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"Do you expect me to talk?" No, Mr. Bond. Mathieu Amalric expects you to die...

I thought they were filming this months ago? by Gwai Lo	Jan 3rd, 2008 02:44:34 AM
Still casting? I remember a still of Bond with binoculars at a horse race?
great news by atomride	Jan 3rd, 2008 02:44:58 AM
that was one of the best movies of the year, diving bell was.
Mathieu Amalric is a good actor, by the way by Gwai Lo	Jan 3rd, 2008 02:46:28 AM
The only other thing I remember him in is Munich, but he was excellent in the Diving Bell and the Butterfly. Has them beady little villain eyes.
That is a lot of baddies by spectrebeeyatch	Jan 3rd, 2008 02:47:51 AM
That makes like three but probably one will be killed in the intro and then two will be used through out the film. I think this film is going to be a good one. It seems like franchises are simply getting better, well three of them: Batman, Bond and I guess Indy even though the first three are classics (Maybe not Temple of Doom) but still seeing these three classic characters kicking ass again makes me excited in pants.
nice work on shutting out the Firsts, team by Gwai Lo	Jan 3rd, 2008 02:52:31 AM
good hustle.
Old news... by Motoko Kusanagi	Jan 3rd, 2008 02:53:46 AM
Read about it a few days ago. In a printed (!) magazine. Slow day guys, huh?
he's pretty damn well known outside the US by BadMrWonka	Jan 3rd, 2008 02:53:58 AM
considering he just won a Cesar for best actor a couple years ago or so. and imdb doesn't even have a picture of the motherfucker. sigh...
by Call me Kenneth	Jan 3rd, 2008 02:55:21 AM
He apparently plays Vesper Lynde's vengeful boyfriend. Which is nice.
Good News! by Kefrif	Jan 3rd, 2008 03:01:37 AM
Nice to see that there's gonna be character continuity through the series again. Now if only Spectre would come back as an Al Qaeda style foe - we'd be off and running!
I second the vote for SPECTRE by Horace Cox	Jan 3rd, 2008 03:22:28 AM
Make it so MGM and Columbia.
GIVE ME COOL NEWS by messi	Jan 3rd, 2008 03:27:29 AM
Why does all your news come from variety.
man iam glad they are doing something to revive the franchise by virtual_ninja	Jan 3rd, 2008 03:33:16 AM
because all the bond movies that Pierce Brosnan did, except for golden eye, were pieces of fuckin horse shit. Daniel Craig brought bond back to life and i think Mathieu Amalric gots what it takes to be a badass advesary. BTW i also liked Jeffrey Wright on casino royale.
a Goldfinger remake by kafka07	Jan 3rd, 2008 03:37:00 AM
that's what I thought you might be alluding to in the headline.
Felix Leiter was black, which is cool..??? by darrenspool	Jan 3rd, 2008 03:50:52 AM
Why is he cool just because he's black? That really doesn't make much sense. Quint, why go flip the race card over us all the time? I really don't care either way if Felix is black or white. I mean, please stop shoving racism down our throats like it matters. Felix has always been a part of the series. He dies in License to Kill. So what, they brought him back? SO WHAT? This isn't about some Michael Jackson transformation black-to-white. Felix has never had surgery, that I recall. The reason he's sometimes white and sometimes black is exactly the SAME reason Blofeld used to change his appearance: TO MAINTAIN HIS DEEP-COVER OPERATIVE! THAT'S WHY PEOPLE CHANGE COLOUR!
ANCIENT COOL NEWS by Frye777	Jan 3rd, 2008 03:53:36 AM
this news is 2 weeks old. kinda embarassing..
Darrenspool by Colonel Activity	Jan 3rd, 2008 03:57:49 AM
You are an idiot. It's cool that Wright is back because he's good in everything that he's in: Syriana, Manchurian Candidate, etc. The reason why he's sometimes white and sometimes black is because there are different franchises, so there are different versions of the character, you boob.
RE: Munich by Colonel Activity	Jan 3rd, 2008 04:01:38 AM
Yeah, he really pulled off that privledged Europeon black-market spy stuff off in Munich. Apparently he has some chops, from what my friends tell me. Good choice.
Fer sure! by ubervarg	Jan 3rd, 2008 04:01:43 AM
Craig is definitely the cbest bond to date. I was always a Roger Moore - Bond fan, the only thing I didn't like was that the fight scenes were painful to watch (as in they sucked). Great actor he may be, Moore cannot fight...for fake at least. The choreography in Casino Royal on the other hand...squirt...so awesome! I especially loved the opening chase & the use of Parkour. Let's hope the franchise keeps going along this road. :)
Darrenspool by ubervarg	Jan 3rd, 2008 04:07:53 AM
Confirmed...you are an idiot! Felix did not die in License to Kill, his wife Della died, he was gnawed upon by a fucking shark but he lived. Check your facts before you post...Dumbass!
Leiter didn't die in License to Kill? by Falling_Gruber	Jan 3rd, 2008 04:08:08 AM
He disagreed with something that ate him and got munched a bit, surely?
Good Point by DannyOcean01	Jan 3rd, 2008 04:08:19 AM
Why does AICN feel it needs to be wait until something as archaic has reported news? I'm sure I'd heard rumours of this months ago on sites like Joblo and CHUD and then it was confirmed before Christmas????
SPECTRE and Leiter by Dude_gimme_tabs	Jan 3rd, 2008 04:11:53 AM
They can't use SPECTRE as the rights to that and the Blofield character are owned by the estate of the guy who invented them for the book of Thunderball, Kevin McClory. (which led to Never Say Never Again.... read about it kids !). Leiter didn't die in LTK, he just lost an arm and a leg to Sanchez's shark. In the books he lost an arm and a leg to a shark after he was keel-hauled by Mr Big in Live and Let Die. He has false limbs for the rest of the books. In the novelisation of LTK he just has the false limbs ripped of by Sanchez's shark, a sick message from Sanchez who knows what happened way back when in the events of Live and Let Die. The whole shoot out in the aquarium in LTK is taken from the book of LALD, the chapter called "A Night Among The Fishes." Here endeth todays Bond lesson.
as archaic as 'Variety' by DannyOcean01	Jan 3rd, 2008 04:14:12 AM
Why the hell did that not get inserted in my comment above?
Nice One by spyro	Jan 3rd, 2008 04:17:43 AM
This was reported over a month ago by Empire magazine; htt p://www.empireonline.com/News/ story.asp?nid=21607
Falling_Gruber by kwisatzhaderach	Jan 3rd, 2008 04:23:14 AM
Guess you missed the end of the film, Leiter survived.
kwisatzhaderach by Falling_Gruber	Jan 3rd, 2008 04:29:32 AM
I know, that was my point! Ubervarg got there before me :-o
They only did 2nd unit in August by moviemaniac-7	Jan 3rd, 2008 04:32:40 AM
One of the action scenes revolves around the horse race in Sienna, Italy and that was in August. Since it would be too close to their deadline to film it this year (2008) they already filmed a bit then. Anyhow, this news sounds cool, but I want to know who the Bond girl will be.
Nice... by EvilGeek1	Jan 3rd, 2008 04:48:41 AM
That's really cool. I loved Amalric in Munich. He kept reminding me of Roman Polanski for some reason. He has that bad guy face, doesn't he? That's good news for me. I would've liked Le Chiffre to stay on a bit longer, but what can you do? I loved Casino Royale so I can only hope this gets bigger and better.
Leiter may have survived License to Kill by the ageless stranger	Jan 3rd, 2008 04:50:11 AM
But he was a few pounds Leiter.
Older than Christ's first pube... by shaneo632	Jan 3rd, 2008 04:54:57 AM
Not on the ball, guys.
Am I the only one who remembers the promise of more Sly Q&A? by jack-torrance	Jan 3rd, 2008 05:18:46 AM
At the end of the 20 days of Q&A with Sly for Rocky Balboa, we were told he would do it all over again for RAMBO. Well, RAMBO is released Jan 25. So the 20 days of Q&A would have to start on the 5th or 6th! So where's the word on it? There's been no invitation to send in questions.
Jeffrey Wright NOT the first African American Felix Leiter. by Greigy Just Wanted To Say	Jan 3rd, 2008 05:20:14 AM
Have you forgotten Never Say Never Again
GOLDFINGER in CASINO ROYALE? by Sovikos	Jan 3rd, 2008 05:22:02 AM
Didn't anyone thing that the Land Rover (that James parked & rammed into the parking lot fence & set off all the car alarms) owner was Goldfinger? Just making a cameo in the film? It would have been awesome if it was him.
Anyone remember the James Bond RPG? by tonagan	Jan 3rd, 2008 05:29:50 AM
They had to use TAROT instead of SPECTRE due to copyright purposes, I believe. I also remember dying every time I was in a ski chase.
I loved the opening 1hr 45 by emeraldboy	Jan 3rd, 2008 05:37:38 AM
and hated the rest of movie.
Crap! by magnius	Jan 3rd, 2008 05:41:26 AM
Casino Royale Sucked!! Daniel Craig Sucked!! The next film will suck!! Am I the only one who actually fell asleep both times I tried to watch that tedious piece of shit?
Quint did not say he is cool because he is black! by travis-dane	Jan 3rd, 2008 05:44:23 AM
He did not even mention his skincolor!And Jeffrey Wright is a good actor,liked him in SHAFT as PEOPLES.
Quint is black? by tonagan	Jan 3rd, 2008 05:46:13 AM
I thought he was Native American.
Dicks by darrenspool	Jan 3rd, 2008 06:14:12 AM
It doesn't matter whether Leiter dies in License to Kill. My point was, it's a prequel-slash-reboot and IF you've read any of the BOOKS, you'll know that Felix has always been WHITE! Making him black makes little difference and I'm not sure why his race gains special mention all the time. Felix will always be white when I read the books. Quint says COOL because of his heritage - fine! Black people support their brothers. But honestly, Felix's ability to change colour is just as much a continuity error as it is a plausible espionage CIA trick. Whatever you have against white Felix, eat shit and die.
Felix the Cat is Black AND While by tonagan	Jan 3rd, 2008 06:23:10 AM
So everybody's happy. Plus, he's a wonderful, wonderful cat.
TallBoy66 by just pillow talk	Jan 3rd, 2008 06:33:16 AM
Patience dude...he had just earned his stripes, and he's not suddenly going to turn 'suave' overnight. He's still a "blunt instrument". magnius, why did the movie not work for you, and how do you know the next one will "suck"?
darrenspool - what the hell are you talking about? by just pillow talk	Jan 3rd, 2008 06:34:50 AM
Are you saying the word cool is only associated with black people? How so?
Dude...you're not even 1/8th Black... by Bill Brasky	Jan 3rd, 2008 06:37:52 AM
Thee best line in the Harold and Kumar teaser...
