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Movieweb does not have the CLOVERFIELD Monster and Paramount is not dumping HD DVD - Financial Times

Clears that up - FirsT? by AdrianVeidt	Jan 8th, 2008 03:36:13 PM

First! by skywalkerfamily	Jan 8th, 2008 03:36:33 PM
Aint it Rumor news!
Yes. Finally. I can die happy... that is, after I see the monste by AdrianVeidt	Jan 8th, 2008 03:36:44 PM

skywalkerfamily = pwnd n00b by AdrianVeidt	Jan 8th, 2008 03:37:12 PM

I have an HD player... by kuldan	Jan 8th, 2008 03:37:59 PM
...and I'm still going to buy a BLU-Ray player when they become a little cheaper, because, damnit, I want to watch "3:10 to Yuma" again...but, in good quality.
That maquette is way to lame to be 'The Cloverfield Monster' by KillaKane	Jan 8th, 2008 03:38:09 PM
Bunk indeed. Hope it's got squid lips! ;-)
PARAMOUNT is dumping HD DVD! by Orionsangels	Jan 8th, 2008 03:38:20 PM
You're gonna eat your words. This is all smoke and mirrors as usual.
Did anyone verify if President Baltar was full of shit or not? by AdrianVeidt	Jan 8th, 2008 03:40:02 PM
Because his spoilers redefined the effing word for me if he's telling the truth.
Twenty third! by skywalkerfamily	Jan 8th, 2008 03:41:33 PM
I heard that betamax was coming back.
Sorry, Harry, but youre wrong on Paramount by ShiftyEyedDog2	Jan 8th, 2008 03:42:06 PM
Other sites with much better sources in the DVD/AV industry have heard from those in the know that Paramount is in fact exercising an "out" clause in their contract with HD-DVD. Universal is expected to be making the switch as well. I think at this point, HD-DVD isn't even fighting it anymore. They're going to accept loss, and let the studios make the switch to the surviving format.
Make this SITE:AINT-IT-HDDVDvs.BLURAY-NEWS .com by travis-dane	Jan 8th, 2008 03:45:07 PM
How much more TB`s will this shit eat up?
I'm going to laugh my ass off...IF by F-1000	Jan 8th, 2008 03:45:11 PM
The reason we haven't seen the Cloverfield monster yet is because they never show it. A La Blair Witch. It'd be an ironic "fuck you" to the fan boys following this like the second coming of MAN IN SUIT. (Which is still better btw.) As for Cloverfield DO NOT WANT. This is the only movie that I have no interest in, will not support (all because of the lame marketing and vaugeness), but may actually download illegally just to spite the filmmakers. Seriously, if a "Blair Witch" shaky cam treatment of a monster movie, set in NYC (Is that the only city we can destroy? even after 9/11? Why not some other city with taller buildings?) doesn't sound like the most shoddy, shitty, derivative idea to you, you need to be recalibrated.
OK Harry, I've got this bookmarked for when they do drop HD DVD. by polyh3dron	Jan 8th, 2008 03:45:27 PM
It's such a weak denial it's not funny.
Is this The Digital Bits? by skywalkerfamily	Jan 8th, 2008 03:46:11 PM
Where the cool movie news?
I wished they dumped it, end this war right now and let the hd m by Evil Hobbit	Jan 8th, 2008 03:46:32 PM

Paramount's not leaving HD DVD? by kyle051554	Jan 8th, 2008 03:46:54 PM
So, all the news about the escape clause within their contract with the HD DVD group (that Paramount could leave if Warner went Blu-ray exclusive) was all crap? Sure.
This is getting crazy... by RAVENL0RD	Jan 8th, 2008 03:47:10 PM
Well, I don't know whether Paramount is going BLU or not, but it is all over the web today. Paramount had better start talking, one way or the other.
I wished they dumped it, end this war right now and let the hd m by Evil Hobbit	Jan 8th, 2008 03:47:14 PM
I wished they dumped it, end this war right now and let the hd market grow quick and swiftly!
harry please help by marv42134213	Jan 8th, 2008 03:48:22 PM
I am totally confused. I just got an HD-A3 for x-mas, now everybody on the other board is saying it is obsolete and I am idiot for getting it. Are HD-DVDs going away or is everyone just going apeshit over nothing. I know you are busy, but I think you would know the real answer. Thank you
I just got off a chocolate covered phone with Blu Ray by ArcadianDS	Jan 8th, 2008 03:48:31 PM
DAMN YOU, PHONE!
Sorry, Harry... by epitone	Jan 8th, 2008 03:49:46 PM
This morning, The Digital Bits reported that "reliable industry sources" had confirmed the Paramount switch to Blu-Ray. You're going to have to offer more than just a "NOT TRUE" to convince me otherwise.
Another source..from Bloomberg... by skimn	Jan 8th, 2008 03:51:52 PM
Jan. 8 (Bloomberg) -- Viacom Inc.'s Paramount Pictures denied a newspaper report that the studio is poised to follow Time Warner Inc. in abandoning Toshiba Corp.'s HD DVD technology. ``Paramount's current plan is to continue to support the HD DVD format,'' Brenda Ciccone, a spokeswoman for Paramount, said in an e-mail today."....I think that would about clinch that.
epitone, good point. by RAVENL0RD	Jan 8th, 2008 03:52:19 PM
People can say what they want about the Digital Bits, but they nailed the Warner move SMACK dab on the head.
It's inevitable Harry! by Orionsangels	Jan 8th, 2008 03:56:10 PM
Every company shows a brave face when they're going down with the ship. It's PR bullshit
So now AICN > The Financial Times? by Razorback	Jan 8th, 2008 03:56:20 PM
Bullshit.
2 girls one HD DVD player by skywalkerfamily	Jan 8th, 2008 03:58:47 PM

Paramount may leave but not today, they have released a statemen by Stormwatcher	Jan 8th, 2008 04:03:57 PM
The way I see it is as follows: A) I can get cheap HDDVD's from Bestbuy cuz the format will be dropped so that is awesome. B) the Blu camp will buy me out, maybe a disc exchange or some sht like that. Either way, I am not dropping 500 bucks on a Blu Ray when I got a HDDVD for 150. Maybe I will just wait a year now before buying any more discs.
I BELIEVE IN FINANCIAL TIMES TOO by Kragmose	Jan 8th, 2008 04:06:14 PM
I never cared which format dies first, as long as one of them do. It looks like it'll be HD-DVD, so be it. And this has nothing to do with my ownership of a PS3, cause I don't watch movies on it.
HD and Blue Ray are messing with the DVD by skywalkerfamily	Jan 8th, 2008 04:06:53 PM
world and both need to die a horrible death.
So when Paramount drops HD DVD in the upcoming weeks by AlwaysThere	Jan 8th, 2008 04:07:35 PM
then what will you say?
Err... the Paramount denial... by ckane123	Jan 8th, 2008 04:10:45 PM
"Continue to support" HD-DVD is the same thing that Warners is doing... they will release all announced HD-DVD titles and then STOP MAKING ANY MORE mid-year. So having Paramount saying they will "continue to support" HD-DVD could simply mean "...until the date we can exercise our opt-out clause" - Which will not be during CES, but I'd wager will be around the same time Warner's "ceases support."
We can only hope... by jab1981	Jan 8th, 2008 04:11:26 PM
Paramount needs to hurry up and drop HD-DVD. This war's been over for a while... all HD-DVD is doing is making it that much harder for the consumers who are ready to move on. I own an HD-DVD player and I wish it would've won, but I regret every movie I purchased in that format. Just another movie I'll be buying on Blu-Ray.
"Not dumping HD-DVD" by jj9126	Jan 8th, 2008 04:12:51 PM
Sure as hell doesn't mean "not going format neutral". I don't expect Paramount to dump HD-DVD, either...but they're sure as hell not going to stay exclusive.
IT WASN'T REPORTED AS FACT by leewan	Jan 8th, 2008 04:14:47 PM
Financial times reported a "source" close to paramount stated paramount was going to support blu-ray. Most logical people do not jump on that as a publisher reporting hard facts.
Paramount is going... by DigitalBeachWar	Jan 8th, 2008 04:15:02 PM
Blue-Ray. i just read it here http://tech.yahoo.com/bl ogs/null/64393
Paramount will not dump HD-DVD, but will go Neutral by dtpena	Jan 8th, 2008 04:19:17 PM
soon
Whats all this "Blu-Ray" stuff?! by DoctorWho?	Jan 8th, 2008 04:20:56 PM
;D
Sources by King Psyz	Jan 8th, 2008 04:21:41 PM
They're a valuable tool. Look we know the talking heads at Paramount are gonna say that the rumors are false. But the fact is that they cancelled announcing their new release schedule like they were supposed to. Now they're working on getting Blu Rays pressed on new releases and back catolog and will make the announcement right around the time their inventory of HD-DVDs is almost exhausted. Several tech and financial sources > you say so.
Sorry, Harry by WhereNoManHasGoneBefore	Jan 8th, 2008 04:23:58 PM
Sorry, Harry. I love you, buddy, and I've been visiting your site for over ten years. But in this Paramount/HD-DVD thing you are wrong, wrong, wrong. Whereas your site relies on rumor and "spies", The Digital Bits doesn't print ANYTHING unless they have it from very reliable sources (even if they do have to remain anonymous sometimes). I've been reading The Bits as long as I've been readin Aint It Cool News, and -- totally my guess -- I'd say you are right maybe 50-60% of the time. The Bits gets it right 99% to 100% of the time. (Just one example, they've been saying FOR MONTHS that Blu-Ray was going to win this stupid, nearsited, greedy format war. And now it appears the writing is on the wall.) If The Digital Bits say "reliable sources" are telling them that both Paramount AND Universal are days or hours from announcing a jump to Blu-Ray, it's going to happen. Period. Mark my words. The format war is over. All that's left is the crying and screaming and whining from the HD-DVD camp.
cloverfield by sokitome	Jan 8th, 2008 04:24:09 PM
When I first saw the Cloverfield trailer I thought it was cool but that was only on the assumption that only part of the movie would be shot like that. Please tell me the whole movie isn't shot like "blair witch shaky cam bullshit? If that is the case then I don't know about this flick. I'm still curious but this may be a "wait for dvd" if it is entirely shot like that. If anyone knows if it is please tell.
Why would Paramount want to go neutral? by LoneGun	Jan 8th, 2008 04:30:37 PM
They were neutral before they sided with HD-DVD. They claimed to have sided with HD-DVD because they thought that format had some kind of edge in the format war. It only makes sense that they will want to side with Blu-ray, now that Blu-ray has the obvious advantage. It's hard to see them going back to being neutral, and it's hard to imagine them staying with HD-DVD, under the latest circumstances.
I SUPPORT MORE FINANCIAL GOOD TIMES FOR ME ON THIS ONE. by Pennsy	Jan 8th, 2008 04:31:45 PM

