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STAR TREK teaser is online... via shady crappy looking YouTube... Perhaps Monday in HD!

What's this movie about? by tonagan	Jan 18th, 2008 12:54:19 PM
Details, please.
Want to know what this is about? by LordPorkington	Jan 18th, 2008 12:56:24 PM
I dunno, I think they said something about being gay...
quicktime, the final frontier by BadMrWonka	Jan 18th, 2008 12:57:07 PM
I get the sophisticated marketing for cloverfield via youtube leakage. this, I think, needs to wait to be, you know, intelligible? you can't even read the writing... also, star wars > star trek it had to be said...
I'll check back monday by kafka07	Jan 18th, 2008 12:57:09 PM
But I liked the sound effect at the end.
Little known fact... by LordPorkington	Jan 18th, 2008 12:58:22 PM
The Enterprise was built by the shipyards on the Tyne by Geordies. How do I know this? I saw them filming some scenes down by the river on the way to see the return of The Messiah to Newcastle. Totally true.
Nice trailer. by moondoggy2u	Jan 18th, 2008 12:58:37 PM
A bit too Enterprisey for my tastes, but hey, prequelitis was in vogue for a while, so I guess its nice to see Paramount continue their trek down unoriginality.
I'm no Star Trek fan... by alfiemoon	Jan 18th, 2008 12:58:57 PM
...but this actually makes me quite interested to see the film. I also like the way that it works on a metaphorical as well as a literal level. Nicely done.
Battlestar Galactica crossover by Scott Summers	Jan 18th, 2008 12:59:23 PM
Nuff said ! ;)
Hard to see by Spacekicker2001	Jan 18th, 2008 12:59:31 PM
But notice that it is kind of like that fake teaser...at least Nimoy's voice
I Just Got Chills by A-COD	Jan 18th, 2008 01:00:52 PM
That was well done and I got very excited. Then I remembered that the Superman Returns teaser was unbelievable too, now I spit when someone mentions that movie.
bring on the HD, please by Sir Loin	Jan 18th, 2008 01:01:19 PM
Much as I enjoyed the YouTube vid, it's like watching RealMedia back in 1996 :)
First! by robertplant	Jan 18th, 2008 01:01:33 PM
To say "Who gives a fuck about youtube... I have it in HD right here." http://tinyurl.com/yqznon
What does this have to do with GLORIOUS quicktime? Need Digg But by warp11	Jan 18th, 2008 01:01:43 PM
Would love to have just a nice little icon to "digg" a cool article like this. Come on, what could it hurt? Maybe a little Fark in there too. etc. Warp 11 (Star Trek Band) @ Concert in the Park last summer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =yXxA0mR29us
THAT WAS PRETTYY COOL by BringingSexyBack	Jan 18th, 2008 01:01:44 PM
I love trailers. Now make it a good movie, Bob Orci.
The really sad part about this by moondoggy2u	Jan 18th, 2008 01:02:05 PM
is that the banal script-writers for this thing actually think they're being original and that any similarity to Harve Bennett's idea is just one big coincidence.
Nice Teaser by testricals	Jan 18th, 2008 01:03:34 PM
Who cares where the fuck the ship is built, i just want a good film.
Can't See Shit by DrTobiasFunke	Jan 18th, 2008 01:03:52 PM
Wow, that sure, um, sounded nice. I'll check back on Monday.
By The Way... by A-COD	Jan 18th, 2008 01:04:09 PM
This project can go either way, but after Star Trek's release can we all join together and call for a ban on prequels?
I GOT CHILLS FROM THE FAKE TEASER TOO by BringingSexyBack	Jan 18th, 2008 01:05:34 PM
It's all in the music.
It's being built in a space bubble! by rsswope	Jan 18th, 2008 01:07:57 PM
Billy Shatners head!XD
Not much different from the fake trailer, really by Mockingbird Girl	Jan 18th, 2008 01:08:51 PM
(And, frankly, neither was very good.)
Wait, is this whole movie about building the ship? by tonagan	Jan 18th, 2008 01:10:17 PM
Then man, is that going to be dull. The Federation taking bids from contractors, town hall meetings to discuss zoning permits. Sigh.
LOOKS SO AWESOME by Kragmose	Jan 18th, 2008 01:11:35 PM

I thought it was by johnnykool	Jan 18th, 2008 01:12:02 PM
Built in space? STINO!
Tonagan, don't forget the paint scheme debate. by IAmJack'sUserID	Jan 18th, 2008 01:12:36 PM
I hear the movie picks up when they decide on the interior decoration.
Should have had new Kirk Pine say "Space... the final frontier" by YackBacker	Jan 18th, 2008 01:17:33 PM
Or at least play Shatner's cut.
Yeah that was cool... by Pipple	Jan 18th, 2008 01:20:06 PM
made me feel like a little kid again in a way. I gotta say I always loved space exploration. It's the great unifier of all mankind, something we can all get behind and look forward to etc...
TONAGAN by Deadlowtide	Jan 18th, 2008 01:21:21 PM
That is hilarious and that also sounds about as interesting as Episode 1's thrilling Tax plot.
OKAY.... I'M HARD..!!! by Greigy Just Wanted To Say	Jan 18th, 2008 01:22:44 PM
12 LONG MONTHS....
Who knew? by Gislef_crow	Jan 18th, 2008 01:23:05 PM
So the Borg traveled back through time to help build the Enterprise? Okay...
I don't care if it was built on earth, but... by slfricky	Jan 18th, 2008 01:24:51 PM
Why does this trailer seem to imply that this is the first Enterprise ever, and that "the future begins", if this is all supposed to come after Enterprise?
HARRY SOME THOUGHTS ON ENTERPRISE EARTH BUILD by Deus Vult	Jan 18th, 2008 01:26:54 PM
So did my subject line make it? if not, here's the jist of it: does it REALLY matter where the ship is built? QUICK ANSWER: NO. now, some talkbackers have mentioned that, according to their trek encyclopedias, the first enterprise was built piece by piece on earth, then the pieces were sent to some atmospheric station for full assembly. Harry does that make you feel better? all kidding aside, every great sci-fi ship was built on a planet; the falcon, the sdf-1, the ship HAL ran, and now clearly the enterprise. also, how do we know its actually being built on earth? maybe its inside of some orbital station? I didn't see any futuristic fast food drive-throughs in the background so who knows? and, honestly, is it really worth getting upset about? I've noticed a few people complaining about it, yes you harry are included, but hey, SO WHAT? does it REALLY matter? no in the end it doesn't. let's just be happy the movie doesn't include clones of picard or cigar-shaped ships angry there are no more whales on earth. now I'm asking for the last time...is it a lion or is it huge or both?
WILL THIS ENTERPRISE HAVE TOILETS... by Greigy Just Wanted To Say	Jan 18th, 2008 01:27:48 PM
Seriously that used to really bother me as a kid. It kind explained that Shatnerian zig zag running in Shore Leave.... the man was dying for a piss.
"KHAAAAAAAAAAN!" by KillaKane	Jan 18th, 2008 01:28:24 PM
Err, sorry just had a Shat attack! ;-)Diggin that trailer, c'mon with that Quicktime already...
PLEASE GOD LET THE SETS LOOK LIKE THE ORIGINAL SERIES.. by Greigy Just Wanted To Say	Jan 18th, 2008 01:32:03 PM
Tidy them up obviously, mute the colours a little but it would show real balls and faith in the classic designs... something that Enterprise series just lacked... Don't do that standard very tired looking Next Gen look....
To Dark to tell by Darth Ed	Jan 18th, 2008 01:32:58 PM
Looks interesting, but am still worried about the whole enterprise
COME ON HARRY by cpt. tim	Jan 18th, 2008 01:36:14 PM
1. we've already seen the 1701 classic flying in earths atmosphere in the original series. 2.We've seen a ship go into warp in atmosphere in star trek 4 do you even watch star trek?
WoW. Maybe Now I Can Get Into Trek by Frodo T. Baggins	Jan 18th, 2008 01:36:53 PM
Good trailer. Millions of fans cant be wrong about Star Trek. I just never got into the Kirk generaion. A Picard fan myself once the borg made it interesting. Im excited to get a big budget space movie where I dont need to know the whole history. But if I did, could make it more fun. Still dont know about Pine though. Saw him in that Lohan movie and..well...theres no crapper on the Enterprise big enough for that performance
STAR TREK 14: Deus Vult Gets Anally Raped by johnnykool	Jan 18th, 2008 01:37:30 PM

STAR TREK 13: Deus Vult Visits His Proctologist by Deus Vult	Jan 18th, 2008 01:41:44 PM
johnnykool relax! no reason to get upset. I'm just here to give harry a hard time. us houstonians have to harass people from austin if/when we get the chance. in other news, I'm a bit surprised starfleet is using bluecollar workers with lowtech welding torches to built the most famous ship in the galaxy. plus I thought the vulcans had something to do w/the enterprise's construction or technology? superfans what say you?
