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by johnhatesyou
Jan 26th, 2008
10:06:11 AM
Come on, talkbackers---don't let me down!
Much better so far!
by Steve T
Jan 26th, 2008
10:14:34 AM
Good job lads, got this up sometime after episode 2 has aired! But a much better series so far. Season one was mostly arse but I have enjoyed 2 out 2 this time round. The pan-sexuality is still there but not so awkwardly crowbarred in, this is the way it should be done!
Much improved
by mascan42
Jan 26th, 2008
10:16:06 AM
Having seen the first 2 episodes of the new season, the first thing I noticed is that they've thankfully lost a lot of the angst of the first season. The show has finally found its sense of humor. And they've started at least one, maybe two, story arcs for the season.
dammit
by punto
Jan 26th, 2008
10:16:32 AM
I stopped watching season 1 halfway through because it was so horribly bad, and now I have to start watching again because Martha is showing up.. Do I have to sit through the whole first season, or just the last few episode for the "pivotal ending"?
I thought the star wars reference was
by gotilk
Jan 26th, 2008
10:17:03 AM
.. well played. Made me laugh. It's all about the delivery and he delivers well. He delivers something else to Captain Jack at some point as well. But seriously a great first episode. Much better than last series, but retained just enough of the elements that made series 1 enjoyable.
Steve T puts it well.
by gotilk
Jan 26th, 2008
10:20:06 AM
The "crowbarred in" thing is gone and I'm sure in it's place will be a ton of people terribly uncomfortable about how terribly comfortable all the characters (and writers) seem to be this time around with the pansexuality aspects of the show. It is more PRESENT, but less novel. Much more realistic and less about the shock of the moments.
Too much gay in torchwood
by Cory849
Jan 26th, 2008
10:21:45 AM
I liked torchwood first season, but I thought there was indeed too much bisexuality in it. I had LESS than no problem with a bisexual Jack Harkness. My problem is that everyone on the team is bisexual, which stretches credulity. It's like the "Bus jumps the open bridge" from SPEED and physics. Yes, I can accept the fantastic but dont insult my intelligence... Anyway, the solution for this is simple. Have Captain Jack provide the insight that bisexuality was something he looked for, or was a bias in, his torchwood recruitment. But seriously, having everyone including the REAL Captain Jack Harkness in WW2 turn out to be bi was just silly. And there's nothing remotely homophobic about pointing that out. What is DOUBLY silly is shielding Russell T. Davies from such criticism by accusing we critics of prejudice.

by Lloytron
Jan 26th, 2008
10:34:49 AM
The first episode was a bit hit and miss but the second episode was really good, nice story, great effects and plenty of drama.
not reality tv.
by palewook
Jan 26th, 2008
10:36:39 AM
most Americans won't get it. but if you don't like reality retreads.

give torchwood a chance. its not all bad. and can be sorta fun.

When James Marsters gets added to a show...
by smackfu
Jan 26th, 2008
10:38:37 AM
They should just screw the subtleties and actually just call him Spike. Give him the bleached blond hair, leather trenchcoat, the exact same character, who just happened to wonder into this other shows universe.
load of old crap
by JacktheRaper
Jan 26th, 2008
10:54:16 AM
boring,tired old crap
Still a giant steaming pile of...
by Merlox
Jan 26th, 2008
11:04:44 AM
crap. This show suffers from some of the worst written characters I think I've seen in a long time on a television show. Why Harkness should feel at all bad for leaving those fucking idiots he works with blows my mind. Have the writers forgotten that their selfishness and piss poor "motivations" last season almost caused the end of the world? There is absolutely no character you can sympathize with. And if the point is that they're all bastards then fine. I get that. But they NEVER get their just desserts. The punch Jack in the face and are all, "so yeah I messed up fuck you, you never tell us about yourself." Siiiigh. Fuck em. And Fuck the writers strike for not being over so we'd have better tv on. And Fuck me for still watching this tripe.
I'm sure somebody will accuse me of homophobia
by montimer
Jan 26th, 2008
11:07:05 AM
But I just don't care. This whole series is a bit of a disappointment. The first few episodes of the first series were quite good, but it's become progressively dafter and dafter, with apparently no hope for a recovery. The stories are ropey, the episode titles are stolen from Mr Davis' DVD collection and the whole gay-kissing thing is getting ridiculous. I rather enjoyed queer as folk, and I'm in no way homophobic, but the fact that in every episode somebody feels the need to lock tongues with another memeber of their sex, despite NEVER showing any inclination towards homosexuality before is just ridiculous. I don't know of any other sci-fi series which is so half arsed, pointless and badly written, and I watched an episode of Farscape. Sorry for the rant, but yet again Russel T Davis has wasted another opportunity.
If you think that Torchwood is badly written..
by Aloy
Jan 26th, 2008
11:19:39 AM
Try watching Primeval. I'm only about half way through Torchwood S 1. (Weevil fight club) but the show has way more depth than Primeval which is a fun concept with lousy writing and cartoonish characters.
The gay thing doesn't bother me.
by V'Shael
Jan 26th, 2008
11:23:05 AM
I have no problem with Jack being "pansexual" or whatever.