monster monster monster..loads a money by semisaj	Jan 8th, 2008 04:37:22 PM
I have it on good authority that is indeed JJ Abrams momma...you heard it on AICN first chaps
Blu-Ray is FAR superior. by HB_Dad	Jan 8th, 2008 04:39:37 PM
Blu-Ray is FAR superior. More capacity = less compression and more room for extra goodies. Now it has a vast majority of exclusive backing, and go into most stores (Best Buy, Target, etc)and the Blu-Ray demo and display is hard to miss! Such is not the case with HD-DVD. HD-DVD needs die NOW!!!
Funny that movieweb posted that picture by cornponious	Jan 8th, 2008 04:40:23 PM
ONLY A FEW DAYS AFTER I POSTED IT HERE. Bastards.
Gotta love the "Warners Payoff" rumor, by Fist Dirtbox	Jan 8th, 2008 04:40:47 PM
especially as I'm yet to read anywhere legitimate reporting it. Unlike, of course, the Paramount/Dreamworks payola, which was substantiated as being a $150mil piece of market rigging on the part of the pro HD-DVD camp and reported everywhere as such. So basically the ONLY HD-DVD exclusive supporter is doing so because THEY were paid off! And that aint a rumor :p
Fuck HD-DVD and Blue Ray by semisaj	Jan 8th, 2008 04:40:49 PM
Anybody with any sense knows that we are now in the digital age and all these hardformats are outdated and part of history..dont buy in to it..its a waste of time..argue with me in 2 years time...you know its true
More news by the end of today? by AlwaysThere	Jan 8th, 2008 04:40:58 PM
It just might happen. More to come soon.
Harry you are wrong by BrowncoatJedi	Jan 8th, 2008 04:42:13 PM
There is no reason for Paramount, or Universal for that matter, to stay loyal to a dead format. What are they, idiots to don't like money? They will at least go neutral.
We're all just trying to beat the system. by Orionsangels	Jan 8th, 2008 04:45:27 PM
http://tinyurl.com/2jv8kj
Sorry harry, I trust Digital Bits over you by MattmanReturns	Jan 8th, 2008 04:46:48 PM
Digital Bits had to clean up your mess when you announced that HD-DVD was backwards compatible with DVD, but Blu-Ray wasn't. Remember that? I do.
So the monster is a big Humbug??? by Bert Fischer	Jan 8th, 2008 04:49:06 PM
Those things are nasty.
The Paramount Deal=18 Months by Jerri Blank	Jan 8th, 2008 04:50:17 PM
Paramount was paid $150 million to switch to HD-DVD and that agreement was only for 18 months. And don't go screaming at me, I'm not in this stupid war. The only HD programming my HD set receives is what I get through my HD cable box. I'm still with SD DVD until this shit storm is finally over, and even then I may be done for good. I'm just mad as hell at the studios for putting us through this goddamned format war. As a matter of fact, with the exception of a few obscure titles and of course, the Criterion disc of Lindsay Anderson's "This Sporting Life" later this month, I've stopped purchasing software all together. I'm nearly 40 and I've bled enough for my love of film. I just can't give anymore.
Microsoft's head of Xbox games says "blu ray drive possible" by ArcadianDS	Jan 8th, 2008 04:50:20 PM
They're hedging their bets over at Xbox now. The president of the games division has said when questioned about what will happen to the 360 should Blu-Ray indeed emerge as the standard platform - he says that developing a blu-ray drive for the 360 is something they are prepared to do.
Only way Cloverfield can't disappoint is if it is a Guinea Pig! by Lutz	Jan 8th, 2008 04:51:49 PM
We have all seen a Faux-zilla attacking everything. I want giant gerbil action. And maybe I am just old fashioned but I would hate for everything to go digital, what happens when the hard drive crashes? Can you imagine the people who spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on their movie collections being happy with that? A hard drive on a computer or an external hard drive only really lasts a few years. I hate when mine crashes and I loose any data I was foolish enough not to have backed up on CD or DVD. DVDs and CDs I get more than a decades worth of use out of and even then they are still going strong.
Broadband distribution will defeat DVD in 5 years by Razorback	Jan 8th, 2008 04:54:10 PM
The HD format requires at least twice the bandwidth and storage space. Don't count on BR going away for at least 10 years.
yeh right Harry by metaluna	Jan 8th, 2008 04:57:13 PM
You just keep on kidding yourself that's what they mean.
you spotty swetting nerds by semisaj	Jan 8th, 2008 05:00:16 PM
my brothers bigger than your brother,my xbox is better than you ps3,rah rah rah,i know more than you...god haven't some you left the playground?Why don't you just let it play out like they did with Betamax v VHS, ps2 v xbox V gamecube, mp3 players v minidisc..you guys have no control its all about the huge worldwide gonglomerates that have thier fingers in everything from mass media, banking, electronics,medication etc etc..it will be what it will be..let it pan out over the next year...then waste your money on whoever wins..not you by the way..as hardformats are history deal with it
Downloadable rears ugly head again... by wchblade	Jan 8th, 2008 05:00:56 PM
Before people start tearing me a new one I'm an impartial dude who flipped a coin based on the loads of info for both formats and lost apparently as I just plunked down $400.00 (some part of this was gift cards though) on a Toshiba A31. Anyway Comcast announced today a ultra-super fast internet connection a CES that claims to allow HD video downloads at 4 minutes per download. That said it'll be a LOOOOONG time before the majority of people out there adapt to it or can afford it I'm sure.
it's the ECHO Chamber, people! by ulcer	Jan 8th, 2008 05:01:59 PM
The various tech site are ALL reporting the story from the financial time, people! They are not confirming the news, they are just repeating the same story! Paramount spokepeople have denied it already, the various sites copying the FT story have not updated their story.
WHAT ABOUT THAT "ACCORDING TO JIM," MOVIE RUMOR? by Pound Sand	Jan 8th, 2008 05:02:15 PM
I was in a bar last night down in the Loop, and heard from a guy who knew a guy who knew a guy who knew a gal who used to work for the lady who used to do Jim Belushi's car detailing that this was greenlighted?
I doubt it's the monster, BUT by shenlong77	Jan 8th, 2008 05:03:09 PM
I'm lucky to have an invitation to attend a screening next Monday, so there's only6 days to go! I'm sure it'll start getting spoiled then though...
"hardformats are history deal with it by MattmanReturns	Jan 8th, 2008 05:05:01 PM

