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30 rock and Friday Night Lights are still new? by waggy	Jan 4th, 2008 12:35:22 AM
Shit, i assumed they were already done. guess i have some catching up to do
An 8 episode season of LOST?!! by L.H.Puttgrass	Jan 4th, 2008 12:43:51 AM
AWW, HAILL NAWW!!!! SHIT! SHIT!! SHIT!!!
meanwhile, 20 years in the future by smackfu	Jan 4th, 2008 12:50:28 AM
some guy is in a store staring at the back of the box for Lost Season 4 in HD HoloDisk and wondering why the fuck 1 out of 7 seasons is only 8 episodes long, but he still has to pay 300 Quatludes for it.
hey herc by birdy birdman	Jan 4th, 2008 12:51:12 AM
when does the new season of The Shield start? haven't heard much about this in regards to the strike from anywhere and hadn't really even considered it until right now...the shield just seems like such a staple of the new year...
...i hadn't even considered the possibility by birdy birdman	Jan 4th, 2008 12:52:16 AM
of it being postponed
Jett, Smallville and Supernatural come back 31 January by Johnny Smith	Jan 4th, 2008 01:12:40 AM

trés gay... by couP	Jan 4th, 2008 01:17:30 AM
when's terminator even starting if it's "finale" is march 3.
"DUNT! DUNT!! DUNT!!!" by L.H.Puttgrass	Jan 4th, 2008 01:21:39 AM
"Another one bites the dust!" "DUNT! DUNT!! DUNT!!!" "Another one bites the dust!" "An' another one falls! An' another one falls!" "Another one bites the dust!" "Hey! It's gonna get you too!!" "Another one bites the DUST!! LOOK OUT!!"
smackfu by L.H.Puttgrass	Jan 4th, 2008 01:23:40 AM
It's funny 'cause it's true!
first! by tristeele	Jan 4th, 2008 01:25:10 AM

birdy birdman of the birdman variety... by Sledge Hammer	Jan 4th, 2008 01:30:38 AM
The final season of The Shield starts in early April. Can't wait, but I sure hope that the strike is over by then so that Ryan actually goes back to work long enough to tweak the final episode (if need be)...
Yes. by L.H.Puttgrass	Jan 4th, 2008 01:30:55 AM
You're the first "tristeele" post on this talkback. Be proud.
What about "Smallville"? by Mike_D	Jan 4th, 2008 01:42:45 AM
wtf?
Is CHUCK done? by BankyFan	Jan 4th, 2008 01:44:49 AM
I still have three left on my DVR - but if that's all there is, that's sad.
ER is still on? by skywalkerfamily	Jan 4th, 2008 01:53:34 AM
WTH!
Terminator premieres in Jan and ends in March... by Zardoz	Jan 4th, 2008 01:55:24 AM
that was quicker than expected!
First by OQuaTanginWann	Jan 4th, 2008 01:58:26 AM
Snuffleupagus
If you nuke a TV season, the only survivors will be... by L.H.Puttgrass	Jan 4th, 2008 01:58:35 AM
... The Cockroaches of Reality Television!! Get ready Hulkamaniacs!! Hulk Hogan is about to hit you upside the head with a very large padded (read: dildo) stick!
Terminator will probably be cancelled by March! by skywalkerfamily	Jan 4th, 2008 02:05:26 AM
When does Prison Break end?
See? But you people keep on supporting the writers by Sick Fixx	Jan 4th, 2008 02:17:55 AM
They obviously care so much about YOUR needs.
I'm begging for scabs to come out of the woodwork by Sick Fixx	Jan 4th, 2008 02:18:45 AM
There's nothing wrong with opportunism in this case. The people who occupied these jobs CHOSE to walk away. Their jobs have to go to somebody. It's all fair game now.
Lost has a great opportunity here by AlwaysThere	Jan 4th, 2008 02:23:52 AM
No competition for practically any of its 8 episodes this season.
What a screw-over for "Scrubs". by The Visco Kid	Jan 4th, 2008 02:58:51 AM
This is the show's last season and the last new episode certainly didn't do much to further along the remaining lose ends. I really would have liked to have seen what all Bill Lawrence had planned for the show. I guess now we'll be stuck with a rushed finale that will leave fans feeling empty and cheated. Sort of like the way "I Am Legend" did. Oh snap!
