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IT'S A FAKE.
by robogeek.com
Jan 11th, 2008
02:36:11 PM
Dude, don't you read TrekMovie.com? (And can't you just, you know, tell?)
Nice
by Vamp-AICNchat
Jan 11th, 2008
02:39:17 PM
2nd?
It's more an announcement than a teaser.
by DerLanghaarige
Jan 11th, 2008
02:40:18 PM
There is seriously nothing teasing in it.
LAME
by zool43
Jan 11th, 2008
02:42:03 PM
Wast of my fucking tume.
Fourth
by dogstar69
Jan 11th, 2008
02:42:53 PM
Penis
by syn_flood
Jan 11th, 2008
02:43:10 PM
I like it... but not as much as the *accurate* report on this fake teaser over at Joblo.com
FAKE FAKE FAKE
by JackIsLost
Jan 11th, 2008
02:43:50 PM
DUH!
Did CHUD mark this as fake?
by Lost Skeleton
Jan 11th, 2008
02:44:22 PM
I think this is the fake trailer Nick was screaming about right?
Do we get to see the monster?
by tonagan
Jan 11th, 2008
02:44:50 PM
And are there little monsters (not to be confused with the Fred Savage/Howie Mandel film)?
Wow, aintitcool has their own time machine...
by Truecoat
Jan 11th, 2008
02:45:29 PM
They can go back in time and view fake trailers thinking they're still real!
I've never looked forward to a STAR TREK film before...
by Vamp-AICNchat
Jan 11th, 2008
02:46:22 PM
...but I cannot wait to see this, although, I think the casting of Pegg is more a gimmick more than anything.
Meh.
by Darth Sticky
Jan 11th, 2008
02:49:10 PM
I'm finding it just about impossible to get excited about this.
And Nimoys voice is from Star Trek II
by Lost Skeleton
Jan 11th, 2008
02:49:17 PM
damn Harry...a little fact checking
ZZZZZZZ...Boring,where's the fat black tranny?
by rectalscan
Jan 11th, 2008
02:49:57 PM
Weeza gotsa haves ussa black folk en hear!
With Tom Cruise as Charlie X
by tonagan
Jan 11th, 2008
02:51:18 PM
and Katie Holmes as Spock's Beard.
And Nimoys voice is from Star Trek II
by Lost Skeleton
Jan 11th, 2008
02:51:25 PM
damn Harry...a little fact checking
I've never looked forward to a STAR TREK film before...
by Vamp-AICNchat
Jan 11th, 2008
02:51:36 PM
...but I cannot wait to see this, although, I think the casting of Pegg is more a gimmick more than anything.
Debunked.
by 7pointedstar
Jan 11th, 2008
02:52:22 PM
The real teaser is supposed to be coming out near the end of January. This is just a well-made fan trailer. Very well-made. But still fake.
whatever
by reckni
Jan 11th, 2008
02:52:27 PM
Big deal, this movie will blow. Anyone wanna bet?
Stamped as fake
by Obi-Have
Jan 11th, 2008
02:54:32 PM
Damn people! Don't ya guys read trekmovie.com?!? Oh, and love the trailer, although it's fake as hell. Brings back memories from '82. Hmmm...
The guy who made it even fessed up
by zacdilone
Jan 11th, 2008
02:55:05 PM
Geez...not good.
And thus, AICN hits a new low...
by emp
Jan 11th, 2008
02:55:15 PM
Harry fooled by Star Trek fan art.

But I'm not complaining. Soon we can read more cool answers from Sly, like "The spilling of mayo on Sylvester Stallone by the coward Richard Gere".

The guy who made it even fessed up
by zacdilone
Jan 11th, 2008
02:59:49 PM
Geez...not good.
IN SEARCH OF....
by captain_kirk
Jan 11th, 2008
03:00:29 PM
A BETTER VOICE OVER. Seriously, Nimoy is the wrong person for a VO. It comes off like planetarium/museum ride-type stuff, and is totally wrong for his character. Spock's voice makes more obvious Kirk's absence.
Overlong, boring, unimaginative...
by IAmJack'sUserID
Jan 11th, 2008
03:01:03 PM
So obviously fake!
Terrible
by Heckles
Jan 11th, 2008
03:02:36 PM
Not only is this a fake, but it started circling the net days ago. Now AICN is even late on the bullshit. When it wasn't posted here I actually gave the site props.
OMG! That was Amazing...
by Orionsangels
Jan 11th, 2008
03:04:54 PM
ly bad!
Harry says it is fake in the headline and intro
by SkeletonParty
Jan 11th, 2008
03:05:11 PM
please everyone just lighten up.
What did Harry say about it before he realized it was a fake?
by IAmJack'sUserID
Jan 11th, 2008
03:06:20 PM
I'd like to read it!
NOT STAR TREK II VO
by captain_kirk
Jan 11th, 2008
03:15:56 PM
Because, duh, he says --"no one has gone before"
So now you admit it's fake?
by DerLanghaarige
Jan 11th, 2008
03:24:03 PM
This is probably the funniest that one of you did since "Aquaf@g" (although not as funny as).
FAKE THOUGH IT MAY BE
by mukhtabi
Jan 11th, 2008
03:24:39 PM
It holds all the promise and brilliance a star trek teaser SHOULD HAVE. Lord I hope this film is a step up from military Trek!
I don't care if it's fake because
by cornponious
Jan 11th, 2008
03:27:48 PM
it still makes my penis grow.
SkeletonParty...
by 7pointedstar
Jan 11th, 2008
03:28:41 PM
The headline was changed after about a dozen talkback posts telling Harry it was fake. Hence the quick "btw its fake" thrown in at the end of the article.
Didn't Harry see the real teaser with Cloverfield????
by picardsucks
Jan 11th, 2008
03:30:36 PM
Well...... we're waiting.....
AICN: Now posting FAKE trailers... intentionally!
by Nosferatu Jones
Jan 11th, 2008
03:37:06 PM
I guess there's more to the Bottom of the Barrel of movie news than just "It was awesome!" CLOVERFIELD reviews...

A new low. Congratulations. Who the hell is running the show over there???

AICN: Now posting FAKE trailers... intentionally!
by Nosferatu Jones
Jan 11th, 2008
03:38:53 PM
I guess there's more to the Bottom of the Barrel of movie news than just "It was awesome!" CLOVERFIELD reviews...

A new low. Congratulations. Who the hell is running the show over there???

AICN: Now posting FAKE trailers... intentionally!
by Nosferatu Jones
Jan 11th, 2008
03:41:17 PM
I guess there's more to the Bottom of the Barrel of movie news than just "It was awesome!" CLOVERFIELD reviews...

A new low. Congratulations. Who the hell is running the show over there???

Nosfertau Jones now posting 3 times... unintentionally!
by Nosferatu Jones
Jan 11th, 2008
03:42:27 PM
(Sorry 'bout that one.)
The real trailer won't look like this...
by Desmondo
Jan 11th, 2008
03:42:58 PM
It will be cut like an Evan Almighty trailer with plenty of one-liners, a slow motion dodgeball sequence involving Tribbles, and a cameo by Will Ferell as a camp Klingon. It will finish with an extended gag where Pegg and Cho keep replicating beer, giggling and flirting with the computer.
so it's fake, I like it!
by br1947
Jan 11th, 2008
03:44:05 PM
Let's just hope the real movie doesn't suck
Harry, Did you see the REAL trailer at Cloverfield?
by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz
Jan 11th, 2008
03:45:17 PM
If so what did you think?