Hasn't Paramount already gone neutral?? by dr_john_zoidberg	Jan 8th, 2008 05:06:10 PM
To a certain degree? Transformers was a Paramount/Dreamworks joint, and correct me if I'm wrong, but that flick was released on BD and HDDVD, RIGHT?? That was 4 months ago. Someone please respond to this and let me know what the clause on that little slip up was. EXCLUSIVE, to me, means only one, not the other, and certainly not only exclusive when they feel like it. HIT ME BACK FELLAS!!
According to Jim, The movie, is on its way by Pipple	Jan 8th, 2008 05:08:16 PM
With comic prequel, toys, lunch boxes, and official laughtrack due to be released sometime around the holidays.
Death to HD Discs. by WickedMonster	Jan 8th, 2008 05:08:29 PM
Death to Blu-ray OR Death to HD-DVD. Now, if only I had a Blu-ray flag to burn. Heck, even a user manual would do.
Retract above post... by dr_john_zoidberg	Jan 8th, 2008 05:09:01 PM
Looks like I WAS wrong. I could have sworn that Trannies was available on Blu Ray as well as HDDVD, but I can find no evidence of such a release. Sorry. :-/
What happened to minidiscs? by WickedMonster	Jan 8th, 2008 05:10:06 PM
Haven't heard from them for a while...
the yanks are going to war with Iran it's official by semisaj	Jan 8th, 2008 05:12:38 PM
starting to hear the same noises we heard about Iraq leading up to that hidious odious wrongful war..they are provoking us on our boarders and against our ships..etc etc..god the yanks govt are fucking cunts!
What happened to laserdiscs? by AdrianVeidt	Jan 8th, 2008 05:17:11 PM
Haven't heard from them for a while, either...
what happened to 8 tracks by semisaj	Jan 8th, 2008 05:19:14 PM
havent heard about them for a while..hold on they used one in lost the episode where hurley rides the van
of course they are going to drop hd-dvd by Mr. Olson	Jan 8th, 2008 05:22:47 PM
The writing is on the wall.. 70% of all movie libraries now heading to the blu-ray side only 30% of back catalog now possible on HD-DVD. Paramount when part of 150 million payment dropped Blu-ray so fast they had to set aside disks they had all ready produced and were expected to arrive in stores that next week. They are saying very generic statements like right now we support hd-dvd. I totally believe that once they exercise their escape clause and/or find a legal loophole we will get the new all Blu-ray announcement.
"From" "about" by WickedMonster	Jan 8th, 2008 05:24:05 PM
Ok. To be honest, my mind is fried. But then English is my fifth language.
Mysterious Yobo by semisaj	Jan 8th, 2008 05:24:57 PM
you just made me chuckle out loud, s'all im saying!!
Paramount adding Bluray doesn't mean dumping HD-DVD by yodasteve	Jan 8th, 2008 05:26:55 PM
The two things aren't mutually exclusive. Paramount can go back to Blu-Ray and continue with HD-DVD. They probably have an out in their contract so they aren't exclusive to HD-DVD if enough of the industry switched to Blu-Ray. So harry is probalby right, Paramount is not dumping HD-DVD, but The Financial Times is probably right that Paramount is going to release titles on Blu-Ray too. -Steve
Buy both, you cheap fucks! by Hercules	Jan 8th, 2008 05:42:29 PM
I bought a HD-DVD player for $100; that's like the cost of five or six DVDs, right? The Blu-ray players will cost the same in a year or two. The real expense in HD is the screen, which still runs a thousand or two per unit (but is compatible with all HD formats). If you've made that kind of investment in an HD screen, throw a few more bucks at some HD players already. To the guy who says he'll have to replace all his HD-DVD movies with Blu-ray: Why the heck would you do that? You can connect both machines; your HDTV probably has loads of inputs. And if you somehow bought the only HDTV with one input, you can buy surely buy a router or an A/B switch for less than one disc would cost you. If Blu-ray wins the format war, your HD-DVD player won't magically evaporate. And in the meantime you can still buy Star Trek and Galactica and Cloverfield in HD.
I've bought niether... by KentButabi	Jan 8th, 2008 05:45:32 PM
cause I'm a double cheap fuck.
Because I hate having old technology next to my setup by Orionsangels	Jan 8th, 2008 05:48:17 PM
Okay I bought both. I have Blu-ray and HD-DVD. Blu-Ray wins. Now what? I keep that HD-DVD player in my living to watch 15 HD-DVD movies I own? No, I replace them with Blu-Ray versions and put the HD-DVD player next to my VCR in the closet.
People think because downloading HD movies now is tough by shitstorm23	Jan 8th, 2008 05:48:55 PM
that it will always be tough. Wrong. There is this thing called technology and it moves fast. If you want your movie on a disc, burn it to one. If you want huge cases filled with your collection so you can port it around, burn them all to disc. The technology isn't THAT far away. Add in Verizon FiOS and faster cable downloads and this is just this year. There will be multi-terabyte set tops that allow storage or just On-Demand movies/shows/extras in HD. I have plenty of friends that torrent movies to their Ipods and burn them to discs to watch at home, and the quality is less than DVD, but still looks pretty damn good. People like HD, but only cinefiles are REALLY into the artifacting and all that shit. I'm going from HD-DVD back to standard because the difference isn't that big and I'm on a 50" Hitachi Plasma. I never got a chance to watch Planet Earth, but I bet that would look very cool as it was filmed specifically for HD, but everything else is close enough for me. Downloads for some, little blue discs for others!
Because I hate having old technology next to my setup by Orionsangels	Jan 8th, 2008 05:48:58 PM
Okay I bought both. I have Blu-ray and HD-DVD. Blu-Ray wins. Now what? I keep that HD-DVD player in my living room to watch 15 HD-DVD movies I own? No, I replace them with Blu-Ray versions and put the HD-DVD player next to my VCR in the closet.
Blu-Rays are huge though, like a 6gb download by Orionsangels	Jan 8th, 2008 05:49:44 PM

Buy both players! They'll probably be obsolete by skywalkerfamily	Jan 8th, 2008 05:49:56 PM
in a year anyway, when people realize they don't care.
Herc, you cheap fuck by MattmanReturns	Jan 8th, 2008 05:50:53 PM
You only spent $100 on an HD player??
Yes, if you hate old technology next to your setup ... by Hercules	Jan 8th, 2008 05:54:43 PM
... you should play the $300 to replace your 15 HD-DVDs with 15 Blu-ray versions of the same title.
by nightfalls	Jan 8th, 2008 05:56:11 PM
i realy just want to walk in to this movie having seen nothing and the first time i see the monster is on screen i think they are doing a good job keeping it under wraps ,but this would be a ok monster
I also bought a $300 HD-DVD player by Hercules	Jan 8th, 2008 05:59:55 PM
But the $100 one works just as good. But you're right about me being a cheap fuck. That's the part of me waiting for Blu-rays to hit $100.
I am no CHEAP FUCK!I AM RICH! by travis-dane	Jan 8th, 2008 06:06:44 PM
that`s all!
Can't drop the bias can you Harry by ookiespookie	Jan 8th, 2008 06:06:55 PM
How many times did Warner deny going blu even days before they did. It is done, period.
Don't forget the 'nuclear' option by Mickey The Idiot	Jan 8th, 2008 06:16:09 PM
Tosh launching an HD-DVD recorder, the one thing the studios don't want out there. Of course, those who've already opted one way or another would remain fucked, but please, all you HD DVD bleaters, most of the deals basically gave you free discs in value (or close to) of the player itself. So, as long as those are movies you want to watch in HD (e.g. 300, Bourne ID, Full Metal Jacket, The Thing etc), what's the fucking problem?
This is hilarious by jae683	Jan 8th, 2008 06:21:04 PM
You really pissed 'em off this time Harry. Even the slightest bit of 'bad' news, and the Blu-ites get up in arms. you'd think it was a personal threat to them or something.
Be Nice to each other guys,it is good for your HEALTH! by travis-dane	Jan 8th, 2008 06:21:18 PM

one too few "yet"s in that last sentence... by Obscura	Jan 8th, 2008 06:22:34 PM
not that im a blueray supporter, im staying out of this battle, but sooner or late one will dominate. wish someone would just make cheap players that played both formats so this battle would be over.
one word.... by red ezra	Jan 8th, 2008 06:24:02 PM
AWESOME - um - wait - I was having a flashback
it's not THE monster... by Stone Cold Killa	Jan 8th, 2008 06:25:03 PM
it's one of the little ones. see? that way Harry isn't lying. tricky bastard. how's j.j.'s dick taste? it's even designed by the same guy who did the creature designs for the movie.
Cloverfield Monster by caerlas	Jan 8th, 2008 06:25:58 PM
I chose not to read Cumpston's review and I refuse to check out any more spoilers regarding Cloverfield. I'd prefer to watch it without knowing everything that's coming. I'll know what it looks like when I see it in theaters.
The MONSTER is a BLU-RAY disc... by travis-dane	Jan 8th, 2008 06:28:10 PM
and his drones are HD-DVD`s!You know it`s true!
Here's the real cloverfield monster by gotilk	Jan 8th, 2008 06:33:34 PM
http://tinyurl.com/355g6w
Really? We'll see... by wadi77	Jan 8th, 2008 06:39:50 PM
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/ #mytwocents Remove the space from that link.
Randie1313... by TheRealMoriarty	Jan 8th, 2008 06:46:26 PM
... where exactly have I defended the STAR TREK script piece? Hmmm? Please... cite the place I did so. Link me if you can. Or shut the fuck up. The only thing I can verify about TREK is what I personally have run. It is amazing to me how much time and energy is spent by people being fucking assholes to the writers on this site rather than actually discussing films or rumors. I guess everybody's gotta have a hobby.
no shit thats not it by ironic_name	Jan 8th, 2008 06:50:49 PM
in other news: salt tastes like salt.
Yeah, it's been a bummer reading some of these by kikuchiyoboy	Jan 8th, 2008 06:53:56 PM
TB's as of late. It became some sort of bitch fest. Hell, look at everyone choosing sides over a piece of spinning plastic. Anyway's I can't believe this film is not too far off now. I REALLY hope it's a good ride. I could care less if they show the monster or not. I just want to be at the edge of my damn seat. The Descent gave away it's creatures early on, but it was still a good creepy ride.
herc, since you are loaded, BUY US ALL BOTH, RICH FUCK! by ironic_name	Jan 8th, 2008 06:54:21 PM