LOST finale is NOT March 20th. by oweny	Jan 4th, 2008 03:11:35 AM
...March 20th will be the 8th episode, which is only HALF way through the season. Lets not fool ourselves into pretending its a full season when it's not. The fact is, f*ck knows when the 16th (final) episode will be filmed, let alone broadcast.
And I agree with Sick Fixx by oweny	Jan 4th, 2008 03:14:58 AM
The writers are the ones shafting everyone else here; not the other way around. They're putting plenty of innocent bystanders out of work too. Not to mention punishing viewers for a mess not of their making.
As it stands, if neither side can be bothered by The Selecter	Jan 4th, 2008 03:28:27 AM
to make an effort to resolve this thing, why should anyone else give a shit? As if anybody outside NY or LA gave a shit anyway.
The Writers are the ones that Create these Shows. Not the Execut by The Outlander	Jan 4th, 2008 04:23:22 AM
Show a little respect.
when the tv is running down? by newc0253	Jan 4th, 2008 04:44:06 AM
'you make the best of what's still around'? i deserve points for spotting the obscure police reference.
At this point, by Pennsy	Jan 4th, 2008 06:04:46 AM
I don't care which side shows 'weakness' in going back to the bargaining table first, but one side or the other needs to do just that.
Oweny, the viewers aren't on either side's radar right now. by Pennsy	Jan 4th, 2008 06:09:35 AM
And won't be for the foreseeable future. Their interests are not either side's top priority. This could go on for the rest of the year, easy.
I'm wondering... by superfleish76	Jan 4th, 2008 06:22:09 AM
Let's play Pollyanna and say that the strike gets resolved in the next few weeks/months. Do the networks abandon the traditional "fall schedule" and bring some of these shows back early, since they got so little this season? It is an antiquated tradition, especially with the rise of the DVR.
MandalotianSage, your helmet speaker is set too loud by Creamery Butter	Jan 4th, 2008 06:34:36 AM
Remember when Peter Jackson was suing New Line because he wanted his cut of the LOTR profits and New Line said "Sorry, there aren't any?" despite being LOTR being a mega-blockbuster? Same deal with WGA wanting a cut of internet streaming revenue, not profits; they know that producers will use creative accounting to say "We don't make any profit on this -- don't know where the money went!" As for "millions being without entertainment"? Fuck 'em. Fuck 'em all. Entertainment is a privilege, not a right.
Hey! After all these shows are over... by Abin Sur	Jan 4th, 2008 07:20:21 AM
BSG starts up season 4 - now THERE'S the silver lining.
THE TRUTH ABOUT THE WRITER'S STRIKE by Average J.	Jan 4th, 2008 07:23:31 AM
Actually, I don’t even know why I’m bothering to clarify this for some of the misinformed individuals in the talkback here. But I guess it just really angers me when I read some of the ignorant comments that have been posted. So here goes… Now lets pretend you were a novelist and wrote the new ‘Harry Potter’ phenomenon. A publishing company came along and gave you $10,000 up front for your first novel and promised you a portion of profits for every published copy sold. Both you and the publishing company put this in writing. In other words, you make a contract. But now, suddenly, the Internet comes along and the publishing company realizes they no longer have to actually print hard copies of the books and sell them. They can do this all electronically over the Internet and people can now download the book for a fee. Well, guess what? You don’t get a cent. Your contract said you get a portion of profits from all PUBLISHED copies, not downloaded copies. The publishing company found a way to cut you out completely and keep all profits for themselves. When you complain, they tell you ‘Too Bad’! It wasn’t in your contract. So you try and make a new contract with them to include profits from Internet downloading (which is only fair) but they tell you to get lost. And that is exactly what is happening folks to the TV and Film writers. They don’t get a cent. Soon repeats will no longer be on television. They will all be on the Internet or some form of new media. TBS is doing this with “Just Shoot Me.” There was a commercial the other day advertising repeats on the Internet, not on broadcast. They make money on that, folks. The writers don’t. Now, please understand, being an industry writer is not like working for minimum wage at Wal-Mart. They are not buying your script from you for a set fee. They are essentially giving you a down payment with the understanding that you will receive residuals every time it airs. That is how it works. Only problem is they found a back door with the Internet and all new media and they thought they would get away with it. In other words, the big corporations found a way to screw the little guy out of what they rightfully had coming to them. What the writers are asking for is fair. They are the ones being screwed. And for all the misinformed here that are talking about scabs and whatnot, it’s disrespectful to the people that spend 15 hours a day, everyday, including weekends, to bring you the entertainment you so much enjoy. Oh, and for all you Wal-Mart folks (of course, I’m just using Wal-Mart as an example of an everyday job), what if your boss told you that you had to work an extra 8 hours a day and not get paid for it? You wouldn’t be too happy, would you? Well that happens to be another issue they are fighting for. I won’t even touch on the DVD issue. So the moral of the story is, don’t bitch about something when you don’t know what you’re talking about and you don’t have any of the facts. To the people on this talkback who are calling the writers greedy, that just comes from a place of pure ignorance. It’s like someone who’s never seen a Football game trying to talk about Football. I hope this enlightens you in some way. These people are just trying to fight for their ability to make a living. Just like you. Most o these are not rich people. And none of them are certainly greedy people. They just happen to be very creative and talented individuals standing up for what is right. And by the way, I AM NOT a member of the WGA. I am just a person who has taken the time to read the facts, which have been presented, and realize which side is right.
