatzhaderach	Feb 5th, 2008 09:09:09 AM
A low class soap opera is exactly what the Clintons are. Don't forget, Clinton had the chance to execute Osama (not Obama) and fudged it. And don't forget Kosovo either.
Well most obama supporters are pot smoking hippies. by knowthyself	Feb 5th, 2008 09:09:23 AM
That don't vote anyway. No worries.
EvilGeek1 by klattimus_darby	Feb 5th, 2008 09:09:50 AM
This isn't meant to be a loaded question, I don't have a pre-fabricated retort in mind, but I am interested to know what you think is great about America from an outside perspective. You mind stating where you're from?
There are more choices you know by The Funketeer	Feb 5th, 2008 09:12:08 AM
I realize that most of you like to vote for a winner since it makes you feel like you've accomplished something by checking off a little box and slapping a sticker on your sweater but y'know there are more than just the two parties right? I think most people would find themselves pretty much in tune with the Libertarian party if they took the time to look at the candidates. You constantly vote for the big two who are pretty much the same anyway and then spend four years complaining when they let you down. I'll be excited if Obama wins and actually manages to do something different but lets face it, he's a member of the democratic party and he's going to feel the same pressure for support than any other big candidate would. All of you who are buying into the crap that Hillary and Obama are spouting now, wait until one of them gets nominated and see how quickly their opinions start to change once the entire country is listening. Vote third party if for no other reason than we need change in a way that voting for someone who's last name isn't Clinton or Bush won't bring.
You want open minded? by Sick Fixx	Feb 5th, 2008 09:14:35 AM
Nick Berg's mind was very open when Islamic Fundamentalists sawed it open. People forget so fast that this man died for nothing. He wasn't even a soldier and they hogtied him and butchered him. Daniel Pearl. We have a right to not want a Muslim in the White House even if it means being called 'close minded'. You must have forgotten that the Muslims are now attacking Europe as well. France sure didn't mind defending themselves when the riots happened, did they? No, when the threat comes home, they act just as we have. Same with Britain. And don't even start with the 'Why do you automatically assume I'm from France? You think France is all Europe is?' Because I know how you people turn arguments. Obviously, you have not said what part of Europe you are from. I've noticed this about self proclaimed Europeans on Aint it Cool talkbacks. They always say they're from Europe. They don't get specific. Maybe they're cowards.
I like America as well, by Lost Jarv	Feb 5th, 2008 09:15:02 AM
I've been to lots of different places, and am married to an American.
Clintons are masters of accepting praise for what they don't des by Stan Gable	Feb 5th, 2008 09:16:21 AM
and passing blame for what they do deserve. At the end of the first Bush presidency, the economy had grown for three straight quarters before Clinton won the election. It went on to an economic boom and the internet bubble during his presidency so naturally he takes credit for an economy that was already on the rise before he laid a finger on it. Then, the economy showed three straight quarters of decline before the Bush-Gore election and the dot.com bubble burst, but everyone wants to blame Bush for a poor economy.
IT'S MY FUCKING COUNTRY TOO, DAMMIT! by Sick Fixx	Feb 5th, 2008 09:16:45 AM
Who are you to say I'm close minded because I don't want a Muslim in the White House??? You're not even directly tied in to American politics, and you're trying to dictate that I'm a bigot or a racist because I want a leader I'm comfortable with??? Some of that old country fascism, sounds like.
Political correctness is the new fascism by Sick Fixx	Feb 5th, 2008 09:18:36 AM
'You really shouldn't bash it if you haven't given it a chance.' 'If you don't want Hilary in the White House, you're a sexist.' 'If you don't want a Muslim in the White House, you're a bigot.' I WANT A REAL MAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!! I want Ron Paul to restore this country to a prestige I've never seen in my lifetime.
Sick Fixx by Lost Jarv	Feb 5th, 2008 09:20:13 AM
What about the hundreds of Muslims that have nothing to do with extremists that you are tarring with the same brush. Muslim does not necessarily equal terrorist. And don't you have seperation of church and state? Therefore it shouldn't matter if the president is Christian, Muslim, Buddhist or worships the Flying Spaggheti Monster. The only reason it does matter is because the parties have discovered that being religious is a vote winner. And I'm not European. I'm British. And what you know about the Islamic Problem in this country could be written on the back of a postage stamp. We've lived under a terrorist threat for fucking decades. Ain't nothing new about this lot of murdering bastards.