...Mathieu Amalric...please cut a hole under Bond's Chair!!! by Bill Brasky	Jan 3rd, 2008 06:38:39 AM
Smash his balls!
Ah, yes, the Diving Bell and Butterfly by Abominable Snowcone	Jan 3rd, 2008 06:40:13 AM
That nails it down for me.
Missed Opportunity by TheBloop	Jan 3rd, 2008 06:41:43 AM
They could have cast someone young and hungry, like Jason Biggs, or a former mega-start burning his way back into our hearts, like Christian Slayter, but noooooooooo. PS> I am not black, but I did have grandparents off the boat from Hungary. Is that cool?
moviemaniac-7 by Bill Brasky	Jan 3rd, 2008 06:42:12 AM
The wifey and I were at the race in Sienna this past year...we didn't see any film crews there. Well..we were pretty drunk ourselves and there could have been...no wait...there was! Not really though, just very crowded and really a great time. I suggest it to all of those reading this now.
RE:pillow by darrenspool	Jan 3rd, 2008 06:42:38 AM
Why is 'cool' race-oriented? I never implied that.
darrenstool:It is obvious that you cannot READ! by travis-dane	Jan 3rd, 2008 06:46:39 AM
Let somebody who can READ,read the article above to you(BUT SLOWLY SINCE YOU ARE STUPID)and then,please come again!
darrenspool by just pillow talk	Jan 3rd, 2008 06:50:21 AM
"Quint says COOL because of his heritage - fine! Black people support their brothers." So are you saying that if they cast someone white, Quint would NOT have used the word cool??
James Bond and the Kingdom of the Numbskulls by darrenspool	Jan 3rd, 2008 06:54:11 AM
Re: Quint is black, btw, unless I'm mistaken.
Blinky McDeath (Video podcast response)! by The Tao of Joe	Jan 3rd, 2008 07:00:29 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4Mv 9H16IG2U
I vote for Ed Harris as the new Blofeld by Spandau Belly	Jan 3rd, 2008 07:00:30 AM
He was one scary bastard in HISTORY OF VIOLENCE.
Ah American based racial tensions.... by Yeti	Jan 3rd, 2008 07:01:20 AM
why can't you all just get along?
Fuck me ! by Dude_gimme_tabs	Jan 3rd, 2008 07:09:22 AM
This ruined a "Great Debaters" talkback yesterday, don't let it ruin a Bond talkback today. Back to discussing Bond !!! - No SPECTRE due to legal stuff, Leiter didn't die in LTK, was just mangled, and even if he did it wouldn't matter as CR was a reboot. If you can't accept those things then maybe you be in the wroooong talkback !
Me? by ATARI	Jan 3rd, 2008 07:11:05 AM
Yes, I am definitely looking forward to the next bond (I haven't said that in decades).
Cause I'm... by Bill Brasky	Jan 3rd, 2008 07:15:51 AM
Black Ya'll, I'm Black Ya'll, I'm Blickety-Black, Yeah, I'm Black Ya'll!!!
Spandau Belly, Harris would be good but by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 3rd, 2008 07:19:57 AM
I would want him to try some accent other than his regular American voice. He was damn nasty in National Treasure 2 also, but I liked that movie the first time they made it when it was called The Goonies.
Bill Brasky, I forget where that's from was it by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 3rd, 2008 07:20:26 AM
CB4?
You heard it here first. by Nice Marmot	Jan 3rd, 2008 07:34:00 AM
Amy Winehouse will be doing the opening song. PERFECT CHOICE for an old-school sounding Bond song.
As dumb and drunk as she it, that aside by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 3rd, 2008 07:40:22 AM
her voice is perfect for old-school bond music I must agree.
no she won't by Lost Jarv	Jan 3rd, 2008 07:40:23 AM
she'll be dead from an OD by then. The woman has serious problems. I suspect shirly bassey is more likely to be reanimated than that.
It's a pity as she would be perfect. by Lost Jarv	Jan 3rd, 2008 07:40:54 AM

Yeah, I was thinking Bassey when by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 3rd, 2008 07:46:43 AM
you mentioned Winehouse. Bassey did Goldfinger on the Muppet Show. It was cool.
Craig not suave...? by Osmosis Jones	Jan 3rd, 2008 07:49:22 AM
What about when he was schmoozing Caterina Murino for information, or trading witty barbs with Eva Green? Craig has suave dripping out of every pore.
they can bring back SPECTRE and Blofeld by Spandau Belly	Jan 3rd, 2008 08:00:50 AM
I know there are legal issues, but legal issues just means money issues. That guy who claims to have thought up Blofeld and SPECTRE has price. And if not, just make something really similiar to SPECTRE and Blofeld, make it GHOST led by Schlofeld or something. And get Ed Harris.
Ain't It Cool News That's Been On CommanderBond.Net for weeks by SpyGuy	Jan 3rd, 2008 08:03:42 AM
I realize the Writers' Strike has caused actual news to slow to a crawl, but come on...
Head In A Box by Nice Marmot	Jan 3rd, 2008 08:13:25 AM
AMEN to that.
Quint is black? by rev_skarekroe	Jan 3rd, 2008 08:16:47 AM
Is that what darrenspool is saying? I think the guy's off his meds.
Head In A Box, yes and no by Spandau Belly	Jan 3rd, 2008 08:28:37 AM
I have no problem with known actors playing the babes and villains. Diana Rigg was well known and did a great job. Donald Pleasance was the best Blofeld, and a well known actor. I also thought that Greek chick in Casino Royale was a terrible actress, but she was unknown. I also thought Halle Berry had way more charisma than half the other Bond women, even if you didn't like Die Another Day, she was good in it. I guess I'd just prefer talented actors, whether they're known or not doesn't matter to me. Just as long they keep Angelina Jolie away from this series. I hate her and they keep considering her.
Denise Richards by Lost Jarv	Jan 3rd, 2008 08:32:13 AM
Doctor Christmas Jones. The most stupid nuclear physicist in history. I'd forgotten about that- or I'd blanked the whole awful movie out of my mind.
all could have been saved with Dr. Christmas Jones by just pillow talk	Jan 3rd, 2008 08:34:55 AM
if she made out with Sophie Marceau.
and no- Halle Berry was fucking awful by Lost Jarv	Jan 3rd, 2008 08:36:07 AM
in that piece of shit, but then everything about it was woeful. Interestingly, I can't remember, but wasn't the main villain a relative unknown? I think the difference is down to gimmickry- Halle Berry was stunt casting, and to make matters worse they tried to reference Ursula Andress in the Bikini. Denise Richards was not stunt casting, just bad casting, ditto- Michelle Yeoh. But these films were all gimmick, no substance. If you strip the bond series to its core and return to the books then there is little in the way of gadgets etc- and therefore they should cast unknowns in the Babe roles to keep away any accusation of Stunt casting. Angelina Jolie would be the ultimate example of stunt casting, so should never, ever, ever, be considered.
"just pillow talk" by magnius	Jan 3rd, 2008 08:39:39 AM
The reasons I hated Casino Royale: 1. Daniel Craig was a terrible choice of Bond. He irritated me more than Timothy Dolton! 2. Judi Dench as 'M'...if this was a prequel why did she come back as 'M'? Bond was in MI6 for years before she got the job in Goldeneye...It's a huge continuity gaff!! 3. Poker!! I enjoy Poker...but I do not want the bulk of a Bond movie dedicated to a tedious to watch card game!! I enjoy Snooker too...but who the hell would want a whole hour of it in the next bond film? The reason the newt film will suck? Everyone seemed to love Casino Royale...so the new one will follow the same terrible formula because the producers think we all want more of the same!!
Daniel Craig's face is pants by Garbageman33	Jan 3rd, 2008 08:39:49 AM
Someone had to say it.
Lost Jarv, do you like most of the Bond films? by Spandau Belly	Jan 3rd, 2008 08:44:40 AM
I'm just asking because you (like a lot of people) keep talking about getting rid of the sillyness of 'stunt casting' and 'gimmicks' and gadgets and jokes and things that have pretty much defined the series with the exception of maybe 2 or 3 out of 21 films.
The assholes are slipping... by JAGUART	Jan 3rd, 2008 08:51:24 AM
All these posts and not one mention of the OMG! TEH JAYSIN BORNUNE!
Magnius.. what a crock o shite yer talking matey by bongo123	Jan 3rd, 2008 08:56:29 AM
Daniel Craig, best fucking bond ever, about time we got rid of pretty boy nancy cunts and got someone who can play a hard faced fucker who would eat your balls for breakfast.. Judi Dench.. feck all wrong there, its a fucking reboot, forget about everything thats went before.. is it really that hard to let go? Poker was in it for about a couple minutes max, big deal. You and the other peeps that didn't like it.. all fucking 4 of ye are fully allowed to express an opinion even if its a load o shoite, casino royale was a fecking masterpiece of a bond movie, its the Batman Begins of spy reboots and i for one, along with the rest of the world cant wait to see the blonde haired punching machine kick some more arse.. maybe you just preferred the invisible fucking cars and stupid ass lazer watches... who knows...
by Dude_gimme_tabs	Jan 3rd, 2008 08:57:01 AM
Which is like comparing apples to oranges.
When does Jason Bourne make an appearance? by JDanielP	Jan 3rd, 2008 08:58:24 AM
That would be REALLY cool news.
Bourne was supposed to do a cameo... by Dude_gimme_tabs	Jan 3rd, 2008 09:02:30 AM
...but he forgot.
Julia Stiles as 'M' by Spandau Belly	Jan 3rd, 2008 09:04:31 AM
Will be Bourne's contribution.
magnius... by just pillow talk	Jan 3rd, 2008 09:04:32 AM
Sorry you feel that way, but I agree with bongo. Bond should not have been a pretty boy, and should in fact appear to be someone who can take repeated whacks to his balls. Judi Dench is not a continuity gaffe, though I would have preferred someone different in the role. However, I thought she was much better than in previous movies, and was more of a no-nonsense-take-no-shit type in this one. And while the card game was in the movie, I don't think it was an hour. And I'll take the brutal fighting in the stairwell over an invisible car/Bond in space any day.
Bond would eat Bourne for Breakfast by bongo123	Jan 3rd, 2008 09:09:20 AM
i'm sorry but its true, we all know you yanks cant fight worth a fuck
Spandau by Lost Jarv	Jan 3rd, 2008 09:13:34 AM
Yes- I do like most of the bond films, I was just trying to say why this mentality doesn't fit with a rebooted and back to basics Bond. Exceptions that I don't like include the Brosnan movies bar Goldeneye, and it was those I was thinking of when I wrote that.