BSG ommited from this list? by palewook	Jan 4th, 2008 07:29:07 AM

Maybe we could play Scrabble, work on the garden, talke long wal by Uncle Stan	Jan 4th, 2008 07:31:54 AM
...or vist the goddamn local library.
Average J by Itchy	Jan 4th, 2008 07:37:49 AM
Really, who gives a fuck ? All I want is a full season of Lost, Heroes and BSG. I mean, bully for the writers and all ... but if this drags out too much longer don't be surprised if a lot of jobs are permanently lost because this idiot nation would just assume watch Deal or No Deal or "Ow ! My Balls !" than their carefully crafted pieces of sh... I mean art.
Noooooooooooooooooooo! by Yeti	Jan 4th, 2008 07:40:29 AM
Whatever will I do? Oh wait... Internet Porn to the rescue!!!!!
Meanwhile, 13 episodes of TORCHWOOD S2 begin Jan. 26 on BBCA by SpyGuy	Jan 4th, 2008 07:42:14 AM
The first episode features James "Spike" Marsters, so if Herc doesn't pimp it, I'm officially revoking the BUFFY: TVS cast poster most likely hanging on the ceiling above his bed.
Oh, and what about REAPER? by SpyGuy	Jan 4th, 2008 07:44:44 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but weren't there two more episodes left to be aired?
TV is now dead... by Kid Z	Jan 4th, 2008 07:45:22 AM
...And yes, I blame the corporate fks and not the writers. Just one more way the system screws the working man and woman. We're too masochistic and, yes, stupid in this country. Corporate power has so routinely and totally buttfked this county for decades and pretty much bled it dry and they keep getting away with worse and worse abuses. Corporations are legally citizens in the eyes of the law, in fact, they have MORE rights than you or I. I wish all the cornfed, morons iwould wake the f***k up... it's really about time we started putting some heads up on pikes!
well written Average J. by almostgrown	Jan 4th, 2008 07:47:34 AM
I've supported the writers stand from the start, even though it meant losing a season of my favorite shows. As for the DVD issue, writers make 4 cents per DVD sold, and they are asking for an additional 4 cents per DVD.....how does that equate to being greedy? It's the networks that don't want to give up the money who are greedy.
Fuck the writers!! by ATARI	Jan 4th, 2008 07:52:48 AM
You made your point, now get your asses back to work like the rest of us!
BSG Returns in April. by The Outlander	Jan 4th, 2008 08:28:53 AM
After all these shows have ended.
Average J.... by MonkeyManReturns	Jan 4th, 2008 08:44:08 AM
These guys are idiots - they don't understand simple issues as 'peoples rights' until it happens to them. And it will. We all get shafted in the end. Some of us will stand up and fight. Others like MandalorianSage and Itchy will bend over, lube their arses and tell the shafter to 'come on in boys - give it to me good.' Writers are damn important. Give them their due. You want to know why this strike is still going on you ignorant shits...its not the writers...its the bloody execs...if they put up a decent, fair deal, the strike would be over. But they dont. So the strike is still on. End of story. Don't blame the writers, blame the executives! And use your fucking heads you shits. 'What will I do for entertainment now? Oh boo hoo..." I know, how about read a book...oh shit, but thats created by writers!! And we sure hate them. You losers!