Congrats... Lite fuse and get away..!!! by Greigy Just Wanted To Say	Feb 5th, 2008 09:21:10 AM
Politics is a game for children. Let them get on with it, the outcome is the same. The rest of the Adults can get on with the real work, rather than playing with shadow puppets.
Stan by Lost Jarv	Feb 5th, 2008 09:21:39 AM
The dot com bubble burst donkey's before the Bush election. Just FYI.
Steady as she goes, Sick Fixx by klattimus_darby	Feb 5th, 2008 09:22:43 AM
All right, Lost Jarv, I'd like to hear your opinion too, What do you like about America, and fo you mind stating where your from. I only ask out of personal interest.
I want a Scientologist as President by Stan Gable	Feb 5th, 2008 09:22:53 AM
Since Hollywood seems to think that Americans are so stupid that their celebrity endorsements will actually matter, I fully expect that one day Hollywood will be it's own new political party and Tom Cruise will be their first official candidate.
klattimus_darby by EvilGeek1	Feb 5th, 2008 09:23:01 AM
Not at all. I'm Irish. Dublin born and bred, so hide the booze. What do I think is great about America... I love your food! I love the Greyhounds! I got to see so much stuff because of those buses. I love your accent(s). I love that there's someone from every walk of life within six feet of you. I love your weather. I definitely love your women! And finally, even though I now despise Hollywood, even I have to admit you guys rule the roost for box office takings around the world. American cinema is a juggernaut!
Here's what Ralph Nader had to say about Obama last week by BrandLoyalist	Feb 5th, 2008 09:23:32 AM
Positive but critical. My opinion of his opinion: big media's fault again; you only had to scan Google's headline listings to observe the media blackout Edwards' explicit rhetoric earned him (let alone Kucinich!). Quoted from his Thursday interview by Democracy Now! (http://democracynow.org): "My assessment of Barack Obama is that he knows what the score is in terms of the male distribution of power. He knows what he has said in the past about the Israeli-Palestinian issue and the need for Palestinian rights and a two-state solution. He knows that this war was a criminal war in Iraq and we’ve got to get out of it in a responsible, expeditious manner. He knows that corporations have too much power over workers and consumers and small taxpayers and elections and the government. "But when you watch him, he stays at a very high plane of generality and abstraction about change, and we’re one nation, and we’re one people. And that may sing with the desire of people to feel like they’re part of a unity, but it doesn’t do much for the productivity of the political dialogue. He does not get specific enough. Therefore, I think his main problem is he’s censoring himself, and that is not sufficiently rationalized by saying that’s just a tactic to win the primaries and get elected."
Ralph Wiggum in 2008! by SpyGuy	Feb 5th, 2008 09:24:08 AM
He's been a good boy and he has a better chance at winning than Ron Paul. What's not to like about Ralphie?
Lost Jarv by Stan Gable	Feb 5th, 2008 09:24:29 AM
Yes, that's what I said, the dot.com bubble burst and the economy showed three straight quarters of decline before the Bush election. Clinton of course didn't take any responsibility for that.
Sick Fixx by DeusExMachina	Feb 5th, 2008 09:24:58 AM
What is all this about a Muslim in the White House? There are no Muslims on the ticket.
CRAIG/FOLEY '08 !!!!!! by BringingSexyBack	Feb 5th, 2008 09:25:03 AM
We need the Free Penis For All bill signed NOW.
Muslim in the White House? Who would that be? by rbrog77	Feb 5th, 2008 09:25:33 AM
Hillary's not. McCain isn't. Romney...no. Huckabee...no way!! Paul? I don't think so. So I guess that would mean you're talking about Obama. In that case....you are a misinformed, I don't care it's what I say or the highway idiot.
Sick Fixx by DocPazuzu	Feb 5th, 2008 09:26:28 AM
Wow, Animalstructure/Thunderballs, that was quick.