>>> Was this a FORD TRUCK commercial??? by Jeditemple	Jan 18th, 2008 01:43:15 PM
I couldn't see anything but welders and sparks.
Got chills - even tho' the image quality looked like a Rorschach by odysseus	Jan 18th, 2008 01:44:58 PM
Great use of archival sound bytes, too. Now THAT'S a teaser.
John Glenn by wintocha67	Jan 18th, 2008 01:45:15 PM
Putting a blurb from a speech mentioning "God" in a trailer for a Gene Roddenberry inspired movie is the ultimate in disrespect to the Star Trek ideal and community. Religion has no place in the future of mankind.
I want my INDY Teaser by Gungan Slayer	Jan 18th, 2008 01:45:57 PM
That's what I want.
They got a nice still at Dark Horizons by Se7en	Jan 18th, 2008 01:46:03 PM
They posted a nice still of the Enterprise over at Dark Horizons... promising..
Bird of Prey by HEADGEEK	Jan 18th, 2008 01:46:04 PM
I'm not sure if the Bird of Prey went to warp in atmosphere - cuz I seem to remember that it was full impulse - and that Sulu said once they were clear of Earth Atmosphere - that they had hit Warp Factor something or another. And as for the Enterprise in the original series being in an atmosphere... I just missed that episode.
Harry that is the nerdiest thing you've ever written by joeelliott	Jan 18th, 2008 01:48:31 PM
-- and that says alot
Who really gives a shit by batzilla	Jan 18th, 2008 01:51:16 PM
about fucking "Star Trak"?? Yeah, I said it! Star TRAK!!! I hated the stupid TV show and the movies are goofy and ...William Shatner??? Give me a break I could NEVER understand what people saw in this stuff. Give me some new Star Wars.
Looks Cool.... by The Funk	Jan 18th, 2008 01:52:03 PM
cant wait to see it in HD, if not later today, then Monday.
built on earth? by FleshMachine	Jan 18th, 2008 01:53:13 PM
stupid. makes no sense. it's not an earth launching vehicle.
Built By The San Francisco Gays by Frodo T. Baggins	Jan 18th, 2008 01:53:40 PM
Im tellin ya. Then assembled in space. Come on. You think the Gays have parades for no reason?
funny choice for the text and the familiar logo by ArcadianDS	Jan 18th, 2008 01:53:57 PM
as it was fading in and out of focus like an old time movie reel from the late 30s.
That was darker than Batman by skywalkerfamily	Jan 18th, 2008 01:54:08 PM
What was that? I couldn't see anything.
YOU MISSED AN EPISODE...!! JESUS by Greigy Just Wanted To Say	Jan 18th, 2008 01:54:42 PM
How the fuck can you get to 30+ years of age and miss an episode...!!! JESUS...
well, certainly feels different by mansep	Jan 18th, 2008 01:55:13 PM
but doesn't do anything to excite. maybe they're still at Teaser Trailer Academy.
pats Batzilla on head by critch	Jan 18th, 2008 01:55:48 PM
Good boy, here's a cookie.
Can they retcon seatbelts onto the bridge? by Abin Sur	Jan 18th, 2008 01:56:23 PM
Safety first.
CHECK OUT YOU HD-DVD BOXSET..!!!! by Greigy Just Wanted To Say	Jan 18th, 2008 01:57:28 PM
They oversaturated the colours and put in effects that looked like pre-vis for Babylon 5's first season but hey.... it'll be on blue-ray soon...!!!
Harry by Falcon5768	Jan 18th, 2008 01:57:51 PM
The BoP was most certainly in Atmosphere when it warped out. Someone hunted down Gene's 1968 Making of Star Trek book (which contained in part much of the bible of the show as well) where he spelled out quite clearly the major parts of the ship where built on Earth and lifted off to orbit via some sort of anti-gravity sled. So the Enterprise was always intended to have been built on Earth, even by Gene. Considering Orci and company are not just fans of the show, but have read the decidedly non-canon books, it would make sense one of them at one time read Gene's autobiography of the making of the show to gleam out details
Nimoys Voice by iRovr	Jan 18th, 2008 01:58:10 PM
Must be
people do realize the Enterprise is not big right? by Falcon5768	Jan 18th, 2008 02:09:05 PM
Its only 289 meters long. In comparison, the aircraft carrier Enterprise is something like 60-70 meters longer.
The Enterprise being built by sweaty guys with blowtorches.. by Darth_Inedible	Jan 18th, 2008 02:09:26 PM
Finally a Trek picture I can relate too! Thanks JJ. I sure hope it's being built at some sort of futuristic secret "area 51"-type place on Earth because the whole idea of crazy floating spaceyards seems so unbelievable. If these guys were in charge of the original 60s series Kirk's communicator would have looked like a portable WWII radio.
atmosphere by McDee	Jan 18th, 2008 02:10:19 PM
didn't a fighter pilot see the Enterprise during one of the time travel episodes, then they beam the guy into his own body, and this time the ship is gone? Still not gonna be anywhere as cool as the Adama Maneuver
Gay..... by Han Cholo	Jan 18th, 2008 02:11:08 PM
I predict so much backlash from this film it's not even funny.
God... Let Shatner be in this... by Demode	Jan 18th, 2008 02:12:09 PM
Even if its just at the end of the film. Hell, use the "de-aging" used in X-Men 3 on Patric Stewart and have Shatner playing Kirk before the event s of Generations. They don't have to bring him back to life (although that would be nice too.) I don't care how they do it, I just want to see him in the film where he belongs.
I'm with Harry by bluebottle	Jan 18th, 2008 02:15:09 PM
I'm not even a Star Trek fan, but I always thought the Enterprise was built in space. I didn't think it was designed to land/take off a planet. Maybe it's boosted into space for it's initial launch?
No bid contracts and kickbacks... by veritasses	Jan 18th, 2008 02:15:17 PM
Which company's building that thing? And to the serious Trek(ies/ers) is it possible that the ship's being built inside a Starbase or in an enclosed moon base?
BOP did not warp in the Atmosphere... by Demode	Jan 18th, 2008 02:15:59 PM
It didn't go to warp in the atmosphere in ST4. It just left Earth at a very fast speed, which gave us the "rainbow effect." It was a pretty effect, which is why they did it. But the ship didn't go to warp in the atmosphere.
Reminds me of Flashdance by skywalkerfamily	Jan 18th, 2008 02:19:41 PM
What a feeling!
batzilla by cutest_of_borg	Jan 18th, 2008 02:22:35 PM
As Dr. Evil said, "Scott, you just don't get it, do ya?" ALL HAIL TREK. Abrams is my personal Jesus. Lost, Trek, and Dark Tower on the way. Could life get any better?
I know Engineers by skywalkerfamily	Jan 18th, 2008 02:26:50 PM
they love to change things.
batzilla be careful what you wish for by Hervoyel	Jan 18th, 2008 02:27:11 PM
Remember what happened last time somebody somewhere said "Give me some new Star Wars".
Appalled by MrSpunkmeister2u	Jan 18th, 2008 02:27:34 PM
If this teaser is any indication of what the movie will be like then I'm already boycotting it. The Enterprise being built on earth???? WTF!!!! How is it going to take off? Are they going to strap big shuttle boosters to it's nacelles (I hope they fixed those O-Rings!)? Enterprise is far to large to maneuver in an atmosphere, she's not aerodynamic, no anti grav (like voyager) and it just not equipped for flight within an atmosphere. I know I'm being a geek about it but I can't believe they've done something so ignorant!
WHAT'S THE OFFICIAL TITLE FOR THIS? by BringingSexyBack	Jan 18th, 2008 02:28:44 PM
Star Trek Begins? Year Zero? Attack of the Tribbles?
MrSpunkmeister2u by testricals	Jan 18th, 2008 02:31:05 PM
Twat
I didnt' see anything in that trailer that would by Hervoyel	Jan 18th, 2008 02:31:37 PM
...lead me to believe that the Enterprise was being built "on earth". Ok, so I haven't seen it on the big screen and honestly I didn't see much of anything at all in that YouTube piece of crap but looking at the large image that was posted the other day I see that it's being built in "an atmosphere". Nowhere does it say that it's earth's atmosphere. Also did anyone notice the "under construction" line? For all we know this scene is some expensive advertising CGI and nothing more. In my opinion it's just Trekkie jerkoff material until proven otherwise.
Cutest of Borg, you think we'll get Dark Tower in our lifetime? by Abin Sur	Jan 18th, 2008 02:32:38 PM
You're quite the optimist.