Terminator is great by erichaislar	Jan 4th, 2008 08:50:35 AM
Watch the pilot last night and was impressed big time.
SG: Atlantis by Gislef_crow	Jan 4th, 2008 08:59:33 AM
A little misleadiong because its season finale would have been March 7 no matter what. All the episodes were in the can before the strike. Same for other USA/SciFi stuff like Monk and Psych. The strike's more likely to delay the series premieres if/when they get renewed for their July "new seasons."
Who wants to marry a millionairre needs to return by jccalhoun	Jan 4th, 2008 09:09:45 AM
Come on Fox, you know you want to! Give us another Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire!
A little reality from Hollywood....re: writer's strike by griporama	Jan 4th, 2008 09:40:22 AM
... and I don't mean reality TV. As a BTL worker for the last 15 years, the last 6 as an IATSE member (last 4 in tv), who has 2 kids, wife, dog, cat, and roof to keep over our head... I've been on the unemployment line for over a month now. And I support the WGA. So those of youw ho have no idea about the details of the strike, and just whine about not getting their Lost or 24 fix.... wah. There's a LOT more on the line IRL than just your ability to waste some time in front of the zombie box.
8 episodes of Lost will beat full seasons of other shows by performingmonkey	Jan 4th, 2008 09:43:58 AM
As long as Lost returns I don't mind that we're only getting 8 episodes for now. That's because I know how great it's gonna be. If 24 (the show) was returning for 8 episodes that would be a different story entirely because aside from the first few episodes of excitement it takes them around 12 episodes to fucking get anywhere in a season. That's why the can't air the 8 in the can, every episode of 24 just relies on what they're promising will happen in the next.
When the strike is finally resolved by Jor-El23	Jan 4th, 2008 09:50:18 AM
and it will be because money talks, what happens to the story arcs of all these seasons? Do they just pick up where they left off? Or do they scrap all plans they had for the remainder of seasons canceled by the strike and start anew?
Average J. by rbrog77	Jan 4th, 2008 09:51:47 AM
Very well written post.
There was an episode... by rbrog77	Jan 4th, 2008 09:59:37 AM
...of the Simpsons, I think, where for some reason kids started turning off their TVs. Their weary eyes squinted and blinked as they opened their doors and the sunlight hit their faces. The next thing you know they were playing marbles, riding bikes, swinging in the playgrounds, playing in mud puddles, building kid-type things, reading books, etc. I'm preety sure that was before Wii, Playstation, XBox... Think we could get the systems and game creaters to strike too? ;->
Griporama... by Abin Sur	Jan 4th, 2008 10:05:51 AM
For us laymen, what do BTL and IATSE stand for? I'm not sure whether to be outraged or not.
RBROG77, I remember that ep! by SantiagoAtez	Jan 4th, 2008 10:10:34 AM
I was thinking about that the other day, too. It's too bad that the scripted shows that are being cut short this season aren't really what's keeping the kids inside. That would be great if we could get the TV writers back and get the game developers to head out...at least until the kids get used to that sun again.
Average J by theycallmemrglass	Jan 4th, 2008 10:15:03 AM
That was very informative and simply laid out. Thanks. What I want to know now is why is a deal is not yet made? Sure its easy for us to say the execs are greedy but what are they actually saying? I assume the writers are asking for X amount of money. What if X is more than justified. What if the writers are taking advantage and demanding more than what is reasonable? Then the execs would have a point not to make an agreement. There is that possibility but I want know both sides of the coin. I support the writers to get more but what exactly is going on?
Average J is missing the point. by oweny	Jan 4th, 2008 10:41:52 AM
Nice post, but you're missing one vital point about downloaded episodes: Very few people actually PAY to download anything. Seriously if writers think there are millions of people PAYING to download their written episodes on a daily basis, they are sadly misguided. Also, I dont agree with any kind of strike, ever. When you take on a job, you do so knowing the pay and conditions, you read the paperwork, you sign a contract knowing exactly what you're taking on. Accept it. If something comes up which you didn't think of, then tough shit, get the job finished, and be more aware next time. That is how life works.
Scrubs by Flying Spaghetti Monster	Jan 4th, 2008 10:47:19 AM
yah i agree...it's their last season and the WG fucked them over. I think I might go on strike for residuals on the CO2 I put out. By the way, don't hate! Vote FSM 2008!