But bad writing, bad scripting, and bad plotting bother me.

The idea that gay+sex+nudity = adult drama bothers me.

Russel Fucking Davies bothers me. HE should grow the fuck up, and stop writing such childish drivel and trying to excuse it by saying it doesn't have to make sense, as it's only for kids.

Do all time agents...
by CeeBeeUK
Jan 26th, 2008
11:26:28 AM
have the rank of Captain and the intials JH?
primeval kicks torchwood's ass
by jccalhoun
Jan 26th, 2008
11:34:26 AM
Series 1 of Torchwood was horrible. Primeval has problems but at least it is entertaining and unlike Torchwood doesn't spend half of every episode moping about how serious and important their job is.

Episode 1 of series 2 was a big improvement. I haven't gotten around to seeing episode 2 yet.

Of all the Doctor Who shows Sarah Jane Adventures is by far the best. If Torchwood could be half as entertaining as that, I'll be happy.
Tosswood
by kwisatzhaderach
Jan 26th, 2008
12:06:23 PM
Drivel, and I say that as a lifelong Doctor Who fan. A terrible waste.
Torched Wood
by Manos
Jan 26th, 2008
12:26:00 PM
All I can say is, if the fate of the world depends on this band of self centered, self important bunglers, then it's time to bend over and kiss our asses goodbye.
I haven't even gotten around to seeing the first season
by Yeti
Jan 26th, 2008
12:27:53 PM
Anyone know if it's available on DVD in Canada yet? The CBC has been showing eps but I'd prefer to watch it at my own pace/leisure.
Torchwood season 2
by no-no
Jan 26th, 2008
12:52:48 PM
a large improvement so far. Give Ianto more airtime.
TORCHWOOD = GOTWOOD
by spud mcspud
Jan 26th, 2008
12:59:16 PM
In the first episode, Captain Jack and Ianto enter an office, with Jack telling Ianto that, to him, offices are exotic places because he never gets to spend time in them. Offices are sexy.

Captain Jack told Ianto that offices make him horny.

That level of absolute ridiculousness in the writing is what kills TORCHWOOD dead. Yes, it's all very pretty, saturated colours and that HD witchcraft and loads of swishy camera and dramatic music...

But it makes no fucking sense!

How many people did Jack crack onto in that episode? He's jealous because uber-slut Gwen has decided, in the time Jack went to the end of the world and got killed again by Sam Tyler, that she's reformed and will no longer fuck everything that moves. So Jack's upset, 'cos that includes him. Ianto's giving Jack the cold shoulder for walking away when Tennant's ride came calling at the end of season 1. So Jack's upset, 'cos Ianto won't fuck him. Then Jack gets upset 'cos Captain Spike may reveal too much about his past.

WHO GIVES A FUCK?!?!?

