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WARNERS Has Chosen BLU-RAY!!!

Ahem by Damitron	Jan 4th, 2008 09:40:27 PM
First Again? Better get PS3 folks!
Damn... by Judge Briggs	Jan 4th, 2008 09:41:08 PM
Just when I bought a new HD DVD player... Still, that Dreamworks and Paramount deal is pivotal... hmm...
oh man... by v1cious	Jan 4th, 2008 09:42:19 PM
they have canceled the CES hd-dvd conference. this is pretty damn bad.
Wow, that projector is fairly reasonable... by Anti-fanboy	Jan 4th, 2008 09:46:23 PM
But I owe Uncle Sam out the ass, greedy bastard. And I can't believe that it looks like the better format is winning out... Wonder how many "told you so" posts you're gonna get here, Harry? Heheh.
I still love VHS by beetlegeuse	Jan 4th, 2008 09:47:11 PM
and i'll keep on lovin DVD for a few more years. crisper clearer whatever. i want more news about the movies themselves
The sooner one format wins, the longer that format will last by hegele	Jan 4th, 2008 09:48:20 PM
Consumers are pretty irritated by HD but at the same time I think they are for the most part interested. If this goes on longer than it could, it might just be the BETA/Laserdisc it between DVD and the hard drive theory.
waiting it out... by sith_rising	Jan 4th, 2008 09:48:26 PM
too soon too tell. besides, DVD is the last physical format. 2 or 3 years from now, it'll be downloads with a moderate Paypal or debit card fee.
thank you warner by skiff	Jan 4th, 2008 09:50:05 PM
This gets us one step closer the lucasfilm releasing on bluray
Oh well by movieman742	Jan 4th, 2008 09:50:09 PM
As and avid HD-DVD fan I don't really know what to make of this yet. I mean I understand that this might be the end of HD-DVD but I still consider them the better of the two. I own both so I think I'm just gonna start buying 2-1 blu instead of the other way around.
This was featured in by Turd Furgeson	Jan 4th, 2008 09:50:24 PM
Business Week some time in December. They quoted someone from the blue ray camp saying that Warners was coming over after the holidays.... I'm just not sold on blue ray. So many things i've seen look fake and computer generated with no depth of field.... I can't decide between the 2 and just might buy the LG combo player.. Advice? Harry? I saw Pirates on Blue Ray and it looked terrible...
ALSO by movieman742	Jan 4th, 2008 09:52:30 PM
There is a rumor that a BLU exclusive was going PURPLE or all out HD. This might be announced at CES.
Weinerpenis.... by Marlowespade	Jan 4th, 2008 09:53:38 PM
::clap:: ::clap clap:: ::clap clap clap:: ::thunderous applause:: Speaking of movie news, the new Bond girl's been announced: http://www.comingsoon.net/news /movienews.php?id=40652
Wasn't Harry just whining about money not too long ago? by ShiftyEyedDog2	Jan 4th, 2008 09:55:05 PM
I think it was about the cost of wedding and honeymoon, and how he couldn't really afford a Blu-Ray player right now. Did he win the lottery in the few months between then and now? Now he not only picked up a BR player, but some serious projectors, receivers, etc.... damn, im in the wrong business. apparently webmastering is where the $$ is!
PS3 sales are going to EXPLODE in the next few months! by ShiftyEyedDog2	Jan 4th, 2008 09:56:18 PM
This ought to piss of Microsoft
I FUCKING TOLD YOU SO!!! by Kingdaddy	Jan 4th, 2008 09:57:04 PM
Just kidding. Just wanted to rile the fanboys up. You're dead on about one thing Harry, HD rules all. I personally have Blu because of my PS3, but I just want someone to win once and for all for fux sake. Any flicks in the Warner catalog you cream your underoos about seeing in Blu in the near future???
Warner's is also pink slipping employees Jan. 14 by Uncapie	Jan 4th, 2008 09:59:08 PM
Brought to you by your friends; the Writer's Guild.
Patton in Blu-Ray=Spicy Meatball by uss cygnus	Jan 4th, 2008 10:04:20 PM
I want the "We're advancing! Is that CLEAR!?!? ...We're going to attack all day! we're going to attack all night!If we are not VICTORIOUS....Let no one come back alive!" Scene in full 1080p & Uncompressed 7.1 Audio.
The question is, WHY is Warners going Blu... by expert_40	Jan 4th, 2008 10:04:25 PM
... because Sony has pissed off both Disney and 20th Century Fox with BluRay. So the question is... WHY? Does anyone here, not a flamer, know why this went down. I heard a rumor that Sony is ponying up big bucks, which is the only thing that makes sense considering HDDVD players outsold BluRay 5 to 1 this Christmas. So, please, if anyone really knows, let US know. No flamers or Sony hacks, please.
Which studios back which format by mthrndr	Jan 4th, 2008 10:05:48 PM
Can someone list out studios by format? Is universal now the only studio exclusively HD DVD?
the format backers go this way... by expert_40	Jan 4th, 2008 10:08:35 PM
HDDVD: Universal and Viacom (Paramount/Dreamworks, etc) BluRay: Disney/Touchstone, 20th Century Fox, and now Warners.
awesome, thanks by mthrndr	Jan 4th, 2008 10:11:10 PM
I had thought Paramount was dual support, but I haven't been following it too closely.
Warner has chosen... an unfinished format. by MaxTheSilent	Jan 4th, 2008 10:13:30 PM
Gee, when exactly WILL we see Profile 1.1 players and titles in stores? Will there be rebates offered to the 80% or-so of Blu-Ray owners who now own $1000 paperweights because their machines won't play 1.1-enabled titles? Will Sony EVER let stand-alone players sell for cheaper than the PS3?
Denon 3808 by AlwaysThere	Jan 4th, 2008 10:23:14 PM
Fucking great receiver. I've got one too. At least you know how to pick a great Audio Receiver Harry. :p
Blu-Ray players a $1,000 paperweight? by Atticus Finch	Jan 4th, 2008 10:25:45 PM
I don't think so, son. I bought the Samsung BD-P1400 for $299 and threw in a 2 year Best Buy service plan. I did the firmware update and with the TruSurround, it kicks unholy ass. And I read that there will be a firmware update to 1.1, so no worries. When 2.0 comes along, I think my player will get sick and I'll go back to BB and grab myself the newest version free of charge. Boo-ya!
So how long till Paramount swaps back to Blu-Ray? by The Outlander	Jan 4th, 2008 10:26:03 PM
Followed by Dreamworks (and Universal). Paramount's contract was supposed to last 18 months.
Harry chooses...Blu-Ray too??? by yodasteve	Jan 4th, 2008 10:26:57 PM
Not the nail in the coffin? Whatever you are smokin, i want some too. This thing is so over now. Funny how Harry started this thing out with his exploration into Blu-ray. Backtrack city methinks. Harry chose HD because he was wined and dined by them and probably paid nicely for it either by free products (butt numb athon anyone?)or advertising support for the site. It is called payola. I hope this is the end of it. What happened to the "I call these format wars correctly" from last year? If Harry was sure the HD format was going to win, why not just wait it out till all the titles went HD? But no, he caved even before the announcement by Warners. I will say that the two titles early adopters want more than anything in high def are LOTR and Star Wars. Lucas films has said they are waiting for a clear winner, or they would skip high def for download. I hope they get the supposedly worked on high def sets ready for deployment by 4th qtr of this year. Same for LOTR. -Steve
YES!!!! by Redfive!	Jan 4th, 2008 10:28:25 PM
Dark Knight,Speed Racer,Half Blood Prince,Watchmen and everything else will go Blu-Only.But I have a feeling Universal and Paramount are gonna stay HD DVD ..why?..Microsoft. Plus why did Warners go Blu...SALES.The end.BluRay outsold HD DVD all year but HD DVD fans cant except that,Bluray has everything HD DVD does not with the over rated PiP function and theres nothing left.
Format War is over? Say it ain't so! by Zardoz	Jan 4th, 2008 10:35:48 PM
Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. WB going blu-ray is pretty damn major, but it doesn't necessarily mean the end for HD-DVD. What I don't understand is why WB made an announcement today, 2 days before they were already scheduled to make an announcement on the subject: why not just wait until Sunday at the CES, as scheduled? It just seems a little hinky to me, is all. BTW, I just finished watching the new Blade Runner set in HD and it is frickin' SWEET! The docos are fantastic and exhaustively detailed and the film looks absolutely incredible. Well, at least I'll have that to watch on HD-DVD...(still no plans to buy a blu-ray player at all right now, though. I MIGHT buy a PS3 sometime in the far future when prices go even lower and the victor is truly declared) Looks like I'll be watching standard-def DVD's upconverted to HD for a while...;-)
expert_40, you are sadly mistaken; HD-DVD did not outsell BD thi by Atticus Finch	Jan 4th, 2008 10:37:12 PM
Especially at a ridiculous 5-1 clip that you state! From digitalbits.com quoting Warner Bros. pres. Ron Sanders: "One of the things you see in the NPD data for this fourth quarter was that even with a $100 [price] premium, Blu-ray set tops outsold HD set tops in December. Even with Toshiba having the lowest-cost player in the market, software sales remained 2 to 1 in favor of Blu-ray." So where did you get your 5-1 propoganda?
FUCK THAT by BurgerTime	Jan 4th, 2008 10:37:31 PM
HD-DVD is backed by Microsoft. So you know every Vista running system from now on will only support HD and have driver 'issues' with Blu-Ray. It ain't going down without a fight. Trust me.
Atticus bought the warranty plan from Best Buy? by Zardoz	Jan 4th, 2008 10:37:55 PM
Shit, man, everyone knows those "warranties" are a scam...