I've only asked you three times now lol.
Desmondo, I fear you are correct!
by br1947
Jan 11th, 2008
03:45:35 PM
But I really, really hope you're wrong :-)
I don't care that it's fake. It's great fanboy love!
by odysseus
Jan 11th, 2008
03:53:52 PM
Well done, whoever-has-so-much-time-on-th eir-hands-to-entertain-us.
anyone else say fake yet?
by Datascream
Jan 11th, 2008
04:01:08 PM
I'm always so late to these things :(
That's fake as a rake!
by ganymede3010
Jan 11th, 2008
04:05:08 PM
And on top of that cheesy.
That's fake as a rake!
by ganymede3010
Jan 11th, 2008
04:07:40 PM
And on top of that cheesy.
That is not the real teaser.
by halsolo
Jan 11th, 2008
04:20:39 PM
Abrams+Godzilla+Alien+Blair Witch= derivative Cloverfield
by conspiracy
Jan 11th, 2008
04:21:11 PM
Abrams + Star Trek + Cast of the OC + Orci= SHIT
Nemoy's voice makes me want to clear my throat
by aceattorney
Jan 11th, 2008
04:40:09 PM
Ahem.
Can't wait to see this....
by 69DUDE
Jan 11th, 2008
04:42:10 PM
on Paramount Blu-Ray Disc!!!! ;-)
So if it's fake...
by greenstyle92
Jan 11th, 2008
04:43:09 PM
why post a story about it Harry? why? what's your angle?
bad enough to be real JarJar
by kabong
Jan 11th, 2008
04:43:24 PM
why did anyone bother to make it
Can't wait to see this....
by 69DUDE
Jan 11th, 2008
04:48:39 PM
on Paramount Blu-Ray Disc!!!! ;-)
bad enough to be real JarJar
by kabong
Jan 11th, 2008
04:48:39 PM
why did anyone bother to make it
"BTW - It's Fake" - AICN Douchebags...
by randie1313
Jan 11th, 2008
04:51:36 PM
...still calling it "JJ's Star Trek Fake Trailer" on the front page, ain't ya? You might want to take JJ off there since he didn't have anything to do with it. BTW - The whole rest of the Internet has been onto this, figured out it was fake and posted the details days ago. And you retarded cunts want us to think you've got the skinny on the script that no one else can get near? Ijits.
Of course its FAKE!!! But it is on point...
by conspiracy
Jan 11th, 2008
05:11:10 PM
and honestly, any chance to pile on JJs Pile of reboosted "Trek: The OC Years" shit is good enough for me...
conspiracy, that's 'cause...
by randie1313
Jan 11th, 2008
05:12:13 PM
...you're an idiot.
So Harry edited the title and article
by emp
Jan 11th, 2008
05:24:39 PM
after he realized it was fake, without admitting that he fucked up? What is this shit? I bet if we go back and look at the "Bruce will answer all your questions" articles, they've been changed to "Bruce will mysteriously infiltrate the talkbacks and answer a question or two, before realizing that he can't actually stand for the sucky movie he claims is as good or better than the first, and then vanish."
randie1313..whats this about a script no one can get near?
by conspiracy
Jan 11th, 2008
05:56:53 PM
Considering that hack Orci is writing/wrote it, it isn't that they CAN'T get near it, its that they DON'T WANT TO.
The fanstuff is usually better than the movie
by Pipple
Jan 11th, 2008
06:15:09 PM
I saw a transformers intro just like this once that totally kicks the movie's ass, too bad that guy's passion wasn't seen by the money hungry bay crew. This flick seems like it'll be the same, just a cash grab with lots of cool cgi thouh leonard's involvement could mean otherwise... sort of forgot he's in this.
great job!
by BUCK.STARBLASTER
Jan 11th, 2008
06:22:16 PM
maybe that guy should have directed the movie.
nimoys voice makes me think of loose denture click.
by dr.bulber
Jan 11th, 2008
06:35:09 PM
and loose denture click makes me think of old person denture breath. oh god this film is really gonna suck.
Yeah, It's Fake - But it's a Damn Good One...
by Read and Shut Up
Jan 11th, 2008
06:40:13 PM
That was sweet
by kafka07
Jan 11th, 2008
06:59:19 PM
That fucking gave me goosebumps, and I ain't even a trekkie.
yes, a fake pieced from the movie series..
by red1701
Jan 11th, 2008
07:13:37 PM
the voiceover is from the end of Star Trek III...the only time nimoy did the voiceover -the opening music is from "first contact" (can tell by the part in the opening credits that the letters turn "borg".) -the accompanying music is from the opening of "generations" with that bottle of champagne floating toward ncc-1701-b. my god i know too much crap about S.T.
correction to my first post...
by red1701
Jan 11th, 2008
07:15:29 PM
i correct myself...it is the end voiceover from part II. (geek status intact)
Lame, conspiracy, lame...
by randie1313
Jan 11th, 2008
07:20:02 PM
...It just kills you that other people are successful while you sit in your filthy corner angry that you have no skills and will never be anyone.
fake? noooooooo. really? are you sure
by Mysterious Yobo
Jan 11th, 2008
07:33:13 PM
please, dont insult my negligible intelligence. its not a damn good fake, its a fake fake fake fake fake fanboy fake. get a life if you think thats real.
WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT STAR TREK!!!
by dundundles
Jan 11th, 2008
08:34:56 PM
WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT STAR TREK!!!
Harry you TOOL! Oh I mean Fool! No wait Tool might be right when
by EvilDoeR
Jan 11th, 2008
08:38:56 PM
JJ will fuck up Star Trek without THE SHATNER in it! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO JJ for not asking the SHAT to take one last trek with his pal Spock.. er Leonard Nimoy! Either way I'm not really looking foward to going backwards... Didn't work for Star Wars, and I think it will fail here. They should move foward into future Trek crews. How about a crew where Captain Benjamin Sisko from DS9 is the Captain? Now there is an Idea I can get behind! Always wanted to see more of Odo & Quark myself especially on the big screen!
Real trailer has zero footage, zero dialogue
by performingmonkey
Jan 11th, 2008
09:03:11 PM
There is a moving starfield (familiar music over this, NOT the same as the fake trailer) it slowly pans down to something that looks similar to classic Trek starbases (CG), we see a shadow on the side of the base growing bigger until it's obviously the silhouette of the Enterprise, THEN the beginning of the classic Trek theme is heard before black then the blue/gold symbol logo.
Christ!
by supersize
Jan 11th, 2008
09:18:08 PM
As if you fucks have never been duped before bunch of smug assholes
This years Little Miss
by Trik_Ster
Jan 11th, 2008
09:19:55 PM
Area 51
If I saw that before Cloverfield...
by Eaglet1138
Jan 11th, 2008
09:30:36 PM
...I'd be giving it a standing O. Great job, fake trailer guys. I only hope the real teaser lives up to it.
dundundles, who gives a shit about trolls?
by ATARI
Jan 11th, 2008
09:57:25 PM
AND LEARN TO TURN CAPS OFF!!!
now that was a complete waste
by ZO
Jan 11th, 2008
10:01:15 PM
of my time and whoever made its time talk about boring
Can't wait for the real one.
by The Outlander
Jan 11th, 2008
10:02:05 PM
This one looks kind of amateurish, but for a fake it's okay.
HAS ANYONE MENTIONED THAT IT'S FAKE?
by BringingSexyBack
Jan 11th, 2008
10:05:57 PM
It was pretty good though, where'd he get that shot of the Enterprise and shuttle? They should've let him direct the movie.
It's always funny when they say INTERNETS!
by JimCurry
Jan 11th, 2008
10:28:12 PM
Really, hasn't gotten old at all...
AT LEAST THE FAKE TEASER AUTHOR KNOWS THE ENTERPRISE
by BringingSexyBack
Jan 11th, 2008
10:38:16 PM
is built in space, not at Area 51. Hey Bob Orci, you never did give me a low-five, you left me hanging.