This movie is going to blow by kwisatzhaderach	Jan 18th, 2008 02:32:49 PM
Can anybody honestly say, hand on heart, that Mission Imossible III was a great film? It was like a TV movie...no sense of spectacle, rapid editing and confusing geography. Compare JJ's bridge attack scene with the one done by Cameron in True Lies, Cameron's is brilliantly shot and edited - result? It is tremendously exciting. JJ has no talent in his selection of shots and editing. This is typical pre-release PR bullshit. Crap trailer. Come back Nicholas Meyer, perhaps the only truly talented director (Robert Wise aside) the Trek film franchise ever had.
Do they play that "Our Country" song over by skywalkerfamily	Jan 18th, 2008 02:35:23 PM
the teaser? I hate that song.
Specially created footage? by davros72	Jan 18th, 2008 02:37:01 PM
Anyone else think this construction footage in the teaser is stuff they created specifically for the teaser, and isn't part of the actual film? Hopefully that'll render all this built-in-space/built-on-Earth nonsense moot. Nice teaser though.
I loved the archival speeches. by rbatty024	Jan 18th, 2008 02:42:03 PM
It lends a sense of majesty and wonder back to space exploration. I think a sense of wonder was missing from both Voyager and Enterprise. Hopefully this film will rectify that.
so thats... by Holgi65	Jan 18th, 2008 02:42:08 PM
...how they build the Statue of Liberty for Cloverfield. Well, Christmas.. way to go. Besides the Mr. Jones adeventure, now I realy need a trailer for that >Happening< in June...Friday the 13th, hehe. Looks like "Night"-time for me. Could Harry call someone about that, even a teaser...?
Holy Transporter Beam, Scotty! by ccchhhrrriiisssm	Jan 18th, 2008 02:44:07 PM
That was one heck of a teaser!!!
shit by DirtyWookie	Jan 18th, 2008 02:46:33 PM
a pile of big shit
Nice teaser, now let's see it again in HD by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 18th, 2008 02:47:05 PM
"Dad, why did you bring me to a gay steel mill?"
What did Mr. Spock see in the toilet? by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 18th, 2008 02:48:38 PM
Captain's log. Ha, I kill me. Thanks, you've been a lovely audience. Good night.
Seriously though, this could just be a re-fit of by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 18th, 2008 02:50:25 PM
Pike's Enterprise before it's given to Kirk. That would actually be canon, and spare the geeks (myself included) hurt feelings. Enterprise had a re-fit at the beginning of TMP, so why no just prior to TOS when command is given to Kirk?
It should be noted... by vadakinX	Jan 18th, 2008 02:50:34 PM
The teaser also goes against the book that says the enterprise was assembled in space...assuming the enterprise in the teaser was on Earth...look at it, does it look like it needs assembling? No...it's being fully built on Earth in the film, which goes against all canon. Now I couldn't give a shit...I wanted to throw out canon and reboot with a Klingon War trilogy, but what pisses me off is that the overrated hacks, Abrams and Orci are essentially lying when they say they're sticking to canon...and I hate liars.
Abin Sur by cutest_of_borg	Jan 18th, 2008 02:52:21 PM
I may be crazy but I thought Abrams was doing the Dark Tower pretty soon. Still hasn't been mentioned if it is a miniseries, films, or HBO series. Personally would love it to be an HBO series of about 30 episodes over the course of three seasons or so. And yes, I am ever the optimist.
Um vadakinX, the books aren't canon by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 18th, 2008 02:57:08 PM
If you show me in a film or series where it says Enterprise was built in space then okay it's canon. I don't know or care. I'm a trek geek, but I'll put that in the uber geek category. Like I said in the other post if JJ starts screwing with character timelines, and changes that are documented in any series, then I'll be angry at him. By the way, I hate liars too,that's why I'm unemployed and looking for work, while the liars are still working.
Borgster... by Abin Sur	Jan 18th, 2008 02:57:52 PM
Well, you're not crazy - the deal is, SK said that when he's ready to sell the DT property, JJ's got first right to buy, and he said he'd sell it to them for 19 dollars (Ka, don't you think?). But it will take them years just to figure out WHAT format to release it in. I wince at the ABC Network version.
Oh, and Borg? by Abin Sur	Jan 18th, 2008 02:58:19 PM
Jim Caviezel IS Roland! Had to get that in.
kwisatzhaderach, Mission Impossible III by MattmanReturns	Jan 18th, 2008 03:02:06 PM
I didn't think MI3 was a great film, but I did think it was a damn good one, and easily the best of the MI series. It was intensely entertaining. Then again, I always liked Alias.
M:I-3 by vadakinX	Jan 18th, 2008 03:06:02 PM
It's essentially Alias: The Movie...the characters are even the same, just played by different actors.
Could the Enterprise be built in Space Dock? by ccchhhrrriiisssm	Jan 18th, 2008 03:07:18 PM
It certainly looks like this could be the case. Besides, the images of builders without space suits does not imply that it is built on Earth. They could have been working inside the ship, or behind a force field, et al... Anyway, GREAT TEASER! I am now officially excited -- and I am not really a Trekkie (only really liked Wrath of Khan, even though First Contact and Undiscovered Country were decent).
MI:3 was worth the admission. by Saluki	Jan 18th, 2008 03:08:02 PM
Well beyond anything on TV, and I've seen plenty of Spooks & 24. Why MI:3 gets so much shit, when MI:2 is the true black sheep, surprises me. MI:1 takes some getting used to, but it has it's own appeal. Thumbs up on the teaser, but I also think it being built in space is just all-around cooler (and somehow makes more sense).
Grammaton by ArcadianDS	Jan 18th, 2008 03:11:38 PM
Roddenberry published a 'writer's bible' for anyone intent on submitting potential scripts to himself or DesiLu Productions. In that bible, he states specifically that 'our ship was built in space, and has never known the gravity of any planet' or words to that effect. I'm sure you can google for a word-for-word quote, but I'm confident that I'm within 90 to 95 percent accuracy. So if you want to discuss what is and what is not actually canon, I think when Gene Roddenberry specifically states that the Enterprise was built in space and not on any planet, well I kinda think Gene Roddenberry is the actual FONT of all things Star Trek Canon - wouldn't you?
ccchhhrrriiisssm is a fair weather trekkie by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 18th, 2008 03:14:01 PM
Only likes the best three movies, but when someone brings up Star Trek V he's like "I'm not a Trekkie." I just heard the rooster crow a third time.
WELL IF NOTHING ELSE THIS TEASER HAS ACHIEVED ITS GOAL by Deus Vult	Jan 18th, 2008 03:20:20 PM
and as harry, mori, whoever will confirm, the goal of any teaser trailer is to GET PEOPLE TALKING and lo! it is so. EVERYONE is officially talking about this trailer, save anderson cooper of course. although oddly enough I read a review of cloverfield in the weekly standard now someone above said the enterprise is too large to manuever in an atmosphere. hmmm...not sure about that one, considering according to the chart on wikipedia its roughly the size of an aircraft carrier. and if memory serves the sdf-1 was a mile long and yet took from macross island just fine. until it accidentally folded and took all of the island with it into deep space. uh hmm...looks like I shot myself in the foot with that one. nevertheless, the trailer's got all of geekdom, from austin to austria, talking about this movie, and it doesn't come out for a year. so congrats abrams, you've done it again.
lol...Grammaton Cleric Binks... by ccchhhrrriiisssm	Jan 18th, 2008 03:20:44 PM
I suppose that it would be better to say that I am a "fair weather sci fi fan." I only like the good films. Is that a problem. Oh, and yes, I cringed when I watched Star Trek 5. I am still waiting for my refund from Paramount Studios! But I do have respect for JJ Abrams' mind, along with Roberto Orci. There is quite a bit of potential here, and I don't think that they would ruin it for any but the most closed-minded Trekkie (who wouldn't be happy if Roddenberry's overrated corpse were to rise from the dead and write the script).
REMEMBER CHEKHOV ASKING TO RAISE SHIELDS AND KIRK LOOKED by BringingSexyBack	Jan 18th, 2008 03:24:05 PM
stupified? Yeah, that's when Khan blasted the Enterprise. Everyone should be glad he's doing Priceline commercials instead of commanding the Enterprise.
Abrams sucks. by Darksider	Jan 18th, 2008 03:25:05 PM
And apparently owns this site.
PLEASE GOD - NO ABC NETWORK! by cutest_of_borg	Jan 18th, 2008 03:27:12 PM
Oh, and HUGH JACKMAN IS ROLAND!
One thing for sure, Abrams sure know how to promote himself NO by Proman1984	Jan 18th, 2008 03:28:06 PM
It's Paramount who's Promoting him. They are trying to make him the next Spielberg and JJ is no Spielberg.
"...sounds like a piss-poor Captain." by ccchhhrrriiisssm	Jan 18th, 2008 03:29:36 PM
...said John Locke, when Boone pointed out how often the red shirts died beneath his command. Is this Abrams' take on Kirk? Anyway, I thought that MI:3 was the best of the MI series, Cloverfield is pretty darn good and LOST and ALIAS have been dynamic shows (well, LOST is near the top of my all time favorites list). Contrary to the attitude of some, I'll have to see the film before judging it. I do think that Abrams and Orci are good candidates for a reboot, though. I'm crossing my fingers, because I really HOPE to enjoy it. I'm really afraid that my expectations will be too high.
