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Sam Raimi returns to horror! DRAG ME TO HELL his next flick!

First by Flaggg	Dec 20th, 2007 01:23:08 AM
First!
OH THE HORROR! by partnerrumble@gmail.com	Dec 20th, 2007 01:24:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =B03dqxxx1Q0
by bobaswart	Dec 20th, 2007 01:32:10 AM

just one boob though... by bobaswart	Dec 20th, 2007 01:32:57 AM
...like EVIL DEAD...
'spook-a-blast' by Dr Uwe Boll	Dec 20th, 2007 01:38:35 AM
Is this code-language for bukkake? This flick already sounds like Peter Jacksons The Frighteners. Tell ya what, get Bruce Campbell, a chainsaw a shotgun and a whole heapin' helpin' a deadites he can blow shit out of and we'll just ignore that this whole "Drag Me To Hell" thing ever happened... please Sam, please...
I hope it's good. by TattooedBillionaire	Dec 20th, 2007 01:44:50 AM
Spiderman 3 sucked. Oh, and it's very possible to make a good horror movie without much gore/violence, so I really have no opinions either way with this one yet.
Bring Bruce Back!!! by vettebro	Dec 20th, 2007 01:45:45 AM
Now that would be cool...
Don't worry about Raimi. by LoneGun	Dec 20th, 2007 01:53:16 AM
He's still a fearless director with fiendish sensibilities. Whether there's gore or not, he'll deliver the thrills.
finally something besides spiderman by DOCTORDETRO1T	Dec 20th, 2007 01:57:46 AM

Raimi should direct ROBOTECH! by godoffireinhell	Dec 20th, 2007 02:11:21 AM
He's perfect for it.
Sounds like PG-13 Raimi by Mullah Omar	Dec 20th, 2007 02:16:49 AM
...which is unfortunate.
As long as this keeps him busy by Fineus Fog	Dec 20th, 2007 02:20:59 AM
so his dirty hack hands dont get anywhere near The Hobbit. Spiderman 3 was one of the worst films of the year - even my 9 year old son hated and he is the target market. The guy made "The Evil Dead" but it seems his definition of evil now is Emo The Emo Dead starring Gerard Way
The Gift = Holmes´ boobs by CuervoJones	Dec 20th, 2007 02:28:28 AM

Who is "Qunit" by Dr Uwe Boll	Dec 20th, 2007 02:29:24 AM
Is Qunit to Quint what Minime is to Dr Evil?
THANK FUCKING GOD!!! by hamslime	Dec 20th, 2007 02:51:43 AM
Nothing against Spiderman, I enjoyed all three, but it's about time the guy did something else. Now if someone can get Nolan off of Batman before he ends up making a Batman 14 I'll be a happy camper.
SAM RAIMI = SHIT by DURANGO66	Dec 20th, 2007 02:59:43 AM

Sounds like... by Boba Fat	Dec 20th, 2007 03:02:53 AM
the Evil Dead with all the coolness sucked out of it. The independent film-making spirit traded in for something safe and corporate. If Spiderman 3 hadn't been so bad who could have begrudged him a smaller fun, film? But as a Rami fan you just want him to hit it out of the park again and a PG spook-a-blast doesn't get the hopes up.
sorry by oceanic86	Dec 20th, 2007 03:09:36 AM
sam raimi lost it. a couple of inventive, schlocky b-horror movies does not a genius make. (man, i hate when people say "___ does not a ____ make." i should be punched in the neck.)
Fuck that, I want a horror/action/comedy ala Army of Darkness!!! by TallBoy66	Dec 20th, 2007 03:31:21 AM
The holy trinity of Sam Raimi flicks are: Spider-Man 2, Army Of Darkness, A Simple Plan. All gold in every way. However, if we can't get something solid and dramatic, go Army of Darkness style! The original Evil Dead is overrated, the last installment rules!!
Christ... by SebastianHaff	Dec 20th, 2007 03:33:26 AM
Why is it that these days there's this belief that all gory horror movies are mindless slasher flicks? Now it's either GRAPHIC VIOLENCE or the old "we think it's scarier to not show the violence, aren't we unique?" deal. Why does it have to be one or the other? There was a time when a horror flick could be both bloody as hell -and- intelligent and artistic. Not even Kubrick shied away from the plasma in his horror movie. So all the "your mind can make far scarier horror than any special effect" douche bags can go fuck yourselves. Right up the ass. That is all.
spiderman movies by Prossor	Dec 20th, 2007 03:40:51 AM
are plastic and shallow, they have about 0% rewatchability, i don't know where they fucked it up since i expect less out of a spidey movie than a superman/batman, they should have called it Peter Parker instead of Spiderman since that's where most of the concentration seemed to go. how much nauseating angst and sentimentality can one take? how much more wisdom from Aunt "dried saggy pussy" May can one take before he starts tearing his eyes out? Spiderman was a blank here, not the wise-cracking joker of da books
Drag Me To Hell sounds like another "gift" by Berbs	Dec 20th, 2007 04:04:03 AM
that nobody wants. Hated that film with it's crap Keanu Reeves' southern accent and generally high levels of boredom. This new borefest is undoubtably a throw away piece of junk designed to cleanse Raimi's palate before he moves onto the next phase of his career, i.e, the Hobbit films. p.s. Spiderman 3 was pretty cool until Venom turned up. Had a kinda trippy vibe to it. Shame Venom had to turn up and ruin the last 40 mins. They should have held him back for the 4th film and fleshed out the character a bit more.
One of those movie titles that will .... by Lenny8	Dec 20th, 2007 04:40:41 AM
... guarantee a bad review. "This fill feels like they dragged you to hell." Raimi's star is faded. Get over it.
Based on his experiences with comic book fans by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Dec 20th, 2007 04:41:25 AM
True story, actually.
I remember the first time i saw Evil Dead by Amadeo Zeller	Dec 20th, 2007 04:47:48 AM
It was a second run theater in Huntington Park, called The California. I must've been about 19 or 20. I'm not sure, but what i do vividly remember, is walking out of The California with one of those real intense nervous stomach aches after viewing (at the time) one of the most fucked up scarier than a muthafucka flicks i've ever seen...I mean that shit (to me) was more intense than The Exorcist. No movie since then has fucked me up more than The Evil Dead...So Mr. Raimi, I beg you, fuck that shooting one of those tame, p.c. (less is more) bullshit - BRING THE PAIN BITCH! I WANT ANOTHA' NERVOUS STOMACH ACHE.