TORCHWOOD is an above top secret agency charged with saving the Earth regularly from alien invasion. They supposedly don't even answer to the government, and they are made up of the very best in their chosen fields. So why are they only fucking interested in sex every week? Any hole's a goal! It's all "waaah Ianto won't fuck me and Gwen's only going to fuck Rhys from now on and frankly no-one will fuck Owen because he looks like the Crazy Frog and that frigid bitch Tosh won't fuck me waaaaaah I AM CAPTAIN JACK THE WALKING COCK MAN AND WHY WON'T MY TEAM FUCK ME?!?!? WAAAHAAAAAAAAAHHH!"

If you want to know how an agency that saves the world from alien intervention REALLY should be, dust off your X-FILES boxsets and watch them again. In the X-FILES, if a UFO crashes and you're unlucky enough to be at the crash site, you'll get your ass riddled with lead and handed to you by the Blue Beret Retreival Team, who kill first and then don't ask any questions. If you turn up at the scene of a UFO crash in TORCHWOOD... all you have to worry about is which TW member gets to you first. Especially if it's Captain Jack. Especially if there's a dark corner.

It's all so sad, because SLEEPER - the 2nd episode of season 2 - I actually almost enjoyed. Till I noticed the resemblances of certain shots to certain movies. Alien dragging himself along the ground by one arm? THE TERMINATOR. Same alien laughing as he activates a bomb attached to him? PREDATOR. Blades that slide out of forearms? BARAKA from MORTAL KOMBAT. The entire concept of how a person who thinks they're human can possibly NOT know that they are an enemy sleeper agent undercover, waiting to be activated to destroy humanity? Well, hell, that's all three seasons of the new BATTLESTAR GALACTICA. Which did it waaaaaaaaaaay better.

Why was SLEEPER one of the best TW eps so far? Less snogging, fucking, and/or embarrassing teen sex life angst from a bunch of 20/30somethings who really should know better. Scientists are NOT, on the whole, obsessed with sex. The kind of people who would be dealing with alien contact and such are NOT the kind of people you see on Channel 4's SKINS. TORCHWOOD has no fucking clue what it's meant to be, and THAT'S what's saddest: all this money, talent and effort thrown at it, and it's still the British equivalent of a gay BUCK ROGERS crossed with SCOOBY DOO. Fucking wasted.

I agree with some of you guys above: if you want to see the best of DOCTOR WHO's universe, watch the HUMAN NATURE / FAMILY OF BLOOD and BLINK episodes, then move along and watch THE SARAH JANE ADVENTURES. Well plotted, well written, excellently acted and with decent production values - and no-one's obsessed with sticking bits of themselves into anyone else / any aliens / anything with a hole or protuberance. It's almost refreshing to see an RTD production that isn't totally obsessed with fucking, and it works.

TORCHWOOD could still work this season. But I doubt it.

