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Aw Crap! HELLBOY 2 trailer goes live!

First by tylerdz	Dec 20th, 2007 02:19:51 PM
haha suckers
Good trailer by Artifakts	Dec 20th, 2007 02:20:54 PM
Look's good!!
looks like the first one by tylerdz	Dec 20th, 2007 02:22:54 PM

I loved The first Hellboy by erichaislar	Dec 20th, 2007 02:24:12 PM
really looking forward to this.
Tentacles are cool... by PornKing	Dec 20th, 2007 02:24:13 PM
Especially in japanese manga porn.
Awesome! by midknightmason	Dec 20th, 2007 02:27:11 PM
Loved the lovecraftian like creature at the end. Looks way better than the first.
Looks great! Can't freakin' wait for next summer! by odysseus	Dec 20th, 2007 02:27:58 PM
Major motion picture geek-asms.
Hell yeah! by Azazyel	Dec 20th, 2007 02:29:36 PM
This has me creaming my shorts like a teen in a strip club.
CLOVERFIELD IS A LION! by Dr. Stanley Goodspeed	Dec 20th, 2007 02:29:44 PM
...what?
Tambor by Rev. Slappy	Dec 20th, 2007 02:29:48 PM
You gotta love that guy!
Man, 2008 is gonna have some kick ass movies!! by Lanceloco	Dec 20th, 2007 02:30:48 PM