New Line with Blu Ray as well = LOTR in Blu Ray! by Atticus Finch	Jan 4th, 2008 10:38:31 PM
HD-DVD fanboys are weeping.
Re:The question is, WHY is Warners going Blu... by yodasteve	Jan 4th, 2008 10:40:39 PM
HD outsold blu 5 to 1? Really? Everything I heard was that Blu-ray outsold HD this christmas and continues to do so. And i know for a fact that software is selling at least 3 to 1 in favor of blu ray despite having more total players in a year long period. but is warner going with blu exclusively any more questionable than paramount going HD after MS and toshiba paid them? -Steve
if it's propaganda... by expert_40	Jan 4th, 2008 10:43:38 PM
... then it's propaganda that's been quoted to me, that HDDVD has outsold Blu during the Holidays when not counting the PS3. If that's wrong, it's wrong, but don't go quoting propaganda. Sony is the KING of sending out propaganda in situations like this. Remember the fake movie critic?
Oh, there is no "scam", Zardoz by Atticus Finch	Jan 4th, 2008 10:44:08 PM
I've used my warranty on my Sirius S-50 to upgrade to a Stiletto when the S-50 crapped out and on my Stiletto to upgrade to a Stiletto 2. I also used it when my iPod shuffle went through the washing machine by accident. Each time I did an exchange it was hassle and question free. So put that in your pipe and smoke it, scam-boy!
Zardoz, not so fast... by Acappellaman	Jan 4th, 2008 10:46:09 PM
I bought a 5mp Sony digital camera from Best Buy in 2003, and paid extra for the four-year extended warranty. Three years into the warranty, the disc drive in the camera went bad. They did more than I expected - they let me match dollar-for-dollar what I paid for the original camera, so I ended up with a much better camera than I had before, extra batteries and an extra Flash drive. The warranty even paid for the extended warranty on the new camera, and the guy didn't even give a hard time about it - he just flat out told me I could get whatever I wanted. I was more than pleased.
Why Will Blu-Ray Win? by filegumbo	Jan 4th, 2008 10:46:28 PM
Easy, it's got a much cooler name. Blu-Ray rolls right off the tongue and HD-DVD is real awkward to say. Plus the Blue-Ray logo, and disc cases are cooler.
and what was the return value on your "warranty"? by Zardoz	Jan 4th, 2008 10:50:16 PM
In other words, how much did you pay for your warranty versus the cost of the item replaced? Really, all they are is over-priced "insurance policies". Consumer Reports recommends NEVER buying extended warranties because it's not economically advantageous to the consumer. (Why do you think they sell them so hard? It's because they stand to make more money for NOTHING!)
Doesn't include New Line, HBO or BBC by hegele	Jan 4th, 2008 10:51:43 PM
According to highdefdigest, WB said that is there choice.
Not all of us are made out of money -- screw both formats by Freakemovie	Jan 4th, 2008 10:52:21 PM
I like techie toys as much as the next guy, but I've spent a number of years and money on a nice little DVD collection, and I'm in no rush to start paying more for quality that I'll be amazed at for a week and then get used to. No, I'll wait a couple of years until my job stops severely underpaying me -- and then I'll think about switching to the new format, which will be all Internet downloads by then, and I'll chuckle heartily at everyone who wasted their money on Blu-ray/HD.
by DojoFreak	Jan 4th, 2008 10:59:08 PM
I think now that Warner is going exclusively with blu-ray that sales of blu-ray players will increase. People such as myself have been waiting to see what Warner was going to do after 4th quarter sales came out. Many news sources on the net are already declaring hd-dvd dead as a result of this news. This will create confidence in the marketplace. More players will be sold and prices will come down. Many may buy players when they get their tax returns.
by Homerific	Jan 4th, 2008 11:03:27 PM
HD-DVD is DEAD. Blu-ray had been outselling it all year and it crushed it during Christmas. Not counting PS3 sales is nothing but HD propaganda. Even without PS3 sales and $100 HD players Blu-Ray still outsold HD in December. It's over folks, get your PS3 or stand alone Blu-Ray players to tide you over until everything gets downloaded. The format war is OVER.
Denon 3808 rocks the Casbah... and so does Blu-Ray by DarthMartel	Jan 4th, 2008 11:12:23 PM
What nimrod said HD-DVD outsold Blu-Ray 5to1? I like the caveat stated later that the statement didn't take into account PS3's. That's the same rationale that takes place in Iraq when tabulating the death toll. Shot in the back? That doesn't count. Killed by roadside bomb? That doesn't count either. You also have to remember that a good amount of HD-DVD players were sold this holiday season simply because of the special price cuts on 'em and they were selling for $100-$200. Those players were only 720p capable and not the 1080p that most Blu-Ray players are. There are 1080p HD players but, the majority sold and counted towards the holiday sales claims are the cheap, lower quality ones. It's like comparing Toyota Camry sales to Cadillac sales. They're just not equivalent. By the way, the guy whining about no Blu-Ray 1.1 players out? The PS3 got a firmware update about 3 weeks ago updating it to 1.1. Just waiting on the movies now and Resident Evil :Apocalyps is the first one out. More are on the way.
Zardoz and the Best Buy warranty by Kapowski	Jan 4th, 2008 11:12:46 PM
The warranty is where Best Buy makes the majority of it's money since yes, the majority of the time, people don't end up bringing it back. But I for one, made damn sure to buy the 2 year warranty when I picked up my X-Box 360. Besides the fact that Microsoft can't make a video game system or an operating system that actually works properly, when they come out with the new versions with a cooler processor or any other added feature, all I've gotta do is take it back and get myself a brand new one. Hell, if they come out with a new system in the next two years, I can just take my 360 back, get a sealed one and ebay the fucker. Either way, I win.
And now BluRay will become the Laserdisc of the 00's by WhoDis	Jan 4th, 2008 11:24:42 PM
I mean come on, who cares? DVDs are beyond good enough. It's about the movies, man. It's like with music... millions of people are happy to listen to music on crappy mp3s via their earbuds or shitty computer speakers, while a smaller contingent of audiophiles listen to music on CDs with tricked out systems. It's all about the song, not the picking up of details of the hand squeaking on the fretboard.
Warners has chosen... $500 million. by MaxTheSilent	Jan 4th, 2008 11:28:17 PM
'According to a trusted source that was close to the negotiations, Warner and FOX were working on a deal to go Exclusive to HD DVD as recent as last week. Our source tells us that Warner was only willing to go to HD DVD if FOX would go with them. Their thinking was if they just went to HD DVD by themselves, it would not end the format war. Early this week FOX was paid an undisclosed amount to remain exclusive to Blu-ray. With the FOX deal falling through, Warner had no choice but to accept the BDA’s $500 Million offer to go Blu-ray exclusive. We do wonder if FOX was just playing the HD DVD side, while having no intentions of ever switching.'
WhoDis by Kapowski	Jan 4th, 2008 11:29:05 PM
Even before I got my HD-TV and PS3, I knew that DVD's weren't "beyond good enough". The step up to Blu-Ray from DVD is like the step up to DVD from VHS.
Blu Rocks... I Prefer it over HD DVD by grievenom	Jan 4th, 2008 11:37:42 PM
I have 50 blu-ray titles and about 15 hd dvd. For dual format releases I buy blu-ray. I only buy HD DVD for exclusives I can't live without. I'm so glad WB did the right thing and went with Blu-Ray. Now we just need Universal and Paramount/DW to fall in step and all will be right in the HD World.
I hope Blu-Ray owners... by MaxTheSilent	Jan 4th, 2008 11:40:45 PM
...don't mind re-buying every title they've bought so far. Because once the Profile 1.1 discs start coming out, and the interactivity begins to match HD-DVDs then they're gonna re-release everything with 'new enhanced features'.
It's 16mm film for me, thanks. by wackybantha	Jan 4th, 2008 11:42:44 PM
Wait! Whatsa meesa sayin'? I WANT A BLU-RAY PLAYER PRONTO!!!
THE KNIGHT HAS CHOSEN BLURAY... HERE'S WHY... by THE KNIGHT	Jan 4th, 2008 11:49:32 PM
your mom told me so.
HD DVD Players did out sell Blu Ray by cousindave	Jan 4th, 2008 11:50:13 PM
Sony adds the PS3 to the Blu Ray numbers, even though 95% of the PS3s will never play a Blu Ray disc. Apple TV will win the format war.
so STAR WARS and LOTR are blu ray exlusives, R.I.P. HD DVD by lavatory love machine	Jan 4th, 2008 11:55:52 PM
warnes distributes for lucasfilms and owns new line
fact is, blu ray software outperforms hddvd by noiretblanc	Jan 4th, 2008 11:55:54 PM
so, really, who gives a fuck about the exact percentage of ps3 owners that play blu movies? more blu ray movies get played than hddvd movies
Harry is responisble by Gay Jesus Christ	Jan 4th, 2008 11:55:57 PM
For all the idiots that followed Harry's "I've chosen Hd-dvd" in the summer and bought Hd-dvd's due to his influence how do you feel to get shafted? I feel like pointing at all the HD-dvd guys and taking my right hand an putting my index finger and thumb perpendicular to each other then placing that in the middle of my forehead while pointing with my left and and laughing. What suckers! You knew from the beginning that you would never ever in history ever get sony columbia/mgm titles. WHy would you buy a format if you weren't gonna get that studios vast library? you knew with blu-ray you might get universal/paramount later on but with HD-dvd you'd never get SONY titles!!!!! total idiocy. the hd-dvd war only helped christmas blu-ray shoppers as the competition allowed for BOGO free deals culminating in a 400 dollar ps3's with spiderman 3 and 5 blu-rays, and ten dollar blu-rays at amazon. Hd-dvd has cheap media too but you have a catch 22 as it's only from limited studios and the more discs you have you risk losing it all 2 years down the road when HD-DVD is obsolete and you can't buy another machine to play your discs if it breaks. So Harry led you down that path and he's enjoying his 3000 dollar projector and new blu-ray player using HD-DVD money while you're left holding the bag. Hilarious!