You guys are all mental by Spandau Belly	Jan 3rd, 2008 09:14:03 AM
You guys keep saying this is "the best Bond film ever", but it is nothing like most of the series. Did you guys actually put yourself through watch 20 corny goofball movies every time hoping they'd finally change it up and make a more serious one? If so, you're gluttons for punishment. No wonder you guys liked that torture scene so much, you can relate. You've basically done to yourselves what Le Chiffre did to Bond in that scene by watching Moonraker and Thunderball against your better judgement. So who knows, maybe I'll keep watching FRIDAY THE 13th movies and when they eventually make one where Jason is a nice guy, who likes campers, and wears a beret and is short and skinny then I can say that they finally got it right and all my years of watching films that I clearly don't enjoy have finally payed off and they've made something "true to the real Jason". I actually enjoyed Casino Royale, as an espionage thriller, but not as a Bond film. That's like saying The Big Lebowski is your favorite film in the Spiderman series.
007 should've been in 2007 by Parallax	Jan 3rd, 2008 09:20:40 AM
Just sayin'... woulda been so freakin' perfect.
Lost Jarv, you're right, it is a different series now by Spandau Belly	Jan 3rd, 2008 09:21:12 AM
I did find Casino Royale had a couple of wonky things in it left over from the old cornball era and they stuck out like sore thumbs. So you're right, in this new Craig era of Bond they should go for 100% for making serious movies and not spread themselves thin by trying to appeal to both audiences. The wierd thing is I'm in both audiences, I love the old Bonds (and even the Brosnan ones), but I also enjoyed Casino Royale for what it was.
Spandau, there is middle ground by Lost Jarv	Jan 3rd, 2008 09:21:35 AM
It doesn't have to be completely back to basics OR invisible car/ ice palace/ halle berry filled rubbish. It can evolve and hopefully find some middle ground between the extremes. or maybe I just hated the later Brosnan films so much that the basic Casino Royale felt like a relief- sort of like Batman Begins after Batman and Robin- which is the nearest comparison that I can think of.
Spandau... by just pillow talk	Jan 3rd, 2008 09:31:25 AM
We may be mental, but not in that way. I too enjoyed the earlier Bonds, hell, loved them as a kid when they would have those Bond marathons on. But Jarv is right, the Brosnan ones were just downright atrocious. Casino Royale was a breath of fresh air for most I think. I'm sure they will develop the current Bond to be more suave and a little more with the gadgets, just not yet. I was fully expecting Supes to show up at that Ice Castle.
Hope they keep it as contained as CR, not saving-the-world crap by performingmonkey	Jan 3rd, 2008 09:34:45 AM
The best thing about Casino Royale was the scaling down of the story. It allowed it to be more intense, more about the characters than the gags, gadgets, cheesy fights. And they managed to do it while still keeping the huge action sequences, except this time they weren't overblown bullshit like the Millennium Dome opening to The World Is Not Enough or the invisible car from Die Another Day. I hope that shit never returns to the series.
The invisible car pretty much summed up the by bongo123	Jan 3rd, 2008 09:35:12 AM
bonds before the reboot, i mean.. what the feck where they thinking, early bonds i loved simply because i was kid watching em, but the Brosnan bonds just kept getting more and more ridiculous and the franchise really needed to take a reality check, personally i hope they retain Craig for as long as possible, he has the perfect combination of everything bond should be, he looks like he could kill you and get the girl, thats all bond needs.
What's with the old news people?! by PezQ	Jan 3rd, 2008 09:52:09 AM
This site has been going to hell for some time now..for example this Bond news was posted on IGN.com month ago! i mean if a site, best known for videogame related stuff beats AICN then something is wrong. Really really wrong! ...althou' i did enjoy that Fincher interview
Besides Die Another Day, what was so terrible by I Dunno	Jan 3rd, 2008 09:54:16 AM
about the Brosnan Bonds? Besides Denise Richards? No, Brosnan isn't a muscle bound tough guy but he had the smooth-ness down pat, which Craig has yet to show. The movies had decent action and weren't nearly as cheesy as the Moore Bonds.
Walken Retuns as Max Zorin... by uss cygnus	Jan 3rd, 2008 10:03:43 AM
Is Grace Jones still alive?
I Dunno, I'll tell you what was "wrong" with the Brosnan Bonds by Spandau Belly	Jan 3rd, 2008 10:04:26 AM
They had the misfortune of coming right before the Daniel Craig Bonds. That's it! People started hating the Brosnan Bonds after Casino Royale came out because his movies were the furtherest back they could remember and nobody wanted to challenge Connery because he has icon status. The Connery Bonds had all the same cheesy stuff as Brosnan's. Puns. Dirthy talking. Terrible acting. Outlandish plots. Absurd stunts. Connery's had jetpacks, rocket yachts, switchblade boots, dart-shooting cigarettes etc., ... but somehow it's Brosnan's invisible car that pushed things too far???
TND by Dude_gimme_tabs	Jan 3rd, 2008 10:05:36 AM
Brosnan nailed what I shall refer to as the "Cinematic Bond" in TND and until the series went back to basics he was fantastic. The first half of DAD also kicked ass, it just got silly when it went to Iceland. This revisionist Brosnan hating is just fanboy wank. And "crap" Bond is still better than 90% of the other shit churned out in the cinema.
Listen you stupid fucks by darrenspool	Jan 3rd, 2008 10:14:12 AM
Leiter dies in the novel, Live and Let Die. And since License to Kill (the film) was derived from some of the remaining ideas of the Live and Let Die novel, it can be assumed that Leiter dies in License to Kill. Anyways, on another note, using Judi Dench as M in CR was dumb, you stupid fucks. Obviously, such casting CONNECTS the two series, don't it? Same studio, same actress, same role. MIND-FUCK!!! A clean slate is a clean slate only when they acknowledge "Oh Judi Dench's M is not related to the other Judi Dench's M in the Bronson flicks." Next, they'll bring in John Cleese and say he's not related to the Die Another Day 'Q'. You can't just erase 40 years of Bond history. This ain't Batman and Robin they're overwriting/rectonning. It's fucking GOLDENEYE and THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH! Judi Dench is very prominent in these two Bond films. There was absolutely no need to reboot, quite honestly. NO NEED! Otherwise create a new spy to tackle 21st Century terrorists.
some of you people are weird by Russman	Jan 3rd, 2008 10:17:06 AM
Casino Royale was a lot of fun
Quint's a white dude... by Stone Cold Killa	Jan 3rd, 2008 10:18:34 AM
He's the fat dude standing up on the bus that gets wrecked in King Kong. He's the fat sweaty goatee guy in The Mist. White dude, both times.
darren and spandau by Lost Jarv	Jan 3rd, 2008 10:24:44 AM
Darren: Leiter doesn't die in Live and Let Die. He appears in a lot of the later books. And Spandau, I hated the Brosnan films at the time- especially The World is not enough, which I absolutely loathed. I'll give you one big problem with the Brosnan Bonds that people haven't mentioned- the evil plans. Again ignore Goldeneye on this, and (surprisingly) Die another Day, but the plans concieved by the Arch villains had such mundane goals- Carver just wanted to sell papers in china, Elektra wanted control of a pipeline- Where's your sense of scale? If you are going to have films as OTT as they were, make the villain Blofeld, don't do it for some low-scale reason like that.
Makes me want to watch Munich again by supermarch	Jan 3rd, 2008 10:25:48 AM
so I will.
My beef with "Casino Royale" by JDanielP	Jan 3rd, 2008 10:35:00 AM
I enjoy a good James Bond flick as much as anyone. And I know that the '06 "Casino Royale" gets a lot of love, along with Daniel Craig's performance. But despite all the hype and love for the film, it was one of the few Bond flicks that I actually missed out on, not seeing at the theatre. (Life gets in the way, sometimes.) So I purchased the dvd. But right at the beginning, despite it being a "Bond" flick, I felt it had a ridiculous opening (even though Craig's character was not officially "007" at the time). The end of that scene, showing the character's forethought, was very cool. However, the decision to pursue a man (on foot) to great and dangerous heights (at the very beginning), rather than to "wait" for him to come back down... well, you think about that. And sure, there's no need to watch James Bond just leaning on a steel beam, waiting for some dude to climb down. My argument is that there should've been more thought to this scene, retaining both the action required for a Bond opener...and the common sense the character requires, even before his transformation into 007 status.
They can't try to take over the world in every movie, Lost Jarv by I Dunno	Jan 3rd, 2008 10:36:04 AM
Besides, Carver was starting WWIII. That's pretty big. The fact that his only purpose was to get broadcast rights in China just made him more insane. I liked the Bill Gates/Rupert Murdoch parallels. And Sophie Marceau was planning on blowing up a whole country. Anyway, in GoldenEye, 006 just wanted to rob a bank.
Quint is the Cloverfield monster by turketron	Jan 3rd, 2008 10:36:48 AM
You newfags don't know this? Oh yeah, and Casino Royale was good, I loved the totally over the top chase scene in the beginning... hope theres a lot more of that action in the next one.
A step forward by The StarWolf	Jan 3rd, 2008 10:42:29 AM
Good news, yes. Opinions vary, but they tend to, it's in their nature. I detested the Moore Bonds - even though I loved him as The Saint. Craig is the next best thing to the Connery one. Brosnan wasn't bad, except he was too handsome. Secret agents aren't supposed to stand out that much. If they can avoid the "What the **#&$^?!" moments of CASINO - which was still a LOT better than the satirical original - (such as how the heck did the Embassy know it was an MI5 agent who did the damage, did Bond drop an official British MI5 secret agent card on the scene?) they could have a real winner on their hands.
yes, but if the films are as OTT as those ones were by Lost Jarv	Jan 3rd, 2008 10:51:12 AM
then the goal of the villain had better be pretty fucking loopy. And wasn't the point in Goldeneye to plunge the UK to the dark ages through twatting all Data in a gleefully insane revenge plan.
Lost Jarv, I'm with I Dunno by Spandau Belly	Jan 3rd, 2008 10:51:38 AM
Most Bond villains are actually causing huge destruction for simple personal gain. Goldfinger just wanted to increase the value of his gold. In On Her Majesty's Blofeld just wanted to be knighted. In Live and Let Die, Living Daylights, and License to Kill Bond was just taking out drug lords. In For Your Eyes Only Bond just wanted to keep a powerful weapon from falling into Soviet hands, even though the series depicts KGB boss Gogol as a pretty reasonable guy with no desire to destroy the world. But I guess I do agree with you that World Is Not Enuff is Brosnan's worst outing. But upon recent rewatching I found it had actually grown a bit on me. I still consider it to have the most brutal torture sequence. That medievel neck snapper really spooked me and Brosnan did a good job showing the pain it was causing him. I also really liked the dynamic between Electra and Bond while she tortured him.