...slowly becoming...jaded...with these...monster... by future help	Dec 20th, 2007 02:30:49 PM
tenticles....movie city mayhem...dying...bored.
the first one was the epitomy of average by BMacSmith	Dec 20th, 2007 02:31:28 PM
very normal. totally ok. amazingly bleh. reminds me of the Mummy franchise. good but stupid and forgetable. Del Toro is massively overrated. But of course, i am a slave so i will be seeing this
Meh by Thick McRunFast	Dec 20th, 2007 02:31:30 PM
Watching people get punched through collapsible walls got old after they did it a few times in the first "Matrix".
MAN! next summer is going to be dope by erichaislar	Dec 20th, 2007 02:32:21 PM
Hellboy II, The dark Knight, Iron Man, Hulk, Indy 4, Plus what ever else. Geek heaven.
Nice by disfigurehead	Dec 20th, 2007 02:33:37 PM
Another movie to look forward to. I love the first Hellboy.
First picture of Johann (the ghost) at IGN!!!! by pelos_locos	Dec 20th, 2007 02:34:10 PM
Scroll down: http://tinyurl.com/26dnmb Damn aintitcool. Why didn't you tell me. I found by mistake.
More of this Constantine mixed with X-Men stuff? by emp	Dec 20th, 2007 02:34:17 PM
Cool. The first one was entertaining for the most part. But seriously, why hellboy? Isn't there shitloads of better and more original source material out there?
Looks like fun by Abominable Snowcone	Dec 20th, 2007 02:36:13 PM
what the hell. I'll see it. Get it? Hell? Seriously, '08 might rival summer '82. I'm going to need several changes of pants for all the cine-spooge I'll surely be unleashing.
I STAND CORRECTED by BurgerTime	Dec 20th, 2007 02:36:32 PM
Raimi is good. THIS is the tits.
Hellboy will rule 2008!! Del Toro, paisano, chingón!! by pelos_locos	Dec 20th, 2007 02:38:48 PM
Hellboy will rule, followed by The Dark Knight.
ugh by Lil LoLo	Dec 20th, 2007 02:39:26 PM
dudes punchin stuff part nine. first one was was completely boring.
Pan's Labyrinth by Shut the Fuck up Donny	Dec 20th, 2007 02:41:08 PM
I realize that Pan's Labyrinth was one of Del Toro's most recent (and acclaimed) films, but was it really necessary to cite it at the beginning of this preview? Considering this is a sequel and not a "new endeavor," the need to give the movie "street cred" seems a little silly. On the other hand, if they're trying to entice the art-house crowd, I just don't think this is their kind of movie.
Why are albinos always evil? by Domi'sInnerChild	Dec 20th, 2007 02:41:12 PM
Just curious. And where's that Elric movie anyway?
BMacSmith by erichaislar	Dec 20th, 2007 02:41:43 PM
Your telling me that after you watched Pan's labyrinth Del Toro is still massively overrated. Did we watch the same movie?
Hellboy and RON PAUL will get us out of hell! by shogunshin	Dec 20th, 2007 02:41:50 PM
holy cripes! HELLBOY returns, with the all too cool Del Toro back back back to the top! I hope there are some scenes with LOBSTER JOHNSON. Hellboy came from the pits of hell, and RON PAUL is going to get this country out of hell, by GETTING RID OF TAXES!!! how? he will close down the fed, close down the IRS, and NO MORE TAXES! thousands of dollars of YOUR money stays in YOUR POCKET! he will end all foreign troop deployment, saving TRILLIONS from the military industrial complex! lets give a big hand for del toro for bringing back HELLBOY, and in 2008, Hellboy is going to dominiate the movies, and i am going to VOTE FOR RON PAUL!
Gotta agree... by Tourist	Dec 20th, 2007 02:43:41 PM
...with Delo Toro being massively overrated. I don't think I've seen any film of his I would say is "Good". Jesus, not even well made. They all have a really overlit and colour timed look I seem averse to. It's strange though, I went to visit my dad the other day, who pretty much hates movies in general, and he asked me if I had seen Pan's Labrynth, since he loved it. I may just completely live on a different astral plane to Del Toro and his fans. Should not I'm not obese. Note, all these summer tent pole flicks you are geeking about are sequals, remakes or adaptations. Mostly sequal and remakes. So the coming summer will rival nothing. Thank you.
I enjoyed the first one...I like the looks of this one too by just pillow talk	Dec 20th, 2007 02:44:39 PM
And Pan's Labyrinth was a fantastic movie, with what I thought was the perfect ending for what transpired before.
"monstrocity" by Ray Gamma	Dec 20th, 2007 02:44:39 PM
it's monstrosity, Quint.
Where's the main character from the first movie? by -guyinthebackrow	Dec 20th, 2007 02:46:34 PM
Is Hellboy supposed to be the main character this time?
Aw Crap by Mandamas	Dec 20th, 2007 02:48:10 PM
Loved the trailer. The first Hellboy was entertaining, but far from perfect. I loved the animated movies that I have seen on Cartoon network, especially Blood and Iron. Now if they can get that kind of a creepy vibe in the movie I'll be thrilled.
Agreed. Great summer ahead. by JDanielP	Dec 20th, 2007 02:50:17 PM
Fantasy, Action, and Adventure! How we doing on the Sci-Fi front?
nailed it by chaselaw	Dec 20th, 2007 02:56:11 PM
love the "aw crap" at the end
Was that? by dynamicb	Dec 20th, 2007 02:57:37 PM
Morn from Star Trek DS9 in the last few seconds there taking a swing at Hellboy?? haha. Looks pretty good. The bad guy sounds like Tom cruise and looks like Jeremy Irons in "The Time Machine".
Agree, first was average, BUT by wilsonfisk89	Dec 20th, 2007 02:57:45 PM
I have high hopes for this one. His best work so far is the amazing 'the devils backbone.'
A summer to be excited about!? by wilsonfisk89	Dec 20th, 2007 02:59:11 PM
Wow. Your all right. Im 24, when was the last time... 89?
I dunno, maybe I want to live in MonstroCity by samsquanch	Dec 20th, 2007 03:00:09 PM
sounds like a fun place to hang out.
What's up with ths MySpace Bullshit? by Rickey Henderson	Dec 20th, 2007 03:00:33 PM
Freaking MySpace is block here at work. Lovely. Remember the good old days when a movie trailer wasn't posted on a social networking site? You know, like the quicktime homepage? And for the record, myspace is for 13 year olds. Grow up kiddies.
I like the fake-out at the beginning with the... by iamnicksaicnsn	Dec 20th, 2007 03:02:59 PM
"From the Director of Pan's Labyrinth." Thought that was a funny touch.
Hellboy vs. Jeremy Irons???? by Underdogthe3rd	Dec 20th, 2007 03:05:04 PM
Isnt that the UBER MORLOCK?
I love Hellboy, BUT.... by ShiftyEyedDog2	Dec 20th, 2007 03:05:57 PM
how the hell does Universal greenlight this for a sequel and NOT SERENITY??!?? I'm sure the budgets would be approximately the same.
I like that trailer...NOT and here's why by Motoko Kusanagi	Dec 20th, 2007 03:08:46 PM
Fracking 1,85:1 sucks. Best aspect ratio will always be 2,35:1
first one didnt grab me... by Obscura	Dec 20th, 2007 03:11:23 PM
but i must admit, that trailer looked pretty damn awesome. can really see some self influence there in the character design....they look like left overs from his last film... and when your last film is pans labyrinth, thats no bad thing.
Hellboy was okay... by Forsakyn	Dec 20th, 2007 03:14:01 PM
Hopefully this one is much better. Overall scope certainly looks bigger (which I know doesn't automatically equate to better). Still, they have my ticket money. I really like Perlman, and want this movie to be good. As far as this versus a sequel to Serenity - in all honesty, I'd rather watch the first Hellboy than Serentiy again. I loved Firefly, but the movie wasn't good - it forgot to entertain.
Motoko Kusanagi by JimCurry	Dec 20th, 2007 03:14:28 PM
Just calm down, alright?
Okay I will. by Motoko Kusanagi	Dec 20th, 2007 03:15:17 PM
If you say so, my Lord.
It's always those scary anime addicts that cause trouble by Rickey Henderson	Dec 20th, 2007 03:18:44 PM
Motoko Kusanagi, heh...
Interesting by maichi	Dec 20th, 2007 03:19:12 PM
Really. marleen@paradiso.be
Looking good by SpencerTrilby	Dec 20th, 2007 03:20:58 PM
but what was that music? Awful choice for a trailer. This lil' complaint apart, the first Hellboy was fairly decent and I don't see how that one wouldn't be even better.
What an imagination this guy has...damn! by TheRealSeveren	Dec 20th, 2007 03:22:31 PM
I couldnt count how many creatures were in that trailer. Hes like a songwriter but instead of songs he writes monsters and it looks like he's putting all of them on this album.
Grendel Film! by wilsonfisk89	Dec 20th, 2007 03:26:10 PM
The orgin story of Hunter Rose is tailor made for the screen, as Matt Wagner has crafted perfect story boards in the form of the graphic novel. Who should direct it, hypothetically? Im thinkin Park Chan Wook of Oldboy/Vengance trilogy fame...
HOT DAMN! by slone13	Dec 20th, 2007 03:26:41 PM
Looks like a blast.
Is this going to do well? by maverick2484	Dec 20th, 2007 03:27:04 PM
Seriously, is the general movie-going population really clamoring for a Hellboy sequel? I was underwhelmed by the first one...some nice visuals, but he kept having the same stupid fight with that same stupid hell dog over and over again. In a summer where he's up against Indiana Jones, Batman and Iron Man, I'm not sure people are going to get all that excited about Hellboy.
Shogunsin, nice work with RON PAUL!!! by modlight	Dec 20th, 2007 03:30:14 PM
He will get the government out of our lives so that vaccuum of power can be filled by THE PRIVATE SECTOR!! WOO HOO! I'd much rather have WalMart overseeing our schools than the government.
Domi'sInnerChild... by BrooseTheScharuk	Dec 20th, 2007 03:30:36 PM
...I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought of Elric. Is that Luke Goss? Isn't he in this movie? If that's him, he just crept onto a two-entry casting wishlist I haven't thought of since the poster for Clan of the Cave Bear, which gave me visions of a vocally altered Darryl Hanna in the role of Elric. It would have been a weird enough idea to suit the character and his world, I think. And since she just gets more masculine looking with age, she would be even better for the role now. Just a random thought, triggered by the sight of that vampire/albino/Jeremy Irons looking guy, who has to be Luke Goss. He seems like Elric combined with an improvement on Tom Cruise's Lestat. Or maybe how Legolas might have looked if he'd smothered Frodo in his sleep one night and taken the ring for himself. Or not.
erichaislar by BMacSmith	Dec 20th, 2007 03:32:10 PM
given the absurd level of Del Toro asskissery on this sight: definately overrated. not his fault though. impossible standard. Pan's was pretty good though.
First one was somewhat average... by Sledge Hammer	Dec 20th, 2007 03:33:44 PM
...had a couple of nice performances though, and this looks like more of the same. Not hating, but not loving either.
I demmand a Del Toro movie of "MOUNTAINS OF MADNESS"! by Rickey Henderson	Dec 20th, 2007 03:34:42 PM
WITH CTHULHU!
also... by BMacSmith	Dec 20th, 2007 03:36:11 PM
AICN reviews treated Hellboy as though it were the second coming of Star Wars or something. completely rediculous. it was a good dumb early summer action movie.
testricals... what was that music btw by modlight	Dec 20th, 2007 03:37:52 PM
I am usually bang on with trailer music, I know I know that music, but can't place it.
OOOH, Cloverfield monster isn't gonna like the ending by cornponious	Dec 20th, 2007 03:45:31 PM
of this movie...
"that Elric movie" by godoffireinhell	Dec 20th, 2007 03:47:44 PM
Chris Weisz was developing an ELRIC trilogy and so I'll tell you where that Elric movie is... It got flushed down the toilet the moment the opening weekend numbers for THE GOLDEN COMPASS came in.
Fourth character? by Forsakyn	Dec 20th, 2007 03:48:29 PM
Btw, in that on shot where they're showing Hellboy & Friends; who's the guy wearing the hat on the left? I don't read the comics, and I'm guessing he's probably in them. Just curious.
Oh crap by Pipple	Dec 20th, 2007 04:01:08 PM
Indeed hellboy. Do better next time Del toro. I know the movie will kick the first one's ass since that shithead Agent Myers is gone though.
1:85 vs 2:35 by Halfbreedqueen	Dec 20th, 2007 04:01:49 PM
eh depends on the movie. the hellboy ones are better in 1:85. just like jurassic park. but blade runner to lord of the rings, all better at 2:35. nerd talk over.
Nah, I don't think so, but maybe. by modlight	Dec 20th, 2007 04:01:49 PM
It sounds like a Rob Dougan, but I can't believe anyone would still use his stuff after the Wachowskis.
Hellboy is a CRAB! by Stuntcock Mike	Dec 20th, 2007 04:02:13 PM
Whale sized.
Who is that 4th guy? by professor murder	Dec 20th, 2007 04:02:42 PM
When it shows Abe, Hellboy, and his woman standing side by side, who is that 4th guy on the left?
the music by Halfbreedqueen	Dec 20th, 2007 04:03:18 PM
is from a Rammstein song, Mein Herz Brennt. dunno if Rammstein took that from something else, but that's what I know it from.
Del Toro's style is unmistakable. by heyscot	Dec 20th, 2007 04:03:23 PM
His visual style and sense of composition and dramatic tastes are his calling card, in the best way possible. I can't wait to see this movie. Hope we get much more Blair in this one than the last.
Oops by professor murder	Dec 20th, 2007 04:05:24 PM
Looks like Forsakyn beat me to the question.
Professor Murder by templar	Dec 20th, 2007 04:08:44 PM
The fourth guy is Johann Kraus
Clearly Pan's Labyrinth turned Toro into something phenomenal. by AdrianVeidt	Dec 20th, 2007 04:09:21 PM
The first half of this trailer could easily be seen as directly inspired by the vision and feel of Pan's Labyrinth - this is going to be a much, much greater movie than the first one.
Rob... Rob! Rob. Rob! Rob!!! Rob... It's Hellboy, It's Huge! by AdrianVeidt	Dec 20th, 2007 04:10:30 PM
Just a thought.
4th Guy by Mick85	Dec 20th, 2007 04:10:47 PM
The 4th guy is Johann Kraus. He was a medium who lost his body. So, he's like a ghost in a suit. Say what you will about the first movie, but I loved it. The comics are even better, and this film looks like it's even more in line with Mignola's world. All things considered, I'd rather see a new story than the Joker reinterpretated for hundredeth time.
HB Makeup change? by plastroncafe	Dec 20th, 2007 04:11:30 PM
Did anyone else notice that they've changed HB's facial prosthetics? From the few lines of dialog we get from him it sounds like he's lost use of his top top lip.
RAMMSTEIN!!!! by modlight	Dec 20th, 2007 04:14:02 PM
OF course... man I frickin love Rammstein, like a German real life Dethklok.
The comics are excellent by templar	Dec 20th, 2007 04:14:09 PM