"Supernatural CURSE"? I can see it: by Boris Baddenov	Dec 20th, 2007 04:55:07 AM
Dick Dastardly & Muttley . . . "Rassin-frassin-crassin-rassin !"..."What WAS that??" ...Then Muttley, as usual, asskisses Dastardly to curry forgiveness.
Drag me to hell... by jimmy rabbitte	Dec 20th, 2007 05:08:35 AM
...is this a documentary about people that ended up having to Spiderman 3 more than once, because some buddy of theirs, "hasn't seen it yet; and DUUUDE I REALLLY wanna go."
sounds like shite by ironic_name	Dec 20th, 2007 05:11:04 AM

I'm not a fan of Sam Raimi, he's a messy director. by brokentusk	Dec 20th, 2007 05:14:47 AM
By which I mean his films don't look professional. I have to agree with Prossor above, Raimi's SPIDER-MAN films become worse the more you watch them. Maybe if he goes back to his horror roots this film will be decent, but all I know is that I hope he has nothing to do with THE HOBBIT. His directorial style and obsession with corny moments will ruin the film.
The Gift was the BOMB by redfist	Dec 20th, 2007 05:30:48 AM
We got to see Mrs. Cruise's fun bags.
Who Knows these days! by FILMFUNK	Dec 20th, 2007 05:37:48 AM

oldsmobile in THE HOBBIT? by ironic_name	Dec 20th, 2007 05:39:31 AM
when he casts bruce campbell in the lead, your pathetic manginas will quiver, and you will ache to see this piece of puppy o' puppy poo.
puppy o' puppy poo by ironic_name	Dec 20th, 2007 05:40:47 AM
i fuckingh quit. look, "fuckingh".. i'm not fixing this shit.
It's Sam Raimi. Don' worry. by The Chosen	Dec 20th, 2007 05:59:21 AM
Spider-man 3 was screwed up, but we can't hold that against the man who made Evil Dead and Spider 1 & 2. Never.
Sam already made DRAG ME TO HELL. by OBSD	Dec 20th, 2007 06:11:03 AM
That's what he did to me when I saw Spider-man 3! Thank you! I'll be here all night! Try the veal!
Sam Raimi has no game anymore by disfigurehead	Dec 20th, 2007 06:11:14 AM
His only good movies... Evil Dead Evil Dead 2 and maybe Darkman. He is just a swell guy now who makes swell popcorn flicks for the masses.
Drag Me to Hell? I'm already there! by Yeti	Dec 20th, 2007 06:25:28 AM
Five days before Christmas and I still have most of my Christmas shopping to do! GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
Prossor and brokentusk, finally... by That 70s Venom	Dec 20th, 2007 06:31:25 AM
... someone who feels the same way I do about the Spider-Man films. Personally, my favorite one was the 3rd one (deus ex machinas and the lachrymose Sand-Man aside) because it was the darkest one out of all of them. Don't get me wrong, I like all 3 of the Spidey movies, but there is certainly a nauseating element in repeated viewings of the films. It seems like the more you watch them, the more you get the feeling that you're watching a yuppie romantic drama with the Spider-Man story as the concomitant sub-plot. I feel that the franchise needs a new director, and I think Steven Spielberg or James Cameron would be best suited to direct the next one.
"Excessive Violence" of Evil Dead by Shut the Fuck up Donny	Dec 20th, 2007 06:52:56 AM
Considering the trend of Hollywood as of late to do these goresploitation films (Saw, Hostel, etc.) I don't see how Raimi and crew have this perception of seeing their old work as having "excessive" violence. That being said, I remain cautiously optimistic.
I THOUGHT THAT SAID "BLAST-A-SPOOK" by BringingSexyBack	Dec 20th, 2007 07:19:07 AM
The story of the LAPD
As long as he stays away from the Hobbit..... by ptindy	Dec 20th, 2007 07:53:14 AM
FAR AWAY!!
BringingSexyBack wins the tb by ironic_name	Dec 20th, 2007 07:53:57 AM
for the blast-a-spook comment.. OZ HAS SPOKEN!!
I'm better off winning your mom by THE KNIGHT	Dec 20th, 2007 07:57:09 AM
^_^
Del Toro or Blompkamp will direct hobbit if pj doesn't by THE KNIGHT	Dec 20th, 2007 07:57:39 AM

oh and BIG NO by THE KNIGHT	Dec 20th, 2007 07:58:39 AM
to raimi directing hobbit.... don't see two billion dollar directors being able to collaborate on PJ's franchise. even though jackson and the berg are teaming up... that's a different story.
CLOVERFIELD IS HEATH LEDGER!!! by lovecraftian	Dec 20th, 2007 08:10:15 AM
--Sorry I...I just saw that everyone else was doing it, and it looked like fun. :(
Evil Dead is a classic and it fucked me up when i was 14 by future help	Dec 20th, 2007 08:18:44 AM
Hail to the King, Baby!
What happened to Sword of Truth? by Sick Fixx	Dec 20th, 2007 08:20:26 AM
I thought that was his next project?
If Del Toro directs the Hobbit by runfoodrun	Dec 20th, 2007 08:22:36 AM
it will be the suck. Seriously, Del Toro may get you fan boys wet, but his movies are half-baked!
Alfonso Cuarón for the HOBBIT please. by future help	Dec 20th, 2007 08:23:12 AM
although i love Raimi as backup.
Fail so he doesn't make the hobbit by messi	Dec 20th, 2007 08:30:34 AM
i love raimi but i will never forgive him for fucking venom in the ass and i want jackson on the hobbit. then i will rescue his career.
Cuaron for Hobbit is PERFECT! by runfoodrun	Dec 20th, 2007 08:40:11 AM

Raimi bashers.... by runfoodrun	Dec 20th, 2007 08:44:30 AM
have no brains! So he made one film, Spidey 3, that missed the mark. Spidey 2 is one of the top 5 if not 3 comic book films ever, so the studio gets involved, shoe horns in Venom, and the movie lacks because of it. Yes, Spidey 3 lacked the visual punch of the first two, but come on, one bad film doesn't ruin a career or mean a guy has lost it. Judging from these talkbacks, most people here defend directors who have made a career of directing marginal films.
Raimi Destroyed Spiderman!! by Lord Nerd	Dec 20th, 2007 08:53:28 AM
My favorite comic hero of all time and Raimi ripped Spiderman to pieces. Toby Mcguire sucked (face it). Watch Toby's top lip...the fucking thing doesn't move. And as far as that other girl in the movie..well I've seen better acting out of a blow up doll in the wind. The voice for the hobgoblin?!! What the fuck?!! He sounded like a teenage kid working in a haunted house running around dressed as a power ranger. All three movies were hard to watch. And trust me, after that first horrible Spiderman movie I saved my money and rented the other two. Raimi is not right for Hobbit.