No you didn't by Lost Jarv	Feb 5th, 2008 09:27:22 AM
You said that the economy slowed for 3 straight quarters before the election AND the dot com bubble burst. Not the same thing at all. If you meant that the slowdown was due to the dot com mess then fair enough.
OBAMA HAS A BIGGER DICK THAN HILLARY CLINTON by vini77	Feb 5th, 2008 09:28:13 AM
Also he can dance.
More by rbrog77	Feb 5th, 2008 09:28:49 AM
The rest didn't post, so Obabma is not muslim. Part of the responsibilty of being a voter is to be informed. If you don't pay attention to the hundreds of FALSE emails and instead do research on the facts, I believe you'd find Obama to be a member of the Penticostal Church. HE IS NOT A MUSLIM. Believing everything you want to does not make you informed. It actually makes you an idiot. On that level you have suceeded.
Health care is not a "right" by gotilk	Feb 5th, 2008 09:29:29 AM
LOL! Like I've said elsewhere, YOU GONNA PAY eventually. Does it cost us less to eventually care for these people after bad health has deteriorated to horrible health at high cost, or to keep them healthy in the first place? Because as cold as most of us are, we are not ever going to be a country that turns away it's sick poor. My point is that you WILL pay, and the best course of action is to keep those costs as low as you can get them, promote better health choices and regular care rather than just waiting until the whole thing spirals out of control and we're treating a wildfire of health issues instead of killing the brush fire before it gets out of control. I dunno, I guess you can all bury your heads up your asses like you have since the 60s with things like the war on drugs. Let's pretend that a war on ideas and concepts can be won, and keep throwing money down the tubes. Let's pretend that if we all just "pull up our bootstraps", the American dream can be had by all. If all those taxes and waste piss you off, try reading a book called "FREE LUNCH", it'll piss you off, but not in the way you would assume. PEOPLE do not get a free lunch in this country, if they ever did. People who own the companies that own what makes up your lunch and the means of getting to it do. Wake up. All that waste and taxes that you think are being handed to old hippies, homeless people and lazy, stupid folks are being handed to developers, corporations, sports team owners and other people who already HAVE a lunch. (usually on jets, boats and in Restaurants most of us wouldn't be let into to do the dishes) And it's not a Republican/Democrat Liberal/Conservative thing. It transcends that. It's just greed and the spread of the illusion that they all "earned it" "far and squar". Bullshit. You EARN chopping wood. You EARN digging a ditch, or mining coal. You STEAL someone's property to build a new stadium and then bill the local taxpayers for the stadium. And then you want us all to believe you EARNED what you have in life. Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. But at least you have most of us convinced. For a while.
www.aint-it-liberal-propaganda.c om/traitors by uss cygnus	Feb 5th, 2008 09:30:03 AM
THIS site? Ordering people to vote for the most liberal canidate to run for President since George McGovern (and that is a verifiable fact)? Impossible. This is like looking at a crazy 10 year old talking about politics and saying to them "That's nice, dear, but the the adults are talking. Go back to your room and play your playstation."
I'm English, from London by Lost Jarv	Feb 5th, 2008 09:30:22 AM
and have been lucky enough to travel to lots of different bits of America, I like the people I met, the attitude, cheery optimism, a lot of American books, films etc, I find it endlessly fascinating that such a big diverse place is drawn together under one flag, and like Evilgeek I like your women. I married one.
vini77 I disagree by Stan Gable	Feb 5th, 2008 09:31:42 AM
I disagree, Hillary has a 6'3" dick with a puff of white hair on the head.
Obama is a Muslim by skimn	Feb 5th, 2008 09:31:53 AM
I read it on the internet so it MUST BE TRUE!!!!!! Fucking dickwads. And Stan Gable, apparently you've sucked on Rush Limbaugh's cock enough to mimic his twisted form of logic...
A thread INTENDED for political discussion ? ? ? by Nice Marmot	Feb 5th, 2008 09:32:26 AM
. . . I'm surprised everybody's not switching the subject and talking about cool fanboy shit. I'm proud of you AICN!!!