Its not about money by The Winged Doucheman	Jan 4th, 2008 10:47:49 AM
The execs can afford it. Its an issue of pride. Neither side wants to give up their balls. Its artists and extroverts vs rich kids. Its like high school, only without the awkward handjobs after homecoming.
I support the writers, but the strike is doomed. by WickedJacob	Jan 4th, 2008 10:47:55 AM
I absolutely agree with what the writers are fighting for. But they are still idiots. TPTB can hold out longer than the writers can. If the writers were going to have shot at this, they should've realized ten years ago what the future of communications was going to be. Then they could've made their deal before the reality show / game show era began with Survivor and Millionaire. Because once networks realized that popular shows don't technically need writers, writers became a lot less important. Yes, the most intelligent and probably the most profitable shows are the written ones -- but the networks know what they can glide for two or three years on mediocre reality shit (especially now that shows like Conan and TDS have cracked under the pressure). The rich writers can glide for two or three years on the money they already have. But the poor writers (which this strike is supposedly about) can't go without working for that long. Thus the network execs have known from day one of the strike that they would win and that the writers will eventually come back to work, probably with little more than a token concession from the execs so that the writers egos can be soothed. In the end, the execs will be stronger because they know the embattled writers won't walk out again anytime soon. (It will also serve as a warning to the SAG.) These execs are not idiots. If they felt the writers could win, they would've settled quickly. Instead, They've obviously bunkered down for a long winter, knowing they can outlast anyone and that it is in their best economic interest over the long term to not show weakness to unions.
And another thing! by oweny	Jan 4th, 2008 10:48:41 AM
When you want to see an episode of your favourite show, do you: (a) pay to download it, (b) download it from a free filesharing source, (c) purchase the dvd, (d) just watch it on television? I suspect that option (a) is a very, very, very small minority of people, and therefore the WGA are barking up the wrong tree. DVD on the other hand is a more valid argument, but DVD's have been around over 15 years and only NOW do they decide its a problem? What's changed?
Oweny by The Winged Doucheman	Jan 4th, 2008 10:50:55 AM
The point is they were more aware this time. Their contract was up and it was time to renew. Negotiations were unsuccessful. This is why we have a strike. Downloads don't pay the studios, advertisers do. And they pay a shitload.
Average J by dogstar69	Jan 4th, 2008 10:53:00 AM
Thanks, at least now i understand what's going on,
Oweny by ICantBelieveIRegistered	Jan 4th, 2008 10:53:58 AM
We don't pay to watch TV either. The Advertisers essentially foot the bill. Same model as online episodes, the difference being that the execs can accurately track how many viewers they get to set the price for ads, versus having to rely on "Sweep" months. And good post, Average J. Not enough of those here.
Oweny, you forgot Option E by Big Jim	Jan 4th, 2008 10:59:53 AM
"Watch it for free on the Network's website" It's free for us; the network gets paid by advertisers, either an ad like the one that adorns the borders of this site, or a commercial that runs before the show. I remember watching an episode of Survivor on a Canadian site and it was broken up into 5 segments, and each segment began with the same car commercial. The revenue from that ad is what the writers want a piece of.
Average J. by bluebottle	Jan 4th, 2008 11:07:14 AM
You should have also pointed out that the original contract has expired, it's not like the writers are trying to null and void their existing contract. Also, as someone pointed out on these boards before, Herc probably makes more money off the DVD sales from the click-throughs on this site than the writers make.
LOL....Oweny just got Pwnzeny by Ultron ver 2.0	Jan 4th, 2008 11:14:45 AM
Always nice to see when some uneducated douchenozzle gets served.
TV is DEAD - im spending more time doing other stuff by Mr_X	Jan 4th, 2008 11:33:01 AM
hope this strike lasts for a while so a) we might get journyeman back and b) we all get tie to do that stuff you've never had time for. learn a new language, work out, get a new hobby, travel more, learn to pick up chicks. my god people theres loads of fricking things to do. Me? i'm downloading deadwood. now only if someone uploaded the highlander series id be well chuffed.
Abin Sur... by griporama	Jan 4th, 2008 11:37:10 AM
BTL = below the line.... camera, lighting, grips, makeup etcetc... Iatse = International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees
You mean, somebody actually thought the "free"... by Mister Man	Jan 4th, 2008 11:44:01 AM
downloads made no money???!!! Incredible. How the living hell can anybody in 2007 not know about advertisers?? They've been paying networks and affiliates since the beginning of TV broadcasting, and have obviously continued to do so, in a big way, on the Internet. People, PLEASE.