The BoP Did Go To Warp in the Atmosphere... by jub3i	Jan 18th, 2008 03:29:50 PM
Here's the god damned dialogue from the movie: SCOTTY Admiral! There be whales here! THE BRIDGE (INTERCUT) KIRK: Well done, Mr. Scott. How soon can we be ready for warp speed? SCOTTY: I'll have to re-energize. KIRK: Don't take too long. We're sitting ducks for their radar systems... Mr. Sulu, impulse climb. BIRD OF PREY - as she begins to climb with moderate speed to altitude. BRIDGE UHURA: Unidentified aircraft, 40,000 feet MSL, range 30 miles, bearing 010. KIRK: Mr. Scott -- how soon? SCOTTY: Stand by, sir. Miracle worker at work... KIRK: Mr. Scott, don't make jokes, we are in danger of - SCOTTY: Full power, sir. KIRK: Mr. Sulu, if you please. SULU: Aye, sir, warp speed! And then the BoP zooms off, heading for the sun. Sounds like to me the order was given and carried out in the Earth's atmosphere...
Proman1984... by ccchhhrrriiisssm	Jan 18th, 2008 03:32:08 PM
No offense, but Spielberg is terribly overrated. He wants to be the Roy Hobbes of directors ("the best there ever was"), but he hardly ever gets up to bat anymore. His material is just not what it could have been. But you're right: Abrams is no Spielberg.
ccchhhrrriiisssm, glad you can appreciate a by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 18th, 2008 03:33:10 PM
joke. I'm surprised you didn't list Star Trek IV though as one of your favorites though. Most trekkies loved that one. I thought it was hysterical. You're going to bring a lot of hate on yourself though calling Roddenberry overrated.
Enterprise.. by CeejayNightwing	Jan 18th, 2008 03:37:23 PM
Looks to me like it was simply being assembled in space, not built from scratch. That would satisfy all the nitpickers and hopefully if that is the case, not fall prey to the Enterprise TV show's nasty habit of being totally inconsistent with pre-established history. Christopher Pike is in the film so it would more likely be a scene of the Enterprise being refitted if in the film at all. My worry is the half-assed casting in the movie for some of the lead roles, Simon Pegg as Scotty? Paul McGillion not only looks like Scotty but IS Scottish! Enough with the fanboy selections and at least get the initial casting done decently so the film can have a chance as a serious production and not a spoof!
Source of the Material by Archive	Jan 18th, 2008 03:39:18 PM
Guys, I think the bad quality is because somebody camcorded this off of a screen today in a show of Cloverfield and matted the frames. I don't think it's any reflection on Bad Robot, and I'm betting they planned on you seeing all this on the big screen, before anywhere else. Seems to me, it's meant to be a public statement that JJ has his genre house in order, and to trust him a bit. Besides, the big screen, given the history and prestige of the franchise, is the appropriate place to premier the trailer.
Falcon5768 by eXcommunicated	Jan 18th, 2008 03:41:06 PM
You do realize that makes the Enterprise only 3 TIMES LONGER THAN THE STATUE OF LIBERTY IS HIGH, right? About 3 FOOTBALL FIELDS long.
Cloverfield style no-title trailer. by GibsonUSA	Jan 18th, 2008 03:47:44 PM
The mainstream will think its still Picard and gang though...
Growing up we had Spielberg, Cameron and Zemekis wowing us with by Fa Fa Fooey	Jan 18th, 2008 03:47:54 PM
You kids today have JJ Abrams. You poor, deprived souls...
ST is so played out by Rupee88	Jan 18th, 2008 03:49:43 PM
I just can't manage any excitement over this despite loving the original show.
Guys, guys, guys... by Archive	Jan 18th, 2008 03:51:20 PM
the @ssholes just did a great interview with the Editor-in-Chief of Marvel about what goes into the decision to change a much-beloved franchise, and that guy, in many respects, probably knows better than anyone alive. I suggest you give it a read before condemming JJ Abrams or the blokes at Paramount. If you're going to comdemn them, do it for failing to strike a fair deal with the WGA!
Fa Fa Fooey, um what about a little known by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 18th, 2008 03:51:40 PM
director called George Lucas. He might have impacted our lives juuuuuust a little bit. (Howard the Duck aside)
Not to geek out on Trek, but ... by TheCap	Jan 18th, 2008 03:52:09 PM
I can understand how components would be assembled on Earth, then lifted into orbit for final assembly. Not much os a stretch there, really. What IS pushing believability is that you'd still have conventional "dirty" welding techniques in use by the 22nd century. I doubt you could create a standard weld with the "advanced" materials that would be in use to build the old-E we came to know and love. No, the whole "welding" idea is for the birds, JJ. Let's hope it was just a ploy used exclusively for the trailer. Welders assembling a starship ? Yeah, right. And if my grandmother had a horn, she'd be a wagon.
Star Trek is boring,,,,,,,, by godhatesyou	Jan 18th, 2008 03:53:04 PM
JJ is an asshole.........
I can see the construction commercial now by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 18th, 2008 03:54:29 PM
Krazy Glue, strong enough to hold a Vulan in mid-air.
"If you're going to comdemn them, do it for failing to strike a by critch	Jan 18th, 2008 03:58:37 PM
The writers don't want a fair deal. They want a deal that's good for them and to hell with everyone else.
Cloverfield was stupid.........Lost is stupid... by godhatesyou	Jan 18th, 2008 04:01:26 PM
You have no talent..........you like your own hype. Hearing the sound of your own name..........you are the shittest thing ever,,,,,,,,,the death of the old internet and the rebirth of the new.
Ass Trek -- The Search For Cock by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz	Jan 18th, 2008 04:02:40 PM
and so it begins.
Why is Terry O'Quinn not in this?? by performingmonkey	Jan 18th, 2008 04:08:42 PM
He definitely should have been. He should be playing a veteran captain. Also...no Archer cameo??????
ArcadianDS, just the post, thanks for the info by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 18th, 2008 04:08:59 PM
and yes I agree. If Mean Gene says this is the way we're doing it, then this is they way we're doing it.
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ATTENTION TREKKIES... by andyny29	Jan 18th, 2008 04:14:57 PM
STAR TREK IS DEAD! DEAL WITH IT! JUST WATCH ANY EP OF VOYAGER OR ENTERPISE IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME! GET ON WITH YOUR LIVES AND GET OUT OF YOUR PARENT'S BASEMENTS.
so is this just ignoring th Enterprise tv show? by BMacSmith	Jan 18th, 2008 04:15:33 PM

MORI - - - CLEAN UP IN AISLE 3 PLEASE by BringingSexyBack	Jan 18th, 2008 04:20:28 PM
TheBrainMaster just shat on the floor.
SPEAKING OF MORI ... by BringingSexyBack	Jan 18th, 2008 04:23:19 PM
When the hell are you gonna post some reviews man? Capone's written a novel in the last 2 days. I know you're a father and all, but we're your kids too you know. Geez
I'm an Old School Trek fan.... by Agent Johnson	Jan 18th, 2008 04:23:39 PM
and I hate this project. Why couldn't they have just left old Star Trek be OLD Star Trek? Why try to re-write it? Sometimes things are glorious as is and don't need ANOTHER sequel? Just another example of how Hollywood feeds off itself, never really having any new ideas. Kust like Superman Returns. Instead of telling their own story, they had to borrow from some one elses.
Yeah, but by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 18th, 2008 04:25:31 PM

I just want a good movie by geodesigns	Jan 18th, 2008 04:25:47 PM
If it happens to be a good Star Trek movie- better. STII:TWOK was a good example of appeasing the Trekkie nerds (like myself) and general audiences. I lean toward TOS-centric stories, so I'm glad they are finally starting over. And I think that old Kirk needs a cameo in the end- LOL.
Yeah, but agent Johnson if they left by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 18th, 2008 04:26:50 PM
old Star Trek to be just that we never would have had the movies or TNG. Most trekkies love TOS, TNG, the movies and beyond.
Archive, no offense... by Big Dumb Ape	Jan 18th, 2008 04:36:46 PM
But just because someone like a Joe Quesada (as Editor in Chief at Marvel) or a JJ Abrams (as an independent movie producer) has the POWER to make the decisions about changing a much-beloved franchise... ...Doesn't mean they are making the RIGHT decisions. In fact, let's be honest and have a little REALITY check here. A little bucket of cold water thrown into the face. History in both movies and comics has long since proven and shown that usually -- accent on usually -- that most "changes in a much-beloved franchise" were actually made with a financial bottom line in mind (ie. a gimmicky sales hook to boost revenue) and NOT a true artistic purpose or goal.