The Gaurdian by sammylou	Jan 4th, 2008 11:55:58 PM
Harry there was a reason that steaming pile of shit was marked down.
worldwide: blu ray 80%, hd dvd 20 % by lavatory love machine	Jan 4th, 2008 11:59:01 PM
what happens on the US is just a part, PS· is selling a million consoles a month between europe and japan
Why is WB announcing this at the HD-DVD forum @ CES? by Zardoz	Jan 5th, 2008 12:03:13 AM
Why do you make this announcement to a room full of soon-to-be pissed off people? Why not make it at a BD forum? If they're saying this now, what's the point of the CES party for HD-DVD? Or is that cancelled now?Why in denial about the rumors for so long? The whole thing's hinky to me...
When I can inject... by Catnip_Thieves	Jan 5th, 2008 12:04:01 AM
a movie through my eyeball and it fuses with my neural system to present an awesome high-def sensory experience, I'll give two shits about any of this. Until then, Catnip_Thieves has chosen jerky internet streaming web footage, and here's why - 'cos that shit is for FREE, playa!
But...but...HD-DVD has high-def PORN!!! by Dr. Chim Richalds	Jan 5th, 2008 12:08:59 AM
Clearly the most ridiculous basis for a prediction of all time. This war's over, boys and girls. 70% studio support, Universal likely to go at least format neutral (per digital bits), Paramount's deal set to expire - Toshiba's about to lose a ton of money.
BLU RAy has porn too by lavatory love machine	Jan 5th, 2008 12:19:56 AM
http://media.dvd.ign.com/media /142/14225451/img_5152494.html , http://www.dvdempire.com/Exec/ v4_it...377739&searchID=
Guess I might have to try and ebay my HD-DVD by shitstorm23	Jan 5th, 2008 12:20:54 AM
Then go pick up a...Standard Upconvert player. After having HD-DVD and my friend having a PS3, I really don't see that much of a difference. There are parts that are pretty clear, but then I watch regular DVDs, and I don't notice I'm not watching an HD-DVD until the menu comes up. Maybe I don't have the greatest TV or player, but it just doesn't look THAT great. Not to mention there are some titles that are just completely disappointing. Now that there are super cheap standard DVD players that also play AVIs, it just makes sense for me. Blu-Ray can win for now, but I'll take the enevitable winner: Downloadable HD movies. Congrats to all the BR owners!
if you have a 42 inch tv and sit a figurative city block by noiretblanc	Jan 5th, 2008 12:24:10 AM
away, it really defeats the purpose
Lucas Films does not Distribute through Warner Bros by darkkelt	Jan 5th, 2008 12:27:17 AM
it distributes through fox. always has for star wars and through paramount for indy. tsk tsk. only an idiot would say lets not count the ps3 because thats cheating. well you have to count every device that is capable of playing back the disk. ps3 or not. this was the right thing to do. I'm tired of buying discs in two formats. now I have 240 hd dvd coasters unless they role hd dvd playback into new players for years to come
So, it seems I will be buying that PS3 after all by Robots In Das Guys	Jan 5th, 2008 12:31:03 AM
I'm glad Blu-Ray is winning the war.
Downloadable moves will not fly unless by darkkelt	Jan 5th, 2008 12:33:11 AM
we all have 1000 terabyte harddrives. lets face it to get great quality hd it takes about 15gbs space using avc or vc1 codec. who's going to want to only own 70 movies on their 1 terabyte drives and what happens when those drives die as they do. packaged media is going to be around for a long time and thats a good thing. sure you may use vod or downloadable movies on occasion. but collectors which many of us have become want something we can hold and something thats safe from a harddrive crash. and this idea of downloading 1080p movies over the internet is just a fantasy. until we're all sporting dedicated 250mb links to the internet this shit won't fly.
Microsoft could easily destroy Sony's BluRay by Z0D	Jan 5th, 2008 12:34:52 AM
Here's how they do it. I've read online that at the next big videogame/electronics show M$ might be planning on introducing the XBOX 360 Ultimate. This thing has the new and cooler chips, 320GB Hard Drive, HDMI, Hi-Def Audio, new software features (IPTV?), built in wi-fi, and even the HD-DVD drive as the main disc drive. But here's the thing: If they put in an HD-DVD/Blu-Ray combo drive in the Ultimate they could essentially destroy Sony's PS3 by having a dual-format system. But who knows. It's all rumor... ___KNEEL___
BGDAWES chooses a six pack and heres why... by BGDAWES	Jan 5th, 2008 12:49:28 AM
Because no matter who wins this war, I'll still get drunk. Hot shit!
Xbox 360 Ultimate - not a good idea by Dr. Chim Richalds	Jan 5th, 2008 12:54:16 AM
I don't see how that's good for Microsoft. Let's assume that they make an internal HD-DVD drive. Now, you can't have the games on HD-DVD, because they'd be incompatible with all existing Xboxes on the market. You could therefore only use it for movies, but at the moment it seems apparent that the format is dead. Plus, Microsoft would be putting another, more expensive version of their system on the market, which will serve to confuse consumers. Besides, according to Gamespot, Microsoft has gone on record and denied any intent to create an internal drive. There's also no way they'd add a combo player, because Sony would never license to them. The Ultimate might have the other listed featurs, but the fact that new versions of the Xbox will finally include features that the PS3 has had all along simply shows the technological superiority, and value, of Sony's system.
I have chosen not to give 2 shits. Here's why... by Little Beavis	Jan 5th, 2008 01:05:15 AM
Cuz Harry sold me on HD-VHS in 1999 and I've never looked back. HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAAAAA AAAAA..... oooh, that was a GOOD one...
That's a lot of HD discs Harry by wash	Jan 5th, 2008 01:08:22 AM
Curious how many of those were freebies?
Harry the Technotard by Junior Frenger	Jan 5th, 2008 01:14:18 AM
Again, what you don't know (or what you pretend not to know) about the tech is astounding. Any Blu Ray player will upconvert without the need of a reciever or any other device for that matter. The payoff you got from the HD-DVD camp couldn't possibly be worth your lame misinformation attempts at this stage of the game. HD-DVD is dead Harry. The check has cleared. Let it go man.
sith_rising by jfp2007	Jan 5th, 2008 01:32:50 AM
Bullshit. The vast majority of consumers buy physical media and downloads only for all is a decade off or more. Just because you live on the internet doesn't mean most of us do.
ZOD by v1cious	Jan 5th, 2008 01:49:16 AM
Microsoft already shot down the ultimate rumor. it's not happening
Warners has chosen... Bribery. by MaxTheSilent	Jan 5th, 2008 02:24:50 AM
It was always gonna end this way; with Sony lying, stealing and bribing its way to an apparent victory. And so the superiour, cheaper and higher quality format will be left in the dust. But if people think that there's a future in Blu-Ray then they're in for a shock. It has no legs. Hell, it isn't even FINISHED yet. When the PS3 dies, so does Blu-Ray. Simple as that.
Harry, that projector... by Lost_Horizon	Jan 5th, 2008 02:29:40 AM
...you mention in the article and the one you link to at Amazon are two completely different models. The 550 is an older 720p model, so if that's what you bought, you're not getting full "1080p super powers". The HC 1080 is a pretty good unit, if that's what you did purchase (Epson reliability is excellent), but I think you probably would have preferred a DLP projector (better black levels, slightly more "film-like" than LCD). Nice to see some projector love, either way. They are excellent value for the money, for film geeks. As for this stupid format war, I don't care who wins, but does it even matter? If Paramount and Universal keep holding out, I'll just buy both players when I'm ready. Prices are becoming so affordable, there's almost no reason to have to choose. Peaceful coexistence.
Start using those HD-DVD's as... by Lance2769	Jan 5th, 2008 02:34:56 AM
...coasters!!! Anyone with knowledge in the HD war will tell you that Warner's choosing Blu-Ray IS the kiss of death for HD-DVD. Come on now Harry...never bet against two powerhouses like Sony and Apple who choose Blu-Ray long ago. Why in the hell anyone would follow a mediocre company like Toshiba's lead and invest in 200 + plus HD-DVD titles is beyond me. Start using them as coasters Harry or better yet, start selling them on eBay while you can still get some decent money for them.
who the fuck is warners by Prossor	Jan 5th, 2008 02:45:02 AM
and what the shit is blu-ray
Might I add... by Lance2769	Jan 5th, 2008 02:54:02 AM
Anyone notice how many fucking Blu-ray commercials played on network television over the holidays? A ton!!! I saw a few combo Blu-Ray/HD-DVD commercials for some new releases (primarily Blade Runner) but none solely for HD-DVD. During Christmas shopping at Best Buy, all I saw were people looking at or buying Blu-Ray discs. The HD-DVD aisles were dead. And now tonight, while at the movie theatre, I caught my first in-theatre Blu-Ray commercial just before 'Atonement'. Blu-Ray is everywhere! Never underestimate the power of advertising. HD-DVD is dead!!! R.I.P
I Love my PS3! by WONKABAR	Jan 5th, 2008 02:54:20 AM
Ratchet & Clank and Uncharted are some really fun games. Watching YouTube on my TV is sweet. Blade Runner and Kubrick look fucking awesome. I love that I don't have to keep buying batteries for my controller, that I don't have to pay for online and I didn't need a 99 dollar adapter. I do not fear teh RROD. Thanks Warner's, I shall buy even more BD titles from you now. Universal...get on it. I want Galactica on Blu-Ray now! New Line & Lucas...LOTR & SW announcements now! Those are all next on my list for re-purchase...and Excalibur. Cheerio
I HAVE CHOSEN! by ye olde shiza	Jan 5th, 2008 02:57:40 AM
Saving money by not buying into the hype behind this stupid format war! Huzzzah! DVDs and the upcoming Netflix set-top box for me. Fuck all your Hi-Def. companies. If you can't get your shit together and support a single format, I'm not going to support either one of ya. Peace, bitches.