Moriarty, they're jjust trying to get attention. by jae683	Jan 8th, 2008 06:54:31 PM
winy little brats that think the world revolves around them. This whole 'Harry is a HD sellout argument' is just as hilarious. Even if they're right (which I don't think they are), so what? Think Bill Hunt at digitalbits isn't getting money from Sony? It's called product endorsement. It's not illegal. It's far less reprehensible to me than the Viral marketing a lot of companies are using these days.
Ignore 'em, Moriarty. by gotilk	Jan 8th, 2008 06:56:55 PM
Most of us are with ya.
by paperthin0	Jan 8th, 2008 06:57:24 PM
we love to discuss movies and rumors. like this one - why have you guys spent so much time shilling hd dvd? that's what we're wondering. we're wondering why we get day-old information from variety and DVD reviews. we'd like it if you did post some goddamn rumors every now and then... i mean, we keep hoping there will be some. and don't put a talkback section on your site if you don't want people to out you for something.
Sometimes ya just need to be a fuckin' asshole. by Horseflesh	Jan 8th, 2008 06:57:28 PM
Like when the owner of the site mourns the loss of Anna Nicole Smith like she was important or any kind of positive force on this planet. Or when he recommends the Flintstones movie. That's a good time for the great taste of asshole!
If Paramount doesn't drop HDDVD, Spielberg may drop Paramount by Proman1984	Jan 8th, 2008 07:03:08 PM
And good thing too. Hello Universal! And aslo, WHY SHOULD we buy both?
Blu-ray hasn't won yet! by Mr. Nix	Jan 8th, 2008 07:05:59 PM
The big battle is for mainstream acceptance, and they have a looooong way to go for that. Right now, to the average consumer, it's in the "more money than brains" price range. Don't take my word for it, ask anyone other than a Sony fanboy.
What they really need to do is... by Orionsangels	Jan 8th, 2008 07:06:25 PM
Release the Wizard of Speed and Time on Blu-Ray http://tinyurl.com/35mhh3
I watched HD on demand last night by INWOsuxRED	Jan 8th, 2008 07:10:57 PM
Why should I buy a player? Why would I marry this cow when I already get the milk without buying two different players for it? I wish I had all the money back from the VHS and DVD video collections I have that I never watch. Now, I push a couple of buttons and I watch an HD movie without leaving the house and without the clutter of movie collections. Starz & Cinemax both have quite a few HD movies up onDemand right now, at no additional charge to subscribers, not to mention all the HD movies that are on all the time. Those collections will continue to grow. Virtually every new movie I've watched on cable has been in HD. No download time at all. All the new releases are available PPV on HD and then they wind up in HD on the premium channels, and that isn't going to change. I'm pretty much done buying overpriced shiny coasters, and the stupid boxes that play them. The landfills of the future will thank you for not filling them up with yet another generation of planned obsolescence.
The fat lady (no, not Harry) is backstage warming up by Chrighton	Jan 8th, 2008 07:12:06 PM
Blu-ray has nearly 75% of Hollywood locked up exclusively now, and has pretty much all of the blockbuster movies. Paramount doesn't even have Spielberg's titles under their exclusivity contract, so they don't have much to bargain with. Retailers are already dumping HDDVD products like they were infected with AIDS and consumers are returning their holiday gifts because they've been obsoleted. There's no coming back from this one.
If Toshiba were smart... by Mr. Nix	Jan 8th, 2008 07:14:27 PM
...they would adopt a "scorched Earth" policy and drop an inexpensive HD-DVD recorder on the market, that way video pirates can give the motion picture industry the bloody ass raping they deserve. PIRACY = KARMA!
Hey Proman1984 and Chrigton by jae683	Jan 8th, 2008 07:14:55 PM
Links please?
i don't care... by colinjbooth	Jan 8th, 2008 07:15:09 PM
dvd rules!
lol by colinjbooth	Jan 8th, 2008 07:16:07 PM
until i buy a bloorai thingymajimmy player
Sorry Harry, you bet wrong horse. by The Outlander	Jan 8th, 2008 07:17:04 PM
HD DVD is soon to be the Betamax of 21st Century.
The name of the movie is NOT Cloverfield by Steve_Dooku	Jan 8th, 2008 07:20:22 PM
...oh, nevermind
where's memories of murder when you need 'em by irrelevntelefant	Jan 8th, 2008 07:30:09 PM
need a little positivity in this tb
Bitches by Skin26	Jan 8th, 2008 07:37:35 PM
Spend less time and money online whining like little fuckpigs and get both Ive got the hd drive for the 360 and ive got a ps3 for blueray PLUS i get both consoles games. I couldnt give a shit who wins the war just as i couldnt give a shit what console is best,I win both ways !!! You know it makes sense
Sorry jae683 I have no links for that by Proman1984	Jan 8th, 2008 07:38:03 PM
at the moment. it's in the air
INWO, how much does cable cost you? by Zardoz	Jan 8th, 2008 07:40:34 PM
Yeah, I did the Comcast HD OnDemand for a while, too, but it got really expensive after the initial promotional deal was over. I figure it would have been about $100+/ month for all the bells and whistles, not counting pay-per-view HD, which was $6/movie. Compare that to approx. $17/ month for Netflix, which has both blu-ray and HD-DVD (for now, anyway). Bonus for OnDemand: you can record all programming to a DVD-R disc, etc., permanently via component output. (not in HD, though, but still very good quality) I got Casino Royale, 300, Apocalypto, 40 year old Virgin and countless others this way... ;-)
Cloverfield Monster *MAJOR SPOILER* by That 70s Venom	Jan 8th, 2008 07:43:35 PM
I found a top-secret pic of the genuine Cloverfield monster on a different spoiler site: *SPOILER WARNING DO NOT COPY AND PASTE LINK IF U DONT WANT TO HAVE THE MONSTER SPOILED FOR YOU* http://thephoenix.com/OutsideT heFrame/content/binary/hillary _clinton.jpg
Cloverfield of dreams by Orionsangels	Jan 8th, 2008 07:52:37 PM

But mr venom, your link says hillay_clinton.jpg by Orionsangels	Jan 8th, 2008 07:54:22 PM
You spoiled the joke. You should have gone with tinyurl.com
I ain't buying shit until my old DVD player breaks... by The Dum Guy	Jan 8th, 2008 07:57:27 PM
Fuck, I still have alot VHS(s) that I watch every now and then, I want a combo VHS/DVD/HD/Blu-ray system... and damnit, I want it to play my dad's old vinyl records and 8-tracks (nothing like the live eleven-minute version of Free Bird, with a five-minute piano solo).
anchorite:: 3:10 to Yuma had a good 'hero'... by The Dum Guy	Jan 8th, 2008 07:59:20 PM

Technology may move fast... by Johnno	Jan 8th, 2008 07:59:39 PM
But adoption of said technology? Not necessarily so... How long ahas DSL internet been out? So why can't I get high speed DSL in my area???? Blu-Ray is advanced technology... but see how long it is for a fucking standard to get adopted? See, aside from technology there are these things called economics, cost, distrbution models, replacement programs, cable internet providers putting bandwidth caps because of people who download too much, and human beings other excamples of stupidity that get in the way! Digital Downloading is probably already ready technology wise with stuff like Internet 2, better fiber optics, internet through electricity etc. etc. Doesn't mean it's feasible for release due to other shitty circumstances... this format war is precisely an example of technology taking a shitty route for adoption... and most people are even arguing for the less superior technology because of costs even when it hinders them...
anchorite by the beef	Jan 8th, 2008 08:12:51 PM
Watch the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN director's cut because it's full of great heroes. Also second the 3:10 TO YUMA recommendation from The Dum Guy. Ironically, both are available on Blu-Ray. That's how I tie in to this article.
I Just Bought my HD DVD Player a Few Weeks Ago by kevinwillis.net	Jan 8th, 2008 08:17:43 PM
Just got it working a few days ago. So, of course, Warners and probably Paramount bail. Still, it's got good upscaling, at it came with 10 titles--only one of which I was sure to buy, but still, I like the ones I've got and by the time it goes kerplop, I'll probably have watched my HD DVD titles enough to satisfy. I regret my decision a little. But only a little. I'm still looking forward to the HD DVDs I've got coming. Frighteners! Yay!
I liked 3:10 to Yuma by Orionsangels	Jan 8th, 2008 08:21:39 PM
The ending is a bummer, but still a fun Western. Especially western's by Sergio Leone. He's one of my all time favorite directors.
Oops by Orionsangels	Jan 8th, 2008 08:22:50 PM
I forgot to say, I love westerns before my second sentence. Now it seems out of place hehe.
has anyone put these up.........didn't see em by Nerv31	Jan 8th, 2008 08:24:54 PM
http://tinyurl.com/3y53h6 http://tinyurl.com/2vv5ak
ANCHORITE - I SECOND THE BEEF FOR KINGDOM OF HEAVEN by BringingSexyBack	Jan 8th, 2008 08:25:15 PM
Balian, King Baldwin, Nasir, Saladin ... these were leaders who knew the value of mercy and the cost of bloodshed are not to be wasted. Unlike the kind of scum you bow down before.
JUST GOT 3:10 TO YUMA AND VICTORIA'S SECRET CATALOG TODAY by BringingSexyBack	Jan 8th, 2008 08:26:23 PM
My mailbox was a happy camper.
HARRY NEEDS TO RETRACT THE FINANCIAL TIMES STORY by Hell's Cigarette	Jan 8th, 2008 08:26:52 PM
The Financial Times is reporting that Paramount IS poised to drop HD-DVD. See the link in the next post.
FROM THE FINANCIAL TIMES: by Hell's Cigarette	Jan 8th, 2008 08:27:43 PM
http://tinyurl.com/3yljg7
WELL IT'S ABOUT TIME SONY WON SOMETHING by BringingSexyBack	Jan 8th, 2008 08:27:52 PM
Took a while.
Seriously, about the monster- [spoiler?] by Regenhund	Jan 8th, 2008 08:28:41 PM
A few weeks back someone posted a link to a pick that showed the monster, the crab-like monster-mites and their scale compared to the statue of liberty and a normal human. The monster looked like a big shaggy whale with legs. Can anyone vouch for it's validity?
Regenhund:: that pic wasn't legit by The Dum Guy	Jan 8th, 2008 08:43:12 PM