PRIMEVAL
by spud mcspud
Jan 26th, 2008
01:01:07 PM
Admittedly, it's a bit shit. But it doesn't claim to be edgy, dark, adult sci-fi drama. It is what it is - a kid's dinosaur show. The only cast member taking it seriously is Dougie "I'm an ac-TOR!" Henshall, and there's enough eye candy in it for both sexes. It's stupid, it's hokey, but it IS fun.
The second episode....
by Gabba-UK
Jan 26th, 2008
01:06:53 PM
isn't as much fun as the first because the subject matter was a bit darker but it was just as good as the first. The whole sexuality thing is still there but, if you forgive the expression, not shoved down your throat as much. Marsters coming on board and from what i hear new writers makes me more confident about what's to come. And the above talker was right, whatever its faults, Torchwood is Shakespere compared to the awfulness that is Primevil. Seriously bit torrent it to see just how shite British Sci-Fi can get!!!
Bur Primeval could be so much better
by Aloy
Jan 26th, 2008
02:02:12 PM
Admittedly the little kid in me goes crazy for any dinosaur/sci fi but it wouldn't take much to make it a really cool show. I can put up with the goofy characters but when they roam a shopping mall leaving unconscious team mates lying around or walk unarmed when they know that a raptor is just around the corner....It's just shitty writing, and I thought that the reason the Brits only crank out 7 or 8 shows was to give a better level of quality. Torchwood (and I'm only half way into season 1) has a bit more depth and doesn't leave me pissed off at the end of every episode.
"Britishers" ???
by Ray Gamma
Jan 26th, 2008
02:28:34 PM
Fuck those Britisher fags with their gay faggy fag tv shows for fags. What we need is a show about towelheads getting shot and buttfucked by marines. Erm, did I say buttfucked? Ah... erm....
Love & Monsters: The Series
by INWOsuxRED
Jan 26th, 2008
03:17:25 PM
I just got finished not watching the first season of Torchwood, and I'm a die-hard fan of Old and New Who. The 2nd one is already here, AND already on U.S. TV? Why are we getting near first run Torchwood and still waiting for the new Christmas special? BBC could make alot more money if Americans got their Who from TV rather than from Torrent.
Primeval is great fun...
by KazamaSmokers
Jan 26th, 2008
03:26:59 PM
I especially love the convoluted plot element they devised to have Hannah Spearitt constantly running around her place in minimal underwear.
It's excellent so far IMO
by performingmonkey
Jan 26th, 2008
03:58:08 PM
The first episode was fantastic. There didn't need to be a good plot, it just needed to be a fun, action-packed setup episode with a great guest star, which it was! The Torchwood team have a much better dynamic this time around. They don't all hate each other like they did in season 1! Now it's more believable that they'd actually carry on working together. There are some GREAT episodes coming up in the season. One of them is meant to be the darkest thing ever.
Marsters isn't playing British....
by Darth_Nader
Jan 26th, 2008
04:25:24 PM
He's playing gay. I can see where there might be confusion....
the whole bi thing
by HudLives
Jan 26th, 2008
06:36:58 PM
just adds to Capt. Jack's craziness. He's a gonzo Han Solo.
Pun
by ElPaw
Jan 26th, 2008
07:02:46 PM
Sorry for asking the obvious here, but where exactly is the pun in "inject"?
RTD puttig in Gay content
by Steve T
Jan 26th, 2008
07:13:19 PM
I don't mind there being homosexuality in Who, i just wish he didn't have to make the Doctor snog everything that moves! RTD is a big who fan, but he has a big streak of gay stereotype in him that has chickflicked the show a bit.
epsode 2 was watchable
by jccalhoun
Jan 26th, 2008
07:25:43 PM
I just got around to watching episode 2 of series 2 and it was much better than every episode of last season. Sure it was all taken from other series or films but at least they didn't spend the whole damn time moping about how hard their jobs are. They actually seemed to like their jobs at some points even if they have hard choices to make.
BULLSHIT!!
by nonsensical
Jan 26th, 2008
08:35:06 PM
So, if an American sends in a review of this show it doesn't matter what we say? Britons are a better judge of the series? Bullshit.

So, This past week Torchwood Series 2 Episode 2 entitled "Sleeper" aired on the BBC and was pretty damn good.

SPOILERS AHEAD: The episode is used as an allegory for terrorism as the team discovers a sleeper unit living in Cardiff with plans to invade earth. This discovery comes when a woman and her boyfriend are robbed and in the course of the burglary the robbers are killed and critically injured. The woman comes out without a scratch and can't remember what happened. The team investigates and discovers her secret. During interrogation of the woman we see how far Jack is willing to go and how different he is from some of the other members of their team, in particular Gwen. While in their attempt to break through the false memories of the woman they inadvertently activate the cell but leave her "off the network". The woman gains control of the technology that is implanted in her and helps the team stop the cell from completing their mission. Which by the way is to nuke the crap out of the UK using their own nuclear warheads. In the end the woman can't live with the fact that she's not entirely human except for her memories and takes Gwen hostage forcing the team to kill her while she's still "human". The episode is good, better than all the reality garbage on TV today, but not as good as that first episode. I like learning about Capt. Jack and adding James Marsters as Capt. John is a fantastic way to explore that. Especially since he'll be back later in the season. That's right... James Marsters will be back on Torchwood later this season.

Of course even if I had submitted this review to AICN apparently I'm American so what I think of this show doesn't really mean as much as it would if I were a Briton.

...and for that I say BULLSHIT!!