The movies by Agent Johnson	Jan 18th, 2008 04:37:15 PM
are really what catapulted the series, so I include those in the Old Trek discussion. TNG and all the rest was Star Trek for pussies. The TNG movies have sucked, and, Jesus, I watched a few episodes of Voyager... Anyways, I just think that this is all a bad idea. I have real trouble with the new cast, especially. Now, if it's a one-off movie in the history of Trek, then it could work. If it's another lame Hollywood attempt to exploit legendary stories and characters so that they can have another new franchise, then I hope it fails.
Agent Johsnon just called Worf a pussy. by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 18th, 2008 04:41:19 PM
"If you were any other man I would kill you where you stand." Worf, First Contact.
She'll be anti-grav lifted into space by aboriginal	Jan 18th, 2008 04:42:42 PM
Big and dramatic and unlike the failure of the Jupiter 1/2 launch from that good 'ol remake.
I hate it when teasers... by Royston Lodge	Jan 18th, 2008 04:43:33 PM
I hate it when teasers with a "big reveal" like this one feature the logos of the production companies at the beginning. This trailer would have been WAY more effective if they didn't give away what movie it was by showing the Paramount/Bad Robot logos. Immediately, we know what the welder is working on. A much better tactic would have been to show workers working on "something", and we don't realize what it is until the VERY end. Spock's voice-over also occurs too early in the teaser, again ruining the "surprise".
Mattman by kwisatzhaderach	Jan 18th, 2008 04:50:16 PM
I like Alias and Lost, I feel JJ is better suited to the small screen. He doesn't have a particularly cinematic sensibility. I still think this is going to be a poor movie.
Nimoy's croaking... by Bill Clay	Jan 18th, 2008 04:53:35 PM
...sounded like a dying gasp. That was the best reading they could get for that line? Also, the opening for the ST:Enterprise TV show already used the evolution of space flight as a theme. This teaser was disappointing.
Enterprise... by cuttr	Jan 18th, 2008 04:53:51 PM
OK, I haven't read the talkbacks because I'm pressed for time, so this may have been discussed, but... The rationale for building in space is because it takes a great deal of effort and energy to lift stuff into orbit. So, assuming the development of a propulsion technology that eliminates this concern, and also assuming that we're (relatively) early in our ability to source raw materials off-planet, building the Enterprise on Earth makes some sense. Maybe they used recycled materials or something.
Yes, Worf was a pusssy by Agent Johnson	Jan 18th, 2008 04:54:32 PM
Kirk would have kicked his ass for than line. kwisatzhaderach, I agree that he is much better suited for the small screen. I really enjoyed Alias (while it has a couple down seasons, loved the series ender), and Lost is one of the best shows ever. MI3 was pretty lame, although I kinda blame Tom Cruise for part of that as well, Cloverfield is not a particularly fresh idea, although it looks fun. So I think his track record in films has been a little shaky.
Abrams/Nimoy connection by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 18th, 2008 04:56:04 PM
JJ used Nimoy becaue he felt he owed him. Nimoy was in the original Mission: Impossible. MI and it's copy Alias made JJ so........
LOL Agent Johnson, to each their own by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 18th, 2008 04:58:53 PM

I liked it. by TattooedBillionaire	Jan 18th, 2008 05:10:12 PM
Hopefully, JJ gives us something strong.
BRINGINGSEXYBACK IS RIGHT--MORI BRAINMASTER ALERT by Deus Vult	Jan 18th, 2008 05:18:30 PM
Uh wait a minute here...is that guy saying its better to get paid in us dollars if you're canadian? I thought the canadian dollar was trading at the same level as the us dollar? no? for me that was the most compelling part of his post which dealt neither with the movie or abrams. so again, mori, cleanup on aisle three please.
I thought it was a Ford commercial by SoylentMean	Jan 18th, 2008 05:21:25 PM
Seriously, thought it was one of those montage commercials where construction workers are building something and you see the truck they're trying to sell doing all sorts of neat stuff, only in this commercial it's a space ship they're selling! I want a fuckin' spaceship!!!!!!!! But not one from a rental company.
Enterprise in Space by Dokkalvar	Jan 18th, 2008 05:23:44 PM
Why would they build a starship on Earth? with WW2 welders no less (like they are making a fucking oil tanker or something), or even consider this to be the first starship? It wasn't. The Enterprise was built by the time Kirk came along! Space makes more sense and not anymore far-fetched then them building the ship at Area 51 (groaaaannn.. --isn't Area 51 basically abandoned now? Something about nuclear waste..) Honestly, who gives a shit. I agree. We don't need a prequel about Kirk and crew. We don't need anymore damn Prequels. Stop it. Bad Hollywood! They are obviously going to offend the old guard and I doubt they'll bring on any new followers. JJ would be more successful waiting by the ticket counter and begging me for $10.75
I liked NEMESIS,it was so.... by travis-dane	Jan 18th, 2008 05:23:54 PM
masculine.Like Worf,he is masculine too.
It's an Enterprise rent a car commercial! by skywalkerfamily	Jan 18th, 2008 05:24:03 PM

Yes, Built in atmosphere. by CaptainWalker	Jan 18th, 2008 05:25:12 PM

NO SKYWALKER & SOYLENT ITS AN ITT TECH COMMERCIAL by Deus Vult	Jan 18th, 2008 05:26:46 PM
can't you just hear it now? get your starfleets-accredited associates degree in just 18 months in space vessel welding and general assembly. financial assistance for those who qualify.
Yes, BUilt in atmosphere. by CaptainWalker	Jan 18th, 2008 05:27:27 PM
Rodenberry stated that it was built in the Oakland Navy yards, and the pieces were then assembled in orbit. If you feel up to it, read "The Making of Star Trek" by Steven Whitfield.
Is it that wrong that it's being built on earth? by The Chosen	Jan 18th, 2008 05:29:29 PM
I don't know exactly, i didn't see ALL episodes of ALL of the series (thoug i did see a lot of them). Is it that wrong for it to be built on Earth? I mean, is it IMPOSSIBLE that ONE Enterprise was built not in space? I mean, there were tons of Enterprises, all of them destroyed and rebuilt. But is there any thing on any episode that states that EVERY ONE of them were built on space? It's not like "Spock's Mom being Vulcan". We know for sure she originaly wasn't, and this piece of info sure smells like some bad interpretation of someone in the chain of information. One guy gets to the news of Winona playing her, and spills that she'll be his vulcan mom, only this guy didn't know the character is human. I trust JJ. He did Lost. He did the freakingly best M:I movie. He produced Cloverfield. HE CASTED SIMON PEGG AS SCOTTY!
I don't get it... by Breotan	Jan 18th, 2008 05:29:48 PM
Isn't Area 51 where the Stargate guys built their starship?
JJ will suprise us all.... by travis-dane	Jan 18th, 2008 05:30:04 PM
maybe the whole "where they build it"thing is just a setup.Like the "Godzilla stomping T-Rex" teaser?
Needs Giant Robots. by TomBodet	Jan 18th, 2008 05:31:10 PM
AND Mikey_Bay. You know you agree, too.
A bit off-topic... by DocPazuzu	Jan 18th, 2008 05:35:04 PM
...but not by much: A lot of people consider Nemesis to be the absolute nadir of Trek entertainment. This is not so, for there is nothing Trekkish which exceeds the sheer shittitude of Insurrection. My God, that movie has nothing, and I mean NOTHING, going for it. An absolutely ghastly cuntburger of a film from beginning to end. Nemesis, a mediocre and fairly entertaining film, is like fucking Empire Strikes Back compared to Insurrection. Not even Anthony Zerbe can make it right.
who wants to have sex with the redesigned Enterprise? by Mysterious Yobo	Jan 18th, 2008 05:35:21 PM
im its pimp.
What is this; Steampunk Trek? Fucking arc welders and human asse by conspiracy	Jan 18th, 2008 05:37:04 PM
Jesus taint licking Christ, even in 2008 nobody builds shit like this anymore! Has JJ ever seen how a modern production facility operates? Damn, even in actual Ship contruction they are getting away from this 19th century method. I tell you, that God Damned Orci and crew must have some seriously good blow if they think THIS represents the future.I'm to believe a bunch of 23rd century UAW members are building Starships planetside in BDSM suits? What is this shit Steampunk Trek?
I actually sold... by DocPazuzu	Jan 18th, 2008 05:38:53 PM
...a NYT sunday edition to Zerbe a year or so later when he came into the Charleston WV bookstore I was working in at the time. I briefly toyed with the idea of punching him in the throat for his part in subjecting me to Insurrection. If it had been F. Murray Abraham I wouldn't have hesitated.
I have to agree w/ The PaZoozoo. by TomBodet	Jan 18th, 2008 05:39:58 PM
Seriously-Insurrection was-Meh followed by Meh followed by wanting to watch Invasion of the Neptune Men sans Cro and Tom Servo afterwards.