Evil Dead Hobbits by Lord Nerd	Dec 20th, 2007 09:02:30 AM
We'll see dwarfs running in Benny Hill quick time towards the camera. We'll see Elves running around with swords for hands. We'll see one of those wacky shots of a hobbit from behind jumping up into the air, doing a split when Smaug hits him in the butt with a flame. Wooahh Woh Woh Eeee.
Sam Lamey by Lord Nerd	Dec 20th, 2007 09:03:57 AM
Stay away from the Hobbit and stick with your Back to Hell movie! You've done enough damage.
"an unwilling recipient of a supernatural curse." by xias	Dec 20th, 2007 09:05:02 AM
Who the fuck would be a willing recipient of a curse?
"without relying on the excessive violence of that film" by Neo Zeed	Dec 20th, 2007 09:07:18 AM
Memo to Rob Tapert: What sounds great in a meeting with PG-13 loving suits, doesn't necessarily sound cool for everyone else.
Dear Peter Jackson, by Lord Nerd	Dec 20th, 2007 09:14:39 AM
Thank you so ever much for bringing us such wonderful news about the Hobbit so close to Christmas. Tiny Tim was so happy he through is gimp crutches to the ground and start to windmill in the middle of the kitchen for. God Bless You. P.S. Once Tiny Tim heard that you were considering Sam Lamey to direct the Hobbit we are sad to write that TT has died unexpectedly and now I will have to keep the Wii that I had bought him for Christmas. Our attorney will be in touch.
Grammatical errors aplenty.. by Lord Nerd	Dec 20th, 2007 09:16:38 AM
sorry bout that last letter.
alright... by DigitalBeachWar	Dec 20th, 2007 09:21:17 AM
spiderman 3 wasn't all sam's fault. i think he hated the whole project and worked with what shit he was handed by the suits.
Some of you must die by CuervoJones	Dec 20th, 2007 09:22:19 AM
Evil dead overrated? Please!
Bruce is over the hill by kafka07	Dec 20th, 2007 09:25:19 AM
I mean, I'll always like the actor but why not get someone new and younger in there and do for him what Evil Dead did for Bruce. And yes, I agree with Cuervo Jones that some of you must die.
Drag Me To by skimn	Dec 20th, 2007 09:40:08 AM
a baseball flick starring Kevin Costner..NNNNOOOOOOOO!!!!!...b ut seriously, those who think that Raimi is a one trick pony with the Evil Deads, need to go back and watch A Simple Plan. The Gift aint too shabby either with a brilliant Cate Blanchett performance before she was a household name.
Dear PJ by runfoodrun	Dec 20th, 2007 09:40:16 AM
Please direct Hobbit(s) movie(s). Lonely bones will be great, but we can live without TIntin for a bit, and basically anything else you had in mind. LOTR 3-ogy was amazing, please don't let anyone else near it.
And I'm biased cuz I'm from Michigan by skimn	Dec 20th, 2007 09:41:03 AM
and grew up in the Detroit area...
Nobody ever mentions one of his genuinely great films A Simple P by Lovecraftfan	Dec 20th, 2007 09:49:33 AM
Great underrated movie and great books as well.
LET'S NOT FORGET... by BurgerTime	Dec 20th, 2007 09:49:53 AM
If you have it, you don't need it. If you need it you don't have it. If you have it you need more of it. If you have more of it, you don't need less of it. You need it to get it. And you certainly need it to get more of it. But if you don't already have any of it to begin with, you can't get any of it to get started, which means you really have no idea how to get it in the first place. Do you? You can share it, shure. You can even stock pile it if you'd like. But you can't fake it. Wanting it. Needing it. Wishing for it. The point is, if you've never had any of it, ever, people just seem to know.
"spook-a-blast" by DocPazuzu	Dec 20th, 2007 09:58:17 AM
Spook-a-blast. Just roll that word around a bit. Embarrassing! Worst movie-related word since Arachnophobia's "thrillomedy". The fact that it was uttered by the director and not the advertising whores has ensured that I'll be passing on this. Raimi has a long way to go before he can be forgiven for Spider-Man 3.
Good for Raimi by Samuel Fulmer	Dec 20th, 2007 10:08:47 AM
No director should spend the rest of his life making Spider-Man movies, especially one with so much to offer.
It's not horror without a pair of by Pipple	Dec 20th, 2007 10:13:11 AM
big juicy tits
evil dead was his only good film by krycek08	Dec 20th, 2007 10:25:59 AM
the rest are pure crap. i hate slap-stick, campy, trying wayyyy too hard to be cute type movies.
Doc Ock's medical operation room's SAM RAIMI by T 1000 xp professional	Dec 20th, 2007 10:27:09 AM
that scene was amazing...That style spanning over a 1.5 hr running time. Who's with me?
Concerning the Hobbit.....Get use to it......... by ptindy	Dec 20th, 2007 10:30:38 AM
Until after 2011 or 2012 and probably there after for awhile....every talkback will come around to the discussion of the HOBBIT. BOO-YAH!
DocPazuzu by slone13	Dec 20th, 2007 10:31:19 AM
I entirley disagree with your "Raimi has a long way to go before he can be forgiven for Spider-Man 3" comment. The simple fact of the matter is, after the brilliance that was A Simple Plan, Raimi is more than allowed a mis-step or two like Spider-Man 3.
AS long as its not Spider-man 3's Sam Raimi.... by Obscura	Dec 20th, 2007 10:33:46 AM
then ill be happy. but if he pulls out another turkey like that then he'll slip right down near Micheal Bay in the list of people i respect as artists.
Guillermo del Toro addresses rumors by ptindy	Dec 20th, 2007 10:38:56 AM
http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com /2007/12/will-guillermo.html Guillermo del Toro addresses rumors about his directing 'The Hobbit'
Spiderman 3 wasn't his fault by T 1000 xp professional	Dec 20th, 2007 10:45:32 AM
you can tell that movie had so many hands on it and tons of pressure from studio execs. 1. They wanted Venom. Raimi didn't want Venom. Raimi doesn't understand why people like Venom. You can see that on the film.2 The only way possible for that movie to have worked is for it to have a 3 hr running time or have been split in two different movies. That would have been the only way, but do you think the studio would have wanted that?...Either way anything that raimi has had a passion for and completely understood has been excellent. The Hobbit will be spectacular, and to tell you the truth it won't seem that different from the previous LOTR because Peter Jackson's and Sam Raimi's style are not all that different.