Has anyone seen THE DEATHS OF IAN STONE?
by IAmMrMonkey!
Jan 26th, 2008
08:55:33 PM
I ask this because "Sleeper", the second episode ripped both the effects and alien killing method straight from that movie! I think "Ian Stone" was a Brit movie so it wouldn't surprise me if it was the same prosthetics as used in the movie but I was shocked how obvious it was.

By the way, I'm enjoying Torchwood a little bit more this time around. Not enough to actually watch it when it's on but enough to torrent it when I remember.

Nonsensical
by IAmMrMonkey!
Jan 26th, 2008
08:56:27 PM
Shut it Yank.

:)

Well, I like it.
by ZeroCorpse
Jan 26th, 2008
10:26:27 PM
The pansexuality is fine with me-- Desired, even. I mean, every other scifi show has the characters of opposite gender all snogging one another, so why shouldn't there be one that allows for a more open-minded view of the future? And that's where Jack's from- The far-off future where EVERYBODY is pansexual.

Hey, I know the people who don't like seeing men kissing each other will flee from this (but strangely, they never complain about Gwen kissing the girl in the first episode. I guess to homophobes, guy on guy is verboten, but girl on girl is still sexy.) -- but I like the show. I'm glad to see a show that treats the characters' sexuality like any other show, but without the heterosexual boundaries. Seriously-- the level of romance and sexuality is THE SAME as any other show. It's just that they don't stick to their own gender. If that's what bugs you about Torchwood (or you consider it "bad writing" to have a team of bisexuals... believe me, bisexuals tend to gravitate toward each other) then move on. Find something else. Stop complaining because a "gay" show is on television and go watch something in which manly men down pints of lager and slap each other on the back whilst making lurid gestures at women. Whatever it takes to maintain your oh-so-fragile masculine veneer.

For the rest of us, Torchwood stands as a show that's better than approximately 97% of the CRAP that's on American television. I'm a yank, but I'd sooner watch Torchwood and Doctor Who than bother with lame, boring shit like 30 Rock or the American version of The Office, which substitutes 'awkward' for "funny'.

It's alright guys. There's always great mediocre, cliche, purely hetero American scifi like Bionic Woman, Stargate Atlantis, and whatever drek SciFi channel happens to whip up this week. You'll be OK.

I just hope Starbuck doesn't realize she's a dyke... You might lose it if she goes 100% butch.

The Overt Omnisexuality
by rsswope
Jan 26th, 2008
10:27:48 PM
I don't have any problem with the gay thing, but it is not really a gay thing at all. I have to say the way they portray the general sexuality of the characters seem to not exhibit sexual tension but rather sexual psychosis. One of the primary ways they view each other is as a sexual mate that they can shag one day and forget about it the next. They are all omnisexual sex addicts who need therapy. Which wouldn't be bad if they showed the consequences of treating everyone close to you as a fresh piece of meat. But they just hop back and forth with each other without showing the emotional consequences that would make the whole repartee believable. But I have to admit the whole Spike poodle line was pretty funny.
The Doctor hasn't snogged everything...
by ZeroCorpse
Jan 26th, 2008
10:34:20 PM
Name five people he's kissed, willingly. You can't count Jack because that one was kind of snuck up on the Doctor-- He didn't initiate it and didn't return it, from my view. You can't count Rose, because that was to suck the TARDIS energy out of her before she died. So who, then?
A quick review of TORCHWOOD Series 2, Episode 1
by SpyGuy
Jan 27th, 2008
12:48:36 AM
John Barrowman is a much better actor as flamboyant, cheeky Captain Jack than broody and secretive Captain Jack.

Gwen is still a fucking useless idiot now engaged to her fucking useless idiot boyfriend, Rhys.

Owen and Tosh attempt to start romantic chemistry and fail miserably.

James Marsters' character Captain John Hart is already more interesting to watch than all of the Torchwood team combined.

Still no explanation of why Captain Jack disappeared as the TARDIS engines sounded INSIDE the Hub in "End of Days" last season while he was also shown running OUTSIDE to jump on the outside of the TARDIS in "Utopia" in DOCTOR WHO Series 3.

Still no explanation why a supposedly covert agency has little blue Knight Rider lights on each side of their black SUV's windshield.