Johann Kraus by professor murder	Dec 20th, 2007 04:15:30 PM
Thanks guys. I'm not on top of my Hellboy stuff but I did like the first movie. Kraus seems like a great swap of Agent Myers though. He was trying to cockblock big Red anyways. Fair trade, right??? Get a ghost, lose a goob. I'm just thinking that if they get more team members, they're more likely to kill one off this time.
Hellboy by templar	Dec 20th, 2007 04:15:43 PM
I wonder if we'll get to see the frog men??
modlight by Quin the Eskimo	Dec 20th, 2007 04:16:52 PM
WOuldn't that be a latteral move?
Where's Roger by templar	Dec 20th, 2007 04:17:49 PM

HELL, NAW... by partnerrumble@gmail.com	Dec 20th, 2007 04:18:26 PM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=B03dqx xx1Q0
if you are reffereing to the Ron Paul... No by modlight	Dec 20th, 2007 04:22:09 PM
it would be going rapidly downhill. I was being sarcastic, just so everyone knows.
Remind me by templar	Dec 20th, 2007 04:25:50 PM
When was the last time so many blockbusters came out in one year?
Different link(non youtube) by professor murder	Dec 20th, 2007 04:29:03 PM
I found a link to it here also, for those who have myspaced blocked and stuff: http://www.movienewz.com/films .php?id=hellboy2
See You Next Wednesday by chuffsterUK	Dec 20th, 2007 04:29:40 PM
Was on te cinema billboard in the first scene-Landis is back ;P
This is how you do it by WolfmanNards	Dec 20th, 2007 04:30:13 PM
This is how you rock the balls off of my chest!
Sort of look like the WRAITH from STARGATE by YotzVonFrelnik	Dec 20th, 2007 04:33:10 PM
Not that that's a bad thing... but it's odd in a cool sort of way. Same white skin, same hair, same posturing. But there's probably more than just that. Neat.
Yes by professor murder	Dec 20th, 2007 04:35:36 PM
I was thinking the same thing on initial peeps. That dude was a wraith. Where's Colonel Sheppard!!!?
They Made This Movie for Me by kevinwillis.net	Dec 20th, 2007 04:36:24 PM
Cuz I wanted it, and I'll go see it. I really enjoyed the first one.
Really looking forward to this, but I'm not sure... by rbatty024	Dec 20th, 2007 04:41:41 PM
this will win over the non-converts. It does show us some great designs. This is a nice action packed follow up to the thoughtful meditation on mythology that was Pan's Labyrinth. That was a truly wonderful film.
Blade by Acquanetta	Dec 20th, 2007 04:42:42 PM
Damn. I still wish Del Toro could've gotten to make Blade 3 in between the Hellboy films.
Depends on the Director by THE KNIGHT	Dec 20th, 2007 04:43:57 PM
Some directors really know how to use the 2:35:1 frame... Like Mr. Scorsese...
DID SOMEBODY SAY CTHULHU? by Mr. Nice Gaius	Dec 20th, 2007 04:44:03 PM
Awww yeah!!! Step aside Rickey Henderson and let the man go through - let the man go through! C, c, c, c T, t, t, t H, h, h, h U, u, u, u L, l, l, l H, h, h, h U, u, u, u CTHULHU!!! We can dance like Cthulhu We can answer to his call Watch him kick Lady Liberty's head down the road like a soccer ball Say, we can dance like Cthulhu Live it up while the livin's good Cause once he awakens, the world starts shakin' and there goes the neighborhood Say, we can dance, we can dance Great Old Ones are in control We can dance, we can dance Hear them callin' the call We can dance, we can dance Terror makes you go in a trance We can dance, we can dance Everybody's shitting their p-a-a-nts The Cthulhu Dance The Cthulhu Dance The Cthulhu Dance YEAH! It's the CTHULHU DANCE!!!
Soylent Mean is people!!! by professor murder	Dec 20th, 2007 04:45:05 PM
Preach on!!!
X-Men? by darkkelt	Dec 20th, 2007 04:47:33 PM
when the hell did the hellboy guys become the x-men , whats with the matching belts
Re-lyricized, funny man by professor murder	Dec 20th, 2007 04:48:37 PM
We can dance like Cthulu will now be permanently burned into my mind whenever I hear 'you can dance if you want to, you can leave your friends behind....bla bla etc'.
Rock on MNG, Rock on! by Pound Sand	Dec 20th, 2007 04:49:06 PM
salutes with fist
Release Date? by bumpin_kickers_02	Dec 20th, 2007 04:49:15 PM
whennns the release date..how much are they spening on this movie?????
Hellboy already on Blu-Ray by ranting_dude	Dec 20th, 2007 04:50:13 PM
I got it free when I purchase my 60 GB PS3 at Fry's Electronics. Also, Casino Royale on Blu-Ray was included as well. Anyway, concerning the Director's Cut of HellBoy, just add in the deleted scenes where needed and presto! You can stop wondering now.
Hey Harry. Your brother is doing a great job with this movie by ludmir88	Dec 20th, 2007 04:51:42 PM
fuck yeah!!!
Hlellboy will have the best one liners of 2008!!!! by ludmir88	Dec 20th, 2007 05:00:13 PM
second place goes to the Joker maybe.
See You Next Wednesday by FILMFUNK	Dec 20th, 2007 05:01:30 PM
Nice nod Nice trailer too Almost TOO Del Toro but guess that's no bad thing! Love the music, loved the creatures, Love the look of this way more than Hellboy 1 which just didn't deliver 100% This looks bigger and better with monster knobs on!
Showed way too much by kirttrik	Dec 20th, 2007 05:04:03 PM

And what's with Elric of Melbuorne vs Hellboy? by kirttrik	Dec 20th, 2007 05:04:38 PM

Overall Powerfully Cool by kirttrik	Dec 20th, 2007 05:04:58 PM

Modlight by Quin the Eskimo	Dec 20th, 2007 05:06:05 PM
I was talking about Wal-Mart v The government regarding the running of the educational system.
1 liners by professor murder	Dec 20th, 2007 05:07:51 PM
Hey Ludmir, don't get ahead of yourself. We still have Rambo coming up. You know Rambo can't resist one liners. HA!
Strangely underwhelming by greyspecter	Dec 20th, 2007 05:10:50 PM
The script is always a key for comic movies. The first one was tight and smacked of realism. From the little I gathered of the second, not as good. Hope I'm wrong.
Why Didn't this Trailer Show What the Monster Looked Like? by YakMalla	Dec 20th, 2007 05:11:06 PM
And I found Quint's comments juvenile and offensive and not funny. And I don't even think he's seen the movie. And the camera was too shaky. And anybody who disagrees with me is an idiot who just doesn't get it. And I want my sippy cup.
SoylentMean by Bob X	Dec 20th, 2007 05:11:32 PM
Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but just in case you're not, the director's cut of the first Hellboy IS out on Blu-Ray (looks and sounds damn fine, too).
Thank you Guillermo Del Toro... by Frankenbastard	Dec 20th, 2007 05:18:54 PM
Looks as fantastic as the first one! What a concept, the characters once again actually look the way they do in the comics and still function in a “reality” (over used word to describe a comic book movie) based world. Pay attention Nolan, your Joker is lame and your Batman is wearing action figure armor. Del Toro, you rock thanks for delivering again and for not treating comic book readers as suckers.
Soylent Mean... by greyspecter	Dec 20th, 2007 05:19:56 PM
Fry's is a Huge electronics store in the eastern Midwest (see: Indiana). Like a Walmart-sized Radio Shack or Circuit City.
Another giant crappy CGI squid like monster? by lex romero	Dec 20th, 2007 05:22:14 PM
What a terrible way to end the trailer. We had one in the lasst film, no need for another. The rest of it looked good though.
This year's Little Miss Hellboy 2 pwns your sexy tomboy beanpole by greyspecter	Dec 20th, 2007 05:23:46 PM

2008 is going to be a monumental geek-out! by KillaKane	Dec 20th, 2007 05:23:52 PM
Stacking up a raft of great movies, it's like 1982 all over again!
The first Hellboy was shit, why will this be any better? by Atticus Finch	Dec 20th, 2007 05:24:16 PM
Why, I ask you?
ass Like Michael Bay raping George Lucas' childhood! by greyspecter	Dec 20th, 2007 05:24:32 PM

Um, that's what you guys said last time. by WickedMonster	Dec 20th, 2007 05:31:27 PM
I think I remember clearly how geeked out everyone was about SPIDER-MAN 3 and willing to give Sam Raimi free blow-jobs. Heck, some of you were geeking out for POTC 3. I'll be laughing my ass off when some of these movies will bomb like what we saw this summer.
Dread Central podcast mentioned a falling out between Del Toro & by Logo Lou	Dec 20th, 2007 05:32:03 PM
Any truth to this? I usually trust those guys. Regardless, this looks incredible.
Perlman... by Logo Lou	Dec 20th, 2007 05:33:26 PM