SPECTRE's not gonna happen by polyh3dron	Jan 3rd, 2008 10:52:30 AM
Kevin McClory has seen to it. This new Bond outing is not based on any of the books and all signs point to the future ones being original works as well.
Sophie Marceau made me blow up in my pants by just pillow talk	Jan 3rd, 2008 10:53:09 AM

I love it ! by Dude_gimme_tabs	Jan 3rd, 2008 10:56:37 AM
I love it that some guy called us all stupid fucks then went on to try and tell us Leiter died in the LALD book and the LTK film. Classic !!! Buddy, I have forgotten more about Bond than you will ever know.
fair enough by Lost Jarv	Jan 3rd, 2008 11:03:00 AM
then we'll agree in a very proper and gentlemanly way. Unless you're that cunt Memories-of-murder in disguise. In which case you must be wrong as a matter of course.
"Agree to differ" by Lost Jarv	Jan 3rd, 2008 11:03:32 AM
fucksticks. Clearly I'm stupid
IAmJack'sUserID by JDanielP	Jan 3rd, 2008 11:07:25 AM
Yeah, that end sequence (of the opener) is great, showing the character's forethought. But where was Bond's forethought at the very beginning? Was it NOT obvious that the man he was pursuing was only going up...and would, eventually, come down? In the real world, Bond would have cracked a smile, seeing that the man wasn't going anywhere. That's my only beef with the flick. And I think Daniel Craig makes an excellent Connery-inspired James Bond. I dig this new Bond, as I do the Jason Bourne flicks.
Great. Not who the director wanted. by riskebiz	Jan 3rd, 2008 11:19:55 AM
He has said publicily that he wanted Bruno Ganz.
Uh, darrenspool by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 3rd, 2008 11:23:02 AM
We're talking about the James Bond movies, not the novels. Most of us have never even read any of the Bond novels. Felix ain't dead yet, and didn't die in License to Kill. What's the running tally on Felix actors anyway? Jack Lord played him in Dr. No. That dude from The Fly played him in Live and Let Die, and in License to Kill. Felix got a suntan for Casino Royale, or since this was the first Bond mission I guess we can say he was bleached in the subsequent movies. As long as Felix is cool, who cares about his skin color. I mean Bond changes every few movies so who cares? What other Bond movies was Felix in. Those are the ones I recall, but I never kept count.
Grammaton Cleric Binks by just pillow talk	Jan 3rd, 2008 11:27:06 AM
By the way, finally saw Equilibrium. Bale kicked so much ass in that movie, and I loved Taye "losing face"...he-he-he....
JDanielP, there were to many places for him to go by I Dunno	Jan 3rd, 2008 11:27:52 AM
Sure he had to come down but once he's up and out of sight, he could go anywhere. The guy was hopping around like the Hulk on crack, there's no reason to think he'd come down the same place as he came up. Besides, it's pretty clear that Bond is a moron at this point in the film.
Craig is Second best behind Connery by toadkillerdog	Jan 3rd, 2008 11:34:17 AM
And There is no shame in that. Craig was fantastic as a re-imagined, yet still authentic Bond. Yes, we can nit-pick about some parts of the movie - you can do that to just about any movie. But at the end of the day, did it deliver? CR delivered. The foot chase scene was magnificent. This is Bond, he does not sit back and wait. He does not back down from a challenge. He is Type A. And every poster on here that says he should have just 'thought about itr and waited' Well it is pretty damn obvious none of you are type A! Connery was the master mold. He set the absolute standard. He had Charm, wit and true menace. No one else came close - but Craig, while not possesing the charm just yet, is still the closest approximation. Brosnan was not bad. He had the wit and charm, just was too skinny to provide true menace. Moore hade wit, but he lost his charm, and never had menace. Dalton: menace no charm or wit. he might have grown into it though. And let's not forget Lazenby. he was unfortunate top follow right behind the greatest Bond of them all, but he held his own. The public just would not support him. Casino Royale rocked. And who the hell cares if Felix Leiter is white or black? Wright nailed that perfomance in a very small role.
I guess Dick Chaney wasn't available. by C.K. Lamoo	Jan 3rd, 2008 11:49:16 AM
He's the perfect Bond Villain. as for Lederer, Sorry but Joe Don Baker rules. Lederer is supposed to be a sophisticated hard drinking American, not some Aussie ponce.
The Patented Craig 'Pout'... by BoggyCreekBeast	Jan 3rd, 2008 11:50:52 AM
is the main reason I couldn't stand him as 007. He acts with his lips the way Jeff Goldblum uses his hands.
Type A personality Bond by toadkillerdog	Jan 3rd, 2008 12:00:04 PM
They don't sit back and wait for anyone. That is what makes Bond Bond. To those of you who said he should have 'thought about it' before he chased that dude, well none of you are Type A. And you just do not get what Bond is. He is a hammer. He has plenty of brains too, but he is deployed to be a hammer. His license is to kill, not to 'hope that guy falls off the ledge so i wont break a fingernail climbing after him'.
Is it still supposed to come out this year? Shouldn't they..umm by SantiagoAtez	Jan 3rd, 2008 12:06:22 PM
Is it still supposed to come out this year? Shouldn't they..umm..start filming?
I just don't want to see Bond by skimn	Jan 3rd, 2008 12:12:37 PM
"fall in love". Its a futile move on the filmmakers part to add some humanity to Bond, and the object of his desire might as well wear a red shirt ala Star Trek. I want to see Bond bed bad girls, kick ass, and defeat the bad guy, not a "luv" story tacked on to show Bond's "softer side">
C'mon, by Novaman5000	Jan 3rd, 2008 12:17:32 PM
Craig delivered the line "You noticed" Perfectly. He's suave enough, and he has the brutality that Brosnan lacked (though I liked Brosnan as Bond, don't get me wrong).
Judi Dench as 'M' by I Hope You Die	Jan 3rd, 2008 12:19:01 PM
Weird thing. Everyone I know who hates this film (admittedly 2 people) had an issue with Judi Dench playing 'M' again because "it didn't make sense" and developed their opinion on this basis before they'd even watched the film. I remember pointing out to a friend (before it was released) that it's a reboot and surely they should take issue with the fact that it's set in the modern day even though it's before the other films if they think Judi Dench "doesn't make sense." They frothily insisted that was fine but using Judi Dench was completely outrageous. WTF? Some people are just fucking retards.
skimn by just pillow talk	Jan 3rd, 2008 12:19:53 PM
That "love story" was important in the development of Bond becoming a cold hearted bastard that you want to see. He had his heart ripped out from him, betrayed, and then was powerless to save her. As he said near the end, "the bitch is dead", or something like that.
just pillow talk, as I said to BSB in the by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 3rd, 2008 12:22:09 PM
trek talkback, welcom to the brotherhood. You know everyone seem to love the Taye getting the chop, but that wasn't even close to my top favorite scenes. Bale in the middle of a group and destroying anything within 20 feet of him, those are the great scenes. I thought the pistol whipping one was the sickest.
Die Another Day is still ungodly awful by Lovecraftfan	Jan 3rd, 2008 12:23:11 PM
From it's plot twists that make no sense to the idea of DNA reconfiguration that clearly places this in science fiction to ice castles invisible cars giant death sunray mirrors and the villians RoboSuite it was all dumb and all stupid.
I Dunno by JDanielP	Jan 3rd, 2008 12:23:29 PM
I suppose if the ground terrain has that much going on (as it did), then there is the possibility that the pursued man would drop down in an area that's hard to reach, when pursued from (only) the ground. And either way, Bond would have to follow (from above or below). Maybe I should watch the scene again. And I did enjoy the flick...so a 2nd viewing will eventually come around, having purchased the dvd.
Problem with Joe Don Baker is as good as by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 3rd, 2008 12:27:40 PM
he is, every role since Walking Tall just doesn't measure up. That was the role of a lifetime, and his other roles just don't measure up. That's not a refelection of his skills as an actor, just him taking on a larger than life character. Gotta love it when he takes the sledge to his piece of crap European car though.
But Die Another Day has (sigh) Rosamund Pike. by C.K. Lamoo	Jan 3rd, 2008 12:27:52 PM
So I forgive it everything.
Will there ever be a black James Bond? by i kick tits	Jan 3rd, 2008 12:28:32 PM

Grammaton - I liked the scene with the dog in the trunk by just pillow talk	Jan 3rd, 2008 12:31:33 PM
He tried to warn them...they had to open the trunk. Also, his son in school while the shit going down was good too.
yes, I kick... by just pillow talk	Jan 3rd, 2008 12:33:16 PM
as soon as you change your ridiculous talkback name. Perhaps you need a punch in the balls.
skimn by Abominable Snowcone	Jan 3rd, 2008 12:35:54 PM
I don't think we will. I think "Casino" was the set-up for Bond's character in that regard. He fell for Vesper, was crushed, and now he's got to just be Bond and learn to keep women at a distance--emotionally, at least. So, yeah, what pillowtalk said. Speaking of which, I'm sending Eva Green over to your place when she's done washing my car...and skinpole.
ANOTHER EQUILIBRIUM CONVERT? by BringingSexyBack	Jan 3rd, 2008 12:39:22 PM
Is this a cult in the making? If so I'll volunteer to be Events Coordinator. I guarantee lots of strippers.
good Abom... by just pillow talk	Jan 3rd, 2008 12:43:09 PM
I have my Ghostrider costume all ready, and she'll be riding my 'hot' dog into the night. Yes BSB, I have seen the light...and the answer to all of life's problems is gun kata.
why by i kick tits	Jan 3rd, 2008 12:43:58 PM
why do people always get so angered by my talkback name. i dont understand.
I'm not a gaybee, but... by Abominable Snowcone	Jan 3rd, 2008 12:44:26 PM
I had my reservations about Craig as Bond, but I ended up liking "Casino" very much, even though I thought the game in the middle dragged a bit (thank God for that stairwell fight). I thought his "brutality" was great. We wouldn't have seen Connery or Dalton running after a bad guy like a maniac, T2 style, in an opening gambit. If there were any gadgets or stunts involved there, it was that monkey bad guy jumping off (and through) everything. Or as John McClane would call him, a "hamster boy." Plus, although I'm not a gaybee, when they showed Craig in the hotel bathroom mirror in the tux, I thought, yeah, it suits him. And the flirty train banter between Craig and Green was gold. Someone above mentioned Bond saying, "The bitch is dead," meaning he didn't care about Vesper and has steeled himself to be the agent he needs to be. I personally think he said that only because he was on the cellphone with M, and he wanted M to think he's ready to be the agent he needs to be, but in reality he's emotionally devastated, and it will take some time to be the agent he needs to be. Did I say "agent he needs to be" enough there?
toadkillerdog - Bond IS a hammer...and BRAINS, too. by JDanielP	Jan 3rd, 2008 12:45:06 PM
I like your viewpoint. The "driven" part of character is an enjoyable trait, be it Bond or Bourne or even Batman. But these characters have minds that make them who they are...and when this "driven aspect"(or "hammer", as you expressed) resists "common sense", sometimes common sense wins out. Even with Bond.