Mr. Finch (Anthony Head) from DOCTOR WHO's "School Reunion" episode needs to appear in an episode with Marster's Captain John Hart. I'm just sayin'...

Torchwood is too gay
by slayers bitch
Jan 27th, 2008
12:52:03 AM
Torchwood is too gay? Well I guess seeing sexual attraction/sexuality being represented on TV & in movies that is completely different than your own would feel strange. Imagine a world that shows only representations of male/male or female/female relationships. Every movie, every TV show & even the commercials- all gay. Why even every love song on the bleedin' radio-gay! Every comic book Super Hero-gay! Gee, now you may know (or can hopefully imagine) how it feels to be GAY in the "STRAIGHT" world.
Anyone else find themselves wishing..
by IAmMrMonkey!
Jan 27th, 2008
01:22:18 AM
That Captain John was leading Torchwood instead of Captain Jack? I know I certainly did.
IAmMrMonkey!
by nonsensical
Jan 27th, 2008
02:27:10 AM
Thank you, I needed the laugh. Still, I like Capt. Jack and think that adding Capt. Hart would be an awesome addition to Torchwood. Not as a leader but much the way that Spike was in Angel. That nagging son of a bitch who's just as good if not better, but not bogged down with all the bullshit of some grief he picked up in the past. Oh, and we need more of Toshi naked... I'm just sayin'.
Nonsensical
by IAmMrMonkey!
Jan 27th, 2008
04:16:34 AM
I know what you mean about Toshi! We definitely do need some more of her naked.
Another thing about Torchwood...
by montimer
Jan 27th, 2008
07:04:23 AM
How is it possible for an agency to be "above the government"? It just makes no fucking sense, particularly as they are repeatedly called in by the primeminister!!! For God's sakes either somebody cancel this pile of shite or sack Russel T Davis. In fact, if the BBC are now in the practice of hiring people involved with Buffy why don't they pay Whedon to come in and fix everything Davis has fucked up. In fact, better idea, if the BBC wants a really stunning adult Sci-Fi franchise why don't they use the money they would be spending on Torchwood to buy the rights to show Firefly re-runs. It would attract far more viewers, and not be shit
I've given up on Torchwood
by Boba Fat
Jan 27th, 2008
08:45:06 AM
This season does seem much improved but the characters are still bland or unlikable and the whole thing mixes so many genres it doesn't succeed in any. My goodwill, carried over from Dr Who has run out. I really wanted to like it.
How is everyone on torchwood bisexual???
by jccalhoun
Jan 27th, 2008
09:07:00 AM
The only people on Torchwood that actively seem to be bisexual are Captain Jack and Ianto (who, despite his cyberwoman girlfirned seems much more gay than bi to me.).