Now you gonna pay sucka.

randie1313...Orci is that you?! Hows that strike going?
by conspiracy
Jan 11th, 2008
10:40:05 PM
Or are you just one of the 3 Orci Cock puppets haunting this site who think Transformers was fucking film magic?
randie1313...Orci is that you?! Hows that strike going?
by conspiracy
Jan 11th, 2008
10:48:26 PM
Or are you just one of the 3 Orci Cock puppets haunting this site who think Transformers was fucking film magic?
"INTERNETS" IS FUNNY WHEN DUBYA SAYS IT
by BringingSexyBack
Jan 11th, 2008
10:54:24 PM
Because he means it ...
randie1313...Orci is that you?! Hows that strike going?
by conspiracy
Jan 11th, 2008
11:01:27 PM
Or are you just one of the 3 Orci Cock puppets haunting this site who think Transformers was fucking film magic?
randie1313...Orci is that you?! Hows that strike going?
by conspiracy
Jan 11th, 2008
11:05:43 PM
Or are you just one of the 3 Orci Cock puppets haunting this site who think Transformers was fucking film magic?
Great Fake
by kirttrik
Jan 11th, 2008
11:50:54 PM
If it had full production quality and tweaked a bit, it would be a legendary teaser.
randie1313...Orci is that you?! Hows that strike going?
by conspiracy
Jan 11th, 2008
11:50:57 PM
Or are you just one of the 3 Orci Cock puppets haunting this site who think Transformers was fucking film magic?
Great Fake
by kirttrik
Jan 11th, 2008
11:54:44 PM
If it had full production quality and tweaked a bit, it would be a legendary teaser.
Great Fake
by kirttrik
Jan 11th, 2008
11:54:45 PM
If it had full production quality and tweaked a bit, it would be a legendary teaser.
An EXCELLENT fake trailer, but I bet for the movie...
by DarkHawke
Jan 12th, 2008
12:47:19 AM
...they puss out on "where no man has gone before," and substitute "where no ONE has gone before." For in the depths of Holly-weird, there is neither poetry nor gusto, only literal-minded political correctness.

Whatta ya bet me, in fact, that the entire SCRIPT pusses out in the same way as Superman Returns? Y'know, a couple of n00b tools hit the jackpot and get handed the next installment of an entertainment franchise that has gone beyond itself into the realm of myth, yet either they don't have the feel for what made Star Trek what it was or they don't have the stones to write it like it should be. So instead of a balls-out, thrilling revivification of a franchise that's become moribund BECAUSE OF stale, safe, P.C. writing, we get more of the same, which though serviceable with the kind of special effects brought to bear, ends up being *deeply* unsatisfying and leaves Star Trek as betwixt and between as it was before. I'd REALLY love to be wrong about this theory, but I've got a very bad feeling that I'm dead on.