PILLOW - IMAGINE IF RAMBO USED GUN KATA by BringingSexyBack	Jan 3rd, 2008 12:46:35 PM
The possibilities!
Equilibrium was great. by Stone Cold Killa	Jan 3rd, 2008 12:47:28 PM
as was Ultraviolet. but hey, I like Bergman as much as the next guy.
I KICK TITS by BringingSexyBack	Jan 3rd, 2008 12:47:33 PM
As long as you don't do anything to Carice van Houten's hooters, it's okay with me.
pillowtalk by Abominable Snowcone	Jan 3rd, 2008 12:48:03 PM
I think you're thinking of Eva Mendes, who I must say I think is hotter than Eva Green. But I can't send Ms. Mendes to your place just right, because when I told her to wash the dishes I found soapscum on them, and now there must be "administrative punishment."
BringingSexyBack, it didn't take you long by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 3rd, 2008 12:55:24 PM
as a new member to recruit others. My man. Sorry Stone Cold Killa, but most of the cult thinks Wimmer peaked at Equilibrium, and Ultraviolet tanked. But, I guess there's alway gotta be one dissenter. Ooh I got it, Sheriff Buford Pusser using the gun-kata. Redneck gun-kata. Hell yeah.
XIPHOS - SCORES GIRLS GUARANTEED by BringingSexyBack	Jan 3rd, 2008 01:01:01 PM
No skanks for this cult. It'll be a great recruiting tool too!
GRAMMATON - I'M SENDING AN EQUILIBRIUM DVD TO MY GRANDPARENTS by BringingSexyBack	Jan 3rd, 2008 01:03:12 PM
That's how deep my devotion to the cause is.
Oh, and toadkillerdog, one more thing..... by JDanielP	Jan 3rd, 2008 01:03:40 PM
When James Bond DOES catch up to the pursued man, even if Bond IS only "waiting for him" on the other side, you can be sure that...Bond IS very much the HAMMER we want him to be. That is,...that's as it should be.
Pillow and Abom by skimn	Jan 3rd, 2008 01:04:13 PM
I know, I get the ramifications. Those scenes just seemed to come from another movie altogether. It did give me the chance to get up and make myself a beverage. Oh, and I caught EQ a couple of weeks ago also. GUN-FU!!
JDanielP by toadkillerdog	Jan 3rd, 2008 01:06:48 PM
You are right about common sense sometimes winning out over the 'driven' Type A 'Hammer'. But that is what makes Bond and his ilk so fascinating. Yes, they have brains. Bond, Bourne and especially Batman. They are all highly intelligent, but in the end, the prime motivator is: action. There have alwways been and will always be men (and women) whose primary need for 'action' trumps that of common sense. It is why the 'normals' can look on in awe and sometimes fright at what these people accomplish. I am talking about real people her. The ones who climb rocky hills with no ropes, the ones who freefall from planes with no parachutes (they hope that their jumping partners who do have chutes will catch them) Cliff divers, deep sea divers etc. And it fascinates the average everyday man/woman who would never conceive of doing those things. Bond needs, craves, must have action. The same as Batman and to a lesser extent Bourne. I say lesser for Bourne not because of skills, but because he was made into the weapon he became - but he still volunteered. The writers of CR understood that what makes Bond so attractive is that disregard for common sense - sometimes. He is a hammer to be wielded. He can be subtle - sometimes, but his very nature is action.
You're never too old BSB, or too young for by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 3rd, 2008 01:08:44 PM
that matter. Well, okay I guess I'm not going to let my 7-year old watch it. She's into Barbie anyway. By the way I love hijacking talkbacks to spread the word, not for personal pride or to be a jerk, but just to educate the unfortunate uninitiated to the greatness of Equilibrium.
shit, you're right Abom by just pillow talk	Jan 3rd, 2008 01:12:56 PM
Send them both over...I have an itch that they can only scratch. BSB - Rambo don't need gun kata: just a bow and arrow, knife, and he'll come into possession of anything else he needs.
The Rambo trailer didn't look too bad, but by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 3rd, 2008 01:16:08 PM
wish they had kept the name as John Rambo a la Rocky Balboa.
I'm curious as to what Marc Foster by skimn	Jan 3rd, 2008 01:16:25 PM
will bring to the next installment. It seems in the past that the producers have hired directors with interesting track records ( Spottiswoode, Apted, early Tamahori ), but ironically have directed the flattest Bonds. And Campbell comes out of top of the recents with Goldeneye and Casino. Who knew?
Let me beg to differ - somewhat;on Equillibrium by toadkillerdog	Jan 3rd, 2008 01:18:13 PM
Ok, so this is a Bond Talkback, and some have decided to hype another movie. Fine. This is America: Get rich or die tryin'. But if you are going to hype a movie, make sure it is worth it. Equilibrium was a fine little movie. Just as Dark City was a fine little movie. No need to turn them into anything more than that. Saw them once, and really do not remember much more than they were entertaining - but not deserving endless praise.
I tried by magnius	Jan 3rd, 2008 01:18:16 PM
I really did!! But I just cannot like Casino Royale or Daniel Craig!! Maybe he will improve with the next film? I'd like to think so. But why in all honesty did we need the "reboot" shit? It added nothing to the film because it was so under used as an idea. OK OK, so the poker didn't go on for an hour..but it certainly felt like it!! If people enjoyed the film then great :) But please show some respect for the ones who hated it...believe it or not EVERYONES opinion is correct even if it does differ from yours. The fact remains that no Bond film has ever sent me to sleep, yet Casino Royale managed to make me fall into a coma on both viewings.
Toad Killer Dog, gotta disagree, but that's by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 3rd, 2008 01:23:50 PM
okay. You've got your opinion, that's cool. Although, someone pointed out to me the huge number of similarities between The Matrix and Dark City. Hey, I love The Matrix, but gotta wonder why they never got sued.
Abominable Snowcone by JDanielP	Jan 3rd, 2008 01:24:23 PM
Your post, above, had me thinking as to how (gorgeous) women play a part in the life of James Bond. And I thought how interesting it would be if Bond allowed himself to fall in love, yet would ultimately draw the line every time, as is his duty. When you think about that,...when you consider living a life in such a way, one can only imagine what "driven" qualities that would instill. In moments of action, such release would be quite powerful. (And in the world of George Lucas and Star Wars, perhaps this is why Jedi are forbidden to love, since powerful emotions are involved.) Perhaps Bond requires a taste of the dark side. If this...resistance to love, which is in order to fulfill his duty, is what drives him, are we not better for it, as an audience?
Actually the Bond movie I've never been able by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 3rd, 2008 01:25:37 PM
to sit through entirely was Never Say Never Again. Don't get me wrong, I love Connery, but it just didn't do it for me.
HEY XIPHOS by BringingSexyBack	Jan 3rd, 2008 01:27:33 PM
I'll check with their inventory department. It may require a special order but I'll get you what you need for sure. No sweat!
Its just because EQ kind of fell between the cracks by skimn	Jan 3rd, 2008 01:28:49 PM
and never got the props it deserves. Christian Bale gives a performance as strong as any of his bigger budget roles, and Wimmer directed Ultraviolet (CRAP), and was never heard from again.
Never Say Never by skimn	Jan 3rd, 2008 01:33:20 PM
I will only watch that for the fight in the spa. I love that Bond blinds his opponent with a dousing of his own specimen...
darrenspool by gringostar	Jan 3rd, 2008 01:35:42 PM
Dude, That was all kinds of stupid.
Gotta agree with darrenspool it was like by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 3rd, 2008 01:38:36 PM
"Here let me throw some pee pee in your eyes. Ha ha I am so funny." No, even for the tongue-in-cheek borderline cheesiness of Bond that was dumb.
My bad, I thought darrenspool said the by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 3rd, 2008 01:39:44 PM
pee throwing was stupid.
Bond fell in love and Married by toadkillerdog	Jan 3rd, 2008 01:40:40 PM
in On Her Majesty's Secret Service. Great film, very good job by Lazenby. Diana Rigg never looked better (ok some of those skin tight leather outfits in the Avengers were smokin hot - but I digress). It was a great love story (for an action flick) and a great action flick (for a love story). But having Bond married could destroy the character. Bond is what he is because he is alone.
Brosnan Brutality? No, but he had potential in Goldeneye by JasonPratt	Jan 3rd, 2008 01:42:14 PM
I was actually pleased when I first watched Goldeneye and saw the director coaxing some whiplash inducing moves out of Brosnan, even in small tics like when he's setting a bomb and being shot at, and flicks away in slight annoyance from a column spattering near him. The shot on the yacht where he sees an assailant reflected in the brass and swats him with--what was it, some kind of twisted cloth? (Been a while since I saw the film...) Great timing. Lethality had been achieved. *** Then the other films occurred... {g} I still love them, but just not the same level of lethality and menace from Brosnan. (Which in turn is quite eclipsed by Craig and even Connery's thuggishness. Which in turn reminds me that that was part of the hidden point to Vin Diesel's character in xXx: he was a competent thug learning how to be something more, too. Moore and Dalton never seemed particularly menacing to me at all.)
GCB - I can not tell you why by toadkillerdog	Jan 3rd, 2008 01:46:57 PM
The makers of Dark City never sued Matrix, but may be for same reason why Terry Goodkind was never sued by Robert Jordan. Say what you want about Matrix, but it was the superior movie.
You guys are wrong about Moonraker. Watch it again. by Spandau Belly	Jan 3rd, 2008 01:47:16 PM
You're right that Moonraker had a sci-fi element infused because sci-fi was big at that moment, but Moonraker was not a blatant sci-fi genre jump movie. The plot is actually recycled point for point from The Spy Who Loved Me. Baddie wants to destroy human race and restart civilization with hand-picked sample of humans. Baddie builds a Noah's Arc type deal to protect his cult while he destroys the world (in SWLM it was an underwater station in MR it was a space station). Bond only goes to the space station at the end, and it doesn't look any different from half the other evil layers that every other Bond villain has. The tone, the action, the characters are all typical Bond. Most of it takes place right here on Earth. It's not like Drax wore a Vader mask or they had teleporters or aliens or anything. Sheesh.