Fucking brilliant by dr_john_zoidberg	Jan 5th, 2008 03:13:02 AM
I had $100 bucks on a Best Buy card to waste from the holidays, threw an extra $100 of my own cash in, and got the Toshiba HD-DVD player yesterday. 6 hours later I read this shit. The best part? The fact that WB had the Matrix Trilogy exclusive to HD-DVD was the tilting point for me. now I'VE got a $200 paperweight. I'm sure I'll have a better sense of humor about this in a few months, but right now I'm livid.
MaxTheSilent... by Junior Frenger	Jan 5th, 2008 03:18:33 AM
... you should live up to your namesake, because you're just talking out of your ass. Superior... Cheaper... Higher Quality?. Cheaper maybe, but thats all. The rest is bullshit. The specs are easily available, why don't you do some actual reading. Bribery? HAH! Wasn't it onlymonths ago that Paramount and Dreamworks were paid off to br HD-DVD exclusive?
1080p Projector for $1999 by topaz4206	Jan 5th, 2008 03:51:38 AM
Finally! In March of '07 the $3000 barrier was broken, and just 9 months later the $2000 barrier. It's the new Mitsubishi LCD unit, true 1080p! Now to find the money :(
Oh, and DUNE... by WONKABAR	Jan 5th, 2008 04:09:49 AM
need a super cool Blu-version of that too. Hopefully with an even better transfer and all the extras from the last release. A long with all the Euro-stuff anything else you can dig up Uni. Maybe even a commentary track with the Dino.
For those who say the future is Download... by Conqueror Worm	Jan 5th, 2008 05:06:19 AM
Your Dead Wrong! Film isnt like music, people want the highest quality possible, whereas with music they dont really care (hence shit quality mp3's). I read somewhere that to download a full high def film it would take weeks for us normal proles/plebs, and unless they replace the broadband network soon, you wont be relying on Internet Downloads for you films for another 8 years or so, thats a fuckin long time. Start buying Blu-Ray asap.
sniff... by iamnicksaicnsn	Jan 5th, 2008 05:09:22 AM
Yeah... as much as I don't want to believe it... it's over. Unless by the grace of God a Blu Exclusive company goes over to HD, there's no hope. It's just so insane, I mean, it's cheaper to make HDDVDs, they already have all the features Blu wish they all had at this point, but oh well, such is life.
Wacko and Yacko choos blue nurses, here's why... by Pipple	Jan 5th, 2008 05:13:09 AM
what does wb have, the old cartoons, some shit like batman and superman... that's all I can think of, oh and harry potter. Wow big woop.
"THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE" to quote a certain French Immortal. by alucardvsdracula	Jan 5th, 2008 05:21:02 AM
Besides Fox is backing Blu Ray - so Mr Lucas's 6 part space soap opera thingy will no doubt make its HD debut on the Blu boys machine.
Who want's high-def porn anyway? by hamo455	Jan 5th, 2008 05:24:36 AM
Every sweat bead and hair follicle - ugh. And there's still a shite-load of people out there that don't even own a computer, let alone download movies in any way shape or form, but they sure as hell watch DVDs. Ergo all the Laserdisc comparisons are way off.
HD-DVD will lose in the end by Sleepswithknives	Jan 5th, 2008 05:39:34 AM
How do I know this? Simple. 1. Apple Inc. is a member of the blu-ray forum. Steve Jobs, CEO of Apple Inc., is on the board of directors for Disney and Pixar. So it will be a cold day in hell before Disney goes over to HD-DVD. They will go with blu-ray. 2. Michael Bay made a post about MS, blu-ray, and HD-DVD a while back. Whether or not you like Bay, he said a very important thing: Microsoft wants BOTH formats to lose. Why? Simple. All about control. With the anti-trust sanctions for MS about to expire, they want to control the entire gateway for media, tied in to their OS and online services (via devices like the xbox 360). You can have your 1080p movie, so long as you get it through their online service (meaning either via windows, or the xbox 360, which is designed only to support HD-DVD as an add-on, opposed to being built in), or through some other gateway which has to go through a gateway they ultimately control. MS did the same exact thing when they tied Internet Explorer to their OS and Windows Media Player all in one neat little package. Same shit, different approach. If MS REALLY wanted HD-DVD to win, why haven't they put their massive marketing power and deep pockets behind pimping it out? They did it with the xbox and the 360, why not with this? Because they don't control it, body and soul. And as for the whole bandwidth issue, it's not a question of "can it be done". but "how can we profit" for the telecoms. I guarantee you, if movies were available only via download, you'd see infrastructure for fatter pipes installed real quick, because telecoms would want a piece of the action. Sounds like a bunch of conspiracy theory, I know, but like Deep Throat said, "Follow the Money." Whoever controls the keys to the gate of the castle controls the castle.
So now the fate of Blu-Ray by IndyCollector	Jan 5th, 2008 05:45:57 AM
Lays in the hands of the video-game-playing demographic, 20-something year old men who probably bought their PS3 on a credit card that they're still trying to pay off.
"Kiss of Death" by Brendon	Jan 5th, 2008 05:45:59 AM
Yes it is. Toshiba's "licking our wonds" statement just confirms that. Its over. Thank heavens. Its finally over.
Here we go: by Brendon	Jan 5th, 2008 06:07:39 AM
This is the great Toshiba quote: "We will assess the potential impact of this announcement with the other HD DVD partner companies and evaluate potential next steps" Here's a recommended potential next step - give it up now, rather than in the last few months of the year. Save us all the effort and tedium.
who wants beta? by palewook	Jan 5th, 2008 06:30:46 AM
blu or hd or who cares. there will be a common format replacing both of these in a few years.
Didn't loose, they were outbid! by viranth	Jan 5th, 2008 06:44:06 AM
Sony paid 500 million for Warner, I guess Toshiba didn't want to pay as much for their exlusive. Blu-ray is a crappy format, have fun with your rootkits, region coding and BD-J non working menus.
To those of you who Selected HD-DVD and Here's Why by ZoeFan	Jan 5th, 2008 07:19:06 AM
You Lose...Good Day Sir. And while yes, money was exchanged for Warner to come to their decision, HD-DVD is a garbage format. Warner knows it, Blu Ray supporters know, even Microsoft knows it.
I choose reel to reel film! by Orionsangels	Jan 5th, 2008 07:20:42 AM

none of this matters by slappy jones	Jan 5th, 2008 07:23:26 AM
because the public at large DON'T GIVE A FUCK.
Slappy... by ZoeFan	Jan 5th, 2008 07:26:26 AM
You're right, they don't care...YET. That won't be as true Christmas of '08 and by '09 you won't be able to say that at all. DVD's will be equal to VHS.
slappy jones by kwisatzhaderach	Jan 5th, 2008 07:36:36 AM
spot on - this whole HD bitchfest has been a disaster for the home video market.
Pfff it aint over till its over. by pax256	Jan 5th, 2008 07:38:02 AM
And in my case if BD wins I buy another hd dvd player right off the bat and or in the future seek out dual format players in order to garantee I dont run out of hardware if the HD camp bows out. Ill need players for the next 15-20 years (or pretty much when I kick the fuckin bucket my thinks). The same goes for BD owners if it ended up dying. No way in hell am I buying back my hd dvd movies in blu ray. Ill add blu ray to it but thats it. I still expect to build my hd dvd collection for another year at least. Probably end up being at least about half or a third hddvd over the next 3-4 years.
These competing formats have chosen my cock, here's why... by GrandMuffTarkin	Jan 5th, 2008 07:43:53 AM
Because until Bluballs and HD-DDT sort it out, I ain't buyin' shit. One format to rule them all, then you'll see my money. Until then, ballsweat for you.
What about that XBoX 360 rumor? by Stalkeye	Jan 5th, 2008 07:48:31 AM
About Microsoft creating a new version called Xbox 360 Ultimate, which will include a built in HD DVD player and Wi Fi? Methinks Sony has made gates & gang a wee bit nervous. But hands down Blu Ray shall win the format war witout a doubt. I prefer FoX,MGM,WB movies over Universal and Paramount anyday.
Sorry Indycollector by GrandMuffTarkin	Jan 5th, 2008 07:50:24 AM
You're market stats are off, the average age of a video game buyer is 37 years old, and has been playing for about 10 years. The average player is 30 years old. Hopefully this group has more financial savvy.
Digital Distribution may pwn both. by Stalkeye	Jan 5th, 2008 07:53:40 AM
With having the ability to download movies in HD content to your Xbox 360 and now the upcoming Netflix/LG settops, there well could be competition.But for those who rather collect than rent, It's all about BD as I will purchase another PS3.
Saw the back of that Denon! by oatmeal2348	Jan 5th, 2008 07:57:03 AM
Dear God that is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. I don't have nearly enough components to fill it up, but I want it anyway! BTW, i'm still waiting on picking a Hi-Def player.
My solution? Buy neither. by Stuntcock Mike	Jan 5th, 2008 08:36:46 AM
Shit, I'm as much of a movie geek as any of you. But replacing over 2500 dvd's ain't in the cards folks. Fuck that.
you already chose HDDVD harry! you can't switch now by BMacSmith	Jan 5th, 2008 08:48:06 AM
are you can. whatever.
you don't have to replace anything by noiretblanc	Jan 5th, 2008 08:56:26 AM
you just don't have to continue buying in that format. you know, dvd's don't stop working once you get a blu ray player, kooky
damnit- exhanging my HD now... by Judge Briggs	Jan 5th, 2008 09:04:13 AM
Taking it back to get a PS3... damnit!