Sadly I think performingmonkey is right
by reflecto
Jan 12th, 2008
12:56:26 AM
And I will know very shortly.
Forget about the fake trailers, Stephen Chow's
by MoviePirate
Jan 12th, 2008
01:36:45 AM
new CJ7 is now online and you will see the Alien http://youtube.com/watch?v=FKp eHYqXW5Q&feature=related
puppets? and Darkhawke
by Boborci
Jan 12th, 2008
01:42:00 AM
No puppets of mine on this board. I'm the only one one not in disguise. What possible use have I for puppets? Well. My Mom may be lurking, but I told her never to defend me. And Darkhawke: you have every reason to be fearful of us jackpot lotto winning noob tools, but I can also say with equal conviction that I you will find very little evidence of "pussing out" when all is said and done. You may still hate it, but it won't be from us not grabbing the bull square by the horns. And since the line "no one" and "no man" have not been recorded yet, your preference is noted (which is neither a confirmation nor a denial that we will use the famous phrase) . Come to think of it, we might want it to be something more catchy -- in the style of Melrose Place or the O.C........... Kidding. Relax. We didn't get called to the Bridge just to go awol when the Kobayahsi Maru is getting tough, when the shit's hitting the main deflector dish. We're not punting or bunting or folding. We're swinging for the trees, going for a hail mary on fourth down with only one inning left or half or quarter or whatever they're called -- and we're praying to Q that our aim is true, by lord.......... Mom, if you're still here, can you help me come up with some more inspirational sports metaphors?
Aint it Youtube!
by skywalkerfamily
Jan 12th, 2008
02:15:49 AM
Dude! There's this place called Youtube! It has a ton of fake stuff!
It's a fake!
by Shagnking
Jan 12th, 2008
02:34:26 AM
See, you can tell. By the markings.
You know, a real news site...
by Bill Clay
Jan 12th, 2008
02:36:00 AM
...would have just pulled the article once they found out it was fake. Insead of changing the headline and pretending that they knew all along. Amateur hour.
well then bill clay
by slappy jones
Jan 12th, 2008
02:40:16 AM
why don't you fuck off to one them then huh?
boborci
by Obi-Have
Jan 12th, 2008
03:03:43 AM
You crack me up. And oh, Nimoy for Galvatron!!
First Contact music then Generations.
by iamnicksaicnsn
Jan 12th, 2008
03:27:08 AM
BAM. Best ST movie music ever.
smells like
by mattforce7
Jan 12th, 2008
05:05:19 AM
taters...spaaACE taters
MoviePirate
by drave117
Jan 12th, 2008
05:40:49 AM
Holy crap! That looks freakin' SWEET! I loves me some Stephen Chow. That man is the king of awesome movie cheese.
It only makes sense to build it is space..Duh
by Supermans
Jan 12th, 2008
06:12:53 AM
It only makes sense to build it is space..Duh
i dont get why so many people are complaining...
by Obscura
Jan 12th, 2008
06:31:45 AM
i look toward harry and the aint it cool team to tell me about things ill be intrested in. im intrested in this, im glad ive seen it, so what if its not official? The job of this site isnt to only bring you officially released stuff, its a movie site for and about people who love movies.Seeing this kind of stuff on here is entirely valid.
Bad even for a fan made trailer ...
by oatmeal2348
Jan 12th, 2008
07:24:44 AM
If you're going to fake a trailer at least give us a of something that we are already expecting (like the gold/blue background behind the logo). The worst offense is that this is just straight up boring! The best fan made trailer ever was the one for SW:AOTC which used clips of Hayden and Natalie randomly turning their heads from some of their other movies.
I forgot the word 'glimpse' ...
by oatmeal2348
Jan 12th, 2008
07:25:34 AM
in that previous post: If you're going to fake a trailer at least give us a glimpse of something that we are already expecting (like the gold/blue background behind the logo).
Planty McPLant
by Stupendous Man
Jan 12th, 2008
07:34:47 AM
strikes agen
Now that was
by D o o d
Jan 12th, 2008
07:45:02 AM
complete bollox..! in a testicle kinda way..!
Fake or not, it was cool for a teaser trailer
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
Jan 12th, 2008
08:04:11 AM
They guy who faked this should make teaser trailers for a living.
IT'S A FAKE!!!!
by BringingSexyBack
Jan 12th, 2008
08:27:33 AM
You can see the strings.
IT'S A FAKE!!!!
by BringingSexyBack
Jan 12th, 2008
08:31:39 AM
You can see the strings.
HEY I DOUBLE-POSTED
by BringingSexyBack
Jan 12th, 2008
08:33:24 AM
Love it when that happens.
Berman and Braga ruined it
by geodesigns
Jan 12th, 2008
09:04:48 AM
And even Gene R, to a sense, by doing away with TOS cast. While I appreciate many memorable Trek characters from all incarnations, TOS continuity should have never been shelved in place of NextGen, DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise. At least with this new story we're finally getting a Goddamned TOS story. JJ and Shat: talk to each other-- old Kirk needs a cameo!!!!!!!!
INTERNETS...
by DoctorWho?
Jan 12th, 2008
09:39:31 AM
I remember when W said that...I knew that would live on forever!
And even lamer, conspiracy...
by randie1313
Jan 12th, 2008
10:02:40 AM
...you've got nothing. You lose.
Looks like the opening for The Next Generation, but...
by rbatty024
Jan 12th, 2008
10:15:42 AM
with a scene from one of the earlier original Trek movies thrown in at the end. It's nothing that special. If someone made the whole thing on their computer I will give them props for time and energy. I just wish it was more original.
Msg. to Borky (get it? B. Orci?)
by TheJake
Jan 12th, 2008
10:48:44 AM
When writing for franchises that have years and years of canon, do you purposely piss on it or is it unintentional dribble on the toilet seat? Do you guys sit around drinking mojitos and say things like: "Oh man you know what would really piss off those lame-ass fanboys?! Let's make Optimus Prime a pink bicycle and Spock is from really from New Jersey!" I'm just curious.
Not bad...
by Kampbell-Kid
Jan 12th, 2008
12:23:04 PM
All though the sense of 'dead air' between the end of the voice over and seeing the ship felt awkward, not bad though.
ho hum
by BongoBox
Jan 12th, 2008
12:26:08 PM
that was weak.
It's ok for fan work
by veritasses
Jan 12th, 2008
12:39:59 PM
Spock's speech, while classic and cool as heck is inappropriate and wrong (and not just because it's from Khan). It's not Spock's film so he shouldn't be narrating. And "these are the continuing voyages" and "their on going mission" bits are clearly wrong. The plain, bare, dull, non-animated planets flying by gets repetitive. If they were doing the old "whizzing through space" shtick then different celestial bodies would've been far better. Plus the paths and speed which the planets take is unimaginative which reinforces the repetitive feel. I'm guessing they took those shots from a screensaver or something. The shot of the Enterprise is nice but way too short considering they really didn't show us anything up until that moment. The viewer needs to be rewarded with something more then that. Plus the music crescendoing is a bit much esp since it's done two more times immediately after with the text and logo. The font used for the text is nice and classic, but the lighting and textures used could use several more edits. The text flying is corny. A fade might've been better. Could've held a few seconds longer on the logo/date. Again though, a good effort for fan work probably with no budget and an iMac.
Star Trek: DEAD ON ARRIVAL...Now with FAKE Trailers!
by uss cygnus
Jan 12th, 2008
01:01:39 PM
Posting identified fake trailers....knowing what they are to begin with. I'm glad I don't have to pay for the bandwidth. This film and the entire franchise is DEAD ON ARRIVAL. All you needed to hear was: "Time Travel" to know that it's all over.
You're question was...
by Boborci
Jan 12th, 2008
01:43:59 PM
"When writing for franchises that have years and years of canon, do you purposely piss on it or is it unintentional dribble on the toilet seat? Do you guys sit around drinking mojitos and say things like: "Oh man you know what would really piss off those lame-ass fanboys?! Let's make Optimus Prime a pink bicycle and Spock is from really from New Jersey!" I'm just curious." Funny because Nimoy asked us the same question, which was interesting because I thought Spock was from New Jersey, so it was great to start getting the real story from the man himself..... but seriously, to answer your question, I'll quote a little piece from the NY Times: “Alex and Bob are both geeks and nongeeks at the same time,” said Damon Lindelof, a creator of the television series “Lost,” and a producer on the “Star Trek” prequel. “They can have a tremendous amount of respect for the source material, but they know that a studio is bringing them in because they can make it understandable to an audience that has no comprehension of that source material whatsoever. In the case of “Star Trek,” Mr. Lindelof said, the screenplay was well served by the push and pull between Mr. Orci, a die-hard fan of the original television show, movies and the syndicated spinoff “Star Trek: The Next Generation,” and Mr. Kurtzman, who gave up on the franchise after “Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home. “It’s like talking to a priest and a casual churchgoer about Catholicism,” Mr. Lindelof said. “The story is being cooked up by someone who is aware of every shred of arcane Trekkery, and someone who isn’t hampered by decades of canon.”