This could go on for decades... by bswise	Jan 3rd, 2008 01:51:43 PM
The facts are that that everyone was up in arms when Sean Connery got the role, and his Bonds were getting pretty silly towards the end, too. Diamonds are Forever is probably the silliest of his, but it's also my favorite. Goldfinger is also very silly (the only think he does right is eff Pussy Galore), but it's a classic. Mooraker was also once a favorite, when I was 12, and man was that a silly movie (basically a remake of the Spy Who Loved Me in space). I think the last one I actually enjoyed was Never Say Never Again. Everything since has tried way too hard overreaching for something (like The Cold War) that doesn't even exist anymore. Today's Bonds are like trying to teach an old dog how to milk a dead cash cow while beating it to a pulp with the wrong end of the stick. Some day, we can look forward to Jar-Jar Abrams' Star Trek v. Bond "re-boot."
Moonraker by magnius	Jan 3rd, 2008 01:52:04 PM
It was ok, could have done without Jaws falling in love and becoming a good guy though.
Oh I don't disagree with the fact Matrix was by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 3rd, 2008 01:53:26 PM
superior. But the concepts were so similar. There's a race of beings who have enslave the humans without their knowledge. They think the world is real, but it isn't and only a small percentage of individuals know something is wrong and can't handle it. Then there is a master who trains a pupil to become the one who can save the humans from these beings who can manipulate reality at their will. As Dark City kind of fell through the cracks, and this was a pre-24 Kiefer Sutherland (this was really a good, but wussy role for him) it's not surprising this hasn't been brought up more often.
Never Say "Never Say Never Again" Again by magnius	Jan 3rd, 2008 01:55:38 PM
NSNA isn't really part of the franchise is it? Just a cheesy remake of Thunderball.
neck snapping device from World is Not Enough by Spandau Belly	Jan 3rd, 2008 02:05:57 PM
BTW if anybody knows where I can get one of those I'd love one for my living room.
NSNA was I believe the first Bond film by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 3rd, 2008 02:10:10 PM
not produce by Albert R. Broccolli producations, and yes, I believe it was a Thunderball remake. Pluse it didn't have the cool sillouette dancing girl intro that we've come to know and love.
GCB by skimn	Jan 3rd, 2008 02:10:54 PM
What I like about the "pee throwing" is that Bond just picks up a beaker of fluid, not knowing whats in it and uses it. Its not till after his adversary dies, does Bond acknowledge the contents. I'm not saying it's Shakespeare, just the end of a nicely staged fight in the middle of the muddle of Never Say Never.
Never say Never - is not part of 'Canon' by toadkillerdog	Jan 3rd, 2008 02:13:45 PM
Bwise, i agree in part with what you said. Every Bond has faced criticism, some legit, some not. Bond is an outsize character, and lest face it, some of the plots are pulp at the best (or worst). If a real person had been knocked unconscious as many times as Bond, they would be dead or in a loony bin. The point is that it is not supposed tp be real, just real entertaining.
Codename: Bond by magnius	Jan 3rd, 2008 02:15:15 PM
I remember hearing a theory a while ago that the producers were going to use an idea that "James Bond" was a name you were given when promoted to 007 (upon the death/retirement of a previous "Bond"). The idea was that the previous actor (arguments sake say Brosnan) would be killed off in the pre-credit sequence and the new actor (Craig) introduced after. Sounds like a cool idea, they hinted at it in OHMSS ("This never happened to the other fella") and the idea has already been used in the David Niven spoof of Casino Royale.
Mr Saxon, actually someone else brought it by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 3rd, 2008 02:17:06 PM
up, and I just went with the flow.
Im not feelin' it... by DoctorWho?	Jan 3rd, 2008 02:19:50 PM
Craigs okay. Put Brosnan into this new 'gritty' 'realistic' Bond format and Im sold. Im a Roger Moore guy from way back,but Brosnan had a steely look in his eye that NO OTHER Bond had. Unfortunately, that larger than life, over the top Bond style had run it's course. Brosnan would flourish in this new redux style...much like Keaton would in Nolans Batman vision
A revolving "James Bond" is a fascinating by skimn	Jan 3rd, 2008 02:21:21 PM
idea. That's the one thing about the Bond series. If I was a world travelling secret agent that saved the world on a bi-annual basis, you'd think a dozen alarms would go off as soon as I bragged that I was "Bond, James Bond".
Greatest Roger Moore Bond Moment (As I remember it) by C.K. Lamoo	Jan 3rd, 2008 02:22:41 PM
Octopussy - Moore is sliding down staircase banister with a machine gun. Sees the knob at the bottom is going to castrate him. Shoots off the knob in the nick of time.
Mr Saxon, you may blame me, not Grammaton by just pillow talk	Jan 3rd, 2008 02:25:47 PM
I had merely informed him that I had recently seen it finally.
And I think OHMSS has one of John Barry's by skimn	Jan 3rd, 2008 02:27:33 PM
most underrated scores.
Never say Never again is not a part of the BOND... by travis-dane	Jan 3rd, 2008 02:29:41 PM
series!They did the movie based on a script that several parties had their hands on.I think it had something to do with the aftermath of Harry Saltzmann leaving the franchise(I`m not 100% sure,it is a long and complicated story).Sure is:no Monty Norman Bond theme,no 007 gun barrel,I think no M(he is called different)and some other things,no Walther PPK.But it is a fun movie.Produced by Sony.
Don't know about the score, but OHMSS by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 3rd, 2008 02:30:17 PM
is one of the most underated bond movies. Too bad George Lanzenby (sp?) was a one-hit wonder. He was great.
S'okay, and I'll admit I do sometimes get by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 3rd, 2008 02:33:14 PM
a little carried away. Ya think? I guess that's what geek love is all about.
bring it on Miss Saxon.... by just pillow talk	Jan 3rd, 2008 02:33:30 PM
And I really liked OHMSS, though I think that mostly has to do with the way it ended.
MANTITS? by travis-dane	Jan 3rd, 2008 02:33:31 PM

I come here for 'SCOOPS' NOT 'OOPS!' by Stark Industries	Jan 3rd, 2008 02:38:04 PM
I used to hit this site first thing every day before anything! Now, if I want the Scoop on something, or God forbid an inside look or view, I have to go to other more informed sites. Not all of us are able to go to the BNAT's or be a part of anything but this site. Now I have to go over to V-rioty, CHUD, Superherohype, Comics to Film and other reviews sites to stay current. Sad that this site used to blow 'em all away but now I just use it to check in about twice a week. Hey guys! Get it together and be the site that you started out to be! I still am thankful for all you do but let's stay on the cutting-edge... not the cutting room floor. Thanks! Boot Jets to Full Power! -Stark
Wasn't it For Your Eyes Only where it had by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 3rd, 2008 02:39:46 PM
Bond at his wife's grave, and Blofeld in a wheelchair using the copter to try and kill Bond. As I was young and hadn't seen OHMSS I didn't get it until I saw the former.
Stark Industries - change your name by toadkillerdog	Jan 3rd, 2008 02:49:03 PM
The proper name, the greatest name, the only name that conveys the true power, and majesty is: Stark International. That dweeb Denny O'neil changed it to Industires when he emasculated ol shellhead -Ok, talk about highjacking a talkback! I am guilty as charged, but I am a diehard Golden Avenger freak. Your heart is in the right place though!
GCB:Yes it was and Blofeld never showed up again! by travis-dane	Jan 3rd, 2008 02:49:36 PM
Funny thing is after all the movies inbetween Blofeld was still in a wheelchair and had a neckbrace as if the end of OHMSS was yesterday!
I hope the villian won't die 3/4 of the way through by zooch	Jan 3rd, 2008 02:59:06 PM
Like the last villian. The film should have ended there. I could have done without the cringe worthy Paul Haggis "Whatever I am - I'm yours" speech Bond gives to Vesper after that. Still this is one of the most exciting film franchises out there right now. Daniel Craig is the man.
Mr Saxon by toadkillerdog	Jan 3rd, 2008 03:01:58 PM
Being blissfully unaware that the thought-police were roaming this talkback, I must apologize for interjecting a tangential topic into the discussion. It would be a lie to say I will never do it again though! Therefore I extend to you a heart-felt . Yours Truly, ToadKillerDog
In the immortal words of SCTV's vampire by toadkillerdog	Jan 3rd, 2008 03:36:02 PM
Ooo, scary. Veddy scary!
Hey Yeti... by Sappers Forward	Jan 3rd, 2008 03:58:53 PM
"American Racial Tensions",...what like every third world country I've been to? Maybe like south Africa? No nothing as bad as America right? Get off your high horse and realize this: EVERYONE WANTS TO LIVE IN AMERICA. Anyway, if you were refering to something completely different...sorry. More on the topic at hand: I like the new Bond. The movies are up to date and the action is better than ever. I agree that the next Bond flick should show us a more refined version and less the "blund instrument" that Craig was in his first Bond movie.
Bond is not a codename, that's retarded by Spandau Belly	Jan 3rd, 2008 03:59:50 PM
So what, you get the same codename as some other blokes and suddenly you like the same drink, you're a womanizer, you make puns about people's deaths, you were married to Diana Rigg, you have a problem with authority, you give Q a hard time and have countless other similiarities? That's fucking stupid. Bond is the same character reintrepted and rebooted over time.
WOW Instruction!!! by DoctorWho?	Jan 3rd, 2008 04:03:00 PM
YOU GOT THE SCOOP ON AICN! We'll see that posted here in about a week.
Grammaton Cleric Binks, yeah it was For Your Eyes Only by Spandau Belly	Jan 3rd, 2008 04:03:15 PM
Where Bond kills Blofeld in the precredit sequence. Blofeld pleads for his life trying to bribe Bond with a delicatessen. ??? I'd love to see an alternate cut where Bond forgives Blofeld for killing his wife in exchange for his own delicatessen.
Mr Saxon, I gotta disagree, I thought Craig by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 3rd, 2008 04:15:55 PM
was more Conneryish than Mooreish. Roger Moore was by far the most comedic of the Bonds, although they all had some element of it. I didn't see that. First mission aside, I think this was a more rough and tough bond than the suave sophisticated Bond we've come to know. Heck, he even needed someone to pick his tux for him.
Everyone was not up in arms when Connery by skywalkerfamily	Jan 3rd, 2008 04:17:43 PM
got the role. In fact, Dr. No was the sleeper hit of that year. Connery was almost an unknown.
SPECTRE was mentioned in Dr. No by freerangecelt	Jan 3rd, 2008 04:34:21 PM
The film, so if the film were loosely remade, would the name be allowed to be used?
Darrenspool sucks by Colonel Activity	Jan 3rd, 2008 04:35:35 PM
and so does Jett, if he is in fact, the Jett from Batman-on-Film. That guy sucks.