While in the latest episode Owen does suggest that everyone have sex has he ever shown any itnerest in men? Gwen made out with a woman but wasn't she under the influence of an alien? The only time Toshiko has been with a woman was when the woman was some mind reading alien. I don't really think those count.
Primeval is better...
by Mr Willi
Jan 27th, 2008
11:10:54 AM
...and it's not a great show by any means, but it is fun to watch. I didn't make it through a single episode of Torchwood last season, and I'm a big Doctor Who fan. Just bad writing -- it's like the writers are all 12-year-old boys who found the freedom to write about sex and violence for the first time. Both are so clumsily handled I sometimes wonder whether this really is a BBC program.
Sex on Torchwood
by slayers bitch
Jan 27th, 2008
01:40:11 PM
Wow, why don't you mention "all the sex" when it's straight sex? The horny soldiers during the bombing of Cardiff? The only gay soldier was the original Capt. Jack- which is where our Captain got his name. What about all of the horny straight people in every episode- fucking in bathrooms etc. (Evey single Heroes Talkback devolves into a who is hotter hayden or Kristen Bell). And ALL men are horny constantly- gay, straight or bi. And as far as all of the Torchwood members being bi..... Once you have established Aliens on Earth, monsters running around- ghosts etc. I hardly think someones gender is going to be a huge issue. These people are highly educated and the reason most of society does not accept bisexuality is because of moral/religious attitudes. Every single human has been attracted to people of both genders at some point in their lives. Gay people have "straight" crushes, straight people have "gay" crushes. To deny that is delusional. Look at more "primitive" human societies and you will see that bisexuality is accepted as part of human nature.
Totchwood is utter shit. Primeval is fast becoming the true succ
by taxman2001
Jan 27th, 2008
02:02:43 PM
It's fast, it's fun and it's now becoming a bit dark with the introduction of the alternative reality and the mysterious Oliver Leek. Torchwood? More like Turtlehead.
Ooppss lets try the title bit again
by taxman2001
Jan 27th, 2008
02:05:31 PM
"Torchwood is utter shit. Primeval is fast becoming the true successor to Dr Who."
Some improvement
by BeatsMe
Jan 27th, 2008
02:42:24 PM
I couldn't get beyond more than a few episodes last season, but I decided to give it another chance. Definitely showed signs of improvement, better pacing, characters a little more comfortable. But I totally agree that Spike would make a better team leader. John Barrowman is really just not a very good actor. Neither is the woman playing Tosh. Should've left both of them in the past last season.
Torchwood=Scientology
by snappy
Jan 27th, 2008
03:45:03 PM
Tom Cruise looky-likey John Barrowman in charge. Torchwood is a group that fights alien conspiracies from its secret HQ. Scientology conspires to torch all opposition from its alien HQ. (Credit to Tony Sandy in Private Eye magazine for that gag.)
Captain Jack on Who must be a different character
by jccalhoun
Jan 27th, 2008
03:57:31 PM
Captain Jack on Doctor Who is a great character but when he is on Torchwood he is just kind of a prick. You would think that they would try to have some consistency between the characterization on the two shows...

I can't wait until Martha shows up and is a sex craved depressed jerk.
its shit
by aestheticity
Jan 27th, 2008
04:16:09 PM
the gay stuff only bothers me in the context of being one element of the excess sexual content. as someone above said, this show tries to act adult by having sex, the worrying about it and the machinations surrounding it take over. like an adolescent. not an adult. the show is childish.
girls on torchwood
by Redmantle
Jan 27th, 2008
04:16:33 PM
I just wish, since this show is hypersexualized, they'd at least have decent looking girls on the show. Gwen and Tosh? Fugly.
So James Marsters is coming back?
by DANZIGG
Jan 27th, 2008
05:20:04 PM
That's cool i watched the episode twice to see if that quote he said was in the first episode but it was'nt. The shows okay and so is primeval but I'd trade them for new journeyman episodes wtf is up with axing the show it's class!
DOCTOR WHO Captain Jack vs. TORCHWOOD Captain Jack
by SpyGuy
Jan 27th, 2008
05:30:14 PM
I think the problem might be Chris Chibnall, who seems to prefer writing Captain Jack as broody and secretive instead of the roguish charmer he is on DOCTOR WHO. That, or Jack works much better as a supporting character playing off others instead of as the lead.

Whatever it is, Captain Jack is returning for DOCTOR WHO Series Four so at least we'll get to see the likeable Jack one more time...

Captain Jack's differences...
by lynxpro
Jan 27th, 2008
07:42:49 PM
Perhaps Jack is brooding and secretive on *Torchwood* because he's living in the 21st Century and has to be secretive from his team and the public about future events, whereas he can cut loose when he's traveling with The Doctor & Co. Food for thought.
So..
by SpikeTBB
Jan 28th, 2008
07:43:54 AM
Will the new season be shown on BBC America? Or do we have to wait on this side of the pond?
SpikeTBB
by Meglos
Jan 28th, 2008
03:56:36 PM
Did you even read the title to this article?
Fucking terrible programme
by Lost Jarv
Jan 29th, 2008
11:33:13 AM
awful , awful, awful shite. It actually makes me like Dr. Who a bit less.
Too true Jarv
by spud mcspud
Jan 30th, 2008
02:18:52 PM
I am actually looking forward to the new seasons of LOST and BATTLESTAR GALACTICA more than DOCTOR WHO this year. Cheers for that, Russell the T.
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