Apple TV by cousindave	Jan 8th, 2008 08:43:17 PM
Just wait for the 1080p Apple TV - its coming - download all your movies in 1080p from iTunes. Blu Ray & HD DVD are both losers.
Check this out - Microsoft will consider going Blu-Ray by Orionsangels	Jan 8th, 2008 08:48:41 PM
If consumers demand it. http://tinyurl.com/24jx64
Microsoft Going Blu-ray by wadi77	Jan 8th, 2008 09:06:17 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article /technologyNews/idUSN085133262 0080108 Remove the space from that link.
Thanks Dum Guy by Regenhund	Jan 8th, 2008 09:11:17 PM

It would be wise for Paramount go Blu right now. by LoneGun	Jan 8th, 2008 09:14:13 PM
At least, it seems so from a business perspective. The sooner they switch to Blu-ray, the closer they'll be to cashing in on a market that's likely to boom once the format war ends. If they can opt out of their agreement with HD-DVD, why not do it sooner than later? As a matter of fact, this might be the perfect time to do it, while much of the tech media attention is on Warners. Who could blame Paramount for switching to Blu-ray, right now?
wadi77 by jdfincola	Jan 8th, 2008 09:17:21 PM
Don't state speculation as fact. The article you posted is entirely speculation. MS has said if consumers demand blu-ray they will consider going in that direction. MS going blu requires two separate acts, it is no a done deal. You are feeding people misinformation.
JLA movie DELAYED (maybe FOREVER) by Vesuvio	Jan 8th, 2008 09:18:20 PM
Can I get an AMEN for that??? http://tinyurl.com/39v9lq ... “Justice League is indeed in danger of not starting production on time and maybe even getting scrapped altogether” is what a studio source told the IESB last week. "The concerns are that the script is not ready to go in front of cameras, and also that the budget is getting a bit out of control, the WGA strike has proven to be Kryptonite to Superman and friends."
jdfincola by wadi77	Jan 8th, 2008 09:21:36 PM
I post the link, not speculation. It's up to you guys to decide. Yeah, the post title may be misleading though.
Oh yeah Harry? Then I guess you haven't seen the concept sketch by Sith Witch	Jan 8th, 2008 09:38:12 PM
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/ showthread.php?t=686538 So you see, the monster HAS been online for weeks.
Whale crossed with a crab = AWFUL. by Rev. Slappy	Jan 8th, 2008 09:48:09 PM
The possible Cloverfield monster artwork I saw looked like a whale crossed with a crab. I looked ridiculous -- beyond terrible. I hope and pray it's a fake.
Harry, I can't WAIT for the egg to be on your face. by polyh3dron	Jan 8th, 2008 10:01:31 PM
Warner denied they were going Blu just days before they announced doing just that. Paramount won't announce it until they are good and ready.
So Paramount's not dropping HD-DVD... by ZoeFan	Jan 8th, 2008 10:11:26 PM
This from the same guy who said the famous words, "I choose HD-DVD and here's why...". Harry, you're great but stick to what you know. Becuase you sure don't know the home movie market at all. This includes the format war to the lackluster projector you bought. Enjoy the image degradation that's common with LCD projectors. This should kick in within a year based on how much I believe you'll use it. This probably comes off mean, but it's the truth.
Golden Globes by That 70s Venom	Jan 8th, 2008 10:20:57 PM
Honestly, who gives a fuck about the Golden Globes? They can suck my Golden Globes. Besides, the Oscars is where it's at. As long as they don't cancel the Oscars, we're good to go.
Sorry, but Financial Times > AICN by robogeek.com	Jan 8th, 2008 10:21:28 PM
Paramount is indeed jumping ship from HD-DVD and going Blu-Ray -- they just weren't ready to make it official today. But it's just a matter of time before they do.
is this it? by JimmyJoe RedSky	Jan 8th, 2008 10:31:24 PM
http://wayangtopia.com/wp-cont ent/uploads/2007/09/cloverfiel d-monster-picture.jpg
here it is... by JimmyJoe RedSky	Jan 8th, 2008 10:33:51 PM
http://www.horror-movies.ca/ho rror_9299.html
Paramount to Blu_Ray by Tigger11	Jan 8th, 2008 10:45:14 PM
Harry stop shilling for HD-DVD, its beneath you. FN is just reporting what everyone is saying at CES and which Paramount press release isnt denying. If Parmount is gained by Blu-Ray this lost cause because even more lost for Toshiba's failed format.
The best cloverfield ads hit youtube on the 17th by ThePilgrim	Jan 8th, 2008 10:55:49 PM
They will feature homemade clips from cellphones and camera's from other people. Showing more illusive shots of the monster and the rampage in newyork, and so on. They might even sneek a few fake news clips on networks like MTV and G4. The end of the viral campain will be intense and really help to sell it as something that happened. It will be the closest amn thing this generation gets to a radio broadcast of WOW. Just you wait and see.
The Cloverfield monster... by otm shank	Jan 8th, 2008 10:55:57 PM
will look like whatever each person formulates in their mind. Since the camera will be jerking around to much for any of us to get a descent look at it.
Has the Dragster rumors been shot down yet? by Shermdawg	Jan 8th, 2008 11:10:39 PM
Kept hearing it was a giant lobster with a dragon head.
Financial Times didn't say that. by staticneuron	Jan 8th, 2008 11:15:18 PM
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/dc40 9afa-bd75-11dc-b7e6-0000779fd2 ac.html "However, Paramount, which is owned by Viacom, is understood to have a clause in its contract with the HD DVD camp that would allow it to switch sides in the event of Warner Bros backing Blu-ray, according to people familiar with the situation." They didn't say they would or did just that paramount has the ability to and warners choice set them up for it. Shortly after the news dropped Highdefdigest was able to get a straight response from Paramount. Even after all this is said, all this seems to be fueled by speculation. I cannot see why Paramount would not decide to abandon the sinking ship but my opinions shouldn't be comfirmed as fact. People have done a horrible job of keeping this rumor as a rumor.
If your "sources" kick ass Harry why... by Lance2769	Jan 8th, 2008 11:21:10 PM
...didn't your kick ass sources warn you that buying all those HD-DVDs-soon to be drink coasters, was not the brightest thing to do. Get new sources...oh, and by the way, your endorsement of the movie 'Hatchet' sucked ass. That had to be one of the worst movies ever made. I'll think twice next time I buy into any one of your reviews of anything including the future of home video.
It's a gigantic mutant whale by Prof. Pop-Cult	Jan 8th, 2008 11:21:23 PM
I'm betting that concept drawing is the real deal. It also fits thematically with this movie: Mankind accidentally created a mutant species of humpback whale from decades of polluting the oceans and nuclear testing. The Japanese oil rig in the newsclips messed around with something in the ocean and pissed off one of these mutant whales, which has risen and will take vengeance on mankind (starting with NYC).
IT'S NOT VOLTRON by BringingSexyBack	Jan 8th, 2008 11:25:32 PM
but there's a giant cloud approaching at the end of the movie, and there's a Voltron-like sillouette inside ...
Digital Downloads by weati	Jan 8th, 2008 11:26:29 PM
The cocksucker Devin Fagaci over at Chud is talking about how digital downloads are going to take over. MP3s took off because they are small. Good 1080P video is going to be a huge around 40 GB download. It's atleast 10 years down the line when quite a few people start having gigabit connections before digital movie downloads will start to be a viable way to watch HD movies. Optical Media for movies is here to stay. Cloverfield getting released on HD-DVD not a chance. There's only going to be Blu and DVD when Cloverfield gets a video release. Just got done watching Shoot'em Up on Blu. The detail was soul-shattering.
SUPERMAN: THE MOVIE GOING TO BLU-RAY? by BringingSexyBack	Jan 8th, 2008 11:28:12 PM
Game, Set, Match: Blu-Ray.
I LIKE PHYSICAL MEDIA by BringingSexyBack	Jan 8th, 2008 11:30:05 PM
But if I can DL a movie and burn it to disc, then I'd prefer that to buying pre-packaged.
If I had the bandwidth by weati	Jan 8th, 2008 11:46:43 PM
If I could download a 1080P movie with lossless audio and burn it to a disc it would rule. With my 3 megabit connection it would take a week to download.
CHUD by RAVENL0RD	Jan 8th, 2008 11:47:54 PM
You know what? I read their site for movie news, but they are the most unlikable group of writers on the internet. At least Harry comes across as a genuine nice guy.
the monster in cloverfield is the island by ThePilgrim	Jan 9th, 2008 12:07:25 AM
theres real good reason to belive that the color we see behind the building is smoke- and not the monster- but to the far left you can see the tentical. people focus on the smoke. It's a large 2000 leages under the sea tenical. someone summed up a great deal of this info after noticing the wake in the ocen leaving liberty and going unbrpken into battery park. Imagine if you will that all of newyork is one ginat monster- maybe a squid like creature with the city resting on it's back and it awakens.
I'm Going To Have Sex With A Midget!!! by ZeroCorpse	Jan 9th, 2008 12:27:28 AM
Well. . . Not really, but it DID get your attention, didn't it? That's not to say I wouldn't fuck a midget. I would. Bridget the Midget (porn star) is actually kind of cute, and the little person on Boston Legal was definitely kind of hot, so there's something you all didn't know about and Oh Gawd why am I still talking? My whole point here was to get your attention to say that we don't WANT to see the Cloverfield monster yet. Anybody who posts pictures of it is a colossal douchebag. Half of the fun of this one is the suspense. Don't kill it, like the idiots who designed half of the modern "Planet of the Apes" VHS/DVD cover art as Charleton Heston kneeling in front of the Statue of Liberty. Oh, yes-- Make the cover to the movie the BIG REVEAL, and pretend that there's nobody out there who isn't seeing it for the first time, you twats! Spoil the fucking movie on the box art? Are you STUPID? Why not just put a picture of Bruce Willis' bloody corpse on the cover of "The Sixth Sense"? Why not just put the half-and-half split-image face of Pitt and Norton on the cover of "Fight Club" with the subtitle, "They're the same dude!" FUCKERS!!!! Oh, wait, I'm off on a tangent. That's what I get for thinking about fucking dwarfs and using cheap tricks to get peoples' attention... Wait... What was I saying? Oh, yeah-- Blu-Ray won. I'm not buying a movie player that doesn't have the support of the majority of the major studios. That's just stupid. I liked HD-DVD more, but I'm going where the movies are-- I'm a movie fan, and I really don't care which one wins at this point, as long as I gets ta watch me sum moviez. Dig? Ima hafta cut down on the sugar late at night.
oh man zerocorpse! by Cory849	Jan 9th, 2008 12:44:38 AM
yo just ruined fight club, sixth sense and planet of the apes for me dude! whatever, i forgie you. just dont tell me what happens in Passion of the Christ. the dude with the thorny hat has me all intrigued!
I'm only interested if it's Willow 2 by Spifftacular Squirrel Girl	Jan 9th, 2008 12:47:22 AM
And there's a Sixth Sense cover with a bloody Bruce Willis on it? Blech. Better yet, why not a Crying Game cover with a big penis on it?
Save up by TerryMalloy	Jan 9th, 2008 01:04:52 AM
those food stamps Xiphos.
Paramount's official denial!! by Anis	Jan 9th, 2008 01:05:37 AM
Looks like all the jumping down AICN's throat was unwarranted: http://tinyurl.com/2lxrgy Good thing the Talkback allows plenty of room for apologies. Not that I care about that, but as an HDDVD owner, I just exhaled a tiny sigh of relief at this momentary reprieve.