Read a Fucking Book by Asaraiel	Jan 3rd, 2008 04:38:35 PM
Any other time something is adapted and deviated as massively as most of the Bond films have, you people would be shitting yourselves with rage. Craig was perfect as Ian Fleming's James Bond. Perfect. Fleming's Bond was a total bastard, not a suave seduction machine. And as for M being played by the Dame - it was a reboot, not just a prequel. They liked her in the role so they brought her over to the totally new continuity. I don't really care either way, though I'd like to see a more book-based M, but it's not a continuity error in any way.
Asaraiel by Colonel Activity	Jan 3rd, 2008 04:50:57 PM
Good point. The Joker not being "perma-white" is the best example of what you're talking abou that I can think of.
Asarial by jamestewart007	Jan 3rd, 2008 04:52:07 PM
You pretty much got it right. Although Bond started out as a bit of a romantic in the books when he actually fell in love with the girls, he was a totaly fucking mean machine by the middle of the series. As for Bloefeld, he is mentioned right up until You onliy Live Twice, which i think is the 3rd last book of the 14?... Anyway, I really enjoyed casino Royal and respected that it kept the core concept of the character and tried very ahrd to stay true to a book written almost 50 years ago, but brining it up to today's speed. Anyone else laugh when you saw bond driving a Ford Focus? I really hope they keep up this continuity stuff in the movies too. While reading the books you see Bond become a shadow of a man, and there is a constant theam of you can only push a man so far before he breaks. And reading that breaking point (on her majesties secret service) was amazing! And after reading that book, the movie became one of my favorites. Dr. No is another good one, which basically adapted the book word for word, minus the fight with the giant squid... And I hope that gets encorporated in movie down the line. But for right now, I'll be very happy if they can keep up the same tone and pace they had in CR.
Daniel Craig gave a strong performance by kabong	Jan 3rd, 2008 04:55:07 PM
in a weak film.
The film didn't have to be a reboot by skywalkerfamily	Jan 3rd, 2008 05:15:39 PM
The first half could have stayed the same. Just show Bond and how he got his double oh, and then it could be a flash forward to now, and the new Bond.
Is AICN too lazy to report Bond 22 has begun filming?? by Forestal	Jan 3rd, 2008 05:30:58 PM
Guess so.
i think they should have gone with.... by hesky75	Jan 3rd, 2008 06:51:41 PM
gerard butler...
by hesky75	Jan 3rd, 2008 06:52:04 PM
as bond
BOND 22 NEEDS MORE GADGETS by BringingSexyBack	Jan 3rd, 2008 07:08:35 PM
Something better than a defibrillator with a loose wire.
Craig has already established himself as a great Bond, any furth by vini77	Jan 3rd, 2008 07:33:24 PM
Yup
Silverfinger was banned again!BRAVO AICN! by travis-dane	Jan 3rd, 2008 07:42:56 PM
I hope this time it is for real!
Mathieu Amalric does not exist (in this dojo)! by IAmMrMonkey!	Jan 3rd, 2008 08:45:21 PM
We haven't had this Diving Bell movie in the UK and so I've tried googling this Amalric guy and checking on IMDB but can find no pictures! He doesn't exist!
Not a joke. Clear image of the cloverfield monster by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz	Jan 3rd, 2008 09:02:04 PM
http://tinyurl.com/2us4r2 I am already sick of this movie but I know a lot of you are looking forward to it. The above link is the best picture yet of the monster. VERY clear. Enjoy.
Don't do it! by IAmMrMonkey!	Jan 3rd, 2008 09:09:13 PM
I haven't checked the above link and I don't intend to. Join me, fellow AICN geeks! Watch Cloverfield without knowing how Voltron looks in the movie! Don't spoil it for yourself!
Told you I wasn't joking Xiphos. by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz	Jan 3rd, 2008 09:18:57 PM
I think it looks like Godzilla with a turtle shell. The legs look very much like Godzilla monster from the Roland Emmerich film IMO. I dunno I mean it's hard to buy a big monster stomping through NYC again since we've been burned before and honestly the hype and over use of viral marketing has pretty much killed the movie for me.
It's Ron Paul! by IAmMrMonkey!	Jan 3rd, 2008 09:25:20 PM
That's right. Whilst the monster from Cloverfield is destroying New York in 2008, Ron Paul will be destroying taxes as well as building a huge metal wall around America that not only keeps out nasty immigrants but also deflects nuclear weapons and converts sunlight into gold. In 2008, Cloverfield will be coming to a cinema near you but Ron Paul will be coming to the White House where he'll be inventing a cure for cancer and shoving his fist up the ass of evil. I'll be voting for Ron Paul and - What the fuck am I talking about? I don't even live in the U.S and I really don't care about all this Ron Paul stuff. (Sorry)
No...it's Mathieu Amalric! by IAmMrMonkey!	Jan 3rd, 2008 09:37:41 PM
Could be for all I know. I can't find a bloody picture of the guy anywhere on the internet. Is it because JJ doesn't want the monster ruined in Cloverfield?
It's Voltron! by IAmMrMonkey!	Jan 3rd, 2008 09:40:08 PM
Rejoice all those who said it was Voltron! You were right!
It's a pissed off Journeyman fan! by IAmMrMonkey!	Jan 3rd, 2008 09:41:47 PM
Quick! Someone tell him that Brad Zucker doesn't live in New York!
It's Barbara Streisand! by IAmMrMonkey!	Jan 3rd, 2008 09:44:58 PM
You rained on her parade and now she's going to rain TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION on New York!
This would be a good time to ask... by IAmMrMonkey!	Jan 3rd, 2008 09:51:23 PM
..has Aint It Cool reported on the news that there will be a prequel to The Host (as reported on several other sites)? No? Oh.
IT'S A GIANT TURD WITH LEGS AND ARMS by BringingSexyBack	Jan 3rd, 2008 10:06:04 PM
I wonder if shit shits shit?
Fraid not. Xiphos by IAmMrMonkey!	Jan 3rd, 2008 10:19:17 PM
I am an unaffiliated numbnut. I can guess at the sort of articles in the DM. I'm betting the headlines were something like "Disgrace! UK women party in short skirts and high heels on New Years! And there was probably sex afterwards! Disgusting! What has happened to the once great Britain?" I hate that paper. And i detest the fact that my parents read it every day and forced me to read it for seventeen years. It's a wonder I didn't beat some of my friends to death for being black, homosexual or working class after being brainwashed by that paper.
Mr Saxon by IAmMrMonkey!	Jan 3rd, 2008 10:24:35 PM
We can wish.
He he he. I just noticed something. by IAmMrMonkey!	Jan 3rd, 2008 10:27:44 PM
IMDB also reviews porn movies. Sweet.
Xiphos, good to know that... by IAmMrMonkey!	Jan 3rd, 2008 11:30:30 PM
...it hasn't changed one bit. I parted ways with the Daily Mail after my mother threatened to destroy my Morrissey albums because the DM had printed an article stating that he was trying to convert all his fans into homosexual racists or some such rubbish. My mother believes what the DM tells her sadly. By the way, what's the equivalent (ultra right-wing) paper over there so I know to avoid it when I visit?
"deflects nuclear weapons" by 'Cholera's Ghost	Jan 4th, 2008 12:36:56 AM
..."and converts sunlight into gold". Wow, thanks for the laugh.
what would Cubby like? by Maniaq	Jan 4th, 2008 04:19:08 AM
THAT'S been the biggest problem with the Bond films for a loooooong time - I think Prossor hit the nail on the head - and it's unfortunate because I've been rewatching the Bond flicks lately (thanx to a guy called Donatello!) and Connery's Bond REALLY gives me the shits! The smug way he delivers those ridiculous "witty" one-liners - it's as bad as the worst Arnie flick you can think of - and he's FUCKING SCOTTISH FOR FUCK'S SAKE! Everybody so conveniently forgets that fucking accent! Somebody told me to pay attention to Dalton's efforts so I had another look at License to Kill & Living Daylights - and I gotta say his performances shat all over his predecessors. Unfortunately, as someone has already pointed out, Cubby was still involved so there were still stupid gadgets handy at the right times and other "formula" elements that they never had a chance to get away from. Cubby always wanted Brosnan so they got him as soon as he was available and Dalton was out - ironically, I remember Brosnan once saying in an interview that Dalton was let down by shit scripts and he really is a good actor. I wonder if Craig might say the same about him? Interesting that Campbell did both Brosnan's and Craig's debut Bonds and they both ROCKED - let's hope they manage to keep rocking this time, instead of what happened to the franchise with the last guy! Just one more thing - Asaraiel, I totally agree about Casino Royale and all these people who want a pretty boy "suave" Bond obviously have never read the books (possibly ANY books) - I want to see how Bond gets the SCAR that runs down the side of his face! The only thing I didn't like about CR was Judi Dench - not because of continuity issues but because she plays "M" as a far less sympathetic character than in the books - this is not an M that would invite Bond to a game of Bridge at Blades to catch a cheat by the name of Drax! This M would always refer to him as "007" - never as "James"...
Pah, A pox on the Daily Mail by Lost Jarv	Jan 4th, 2008 04:21:28 AM
yuck, yuck, yuck. I hate the fact that they seem to lament the passing of the 1950's. And I'm still waiting for their written admission that society did not collapse when the pub was allowed to open after 11. Wankers. Mind you I also hate the Guardian as well- when Amy Wino-house got admitted to rehab a guardian writer went on the BBC and tried to blame sexism/ anti-feminism for it. Stupid woman
blahblahblahblah... by Frijole	Jan 4th, 2008 05:07:17 AM
In come the "hipper-than-thou" drones... the ones who actually found one, and one only, copy of an actual Fleming novel and want to go off rabid about the "raping of the franchise"... well, guess what? The movie franchise entire has been off the mark since, well, pretty much the get-go. Even my father (who was alive and in college AND a fan in the late 60's) puts it, "They haven't made a Bond movie which sits close to the books EVER!" If anyone is lucky enough to have access to the originals... you'll see that the movies have been distant cousins to the Ian Fleming envision forever. So what is all the bitching about? Especially all the non-Bond bitching? WTF? Quit wasting fans' space w/your distantly-connected diatribes. OKAY... Question... can anyone point to any one Fleming novel and say, "Dead-on," much less "eh... 80% close,"? No. What makes the Bond franchise great (especially in the wake of having Judy Dench as "M", which will lend creedence to my argument) is the ability to fit into any generation with the notion that Bond is timeless. It'd be stupid to compare early Bond adventures to modern day. Duh, cold war is over, for one. What makes the "new Bond" so enticing is the notion that both James Bond and the 00 designation are entertwined... one doesn't only receive a double-oh plus number... there's a name to go w/the number. Hence the idea that "Bond" can be re-booted w/a modern day approach (as opposed to the Soviet-spectre ((no pun intended)), cold-war origin of Commander Bond). Evil is gonna be rather timeless... superheroes, even super-cool British spy ones, are not. But, in the seemy underbelly crime world, a name says a lot. Why should just the "double-oh" designation? If that were the "case", then we should expect to see spin-offs detailing the exploits of MI-6's 001178342.... not as sexy, huh? The introduction of Judy Dench as "M" is proof of this mentality. The most glaring of departures from ol' Bernard Lee as one can get... a manly woman (albeit of great acting accumen). If the head of MI-6 can be malleable, then why not the actual Bond? I'd like to think that the James Bond character is re-invented each and every time a new actor is brought in to portray him. And why bum out a/o disillusion the audience w/ departure movies... where we see our beloved spy-without-equal getting royally offed? Because Bond is supposed to be a mentality... a designation... a plateau of bad-assed-ness where the newest model of the Aston Martin, so to speak, gets to see time on the road, so to speak. In summation: quit bitching about a "black Felix Leiter" and "non-suave-Bond" and, god frikkin' forbid, "where's the over-abundance of gadgets?" Two words for you... maybe you'll recognize how they might ruin a franchise, despite the chops of an already-established actor..."INVISIBLE FUCKING CAR!!!" There... quit your bitchin.