That looks like FUN! by Orionsangels	Dec 20th, 2007 05:34:46 PM
I like it!
Looks good! by kafka07	Dec 20th, 2007 05:35:51 PM
kind of enchanting like Pan's Labyrinth, and yet very badass...like....well, like Hellboy. :)
Talking 'bout tenacle movies, when's the tenacle SEX movie comin by kirttrik	Dec 20th, 2007 05:37:40 PM
Legend of the OverFeind needs to be made live action. That will definitely freak the kidlings out who are psyched about Cloverfield. Possibly change the cinematic landscape of america.
THE BAD GUY'S A BLOODELF!@ by drJames	Dec 20th, 2007 05:37:44 PM
It's true, I have no life...
Agreed SoylentMean by Orionsangels	Dec 20th, 2007 05:38:07 PM
Hellboy was an awesome film. Anyone attacking it is a bitter ass prick. You can't make a Hellboy movie into live action any cooler than these films have, who can complain? They're as faithful as you can get to the comic.
1st half of the trailers amazing, 2nd half meh by kirttrik	Dec 20th, 2007 05:40:05 PM
I wonder if he's gonna end up with the hobbit in his lap though...hobbit in the lap.
Lame voice-over but I liked the "Aw, crap." at the end by godoffireinhell	Dec 20th, 2007 05:41:29 PM
All in all it seems like they still have no fucking clue how to market this.
Marketing by professor murder	Dec 20th, 2007 05:42:35 PM
Mcdonalds!!! HA! uuhh no? OK, sorry.
HELLBOY was a disappointing film by godoffireinhell	Dec 20th, 2007 05:45:43 PM
It certainly had its share of cool scenes but repetitive monster fights (Sameal ad nauseam), origin story shenanigans and fucking Agent Myers ensured that it never rose above mediocrity. Let's hope they got a better and more interesting story this time and will keep the monsters nice and varied.
HD Trailer on youtube! by Gluecifer	Dec 20th, 2007 05:48:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =6aAGQ7oh8Ms
Just like the dumbass bitches who hate Blade 2 by quantize	Dec 20th, 2007 05:53:28 PM
....no fucking taste whatsoever..if Del Toro isn't one of the best out there and hasn't delivered with previous efforts - then whatever you think has is sure to be total fucking shit.
Meh's are Mehtarded! by professor murder	Dec 20th, 2007 05:57:00 PM
Yeah, don't just write 'Meh' and that's all. If you're gonna freaking 'meh', back it up with your reasoning why, and all of the people who know the subject at hand will politely school you in why it is not meh. If you think it's 'Meh', then you probably want to go talk about another movie, right? Then go already.
Looks cool. by TattooedBillionaire	Dec 20th, 2007 05:58:27 PM
I liked the first movie, so i'm interested. Plus, Pan's Labyrinth was flat-out amazing.
'Meh' is the new 'I am a fuckwit, pls kick me' by quantize	Dec 20th, 2007 06:03:44 PM
...
Del Toro's best movie? by professor murder	Dec 20th, 2007 06:04:13 PM
People earlier were talking about GDT's movie The Devils Backbone. I've never seen it and most are saying it's his best. I pretty much have liked every movie he's put out in the last decade on. Definitely gotta check it out now.
More of the same... by aversiontherapy2	Dec 20th, 2007 06:14:13 PM
And there ain't nothing wrong with that.
noiretblanc, Del Toro naysayers... by Archive	Dec 20th, 2007 06:21:56 PM
Um... Yes, I agree that Pan's Labyrinth was troubled, largely because it looked at the Marco years of Spanish fascism through a very foreign lens, but you forget one thing... THE MONSTERS! Pan's Labyrinth is a good movie with men-in-suit, that uses the latex to actually heighten the storytelling. Of all the directors to use monster make-up, has anyone ever used it to such dramatic or seamless effect? THAT'S why people love Del Toro - it's the MAN-IN-SUIT love!
I agree by kilik777	Dec 20th, 2007 06:24:18 PM
Devils Backbone is probably overall his best but Hellboy is highly fucking underrated. One of the few super hero movies that has a high rewatchability factor. http://tinyurl.com/pv8do
Opinion's on meh is meh by kirttrik	Dec 20th, 2007 06:49:10 PM

Is Hellboy fighting goth Tron 2.0 villians during... by kirttrik	Dec 20th, 2007 06:50:31 PM
...the middle third of the preview?
Blood Elves.....................meh. by kirttrik	Dec 20th, 2007 06:52:17 PM

Weird eye sprinkled toothfaery...................... . by kirttrik	Dec 20th, 2007 06:53:13 PM
.................meh.
professor murder by YakMalla	Dec 20th, 2007 06:53:39 PM
Spot-on advice. Real mehn such as yourself are brave for even mehntioning the subject.
SaborTooth Cave Troll so del Toro can d. TT.........meh by kirttrik	Dec 20th, 2007 06:54:22 PM

Cloverfield Leaf Monster....................meh.. ... by kirttrik	Dec 20th, 2007 06:55:10 PM
and........................... .............................. .............................m eh
Perlman makes a great Hellboy by red ezra	Dec 20th, 2007 06:55:32 PM
I will see it on that...
I meant TH=The Hobbit..........meh by kirttrik	Dec 20th, 2007 06:55:52 PM

Aicn talkbackers................meh-n eficent! by kirttrik	Dec 20th, 2007 06:57:21 PM