BRUCE! BRUCE! BRUCE! by aboriginal	Dec 20th, 2007 10:46:32 AM
Underrated, under-appreciated, under-used, underwear. As cool as a time as he's having playing in Flo Rida in Burn Notice the dude's gotta get back in the game big time, scare the shite outta Brad Pitt, steal his girl, eat his young and claim Hollywood for his own beaaaatch! Sam's the man to give 'em the vehicle to do it to it.
BringingSexyBack-"BLAST A SPOOK" by T 1000 xp professional	Dec 20th, 2007 10:49:04 AM
lololololol hahahaa... Now i can leave this talkback a happy man
The only problem I had with Spidey3 was Venom. by rbatty024	Dec 20th, 2007 10:55:43 AM
I actually liked the character of Eddie Brock, but Venom was too much too late. I would have preferred more of Sandman. Other than that it was a damn fine movie, yes even "emo" Peter. Because, guess what, it was supposed to be funny. You know, you're supposed to have a sense of humor. It also allowed Raimi to mix genres, which he does so well in the Spiderman movies. Dropping a Tex Avery-like moment in the middle of the film was unexpected genius. The film wasn't perfect but it was on the level of the first Spiderman, if not as near perfect ast Spiderman 2.
Spiderman 3 wasn't his fault??? REALLY??? by www.valiens.com	Dec 20th, 2007 10:58:54 AM
So your argument would be, then, that a bunch of studio suits forced Raimi to have a 10-minute movie-stopping dance number in the middle of it?
Birdy Birdman, you're welcome by www.valiens.com	Dec 20th, 2007 11:02:17 AM
Yeah, there was so much to love it's hard to retain it all.
If you like Army of Darkness better than Evil Dead... by CarmillaVonDoom	Dec 20th, 2007 11:02:59 AM
I've got a feeling you're a big fan of 'Xena' and 'Hercules.' Not that there is anything wrong with that.
Raimi is like Stephen King... by BoggyCreekBeast	Dec 20th, 2007 11:23:03 AM
...he's lost that 'brutal' edge the older he got, and I can't fault them, we all get old. But I probably won't bother with this one at all.
The dance sequence in Spidey 3 by slone13	Dec 20th, 2007 11:33:59 AM
Was a whopping 3 minutes total at them most, not 10. And let's be brutally honest, it was the least of Spidey 3's problems, BY FAR. In a nutshell, Raimi's hits far exceed his misses, by a long shot.
Is it true???? by thedoctor28	Dec 20th, 2007 11:34:22 AM
That PJ is not directing the Hobbit movies and that Raimi is???
Oh yeah, and despite Sharon Stone by skimn	Dec 20th, 2007 11:35:55 AM
The Quick and The Dead was pretty damned good. Hackman may be reprising Unforgiven, but good Hackman is better than no Hackman. AND Crowe, AND Dicaprio, AND a great small role for Lance Henriksen.
Please, let Spider-Man 3's Sam Raimi be on vacation... by ZeroCorpse	Dec 20th, 2007 11:51:32 AM
Because I don't think I could emotionally handle one of my favorite directors hitting the wall. Spider-Man 3 was shit. It was campy, hammy, hackneyed, over-hyped, under-edited CRAP. I tried to watch it a second time-- for FREE-- and I couldn't make it through the whole film. Compare that to "The Quick & The Dead", which is just a fucking brilliant flick, and of course the Evil Dead movies and all of Raimi's other work prior to Spider-Man 3, and it's just a horrible to shock to see a director I thought could do no wrong DOING SO VERY, VERY WRONG! So please, Sam... I hope whatever was bugging you when you made Spider-Man 3 is out of your system, and you can go back to making movies that don't suck. And by the way, I do realize that Evil Dead 2 and Army of Darkness had their share of cheeze, ham, and goofs, but those were SUPPOSED to be horror/comedy. Spider-Man 3 was not meant to be a musical comedy spoof, and yet I could not help thinking I'd be seeing Forbush Man or Spider-Ham in there somewhere. He fucked up. The whole cast fucked up, too, because somewhere, at some time, one of them should have slapped Sam and said, "Sam?!?! What the fuck are you doing?!?!"
Note: "Cheeze" is a non-dairy artificial cheese product. by ZeroCorpse	Dec 20th, 2007 11:54:47 AM
And my use of the term was intentional.
It is old Sam Raimi by fuldamobil	Dec 20th, 2007 12:22:42 PM
Ha! Sam is still remaking Evil Dead after every flop. (Not that Spidey 3 was a flop financially, but it did stink as a movie. And, I guess this isn't really an Evil Dead film, but it's the same genre and something he wrote back in those days.)
Has anybody ever seen A Simple Plan by Lovecraftfan	Dec 20th, 2007 12:25:03 PM
Those who keep saying Evil Dead is his only good movie clearly missed it.
RE: Cuaron for Hobbit is PERFECT! by phig	Dec 20th, 2007 12:40:51 PM
A fucking men
Is it about taking someone to see Spider-Man 3 by The Funketeer	Dec 20th, 2007 12:49:24 PM
because that was hell.
Is it going to be Comedy-Horror? by quadrupletree	Dec 20th, 2007 12:50:57 PM
I want old school Sam Raimi! But how can you have excessive 3 Stooges style slapstick without violence??
Jesus, you fuckin comic strip fundamentalists by Vern	Dec 20th, 2007 12:58:01 PM
THE EVIL DEAD. EVIL DEAD 2. ARMY OF DARKNESS. DARKMAN. A SIMPLE PLAN. Even some of his crappier movies are fun, like CRIMEWAVE, THE QUICK AND THE DEAD, and those first two Spider-man movies you guys keep on the shelf next to your Bibles. But then you don't like the hair do he puts on Spider-man during one silly scene in one out of three of the Spider-man movies and you want to fuckin carve pictures of Magic: the Gathering characters into his flesh. Same thing with George Miller. Total genius. Directed the fuckin ROAD WARRIOR. Follows his own path. Blazes his own trail. You want to rape him and leave him in a ditch because of what you IMAGINE he will do to a movie he HASN'T EVEN STARTED FILMING YET. And Brian Singer. Not even close to their same league, but not a bad director. Half you guys probaly love USUAL SUSPECTS. APT PUPIL was underrated. You worship his two X-Men pictures. Then he does an only okay Superman and you plan to commit hate crimes against him. Here's an idea: FUCK OFF. It sucks when a director you like fucks up, or when a children's comic strip character that you enjoy dressing up as does an evil jazz dance in one part. But you know what? Life goes on. Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. Their track records are more powerful than your nitpicks. It's more important to the world that the guy is returning to horror than that you disagree with his interpretation of the alien spider monster. Is this a nerd thing or is it a generation gap? Do the young people just not respect directors like Miller and Raimi? If so, which directors do you respect? A note to Robert Tapert though: don't forget Raimi's own rule: "you must taste blood to be a man." And you know, a good way to abbreviate "excessive violence" is "excellence."