I was tempted, Marmot by Lost Jarv	Feb 5th, 2008 09:33:53 AM
but can't find a way to shoehorn a conversation about low rent horror, Warwick davis, bears, porn, animal porn, remakes, etc in. It's very frustrating.
by redhankyspanky	Feb 5th, 2008 09:33:55 AM
You all should really check this out: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Vo5 CZvD3-QM These people are all traitors. This election is simply theater, as they all have been for God knoes how long. Ron Paul isnt playing this game, hence the media blackout/smear campaign. Be sure and vet it beyond the video, before making snarky comments.
THE DOT COM BUBBLE BURSTING WAS INEVITABLE by BringingSexyBack	Feb 5th, 2008 09:34:26 AM
but not entirely devastating. The long-term outcome was that the most innovative and value-laden companies survived and prospered, and transformed the world into a more efficient Net-based economy. It was investors who did not do their homework who lost out on the bubble, and that happens with the stock market on any given day - just that in this case the drive to invest in any over-hyped dotcom stock was enormous. The bubble put a stop to wild speculation and allowed investors to focus on corporations with solid offerings and not just hype.
Al-Qaeda has endorsed Barack Obama by uss cygnus	Feb 5th, 2008 09:35:37 AM
And supports Hillary Clinton for VP. They know that planes flown into US buildings will increase by a factor of 10 with an Obama presidency, especially since Obama or Clinton would probably give the hijackers families their frequent flier miles posthumously along with a dozen roses and a thank you card that reads "Thanks for killing our innocent civilians. We deserved it. Sorry to be a superpower. Love Barack Hussein & Hillary".
2 out of 5 graduate reading from our Public Schools by Diagnostic	Feb 5th, 2008 09:36:23 AM
Hey, Let the same philosophy and people run health care! Brilliant!
skimn, you are truly a moron by Stan Gable	Feb 5th, 2008 09:37:06 AM
So anyone who exposes Obama or Clinton for the paper-thin candidates they are must suck Rush Limbaugh's dick. Then speaking in your terms you must use your teeth to pick the dingleberries out of James Carville's ass hair and be receiving Dirty Sanchez's from Alan Combes to be in line with their form of logic.
...sorry, heres a cleaner link..... by redhankyspanky	Feb 5th, 2008 09:37:31 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Vo5 CZvD3-QM search "carroll quigley cfr quotes"
Sick Fixx by EvilGeek1	Feb 5th, 2008 09:38:18 AM
Let me tell you something about Ireland. Everyone's a fucking racist here! Everyone! And it's not just skin color we reserve judgment for. Some call it necessary prejudice. I just call it plain old narrow-mindedness. I understand that you feel anger towards the muslim religion but if you tar them all with the same brush, then what's to stop someone like me coming along and calling all Americans war-mongering fat-asses. The door swings both ways. Bear in mind, Americans have killed more than the terrorists have although by now I wouldn't say by much. I hate those crazy fuckers too, but I'm not going to extend my hatred to the bigger picture of the muslims. I felt exactly like you a while back. But if you're genuinely confident in Ron Paul then that's cool.
Harry likes Obama...and HD-DVD. by ccchhhrrriiisssm	Feb 5th, 2008 09:39:35 AM
Credibility destroyed!
HOWEVER, THE HOUSING AND CREDIT BUBBLE BURSTING by BringingSexyBack	Feb 5th, 2008 09:40:15 AM
that's a different matter altogether. People losing a few thou in the dotcom bubble aint nothing compared to being in debt on a mortgage that exceeds the property's value. That's exponentially worse. Some analysts forecast that around mid-08, there will be more bad news from the consumer credit (credit cards and car loans, etc) and corporate credit sectors. Brace yourselves and thank God none of the current candidates can hold a candle to Bush for sheer stupidity.
by 40ozToFreedom	Feb 5th, 2008 09:40:22 AM
Hey folks, Harry here - This isn't a movie post - I'm just reminding all you good folks, like you're not aware - to get out and vote if you're in one of the SUPER TUESDAY voting areas. I'm in Texas - we don't get to vote for quite some time, but if the commentators are right - it looks like the Democratic Nominee won't be decided up till possibly then. Personally - I'm an OBAMA fan. And I have been since his speech here in Austin, back last February at Auditorium Shores. However, I saw it in Blu-Ray, which most people haven't, so I'm not expecting anyone else to fully understand. You don't know anything about Obama until you've seen him in 1080p.