Fix the Fucking Subject line! by conspiracy	Jan 18th, 2008 05:40:24 PM
What is this; Steampunk Trek? Fucking arc welders and human assembly?
All TNG movies where pretty lame. by travis-dane	Jan 18th, 2008 05:41:33 PM
The crew was nothing compared to the old geezers!Kirk had more charisma in his little FINGER then the whole TNG crew!Nobody yells:"Bring Picard back",no,still to this day everybody wants KIRK!
Cloverfield was stupid.........Lost is stupid.....TRUE! by EvilDoeR	Jan 18th, 2008 05:53:38 PM
NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH! CLOVERFIELD WAS GARBAGE, AND LOST WELL LOST ME AFTER SEASON 1! JJ YOU FUCKED UP THIS MOVIE WITH THE AWFUL CASTING CHOICES! THE GUY WHO'S PLAYING THE YOUNG SULU IS OLDER THEN WHEN THE OG SULU FIRST PLAYED HIM ON TV & MOVIES! JJ YOUR A FUCKIN MORON MOST OF THIS CAST DOESN'T EVEN LOOK LIKE THE OG CAST.
EvilDoeR...Don't you know..JJ is a GENIUS! by conspiracy	Jan 18th, 2008 06:05:13 PM
A Genius at feeding very well marketed crap to easily entertained, low expectation living, juvenile drinkers of Sunny Delight that is. Fuck..from the early word and look of this mess, and with the blank check Hollywood has seemingly given him and his hackish minions half that town must be drinking the kool-aid.
Very cool, very nicely rebooted by Dreamfasting	Jan 18th, 2008 06:06:41 PM
To me, what resonated about Star Trek was not the space race part but rather the idea that the cold war would not be the end of the world, that today's tensions in our crowded little world today are just a passing thing in the grand scope of time and space. It would have been nice to hear a couple of idealistic quotes from the social side of US culture in there too - like a Martin Luther King snippet. As it stands now, there's just a nagging little hint of "NASA propaganda video" vibe. Otherwise, very cool - very much in the good taste of the franchise reboots that seem to be popular these days.
The Twist by Agent Johnson	Jan 18th, 2008 06:09:18 PM
You all know that the end the entire things happened while Spock watches on the holodeck, right?
Can't wait to see this... by 69DUDE	Jan 18th, 2008 06:12:26 PM
...on Paramount Blu-Ray Disc!! ;)
Arc-welding the Enterprise = a mesa-built Empire State Building by YackBacker	Jan 18th, 2008 06:16:12 PM
I get the "feel" that Abrams was going after with the "hand-crafted" vibe, but in 200+ years, do you think current-day methods are going to survive? Especially on such a high-tech project? Like I said, we don't make skyscrapers out of dried sand and clay, so unless the Steelworkers' union is able to accomplish the impossible in the future, this "fairy tale" Abrams is putting out there is not really well-thought out.
as a transformers fan... by redkamel	Jan 18th, 2008 06:24:29 PM
I feel bad for the Trekkies. I have a feeling they're gonna get what we got... BROTHER! (rolls eyes)
as a transformers fan... by redkamel	Jan 18th, 2008 06:25:17 PM
I have a feeling the Trekkies will get what we got...and I feel your pain...BROTHER!
wintocha67... by poeticwarriorII	Jan 18th, 2008 06:25:26 PM
have a coke and a smile and shut the fuck up you bat shit crazy cunt.
DocPazuzu, I agree it was the worst of Trek by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz	Jan 18th, 2008 06:27:34 PM
And honestly I enjoyed Nemesis. It entertained me. It was a decent film that caught a lot of flack from extreme die hards. It had a huge mountain to climb considering it came out at the same time as The Two Towers. But yeah Insurrection is the worst of the worst.
HD Stills, not sure if they're a dupe post. by Nanosquid	Jan 18th, 2008 06:29:09 PM
http://www.nanosquid.com/image s/st1.jpg http://www.nanosquid.com/image s/st2.jpg
the link got messed up... fixing. by Nanosquid	Jan 18th, 2008 06:31:56 PM
http://www.nanosquid.com/image s/st2.jpg http://www.nanosquid.com/image s/st2.jpg
Re : andyny29 by Real Deal	Jan 18th, 2008 06:34:10 PM
As you can see by the response here Star Trek is anything but dead! People are clamoring for it. Last time ST was gone for 10 years. People had moved on with Star Wars and other things and would say " Well I like the reruns but it's so dead and I can't imagine it coming back ". Well it came back stronger than ever! ST is a timeless format for telling SF stories that people want to see. If handled correctly it can be very popular and inovative. Given that B & B are gone now and have nothing to do with this I have a feeling it will come out swinging again. Get used to it!
Boldy Go by Yeti	Jan 18th, 2008 06:35:32 PM
Can't wait to see this, Xmas the movie threatres across north America will be filled with Geeks and nerds.
Never mind ripping off harve bennett by gonzofreak	Jan 18th, 2008 06:37:36 PM
What about ripping off harlan ellison? Dear god, I love Trek, but I really just want the franchise to be euthanised.
INSURRECTION > THE FINAL FRONTIER by BringingSexyBack	Jan 18th, 2008 06:39:30 PM
Why people are aching for a Shat appearance is beyond me. Look at the man. The moment he's onscreen the magic of Star Trek is gone. He's a caricature now. He was great as Kirk circa ST 1 to 6 (excl. 5) but that was a different person. And the fact he directed 5 just solidifies the fact that he lucked out with good directors (Meyers, Nimoy) and good scripts (that he wasn't involved with).
Nemesis was DRECK, Insurrection was MEDIOCRE ... by TheCap	Jan 18th, 2008 06:40:42 PM
... but if it's a freshly squeezed steaming pile of fetid excrement you want on your dunner plate, you have to go back to the feces that was STAR TREK V : OH GOD I'M GONNA VOMIT. Let it be written, so let it be done.
EVERYBODY: BRING LIGHT SABERS TO THE MOVIE by BringingSexyBack	Jan 18th, 2008 06:40:53 PM
Let's fuck with the mainstreamers.
Yeti...judging by the response... by conspiracy	Jan 18th, 2008 06:46:18 PM
that fans are giving to the leaked material. This thing might just go Direct to Video.
Re : gonzofreak by Real Deal	Jan 18th, 2008 06:48:12 PM
I want to see the franchise reborn. Just like last time. Just like they did with BSG. The only real problem I see with this is old timers ( and yes I'm and old timer since 1966 ) not being able to have an open mind and let something new and fresh come in. My mind is open and I'm willing to see what the new movie has got.
Maybe I am too young to appreciate the ORIGINAL Trek... by ccchhhrrriiisssm	Jan 18th, 2008 06:52:54 PM
...but to me, it reeks of cheesy "B" movie sci fi. Why all of this adoration for Roddenberry? From all that I have heard, he was generally hated in Hollywood. His "Trek" contributions were initial and then, uh, very limited. The most important figure since the films has been Leonard Nimoy. He has had more say into the story, direction and canon of Trek than Roddenberry EVER enjoyed. If Nimoy is placing his stamp of approval on this project, then I have a good feeling about this.
Bobby Fisher is dead by skywalkerfamily	Jan 18th, 2008 06:54:58 PM
the chess champion died a few hours ago.
CLOVERFIELD MONSTER IS HERE by BurgerTime	Jan 18th, 2008 06:55:25 PM
Take a look. Or don't if you want to avoid spoilers! http://tinyurl.com/2fxg5d
IGNORING 40-YEAR-OLD CANON!!!! by mpd1958	Jan 18th, 2008 06:55:25 PM
I cannot abide this absolute thumb-in-the-eye of well established Star Trek Canon. Someone needs to force the film-makers to at least read "The Making of Star Trek" by Stephen Whitfield and GENE RODENBERRY! It's only been around since 1968! It contains Rodenberry's "Star Trek Bible" for its series' writers, which says, "The unit components were built at the Star Fleet Division of what is still called the San Francisco Navy Yards,and the vehicle was assembled in space. The Enterprise is not designed to enter the atmosphere of a planet, and never lands on a planet surface." This is from the horses' mouth! It wasn't built at fucking Area 51, and it didn't fucking blast of from Earth! If they ignore this, they'll ignore anything!
Only 12 more months!!!!!! by SoylentMean	Jan 18th, 2008 06:56:37 PM
Maybe the Cloverfield monster will show up and eat some shit. I'm still not that happy about this "prequel" stuff. JJ the Jet Plane, prove me wrong!!!!!!
FACT: Star Trek owns your face. by dr sauch	Jan 18th, 2008 07:00:10 PM
I make no apologies about loving every Start Trek movie. Every goddamned one, including insurrection and nemesis. It is the single greatest body of popular science fiction to date. Star Wars is NOT science fiction, it's fantasy. So even though it's like comparing apples and oranges, ST is better than SW, and better than you, and this will be fantastic. JJ knows how to make a movie.