Drag Me to Hell by Zath_ras	Dec 20th, 2007 01:02:17 PM
That was my wedding song.
Any serious horror fan... by Giacstrap	Dec 20th, 2007 01:12:00 PM
Should really be peeing their pants right now. As I am. Yes, he's toning down the violence and gore. Yes, Spiderman 3. Yes, yes, yes...but if you really love horror, if you really care about that genre, nothing should matter besides the fact that a horror maestro is returning to his craft. (and besides that, how can this not star Bruce Campbell!?) Now all I have to wait for on my dream horror check list is Peter Jackson Presents (/directs/stars in): Bad Taste 2
Sorry, Vern... by DocPazuzu	Dec 20th, 2007 01:18:21 PM
...but Spider-Man 3 was shit. I say that as someone who liked Spider-Man a lot and LOVED Spider-Man 2. I have no problem with organic web-shooters either. I'll always love Raimi for Evil Dead 2 and Darkman (Hell, I even like The Gift), but the combined effect of the lame horror films he's produced lately, Spidey 3 and the word "spook-a-blast" is making it hard for me to feel too optimistic.
Word Vern... by modlight	Dec 20th, 2007 01:20:15 PM
Let's trust the artists we love. When they blow it we can give em hell, as I do for Spidey 3, his only really crap movie beyond that baseball one.
Oh, I forgot... by DocPazuzu	Dec 20th, 2007 01:20:55 PM
...to add The Quick and the Dead to the list of Raimi awesomeness. I love that movie, especially the uncut version with the nude Sharon Stone bits.
"You must taste blood to be a man" by Sick Fixx	Dec 20th, 2007 01:27:30 PM
Umm, you do know that Raimi is a hemophiliac, right? That's the only reason he says that. Look at the Xena episode where Gabrielle is abducted by cannibals and is covered in a sticky substance. The guy digs on bloody women.
BurgerTime by BurgerTime	Dec 20th, 2007 01:30:56 PM
Seriously, Vern's right. A director does one bad / lukewarm movie or covers a subject you're not interested in and it's time to get the hate on?? Regardless of his misfires, Raimi is still one of the more exciting directors working today. Give the man his due props for all he's accomplished to date. Two or three flicks for now, if he hasn't hit a longball, then it's time to talk. But right now, Raimi is still the tits in my book.
Not all nerds masturbate to the 1st 2 Spidey flicks by www.valiens.com	Dec 20th, 2007 01:53:09 PM
The 3rd, while easily being the worst of the three, is actually my favorite because it's the only one where the super hero story isn't superfluous. I don't need a comedy, don't need a coming-of-age spider-man flick or a romantic comedy spider-man flick, just gimmie the friggen SPIDER-MAN spider-man flick. That finally happened in the third. The shitty, shitty third. That said, I love Raimi. It's amazing what the guy can do with a camera and a physical comedy actor.
Gore doesn't mean good horror by veritasses	Dec 20th, 2007 02:32:04 PM
I don't mind gore-less horror one bit.... though if that's the case it might be more accurate to call the film a thriller instead of horror. But movies like Seven, Silence of the Lambs or even (some) J-Horror are great movies that border on the horror genre with minimal gore. We just want great movies, regardless of the gore content.
C'mon Vern by CarmillaVonDoom	Dec 20th, 2007 02:43:23 PM
You are kind of missing the point of talkback a bit aren't you? I'm sure a good percentage of the 'haters' on this site just do it to get a rise out of people...for some people that is the 'fun' of the internet. Just like some people think it is 'fun' to read the shit. Besides the fact that Raimi isn't Kurosawa, Scorsese, or even Cronenberg. People bitch because, get this, they CARE about these characters, some of them pushing 70 years old. Spider-Man, X-Men, and MOST egregiously, Superman, could have been SO MUCH MORE than the cookie-cutter by-the-numbers stuff we ended up with.
a wild ride with all the chills and spills that 'Evil Dead' deli by skimn	Dec 20th, 2007 02:54:13 PM
When you think about it, outside of the torrents of blood and goo/ catch an eyeball by the mouth/various dismemberments, there's not a lot of gore in Evil Dead 2 as there is in unrated horror today. Think of the Demon-cam and strap-Ash-to-the-front-of a-car-and-spin-him-around-Cam, and I can see what Tapert's talking about.
Mode 7 by Sick Fixx	Dec 20th, 2007 03:15:59 PM
I meant to say haematophiliac, and it is a real fetish. I believe Raimi has even admitted to being one, which explains Ash being drenched in blood as well as the lightbulb in Evil Dead.
Hmmm by maichi	Dec 20th, 2007 03:20:28 PM
Don't you say. info@paradiso.be
Awwww. Quite delaying the inevitable... by Halloween68	Dec 20th, 2007 03:26:52 PM
Make Evil Dead 4 now!
If by "crappy crapfest of crap" you really meant... by slone13	Dec 20th, 2007 03:32:06 PM
...a campy thrill ride with a classic, old school B-movie feel, filled with multiple future Academy Award nominees before they "made it", then you're right. Good call, Nosferatu!
www.valiens.com yes exactly by T 1000 xp professional	Dec 20th, 2007 03:40:21 PM
if they never would've forced him to put venom in it we wouldn't have gotten that crap his unclear vision of how a film version of the venom storyline should be...why once again. 'cause he wasn't the man for the job. All he knew was the imagery of venom but not the character himself. Why do you think he loved all the older classic villains? He was never a fan of the newer ones therefore he just wasn't the man for the job. A sandman only movie with a lizard subplot, in hindsight would've been alot better...Huge venom fan right here. Yes I understand that evil Peter Parker's own logic told him his twisted sense of whats cool, but bring that on the screen completely missed the point the Symbiote....Subtlety...there was a lot less of it in this movie than in the others...
Yeah...Bad Ass Sam Back in the Game by Creoleman	Dec 20th, 2007 03:41:37 PM
You go Sam I Am. Can't wait to sit in the darkened theater and enjoy the return of the master to horror.