This Movie Sounds Stupid! by georges garvaren	Feb 5th, 2008 09:40:26 AM
A film about voting? Political writing has never been my thing so perhapses this Obama character can turn out to be a monster we all want to see but DON'T until the last five minutes or so. Hilary and Bill and hug/kiss/tell each other how they really feel while all hell comes crashing down. Wait, wasn't that the 2000 election turnout? You USA'ers; such good sports.
.....asleep at the wheel... by redhankyspanky	Feb 5th, 2008 09:40:47 AM
"Vote for Hillary and enjoy having your wages garnished if you don't elect to participate in her socialist health care plans." Obamas plan is the same. America is asleep at the wheel, and wont even see it coming. These people are all CFR.
CYGNUS - ACTUALLY AL QAEDA IS INDEBTED TO BUSH by BringingSexyBack	Feb 5th, 2008 09:42:49 AM
for deliberately clearing a path for them on 9/11. Go play with your vintage Spock dolls.
Well we got something in common after all by klattimus_darby	Feb 5th, 2008 09:43:05 AM
I like our women too. Seems like you guys can appreciate our people before our politics. I like that. Me too. And who doesn't like a good burger with freedom fries.
Wow, lots of responses.... by Billy Batts	Feb 5th, 2008 09:44:15 AM
and it's remained pretty civil in here so far.
BringingSexyBack by Stan Gable	Feb 5th, 2008 09:45:10 AM
Maybe now you can try to explain how it Bush's fault if someone has a mortgage they can't afford. People pay for homes what the market dictates. Lenders do not lend money to borrowers who don't have the credit or the income to afford it. Credit card debt is the fault of the individual who would rather buy now and hope to pay later. Your argument does not make any sense.
redhankyspanky by Sick Fixx	Feb 5th, 2008 09:47:02 AM
Good point. But don't even bother talking about the CFR with anyone outside of your own social circle, because we can't even convince them that it's a real organization, even though John Edwards has name dropped it in public media, and he's not the only one. I think the majority of people discount what they call 'conspiracy theories' out of fear that anything that insidious could actually be going on. It's a child's trick to shut your eyes from bad stuff and it'll go away, or maybe it was never there to begin with. It's only human nature, after all.
Catch H Clinton on Letterman last night? by Mister Man	Feb 5th, 2008 09:47:35 AM
He's obviously a supporter, and has been for a while. The "quotes" were a total set-up, as is always the case in the talk show setting. Not even remotely spontaneous - and the "I love Obama" BS was more than a bit gratuitous. The "staging" of it was just so blatant - the "wearing the pants-suit in the White House" was a groaner.
Stan by Lost Jarv	Feb 5th, 2008 09:48:14 AM
"Lenders do not lend money to borrowers who don't have the credit or the income to afford it." Erm, they did. Hence the fuck up.
Anyone that compares Obama to Hitler,Pol pot or Starlin by Stalkeye	Feb 5th, 2008 09:50:21 AM
Is a fucking moron. Nuff Said. If Obama loses the primary, then my vote goes to Hil by default anyone but another goddamn Republican. But thanks to the Bush/Cheney regime, it should be a easy victory for the Dems. And I have not heard much of Mccain's stances. Sick FiXX whatever it is you are smoking, one of my coworkers would like to buy some of that shit from ya. Muslim indeed. XD
Ron Paul is the only candidate... by tile_mcgillus	Feb 5th, 2008 09:51:17 AM
speaking of drastically shrinking our government size. Giving you back your money. Bringing home all of our troops from our over 730 military bases in 130 countries. He wants to no longer be an empire, but rather a country that shares, trades, prospers, and communicates with all nations. He is the only candidate truly versed in the economy. He actually has a plan to fix the economy not just hold it over until a huge depression comes. He is the only candidate that has a 100% vote in line with the constitution. Look it up. He is the only republican candidate that is entirely funded by individuals not corporations. He has said he doesn't want to run your life, and wouldn't pretend to know how to. He is the only candidate that wants to restriction government involvement in your life not increase it. He was right about Iraq, right about Iran, right about the economy. So that is my pitch for Ron Paul. Sounded pretty good didn't it. It's all true. He will not win because the media has ignored, ridiculed and demeaned him the entire time. Thanks media. Thanks.
