ooo deals with time travel......nice wee nugget there

Go watch some Buffy or Angel, 24 or Alias.

Don't create some *redshirt* hero or villain just for cannon fodder,

Grow some, kill off Sylar and make a new villain.

Should have shot him dead in the alley at the moment of his greatest triumph.

Have him taken down by a junky for the rig and what's in his pockets.

I said it on the otehr one but you couldnt see it so congratulations pb..well done.....now how can we let node, rb and the others(no pun intended)know

I actually wrote the powers at AICN last week and asked them to clean the double posts like they used to. Funny thing is even though it only shows the first 10,000 posts, the top talkbacks keeps counting.

Okay, so if we are here now...

As Kate and Sawyer journey back to the main island with Karl, who is exhibiting effects of the brainwashing video, they argue over whether to go back and save Jack. On Hydra island, as Juliet's fate rests in his hands and a power struggle within the Others ensues, Jack recollects the time he spent in Phuket, Thailand and his relationship with Achara, a mysterious tattoo artist.

Writer: Elizabeth Sarnoff, Christina M. Kim, Director: Paris Barclay

I've bookmarked this too, let's keep it going until Jan.31 (or later, for our overseas friends!)

I do miss seeing the infamous "I'm Sick of Lying" at the top of the page. Whenever I see that line in the actual show I suddenly forget its not just the name of the talkback...
Does anyone use the forums on this site? I never check...

Kinda like a viking funeral, isn't it?

Sticker on packaging says,"2 exclusive Blu-ray Features".

They are as follows:

ACCESS GRANTED: Rethink what you know about the show with an interactive panel that unlocks answers to your most pressing LOST questions.

BLU-PRINTS: Take a guided tour of the island through never-before-seen blu-prints.

I guess I really need to get off my duff and pop this set in my PS3. All I did today was play around with my new Garmin eTrex GPS tracker. A friend of mine, who gave it to me for Christmas, thinks I should go 'Geo-cashing' with it. Oh boy. Running around the planet with a GPS tracker and a shovel looking for hidden stuff. "No Ma'am, don't call the police! I'm just Geo-cashing. In your garden. Um, sorry?"

Soon it will sink below the water and give it's final hiss as the flames go out.

*sniff*

7th place, 67 posts now on "I'm Sick!!"...good bye, you magnificent bastard. You dared to reach for the stars, and touched them.

Geocaching is an outdoor treasure-hunting game in which the participants use a Global Positioning System (GPS) receiver or other navigational techniques to hide and seek containers (called "geocaches" or "caches") anywhere in the world. A typical cache is a small waterproof container containing a logbook and "treasure," usually toys or trinkets of little value. Today, well over 480,000 geocaches are registered on various websites devoted to the sport. Geocaches are currently placed in over 100 countries around the world and on all seven continents, including Antarctica.

Have to get up away from the keyboard to try it! I'm just giving you a hard time - don't take me too seriously!

I guess you could say it's like a scavenger hunt, but with the internet and GPS satellites and a GPS receiver and possibly a shovel.

And depending on where someone's hidden something, possible tresspassing! At least, for me, that's in the back of my mind.

Hey theBigE. Where did you get that name? Ever been on a really big boat?

I had forgotten they took Jack to Sawyer's cage.

I thought the question and answer session between Kate and Karl was interesting. Then Karl goes off on a tangent aboutno moon and making up names for the constelations. And Sawyer's response was, "Y'all have back yards?" Classic.

Isabel was a creepy sherrif. More at the cage than during interrogation.

You know I usually like Asian women, but Bai Ling does nothing for me.

Sawyer has a very interesting bedside manor. Walk up, roll your eyes and hit him. Call him Bobby to boot. And the scenes with him and Kate were spot on. You could see she "hated" him. And late in the episode when he has her face that is priceless.

I do love the scenes with Ben and Jack. Bedside manor. Cutting deals. And I can almost never tell when the bugged eyed SOB is lying. Juliet doesn't care about you Jack may come back to surprise us all.