GO TEAM VENTURE! JP posts season 3 pix by BrandLoyalist	Jan 4th, 2008 11:44:13 AM
Don't OD when ER, NCIS, and all those CSIses go OTA! Venture Bros. is coming back, err, some day. 3 eps are in the can. http://news.toonzone.net/artic le.php?ID=20683 Included: a great group shot of characters old and new appearing in the first few eps. Article also points out: no Colbert as Prof. Impossible this season, gosh darn it.
2008 by Mister Man	Jan 4th, 2008 11:46:25 AM
My inevitable first mistake regarding the new year - at least I didn't ruin a check.
Venture Bros is great by The Winged Doucheman	Jan 4th, 2008 12:12:46 PM
But I'm now a Xavier guy all the way.
animated shows are this affected? by Bouncy X	Jan 4th, 2008 12:16:21 PM
considering how far in advance animated shows usually are made, i'm surprised to see family guy in that list. american dad and simpsons arent there so how come FG has to end their season so early and they dont? especially considering american dad is from the same people as FG? or is it because the last new episode aired for those two was the end for now?
Terminator not so good... by SantiagoAtez	Jan 4th, 2008 12:17:36 PM
I'd like it a lot more without the cheesy hot good-terminator. Yeah, she's nice to look at, but c'mon...it would have been better with an additional hot girlfriend instead, while keeping the terminator a bad-ass.
Hercules, don't sugar-coat it by Big Jim	Jan 4th, 2008 12:26:03 PM
Let's call it what it is. With few exceptions these aren't "Season Finales". They are the final episodes of the season. Maybe you think I'm splitting hairs but to me a Season Finale is the culmination of the entire season, the wrap up of what that season has been about. What we're getting here, for the most part, is the last script that was finished, or as finished as it was ever going to get, before the strike hit. A Finale should bring closure to the season while teasing us for the season to come; what we will get is an abrupt ending.
But when the strike... by BoggyCreekBeast	Jan 4th, 2008 12:28:09 PM
really starts to hurt the movie industry, those TV execs will know the REAL power in Hollywood. Stay the course, my fellow writers!
Whats the use of changing broadcast signals in 2009 by JeffManSixtyFo	Jan 4th, 2008 12:28:23 PM
When broadcast TV is dying.Don't no one care? It's all a plot.
So where have all those quarters been going by skimn	Jan 4th, 2008 12:32:33 PM
that I've been sticking in the back of my tv set...? Huh, you mean...I'M RICH BITCH! OK enough ragging on Oweny. It would be interesting to know what the couteroffers are to the writers, because the more this drags on, the more it will hurt the industry as a whole.
Why Not Continue Season Thru Summer? by Deandome	Jan 4th, 2008 12:32:40 PM
What's all this shit about finales in Jan.? IF the strike is settled in the next month or so...why not crank out 6-8 or so episodes of all these shows & run them thru June-July...maybe even August? The actors are getting their big vacations/breaks now, so they don't need the summer off. God knows EVERYONE would love the money, the suits, the writers, the staffs. And above all, this would stave off the very real chance that many people will simply give up scripted television when they discover that the 8 month break didn't ruin their lives...they found other things to do that they're perfectly happy continuing to do. There's always been talk of the networks going to an yearlong schedule....cables shows like Monk/Psych/Closer/etc. clean up with new shows in the summer. This is a perfectly workable idea....which, I guess, means it doesn't stand a chance with all these moronic assholes.
Jeffmanzixtyfo by Flying Spaghetti Monster	Jan 4th, 2008 12:37:30 PM
i thinks it's because they want to aution off the spectrum that old TVs used...Vote FSM 2008!!!
Reality TV will reign supreme... by Hugh G Rekshun	Jan 4th, 2008 12:37:47 PM
...from here on out. They don't need writers, just a bunch a dumbasses running around doing random shit like singing and dancing. The moronic viewing public eats that shit up. IT'S A BOLD NEW WORLD!
At what point do the shows have to let by Big Jim	Jan 4th, 2008 12:38:58 PM
the actors out of their contracts? I would think there is a clause somewhere that states an actor must either be paid or released after a certain amount of time of inactivity. But then again, it's not like their freedom from their TV obligations will allow them to work in film since that industry will be shutting down soon enough.