David Lynch for president! by EvilGeek1	Feb 5th, 2008 09:53:14 AM
With Cronenberg as Secretary for Defense and Nick Cave as Secretary for The Broken-Hearted! That would be fun!
STAN GABLE by BringingSexyBack	Feb 5th, 2008 09:53:23 AM
Are you completely ignorant about the subprime mortgage mess? I spend a lot of time on AICN but, um, reading the news might be worthwhile too. "Lenders do not lend money to borrowers who don't have the credit or the income to afford it." ... that's PRECISELY the cause of the multi-billion dollar losses every major bank has suffered. 95% to 100% mortgages to anyone with a pulse. And if the consumer credit sector goes down, the whole economy does. No spending, no revenues, no jobs. Which will further drive property values down. What does this have to do with Bush? Are you daft? He deliberately drove this train to this station with his economic policies while the country was distracted by bloodshed in the Middle East. I mean, hell, he was the worst borrower of all. He borrowed from China and every other country to pay for the war, and who's footing the bill? The Middle Class' future.
(In my Bill "Science Guy" Nye voice) Consider the following: by ccchhhrrriiisssm	Feb 5th, 2008 09:56:46 AM
1. Obama is inexperienced and is running a campaign about "change." 2. "Change" is not always a good thing. In fact, things could get WORSE if they were to "change." 3. The media is having an exposure and coverage orgy with Barack Hussein Obama. Historically, the media does NOT represent most Americans. 4. Hillary and Bill are the first to point at Barack Hussein Obama's lack of experience and questionable ethical background. 5. Hillary says to not vote for Obama. 6. Obama says to not vote for Hillary. Conclusion: Both Obama and Hillary are right about who NOT to vote for. Both Obama and Hillary are WRONG for this nation at this time in history! John McCain is the only candidate with military experience and long-term government leadership experience. He is the only "normal" American running (normal being that he seems to genuinely identify with most Americans; and he actually watched the Superbowl for the same reason that we watched -- a good game and cool commercials). While I don't agree with John McCain in every area, he is the best candidate for the job of President of the United States. He is the only candidate that gives Osama bin Laden (and every other funadmentalist religious terrorist) nightmares. I like McCain that he was willing to suffer and endure for 5 and a half years as a tortured Prisoner of War -- while raunchy ULTRA-LIBERAL American hippies back home were calling him a "baby killer." Why did he do this? He loved his country. I don't think that Barack Hussein Obama or Hillary Rodman Clinton really love their country like that. I think that Hillary and Obama love being loved and are in love with a LIBERAL IDEA about America. I don't want America to be as FAR-LEFT LIBERAL as Hillary, Obama or Nancy Pelosi are aiming. They only "tolerate" those who support and agree with them. ABC: A-nybody B-ut C-linton! NWO: N-o W-ay, O-bama! This race has nothing to do with color. It has everything to do with ideology! I would love to have a woman or an African American for President. Clinton is not that woman. Obama is not that African American. McCain/Condi in 2008!!!
SUICIDE WATCH FOR SICKFIXX by BringingSexyBack	Feb 5th, 2008 09:56:50 AM
Starts now ... GO HILLARY!
Its a very clear choice on the democratic side by mukhtabi	Feb 5th, 2008 09:58:45 AM
If you vote for Hilary you will get what you voted for, namely a woman who really can't get things done because she WILL be undermined by her spouse. If you vote for Obama, you will get a big ideas man who will make landmark legislation compromises because he has the same spirit JFK had. Sure he hasn't said anything truly meaningful in the campaign but guess what people, POLICY doesn't win votes! Getting people off their asses to vote, THAT wins votes. So my wife and I are both going to vote for Obama in five minutes. Laters!
I'll vote for Hillary on Fat Tuesday... by Evil Lincoln	Feb 5th, 2008 09:58:51 AM
...if she shows me her tits! LOL!!!
