but the average person in here won't know the difference between camp, carter, howard, or the dino movie.

I've never read the books, but I've heard enough people on this site say that it's completely different from the Conan we got on screen. I think no matter which way they end up going (following books or follow established movie canon), it'll probably miss the target. I would like to be wrong on this, but who will they get to play Conan? I realize they made Arnie a dumbass who didn't actively fight for his freedom, and that's not who Conan was, but like he did have presence. Who would be perfect to play that role?

He said they're aiming for a trilogy of films with Conan starting out as a thief and ending up as king of Aquilonia in the third film. Also, he insisted that they were going with an unknown in the title role, since they basically want the guy to BE Conan, not some other guy with celebrity baggage playing Conan. Finally, and most importantly, he emphasized that they wanted to make a movie true to Howard's vision.

I should add that I love Milius's film, but Howard's Conan it ain't. The lumbering fathead Arnie plays is NOTHING like Howard's character. If you changed the names and places in Milius's film, there is virtually nothing which indicates it's a Conan film.

He may have a "barbarous accent", but he's also well-spoken, multi-lingual and highly intelligent if uncultured and uneducated.

All of these qualities are either born to him or acquired by his own strength and effort.

Arnie's Conan is a feeble-minded putz who, if he hadn't been freed, would have happily been a drooling gladiator slave for the rest of his life.

Howard's Conan would have reduced Arnie's version to a steaming, bloody, ribbonous pile of offal in about two seconds.

I discovered the character in 1977, and Howard's Conan was repeatedly touted not only for his prowess as a warrior, but for his intelligence as well as his abilities as a linguist.

But it was also written that he was *highly* superstitious (and one could say tremendously frightened) in relation to all things supernatural.

It would be interesting to actually see the character Howard created, rather than the cheesy watered-down "this issue Conan faces the beast with the Platypus face and Skunk's ass" guy....

if you think milius and dino are there is concerning conan, go watched your dvd's. enjoy yourself some red sonja and conan the destroyer while you're at it.

if you like quality stick with the original works of ReH.

if you have to pick between the original conan or the interpreted 80s version, it's not a difficult choice. provided you have read some of ReH's original stories.

and the day a studio, successfully brings a truer ReH adaption to the the screen, is the day, most audiences and critics will step back to take a moment. knowing they've experienced something that hasn't been on the screen before.

Perhaps the Riddick character is the closest screen interpretation of ReH's alpha warrior, more so than Arnold's Conan. And Riddick doesn't even compare to the ReH Conan. So far that character has never jumped from the written page.

you are happy with the silliness of conan the destroyer or red sonja? more power to you. as for the 1st conan movie, its ok, but ReH fans know it for what the movie is, a shadow of what it could have been.

He's not supposed to look like one of those posing, mulleted, beefcake losers so often seen in Vallejo hackworks or on bad metal albums.

what you will find is milius lifting part of the frost giant's daughter, then making conan's king not by his own hand and not of aquilonia. growing old and fat.

the story reads more like a roman tell of debauchery and skulduggery, than the tale of conan strangling a king on his own throne and becoming the usurper.

variety and superhero hype have been all over this for awhile.

It's the 80-20 rule: They spend eighty percent of their time schmoozing and only twenty percent of their time writing.

It must be Harry's time of the month again. I'm having trouble posting.

As DoctorWho? said: "NO MODELS!" They look effeminate and anything BUT "barbaric."

I'm sure there're any number of "rough-n-tumble" looking musclemen out there who can act reasonably well. The studio just has to look around.

Kids, this is your brain on steroids. Don't do steroids.

By the way, your "j/k" was posted about 15 minutes after your first post. What happened was that you posted without reading the TB first. When you saw that I was active in the TB you panicked and tried to head off my inevitable response by posting a late "j/k".

Sorry, son, you lose.

Now go back to chemically sculpting that jawline and cro-magnon forehead. Remember, if your biceps get big enough, people will be too afraid of you to ask why you look like Alley Oop with a camel toe.

This has huge potential if treated right, or it could be Kull or Red Sonja if treated wrong. By Crom I pray they don't fuck it up, but we'll see.

Still, until I hear some casting and director attachments I have more faith in the new James Purefoy starring Solomon Kane movie than I do in this one. There's a new Red Sonja film in the works too, which, again, has potential if they don't screw it up. We'll see.

On top of that Mako is dead (may the great man rest in peace), Sandahl Bergman is all but retired, not even doing the z-grade fare that she was reduced to doing for much of her post Conan career, and John Milius, outside of being a credited producer/creator on HBO's superior Rome (which he didn't actively contribute to in any way, only helped set the project up initially), he hasn't directed a decent film in almost 20 years, and hasn't written a good (produced) script in 15. Time to let the pipe dream drift away methinks.

No, as much as I love the Milius/Arnie Conan, it's time has passed, and now is the perfect time for a proper R.E. Howard based Conan to unleash onto the screens. This isn't some crappy remake or cash in re-imagining, it's an opportunity to bring the character and universe of Howard's Conan to the screen as it was originally intended. This is akin to following the Ralph Bakshi Lord Of The Rings with Peter Jackson's Lord Of The Rings, or the 60's parody Casino Royale with the serious Daniel Craig Casino Royale from a couple years back. Not only is there room for a different, more faithful take on Conan, it could be something really great if handled correctly. Now whether it'll be handled correctly, that's the thing, but there's certainly room and huge potential for it.

In other words, while there is no doubt that they have made a lot of shit over the years, they've made a fair share of worthwhile movies too, so to act as if Lionsgate has never made anything interesting and/or worth watching is absolute bollocks.

Er, no you didn't. What you did was combine the Milius version with a bastardization of Howard's work even more severe than the first movie.

The only people even remotely happy with your idea are only the Milius movie fans. Any REH fan worth his salt would be horrified by that solution, and rightly so.

The idea of Conan being the son of royalty being visited by his dad's ghost is simply awful and goes against two of the very basic characteristics of Howard's Cimmerian.

I hope for a Lawrence of Arabia meets Braveheart with Excaliber overtones, but pray that it's not Herc and Xena or Kull humor-fest, with American English accents.

(DGMW-I still love Raimi despite Spiderman 3 - Avi, why couldn't you let Sam end his trilogy the way he wanted? You could have still had your Venom by #4 and started your Venom stand-alone series! You knew Sony wanted to keep it going for a while.)

BTW- have you seen the Stallone Q&A? there is a question from a Dr. Hffuhher (can't spell it and don't care) that stinks of Anchorite. I think his all consuming obsession with Islam is destroying his fragile little mind- he's really losing it.

And I'm having no luck getting hold of Pumpkinhead 3 & 4.

Nope, I haven't ordered the Big Bag o' Leppage yet. A bunch of other stuff got in the way, like buying a baby carriage, I'm afraid. It's at the top of my list right now, though. Let's hope we can find a decent TB to high(low)jack in the name of The Warwick soon!

Oh, and ruven76, sorry man, I just can't see it. That doesn't mean it couldn't possibly work, but it's certainly not the direction I'd go, I'd far rather see either a more faithful R.E. Howard Conan or a conclusion to the Milius Conan, rather than an uneasy blending of the two. Still, with the right people you can make almost anything work, so who knows...