Ghost of Nixon said
by Boborci
Jan 12th, 2008
01:48:59 PM
"I think area 51 was a lie and rumor, BUT I DO THINK ORCI that you have fucked up in some other crazy bullshit way." ALL i can say to that is thank you for your blind faith... granted, it's faith that we'll fuck it up, but blind faith nonetheless.
If *I* saw that before Cloverfield...
by Lost_Horizon
Jan 12th, 2008
03:49:15 PM
I would hope that Cloverfield was going to be REALLY, REALLY good to compensate for such an amateurish Trek trailer that didn't show me anything. Don't misunderstand me, I'm sure he went to a lot of trouble, and it's got some nice qualities, but, not for a second, did I think that was JJ's trailer. Bob, can you comment on the degree to which this film attempts to put the magic back into space exploration? I mean, that's what's great about the original series, and, especially the much maligned (and underappreciated) Motion Picture. You get the sense that exploring the galaxy is not only an adventure, but a privilege and somewhat of a miracle. Like the pioneer age of aviation. In TMP, Kirk's not only excited to be back on the Enterprise, he's thrilled to get back to space. I think that "thrill" aspect has been sorely neglected in modern Trek. Space is just "the office" now. Background noise. Ho-hum. Hopefully, going back to the beginning will help to spark some wonder again. As for canon, what the nerds always neglect to mention is that Trek is replete with contradictions and inconsistencies already, so *what* canon? The saddest part of Trek is that it has been a floating turd for so long, that nitpicking is all the fans have left to focus on. Make a great (hell, even a GOOD) film, and 90% of the whining will disappear. Right now, Trek fandom is like Jack Nicholson at the beginning of As Good as it Gets: bitter, grumpy, lonely bigots, ready to throw your dog down a laundry chute. Give them an enjoyable Trek film, and it'll have the same effect as Nicholson getting some of that nice, blonde, single mom Helen Hunt pussy. They'll mellow out, remember their manners, and maybe enjoy life a bit. Or not.
It looked like CG from the 90's
by skywalkerfamily
Jan 12th, 2008
04:12:14 PM
Remember B5? Even that looked better than this.
RE: "Msg. to Borky (get it? B. Orci?)"
by randie1313
Jan 12th, 2008
05:11:03 PM
Yeah, I get it. That's what you have instead of "smart" or "clever."
whats with all the double posts
by Sid Kibbitz
Jan 12th, 2008
07:16:32 PM
makes no sense
I hope they redesign the Enterprise cause it's needed.
by The Founder
Jan 12th, 2008
07:19:45 PM
I've got no problem with Trek, but the 60's look is dated by today's sci-fi standards. The truth is that Trek needs to be totally reimagined to become appeal to a new generation but at the same time make the old fans happy, but then again the old fans by their lonsome isn't enough to keep Trek afloat. It needs to appeal to the mainstream. Well good luck to Abrams and his crew.
I hope they redesign the Enterprise cause it's needed.
by The Founder
Jan 12th, 2008
07:21:52 PM
I've got no problem with Trek, but the 60's look is dated by today's sci-fi standards. The truth is that Trek needs to be totally reimagined to become appeal to a new generation but at the same time make the old fans happy, but then again the old fans by their lonsome isn't enough to keep Trek afloat. It needs to appeal to the mainstream. Well good luck to Abrams and his crew.
Nice one!
by EvilGeek1
Jan 12th, 2008
10:24:42 PM
I just want to compliment whoever made that. It took me (and a good Trekkie friend) a good while to figure out where the various audio and visual segments came from. Fair play to you. I thought it was for real when I saw it first. Good man yourself!
Lost Horizon...
by DoctorWho?
Jan 12th, 2008
10:44:08 PM
Great point!: "Space is just "the office" now. Background noise. Ho-hum". So true, yet I never quite put my finger on it.Even Picard channeled that sentiment a bit in NG. If that little intangible could be recaptured,ANY sci fi will be the better.
Trek Wreck....
by DarfurOnTheRocks
Jan 12th, 2008
10:52:39 PM
After all the nutting tickling of Nimoy's voice and JJ at the helm wears off, we will be left of a movie which does not hold a candle to classic Trek. Kirk as a obnoxious jock? Time traveling yet again?
I like it
by BetaSword
Jan 12th, 2008
11:50:49 PM
]wnether it´s faked or not, i like it. Well, I´m also waiting for the next StarTrek New Voyages Episode(it´s a Fanmade Season5 of Classic, supported by several Stars, for those who don´t know). That aside, this is my first Comment here using my Wii and I also figured out, how to use ICQ on the Internet-Channel(communication tube.net).
I like it
by BetaSword
Jan 12th, 2008
11:56:07 PM
]wnether it´s faked or not, i like it. Well, I´m also waiting for the next StarTrek New Voyages Episode(it´s a Fanmade Season5 of Classic, supported by several Stars, for those who don´t know). That aside, this is my first Comment here using my Wii and I also figured out, how to use ICQ on the Internet-Channel(communication tube.net).
I like it
by BetaSword
Jan 12th, 2008
11:56:11 PM
]wnether it´s faked or not, i like it. Well, I´m also waiting for the next StarTrek New Voyages Episode(it´s a Fanmade Season5 of Classic, supported by several Stars, for those who don´t know). That aside, this is my first Comment here using my Wii and I also figured out, how to use ICQ on the Internet-Channel(communication tube.net).
sorry, can someone delete my last 2?
by BetaSword
Jan 12th, 2008
11:59:56 PM
Sorry for doubleposts, can someone please delete the obsolete ones(including this)?
ORCI, ARE YOU SERIOUS? SERIOUSLY?
by BringingSexyBack
Jan 13th, 2008
12:22:45 AM
You're a supposed writer, one who makes presumably millions, or at least hundreds of thousands, and you write "you're question was"?? If it were anyone but you, I wouldn't care, but for a professional writer to make the most basic of mistakes like that speaks volumes about the quality of your work. Holy shit, I don't know if I support this writers' strike anymore, if this is who's striking. Ridiculous.
I was not a fan of Star Trek until...
by ccchhhrrriiisssm
Jan 13th, 2008
01:00:17 AM
...I watched WRATH OF KHAN as a child. I remember being genuinely moved by the film (even as immature as I was). I later enjoyed Star Trek 3, 4, 6, First Contact very much. I enjoyed The Motion Picture and GENERATIONS to a far lesser extent (even if both had a great story and infinite possibilities, but poor direction and a script that took itself far too seriously). But I have never been much of a fan of the Original Series (it is just too cheesy to me). The Next Generation was okay, but I never followed it religiously either. And I was totally lost to the later Trek incarnations. I do hope that this film brings back the philisophical imagination of WRATH OF KHAN. It is not only the classic by which all other TREK is judged, but a film by which all other SciFi is weighed. I am impressed by all parties involved with this film. In the words of Kirk (in Trek 3), "My friends -- the great experiment." This film IS an experiment about what would happen with a dead franchise if you poor great talent, direction, writing and lots of $$$. I hope the experiment works.
Bringsexyback - spelling
by Boborci
Jan 13th, 2008
02:17:41 AM
well, I guess you got me... sorta. I pruposely DO NOT spell check myself on these boards (unlike a script I might write) because it is one of the few pieces of evidence I have that I am not a studio plant or a press release.
Respect, Boborci...
by DarkHawke
Jan 13th, 2008
02:29:24 AM
...for coming here and taking what are no doubt your harshest critics head on. One question, though: is there anything you can tell a lifelong, dyed-in-the-wool Trekkie like me at this point about the new movie that would allay my fears? I'll settle for a denial of that rumor flying around that Kirk doesn't reprogram the Kobayashi Maru sim himself, instead getting a girl he's mackin' to do it for him, which though very Kirk in a way ain't really all that cool. You hit it on the head with your Melrose Place/O.C. joke: with a young cast like this being asked to take on such iconic roles, especially those tasked to portray the Big Three, that's without doubt the biggest common fear about this movie, that it'll aim for a mass audience of young'uns and leave the fans that made the franchise behind. I think our ultimate mutual question about this movie can be summed up in four words: will it be cool?