See? No one knows about Cloverfield by Emperor_was_a_jerk	Jan 9th, 2008 01:21:58 AM
I said it before in another talk back and here I say it again. No one knows anything (spoiler-ish) about Cloverfield. Sure sure... "It's just a lame monster movie. There is nothing to know." or "It's all out there on the 'net". Really? Where? Show me. If there is "nothing to know" then show me a picture of the monster. Show me a detailed outline of the story. I'm telling you, this movie has had the BEST "security" of any movie ever. The 'net was plastered with pictures of Anakin all burned up a freakin' YEAR before ROTS. Less than two weeks before Cloverfield opens, and no one has even seen the monster and written a detailed description. Isn't that odd?
Oh, and as far as B-R vs HDDVD goes... by Emperor_was_a_jerk	Jan 9th, 2008 01:25:56 AM
a year or two from now when we can download (legally) HD quality versions of movies directly to a hard drive hooked up to our 50" HD TVs for less than the cost of a useless, bulky disk and case- we will all look back and laugh about this. Really kids, hard copies of digital media is SO 2007.
Emperor by MC-909	Jan 9th, 2008 01:27:08 AM
It's a whale. Trust me.
I have no proof... by MC-909	Jan 9th, 2008 01:29:59 AM
...but I am certain beyond a shadow of a doubt that it's a whale.
Who do you respect... by Tourist	Jan 9th, 2008 01:32:50 AM
...In Yuma? The violent, sadistic thief or the impotent failure? I don't know what film you guys saw. Great films don't have to be about pillars of moral virtue. In fact, it can be hard to find anything dramatic in the tale of ordinary goodness. I mean, Lawrence liked little boys and masochism and was a stubborn delusional asshole. Which is also why his achievements make for such fascinating cinema. I guess I liked and respected McCandliss(Spelling?) in Into The Wild, even if you can't really fully get behind someone that naive or short sighted. But at least he put his money where his mouth was and didn't have to "conquer" people to achieve his ends. For a better western with some actual heroes in it, you probally already checked out Open Range. Although I was no great fan of the film (others definately were this year) you could put forth Crowe in American Gangster. He stuck by his principles come thick or thin.
MC-909 by Emperor_was_a_jerk	Jan 9th, 2008 01:43:34 AM
Remember what Ronald Reagan said? "Trust but verify". A lot of people SAY what the monster is, or what the movie is about but no one SHOWS or PROVES that they know. I actually don't want to know anything, I just find it interesting that for some odd reason, this movie is the best kept secret ever in the history of secrets. Hell, Harry saw the EPII in its entirety weeks/months before it was released, but no one has a freakin' picture of a monster from a low budget movie that comes out in two weeks?
Anis by wadi77	Jan 9th, 2008 01:51:15 AM
Where were you? Warner denied the same thing 2 days before they went Blu-ray exclusive.
understood emperor by MC-909	Jan 9th, 2008 02:05:44 AM
But it IS a whale.
does anyone really care if the monster is seen early... by JimmyJoe RedSky	Jan 9th, 2008 02:15:28 AM
i dont - i want to see it now - ill still see the dumb movie - they dont make enough monster-loose-in-city movies - 'the host' was cool - i bet this is a mutant whale like that drawing - nice idea - it grew legs and can walk - theyre mamals after all - and i still buy dvds - im not ready to go hd yet - $ - i just got the 4 disc blade runner dvd - i almost got the gift set - but my bro told me to wait til im hd ready - the hd and bluray gift sets are only 10 bucks more than the standard version - too many choices - i was happiest when there were just dvds and vhs - as for the future - i dont know anyone that is going to be downloading hd media in record times to a hd dream system that can be burned/saved in 2 years time - standard dvds still look really good to me on my old 100 pound sony wega flat screen - but im also blind in one eye - damn technology - changing faster than most people can keep up
Right there with ya Dum Guy by ScienceMan	Jan 9th, 2008 03:16:35 AM
I really could give two shits which format wins. My Tv has a built in DVD player, my PS3 plays DVDs but I don't watch them on it, my laptop plays DVDs, my wife's laptop plays DVDs, our home PC plays DVDs. Jeez, I've never counted them all before now... I've got 5 DVD-playable devices in my household. Ten years ago I was in college and still wasn't using the internet or email until I graduated and bought a WebTV in 1998. Movies are fun. They are nice to watch. But am I the only one who doesn't really care thet much about the format? I too cherish the VHS collection I amassed as a youngster in the 80s. Most of them don't work anymore, but still, there is some charm in watching a twenty-year old VHS of Wrath of Khan, warts and all. I love technology and the rapidly increasing pace thereof, don't get me wrong, I'm no Luddite. I guess just taking the longview, why get all worked up over HD or Blu-ray? Both will be laughably obsolete in 10 years, when we find ourselves arguing over Panasonic's 3l3ctric 3D Boogaloo format versus IBMicrosoft's "My NoseTV" Olfact-o-vision. Besides, life is short. I decided long ago to only watch Die Hard on Christmas Eve, new family tradition. I'll only re-watch a movie if it's really damn good. Don't waste time collecting movies you've already seen. Life is ridiculously too short for that.
Is this the site... by kuldan	Jan 9th, 2008 03:39:16 AM
...where I can buy my groceries online? Any thoughts?
JJ Abrams said the US doesn't... by Ghostball	Jan 9th, 2008 04:03:08 AM
have its own mythic movie monster - but surely the ALIEN is the most iconic movie monster ever?
Rodo, you sick bastard... by Vamp-AICNchat	Jan 9th, 2008 04:13:40 AM
...I was expecting the Cloverfield monster, NOT two chicks with dicks at it!!!! BEWARE TALKBACKERS OF RODO'S LINKS ---BAN THE ASSHOLE
In ireland Broadband is a complete sham by emeraldboy	Jan 9th, 2008 04:27:01 AM
and utter shambles. Its there but you cant get it. we are told constanly that it is being rolled. out. utter bollox.
People clearly... by Tourist	Jan 9th, 2008 04:56:02 AM
...Take form over content. I would rather watch a great film on VHS, while many, many others on these talk backs could give two shits about the film itself, just the presentation. Witness them slavishly drooling over such masterpieces as Spider-Man 3, Yuma and Shoot Em Up, and how gloriously detailed they are. Sure, it would be NICE to see every film on a giant ass TV in crystal clear quality, but it would be far nicer to see them at the cinema. But in the end, it doesn't really matter. I just watched Pompoko and Manderlay on my shitty PC screen, and since the sound and picture are crips, clean and "Correct", the fact that they were great films had me completely forgetting that the blacks might have been marginally better on a bigger TV with a HD Disc. The improvement just isn't big enough to get me interested. And I still can't wait for downloads. Owning and storing physical media is just one giant pain in the ass, especially since the rewatch value isn't that high on most films. Of course, Australian broadband is ass play, sadly.
Digial downloads taking over? by methosb	Jan 9th, 2008 05:17:22 AM
I don't understand these people who believe that soon all content will be digital and hard formats will die out. What planet do you people live on. Only a small amount of countries have the internet infrastructure to support that. Even in the developed countries only a small amount of countries could handle it. Heck here in Australia half the population can't even get broadband and are still on dialup. Even if everyone could get broadband here 99% of people would blow their download limits (yes we still have them) with one movie. Hard formats are here to stay for a long long time. Until every country has fibre to every house and an unlimited amount of international bandwidth hard formats are going nowhere.
Indy 4 Being Prepped for Blu-ray! by wadi77	Jan 9th, 2008 05:32:23 AM
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?i d=846 And Indy is from Paramount! We might see the Indy trilogy on Blu-ray soon!
Screw the news about cloverfield by emeraldboy	Jan 9th, 2008 05:41:47 AM
DEL TORO SAID HE WANTS TO DO HARRY POTTER AND DEATHLY HALLOWS!!!!!!!!
another creature design by Samplelord	Jan 9th, 2008 05:44:29 AM
found this on the net...claims to be fan art but looks more like prduction design...check it http://www.flickr.com/photos/v idgamer838/1399267319/
It aint news by oweny	Jan 9th, 2008 06:07:41 AM
Thanks for telling us that you realised something isnt worth telling us. Bandwidth well spent!
and yes by Samplelord	Jan 9th, 2008 06:08:24 AM
The "fan" design is based on a whale...complete with parasitic like crab creatures Spiolers..?If you did not see the twist for flicks like 6th Sense,Fight Club,PLanet o Apes within the first 25min...than you were sleeping. I read all movie spoilers on every site since original films are a thing in the past...the only "surprise" I have with flicks these days is if the movie is good...which is rare
Somebody told me that LASERDISC is the way to go! by DerLanghaarige	Jan 9th, 2008 06:09:28 AM
What do you think?
You know what... by DuncanHines	Jan 9th, 2008 06:26:51 AM
All this Cloverfield Monster hype... Just for once, let's go in without a spoiler. I want this thing to terrify me and blow my mind. Larger than life. A still, or a 4x6 video on my computer will be poop.
people here by emeraldboy	Jan 9th, 2008 06:52:30 AM
are so impatient. They want want want to know what the monster looks like. that is one of the downsides to the net. studios should not be fuelling the internet. anyone who is caught leaking to the studio stuff to the net should be fired. Remember lost S3 finale debacle. it was still a great ending. fantastic. I did not want to hear about it plastered all over the net. I want to enjoy this movie. I dont want this movie, cloverfield to be ruined by it being revealed all over the net.
Actually, by Tourist	Jan 9th, 2008 07:04:00 AM
In other countries, Downloading movies isn't the hassle it is in Australia. We are fucking worse than NZ when it comes to broadband service. I don't believe it will be long. I can't fucking buy hard media for music anymore. Its just a waste of time, money and space. I really hate that they haven't got downloaded movies yet. It would open up a HUGE library of choice, that is just clearly lacking in the retail and rental side of media. There is literally hundreds to thousands of movies I would like to watch, that are available all over the world, except at retail stores and video rental chains in Sydney. If I jump online, I can order them via mail from American sites, or even Aussie sites, but to be able to just click and receive like I do with music...Damn.
Rob's NYC Going Away Party by John L Raiser	Jan 9th, 2008 07:28:27 AM
Anyone signing up to go?
Two and one-half words for Cloverfield by Abominable Snowcone	Jan 9th, 2008 07:38:12 AM
Rambo. John J.
if that's not the cloverfield monster... by zom-bot.com	Jan 9th, 2008 08:12:46 AM
then that creature artist really needs to branch out. everything we've seen of his is mustard yellow, scaly and has a big three clawed hand.
MANCRABMEATPIGBEAR IS UNDECIDED ABOUT BLU-RAY, HERE'S WHY ..., by BringingSexyBack	Jan 9th, 2008 08:35:50 AM
It's waiting for the company making his bio-pic to choose first.
I hope that's not the monster by bingo the clown	Jan 9th, 2008 08:45:15 AM
It has a disturbing lack of tentacles.
That Movieweb monster is pretty lame by Knobules	Jan 9th, 2008 08:56:23 AM
Its borderline Matt Broderick Godzilla lame.
by Evil Lincoln	Jan 9th, 2008 08:57:28 AM