He walks amongst us, but he is not one of us. That's what the tatoos say, but it's not what they mean. So what do you think they mean. In the context of this show that could mean mostly anything. It could be what Bai Ling said. It could be he's better than we are. Or maybe it means Jack's not who we think he is.

Not the best episode, but better than people said it was.

Our "schedule" is to watch and episode 4 times a week (Mon, Wed, Thurs, and Sun), and post our thoughts on that episode the following day.

As you may have guessed, last nights episode was Stranger in a Strange Land. Each day there is a new episode, I (or one of the other old place watchbackers) will try to post what that episode is for that night.

"Newbies" are welcome to join us...especially since you have graciously welcomed us into your abode.

Kate is still struggling over their decision to leave Jack in the hands of the Others as she and Sawyer return to their camp. Meanwhile, Hurley finds an old van in the jungle and attempts to use it to help a fellow survivor in need of faith and hope. Flashbacks reveal more of Hurley's tumultuous past with the numbers curse.

Writer: Edward Kitsis, Adam Horowitz, Director: Eric Laneuville

Hopefully the threat of this will force the unions and exec's into a deal...and if it doesnt lets just send our favourite Iraqi after some of the big guns for some neck snapping

This talkback can consider itself purged

Dear god did that season pick up teh pace or what..just finished 'man behind the curtain' and my head is lieterally fried..

I have soo many point I want to talk about when they are fresh in my head but I'll wait til we get there..pure fantastic

www.geocaching.com

But regardless, it's quite a lot of fun. And almost never even requires a shovel. Most caches are hidden in a hollow tree, or under some bushes, etc. Most are on public property, too.

I like the way in your synopsis of 'stranger in a strange land' you didnt mention Jack's tat's once....is this the most tedious/useless flashback out of all of them...I think so

I personally think you sould keep it as a living breathing memory of the greatest talkback ever...I might change me name now to room 23 or Jacobs shack...

Again, thanks for catching that.

Nice idea about a thank you note. I'll send one too.

Herc's address is herculesaicn @ yahoo.com ...remove the spaces.

[Jack is going through suitcases. Ethan walks up.]

Ethan - You’re the Doctor, right?

Jack - Yeah. That’s me.

Ethan - Well, I heard you were rounding up the medicine, so I figured you might want this.

[He opens a suitcase.]

Jack - Whew.

[Laugh]

Ethan - Jackpot, right?

Jack - Guy must have been a hypochondriac or something. Where did you find this?

Ethan - Jungle. I’m Ethan, by the way. [They shake hands.]

Jack - Jack.

Ethan - Thank you, Jack.

Jack - For what?

Ethan - Getting those together, having a little perspective, you know. [Says something unintelligible.] Most of them still think we’re going to get rescued any time now.

Jack - And you think I don‘t?

Ethan - No, I think you’re smart. And I think you’re looking at that girl, [looks at Claire] knowing that you might actually have to deliver that baby here. I know that’s what I’m thinking.

Jack - Well, it’s nice to know I’m not alone.

Ethan - [Laughs.] You’re definitely not alone.

Jack - If she does go into labor, at least I know I’ve got an assistant. [Ethan looks at him and looks away.] I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to…”

Ethan - It’s all right. Don’t worry about it. Anyway I’m glad the meds.

Jack - Thank you. [Ethan gets up to leave.]

Ethan - Jack, um, my wife died in childbirth. And our uh, our baby didn’t make it either. [Jack looks at him, but doesn’t say anything.] Well, let’s hope we’re both wrong and the rescue boats are on the way right now.

Jack - Let’s hope. [Ethan walks away.]

LOST

It was also creepy...or maybe startling, hearing he lost his wife during childbirth. Puts a whole new perspective on Ethan and his actions.