Don't replace anything... by ZoeFan	Jan 5th, 2008 09:32:03 AM
You just won't have anything new to watch. Just accept the fact we live in a technological age where formats WILL be changing every 5 to 7 years. Get used to it.
Blu Ray by SUPERJIM	Jan 5th, 2008 09:39:20 AM
Better win now that I have a PS3. I do not yet have any discs to spin as we get royally ripped off over the pond in England, but I am sure I will get some soon. I recently found out my 40" Samsung "1080" TV I bought around a year ago is only 1080i the fuckers. Nowhere did it say 1080i on the bastard box.
Sorry for the double post... by SUPERJIM	Jan 5th, 2008 09:48:51 AM
Does anyone know of any cheap Blu Ray offers in the UK? The best I can find is Play's 3 for 2 offer. 3 titles for £46 doesn't really float my boat. I know a lot of the USA titles are region free, the postage hits you in the nuts though.
Ain't It Shill News by SoylentMean	Jan 5th, 2008 09:56:40 AM
I just posted a jibe at Memories of Murder because of his constant loathing of Transformers. One of my two major gripes about that film was the rampant product placement. But now, AICN has stepped up to the plate. Jeez. All we needed to know was that Warner Bros. has decided to go Blu-Ray exclusive, but the whole thing turned into an ad for various products (complete with links). Now I like it when we get new DVD or new TV DVD news and I fully expect the products and their links to be there. But jeez, this tidbit of info turned into a frickin' commercial. Nice to see you have the spare dough to waste on things like Casanova and The Guardian, Harry.
I FUCKING HATE BLU RAY! by judge dredds fresh undies	Jan 5th, 2008 09:57:08 AM
I was a staunch blue ray support purely because of the capacity issue. But then I find out that half the discs are only single layer and not even making use of the potential capacity because of the manufacturing costs. Then throw in the fact that all the early BR discs used shitty old codecs, their draconian antipiracy features, region encoding and the still un-resolved java crap and you have a format which is a horrible prospect compared to HDDVD.
I have not been blown away with HD-DVD... or Blue Ray. by vittala23	Jan 5th, 2008 09:58:32 AM
I only have a 40" 720p LCD TV but have not been blown away with the difference between HD-DVD & regular DVD's at 420p. Dont get me wrong there is a difference but its just not that big of one to merit the $20 price difference in DVD prices nor the cost of buying a blue ray player too.... Now broadcast or cable TV compared to HD TV is a huge difference but I find myself watching HD movies and just not being blown away sitting on my couch 10 feet away... At least I can rent HD-DVD through Netflix and not have to pay any extra cost which is how I will watch most of my HD-DVDs as I am not being raped by the current prices. Blue Ray & HD are both just ways to rape e consumer of their hard earned money.
theoretically, you should really need to sit by noiretblanc	Jan 5th, 2008 10:07:39 AM
= or < 5 feet away from a 40 inch tv to notice a drastic difference. as the tv gets bigger, you can start to move back proportionately.
Not worth it by ZooTrain	Jan 5th, 2008 10:15:24 AM
So, people ARE dumb enough to re-purchase all of their DVDs? I have a relatively small collection compared to a lot collectors (only about 650 titles), and if they think I'm buying all of those over again, they're sorely mistaken. What's going to happen in another five years when they come out with yet another format?
aculardvsdracula...he was a SCOTSMAN! by Uncapie	Jan 5th, 2008 10:16:52 AM
Connor McCloud from Clan McCloud. Now, for your pennance; you must eat a delcicious, warm bowl of haggis.
I don't particularly care, but... by Billy The Fish	Jan 5th, 2008 10:22:29 AM
...if there are two formats and one of them involves money ending up in Bill Gates's pocket, then I'm going with the other one.
HD DVD = BETAMAX, BLU RAY = VHS by J-Dizzle	Jan 5th, 2008 10:25:39 AM
Long live Blu Ray!
Harry is not smart, folks.... by Mindworm22	Jan 5th, 2008 10:26:34 AM
....and anyone who thought that his keen insight and love of movies was going to help him divine the future of tech was fooling themselves. I'm 100% positive that Harry got a nice, big, fat kickback (maybe with a paid honeymoon on top?) to pimp HD-DVD. Go back and look at his posts. But if you ever stopped to read Harry's comments, they were riddled with incorrect info and ridiculous supposition. (My favorite being "backwards compatibility just feels right", insinuating that BluRay couldn't do it -- which is as far from the truth as it gets.) Harry is a nice guy it sounds like from what folks have posted here, and he's put together a web site I really dig for the most part. But his shilling for the HD-DVD camp has been nothing short of abominable, and has truly hurt his credibility with myself and I think many on this site. When he used to have "Cool News", he ran with it. Now --- now he's dug such a hole from being bought out --- I don't know if he, or this site, can recover. I almost feel like he's Krusty from the Simpsons in the episode where he gains huge cred for "telling it like it is", then throws it all away in the end to pimp some car -- "The Canyon", if memory serves correct. It's pretty sad, all in all.
The PS3 stops selling, so will Blu-Ray. Fact. by MaxTheSilent	Jan 5th, 2008 10:27:03 AM
The ONLY thing Blu-Ray has EVER had to crow about over HD-DVD was this myth of larger capacity. Although I've yet to find a single Blu-Boi who could tell me exactly WHAT that extra space was ever used for seeing as though Blu-Ray has NO Interactive or online capabilities. My only guess is the space was needed in the early days to accommodate the woefully outdated codecs that chewed up disc space. Tell me, when exactly WILL there be Profile 2.0 players and titles in stores? And will ANY current players be capable of playing them. I'm going to enjoy watching Blu-Ray destroy itself over the next few months. That's what you get for picking Sony.
Now we have something to make very clear to player manufacturers by Brendon	Jan 5th, 2008 10:28:39 AM
We want multi-region Blu Ray players. I don't care if this function has to be hidden behind a remote hack, I still want to see these players on shelves ASAP.
Predictable outcome by SpencerTrilby	Jan 5th, 2008 10:30:30 AM
almost as predictable as the UMD downfall.
More info... by Mindworm22	Jan 5th, 2008 10:34:52 AM
http://www.highdefdigest.com/n ews/show/CES_2008/HD_DVD_Promo _Group_Cancels_CES_Press_Confe rence/1331
"I'M SHORT ON CASH!" - HARRY by la_sith	Jan 5th, 2008 10:44:57 AM
gee....I seem to recall someone saying that he'd buy a Blu-ray player when he had the cash. Seems that someone fell into an awful lot of money if that's the case, seeing the Denon and Epson gear he just got. Ka-CHING! Whut happund, Harry?
The general consumer isn't buying either one by SoylentMean	Jan 5th, 2008 10:48:32 AM
Both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray are ridiculously expensive in comparison to DVD prices. The average consumer isn't buying into the supposedly better features (last time I checked DVDs still had the movies, and unless you have eagle eyes the difference isn't that huge to Joe Blo from Idaho). Although I must admit that as a collector of film I do want the best presentation of my favorite films for my collection. I just want it to be available in an inexpensive, non-elitist format. The only way I see either of these formats sticking around is a fusion of the two formats (after all the only player I ever really thought about buying was a Blu-Ray/HD-DVD dual format player). Besides, with all the economic news being about rising oil prices and an impending recession, "upgrading" to a newer, more expensive format seems foolish for the average consumer. Oh, and DVDs are cheap!!!!!!
dvds didn't catch on until at least 3 years into the format's li by noiretblanc	Jan 5th, 2008 10:53:18 AM
so, all of you people that say hd media aren't catching on are being way too impatient. we're barely at a year in hdformat's life, you kooks.
I FUCKINGFUCKINGFUCKINGFUCKING REFUSE!! by FlickaPoo	Jan 5th, 2008 10:53:43 AM
to buy one more film that I already own in two previous incarnations...that's it. I'm out. Going to go out and buy myself a Cosby sweater...listen to nothing but crackly old jazz recordings on scratchy vinyl and polish my dentures. I will not spend another dime on this neverending fucking corporate plastic box treadmill of crap that you won't even be able to GIVE away at a garage sale in seven years.
Universal and Dreamworks by Mindworm22	Jan 5th, 2008 10:55:20 AM
...is only a 1.5 year exclusive contract, with about a year to go. According to the tech rags, their is an out as well that will allow them to go BluRay if the industry turns that direction. (I don't know the validity of the contract information -- just repeating what I've read.)
PS3 sales... by Mindworm22	Jan 5th, 2008 10:59:43 AM
...are through the roof, and they expect to have 11 million by fiscal end installed. So to Max The Silent, on a product with a predicted 10 year lifespan (just look at how strong the PS2 still is), PS3 ain't going no where. With the HD-DVD consortium cancelling their CES conference, I think the white flag is up. For it's first year of being available, BluRay has done very well in comparison to how DVD did in it's infancy as well. If anyone cares to look at the history of it all, many said that when the PS2 had DVD capabilities they were shooting themselves in the foot as well. Look how that turned out....
black & white, not all kooks by SoylentMean	Jan 5th, 2008 11:01:26 AM
Just pointing out that most folks are pretty happy with their existing dvd players and aren't buying into the supposedly better formats. They are better, but not that much better that it becomes necessary to invest in 1st generation models and disc releases.