and... by Frijole	Jan 4th, 2008 05:20:14 AM
I have absolutelyno idea what I was trying to say there... that's how riled up you dingalings got me. You didn't write original Bond... you most likely haven't read original Bond... as original Bond had his roots in a time which has long since passed, I think a couple of kindly liberties are allowed to be taken w/the franchise at this point. If (the one "bastion" to which most TB'ers like to point to in this argument, apparently) Albert R. had no qualms about putting Bond in space (resplendent w/ laser sound effects in the vaccuum of space, no less) then why is anyone crying on their balls about Felix being black or Daniel Craig not being enough like Connery? Have I been pointless enough to get my pointlessness across? At least there's no FUCKING INVISIBLE CAR!!
by Frijole	Jan 4th, 2008 05:28:36 AM
It's one thing entirely to accept Bond randomly taking the same mission twice, complete w/ some of the same names involved (the abortionistic "Never Say Never), but to imply that there's many Bonds and many differing storylines? Well, sell my underwater sled to Drago! I thought that this Bond chap took Dick Clark's eternal youth elixir (which only Desmond Llewellyn's Q could've made) and battled Ruskies and Spectre baddies until the year 2020... when he was about 130 years old. Ugh... if I hadn't just launched such a lengthy diatribe, I'd suggest getting a life.
Uhhh.... by Frijole	Jan 4th, 2008 05:32:32 AM
San Dimas Highschool Football Rules................. I'm drunk.
"igotbigballs" by magnius	Jan 4th, 2008 06:04:59 AM
magnius by igotbigballs Jan 3rd, 2008 09:56:50 PM You suck Wow!! Such an insight, you must be very proud of your maturity and ability to add something meaningful to a conversation.
Bill Brasky by moviemaniac-7	Jan 4th, 2008 06:22:55 AM
Friends of mine were there and said there was some filming, although they didn't know what it was, but they were also drunk - knowing them.
Tuscany/Umbria by Bill Brasky	Jan 4th, 2008 06:55:11 AM
Moviemaniac-7, yeah, what a cool vacation. I need to go back to Europe every three or four years from now on. It is expensive as shit, but well worth it. I paid 6 Euroes for a fucking Peroni there at the square! (that's like $9) We also went to Venice, and since this is a Bond talkback, it is fun to see the places where they have filmed either classic (Casino Royale finale) or cheesy (Moonraker hovercraft chase)scenes. We also made it up to Lake Como (my dad is from there) and saw where they filmed the epiloge (and my personal favorite scene in Casino Royale), a beautiful estate right on the lake, about halfway between the city of Como and Bellagio. You know, the scene where bond snipes the guy with the HUGE assault rifle and then walks up in the $5,000 suit and hands him the classic "Bond, James Bond" line.
I dunno Saxon, I mean Craig has already by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 4th, 2008 07:37:24 AM
gone off in other directions from the Bond genre. Whether you liked Compass or not, you gotta admit it was a different type of role. I haven't seen it, I'll probably rent it. I'm still angry that Lanzenby (sp?) never got the career he deserved.
Never Say Never IS a bond movie by C.K. Lamoo	Jan 4th, 2008 09:25:28 AM
I mean, guys, James Bond is the main character. Think of it this way, Bond has two very similar adventures at different points in his career.
GCB:LAZENBY is right. by travis-dane	Jan 4th, 2008 09:57:50 AM

Xiphos by IAmMrMonkey!	Jan 4th, 2008 10:22:11 AM
You're absolutely right in that all our main papers are national. You have to remember that we're a hell of a lot smaller than you guys so you get local papers (for your town) and then you get national papers.
Do you morons know how to read? by kabong	Jan 4th, 2008 10:34:23 AM
Casino Royale, the movie, was not faithful to the novel. In the novel, the mission was not jeopardized by Bond falling in love. The love part came after Bond successfully turned the winnings over to MI6. The Head of the Soviet section of MI6 was responsible for assigning Vesper, a Soviet agent, to the operation. At no time in that operation did Bond screw up because he went soft for Vesper. Bond in the novel is an experienced world-weary war veteran, not some TEEN on his first job. He felt he was falling in love with Vesper because he was falling out of love with being a spy. Casino Royale was not the beginning of his career; it was the beginning of the end of his career.
Sorry Frijole by Dude_gimme_tabs	Jan 4th, 2008 10:35:06 AM
Sorry Frijole, but your Pa is wrong-tastic. Dr. No, From Russia With Love and On Her Majesty's Secret Service are pretty much, beat for beat, a straight adaptation of the books. The sniper sequence in The Living Daylights is effectively the short story of the same name, the entire Sotheby's sequence in Octopussy is direct from the Bond short story "Property of a Lady" and so on. Thunderball is almost identical, book to screen, but Thunderball is a whole can of worms opened involving Never Say Never Again and no more Blofield, ever... plus the legal case that eventually killed Fleming.
Frijole by jamestewart007	Jan 4th, 2008 10:44:39 AM
Dr. No stayed pretty close to the book. There was an extra car chase and girl, and they changed the ending, and no giant squid. But for its time, it did pretty good. Also, i don't think it would be very appropriate for an englishman to go running around saying "nigger head", "chigro (chinaman and black man mixed)", and claiming that giving the women the right to vote is the reason for homosexuality. Casino Royal did a pretty decent job of staying as close to an outdated book as it could. All of the main elements where there. LeChifre, Bond in a card game to take him down. The attempt on his life during the card game. Vesper betraying him, and then killing herself. But personally I like the end of the book much better where she was a double agent who killed herself out of fear and guilt, instead of striking a bargain. "The bitch is dead." is arguably the best line I have ever read to finish a novel off. The Bond Films, besides the 2 mentioned above, have mostly been poor representations of the novels, On Her Majesty's Secret Service was also not too bad (if you know the novel), but the rest: space fights, invisible cars, jet packs, flying cars, pretty much every single car in a bond film... are all horrible. The books were good because Bond took everything head on, and the only reason why he managed to get throught it was because he could take a beating like no other. The start of everybook is like "Bond is getting really bored because he just got out of thehospital after spending the last 3 months recovering from his previous mission..." He's mortal, he bleeds, he doesn't use gadgets, and this reboot was a breath of fresh compared to all the rest.
Best line to end a book: it's in "I, the Jury." by kabong	Jan 4th, 2008 11:09:36 AM
I won't spoil it for anyone. Mike Hammer: the toughest of the tough.
Thanks travis-dane, I'm too lazy to hit IMDB by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 4th, 2008 12:08:57 PM
and kabong makes a good point too.
RE: the writters strike is gonna hurt this movie by SantiagoAtez	Jan 4th, 2008 12:25:52 PM
I guess I don't understand...I thought the strike was just TV writers. Is Paul Haggis seriously not finishing the script?
Best ending line for a book? American Pyscho: by Colonel Activity	Jan 4th, 2008 12:51:52 PM
"This is not an exit."
Rehab for title song on the THUNDERBALL remake! by travis-dane	Jan 4th, 2008 02:29:35 PM
Bond in REHAB...classic.And Winehouse as guest star!
Hate to say it but the last good Bond song by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 4th, 2008 02:40:17 PM
was A View to a Kill by Duran Duran. You know this is true, even if you never liked Duran Duran. Also, unfortunately the movie had the ugliest Bond chick of them all Grace Jones. But hey it also had Christopher Walken and Tanya Roberts. Not the best Bond, but I found it enjoyable.
COME ON guys GOLDENEYE song is a classic... by travis-dane	Jan 4th, 2008 03:02:57 PM
music and lyrics by BONO and the EDGE,sung by Tina Turner!But to be honest with you:I like every Bond song(one of the best being OHMMS without lyrics)and check out the REMIX of OHMSS by the PROPELLERHEADS!And the DAVID ARNOLD experience CD,it has some good stuff too!
yes Casino Royale was not 100% faithful to the book by Maniaq	Jan 4th, 2008 07:29:43 PM
but the only thing that really bothered me was making Mathis (head of the French secret service FFS!!) into a stooge - Le Chiffre could have been tipped off by Vesper instead of him, no problems - also I'm a big fan of Giancarlo Giannini and can't stand Eva Green... Kabong, I agree he both falls in love with Vesper and out of love with the Service, but I fail to see how he jeopardises his mission - take Le Chiffre's money away from him - either way? No, it's not the beginning of his career in the book but neither is that the case in the film - he's PROMOTED to "00" and he's obviously got plenty of experience under his belt, which is nicely established at the beginning with the line to Carter about keeping his hand away from his ear...
The ban hammer fell on Memories! by Lost Jarv	Jan 7th, 2008 08:37:30 AM
thank god.
really? and there was much rejoicing! by just pillow talk	Jan 7th, 2008 09:25:09 AM

Yup, all his inane drive has been purged from the by Lost Jarv	Jan 7th, 2008 10:16:05 AM
hallowed TB's. Sadly I'm now at war with his English speaking clone- Nodiggity. I wonder what he did to get banned?
stupid keyboard by Lost Jarv	Jan 7th, 2008 10:16:40 AM
"inane drivel"
while M-O-M was a twat by just pillow talk	Jan 7th, 2008 10:19:40 AM
I wouldn't have thought he would post something that would get him booted. My only thought would be that he started being an uppity asshole to one of the black boxes or something. And I'm not sure who's worse, him, or Nodiggity. I'm leaning towards Nodiggity because of his dwelling on one topic where he's clearly wrong, and beating it to death.
nodiggity v ringwearer9 by Lost Jarv	Jan 7th, 2008 11:24:41 AM
That is truly a horrid pointy-headed argument. Best not to think about it too long. memories was an offensive, uppity little bastard. Maybe he was spouting his all americans are stupid shit in the wrong place.

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