We don't need to boost our totals anymore. It's kinda like bowling...we;ve reached the perfect score.

maybe she chooses Jack on the Island but then something happens that changes that...or more likely choice could be that Jack chooses Juliett

namaste one and all

If conceived on the Island and stays on the Island the mother/child dies...correct

If conceived off the island but born on it both live..yes,check

so Sun conceived on the Island and maybe born(I presume)off the Island...what happens there???????????

does the child carry with it some weird Island powers...or will it spell disaster for Sun and Jin after they thought they got away and safe to have their child....I think there maybe a twist in the tail concerning their baby in a flash forward..

any ideas of comments reguarding this??

namaste folks

The other good point is your question. If a child is conceived off the island but comes to the island, everything seems to be okay. If conceived on the island and the mother stays, they both die. So what happens if Sun and/or Jin get off the island?

I think I said in a post on the old place that I thought there was something medical about the death in conjunction with smokie/the island. Let's say a fetus conceived on the island would be perceived as an invading organism. If the island heals wounds and perceives this as a wound, that would explain why they and their moms die.

So logically, you'd think Sun's child was in danger, but only in danger...not out of hope. Getting off the island may give it a chance.

So suppose Sun gets off. Maybe she lives, maybe not...but the child does...at least for a while.

Now think about Jack. All the work he did to get them rescued. Then more effort to make sure Sun got off the island so the child would have a chance. Then one day on a plane you read an obituary.

LOST

Wasn't there mention last year of Bai Ling saying that she was going to be in several episodes? Yet she didn't turn up again last season. Somehow I think we'll see her again in a future season. I didn't really care for her scenes in general, but she was easy on the eye, at the very least.

We sure got some crazy Jackface action when he confronts whatshername at the tattoo parlor! This is after his wife leaves him, yes?

Sawyer is top notch is this episode again, what with his interaction with Karl, singing that "Jaws" song (what I refer to it as), and not apologizing to Kate. Better than all-comic relief Sawyer, which we get tonight.

What did Cindy come to watch? The trial? The execution? How many days in Room 23 did she spend anyway?

Jack's still not sympathyzing with Juliet too much, but I think he'd hold her death on his consciounce (sp!), and if she stays alive, he has a better chance of escaping. But I still see him as being un-allied with her at this point.

Not a bad episode overall!

Actually, I don't like the idea of no one showing for the funeral. If someone is famous enough to get a story for their obituary, then someone somewhere, press or papperazzi, perhaps, will show up for the funeral.

I also remember Bai Ling saying more episodes than 1. I don't find her attrative, though. Too skinny, too slutty...I dunni, but something I don't like.

They'll have to tie up that loose end sometime. Also, the resemblence between the sherriff and the lady at Desmond's jewelery store is a bit uncanny, don't you think? Any connection there?

I keep coming back the the small casket. I keep coming back to how L&C like to play with words. I keep coming back to how they said we had "met" who was in the casket. Well, we saw an ultrasound. I know it's an out-there theory, and I honestly hope and sometimes think it's totally wrong. I mean, why would Kate be so cynical about going to the funeral if it was a child? Happy to hear your thoughts, though.

Looks like "Room 23" is officially in Talkback Heaven. But I wouldn't get too attached to this one yet...I have a feeling Herc will have at least 2 more LOST talkbacks started before the premiere...especially if he makes contact with Lindeloff & Cuse...and probably a big bombshell will come out of the new ARG/FlyOceanic right before Jan 31st that he'll want us to chat about. Then...the inevitable premiere day talkback...but hey...this feels like home for now.

Reading over some of the posts here...I had some thoughts.

The Coffin. Some people think it looked "too small" to be an adult size coffin...and it did appear to be a lil snug for a Michael...or a Locke...and certainly a Hurley!! But every shot of the coffin was from a very weird angle...especially the shot looking straight down on it. Someone over at The Fuselage even cut Jack out in a wide shot, flipped him horizontally and showed that he would have fit inside of it. Just barely, but he would have made it. I'm thinking the "size" of the coffin was as much a "prop" malfunction than a conscious effort by TPTB to throw us off any "trail". Also...the obit, as I mentioned back in Room 23, was not suppose to reveal the "teenage son" aspect...that nugget was revealed AFTER the fact by a production assistant who worked on the finale episode. That said...I can't see it being anyone BUT Michael...I think Jack was just surprised that Walt wasn't there, at the very least...and of course, Kate would want nothing to do with Michael after his murderous betrayal of the Losties back on the island. She appeared peeved at Jack for attending. Some might say..."Michael is too obvious"...but I think, in this case, everyone else is a red herring.