HA by professor murder	Dec 20th, 2007 07:02:18 PM
You guys. I'm gonna have nightmares of mehs now. Sorry to all if I spurned this. Because you know this word switching can last FOREVER!! Ha! Next post is gonna say something like "Cloverfield is a Meh!" I'm out.
Awesome! by Gatack2	Dec 20th, 2007 07:06:21 PM
LOVED the first movie even though in all honestly it hasn't aged very well but it was a good beginning. Now I hope they bring the goods! http://tinyurl.com/yuu862
I did not like the narration by Toddstarwatcher	Dec 20th, 2007 07:10:51 PM
The narrator stunk.
fantastic and cartoony?! by JacksonsPole	Dec 20th, 2007 07:24:51 PM
i don't know what movie you think this is. but, fantastic and cartoony is EXACTLY the world of hellboy. sometimes i really wonder about the people on this site...
some of you have got to be joking... by dr_john_zoidberg	Dec 20th, 2007 07:37:05 PM
This looks in-fucking-credible. The creature effects look like a smooth combination of the first movie with a bit of Pan's labyrinth thrown in. I'm there opening night. Badass trailer.
RAMMSTEIN!!! by munkie loco	Dec 20th, 2007 07:40:27 PM
hell yea.
del toro sucks by krycek08	Dec 20th, 2007 07:41:22 PM
sick of his boring turds
schmee by mmaddox3	Dec 20th, 2007 07:44:31 PM
nothing about the triler blew me away.
Not sure if trailer showed too much... by SkinJob69	Dec 20th, 2007 07:44:38 PM
But it showed enough for one to conclude that this is going to be mediocre, uninspired Hollywood crap. Does anyone here get anywhere near the buzz off of this trailer that they did with the one for TDK?? Three words: Direct To Video
Just as long as it's not X-Hell-Manboy 2 by ebonic_plague	Dec 20th, 2007 07:49:42 PM
...which is a long and probably not as clever as intended way to say I thought Hellboy was trying too hard to be X-Men when it should have been trying to be the Devil's Backbone. If this turns out to be more like Pan's Lab, that's good, because the whole time I was watching PL, I was thinking, "This is what Hellboy should have looked like." Hellboy is 90% atmosphere, 10% actual plot. Or something like that.
The what did you get from THIS trailer? by SkinJob69	Dec 20th, 2007 07:53:38 PM
And, please, there is nothing- nothing- mediocre about Blade Runner. Who gives a fuck if they come out with 10 versions- the least of these would be superior to Hell-fuckin-boy. Lame concept from it's inception, and now lame in celluloid form. Blade Runner= timeless art (PKD story, Ridley Scott's uncompromising vision, brilliant, prescient futurism). They'll still be talking about Blade Runner in 20 years. Hell Boy? Not so much.
BOX OF KITTENS by occula	Dec 20th, 2007 07:55:23 PM
the voice-over is john hurt. remember? father? obviously NOT hellboy fans!
it's a hard line to walk... by occula	Dec 20th, 2007 07:59:14 PM
the whole design element. you hit on something good, then, if you use it again, you're either lauded for having a style or derided for repeating yourself. i think del toro does a nice job of interpreting mignola's beautiful work, but, again, if he deviated, everybody would be yelling that he didn't stick to his guns. or something like that.
Okay, the next asshole who carps about aspect ratios gets bitchs by Lobanhaki	Dec 20th, 2007 08:08:07 PM
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE RIGHT ASPECT RATIO. It all depends on the intent and the style of the filmmakers. What is true, and should be considered is that different screen widths can have different effects on how a film looks, and how the compositions are arranged and perceived. That said, there are masterpieces in all kinds of aspect ratios. Practically anything before 1950 is 1.33:1. That's why we got the screens on TV we got. Then they went widescreen, to try and top television, which was eating into their market. That meant 70mm productions, that meant Anamorphic, that meant matted widescreen. Long story short, they found ways to broaden the screen past what the boob-tube could do. So what does this come down to? It depends. Widescreen does good landscape, epic action, that sort of thing. But if you want more intimate close ups, 1.85:1 is good. However, these aren't hard and fast rules. They're tendencies. There are great action movies and fantasies in 1.85:1, and there are brilliant movies of the same kind in 2.35:1. The creativity of the storyteller is what matters, more than the width of the screen.
I'M THERE! by Wonderboys	Dec 20th, 2007 08:10:27 PM
way to go, Guillermo!
And when the BEST line in a trailer is "Aww Crap"... by SkinJob69	Dec 20th, 2007 08:12:22 PM
your box office might be in trouble. That there's some good writin'!! Mighty good!
I'm Guillermo Del Toro... by SkinJob69	Dec 20th, 2007 08:15:43 PM
And I approve of this preview!! Why the intro- just run the fuckin trailer.
Also, the voice-over is not John Hurt... by SkinJob69	Dec 20th, 2007 08:20:28 PM
He has more scruples than to associate himself with this level of film. And, lastly, the only good part of the soundtrack occurs 1/4 of the way in- a 2 part orchestral swell (after the line "It's not your imagination"): completely derivative (read: stolen) from the Batman Begins score.
Lobanhaki by YakMalla	Dec 20th, 2007 08:22:55 PM
I have a widescreen monitor and your post only filled in 75% of the width. Therefore, your post sucks.
Blade Runner is mediocre by Orionsangels	Dec 20th, 2007 08:28:39 PM
I appreciate it's artistry. I respect it as an influential film. It has some amazing visuals to this day, but I dare anyone here to sit through Blade Runner and not got bored. If you say you don't get bored. You're lying.
I honestly don't get bored...after many, many viewings by SkinJob69	Dec 20th, 2007 08:31:45 PM
People don't get bored of the Mona Lisa, do they? Ridley may not be Leonardo, but he may be the equivalent in the world of film. Just my opinion. Feel free to call me crazy :o
More Ron Perlman badass-ery by zooch	Dec 20th, 2007 08:47:04 PM
Count me in.
"THERE IS A WELD AROUND US" by MattmanReturns	Dec 20th, 2007 08:51:31 PM
Wtf is a "weld"?
Hellboy vs. Blade by zooch	Dec 20th, 2007 08:56:23 PM
they should make that.
John landis by brassai2003	Dec 20th, 2007 09:01:44 PM
anyone else catch the "see you next wednesday" ref on the marquee at the beginning? Nod to American Werewolf in London?
You know there's this here article on scifi's web site by mukhtabi	Dec 20th, 2007 09:07:07 PM
Detailing that though Del Toro wants to do the film no one has offered him the cash he needs to do it. FANDOM and Fellow geeks! I think we need to find out how much Mountains of Madness would cost and raise those funds ourselves. I'm sure if everyone who gave a damn contributed 20 dollars to a film fund for that it may yet happen. As to the article, click here: http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire /index.php?category=3&id=46614
Angel of Death = Fucking Win by spaceworlder	Dec 20th, 2007 09:07:40 PM
Movie looks awesome.
Trailer sets high expectations by Vigilant	Dec 20th, 2007 09:39:45 PM
Comic booky enough to let that great Ron Turneresque monster at the end to be cool and campy at the same time.
Imagine Indy in 1:85:1 by THE KNIGHT	Dec 20th, 2007 09:45:35 PM
yuck... that is all....
Skinjob by MetiphisLabs	Dec 20th, 2007 09:49:23 PM
John Hurt was in the first movie, retard. That probably is his voice.
Calling something "overrated" doesn? by Flipao	Dec 20th, 2007 09:52:29 PM

Oh, come on now by Eddie_E_CCCP	Dec 20th, 2007 09:52:45 PM
Anyone who claims they didnt like the first Hellboy is a fuggin' terrorist.
't make you seem smarter by Flipao	Dec 20th, 2007 09:54:46 PM
seriously, Pan's Labyrinth was not only liked by critics, most filmmakers came out and called it the best film of last year. They're right, you're wrong, get a clue.
DUMBASS ORIONS ANGELS by vershandluster	Dec 20th, 2007 09:54:49 PM
Since when is being bored a valid aesthetic critique? Are you too big of a dumbass to be aware of things like Joyce's Ulysses in which certain sections are intentionally designed to bore you? Go and play your fucking guitar hero.
A real man knows the best aspect ratio is 1.66:1 by Nate Champion	Dec 20th, 2007 09:59:55 PM
However, only a pussy refuses to use scope when needed. Even Spike learned his lesson. Anyway, I walked out of the first Hellboy after about 40 mins and I sure as hell ain't seeing this one!
Hellboy = Pure Cinematic Fun, by wilsonfisk89	Dec 20th, 2007 10:03:04 PM
directed by a brilliant autuer..get into it
I liked it ... and I didn't. by Ringwearer9	Dec 20th, 2007 10:03:27 PM
What I liked were the cool sword fights. What I didn't like were the lines by the main characters. They seem to be maintaining consistency with the last film and presenting their characters as deadpan, dead-eyed inflectionless morons. Can Selma Blair express her inner pain in some way more interesting than staring like a zombie? Did they insist that Ron Perlman do all his voice work encased in that rubber head, so it was impossible for him to enunciate properly? The central characters need to be identifiable with. They need to show human emotions. I'm not seeing that here.
See? by Eddie_E_CCCP	Dec 20th, 2007 10:04:43 PM
Terrorist, I tell ya.
Ringwearer9... by Eddie_E_CCCP	Dec 20th, 2007 10:06:33 PM
To be entirely fair, I agree with you on the issue of Selma Blair. It's really bad when the guy in the fish suit seems more emotive than you.
FUCK... HELLBOY... 1... by Pipple	Dec 20th, 2007 10:09:24 PM
It's like Spawn. It's like they took spawn and put hellboy's name on it and thought, hey, this will fucking sell.
Well, Pipple by Eddie_E_CCCP	Dec 20th, 2007 10:13:23 PM
That's just silly to say. One, it did; Hellboy made a killing on DVD. Further, Hellboy is on almost every level better than Spawn...I mean, jesus christ, man. From effects to acting to story. Are you really comparing Ron Perlman to Michael Jai White?
Pan's Labyrinth still sucks by arrangedletters	Dec 20th, 2007 10:38:06 PM
This looks fun though.
If that crested demon... by GigerGecko	Dec 20th, 2007 11:13:09 PM
...doesn't just scream Wayne Douglas Barlowe, then I don't know what does. Glad to see it.
Gotta agree with Eddie_E_CCCP... by br1947	Dec 20th, 2007 11:18:12 PM
Comparing Hellboy and Spawn? Did I miss a good Spawn movie that came out? Because the one I saw really, really sucked. I would however like to see the Hellboy crew take on a Spawn remake... that could be alot of fun!
What's with this crappy MySpace trailer bullshit? by slicer	Dec 20th, 2007 11:18:51 PM
Bring this on in GLORIOUS QUICKTIME!!! I'm tired of watching these trailers in tiny frames with blocky stuttering images. Quicktime Quicktime Quicktime!!!! Why use anything else!?!?!?
SO THIS IS WHERE WIRE-FU WENT by BringingSexyBack	Dec 20th, 2007 11:26:19 PM
to a Hellboy movie. Must say, Selma Blair is looking mighty fine. Might-T fine.
FIRST WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWW by pauduro	Dec 20th, 2007 11:26:23 PM
i hope its more bloody than the first VIVA MEXICO CABRONES
Why bother? But I'll explain by Pipple	Dec 20th, 2007 11:29:04 PM
Both fucking movies are mediocre shit with poor cgi fx but good make-up on the main characters. Both tamed versions of much more adult films and both have shitty little kids in them. What else do you want to know about my accurate comparison?
GUILLERMO DEL TORO RAPED MY CHILDHOOD!!!!!! by BringingSexyBack	Dec 20th, 2007 11:29:58 PM
Okay he didn't, but it had to be said.
The funny thing about this... by 'Cholera's Ghost	Dec 20th, 2007 11:31:28 PM
is that may Wu-Tang cd started up just as I started playing this trailer, with multiple uses of the N word, and I was like WTF? Interesting choice of musical score.
IT'S A STAR TREK CROSSOVER!!!! by BringingSexyBack	Dec 20th, 2007 11:31:34 PM
Did you catch the Romulan in the background at 1:41?
HE SHOULD MAKE.... by stephen brown	Dec 20th, 2007 11:43:36 PM
BLADE 4 I THINK THE BLADE SERIES ABSOLUTLY ROCKED. HELLBOY WAS GOOD. IBETTER THAN ALOT OF COMIC BOOK FILMS BUT HOPEFULLY HELLBOY 2 ROCKS OUT WITH ITS COCK OUT
also by stephen brown	Dec 20th, 2007 11:48:57 PM
why is it that most films lose originality. bring back films like Matrix, Shawshank redemption, Pulp Fiction films that are original and entertaining the films for release in 2008 are indy4 hulk2 hellboy2. it seems sequels are the new music - sounds the same now as it did 8 years ago. i mean 2007 was what - pirates Shrek Spiderman Die hard and potter sequals and most blew hollywood writers on strike - GOOD i say- harry should write scripts - hed kick ass
Bottle nose scene in Pan's Labyrinth... by Librerarian	Dec 21st, 2007 12:00:32 AM
...one of the more disturbing, nastier things I've seen in quite some time. I really liked the movie overall, but I still haven't gotten that one icky moment out of my head. Yuck. A lot of genius and craftsmanship went into Hellboy, but it ultimately was one single hair too much of a comic book movie. All of Del Toro's efforts (art house and commercial) are worth watching though.
Looks Great!!! by Backstage Larry	Dec 21st, 2007 12:09:09 AM
Hellboy 2 looks pretty fucking good at this point... hell the whole summer looks fucking good next year!
Memories Of Murder... by Tourist	Dec 21st, 2007 12:25:38 AM
...Thinking back to that year, I loved Children Of Men, United 93, The Queen, Half Nelson, and probally a whole host of others I can't remember. While I didn't mind Devils Backbone, but certainly wasn't that engaged by it, I really didn't like Pan's. It seemed so cookie cutter to me. I know that sounds strange, but the strict, tight laced step father villain, the kindly, but poor maid who of course had to have a brother/father/lover/whatever in the resistance...I don't know, felt really stale and uninspired. Even on a production level, it looked like plastic. Which is why I don't get Del Toro at all. Hey, maybe I just don't gel with spain, since I can't stand Almodovar either.
Did the first one make money? by I Hope You Die	Dec 21st, 2007 12:26:03 AM
I can't imagine. Enjoyed the trailer though.
Can't freaking wait by cerebulon	Dec 21st, 2007 12:35:43 AM
Awesomeness overload.
Why is word trailer used 5 times in this article? by M.C. Piss on Yo Skillz	Dec 21st, 2007 12:45:01 AM
trailer. trailer. trailer. trailer. trailer.
War. War never changes. by Sulik2	Dec 21st, 2007 01:14:20 AM
I can't hear Ron Pearlman w/o thinking of that line. We need a Fallout movie.
Sweet Chocolate Coated Pussy Juice... by That 70s Venom	Dec 21st, 2007 01:22:26 AM
... from Selma Blair's vagina.
is a hell of a trailer by pipergates	Dec 21st, 2007 01:56:14 AM
aicn
SELMA BLAIR GETS HOTTER WITH AGE by BringingSexyBack	Dec 21st, 2007 02:15:37 AM
Sexy Selma
No one responding to my meh comments...........meh. by kirttrik	Dec 21st, 2007 02:33:05 AM