New Line and HBO going Blu Exclusive too... by Mindworm22	Jan 5th, 2008 11:05:24 AM
http://www.themanroom.com/news /New_Line_Confirms_Going_Blu-r ay_Exclusive/1889
Warner doesn't know shit about DVD's/High Def/ Blu Ray by jimmy_009	Jan 5th, 2008 11:05:58 AM
Look at the shitty discs they put out for the last decade: No extras, cheap-ass cardboard cases, bad transfers...they even made you turn off the subtitles ever time you watch a fucking movie. What makes anyone think they suddenly are on the ball as far as which format to go with? Fuck Warner Bros home video dept. They have their heads up their asses.
My take on all this... by Snake-eyes	Jan 5th, 2008 11:10:45 AM
One month ago i finally caved in and dumped my beloved CRT (which admittedly was on its last legs) along with my trusty ol’ DVD player, and finally entered the world of HD. After massive deliberation I bought a 42" Pioneer PDP-428XD (and dear god it's a lovely tv!), and I also decided to go ‘red’ and bought the Toshiba E-35 HD-DVD player and about 10 or so films (all of which were faves of mine that had received rave reviews for their image quality). First of all, to all you doubters of HD…. it rocks, end of story! There can be no argument that the image quality of HD, when viewed via quality hardware is unbelievable! But almost as satisfying was the excellent upscaling of all my normal DVDs. For example, when I watched my normal DVD’s of LOST, they knocked my socks off. They could just of well of been HD versions they were that good!! So to those who are under the impression they’re gonna have to replace their entire DVD collection… don’t be daft! In reality, you’d only really ‘need’ to replace your favourite films/shows with HD versions. The upscaling features of most HD players and receivers are more than enough to keep the remaining DVDs in your collection perfectly useable. As for the ‘war’, well we all knew there had to be one winner. Having two formats was definitely confusing and frustrating the general public. In a way I’ll be glad when there is only one format to choose from. And yeah, this Warner move to BLU-RAY is probably going to mean the end of HD-DVD but… a) that won’t be happening for many, many months yet, and b) it doesn’t mean that people who went with HD-DVD are left with expensive paper-weights. I mean, they still work ffs, and work REALLY well too. All it means for me is that in a few months time, once the hysteria has subsided I’ll review the situation and maybe buy a BLU-RAY player as well – effectively going ‘purple’ as some call it. No big deal guys.
NEW LINE AND HBO ARE ALSO PART OF THE DEAL by dtpena	Jan 5th, 2008 11:14:57 AM
They'll just announce it later, in another press conference. This is confirmed.
OK Snake-eyes...I feel a little better... by FlickaPoo	Jan 5th, 2008 11:16:02 AM
...you speak decent sense. I still feel grumpy though, could you make me some chicken noodle soup?
Another example of studio GREED fucking the public over by HarryBlackPotter	Jan 5th, 2008 11:18:19 AM
Cock-sucking, money grabbing studio execs don't give a fuck who wins the war, or which format is better, they just want to know who's gonna give them more green to feed their coke and whore habit. Warners deal with Sony / Blu Ray was probably done in a seedy motel room at 3am, with a load of bugle on the table and hookers on standby once the deal had been done. Fuck, even Tom Sizemore and Linday Lohan got an invite. So know Warners are in Sony's back pocket - good for them, I hope it was really good fucking coke. As for me, I'm happy with my trusty old X-Box 360 DVD strap-on until George Lucas rips my back-doors off with the inevitable Blu-Ray Star Wars release where Jar Jar shoots first.
President Baltar by EliteStance	Jan 5th, 2008 11:21:50 AM
The reason this is seen as death of HD DVD when Paramount wasn't seen as death of BR is to do with percentage marketshare. Warners move means that approx 70% of market is now BR exclusive (Warners are largest player accounting for around 20% of DVD sales, but Disney makes up a lot too and Fox, etc.) vs 30% on HD DVD (Paramount, etc). Now, one thing for sure is that none of the studios want two formats - so this is seen as tipping the balance too far in BR favour. The other studios will now dump HD DVD like hot potato and jump on BR bandwagon so that all the studios can begin to work marketing to move us all (and gain new customers) to BR over DVD. Also, at the risk of sounding morbid, to answer those complaining of buying in new format again - the studios don't really care because there is constant stream of new consumers being born and hitting age to start buying and that (coupled with the folks who must have the best picture) is their target market. For all they care you can stay on DVD for a long time - although eventually you'll see that new material is only BR (although that point is a ways off yet) so you'll need to invest in BR eventually to keep buying (or renting) movies. As for MS using 360 to push HD DVD - forget it. MS are behind digital downloads and backed HD DVD more to hurt Sony PS3 sales. Whatever they do with PCs ain't gonna affect movie players and no way will they risk harming 360 sales by sticking a presumed dead format in it. If anything they'll release a seperate BR drive at some point. Although, if they were playing integrated HD DVD you can bet they're hastily unplanning it right about now.
Help! by EliteStance	Jan 5th, 2008 11:23:28 AM
How come I put in spaces between paragraphs and they vanish when I hit 'post'? Why can't I edit and why does this forum have much less functionality than others I use? Oh, and thanks in advance for any assistance.
Davywankenobi has chosen his format... by davywankenobi	Jan 5th, 2008 11:24:20 AM
DVD. Does anybody think that DVD won't carry us to the file transfer age? Why go buy some new format only good for 5 years or so? My DVDs look GREAT on a HD tv and I really don't need it any better until it's downloadable. That's the only sane thing to do.
CES HD DVD Press Conference Canceled by Orionsangels	Jan 5th, 2008 11:24:44 AM
"Based on the timing of the Warner Home Video announcement today, we have decided to postpone our CES 2008 press conference scheduled for Sunday, January 6th at 8:30 p.m. in the Wynn Hotel. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. We are currently discussing the potential impact of this announcement with the other HD DVD partner companies and evaluating next steps. We believe the consumer continues to benefit from HD DVD's commitment to quality and affordability - a bar that is critical for the mainstream success of any format. We'll continue to keep you updated on new developments around HD DVD."
I am a FANBOI... by kikuchiyoboy	Jan 5th, 2008 11:27:14 AM
of film. I'm ultra happy that onside one. I love watching my high def films and honestly can see a BIG difference on the 50" screen. Watching Unforgiven, 2001, The Shining, Wild Bunch(which was my first dvd I ever bought), Rescue Dawn, Hellboy, Pan's Labyrinth, and Corpse Bride looks leaps ahead of the dvd's. Corpse Bride almost looks 3D. I don't know it's a wondefull step up. I'm just happy that Blu one cause that's what I chose. I've had no problems with it so far but it may be because I'm watching on a PS3. If HD-DVD won then well, I guess I would just had to have to get another player at the end of the year. People are freaking only because they invested some cash into something that turnded out not to work out in the long run. It sucks, but that's that. Just sit down and enjoy the movies that will hopefully spill out before us. No one says you have to re-buy or even upgrade to HD. It's just an option in life. An option I'm stoked for. It's NOT ELITIST! Friggen dvd players were over 500 bucks when it first started. Hell mine was $230 in the year 2000. As for warner shoving out shite films... check out the new Kubrick collection on dvd or any of it's HD counterparts. Check out,if you can, Wild Bunch, Batman Begins(HD-DVD) or Matrix(HD-DVD) and a tell me they are not doing their job. Anyways, I'm excited for films like the Bourne's, Batman Begins, The First Matrix, Big Lebowski and Fear and Loathing finally port over to blu-ray. Can't wait to see which films will be next on the restoration process... West Side Story, Ran(Not holding my breath for that one), LAURENCE OF FRIGGEN ARABIA MOTHA FUCKERS!!!!! And out.
Wow by kikuchiyoboy	Jan 5th, 2008 11:29:43 AM
I should proof read before clicking "Post talkback". My Post is an eyesore.
Hot Damn, I need to see Highlander now by AlwaysThere	Jan 5th, 2008 11:33:55 AM
That quote has got me going.
not propoganda? u asses by movieManiac	Jan 5th, 2008 11:34:10 AM
I love how people say, HD sold 5 times as much as BD not counting PS3 sales. Ummm, why not? PS3 is a legitimate blu-ray player. In fact, according to Gizmodo, the strongest Blu-ray player on the market. Why the fuck wouldn't you count PS3 sales? Its because when you do count PS3's, the stats weight heavily in blu-ray's favor.
EliteStance by kikuchiyoboy	Jan 5th, 2008 11:35:06 AM
< b r > minus the spaces of course. That should help you with your problem. just < b r > twice and you've got a space between paragraphs.
HD-DVD likes to play wth their numbers by Bramton1	Jan 5th, 2008 11:35:46 AM
They claim that you can't include PS3s in the Blu-Ray players because it's predominantly a gaming system (meanwhile I've heard that some people in the market for a Blu-Ray player were told to buy a PS3 because it's one of the better ones. Yet the HD-DVD folks turn about and claim that on average, HD-DVD owners have more movies for their player than Blu-Ray, but they include PS3 owners in those numbers.
FlickaPoo and EliteStance... by Snake-eyes	Jan 5th, 2008 11:37:04 AM
FlickaPoo, sorry mate i only got a Chicken Pot Noodle... will that do? :P EliteStance, you can add paragraphs by using < p > and < / p > before and after your sentences. Oh and a linebreak is added by using < br > (remove the spaces ofc)
t by EliteStance	Jan 5th, 2008 11:40:50 AM

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Testing by EliteStance	Jan 5th, 2008 11:41:35 AM
And apparently accidently double posting!
jimmy_009, on Warner Bros. DVD's... by LoneGun	Jan 5th, 2008 11:46:09 AM
I didn't like their cardboard cases, either. But I have found that Warner Bros. often makes exceptional transfers of their films onto DVD, especially their classics. Have you seen their Special Edition of CASABLANCA? The quality is absolutely mind-blowing, like it was made yesterday. Also, one of the first DVD's I ever got was Warner's TRAINING DAY, and I'm still very impressed with the transfer of that one.