IF MCCAIN SWITCHED TO AN INDEPENDENT by BringingSexyBack	Feb 5th, 2008 09:59:14 AM
He may have a shot. His association with the party of nutbags is just a hindrance to his ambitions.
MCCain's Campaign Pres: "The Alamo = heroes who died for nothing by ArcadianDS	Feb 5th, 2008 10:01:03 AM
Yesterday on Missouri's am radio show, "The Vincent David Jericho Show", the Campaign President for John McCain rationalized McCain's having abandoned his own views to cooperate with Democrats as such: "If you stand your ground on something and die, what have you accomplished? nothing." Jericho: "What about The Alamo. They stood their ground against an invading army and payed with their lives. Was that for nothing?" "Sure. They became martyrs for a lost cause and it was such a sad waste." Go ahead and vote McCain but just remember that he thinks that the brave men who stood their ground at The Alamo against the armies of Mexico wasted their lives and should have tried to find a common ground of cooperation with the invading enemies. This is the guy you want defending our country from attack? What idiocy.
DEMOCRATS are HIPPIES! by ccchhhrrriiisssm	Feb 5th, 2008 10:01:48 AM
Thanks for pointing out that all of us "poor Republicans" are "nutbags," dickhead. Get a life before you start spewing so much ignorant "talking point" myths from the DemocRATic Party!
I'D VOTE FOR ROMNEY IF HE SHOWS ME HIS TITS TOO by BringingSexyBack	Feb 5th, 2008 10:02:30 AM
I would.
OK, here's how it is, and if you actually read this........ by FlickaPoo	Feb 5th, 2008 10:03:11 AM
...you will have to agree with me. America has always needed both Left and Right, Democrats and Republicans (yes, I know that they haven't always been called by those names, but the principles still existed). It's a Yin and Yang sort of thing. In the early twentieth century things were very "Republican"...individualism, big business etc... Well, that was great for a while, but then we ended up with insanely rich robber barons putting eight year olds to work in coal mines, old people eating each other to stay alive, the great depression etc... So, then the "democrats" or "left" took over for a while...that got us social security (so your fat ass won't starve to death when you are old), medicare, child labor laws, minimum wage (so your asshole boss at Seven-Eleven has to pay you at least six bucks an hour) etc... And that was good stuff. But none of us really wanted to live in a completely Socialist country, so eventually things tipped back the other way. You see? The other side doesn't suck, sometimes the stew needs a little salt, and sometimes it needs a little pepper. Now at the moment I would argue that we have been salted up the ass for the last eight years and we need a big, big dose of pepper....we are quickly heading back to the robber baron-eight year olds in the coal mines days. Time for the "Left" to think about the little guy for a while...maybe get some universal health care for real (because pretty soon only Mitt Romney and the Bush family are going to be able to afford to get their appendix out if they need to). In conclusion, neither the Ying nor the Yang of American politics is BAD. At the moment though we have just been Yanged up the butt for eight years and we desperately need a little soothing Ying lotion for a while. If you think about it you will know it's true...I will even let you quote me at parties...people will think you're a genius.
"I watch the Superbowl like everybody else... by Sick Fixx	Feb 5th, 2008 10:03:37 AM
Because it's a damn good game with cool commercials. I'm John McCain, and I approve this message." McCain 2008, :rolleye:
I've chosen Obama, and here's why... by Chishu_Ryu	Feb 5th, 2008 10:04:00 AM
(in strong South African accent)...because he's black...
The problem with Ron Paul by chrth	Feb 5th, 2008 10:05:17 AM
ISOLATIONISM NEVER WORKS PEOPLE. I swear to f'ing God it amazes how limited the mindset of some people are. There's a reason we still mock Neville Chamberlain. Paul wants to get us out of NAFTA. Protectionism also never works. Domestically, I'm quite fond of a Libertarian mindset. But for some reason the notion got planted that to be a Libertarian means to support a Fortress America. It's ridiculous, it's unworkable, and it's dangerous.
I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT YOU CHRIISM by BringingSexyBack	Feb 5th, 2008 10:05:38 AM
I was talking about the power-drunk politicos that were raging in the party at the height of Bush's power and are still there. I wasn't talking about true Conservatives whose own policies run counter to the party's now- radical mainsteamers. But thank you for taking the time to read my post.