Who says it's a comedy? by Vern	Dec 20th, 2007 03:43:29 PM
THE EVIL DEAD was pretty fuckin relentless. I think there is some dark humor in there, but it's under the surface. EVIL DEAD 2 for my money is one of the best balances of humor and horror. It's funny, but not at expense of the horror. AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON might be the only one that does it better. Okay, once you get into ARMY OF DARKNESS then you throw all seriousness out of the window, I'll give you that. But this one doesn't sound like ARMY OF DARKNESS. Also, Birdy, you lost me with the Altman reference.
Dance scene was least of its problems by T 1000 xp professional	Dec 20th, 2007 03:49:13 PM
somebody said it earlier, but i completely agree. The dance scene while sucky was the least nagging bug in the whole movie.....The rushing of character storylines. The forcing it down our throats really irritated me...Spiderman 3 completely dropped everything that made the other two especially the last one amazing. It did this to the point that i was wondering if it was the same people were filming this one who did the previous ones..3 was sooo drastically different. I mean it almost even felt that these people didn't care, as if it was done with spite....Think of it this way. School report due the next day, you're going to fail, so you decide to just wing the whole thing and do it with a lack of responsibility with no care for the consequences.
I don't know, Nosferatu Jones by slone13	Dec 20th, 2007 03:54:35 PM
I'm pretty sure you meant "a campy thrill ride with a classic, old school B-movie feel, filled with multiple future Academy Award nominees before they 'made it'"
Vern... by greenstyle92	Dec 20th, 2007 04:39:18 PM
Kid's today don't respect anyone PERIOD. Like Bumblebee in Transformers, they're only looking for someone to piss on.
So... by greenstyle92	Dec 20th, 2007 04:39:57 PM
Spider-man 4 dead and buried?
DRAG ME TO AWWW HAIL NAWWW ! by Pound Sand	Dec 20th, 2007 04:50:47 PM
Starring BigWillieStyle.
"SPOOK-A-BLAST!" by Uncapie	Dec 20th, 2007 06:05:25 PM
Sounds like a game you play down at the arcade like "Whack-A-Mole." Either that or some ghost has flatuance problems of the spectral kind and needs medical assistance. "Calling, Dr. Bombay!"
Crimewave Rocks! by jah_kingdom	Dec 20th, 2007 06:17:44 PM
Crimewave gets overlooked so much, even though it was written by the coens. Fun, Fun, Fun. Its even got that guy from the Trinity movies in it.
COULD BE GOOD by stephen brown	Dec 20th, 2007 06:23:03 PM
Spiderman was a good franchise (until 3) and evil dead brilliant. I hope it is good
SPIDER MAN 3 RAPED MY CHILDHOOD by PVIII	Dec 20th, 2007 06:31:00 PM
never going to forgive him for that.
I still haven't seen Spiderman 3, is it worth the rental? by The Dum Guy	Dec 20th, 2007 06:45:10 PM
I'm just asking 'cause I think I'm going to run to Blockbuster.
A return to form, I'm willing to bet. by Rakafraker	Dec 20th, 2007 06:59:13 PM
I've enjoyed every movie Raimi has made, for good or worse. While I don't usually post negatively, I have to say how sickened I am that ppl so easily pass Raimi off as finished because of SM3. If you don't already know, Raimi swore he wouldn't do Venom, before he even started shooting SM1. Sam had a full shooting script for SM3 that dealt with the Sandman and Vulture (that could have, conceivably, had Venom set up for SM4). Avi Arad (and many others from Marvel) put a lot of pressure on Raimi to include Venom as the principle bad guy pretty much at the last minute. Being under contract, there wasn't much he could say about it I'm sure Raimi was disappointed, to say the least, that his creative vision had been diluted, so I can understand why his interest waned towards Vemon's inclusion, though most of the movie (that doesn't include Venom), I found, was very well done. Was it his fault? You can disagree all you want, but those who know the truth would say, resoundingly, "NO!" I sincerely hope that, "Drag Me to Hell" turns out to be the slap in the face that the haters need. Raimi isn't my favorite director, but he's unique, and can be a lot of fun. Though I don't think (or would prefer) that he'll be directing, "The Hobbit", I think he would have made an interesting film.
spidey 3 by stephen brown	Dec 20th, 2007 07:15:02 PM
S3 wasnt the worst film ever made. had it strong points. but a) arent bad guys supposed to stay bad guys b)the whole Peter Parker turning EMO was terrible. dancing seductively - geez thats bad ass aint it c) he was the director and without him S1 and S2 would not have been as good. Does anyone know if there will ever be a Spiderman 4 ?
Story of the LAPD! by Prossor	Dec 20th, 2007 07:16:21 PM
well met sexyback
Spiderman 3 was like movie diarrhea by Pipple	Dec 20th, 2007 07:28:19 PM
A hot bubbling painful mess full of shit...
emo spidey dance by PVIII	Dec 20th, 2007 07:30:32 PM
OK, I actually just rewatched the part where parker starts dancing on the street, and it was actually really, really funny. Was it supposed to be? If it was reveling in it's own sense of rediculousness, then I might start thinking differently about SIII. The problem is that SII is so damn good.
not sam related by stephen brown	Dec 20th, 2007 07:31:02 PM
Megan gale has been cast as wonder women. she lives in Melb Aust (I too live there) and she is stunning.
OK, I went and rented it. I hope I don't get dysentery... by The Dum Guy	Dec 20th, 2007 07:40:31 PM
Thanx to all of you my expectations are around negative-two (-2), so I'm sure I'll find some sort of enjoyment out of it.
Raimi isn't the man he used to be- by sonnyfern	Dec 20th, 2007 07:55:02 PM
I don't know if he has it in him to do "hardcore" horror anymore. He's a family man now, he made the Evil Dead such a long time ago. I don't even know if he likes the horror genre, but I'm keeping my hopes up, I just hope he makes something as revolutionary and groundbreaking as Evil Dead was. Might be too much to ask though.
PVIII, yes it was supposed to be funny. by rbatty024	Dec 20th, 2007 08:07:22 PM
At least that's what everyone I've talked to outside of Ain't It Cool took it for. Parker was supposed to look ridiculous. For some reason people think Spiderman should be nonstop serious superhero fights. I'll admit that Venom was shoehorned into the film, but other than that it was quality summer blockbuster.
spook-a-blast? by montessaurus	Dec 20th, 2007 08:57:28 PM
huh? that sounds like some made up pseudo-aussie word, like walk-a-bout. Or maybe a ghost with diarrhea.
Vern by runfoodrun	Dec 20th, 2007 10:15:38 PM
RIght on, great post, seriously!