DVDs are fine for now by ZoeFan	Jan 5th, 2008 11:51:47 AM
However as the price of Blu Ray goes down DVDs will become VHS-like. And by mid-2009 50% of you "I won't rebuy all my movies" people will have rebought most of your entire catalog of movies in Blu Ray format. Mark my words.
I hope there's one last by kikuchiyoboy	Jan 5th, 2008 11:53:30 AM
HUGE BOGO for both formats. Something that includes majority of the titles. But alas... it looks as if those days are over. Now we just have to wait for saturation and price drops.
Chicken Pot Soup it is... by FlickaPoo	Jan 5th, 2008 11:54:00 AM
...but I'm keeping the Cosby sweater.
I'm not buying a fucking thing til this format war is over and d by Merlox	Jan 5th, 2008 12:14:52 PM
...so hurry up already!
Wow. Just...wow. I want it all in HD DVD. by JDanielP	Jan 5th, 2008 12:35:07 PM
Looks like our dvd collection will continue (and that's not a bad thing), along with HD downloads. No Blu-ray for us. At least, upscaling standard dvd is a nice option.
LoneGun by jimmy_009	Jan 5th, 2008 12:37:46 PM
I'm thinking of all my WB Tim Burton movies that look like crap, especially in the dark regions. Not to mention how there are virtually no special features. Ditto Goonies, one disc, barely any special features. Also the WB Seven disc I have is garbage, it's like I'm watching it over the internet. The Harry Potter discs are pretty good. I've noticed they started doing the plastic cases like everyone else. I guess they got tired of being the cheap eyesore of the DVD market. But I'll never forgive them for making me turn off the subtitles before I watch one of their older discs. I mean, 1% of the market requires subtitles, so they make 99% turn them off instead of the other way around. Dumb shits.
No need to watch romantic comedies in HD. by JDanielP	Jan 5th, 2008 12:46:15 PM
I only wanted HD for the big blockbusters and visually interesting titles, anyway. If I can't get the titles I want in HD-DVD, then I'll watch them a different way. But it will not be Blu-ray.
Bring On The Fire Sale! by A-COD	Jan 5th, 2008 12:47:52 PM
If you are strongly taking one side over the other, your a loser. This was all corporate warfare from the start. The way to go was obviously going to be the LG combo player once they ironed out all the bugs. It's a good thing HD-DVD existed because they pushed Sony to add interactivity. I can't wait to buy a HD-DVD player on clearance and load up on discounted HD-DVDs.
i would love for hd downloads to be rolled out this year by noiretblanc	Jan 5th, 2008 12:52:10 PM
so that people can have fun downloading 3 movies at the same time for a whole week before they can see them. i wonder how many people have 1.5 mb dsl. i would love for them to start downloading so much as standard def movies
"But she's got a new hat!" by WhoDis	Jan 5th, 2008 12:52:23 PM
sincerely, Waylon Smithers
A-COD by Mindworm22	Jan 5th, 2008 12:53:16 PM
BRD was always to have interactivity built in, the java type and final specs just weren't finalized when the product kicked off. With ethernet ports on most players (not all -- which was a huge mistake on Sony's part), making the upgrade to v. 1.1 is as simple as downloading porn. PS3 has been 1.1 ready since the end of last year.
FUCK THIS...I JUST WANT A CRYSTAL CLEAR FLETCH by leobloom	Jan 5th, 2008 12:53:30 PM

Oh well, the $100 Toshiba I bought.... by ckane123	Jan 5th, 2008 12:53:54 PM
IS a great upscale DVD player as well. Waiting patiently for Bluray to his $200 and then I'll bite. I only hope that HD-DVD stays in the market long enough to drive entry level blu-ray players to $99...
Toshiba's comment (link) by JDanielP	Jan 5th, 2008 01:03:47 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article /pressRelease/idUS230058+04-Ja n-2008+PRN20080104
Bramton1 nailed it. by zool43	Jan 5th, 2008 01:06:39 PM
HD-DVD supporters always use that faulty logic to back up their format.
I have both is it legal to have both??? by picardsucks	Jan 5th, 2008 01:07:11 PM
Jeez never realized there were som many shills suckling the peepees of Sony and Toshiba execs here. I bought both because they are relatively cheap and Paramount is still HD exclusive. Digital Bits Sony dick sucker won't kidnap me and force me to choose Blu-ray at gun point will they??? Bill Hunt loves him some Sony exec peepee all over his tastebuds!!!
Still not buying a PS3 or BD player... by Zardoz	Jan 5th, 2008 01:20:08 PM
I don't need a gaming system with no games that I want to play and I guess I'll settle for an upconverting DVD player. And to those people saying sell your Toshiba players and HD-DVD's: why would I do that? They still work fine! Hell, I still have a VHS player and and a Laser-disc player! (Still a few titles that are only available on LD and no copyguard on LD's either!) If anything, I'll wait for the other HD-DVD owners to panic, sell their stuff and then buy it myself for ultra-cheap at Amoeba...(which is what I did with LD's) Besides, while the writing may be on the wall, it ain't over yet, fanboys...
you'll buy a ps3 or br player by the end of the year by noiretblanc	Jan 5th, 2008 01:26:04 PM
though. ;)
I don't mind choice. In fact, it's nice to have choices. by JDanielP	Jan 5th, 2008 01:26:31 PM
Give us more movies for download, Hollywood.
yep by WhoDis	Jan 5th, 2008 01:28:30 PM
those fucking movie companies want consumers to get all excited about "new hats" and such. I couldn't give a fuck. If I've already got a movie, that's it I'm done. I don't care what you put on the "new one". I ain't buying it. On the same page, if I don't have a movie and a "special edition" is coming years down the pike, I ain't waiting. Bullshit. Fuck you. Go to hell. I'm not playing their game. It's all about the power of the dollar. If you faint every time they enhance their little studio farts and spend your money rewarding them for endless upgrades that are virtually meaningless (I mean, they rarely are changing the actual film itself--it's just more or different extras) then YOU ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE PROBLEM. It's like the remake/sequel thing. If you go see them, you are contributing to the problem. Since I don't like these things, I don't spend my money on them.
AND Harry can watch all his regular DVDs on HD-DVD! by Flip63Hole	Jan 5th, 2008 01:32:37 PM
And since HD-DVD has "DVD" in its name, it works better.
More Harry B.S.; "I prefer the interactivity of HD DVD" by Flip63Hole	Jan 5th, 2008 01:33:14 PM
Blu-Rays aren't interactive???
a choice of something very gimped is hardly a choice by noiretblanc	Jan 5th, 2008 01:37:50 PM
at all
GIMPED? by kikuchiyoboy	Jan 5th, 2008 01:50:32 PM
2001 looking crystal clear and fully functional in my blu player... Gimped... what evs. The movies play and look awesome. Why is everyone still complaining. Just let us enjoy our films in HD in peace from now on and let this bickering stop. Let's do some real rallying and ask for more restoration and MORE HD FILMS!!!
i wasn't talking about the original topic (wb choosing blu) by noiretblanc	Jan 5th, 2008 01:57:11 PM
i was talking about movie downloading as it exists currently and will probably exist all of this year. bandwidth is terrible and will continue to be terrible probably until fios is everywhere. it won't certainly be mainstream this year.
Ah. by kikuchiyoboy	Jan 5th, 2008 02:05:39 PM
Woops. Sorry to jump the gun. I hope movie rental downloads become viable soon. Apple, Netflix, Amazon.... in which ever form it would be nice when you're traveling for work or whatever you could watch on the go. As for owning the film... Hard disc is still the way to go for better quality. Especially when it comes down to what you have said.
Oh Blu-ray ....Oh Yeah ...Oh my Blu-ray biotch by picardsucks	Jan 5th, 2008 02:25:51 PM
Do the new Blu-ray come with a docking port for your peepee's???? Mine doesn't have one. Must be pretty great though that people are more passionate about a soon to be obsolete technology that more important things in life. Does alot of this have to do with PS3 owners trying to tie this into a win for them somehow??? Although I have both blu-ray and HD DVD if I had to own one piece of hardware to go along with my new 65" Mitsu DLP it would in fact be my xbox 360. The future of movie rentals are marketplace downloads.
Zardoz... by Mindworm22	Jan 5th, 2008 02:41:17 PM
People like you make me laugh. Hard.
What's the XBOX 360 then? by kikuchiyoboy	Jan 5th, 2008 02:43:12 PM
Your bunghole plug? =) Sorry. Couldn't resist. I could care less what label is what. Just make some product that I can enjoy, then I'll vedge.
NICE HOME THEATER SETUP, HARRY by BringingSexyBack	Jan 5th, 2008 02:51:24 PM
How about throwing a party for the TBers so we can judge for ourselves which format is best? And make sure there's plenty of Cool Ranch Doritos ...
I have chosen DVD-RAY, and HERE'S WHY... by ZeroCorpse	Jan 5th, 2008 02:55:05 PM
Love that cliche. Had to use it again. It's like a drug. Gimme more cowbell- blu-ray- HAS A BEER AND CHEETS ON HIS WIFE!!! Sorry. I'm having a meltdown. After reading what Joe Quesada did to Spider-Man in One More Day, I think my brain's broken.
BRAGGER! by jah_kingdom	Jan 5th, 2008 03:16:19 PM
Look at me, I can afford a Denon receiver and i have 230 hd-dvd titles. I have a rear projection system and its all paid for by shilling propaganda for babylon. Harry sounds like such a douche bag im embarressed for him and myself for even liking this website.
But... but... HD-DVD has 'DVD' IN THE TITLE!!! by Johnno	Jan 5th, 2008 03:27:34 PM
I don't understand!!!! How could it lose????!!!! You HD-DVD bastards lied to me!!!!