Well, will it?

FIRST
by gottaeat
Jan 13th, 2008
02:36:02 AM
Well... I'm a fake too... fake first
darkhawke -- I genuinely appreciate
by Boborci
Jan 13th, 2008
02:50:14 AM
YOUR willingness to engage in a good discussion and I completely understand where your initial argument about "pussing out:" is coming from. As far as confirming or denying Kirk's specific actions, let met just say how much I would love to answer directly -- however, to do so would set us up for having to deny every false story that comes along OR confirm a leak through our silence. A catch-22. A no win scenario, if you will. I will say this. Damon and I know our canon, and any deviations from canon (which is neither a confirmation nor a denial that we are deviating from canon) will not be the result of mere ignorance of the meaning of Star Trek. Abandon all hope all ye who hope to discredit our efforts through ignorance of Star Trek. We did our homework. You may not like our extrapolation of Star Trek, but you will not be able to attribute your dislike to our ignorance or reverence for Star Trek. This is all a long winded way of saying that I understand, even through your few yet articulate words, what it is that you see in Trek. And we agree. And your concerns are and have been on our minds. They are in the sauce that we have cooked up. I think you will be able to taste these elements, even if you think we have deviated in the letter or spirit of the law. As far as your concern that we are making this for a mass audience -- I will plead guilty. But not for the reasons you imagine. We have said repeatedly that this movie is, in a way, two movies in one. If you are a die hard fan who knows everything, YOUR KNOWLEDGE WILL BE REWARDED and paid off in the film, because you will pick up on things that only an expert would know. However, if you are new, and have never seen Trek or don't like Sci-fi in general, you will see a different movie -- one that introduces you to Star Trek and Sci-Fi. I do not believe that these goals are mutually exclusive with the goal of making Trek smart (as it always was), relevant to the world (as it always was at its best), and kicking serious ass. Wish I could be more specific, and we will be as Zero hour approaches. I appreciate your time.
jj this, jj that
by noiretblanc
Jan 13th, 2008
03:08:00 AM
jesus fuck
boborci...
by ccchhhrrriiisssm
Jan 13th, 2008
04:04:38 AM
Where the hell is Canada, Texas?
This is very similar to what the official teaser will be
by BIarney
Jan 13th, 2008
04:17:39 AM
In fact I'd hazard a guess that the author of this fake trailer mocked this one up based on the official one about to be released in a week's time.
All I hope is that the Transformer's shitty script was thanks to
by Vek
Jan 13th, 2008
04:31:59 AM
Michael Bay's involvement and not a testament to Orci & Kurtzman's efforts, because if not then expect a really shitty Star Trek where Chekhov pisses on Nero to express his umbrage.
BringingSexyBack - spellcheck
by Vek
Jan 13th, 2008
04:35:12 AM
I think you'll find mixing "you're" and "your" does not reflect on ones ability to spell or their ability to tell a story. So wind your neck in.
Juust throw in a bunch of tribbles into this movie
by Supermans
Jan 13th, 2008
05:51:17 AM
and I might go see it... Oh wait, tribbles shouldn't have been discovered yet... Ahh, that don't matter, Enterprise already screwed that plenty...
VEK
by BringingSexyBack
Jan 13th, 2008
08:52:13 AM
So misspelling does not reflect on one's ability to spell? Sad to know your expectations of professional writers is so low. Try pulling your head out of the sand.
OKAY BOB ORCI
by BringingSexyBack
Jan 13th, 2008
09:01:25 AM
We know you're (you are) not a plant already, the real deal Roberto. Like I said, I don't normally care about shit like that but you're writing Star Trek. Anyway, nuff said on the matter. Like I said in a previous TB, your interaction with fans can only improve your insight into the movies the audience wants, so it's appreciated. Now low-five me, bro.
BringingSexyBack
by Vek
Jan 13th, 2008
09:14:14 AM
Read what I said, you big fool. I said mixing "you're" and "your" is not a spelling error as your egregiously commented nor does it reflect on someone's ability to spell.
Oops
by Vek
Jan 13th, 2008
09:15:45 AM
... nor does it reflect on someone's ability to tell a story. You got me all worked up I made a mistake. Damn you.
IT'S OKAY VEK
by BringingSexyBack
Jan 13th, 2008
09:24:37 AM
I've been called an argumentative fuck, so please don't take offense. I'm seeing a therapist.
Nah. No offence taken at all.
by Vek
Jan 13th, 2008
09:51:44 AM
I like reading your comments usually as they're mostly laugh out loud hilariously ... but just wanted to call you out on that one. Carry on.
There are two ways of approaching this franchise:
by rbatty024
Jan 13th, 2008
09:53:43 AM
the first option is to let it die. After a handful of series and eleven movies maybe it's just time to let it go. I'm a big Trek fan, but after the last movie and the last two series I can see the wisdom in this move. The second option is to try and broaden the audience. Obviously this is what they're trying to do. Too often broadening the audience means dumbing down the material. I think this is why people are so up in arms. If you dumb down the material then you lose what Trek is all about. At that point you might as well have let it die. Of course, by making it a prequel and using well known characters they also have the opportunity of creating an unintimidating entry point to the franchise. I think everyone hopes this is the direction they're taking. Of course, I can understand the sense of trepidation on boards like this.
Leave the boards to fans, please
by matineer
Jan 13th, 2008
11:43:16 AM
Having screenwriters on here does nothing but steer half the posters into genuflecting and fawning. If you're a big writer at least post anonymously like the other (probably) award winners trolling these boards. As for Star Trek, saying how great it is continually is pointless. Let the work speak for itself. My two dents.
...
by halsolo
Jan 13th, 2008
12:36:44 PM
It doesn't show much, but what it does, and the way it invokes it reminds me WHY Star Trek has lasted so long.
Nice job.
by TattooedBillionaire
Jan 13th, 2008
12:38:30 PM
Now, let's get a real one!
Not only fake...
by Lemming
Jan 13th, 2008
12:50:44 PM
but shit. How could Harry actually like this let alone think it was real?
Mr. Orci - major props, dude
by Sir Loin
Jan 13th, 2008
03:31:47 PM
Your responses to some of these people are hilarious and you're a good sport. It's family legend that my dad was a fan from the get-go and I was likely conceived after an episode of the original series...early memories consist of watching "Arena" with my dad and crapping my Pampers, so I can't wait to see what you guys have cooked up!
Writing a ST "Origins" movie
by veritasses
Jan 13th, 2008
03:46:28 PM
is a tough task. Trek has a huge, decades long, global following and an incredibly vast, rich, detailed universe that the fans understand better then the creators. They have technical manuals, books about alien anatomy, TV shows about the Science of Trek, and people who speak the language of a completely made up race. Nerds being nerds (yes, I count myself as one) are hard to please in general and Trek (and SW nerds) might be the toughest critics among us. I have to give some kudos to anyone who even tries to write something that's going to please the fans. Even if it doesn't "fit" perfectly into the Trek universe though, I do have faith that Abrams will, at the very least, give us a very entertaining movie.
OF COURSE IT'S FAKE -- IT'S GOOD!
by Cruel_Kingdom
Jan 13th, 2008
07:08:33 PM
This is as good as time as any,,,
by thegreatwhatzit
Jan 13th, 2008
09:08:04 PM
Here's my imitation of Ernest Borgnine as Quinton McHale (from the classic McHALE'S NAVY sitcom): "How did you eight balls ever get into the Navy??" Thank you.
Low fives all around
by 'Cholera's Ghost
Jan 13th, 2008
09:54:22 PM
To the person or persons who made that.
Just kidding.
by 'Cholera's Ghost
Jan 13th, 2008
09:55:19 PM
Consider that low five taken back at the last moment, pwning you utterly.
Nemoy as the Voice -- WHY???
by jimbojones123
Jan 13th, 2008
09:59:40 PM
Really, why??? I don't get it.
I think the movie should end with the "Space"
by skywalkerfamily
Jan 13th, 2008
10:01:50 PM
line. It would be perfect. There's no five year mission since the Enterprise is on it's first shakedown cruise type mission.
CHOLERA YOU FORKIN' BASTAGE
by BringingSexyBack
Jan 13th, 2008
10:07:02 PM
Won't anybody low five me? I'll ask Sly in the Q&A. He'll low five me.
BSB
by 'Cholera's Ghost
Jan 13th, 2008
10:35:58 PM
Speaking of fives and variations thereof: Once, a friend and I came up with the awesome-est five I have ever performed later christened the "Flipside" where you walk up to the other person and right at the last moment throw up your half of the High Five, the other person completes it with a thunderous crack, followed immediately with a nerve-burning low-five "on the flipside" as you walk past each other, backs still turned. Yes, a NO LOOK flipside low-five, able to be performed only by the greatest fivers. The first time it was completely spontaneous and looked extremely cool in front of everyone at work. We were held in unusually high esteem afterwards. I heard that a Plaque was constructed at the spot where the first Flipside was performed, in commemoration of the event.
Well said, Boborci...
by DarkHawke
Jan 13th, 2008
11:56:12 PM
...so well said, in fact, you've moved me from an "I'll catch it when it hits HBO" stance to "Hmmm, when's opening night again?" I understand your position in not wanting to be besieged, hemmed in or reveal closely guarded secrets, but you still have given this old Trekkie some hope about an effort that kept sounding worse and worse in recent months. Your task was more than daunting, and if your script varies from the letter of Trek canon but not the spirit, that's more than okay. I'm not looking for a thin re-working of what I've already seen (I HAVE seen all of Next Gen), but something new and cool with the characters and circumstances I grew up (and old!) with. If y'all can do that successfully within the context of an origin/prequel story, well I'll doff my hat to you and insist on an Academy Award nomination!

That and I FINALLY looked you up in the IMDB and saw you and your partner were co-writers on one HELL of a great ride last summer, Transformers. A movie that FAR exceeded my expectations in every way. I take back the "n00b tool" line and beg your pardon, sir.

'Course, you know that if THIS movie sucks in ANY way, I'll be at the front of the torch-and-pitchfork wielding crowd with a couple BIG ol' crosses and a sack of nails, right? ;)

If you're the real Orci..
by vadakinX
Jan 14th, 2008
12:33:14 AM
Then I have to ask, how in God's name ca you get away with writing Transformers, with it's many plotholes and inconsistencies, get the Trek job on the back of that piece of crap script that needed a major rewrite (still can't believe Spielberg OK'd it), while I'm stuck writing independant low-budget dramas for stuck up "artistic" directors, with absolutely no chance of breaking into Hollywood?

What makes you better than me? I read that Transformers script, and then I looked at my own treatment (that I had done in my spare time with no intention of submitting) for a TF trilogy, and I just couldn't see what made yours so great that Spielberg gave it the greenlight. It had numerous plotholes as I've mentioned already, and story was sacrificed in favour of action, with the title characters being pushed into the background, and that was just the script, that was before Bay decided to blow more stuff up.

So what makes you better than me or a thousand other guys who have read your scripts and realised that what we were doing was equal, and in a lot of cases, better than your work.

Now I don't like criticising fellow writers, so maybe it's just frustration coming out here, and I'm certainly willing to give Trek a chance. But the Transformers script was certainly below par. It may just be a toy robot movie but source material is no excuse for bad storytelling, and I'm sre you'd agree.

Having said that...can you give me a job? :P I'm actually working on something right now, something big I'm hoping to give to Warner Brothers once the strike is over.

Any advice? I can't really go into what the project is yet, because Warners own the property I'm writing for and talking about it now could lead to some complications, especially with the strike and all.