................................ ..........................meh. by kirttrik	Dec 21st, 2007 02:33:31 AM

Lobanhaki, wrongo. Idiot. Moron. Ass. by Bronx Cheer	Dec 21st, 2007 03:21:18 AM
Original Academy aspect ratio is 1.37 not 1.33. 1.33 is TV. Idiot. And technically, anamorphic is actually 2.40 not 2.35. Moron. And Hellboy was a cool film.
by Shinobi666	Dec 21st, 2007 03:25:54 AM
Hated the end of Hell Boy 1 too much shoddy cgi del torro is a genius though and have high hopes perlman rocks my feeble world
2008 will be the best film year ever by Kragmose	Dec 21st, 2007 03:43:05 AM
For thar be no Transformers to ruin it.
Del Toro has quite the imagination by DannyOcean01	Dec 21st, 2007 05:01:08 AM
But my god does all that look fake. Imo, don't release a trailer until you've got the effects finished. That last monster sequence screams halfbaked work, and backlot. Angel of Death looks awesome, Elric Goss looks great, and love that first line delivery- great spear/sword weapon too. WTF was up with that horribly awkward team line-up shot. Johann looks cack in that cheap diving containment suit. Is it just me or is anyone else sick of that puce, bogey green filter Del Toro used in pretty much all his movies?? How about some blue/black/red like in the comics???? It's not damn chiarascuro enough, and I'm amazed Mignola doesn't slap him for it.
Oh, and fuck you... by DannyOcean01	Dec 21st, 2007 05:11:57 AM
If you think Blade 2 was anywhere close to being better than the original. That opening fight sequence wipes the floor with everything in Del Toro's effort. Like I said, he's got an immense imagination, but the dude needs to tie it to a decent plot, rather than shoehorning designs and character in just because they look good or make nice bangy noises.
See You Next Wednesday by Dr Uwe Boll	Dec 21st, 2007 05:48:40 AM
Nice tip o the hat there (thanks FilmFunk for pointing it out). Not a great trailer but it's Del Toro and I expect there'll be a couple of Trailer Revisions with more plotty type stuff/action/better music. All in all, not looking too bad. Selma Blair (never liked her) does look quite the hottie in this.
John Hurt? by Bouncy X	Dec 21st, 2007 06:10:08 AM
so i noticed his name in the cast listing for this and now he's doing the voice over. since he died in the first, will this be some flasback or dream sequence sorta thing cuz if not, it'll be hard to believe he survived a blade through the skull. lol
Great John Landis homage by CuervoJones	Dec 21st, 2007 06:50:51 AM
Gotta love Guillermo.
HELLBOY SHOULD BE CGI! by 1st and only	Dec 21st, 2007 07:03:24 AM
Ron pearlman sucks as hellboy.if you know the comic he just doesnt catch hellboys personality...he just repeats hellboys one liners over and over,and abe sapian looks ridiculous!The 1st movie was awful!remember the pointless and awkward love triangle between hellboy,liz and that crappy fbi type guy?! worse thing was that mike mignola had a hands on role with that movie..and it was still awful!Del toro rocks but this sequel looks as bad as the 1st!Booo!
Dudes- it's not John Hurt's voice in the trailer- by SkinJob69	Dec 21st, 2007 07:05:18 AM
It's Generic-Hollywood-trailer-voic eover-guy #4. Hurt sounds older, and has a slight British accent.
That "angel"... by CuervoJones	Dec 21st, 2007 07:07:23 AM
...must be the coolest monster ever.
Hellboy screwed your mother !!! by Faust_8	Dec 21st, 2007 07:21:58 AM
Look damn good, I can't wait
no way, I like Ron Pearlman as Hellboy by just pillow talk	Dec 21st, 2007 07:42:37 AM