Sawyer singing "Farewell and Adieu" from JAWS gave me goose bumps. My favorite SHOW referencing my favorite MOVIE?! I still have a feeling Sawyer will meet his end in the mouth of a Dharma shark. Almost got him once!

Good to see ya again, Maximus...rb..pa...BigE...Brig htEyes...Ghost...et al. Nice to have a talkback that doesn't take a week to load...or give you the "white screen of doom". Namaste!

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The one is Seoul, S. Korea is great...and the one in Ames promotes their service to London...with a big pic of Big Ben on it...oh...and guess what time Big Ben is displaying on the billboard...that right...8:15!!

Too fuckin clever!! JJ is KING of Viral!!

I know paburrows linked this yesterdau, but here's a tiny url link to the story: http://tinyurl.com/2qu7dl

That's a wonderful opening, but it continues. Charlie's sarcasm about chasing a dog with an arm in it's mouth into the creapy jungle, Hurley not realizing (or caring) it's sarcasm with a great line of his own about telling someone if he wasn't back in 3 hours, and finding the van.

I think I missed the fact Hurley's friend ran off with his girlfriend. I don't remember that at all.

The dart in Sawyer's foot was from the hatch, right? They didn't know the hatch had gone boom, did they.

I have a love/hate thing with the scenes on the beach when there's a reunion. This one when Kate and Sawyer come back may be my least favorite.

Jin and Hurley trying to communicate was classic. When Sawyer walked up it was great. Great hugs, great Sawyerisms, and beer.

Actually, I found myself laughing a lot in this one. The scene at the dinner table was laugh after laugh. Sawyer finding the head. Skeletor. 1000...10000. IHOP. Slapping Charlie. The phrases Sawyer was teaching Jin. Hurley's Sawyerism. Shambala. I like it when they do the lighter stuff. This one was a great reak from all the heavy stuff that's been going on this season.

Nice break to the break though with Kate, Sayid, Locke and Danielle. The look on Danielle's face when Kate referenced Alex was priceless.

As far as contracts go, you/he may be right about only 16 for the last 2 seasons, but seems to me if they were contracted for 16 in this season, Bad Robot will either owe ABC money for not a full season 4 or will have to add those other epsiodes to another season.

That's just speculation on my part, though.

But that brings me to another point which I asked back in "Room 23". Couldn't JJ/Bad Robot settle with the union like Letterman/Worldwide Pants did?

I wrote...

Hi guys, Just wanted to drop you a line and say thanks for letting us take up the valuable bandwidth with the LOST S3 finale talkback. We know you could have pulled it at any time, but put up with our desire to keep it going. I think we kept it on topic most of the time, and I hope we proved, as Moriarity said, "Talkback works!! Talkback works!!"

Thanks again,

Rick Brogden (aka rbrog77)

Drew wrote...

Thanks for restoring my faith in talkback in general. You guys are getting a shout-out in my 2007 "Best Of" list.

Drew McWeeny

screenwriter

west coast editor, Ain't It Cool News

I believe a few of the die hards who were on the 'Im sick of lying' Lost thread have sent a wee e-mail to say thank you for allowing us to use up your band width and continue in our goal to keep the Lost debate alive until the season premier. Well I would like to add my voice to those who said thank you and hope that you will drop in from time to time with thoughts on the new season... Many respects and thanks, Gareth aka Maximus Prime

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Thanks to you guys for restoring my faith that talkback can, indeed, be a positive thing.

Nice of him to get back to us, im sure he has a million other things he could be doing... ______________________________ _________________________