Cheap Fucks?! by Evil Lincoln	Jan 9th, 2008 08:58:37 AM
Sorry, I gotta eat!
If M$ goes Blu-Ray, how about Xbox? by TruPhan	Jan 9th, 2008 09:13:34 AM
Will it follow suite? I would love it if the next gen for Xboxes started including either Blu-ray or, if M$ wants to keep fighting (what appears) the impending death of HD-DVD, includes that. But I imagine it's still two years too soon to speculate on such a matter.
Sly is coming... by Abominable Snowcone	Jan 9th, 2008 09:16:54 AM
...and now, so am I. Got kleenex?
The monster.. by pumaman	Jan 9th, 2008 09:38:37 AM
If that toy IS the Monster, then so what ? I mean what the fuck are we expecting ? How cool does it really have to be to please the whining asswipes ? I want to see designs by every fucker that has been crying about the monster being crap , then we'll see how easy it is to make something appeal to the masses. Whatever it is, it'll never be good enough will it. Jeeez..
Paramount HD DVD by joe.gillis	Jan 9th, 2008 09:43:36 AM
The FT article from yesterday clearly state Paramount is considering dropping HD and has an exculpatory clause stating that if WB's drops HD then SKG and Paramount may do so w/o penalty. This is the article http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/dc40 9afa-bd75-11dc-b7e6-0000779fd2 ac.html
Try this link by The Central Scrutinizer	Jan 9th, 2008 09:51:49 AM
I don't know if this is real or not... http://aycu14.webshots.com/ima ge/34893/2001230418515999011_r s.jpg
I think anchorite doesnt like BSB. by travis-dane	Jan 9th, 2008 10:17:37 AM
Thats not good for your health!Fear the Gun-Kata Mr.anchorite.
HD DVD vs. Blu Ray: Requiem by jackalcack	Jan 9th, 2008 10:20:53 AM