Me as ANCHORITE: Hellboy's costume is teh gay. by Teh Suk	Dec 21st, 2007 07:49:58 AM
Whack whack whack whack whack
Wait a minute... by JimmyJingles	Dec 21st, 2007 07:59:40 AM
Isn't that one monster/demon dude with the fucked up head the same monster/demon dude from Pan's Labyrinth?
No, JimmyJingles by Rickey Henderson	Dec 21st, 2007 08:07:43 AM
no it isnt. but thanks for playing.
Selma Blair... by Kid Z	Dec 21st, 2007 08:29:53 AM
...DAA-AAMN! (I love chicks who look like they'll slap you, kick you in the nuts, knock you to the ground, give you another swift kick to the ribs, then spit on you and walk away!)
Kid Z by Dr Uwe Boll	Dec 21st, 2007 08:34:12 AM
"chicks who look like they'll slap you, kick you in the nuts, knock you to the ground, give you another swift kick to the ribs, then spit on you and walk away!" This sounds like a synopsis for a japanese porno!
Selma Blair starring in Japanese porno... by Kid Z	Dec 21st, 2007 08:38:34 AM
...that would be wild!
Persepolisfield... by Kid Z	Dec 21st, 2007 08:43:11 AM
...is a 500-foot tall Ayatollah Khomeini who sheds scales that turn into smaller, but equally evil Khomeinis!
Hellboy isn't that interesting to me... by That 70s Venom	Dec 21st, 2007 08:48:12 AM
... which is really weird because normally I eat most comic book-related shit right up, but I'm more of a Spider-Man and Batman fanatic. Hellboy is one of those superheros where I look at him and I'm like "You know... he has super strength and I guess he's kinda cool and everything, but I really wouldn't want to be him."
Yay. by Lucasblows	Dec 21st, 2007 08:51:50 AM
More giant tentacle monsters. Hellboy is crap.
I'm really interested in how they're going to present. by rbatty024	Dec 21st, 2007 09:39:04 AM
Johann. The character designs look like the tits, but that's a given when you're talking about DeToro. I'm also pleased with the lack of CGI. Looks like a lot of practical effects. I loved the original, mostly thanks to the characters, which is what really justifies a sequel in my opinion.
Will there be a Jazz Hands monster in this? by Han Cholo	Dec 21st, 2007 10:01:45 AM
Gotta have the Jazz Hands, yeah!!!
HAI DIZZIZ GERMUDUTOROW AN DISSIS DA TRAYLUROK? OK. by ArcadianDS	Dec 21st, 2007 10:01:51 AM
accents are funny. he talk funny. funny man sound funny when talking.
Del Toro puts me to sleep. by Saluki	Dec 21st, 2007 10:07:36 AM
Which is mucho disappointing, since so many others really dig his work. He makes colorful movies, to be sure, but it all feels like buildup with awkward payoff.
some real vitriol here by occula	Dec 21st, 2007 10:08:43 AM
i think del toro did exquisite work with pan's labyrinth and most storytellers should be so lucky to hit the nail on the head like that. i also think he's still got some development ahead of him and if he ever gets to 'mountains of madness' i bet it could be the masterwork of a fully-fledged director. he's got his team, he's got his style, he could finally fuse the greater subtlety of his spanish-language films with the more typically-done english-language films. and now i have completely overanalyzed the situation and will only now say that it is frakking john hurt in the trailer, i just listened to it again, he's listed as cast in the movie and i'd know that voice anywhere.
JimmyJingles by Saluki	Dec 21st, 2007 10:13:19 AM
No, it's just a retread. Good call, all the same.
Maybe too much praise? by Saluki	Dec 21st, 2007 10:17:58 AM
occula, I actually just think there is loads and loads of praise here in the talkback, but not with a lot of supporting reasons. I think we need people like Del Toro & Jackson in the industry, but at the same time think they need to mature even more in their delivery. Cookie-cutter was a description I read above, and it describes both of them for the majority of their work. The difference is, they are both very good at keeping the production design colorful and true to source, unlike most other cookie-cutter directors. Maybe maybe maybe.
good point by occula	Dec 21st, 2007 10:22:30 AM
yeah i hear you. i think a superhero movie is always a tough nut to crack; what if del toro hadn't done blade and hellboy? (OK blade isn't a superhero but you know what i mean) what if after 'mimic' he'd just done spanish films and become this auteur? everybody would kiss his ass, right? but he is actually sort of a cross-genre director, which is tricky. as a designer i know how hard it is to apply your own sensibilities to different types of work, based on people's expectations rather than your own desires. i do think del toro has it in him to be - as they call him in the trailer - 'visionary.'
The "Look" looks better than the first one. by fyrie	Dec 21st, 2007 10:29:36 AM
Am I the only one who thought many of the sets/costumes in the original were horrible? A lot of the bad guys looked like Mortal Combat or Street Fighter rejects. The ensemble of heroes saved it though.
RON PERLMAN IS DUKE NUKEM by Zeke25:17	Dec 21st, 2007 11:13:25 AM
Take away the red makeup and horns, and you know it to be true.
Del Toro, please take my wallet and help by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Dec 21st, 2007 11:56:43 AM
yourself to whatever is there. I'll be there next summer for sure. Okay,since I don't read the comics,when we see Hellboy,Blue, and Blair, who is the fourth dude with them?
Grammaton, that's Johann. by rbatty024	Dec 21st, 2007 12:06:12 PM
If you don't mind a spoiler here's his story. He used to be a medium for spirits and his spirit would leave his body while others used it to commune. However, one time when he left his body a bomb or something hit (I forget exactly why) destroying his physical being but since his spirit was gone he was, in a sense, still alive. He's kind of made up of ectoplasm and stuff and wears the suit to keep shape. It's a pretty cool idea for a character if you ask me.
TOO MUCH SWORD TWIRLING by Shigeru	Dec 21st, 2007 12:34:27 PM
ENOUGH WITH THE FUCKING SWORD TWIRLING SET TO BUTT-ROCK NU METAL! IT'S A PILE OF BALLS!
How the fuck can anyone like RAMMSTEIN? by godoffireinhell	Dec 21st, 2007 01:21:34 PM
I guess you must all be Americans who don't understand the moronic lyrics.
If it wasn't for del Toro this would be another MIB2 by kirttrik	Dec 21st, 2007 01:38:39 PM
Bounce wid me Bounce wid me!
I thought the only lyrics in a Rammstein song was... by kirttrik	Dec 21st, 2007 01:40:25 PM
...the word Rammstien repeated multiple times.
Pan's Labyrinth was a great film and I wish del Toro would by kirttrik	Dec 21st, 2007 01:46:55 PM
stick to doing films he's emotionally invested in and not these hollywood hack fests. Granted they are quality hollywood films but still very commerciallized. I understand he needs to do these movies so he can afford to make his own but still, I want more Pan's Labryinths and less Blade2es.
rbatty024, thanks for the info by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Dec 21st, 2007 01:51:49 PM
That such a screwed up concept. I love it.
weirdly enough by Vern	Dec 21st, 2007 02:32:25 PM
I've seen interviews where Del Toro claims HELLBOY is his most personal movie, that he relates strongly to Hellboy, etc. I enjoyed it the first time but it doesn't have much rewatch value for me. My least favorite of his movies, I think. That said, you are still wrong, because BLADE II is a masterpiece.
Hellboy Made $99 Million Worldwide by kevinwillis.net	Dec 21st, 2007 02:49:50 PM
Add DVD and cable sales and so on, it probably turned a profit, enough so that a sequel got greenlit.
Ron Perlman for President by kevinwillis.net	Dec 21st, 2007 02:53:29 PM
He'd be awesome!
I just dont get it by lecter1914	Dec 21st, 2007 03:13:46 PM
I mean....everytime Del Toro releases a movie, theres so much hype around it. Everyone claims its his masterwork, its the best movie ever, Del Toro really pushed the envelope etc...IIt started with Mimic. I saw it in theaters...wish I hadnt. I actually liked the first sequel to Mimic better but I digress. Then came Blade 2...it got the same type of hype and Harry's infamous review. I found it to be not bad but not a single scene in it could even rival the opening ten minutes of the original. Then saw Devil's backbone....just stared at the screen completely unmoved. Then came Hellboy...it wasnt bad..just did nothing for me. Felt like a movie I had already seen. Never got around to Cronos. I was about to avoid Pan's Labyrinth but saw it for free and was pleasantly surprised, but not enough to understand the ever present hype around the guy. Granted I didnt see Cronos, but could someone please explain to me what the big deal is? Or is it just one of those either you get it or you don't deals?
About: "scary anime addicts"... by Motoko Kusanagi	Dec 21st, 2007 03:30:41 PM
Addicted? yes. Scary? I hope not. :-)
Pic of the team by professor murder	Dec 21st, 2007 03:58:06 PM
Can see the stupid matching belts. But a good shot of 'ghostman' Krauss. He sure doesn't look like he can move to quick in that outfit. http://media.movies.ign.com/me dia/041/041373/img_5153455.htm l
As far as how Much Hellboy made... by Eddie_E_CCCP	Dec 21st, 2007 04:46:40 PM
It pulled a neat 99 Mill worldwide, in addition to another 60 or so in DVD sales. For a film with a budget of roughly 66 million, that's a decent enough profit for a studio to make the decision to greenlight a sequel.
Also... by Eddie_E_CCCP	Dec 21st, 2007 04:50:36 PM