Bobby Fisher was the Cloverfield monster... by ccchhhrrriiisssm	Jan 18th, 2008 07:02:10 PM
...well, at least, he was an anti-Semite. But what has that got to do with Star Trek?
Bobby Fisher was a Romulan by skywalkerfamily	Jan 18th, 2008 07:03:16 PM
He died when his ship self destructed.
Perhaps that is what Cloverfield represents? by ccchhhrrriiisssm	Jan 18th, 2008 07:04:36 PM
The prejudices, biases and vicious hatred that tears a city (and a country) apart? Sort of like antisemitism and religious bigotry? Or maybe it was just a monster movie?
Nanosquid's pictures, damn I hope that one was fake by Hervoyel	Jan 18th, 2008 07:08:40 PM
Cause the st1.jpg picture you posted makes my fucking bowels clinch up. If that's the new Enterprise then they aren't even going to get me in the theater much less win me over. Too different, I don't like it even remotely.
Re : mpd1958 by Real Deal	Jan 18th, 2008 07:09:02 PM
I have a copy of the same book. The problem is that ST in that form has been done in triplicate and has painted itself into a corner story-wise. Just like with BSG it can be all new again and tell fresh stories. I firmly believe if Roddenberry were alive today he would want this. Have an open mind like you did when you watched it the first time.
Hervoyel... by ccchhhrrriiisssm	Jan 18th, 2008 07:13:23 PM
Don't fear: Those pics are NOT real.
BSG > Star Trek by Ashok0	Jan 18th, 2008 07:15:25 PM
Seriously... give us a BSG movie dangit!!!!! Heck Firefly, B5, or even Farscape were 100x better than any ST series.
Oops, Hervoyel... by ccchhhrrriiisssm	Jan 18th, 2008 07:17:36 PM
The st2.png pic is really from the trailer, but the first one is bogus. The st1 pic is from some concept fan art that circulated around the web a few months ago. It is pretty nice, but not at all real.
cool by Dr Uwe Boll	Jan 18th, 2008 07:18:23 PM
looking forward to this
Uhuras erotic dance.. by nolan bautista	Jan 18th, 2008 07:35:38 PM
..from "The Undiscovered Country" is a memory i can never shake off..
The erotic dance was in Trek 5 by skywalkerfamily	Jan 18th, 2008 07:41:28 PM
when they were trying to distract Sybok's guards.
Ash dude by cutest_of_borg	Jan 18th, 2008 07:42:23 PM
You must be out cho goddamn mind! I would bet a years pay that in 2040 NO ONE will be clamoring for a Battlebarge Galactica film or a Firefly film. Trek rules all, my friend.
Thats it skywalker.. by nolan bautista	Jan 18th, 2008 07:45:15 PM
..hows the family by the way?
They already did a Firefly movie by skywalkerfamily	Jan 18th, 2008 07:46:18 PM
It kinda bombed. Sorry about that.
Serenity is better then ST 1/5/7/8/9/10 all together by travis-dane	Jan 18th, 2008 07:53:44 PM
Damn tea drinking pussy Picard!
I Want to See How that Thing Gets Into Space by Queefer Bukkake	Jan 18th, 2008 07:54:58 PM
I have no problem with it being built on ground, I'd just like to see it become airborne. It certainly isn't designed to sit on terra firma, so I'm kind of curious.
Uh, sorry no. Even Trek 5 is better than by skywalkerfamily	Jan 18th, 2008 07:57:23 PM
Serenity. I was so bored watching Serenity while the other yukels around me were brainwashed by it.
The plot is still going to suck donkey balls by performingmonkey	Jan 18th, 2008 07:57:39 PM
This should definitely have been Nimoy's Spock remembering and recounting past events. But the fact that he goes back in time is in itself retarded, a device that should have been left behind forever afer Voyage Home
Few Movies are as bad as Trek V by Queefer Bukkake	Jan 18th, 2008 08:00:15 PM
Serenity was much better. There is room for both Firefly and Trek in my world. You can't really compare them because they are so different, but you certainly can express a preference. I like them both. But not Trek V. That was a travesty. I was embarrassed through the whole thing.
Uh oh, here come the Browncoats by MattmanReturns	Jan 18th, 2008 08:00:50 PM
All five of them. You guys are funny. "Star Wars and Star Trek sucks! Long live Joss Whedon!" Predictable.
And I used to like Firefly by MattmanReturns	Jan 18th, 2008 08:01:44 PM
But you asshole Browncoats killed that for me. Thanks.
whats a star trek. by ragingdrunklove	Jan 18th, 2008 08:01:55 PM
what the fuck are you guys all talking about.
Yeah, the Whedon fans are funny by skywalkerfamily	Jan 18th, 2008 08:02:20 PM
Keep plugging those "Buffy" comics.
I hate the Buffy comics by Queefer Bukkake	Jan 18th, 2008 08:03:40 PM
Please don't pigeonhole the Whedon fans.
Kirk meeting God(fake) was funny... by travis-dane	Jan 18th, 2008 08:08:27 PM
but the rest of the movie...gulp.
This looks like American Choppers by skywalkerfamily	Jan 18th, 2008 08:09:20 PM
That bearded guy is making the starship.
Jesse James should build it.And then race... by travis-dane	Jan 18th, 2008 08:11:21 PM
against the Falcon!
Real Deal's comments by mpd1958	Jan 18th, 2008 08:13:04 PM
Real Deal, I think one of the big problems of virtually every Trek movie after "Wrath of Khan" is that they were not true enough to TOS. The most courageous thing this movie could do is to take us back to the colors, styles, look and feel of TOS. I'm talking mini-skirts, heavy mascara, and beehive hairdos; I'm talking the ORIGINAL bridge of the Enterprise- as Scotty says in the Next Generation episode "Relics", "No bloody A, B, C, or D!" Face it- the appeal of Star Trek is its mythos, its history. The fans love it classic style, not the bastardized weak-sister form it's been in since The Next Generation aired. Give me the classic Grant Jeffries design for once on the big screen, and DON'T REWRITE HISTORY!
refit of enterprise by Staldo	Jan 18th, 2008 08:13:47 PM
Refitting the Enterprise for Kirk-did they install Quagmire-style hidden foldout beds all over the ship?
Making This Look Like TOS by Queefer Bukkake	Jan 18th, 2008 08:14:18 PM
Would be huge folly. HUGE. And stupid. STUPID.
His name was Matt Jefferies by skywalkerfamily	Jan 18th, 2008 08:15:36 PM
Are you people really Trek fans?
NImoy's voice bugged me by mayorofsimpleton	Jan 18th, 2008 08:19:22 PM
Don't know why but it really needs to be either new Kirk or Shatner saying that shit.
No. by travis-dane	Jan 18th, 2008 08:20:58 PM
I just like the trilogy and parts of 6.But you dont were talking to me I think.
Why isn't anyone wearing Starfleet suits by skywalkerfamily	Jan 18th, 2008 08:22:23 PM
building the ship? Does Starfleet hire out to independent contractors?
meeting god by Staldo	Jan 18th, 2008 08:23:31 PM
The only good part of Final Frontier was meeting god. McCoy is all irrational and religious so he plays right into floating head alien's hands, Spock is logical and controlled and shit and Kirk doesn't give a rat's ass. And I would gladly bring a lightsaber to the premier of this thing to fuck with people if I knew others were joining me. Or how about a borg/vader hybrid costume?
uhuras erotic dance by trekker rc	Jan 18th, 2008 08:23:42 PM
Thanks for bringing that image back to my mind, I thought I was finally done with the nightmares. I saw the teaser at the theater today, it isn't really clear that they are on a planet surface. It could be inside a big space dock. And no it isn't really important if it was built on earth or in space. The problem is if it is earth they are ignoring the fans. Sticking to established ST canon is that hard but ignoring it like Enterprise did just shows lazy writing and producers with no real love of the show.
Why had the Enterprise a kitchen in part 6? by travis-dane	Jan 18th, 2008 08:24:14 PM
I would like to know that.
Canon Never Mentioned E was Built in Space by Queefer Bukkake	Jan 18th, 2008 08:27:01 PM
Not that I've seen. Please quote it for me, and note the source so that I may be better informed.
You're correct, Skywalkerfamily by mpd1958	Jan 18th, 2008 08:28:47 PM
Of course it was Matt Jeffries; I'm just tired this evening. Why would it be stupid to give the fans-the true middle-aged original series fans- something they've always wanted and never had? No one has ever given us what we consider "true" Star Trek on the big screen. That was part of the dissapointment we had with Star Trek- the Motion Picture when it came out. We could hardly recognize it!
uhuras erotic typo by trekker rc	Jan 18th, 2008 08:29:26 PM
meant to say "isn't that hard but..." on last sentence.