The actors/directors/producers by The Winged Doucheman	Jan 4th, 2008 12:39:08 PM
Don't get summers off. They are shooting in the summer to have shows ready for the fall. Even if shows were shot and ready for summer, no one would be around to watch. Nothing will be new until Fall...maybe.
Big Jim by The Winged Doucheman	Jan 4th, 2008 12:42:26 PM
See "Force Majeure" http://www.deadlinehollywoodda ily.com/gulp-force-majeure-let ters-in-the-mail/
I'm actually gonna have to get a life now by cromulent	Jan 4th, 2008 12:54:34 PM
Like step outside for once. The sun! It burns! Hisssssss! But seriously, this sucks.
A proposal for helping the Writer's Guild: ban "reality" by krushjudgement	Jan 4th, 2008 12:56:19 PM
With the whole strike going on I have a couple of ideas. Firstly, I think the writers are justified in wanting a piece of the internet action. It seems obvious to the point of debate or backup points seeming, well, pointless. Secondly, I really enjoy written television, especially versus "reality" based programming. The common network answer to this strike will be (and has already been) an increase in, so called, reality shows. This is not good. A world full of competitive crazies shoving their psychosis down our throats is, frankly, depressing as hell. If I want that I'll watch the news. So I propose a grassroots campaign of rebellion against the networks. My idea... EVERYONE NEEDS TO BAN REALITY SHOWS. That's right. Stop watching all reality shows now! It will send a clear message: We will not watch crap, unless it is well written crap. (If you like reality shows that's okay, they'll never go away. But for the time being just help us get the good stuff back.) In the meantime, instead of watching TV, there are lots of fun things to do: read a couple of books, get some DVD seasons you’ve been missing out on, practice playing an instrument, go outside, you know, the good stuff. I feel this is an issue of cultural importance. Writing is art. Art is important to civilization. (And if I don't get a Battlestar Galactica season 4 finale, it may border on justifiable homicide.) Let's pull together for art's sake. Love, Nicholas www.myspace.com/kingofpaincomi c
Deandome by AlwaysThere	Jan 4th, 2008 01:01:25 PM
You have to realize that most, scratch that, all of these tv shows had at max 8 to 12 episodes of their season done before the strike. Remember when TV shows premiere? Early September, anywhere in October, November at the latest. Take a look at a calendar based on those months and think about 8 to 13 episodes have to air each week over the course of those months. November sweeps is and was a big thing. If a network had a show with any episodes left they would run them up to Thanksgiving and hold everything off until now. That's why you have 1 episode left of this show, 3 or 4 of that show, a big fat ZERO for a different show, rinse and repeat. ---- Then consider that because only half of your 24, 18, 16, etc episodes had been written by those writers that went out on strike the first week of November, how exactly are any episodes past the half way point going to be filmed? There isn't very much to hold off on because they have nothing that was shot that can be edited. --- I think you're confused by the usage of the word "finale". It's a finale, because it's the final episode that the network has of the show. It could be termed a "midseason finale" or "story arc finale. It's a last ditched effort to get high ratings for most of their shows. Someone in the know on here would be able to tell us how those early shows: Women’s Murder Club to 30 Rock are advertising their last written, filmed, and edited episodes.
kidnap Cuse and Lindelof by zooch	Jan 4th, 2008 01:35:27 PM
lock them in a room until they write eight more episodes of Lost.
Mr. Rekshun, I hate to shatter your reality by Steve_Dooku	Jan 4th, 2008 01:47:29 PM
but "reality" TV does indeed have writers. I know, I know, it sounds crazy.
Reality writers by krushjudgement	Jan 4th, 2008 02:08:59 PM
I know reality shows have writers, but can't they get by without them and/or create new shows/situations to get around them?
If we must have reality... by pap	Jan 4th, 2008 02:22:10 PM
It's gotta be "Climbing For Dollars".
It's the suits' fault, they're just delaying the inevitable by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Jan 4th, 2008 02:33:46 PM
They actually think they can get away with not paying these guys for internet shit?
Now at last! The FOOD NETWORK will own your ass! by Uncle Stan	Jan 4th, 2008 03:03:21 PM
BAM!
Hey Jack Colby, you go to the movies? by Big Jim	Jan 4th, 2008 03:06:03 PM
because that's the next industry that will be affected by this strike. Hope you like romcoms and remakes.