I'm not based in the US, which could prove to be a big problem in submitting, though it does mean that I'm not bound by any WGA rules preventing me from writing (though I obviously wouldn't submit until after the strike, at which time I'd seek to join the WGA. The last thing I want is to be blacklisted for working as a scab).

So if you are the real Orci, any advice on breaking in to Hollywood would be appreciated...obviously I need to be a good writer...though if Dougherty and Harris can get the Superman job, standards wouldn't appear to be that high.

How great am I?
by vadakinX
Jan 14th, 2008
12:35:03 AM
Criticise the mans writing then ask him for advice....genius. :P
8balls respond
by ArcadianDS
Jan 14th, 2008
09:26:14 AM
"uh because we were drafted, captain." "awwww hornswaggle. I'm gonna go ask Leadbottom for some 3 day passes."
"Gee, I love that kind of talk!"
by thegreatwhatzit
Jan 14th, 2008
09:50:10 AM
I didn't realize that Mako played most of the Japanese characters on this sitcom ("This show smell all the way back to Tokyo!").
AWFUL NARRATION!
by FleshMachine
Jan 14th, 2008
11:29:17 AM
NIMOY DOING SHATNER?
"...I threw up in my mouth a little bit..."
by two-one-oh
Jan 14th, 2008
11:59:03 AM
Have you ever wished you could get back time wasted on dumb stuff? I think this crap`age is one of those times. Even if its announced as fake. It's obviously, unbelievably a sad, sad attempt at editing or whatever...
Bones, Scotty, JJ
by I AM ROCKO
Jan 14th, 2008
12:14:33 PM
I really cannot see Karl Urban as Dr. McCoy, I cannot see Simon Pegg as Scotty, I was underwhelmed by MI3 and got fed up with Lost half way Season Two. I love Trek (The Original Series, TNG, DS9- Voyager not fussed, Enterprise- fuck no) and The Wrath of Khan is one of the greatest sequels of all time and one of the greatest sci fi films ever, but please let it go now.
As the only TBer on here with blood ties to the original Star Tr
by anchorite
Jan 14th, 2008
12:26:15 PM
let me just say that I am thoroughly tired of the perpetual "re-imaginings" that are nothing more than lackluster and uncreative retreads of the original series.

This new Star Trek movie is a blatant and soulless attempt at jump-starting a dead franchise for purely financial reasons. The selection of the hip and popular JJ Abrams as director, and Bob Orci and Alex Kurtzman (fresh from their recent **financial** success with Transformers) as writers should indicate the shrewd and calculating thought process of Paramount - something that should make true Trek fans cringe, weep, and possibly crap their collective engineering jumpsuits.

Abrams is a true Hollywood player - the type that knows how to win at the Hollywood game and has just enough actual talent to squeak by. What he lacks in true creativity he makes up for in business acumen.

He has managed to sell the perpetually gullible Paramount on the idea that he can get the Trek franchise alive again for a whole new generation. That means a younger cast (comprised of young upstarts and faded starlets, and a few big names, to boot) and lots of deviations from established Trek canon in order to make things hip, fresh, edgy, etc.

Yes, all the buzz words that make up the vocabulary with which Hollywood so earnestly operates. The ones that should frighten and sicken right-thinking people everywhere.

As if Rick Berman and Brannon Braga didn't do enough to disembowel Star Trek during their obnoxious tenure, now we have Paramount giving it over to (a couple of) the guys that ruined the Transformers and the guy that WANTED to ruin Superman. Lucky for us, we got Bryan Singer's brilliant vision instead. Okay, so maybe Superman fans would've lost either way. Still, at least Singer's Lex Luthor wasn't revealed to be a Kryptonian (fuck you very much, Mr. Abrams)!

I was working for Paramount during Nemesis. I remember all of the buzz surrounding the hiring of John Logan, fresh from winning his Academy Award - Best Screenplay for Gladiator. Look what that gave us: a soulless re-hash of Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan.

It was a pitiful film. I remember the production crew lamenting the entire process. They hated working on it. At the same time, Enterprise was revving up. Again, all the empty promises were made to Star Trek fans who so desperately wanted something that would rekindle the spirit of the original series. We all know how that turned out.

Similar promises are being made now. Except this time they ring even more hollow. This time the cynicism has set in. Even Bob Orci will tell you if you're a fan you'll probably be disppointed or hacked off at this new iteration. And he doesn't care. Why? Because you don't matter. Paramount has moved on.

Now it's all about bringing in the newer, fresher eyes and asses. Paramount still sees Trek as a cash cow and they aren't about to let respect for loyal fans stand in they way of making a buck or billion.

Star Trek: The Next Generation indeed. Except this time it isn't the characters that have changed. It's the target audience. Like Bill Shatner said to Trekkies at a convention in the famous SNL skit , "Get a Life. Move On." By bringing on Orci, Abrams, et al, Paramount is saying the same thing to us. Kirk lamented getting old in Star Trek II. I'm beginning to identify with those sentiments. "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times." For the studio, Orci, Abrams and a select few, it is undoubtedly the best of times. For true Star Trek fans, it may very well turn out to be the worst of times indeed.
stand in "their" way, not "they" way.
by anchorite
Jan 14th, 2008
12:40:34 PM
NT
That was exhausting.
by two-one-oh
Jan 14th, 2008
01:13:08 PM
Remember to breathe between rants. It makes the basement seem not quite so small and dismal.
Rant? Nope. Just speaking the truth...
by anchorite
Jan 14th, 2008
01:23:07 PM
Sometimes it takes more than a paragraph or two.
I'd hate to have been in a study group with you!
by anchorite
Jan 14th, 2008
01:24:34 PM
Can you make it through more than a comic book without crying?
Nope. It's a rant.
by two-one-oh
Jan 14th, 2008
01:31:39 PM
Trek IS a cash cow, and what respect for loyal fans is being obstructed? How? In the end - it is a business. I'm not a fan of the cast or story line either, but I still don't don't get it. You come across more arrogant than the studio you're trying to rip on.
Silly
by flossygomez
Jan 14th, 2008
01:38:07 PM
Looks more like a teaser for the Wrath of Khan. Anyone fooled by this, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell to you.
You mean - " National Lampoon's..
by two-one-oh
Jan 14th, 2008
01:43:23 PM
...Film School Drop Out.." written and directed by anchorite
The cast and the story, you dolt. You said it yourself!
by anchorite
Jan 14th, 2008
02:01:02 PM
"I'm not a fan of the cast or story line either, but I still don't don't get it."

You're saying you don't like the casting choices or the story either, but you can't understand how those two things sucking would disrespect the many millions of existing Trek fans? Are you serious?

Why don't you spend a little less time trying to attack me and a little more time thinking about this whole situation from a fan's perspective. Then maybe you'll "get it".

As for me being arrogant - I'd say the arrogance is being displayed by Paramount, Orci, Abrams, etc. Those people are arrogantly making a Star Trek movie for purely financial reasons and treating it much in the same way the Transformers property was handled. Or do you not "get" why so many fans who grew up watching Transformers were pissed off by the recent movie?

Multiply that by ten-fold and that's how Star Trek fans will react to this new, hipper and edgier take on their beloved characters.