My favourite Sam Raimi movie was A Simple Plan by veebeeyes	Dec 20th, 2007 10:53:54 PM
I thought it was pretty solid. The movie looked gorgeous, with the bleak empty cold setting reflecting the inner conflicts of the protagonists. Also, you can't go wrong with Billy Bob Thornton and Bill Paxton. Well, maybe you can, but they're usually pretty awesome. I've always liked nice guy Bill Paxton more than dickhead Bill Paxton. Even though he did some very not nice things in A Simple Plan, I still consider that a Nice Guy Bill Paxton role. But I think he's really good at getting people to care about his character. He was the only thing that made Twister even remotely watchable. Anyway, I liked A Simple Plan a lot.
Yeah, Evil Dead 2 was the best of those movies. by veebeeyes	Dec 20th, 2007 10:54:53 PM

Yeah, Evil Dead 2 was the best of those movies. by veebeeyes	Dec 20th, 2007 10:57:25 PM
Everyone seems to like Army of Darkness a lot, and I guess I enjoyed it on some level. But it was just too silly for my tastes. It was like a fucking episode of Looney Toons, only with zombies instead of Elmer Fudd. Not that I have anything against Looney Tunes, but it was still a pretty stupid movie.
Oh no... by Mr. Nice Gaius	Dec 20th, 2007 11:00:00 PM
Sci-Fi is reporting that Sam Raimi is set to direct THE HOBBIT: http://tinyurl.com/2xlkcm
THERE WILL BE TEARS by BringingSexyBack	Dec 20th, 2007 11:14:45 PM
Directed by Sam Raimi.
I LOVE YOU VERN BUT SPIDER-MAN 3 IS PAINFUL TO WATCH by BringingSexyBack	Dec 20th, 2007 11:19:26 PM
I can't even believe the same person directed Spidey 2, which was almost the perfect superhero movie (second only to Superman The Movie). Without a doubt the script was shit, but couldn't Sam have demanded a rewrite? The editing was horrendous. A more competent editor (like Stuart Baird) might have been able to save that movie. He would have screamed at Raimi, walked out of the editing room, and take a stand (like he did with Donner on Superman). Crying Sandman, dancing and singing, crying Brock ... oh what a fucking mess.
Save Vern's rant for when JLA comes out by reflecto	Dec 21st, 2007 01:36:45 AM
I intend to relish it when people act stunned that a talented man whose best years were almost thirty years ago MIGHT POSSIBLY have delivered a subpar film. You see, Vern, you forgot the other cardinal rule of geeks like you and me: We'll clutch a director's early works, sometimes a single work, to our chest like talismans, and we'll pretend they're all that matters, even if perhaps they're not what they once were and the facts of today's reality and the film they've made TODAY are slapping us in the face with a titanium dildo. Hence, the fanboy worship for Singer(whose X-films were NOT that great but people were just glad it wasn't feces smeared on the screen that they valorize him now), and Sam Raimi (who is a great filmmaker and did mostly well with the Spider-Man films but let's face it, The Gift sucked), and now of course George Miller and the absolutely dreadful facts of that film thus far. Sorry, Vern, but when that turd comes out I think all we'll get from you is a lot of mealymouthed, lukewarm fidgeting and talk about George Miller's "larger oeuvre". "Is it a generation gap?" No. It's FANBOY MYOPIA.
VERN, I THINK YOUR ARGUMENT AGAINST THE DETRACTORS IS UNWARRANTE by BringingSexyBack	Dec 21st, 2007 02:06:05 AM
We LOVE Spider-Man, and after years anticipating a great sequel, what possibly could have been the last and finest movie in Raimi's trilogy, it's just tragically disheartening to be confronted with what was delivered. You can't blame people for calling Raimi out on this blunder. If we don't voice our objections loud and proud, then he would never learn from his mistakes and correct them for the future. Hopefully he sees (as Jackson hopefully saw with Kong) that too much self-indulgence and too many storylines spoil a movie.
Respect for Oldies by Dr Uwe Boll	Dec 21st, 2007 02:20:06 AM
I grew up with Raimi and Evil Dead, I was the kid on the block who said, "You gotta check this film out, it's brilliant" when Dead 2 hit. But, I am the last person excited to hear Raimi's going back to horror and it has fuck all to do with whether I "respect" Raimi or not. He's a talented filmmaker (I actually really like Spidey 2 for what it's worth - quite a bit too) but the excitement, the energy and the thought that this might be not just "another horror movie" is pretty much well-past gone. To be honest, I love Evil Dead 2 but I'm happy Raimi hit the big leagues because once he hit Army of Darkness it felt like watching a guy who had been there done that (kind of like if Tarantino had kept on making Reservoir Dogs over and over without ever developing beyond that point). I don't want to see Raimi "repeat" himself and I think his time with Spidey has enabled him to develop beyond the "horror legend who created Evil Dead". Where does that put people like Cronenberg and Scorcese (because they've mined a single vein for many years) - it's puts them on a whole nother level in my book. They're better filmmakers all round - they constantly found new challenges within their subject matters, pushed envelopes etc. I loved Brisko County Jr but - c'mon, it was hardly fucking envelope pushing, it didn't slap me in the face like Crash or even Bringing out the Dead did. Raimi isn't as talented as many other genre filmmakers (Coen Brothers for instance - if you want to call 'em genre, which I am for the moment) so to hear he's going back to the same old same old to make a "spook a blast" is a bit sad really. Not a lack of respect just a sadness that Raimi's momentum might be slowing somewhat (I still think another Campbell Dead would be great though - Raimi needn't direct, give it to a talented youngster). Really, what geek wasn't proud when Raimi hit the big leagues with Spidey in the first place? Noone deserved success more (after walling in cattle shit while making Evil Dead and dealing with drunken hillbilly folk) I want to see him do bigger, better - not go backward. As for George Miller - this man has "carved his own path" by what? Denying everything in him that was talented, brilliant, challenging, exciting and ground breaking (Road Warrior) and turning around to make kids films and middling drama's (Lorenzo's Finely Crafted & Exceptionally Boring but Well Acted Turd). This man shames himself and his own best films. His career is a mockery of talent. Here's a guy who really could've been the next Kurosawa and now what? He's making Pixar ripoff's and films about talking pigs? Shit! The Justice film sounds like a terrible idea to begin with (I wasn't an Xmen fan by the way) and giving it to this guy is a slap in the face to audiences (audiences, not "fans" - audiences will have to sit through this drivel "fans" who know better will simply stay home) everywhere. Why not an Aranofsky Justice League or a Liman League. Can you imagine the excitement if the following announcement was made, "David Finchers Justice League of America" Now THERE'S a film I'd back, get behind and be proud to slap my hard earned money down onto the counter to see.