1997: Greedo Shoots First... by Kid Z	Jan 18th, 2008 08:31:47 PM

Re : mpd1958 by Real Deal	Jan 18th, 2008 08:31:50 PM
Well. I feel just the oposite. I feel that during and after " The Wraith Of Khan " it was more like the TV series than ever. However it couldn't have been just like the old series because the characters ( along with the actors ) were older. And one thing I can tell you about being older ( I'm 54 now ) is that things aren't exactly the same. Time marches on. As for the rest. Sorry about you being stuck. But this sort of thing came up when they reimagined BSG. They happened to get past that and made a very good show despite the stuck in their ways old fans. In this universe there's room for both. The old show isn't going anywhere it's just been told in that style to death. Time to do a different take. Have an open mind. That's the way I picture most ST fans.
...= 2008: Enterprise Built on Earth by Kid Z	Jan 18th, 2008 08:32:42 PM

queffer bukkake by trekker rc	Jan 18th, 2008 08:33:42 PM
it isn't exactly cannon but I believe that that bronze plague on the bridge says it was built in space dock.
I think only the senior staff used the kitchen by skywalkerfamily	Jan 18th, 2008 08:33:48 PM
The kitchen was only used for special functions like banquets with alien dignitaries, etc, otherwise the senior staff used it. Archer had a personal Chef on his ship. The lower decks crew members only used the replicators.
It's pretty obvious "Why had the Enerprise a kitchen". by Shermdawg	Jan 18th, 2008 08:34:01 PM
For the mess hall, and for any receptions the crew might schedule with another ship/race/whatever. (Which I believe was shown in V & VI.)
Built on Earth, BUT Assembled in Space by Seacor	Jan 18th, 2008 08:36:14 PM
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wik i/USS_Enterprise_%28NCC-1701%2 9 "In the early to mid-23rd century, at least twelve heavy cruiser-type starships, the Constitution-class, were commissioned by the Federation Starfleet. The vessel registered NCC-1701, which was constructed in San Francisco and launched in 2245, was christened the Enterprise. Larry Marvick was one of the designers of the Enterprise. (TOS: "Tomorrow is Yesterday", "Is There in Truth No Beauty?") According to The Making of Star Trek, the Enterprise was built on Earth but assembled in space..."
by mpd1958	Jan 18th, 2008 08:37:29 PM
By the way, the whole concept of a spacecraft that was never meant or designed to land on a planet's surface was a fairly new one when Star Trek TOS came out. It was a concept later used in the design of the "Discovery" in 2001, and later by Star Wars' designs for a lot of its ships, including Imperial Star Destroyers and Rebel Blockade Runners. They are two large to land on a planet, and are not aerodynamic. NONE of the forms of Enterprise could land on earth, although the saucer sections could detach and land in an emergency.
Re : mpd1958 by Real Deal	Jan 18th, 2008 08:37:41 PM
And another thing. TOS was built around the current events of the late 60's. In order to be as ground breaking as that show was they have to do some adjusting to make it fit the 21rst century. We don't just have the Russians ( Klingons ) and the Chinese ( the Romulans ). And the whole focus of current events is different. In order to be relevant like the old series some changes have to be made. This is what made the old show great.
kitchen by trekker rc	Jan 18th, 2008 08:38:08 PM
on an episode of TOS it showed a kitchen being used for Thanksgiving. (I think it was "Charlie X")
The bigger question is why the kitchen by skywalkerfamily	Jan 18th, 2008 08:41:12 PM
had a locker full pf phasers. Is the kitchen really the first place that comes under attack in a crisis?
60's by trekker rc	Jan 18th, 2008 08:42:20 PM
I know they can't go back but retro-modern sets and costumes would be cool. Mini-skirts are a must!
assembled vs. built by Staldo	Jan 18th, 2008 08:43:18 PM
I don't get this argument about where the damn ship was/should be built. My Legos were presumably created in China somewhere, and then assembled by me into a castle. Who built the castle? the plastic mold operators in China who created the components, or me? So the thing was "built" in space. There could be a dude arc welding a component, or even assisting with a "test assembly" on earth to make sure all the life support components worked before disassembly Here's a solution:each component individually transforms into a giant robot lion, which then jets into space under its own power, and combines with the other lions to form the enterprise, with Kirk yelling out the components as they are formed. Everybody happy? thought so.
bacci40 by Dr Uwe Boll	Jan 18th, 2008 08:45:39 PM
Pertinent points all. Can't really disagree with your statements but I'm still hyped. It feels good to get behind a Trek film again (the last couple of years and several of the offshoot shows - I just ignored them). I'd be only too glad to see Star Trek become an event for more than the in-crowd (and having said that - let me say that I care that they're building the bloody Enterprise on land - WTF? - I'm hoping this is a Trailer-move designed to avoid confusion amongst newbs "why are they building it in space, do they build spaceships in space - huh - I am confused?" etc). Anyhoo, come opening day I'll be there and I'll be willing to give the new Trek a good shot, if Abrams f**ks up I'll bitch and moan with the best of us but I'll still continue to hope that someone picks up the Trek mantle and keeps it running because it's just too good a concept to keep down. See y'all on Opening Day.
Real Deal's comments by mpd1958	Jan 18th, 2008 08:46:40 PM
Real Deal, are you telling me that it wouldn't send goosegumps down your spine to see a realistically rendered version of TOS, with the same devices and spacecraft rendered on the big screen in their beloved forms? By the way, I think the original Battlestar Galactica was WAY cooler than the current incarnation. I miss those chrome Cylons!
Where the hell is Scotty?! by skywalkerfamily	Jan 18th, 2008 08:47:54 PM
Shouldn't be be looking over the ptoceedings?
By the Way... by mpd1958	Jan 18th, 2008 08:51:14 PM
Hasn't that 60's look and design for the Original Series been "reaffirmed" as canon by episodes of Next Generation (Relica) and Deep Space Nine (Trial and Tribbelations)? Surely they can't ignore that as well?
If you want a cool sixties look in modern Trek by skywalkerfamily	Jan 18th, 2008 08:52:18 PM
watch the two part Enterprise episode "In a Mirror Darkly". Archer even wears a green Kirk style shirt.
You're right, Skywalkerfamily by mpd1958	Jan 18th, 2008 08:54:51 PM
As recently as the series "Enterprise", they have bolstered the veracity of the original series uniforms and look.
Re : mpd1958 by Real Deal	Jan 18th, 2008 08:55:35 PM
Well see that's where we differ. I've already seen what they could do with the old form. They've been redoing the FX on the old show to correct what looks so bad now it detracts from the rest of the show. And doing a damn good job of it to! However trying to copy what's come before in a bigger newer form isn't original. It's already been done. Also there's the reasons I've already listed. TOS was a product of it's time. Closely locked into current events. Even that book you sited states that again and again. Time for a product of these times. And as much as I have a nostalgic fondness for the old Battlestar Galatica it's really pale in comaparison to the types of stories ( and FX ) they've been able to do in the reimagined version.
nolan bautista, you may have loved the dance by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 18th, 2008 09:00:04 PM
but that was from Star Trek V,Final Frontier. Movie stunk, but you gotta love the line by Kirk "Uh excuse me,why does God need a spaceship."
FUCK YOUR CANON! by Queefer Bukkake	Jan 18th, 2008 09:07:33 PM
The books, the movies, the various TV shows all contradict each other! FUCK YOUR STUPID FUCKING CANON! There's no such thing in Star Trek! It's a fucking TV show with occasional movies, not a Goddamned New Fucking Testament.
I Meant to say ASS-FUCK YOUR CANON! by Queefer Bukkake	Jan 18th, 2008 09:08:26 PM
Sorry about that.
I wouldn't want to ass fuck a canon by skywalkerfamily	Jan 18th, 2008 09:09:32 PM
that would hurt.
Hey Bukkake... by mpd1958	Jan 18th, 2008 09:10:01 PM
Are you sure you've taken your meds today?
Nah, I flushed my meds by Queefer Bukkake	Jan 18th, 2008 09:11:05 PM
Don't need them. I like this energy I feel. I like the voices...
Hey Bukkake... by mpd1958	Jan 18th, 2008 09:13:19 PM
Just checking...I'm here for you, guy...if you need to talk
by BonerDonor	Jan 18th, 2008 09:18:52 PM

Landing absolutely possible!!! by BetaSword	Jan 18th, 2008 09:23:42 PM
Oh, man, don't you guys get it? OK, here's reasoning why the Enterprise is easily capable to land: AG, short for AntiGravity. Well as we all know, every StarTrek's Enterprises is able to have Gravitation(that's the reason, why all the Characters don't fly through the Ship) and if you use it countered(upside-down), it should also be able to lift a ship, or to decrease it's wheight to a point, where even the manoeuvring-Thrusters should be enough to lift the ship. As it goes for Warping in an Athmosphere, well, it might damage it, so it's only used in emergency-situations, i think. As far as i know, it was prohibited in B5 to use the Hyperdrive in an Athmosphere, as it might ignite it.

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