Thanks for that Winged Doucheman by Big Jim	Jan 4th, 2008 03:09:19 PM
If I understand it correctly, the actors are in a holding pattern. They're basically on hiatus.
I am Alvin and the National Treasure of the Caribean by The Winged Doucheman	Jan 4th, 2008 03:16:50 PM
A hybrid film and guaranteed box office success. The studios can program it into their automatic script machine and shit this one out for a Christmas 08 release.
Caribbean by The Winged Doucheman	Jan 4th, 2008 03:18:22 PM

"...and shit this one out" by Big Jim	Jan 4th, 2008 03:21:01 PM
No kidding. Obviously it's easy to take a dump when you're so full of crap
You, meaning the studios by Big Jim	Jan 4th, 2008 03:22:17 PM
not you personally WD
problem with all the WGA communication on the strike... by SantiagoAtez	Jan 4th, 2008 04:02:40 PM
problem with all the WGA communication on the strike...is that they're always so unlikable in what they say. So full of hate and spite. No, I'm not being sarcastic: this vengeful and insultful way of explaining the strike turns off the casual viewer that is paying attention to more important things going on in the world. These writers think everyone knows what's going on...they don't understand that most of us just want to watch their show, we don't care about the details. And for the record, I support them over the studios, but I still get turned off by the "Sorken"esk "I'm so damn witty" attitude.
No worries by The Winged Doucheman	Jan 4th, 2008 04:03:16 PM
How about this one: Live Free or Transform Super Spider Shrek Rush Identity 3 starring Shia Lebouf. Summer 2009.
Personally, I'm going to spend all my freetime furiously masturb by Ultron ver 2.0	Jan 4th, 2008 04:14:46 PM
..once I finish BSG Season 3.0 on DVD...thank you Amazon.co.uk!!
Enough of the strike already... by MachThree	Jan 4th, 2008 05:50:12 PM
I don't see why they cannot reach an interim agreement by which existing terms for distribution on TV, Cable, VHS, DVD etc. are retained and distribution via other media is explicitly prohibitted until terms for distribution on those media are worked out at a later date. That way, everyone gets back to work (including production workers who are being laid off and have nothing to do with the strike, and who have already collecitvely lost a lot more money than the writers and producers are arguing over) not making as much money as they could with an Internet distribution deal, but making roughly the same amount of money that they were pre-strike, which is a lot better than the absolute zero they're making right now.
Worldwide Pants, Bad Robot by bluebottle	Jan 4th, 2008 06:24:16 PM
if Letterman's production company can reach an individual agreement with the writers, why can't other production companies do the same? I know that Tonight Show and Late Night can't because they're produced by NBC. But what about a show like Lost which is produced by Bad Robot but licensed by ABC? Can anyone answer?
Tom Cruise just signed a deal with WGA by The Winged Doucheman	Jan 5th, 2008 02:30:20 AM
UA is the first AMPTP company to break away. The house of cards begins to fall for the studios and Tom has priority on every script on the market.
United Artists by buffywrestling	Jan 5th, 2008 02:40:24 AM
take the same WGA deal that was presented to Nick "Union Buster" Counter and the AMPTP - the same one which they walked away from the negoiating table for because it was unreasonable and too costly. Suprising really but only becasue the buzz was about Lionsgate (Robert Altman). That's two in less than a week. Who's next???ˇ
Weinstein should step up by The Winged Doucheman	Jan 5th, 2008 02:56:15 AM
They need a hit like a crackhead does. Imagine Harvey having his pick of the litter. As much as I enjoyed grindhouse, its time for the WC to make a profitable film.
Strike by Dreadnok4life	Jan 5th, 2008 03:51:51 AM
I don't care about either side. They are all nimrods. This country and world has a lot more important things to worry about than when the next episode of Two and a half men is going to be on.
Scrubs by supertoyslast	Jan 5th, 2008 04:53:34 AM
So the Feb 14th episode will definitely be the final ever episode? It sure sucks for your final season to be cut short (just ask Arrested Development). How many episodes will Scrubs have had in total this season?
I SUPPORT XENU IN BATTLEFIELD EARTH 2 ON THIS ONE. by Pennsy	Jan 5th, 2008 09:06:21 PM
Tom frakkin' Cruise jamming a big sharp stick in the eye of Sumner Redstone and Viacom? Lord helps us. :p

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