..I consider a budget of 66 mill to be very lacking, because Mignola writes a large ammount of world-spanning, creature-filled, rich stories. In the current world of HUGE budget films ( I am legend cost 150 mill to make ), A sstory as huge as Hellboy needed something larger to be as good as it wanted to be. Of course, on the other hand, getting a third-string studio to even budget an almost unknown comic book character film, even in the current 'comic book movie boom' market, is a miracle on it's own
Trouble with Hellboy as a character ... by Ringwearer9	Dec 21st, 2007 05:21:33 PM
He's got no wonder. He takes everything in stride, punches it, or pulls out his gun and blows holes in it. That's funny maybe once or twice, but the joke gets old pretty quick. And if you pair him up with sidekicks that react even less than he does... you don't have anyone to identify with in the movie. Unless you root for the monsters. Again, I shudder at Selma Blair's dead face in this ... she's acting exactly the same as in the last flick. That agent with the flashlight in the trailer doesn't help either. What is he? He's got cracking walls, and skittering wierdness, and he doesn't seem to react until he's attacked? There's too much deadpan Coolness in this movie, just like the last one.
And as for the look of the movie ... by Ringwearer9	Dec 21st, 2007 05:32:53 PM
In spite of the fact that I like the creature designs, and the action (and I actually like the tentacled Beasty vs. Hellboy scene) the overall look of the filmed image is .... soft. The colors seem to be dominated by Red/yellow and Blue (with a bit of occasional Green). And none of the colors are vivid, or stand out. They are all muted, shadowed. This means that, no matter how cool the action scenes may be, the look kinda washes out details. I find it hard on the eyes. Dark muted colored charactes fighting against dark muted backgrounds. Muted Bluisness and Muted Reddish/Yellowishness. We are still in the CGI-friendly Dark Ages, folks.
Hellboy's appeal lies in its joyful quirkiness by Clancy Van Lustbader	Dec 21st, 2007 05:36:09 PM
People complained that the first movie wasn't as sock 'em dead as a lot of action films but, really, that's what Hellboy is. It's an odd, quirky (that word again), tongue-in-cheek take on superheroes, action-adventure, pulp stories and the occult. It's never really been about the payoff, more about seeing how wacky and loopy you can get with the whole brew from a stylistic and thematic standpoint. Well, specifically it's Mignola coming up with a bunch of stuff he thinks is cool (which I largely happen to concur with) and then just having fun with it. There's a distinct charm to the whole concept but it's not for everyone. Personally I think Del Toro did a great job making the first film as enjoyable as it was considering what a dreadful bastardisation it would have been in other hands. He was working within limitations (catering to a mainstream audience, keeping suits happy etc.) and I thought he did a fine job. Personally I think this one is gonna be even better because the hard groundwork has already been done. As for Skinjob and Blade Runner, fuck it, why even go there? Hellboy isn't Blade Runner isn't Star Trek. Why even compare them? If you can't see what a fundamentally awesome idea Hellboy is then you're imaginatively impaired in my book and I feel sorry for you.
As far as the look goes by Eddie_E_CCCP	Dec 21st, 2007 05:56:54 PM
Yeah, a good deal of the colors are muted, and the movie does look dark. It's the closest you'll get to a director trying to make an exact replica of the look/colors of a comic book source, next to going the Sin City route. I'm not saying the opinion isnt valid, but the comics themselves are dark looking and washed out. I've never seen an artist use so much black ink in a color comic book.
looks like pans labyrinth 2 by BurgerKing	Dec 21st, 2007 06:50:05 PM
Until the big red guy shows up. First movie was mediocre, this one does look kind of better, but I think Del Toro's work is better when not constricted to a comic book character. The tentacle thing reminds me of Watchmen...
Thanks Zombie by lecter1914	Dec 21st, 2007 11:07:07 PM
I'm not trying to hate or anything. I mean the guy seems to have a fan base, I just never really enjoyed any of his movies and I think thats because they are all hyped up as HIS BEST MOVIE EVER. Kinda like Eli Roth's made 3 movies and the first Hostel was noted as being so much of a director's evolution and the second one was considered even more of a growth...and we all know how that turned out. Not that I would ever put Del Toro in the same category as ROth no matter hoe much his films have never really moved me. And for the record...why does everyone think Blade two was so good? If you stop to watch it and think about it...its really only 3 extended scenes. The beginning felt like one long expository introduction, the middle was just a big fight at a vamp club, and the end was just the ending fight...but they were all really really long....just had to get that off my chest.
"I find it hard on the eyes." by DocPazuzu	Dec 22nd, 2007 04:32:29 AM
Kind of like the color of fire in King Kong, which was the color of... fire, right, Ringles?
Never thought I'd ever say this... by DocPazuzu	Dec 22nd, 2007 04:37:56 AM
...but I actually agree with ringy-poo about one thing, namely how utterly heinous Selma Blair is. She's cute as hell and hot (for a self-confessed chainsmoker, anyway) but she couldn't act to save her life. For some reason geeks have given her an eternal pass despite the fact that there has never been a cinematic example of her ever letting a single emotion register in her expression. In The Fog she managed to make the wooden duo of Tom Welling and that Grace chick seem like Tim Roth and Dame Judi Dench. Stinko!
Blade 2 is not a masterpiece by DannyOcean01	Dec 22nd, 2007 05:51:00 AM
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It's not the colors themselves, Doc ... by Ringwearer9	Dec 22nd, 2007 12:29:32 PM
It's the lack of variety. But that's not really the problem ... I love properl filmed black and white .. What I mean is that the colors are insufficiently different from eachother in order to provide contrast with eachother. If all the colors are kinda dark and fuzzy it's hard to see details against one another. It's hard to tell the different colors apart. Makes the big action scenes a bit harder to follow. Now, sure, it all takes place at night, and in the dark, but plenty of movies have been made that suggest darkness while still lighting things enough to make them easy to see. EG: Raiders of the Lost Ark's night-time scenes. I don't know what would fix it... more attention to lighting effects? Maybe they are trying to avoid visual conflict between the CGI and the real characters, so they underlight everything so you don't notice that the CGI lighting effects don't look as good as the ones for the real actors. Oh well. Maybe it'll look better in the theater.
Doc, Selma Blair did the voicework for the Hellboy Animated. by Ringwearer9	Dec 22nd, 2007 12:36:03 PM
For the Hellboy Animated film "Sword of Storms". Her voicework was just as dead, but the animators managed to inject some expression into the character's face, so the whole effect came off much better.
Eddie .. Re: Adapting the look of the Comic book. by Ringwearer9	Dec 22nd, 2007 12:52:59 PM
You may be right that they are trying to replicate the coloring of the comic book, however, the comic book used heavy black outlining to define the characters and objects in it. Also, the pictures in a comic are static, so the eye can pause and figure out the details even when he's being artistic and suggesting shapes rather than outlining them. In a live action film, though, that color scheme defeats the eye somewhat. For an example of a film that adapted the look of a comic book and still managed to make it watchable, see SIN CITY. An example of "Loyal to the look" but hard to watch would be "300". With the exception of the dancing oracle scene.
The problem with the first Hellboy... by BurnHollywood	Dec 24th, 2007 03:18:09 AM
The main villain Rasputin sucked and was as dull as dishwater. Kroenen was pretty nifty, but still couldn't make up for how lame his employer was. If del Toro could have found a way for Hellboy to take on that malicious fascist prick from "Pan's Labyrinth", he would have had a perfect movie...
Anchorite, it's true ... The Angel of Death is a variation of .. by Ringwearer9	Dec 24th, 2007 01:33:30 PM
... that eyeless monster in Pan's Labyrinth, with eyes in his hands. Only the Angel of death (also with an eyeless head) had eyes in it's wings. Both have those creepy long fingers and fingernails.
Give Me 1.33:1 Anyday... by skoobyx	Dec 26th, 2007 07:43:04 PM
Silent movies were the shit. Have you seen 'The Train Robbery' "Nosferatu' or 'Motions Of A Horse Walking'? The first time I saw that I thought I was watching an actual horse walking in front of me. It owned by ass.
Give Me 1.33:1 Anyday... by skoobyx	Dec 26th, 2007 07:43:13 PM
Silent movies were the shit. Have you seen 'The Train Robbery' "Nosferatu' or 'Motions Of A Horse Walking'? The first time I saw that I thought I was watching an actual horse walking in front of me. It owned my ass.

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