Cthulhu vs. ManBearPig vs. Voltron:Requiem:For A Dream by turketron	Jan 9th, 2008 10:47:49 AM
It would be the ultimate movie. Drugs, monsters, and giant fuck you robots.
The thing about spoilers..... by Darth Macchio	Jan 9th, 2008 10:53:23 AM
When 'Terminator 2' came out...I specifically avoided all spoilers. I don't watch a lot of "regular" (commercial) TV so I don't see many trailer/teaser commercials. Yes, my gf at the time thought I was mental in the theater with my eyes closed, hands over my ears, and making noise so I couldn't hear any of the trailer. My point is this: I was probably one of only a handful of people who had no idea whatsoever that Arnie was a good guy. I truly did not know that Robert Patrick was playing a "bad" terminator and not someone like the Reese character sent to help Conner; which apparently is a plot device in the story but given away in the first trailers making it redundant. So story-wise, John Conner, didn't know but the audience did as they saw the trailers. I, like John, also didn't know and that made it a much more enjoyable experience for me. That clinched the spoiler argument for me from that point forward. Also...is this 'Del Toro expressing interest in directing the last Potter film' rumor true?
HD-DVD one way or another is dead.... by dogmanx23	Jan 9th, 2008 11:01:27 AM
True or not Paramount and Universal will soon change they have too because people will demand it. All i know is this I want Cloverfield on Blu Ray :)
Monster = deformed guy from Basket Case by Baron Karza	Jan 9th, 2008 11:04:59 AM
Eh Eh?
Thanks for the spoiler in the subject, anchorite. by IAmJack'sUserID	Jan 9th, 2008 11:06:36 AM
I guess that makes me like BSB by default.
In 2 Days, Paramount and Universal go Blu by Supermans	Jan 9th, 2008 11:08:14 AM
In 2 Days, Paramount and Universal go Blu.. Just giving all of you a heads up into some insider information...
yeah paramount is stayign with hd-dvd.... by joevfx	Jan 9th, 2008 11:21:03 AM
just like Warner is staying nuetral... hha gimme a beak, do you guys really not know about the corprate bull c$@%?
Part of the problem by emeraldboy	Jan 9th, 2008 11:22:45 AM
Is that people like dick Doyle of Irma are in complete denial and stand over the burning buildings that are music shops. they are crumbling all over the place. CDS are too expensive, so people, download music from wherever they can and for some reason IRma and others have a problem about people downloading music people dont want to pay a fortune downloading music so they do it for free. except they cant cause thats ileagle. Dick Doyle and his ilk go after to people who download music for free. and jail them. and fine them 200,000. Dick Doyle has said that people who download music are giving money to terrorists.
All the Cloverfield lobster cares about is butter sauce. by Stuntcock Mike	Jan 9th, 2008 11:32:41 AM
Extra garlic
Found! The real Cloverfield monster image! by biggles2_22	Jan 9th, 2008 11:34:43 AM
http://john cuneo.com/people/peo_knowles.j pg
Of course Paramount are going to swear blind to Harry that they by Brendon	Jan 9th, 2008 11:42:37 AM
And anyway, even if they admitted to him that they were... would he tell us anyway? I don't think so. Not if they asked him not to. The amount of things Knowles knows but doesn't publish here is insane.
JJ Abrams on Kevin and Bean radio show tomorrow! by Pennsy	Jan 9th, 2008 11:53:30 AM
Just wanted to give a heads-up; it was announced about 5 minutes ago.
KROQ, that is... by Pennsy	Jan 9th, 2008 11:54:20 AM
And you can listen live on their website as well, kroq.com
Is it true how "Blu-ray" got the name? by JDanielP	Jan 9th, 2008 11:56:09 AM
Is it true that some dude named Ray in R&D was receiving oral sex...from a co-worker, while on the clock? C'mon, is it true? Is it really how Blu-ray got the name? (heh,heh)
Mr Saxon by ArcadianDS	Jan 9th, 2008 11:59:12 AM
Jimmy Norton called. He wants his bit back. He also said that you were a talentless, bit-stealing hack wh-ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzz zzzz
Cloverfield monster - we know what it is already by finky089	Jan 9th, 2008 12:10:37 PM
5 lions connect to form one giant fighting machine!! Seriously, it's a giant ill-tempered whale
Cloverfield: Think Cthlulu meets Moby Dick by finky089	Jan 9th, 2008 12:11:13 PM
Only there's no Ahab in this one.
XBOX 360 plays HD-DVD, upscaled DVD, & Blu-ray!!! by JDanielP	Jan 9th, 2008 12:14:49 PM
Holy crap!!!! Somebody get us a link!!!
It's just a big whale-crab... by Rickey Henderson	Jan 9th, 2008 12:34:28 PM
This movie had me so much more excited back when I thought it was cthulu. Now? Not so much.
Sorry, but Paramount is dropping HDDVD in a few... by jfp2007	Jan 9th, 2008 12:37:05 PM
I don't care what your source says, Harry. They have an escape clause and will execute it in a few short months. The combination of this and all the other firms switching to Bluray, as well as the lack of any HDDVD players being sold in electronics stores spells doom for the format by Summer.
Wish it were going to be cthulu by finky089	Jan 9th, 2008 12:39:16 PM
Things I'd settle for besides cthulu: HArry Knowles Elvis Kathy Bates Big, bald Britney Spears
HD-DVD dead by 7Cal	Jan 9th, 2008 12:42:44 PM
Harry I like the site, but can't say you've been very good when it comes to the technical and business dealings of the format war. The "here's why..." portion of your HD-DVD choice column was a joke, and everyone who knows anything about the war knows it. The FT article states that Paramount does have an 'out' in their contract to allow them to go Blu-ray if Warner's goes Blu-ray. That is now the case. That is the 'fact' part of the article. The 'speculation' part suggests Paramount will be dropping HD-DVD soon to go Blu-ray. Is that really that unreasonable? Where are your sources? What official statements? I own both formats so don't care too much one way or the other, I just want one victor. But the one-sided slant you give just seems out of left field, so you'll get no benefit of the doubt from me on this one. Paramount will at least announce support for both formats by the end of the month, if not drop HD-DVD all together.
seriously by ClockWorker	Jan 9th, 2008 12:46:01 PM
fuck cloverfield. I've never seen hype like this, its all because of that first teaser you're all such sheep that are very easily manipulated.
This site spoiled Fight Club for me by GrandMuffTarkin	Jan 9th, 2008 12:46:03 PM
I remember some asshole typed "Brad Pitt is Ed Norton's imagination" in the subject line. I wanted to put my fist through my monitor.
there's been nothing good on here all week by ClockWorker	Jan 9th, 2008 12:47:22 PM

Hey, Moriarty by WhereNoManHasGoneBefore	Jan 9th, 2008 12:55:27 PM
Moriarty... You said, and I quote, "It is amazing to me how much time and energy is spent by people being fucking assholes to the writers on this site". Well, I have an answer for you. Hercules called people "cheap fucks" for not buying both HD-DVD players and Blu-Ray players, then you chimed in with your potty-languague-filled post. YOU GUYS SET THE TONE ON THESE MESSAGE BOARDS. If you moderated the forms and deleted the expletive-filled messages of the average 13-year-old on this site, and if you guys held yourselves to a more respectable standard, then maybe the rest of the posters would act like adults. Hmmm???
huh? by 5 by 5	Jan 9th, 2008 12:56:10 PM
So this is Harry's "reliable industry source's" vs. Digital Bit's "reliable industry sources"? This contradictory information is not helpful at all. Please someone make an attempt to explain their position on this.
There's nothing good anywhere on the internet by Rickey Henderson	Jan 9th, 2008 12:57:02 PM
am I nuts, or is there just nothing interesting out there anymore? No good baseball news, no movie news, no tech news, just the same old same old.... bleh.
GrandMuffTarkin by Fount of Useless Info	Jan 9th, 2008 01:01:26 PM
He's what? Thanks for ruining it for me, pal.
Hey, WhereNoManHasGoneBefore by Rickey Henderson	Jan 9th, 2008 01:03:20 PM
Vulgarity alone doesn't make comments worth deleting. Being mean spirited, derisive, and spiteful however does.
Rickey Henderson:: Fucking A'! You are right... by The Dum Guy	Jan 9th, 2008 01:06:58 PM
Curse words are like extra exclamation points, if done right they enhance the prose.
Hey, Hercules by WhereNoManHasGoneBefore	Jan 9th, 2008 01:11:07 PM
Hercules... it seems that your answer to the format war, and all of your fans on this site, is to "Buy both, you cheap fucks!" Well, I have many reasons why I won't "buy both". And I'm NOT a "cheap fuck". (1) I don't want to reward those greedy bastards in Hollywood by putting money into the pockets of both the Blu-Ray "camp" and the HD-DVD "camp". I will NOT reward them for their greedy arrogance and unwillingness to compromise. (2) Unlike you, it seems, I don't have endless reams of cash. I'm trying to save up for my wedding in July and I recently went back to school to finish my degree. And spending $400-800 on two HD players is not something I can justify or truly afford right now. Yes, I have an HD (720p) digital projector, but it cost me nearly $1,000. I don't have money to burn on TWO HD players, at least one of which will be obsolete in a year or two at most. (3) All of you early adopters are getting to deal with the headaches of firmware updates, discs that are unplayable, etc., etc. Once the hardware manufacturers figure out what the hell they are doing, the prices on the players will be cheaper anyway. (4) So far, they haven't released anything I'm dying to buy on DVD, no "must haves" like the "Lord of the Rings" or "Star Wars" or Lawrence of Arabia". A few titles, "Blade Runner", "Planet Earth", "Heroes" & "Galactica" seasons one, have been tempting... but nothing to knock my socks off. The studios are clearly waiting for the format war to be over before bringing out the big guns. I'm not going to spend hundreds for a high def player so I can watch "National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation" and "Under Seige" in hi-def. Ughhhh.
WhereNoManHasGoneBefore... by 5 by 5	Jan 9th, 2008 01:12:55 PM
...still has a good point about controlling the tone here. I agree that curse words alone are not a bad thing.
Indeed, respect the f-bomb by Rickey Henderson	Jan 9th, 2008 01:19:23 PM
some of the funniest things I've read on AICN contain a plethora of vulgar words. You've got to balence the wit with the cursing, see? What I take issue with is people being complete schmucks to each other here for no apparent reason whatsoever. It's bad for the psyche to read such ill will and malice day in & day out, ya know?
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Movieweb does not have the CLOVERFIELD Monster and Paramount is not dumping HD DVD - Financial Times