FlickaPoo: Sorry, I read it, but I totally disagree with you by chrth	Feb 5th, 2008 10:07:26 AM
I can easily afford to have my appendix out because I have a JOB. And I'll continue having a JOB.
Condi for VP? by Stalkeye	Feb 5th, 2008 10:07:40 AM
That useless bitch can't even serve me drinks at my local Bar. She's just another puppet for the Bush/Cheney regime. Her observation of WMAs in Iraq were proven inconclusive not to mention while the Katrina disaster was happening, she was out shopping for shoes in NYC and being jeered by the New Yorkers. Macain, I dunno but Condi..Aw hell naw!
on the cost of medicine by Lost Jarv	Feb 5th, 2008 10:10:09 AM
Ask Kloipy when he next shows up. He had a horrible story about it.
Shouldn't we have sidetracked this talkback by chrth	Feb 5th, 2008 10:11:13 AM
to discuss movies by now? Hannah Montana, #1 movie in America ... not a single review on this site. This site is so out of touch.
CONDI FOR VP? by BringingSexyBack	Feb 5th, 2008 10:11:38 AM
Not even for McDonald's assistant manager for the drive in window.
McCain is batshit crazy by tile_mcgillus	Feb 5th, 2008 10:13:02 AM
100 years in Iraq... He sang "Bomb Iran" He has admitted he knows not much about the economy but that his friends Jack Kemp etc etc do...essentially saying he will pass the task onto other people. He now supports the Bush taxes cuts, after opposing them in the past...thus flip flopping. He wants illegal immigrants to pay a $3,000 fine and then be able to stay in America. McCain-Feingold restricted the first amendment. He will stand no chance against Obama...that is why the republicans will go for Romney. Pretty Boy versus great public speaker... WHOEVER WINS...WE LOSE.
see chrth, that pisses me off no end by Lost Jarv	Feb 5th, 2008 10:13:08 AM
the world's going down the shitter. Imagine Harry not posting a review of a film with pubescent girls in it. It's the apocalypse.
Hillary or Obama... by Kid Z	Feb 5th, 2008 10:13:50 AM
...whoever... just make sure your campaign ads for the general election prominantly feature that footage of Nutcase McCain humping Bushie's leg!
Why not vote Obama? by chewyou812	Feb 5th, 2008 10:14:05 AM
I love the fact that the anti-Obama talkbackers are acusing the pro-Obama's of not knowing their candidate and yet the only arguments I see from you against him are things like "HE'S MUSLIM!" (even though he's not). The fact is that the two Dems are actually very very close on their policies with slight diffences in their health care plans (Hilary's trying to avoid admitting that she'll garnish your wages) and Iraq (Obama's willing to say that barring a major new development he'll have the troops out of Iraq and focusing on Al Queda within 16 months of taking office). I'm off to work, but I challenge the rest of you to use actual facts and state your case legitimately. Otherwise, go back to bitching about movies and porno.
Optimist For Obama by RicCage	Feb 5th, 2008 10:14:40 AM
Read this blog I found. Explains it all http://eliastoufexis.blogspot. com/2008/02/optimist-for-obama _02.html Go vote for OBAMA
I wanna play Super Smash Bros Brawl with candidates! by Baron Karza	Feb 5th, 2008 10:15:34 AM
Because thats as deep as I am.
HILLARY HAS CHOSEN TO GARNISH WAGES AND HERES WHY by ArcadianDS	Feb 5th, 2008 10:15:51 AM
Her national healthcare plan includes the federally mandated REQUIREMENT that you pay for health insurance, and if you do not, they will garnish your wages and force that health care upon you Unless you decide to not have a job - then she gives it to you for free.
NO MORMON WILL EVER WIN THE WHITE HOUSE by BringingSexyBack	Feb 5th, 2008 10:15:56 AM
Romney is Daniel Plainview with the sheen of Ronald Reagan. He seeks office for power and riches. We don't need that no more. America wake the fuck up.
chrth by tile_mcgillus	Feb 5th, 2008 10:17:38 AM
Ron Paul is not an isolationi

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