I'm going back to the far superior VHS by ye olde shiza	Jan 5th, 2008 03:56:22 PM
Nothing compares to the sweet love of VHS tapes! Eat that Sony! Toshiba! Dickholes to you.
Will someone send a message to Microsoft... by JDanielP	Jan 5th, 2008 04:01:55 PM
...that we could use many more HD movie selections on Xbox Live? Since getting married and gaining a family, I've missed out on too many flicks....including those flicks that've gotten (at least some) positive word, here at AICN. To be honest, I'm not a fan of the horror genre (though I am a fan of some movies that contain horror)...but if I really was such a fan, I'd have plenty of horror movie options on Xbox Live. But what I want available in HD download...is more of the BIG BUDGET BLOCKBUSTERS, especially in the fantasy and sci-fi genres. And how cool would it be if they made a number of Oscar-worthy flicks from 2007 available? Give me more options, please! Maybe AICN could sponsor a flick on Xbox Live download, like something low-budget or foreign, that may otherwise be underexposed. (If that was the case, I would more likely check it out.)
Blu-ray, disc space and downloading movies... by AllanUSC	Jan 5th, 2008 04:36:11 PM
To MaxTheSilent and all those that ask "tell me exactly WHAT that extra space was ever used for," please remember that one of HD-DVD's flagship releases, TRANSFORMERS, was adversely affected by HD-DVD's limited capacity. To quote the review from High-Def Digest: "...the question was asked almost immediately -- why no Dolby TrueHD or uncompressed PCM? The studio's answer was that due to space limitations on the disc, the decision was made to limit the audio to Dolby Digital-Plus 5.1 Surround only (here at 1.5mbps). Unfortunately, this confirms the long-held theory that the 30Gb capacity of an HD-30 dual-layer HD DVD disc has forced studios to choose between offering a robust supplements package (as they've done here) and the very best in audio quality." FACT You say that we will be "watching Blu-Ray destroy itself over the next few months" so my guess is that you are predicting, even with the Warner Bros. news, Blu-ray will fail. Are you serious? What facts do you have to back up your prediction? davywankenobi, do you really think that DVDs will "carry us to the file transfer age"? As has been said elsewhere before, for that to be realistic internet connection speeds will have to be about 50 times faster than they are now. And once those faster internet speeds are available, do you realize how much storage space will be required to store a decent movie collection? If we assume that, with advanced codecs, we can compress a high-def movie into 15 GB of space, a 700-movie collection (probably typical with this crowd) would require 10.5 TERABYTES of disc space!! To put that into perspective, if you went out and bought a new Dell computer today with a larger than typical 500 GB hard drive (currently $1,029.00 for a base model), you would need the equivalent of twenty-one (21!!) computers to store just your movies!! If movies on disc cost an average of $20 each, 700 movies would cost $14000. The 21 computers needed to store those movies, at today's prices, would cost $21609 and you still wouldn't have any physical media!! And what happens when your hard drives start failing, as they all eventually do? You would lose your investment or, at the very least, have to download your content all over again. The fact is, most people will always want physical media they can hold on to. Virtual ownership of a movie is, at best, temporary. And how would you bring your copy of TRANSFORMERS to a friend's place? Face it, movie downloading services will never catch on with the typical consumer.
what's so funny, mindworm? by Zardoz	Jan 5th, 2008 04:42:59 PM
that I don't want to shell out more money on another HD system? Or that I have no use for a PS3? Or that I still own VHS and LD? Just curious...
I have a X-BOX360 and it is a great gaming console... by travis-dane	Jan 5th, 2008 04:49:22 PM
and a friend of mine has a PS3,it is also a great console.The POWER of both consoles is really good,the games look pretty much the same(COD4:modern warfare and the DARKNESS look great on both).But neither of us would use it as a movie player,because it sucks to look movies on consoles(pay extra for a remote control,extra for HD-DVD part,and so on...).Who looks DVD`s on a PS2,is there anybody?It is like DVD and VHS back in the 90`s,when the majority of movie companies and big TECH companies choose side for one system the other one is DEAD(and BETAMAX was far better then VHS,and we all know how this one ended)!I am for no side here but I think HD-DVD is done by the end of the year.And then when all is One system the prices for soft and hardware will drop,so that anybody will enjoy the new shit!And standard DVD will be gone at the latest in 2010.And to all the PS3 vs.X-BOX 360 guys:dont forget that NINTENDO`s Wii last year outsold both contenders combined by the double(proving that innovation is still working)!But in the end,everybody should go with the system that he likes the most,and going apeshit at other systems leads to nothing.Thank`s for your time(my longest post so far).
Harry got spanked, so lets bring him back to the fold by johnyaztec	Jan 5th, 2008 04:49:28 PM
I love Harry, I really do. But as of late he has gotten to far away from what he does best. Harry is now paying the price for selling out to a corporation. I think this will bring him back down to our level and I see this site getting back on track because of this. I love this site and I want to see it last longer than me.
New Line Has Followed Suit by filegumbo	Jan 5th, 2008 05:11:33 PM
Not surprising but now official. New Line is Blu-Ray exclusive.
Harry... by Lord_Soth	Jan 5th, 2008 05:12:05 PM
Man, you're like a clueless ball in a table tennis match. Do you even have a paying job? How can you afford this HD mania with such nonsenses?
AllenUSC:most people want to lay hands... by travis-dane	Jan 5th, 2008 05:14:26 PM
on the shit they are buying!At least me.You are just on the point AllenUSC.And I love it to go to a really BIG FUCKING MEGASTORE and spend hours to go through thousends of DVD`s!And deep in his HEART every REAL MOVIELOVER get`s a real BIG BONER when he is sitting at home and is looking at his huge whatever medium Movie collection,all the TV-shows,special editions and what not(not to mention when normal folks come by and get that amazed look on their faces,you all know what I mean)!Now IMAGINE all your MOVIES in a FUCKING computer,where is the "OH SHIT I HAVE A FUCKING GREAT MOVIE COLLECTION"feeling!A fucking list on a PC is not the same!
Tech Guys win the WAR!!!!!!!! by Lashlarue	Jan 5th, 2008 05:17:58 PM
Idiot losers who actually buy their crappy HD players lose.
10 years from now.... by Lashlarue	Jan 5th, 2008 05:21:32 PM
Another incredible format, you simply have to buy! SUCKER!
Digital Downloads by 69DUDE	Jan 5th, 2008 05:22:23 PM
I wish people would shut the fuck up saying that digital downloads are the future of HD movies. Have you ever tried downloading a STANDARD def film? It's fucking torture. Let alone one 3/4 times the size. Anyone who thinks downloads are the future, are just the sort of customer that Microshit loves - the sort that love to spend their money and get nothing for it. Physical media FTW.
just got an ad-h3 for christmas by marv42134213	Jan 5th, 2008 05:27:22 PM
I was happy than a dog with two you-know-whats, then I read that everything is going blue-ray. Never having watched a blue-ray disk, I have to ask, it it really that much better? I'm pretty stoked with the hd player. Does this announcemtn mean that all blue-ray movies will never come out on high-def, or will it just take forever. I know I can't afford to buy every different kind of player that comes along. Oh well, I guess a few years from now they will have a green-ray player or something and we will all be hosed. It would be nice if one of these multi-million dollar companies would come out with a player that actually played both. I know I don't plan on buying fifteen copies of batman begins or pan's labrynith, no matter how much I like them. Thanks for listening and I wish all of you a better new year than the last one.
69DUDE what fucking century you living in mate? by bongo123	Jan 5th, 2008 05:27:25 PM
i download all my HD movies, they weigh in around 10-15gigs, 1080p 5.1 and fucking perfect quality, and i can pull in about 2-3 a night! i know guys that can pull TB's of shit off the net, maybe if you got yourself a half decent connection and knew how to use newsgroups, you'd see that the future is digital downloads and not re-buying every fucking dvd you have just so hollywood can make more money of you
then again i do buy the good ones.... by bongo123	Jan 5th, 2008 05:29:39 PM
so i guess Hollywood still makes money offa me... cunts
Blu-ray winning will only prove that by Lemming	Jan 5th, 2008 05:30:24 PM
people are fucking morons, especially studio execs. Nevermind that the PS3 is the only Blu-rayer player that's selling. Nevermind that the PS3 is the trailing THIRD in a console war. The last person you want to do is give the Sony-monkey the key to the banana plantation. But people will do it regardless, because they are clueless fucks.
Bongo123 by 69DUDE	Jan 5th, 2008 05:30:56 PM
So, I've got to pay out for a ridiculously expensive connection, trawl through paedo-infested newsgroups and then end up watching on some PC monitor? How is that good?
Marv421...:There are players that play both systems. by travis-dane	Jan 5th, 2008 05:38:24 PM
Just GOOGLE them!
travis-dane by marv42134213	Jan 5th, 2008 05:51:42 PM
thank you for the info. Too much out of my 8.00 and hour price range, but maybe they will come down in the future. I am just hoping that hd-dvd's don't go away. does anyone know if some titles go on blue-ray for a bit, then go on sale on HD? Sorry for sounding like a newby, but I am one. Thanks again for the info
Marv421...:Universal and Paramount are still... by travis-dane	Jan 5th, 2008 06:01:38 PM
Exclusive on HD-DVD I think.Warner Brothers will still put out HD-DVD`s to later this year.Maybe if Disney goes HD-DVD it will change something,but i think HD-DVD will be dead by the end of 2008.But I could be wrong on that.
Digital Downloads by AllanUSC	Jan 5th, 2008 06:33:29 PM
Bongo123, how much do you pay for the high-def movies you download from those newsgroups? Nothing, you say? They're free? Great. I'm sure producers are willing to support that. How many of those downloaded movies do you kee

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