By the way, I predict that this new cast will have ZERO on-screen chemistry, which is what the original Trek cast had in spades.
Whatever
by Saerie
Jan 14th, 2008
02:15:12 PM
You guys are so predictible. It'd be more shocking at this point if you DIDN'T instantly complain every time one of these kinds of movies come out. I can't wait to see this. I have never been a Trekkie but I'd watch Zachary Quinto watch paint dry. And I have faith in JJ Abrams. He obviously has passion for the project. It's going to rock and all of you are going to eat your snobby words, just watch. I'll be the one over here saying "I told you so".
Ron-I saw it-it's HUGE-
by TomBodet
Jan 14th, 2008
02:25:46 PM
-it's a SHATNER LION---
Saerie, then you must have watched Season 2 of Heroes...
by anchorite
Jan 14th, 2008
02:40:34 PM
because watching paint dry was about like watching season 2. Sylar was just as boring as everyone else.
And Saerie, you are exactly the person they are speaking to...
by anchorite
Jan 14th, 2008
02:44:46 PM
with this new Trek "re-imagining". It proves my point - these guys don't seem to give a shit about the fans of the original series and cast. Sure, they cast Nimoy as the older Spock. So they threw us a bone. Great. Now chew on it for a while, dig a hole and bury it, you mutts.
It's a LION that SHAT...
by anchorite
Jan 14th, 2008
02:45:18 PM
I'll give you that.
anchorite...
by Lou Stools
Jan 14th, 2008
03:18:02 PM
...or can I just call you Brannon, I have two questions: 1) Is it true Jerri Ryan's pussy smelled like Campbell's Vegetable Soup, and 2) Did you keep a box of Oyster Crackers on your night stand?
If a movie can piss you off...
by two-one-oh
Jan 14th, 2008
04:29:06 PM
..then real life must have even less entertainment value.
Brannon? We named the dog Brannon...
by anchorite
Jan 14th, 2008
04:52:04 PM
Jeri Ryan's pussy does not smell like vegetable soup, Campbell's or otherwise. It smells like clam chowder. And, on occasion, like Teen Spirit. And those are not oyster crackers on my night stand. They're
Wait for it...
by anchorite
Jan 14th, 2008
04:53:14 PM
two-one-oh's balls. Though they can easily be mistaken for oyster crackers, undoubtedly.
Thanks! I needed that...
by two-one-oh
Jan 14th, 2008
05:11:41 PM
...this is the most fun I've had all day. You guys (or whatever) are awesome. Now back to the Trek promotions...
That was awezzzzzzzzzz...
by gringostar
Jan 14th, 2008
06:22:29 PM
Yawn. That was total crap. At least the Spiderman 3 fake trailer employed a little rotoscoping and creativity. Wow, were flying by Jupiter... zzzzzzzzzzzz.
anchorite
by Boborci
Jan 14th, 2008
08:11:20 PM
You said, "Even Bob Orci will tell you if you're a fan you'll probably be disppointed or hacked off at this new iteration. And he doesn't care. Why? Because you don't matter." I NEVER SAID THAT NOR DO I BELIEVE THAT.
I hear you, anchorite, but hear this...
by DarkHawke
Jan 14th, 2008
08:28:49 PM
EVERYTHING done in Holly-weird is for profit, including each and every episode of the Original Star Trek. Everyone involved did it for money, from Shatner to Roddenberry to the effin' key grips. So dissing anyone involved in this new movie for wanting to make boatloads of money off of it is disingenuous, and if you're as involved in the movie making biz as you say you are, you should know better than to make that part of your criticism.

As far as the creativity/talent of the players involved, that's a valid point of contention. I'm not all the way behind Abrams & Co. myself. I love Lost but Alias left me cold, and after watching the first Mission: Impossible movie, I have no need to see THAT particular franchise fucked up the ass anymore. But as I said, I enjoyed the hell out of Transformers. Does that mean that Orci and Kurtzman can do Star Trek right? Dunno for sure, but that was a pretty balls-out and fun movie, so if we can get even half as much of that into a Trek movie again, I'd be more than grateful!

Which brings us to the eternal struggle of Holly-weird productions: art vs. commerce. Again, I can't say for certain where this'll come down. I had sky-high hopes for Superman Returns, and they were brought down to Earth quite decisively. But taking Boborci at his word, it seems like there's the requisite passion involved to make this Star Trek movie worthy of the name, something I haven't seen in over 16 years. And let's face it, it's in all of their best FINANCIAL interests to have this be a BIG ol' success. The careers of Messrs. Singer, Dougherty and Harris didn't exactly get lit on fire after Superman Returns, and it was by all measures a financial success. Was it a success by the measure of the critics, and more importantly, the fans? Do I even have to answer that question? And exactly *when* is that next Superman movie coming out?

Do you see what I'm getting at? I thoroughly understand your reservations (to say the least!) about this new movie, but I think you're being too hard by half on it. And if it doesn't turn out to be worthy of the name Star Trek, what are any of us not involved in the production or stockholders of Viacom out? The price of our movie tickets, at most. As I mentioned previously, Star Trek has gone well beyond it's profit-oriented, entertainment industry origins into the realm of modern myth. If it survived the tenure of Rick Berman, Brannon Braga, and yes, even the mystifyingly obtuse direction of Gene Roddenberry himself, it can survive yet another poor movie. Anything that comes out on December 25th won't take away the original series or even the original cast movies. If you don't like it, pay it no mind. That's what's worked for me for the last 20+ years!

What I liked about Transformers
by 'Cholera's Ghost
Jan 14th, 2008
09:27:13 PM
Was "Hey, we are gonna have a hellacious uberbattle with the Decepticons over this thing which will feature giant battling robots mauling each other with advanced weaponry, airstrikes and the liberal use of heavy munitions...let's take it, say, to a crowded population center."
Nice... I guess
by jorson28
Jan 14th, 2008
09:35:04 PM
Though, again, obviously fake because I seriously doubt ALL those actors' names will be listed on any single trailer. Also,I doubt they'd use Dennis McCarthy's "Star Trek Generations" music, though it was kind of a nice touch. I wonder if they'll show Captain Pike getting injured and paralyzed. Of course, it wouldn't be consistent with canon because Kirk didn't know about it until after the fact, but then, how much of Trek has ever been consistent? There... I've officially said absolutely nothing and wasted somebody's time. I've met my quota for the day.
What'd you think of that trailer, Senator Vreenak?
by mustang_dvs
Jan 14th, 2008
09:42:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =7qKcJF4fOPs
Oh WAH
by Saerie
Jan 14th, 2008
09:42:39 PM
It's impossible to please old school fanboys of Star Trek, X-Men, or any other huge franchise, so when people make these kinds of movies, they'd be best off not to even pay attention to the message boards at all. I mean, seriously. Y'all are so predictible it's almost embarrassing at this point. 1. Someone decides to remake some old geek-movie (or TV show). 2. Before even seeing a script or hearing about casting, fanboys starting bitching about how awful it's going to be. Because god forbid you just wait and see, right? 3. Negativity about the project spreads like wildfire across all of the big message boards, usually starting at AICN. 4. The film/tv creators go on record stating that they're fans too, and they're trying to stay as close to the material as they can while updating it and drawing new fans in. 5. The movie premieres and fanboys either geek all over it or hate it, it's about 50/50. Wash, rinse, repeat. Don't you guys ever get bored of this? Seriously. What has JJ Abrams ever screwed up enough to make you think he can't handle a Star Trek movie? And is there anything he *could* do to make you happy? Seriously, think about it. I doubt you have an answer.
Oh, and
by Saerie
Jan 14th, 2008
09:47:21 PM
To the person who ragged on season 2 of Heroes: I'm not saying it was great. But ZQ was great with the material he was given, and he was phenomenal in Season 1. The guy has serious depth and can do comedy as well as drama, and do both of them remarkably well. He'll prove himself with this film, mark my words. He's *really* something special.
Star Trek XI Plot Leaked
by Dilox Esp
Jan 14th, 2008
10:44:36 PM
Has the plot of trek XI already leaked online? See it here: Post 114, AWESOME!!! http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/ 13/nimoy-on-aging-and-revitali zing-trek/
Combination Package
by flossygomez
Jan 15th, 2008
12:24:28 PM
Spock shrinks himself to hobbit stature, masturbates with his feets to put some hair on em and uses the Guardian to go back and prevent Frodo from destroying the ring, thus making Middle Earth less gay, the end.
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