--OK, I've seen Spiderman 3___ by The Dum Guy	Dec 21st, 2007 02:33:41 AM
and it is better than Superman 3
Vern by messi	Dec 21st, 2007 02:37:25 AM
Cuaron wouldn't fuck Venom in the Ass nor would he hire Adam Brody as Wally West.
Gotta have Bruce in it baby! Campbell + Raimi = fangasm! by HarryBlackPotter	Dec 21st, 2007 02:38:26 AM
Could be something special this. Shall wait and see, but it needs the Campbell. If Campbell ain't at the party, I might miss it.
David Fincher's Justice League by messi	Dec 21st, 2007 02:41:05 AM
That is fucking amazing. He'd pick Kyle Rayner for sure.
Reflecto by Vern	Dec 21st, 2007 03:04:53 AM
I don't deny the truth of what you're saying, it is accurate in many cases. I'm not sure how it applies here though. Personally, I do think Raimi's glory years may be behind him, but 5 or 6 guys in this talkback have said SPIDER-MAN 2 was the best comic book movie ever made. That was two movies ago and they've already sworn a blood oath against his family. That seems like a short attention span is all. And George Miller too. If Justice League sucks I will be the first to admit it. But I think you nerds (or whatever the respectful term for you nerds is) are wrong on this one. If you watch that penguin movie, and ignore the fact that it's a musical about penguins, you will see that it pretty much shows everything he needs for Justice League. 1. a knack for thrilling action sequences 2. mastery of digital effects 3. making fantastical worlds out of nothing 4. somehow making a watchable movie out of a stupid idea that you'd think only children would watch 5. etc. Yeah, ROAD WARRIOR was a generation ago, but he clearly still has the chops and has evolved with the technology. Plus, even if JUSTICE LEAGUE sucks, it will make money and allow him to make FURY ROAD, which is more important. The other thing is, the "absolutely dreadful facts" that you refer to are unsubstantiated rumors about who is cast in the movie. And let's say they are all correct – we don't even know who these people are, how do we know if it's bad casting or not? I hope it's a good movie, I'm sure you do too. If it is, I only ask that you send a nice card to George Miller with an apology written inside, preferably in calligraphy. Make sure it goes to George Miller MD of Australia and not that other George Miller who did ZEUS AND ROXANNE. And if the movie sucks then I will send him a "sorry about the nerds firebombing your house" card. Deal?
my "mom" ? by ironic_name	Dec 21st, 2007 05:47:23 AM
stupid, stupid americans..
i will never get the spiderman 3 hate. by kilik777	Dec 21st, 2007 11:21:41 AM
Its easily more rewatchable than the other two spideys. I wish Sam would do something more along the lines of the The Gift and A Simple Plan. http://tinyurl.com/pv8do
Sherlock by Vern	Dec 21st, 2007 12:40:25 PM
I'm not clear on your point. You're saying they're not good directors unless they stop making movies we're interested in? It doesn't sound like you follow Del Toro, but his first movie (Cronos) was "serious" and so was The Devil's Backbone. In fact, he considers those and Pan's Labyrinth a loose trilogy. So of course Pan's Labyrinth is "the movie he was always capable of," because it's the type of movie he's been doing since the beginning. The one that was a surprise was Blade II. I had high hopes but it surpassed them. It sounds like you're saying that Del Toro is limited in his talents if he doesn't stop making imaginative movies and make some drama about lawyers with cancer. Well I say fuck that. That would in fact be a limitation of his talents, a waste of his talents. Just because you don't respect genre movies doesn't mean other people can't. To me and many others it is more impressive and respectable for Raimi to try to make another great horror movie than to do another drama about baseball. Or for Wes Craven to do another Meryl Streep movie. That's why this news is exciting.
Kilik, I will also never understand the Spiderman 3 hate. by rbatty024	Dec 21st, 2007 12:59:31 PM
I think people don't want humor in their superhero movies. I'm fine with something ultra-serious as Batman Begins, but Spiderman's a much more lighthearted character. I say bring on more dancing Peter Parker.
Spider-Man 3 by That 70s Venom	Dec 21st, 2007 01:21:47 PM
I can understand that there are things that people don't like about Spider-Man 3, because there were things that I didn't like, but I thought the good outweighed the bad. I liked Spider-Man 3 more than Batman Begins, and I really enjoyed Batman Begins. In my opinion, Batman Begins has more flaws than Spider-Man 3, and one of the most glaring flaws is that Batman Begins took itself far too seriously, which I suppose was Nolan's entire point, but it felt less like Batman and more like some pretentious Sherlock Holmes ninja bullshit. Yeah, I know, Batman is a detective, but did we really need an in-depth origin story? I mean... he's fucking BATMAN. If people didn't know why Bruce Wayne turned to caped crime-fighting by the time Batman Begins came out (2005) then the comic book demographic experienced a catastrophic cultural misstep somewhere along the line. All bullshittery aside though, I know that Spider-Man 3 was fucking silly in a lot of parts, but just as a fan of the comics, being able to see Venom and Spidey fighting in midair at the end of the movie was an enjoyable experience.
The worst part(s) of Spidey 3 was... by The Dum Guy	Dec 21st, 2007 02:29:33 PM
IMO, the many coincidences that cause the story to move forward, i.e. comet hits ground w/symbiote twenty yards away from Peter and M.J and Flint just falling into some random pit that gives him super-powers. Then again it is a comic book movie, so it is something that is expected a bit. The other main thing was the lack of character development in Venom, alot of people wanted him to be the main villian since the first movie came out, instead (by coincidence) Parker decides he doesn't want it anymore, just when Brock is praying in the same church and thus we get Venom (although I don't remember anyone referring to him by that name). The ending was what I disliked most, it wasn't a battle royale, it was a quick wrap up with Tricia Takanawa as a narrator and a bunch of grown men with super powers having PMS (along with crying). And who the fuck was Bernard? Was he the Green Goblin's gay butt buddy, he said he loved him... Other than that it was an okay movie, the dancing didn't bother me really, I understood it was a joke and Parker was just being full of himself that is why the chicks weren't digging his emo strut.
Standing O 4 Vern and The Hobbit by 5 by 5	Dec 21st, 2007 05:59:27 PM
Right on brotha. Anywho, anyone notice on Dark Horizons report of Raimi making this movie that it says he's directing The Hobbit afterwards? I thought that was odd.
DRAGONBALL TEASER TRAILER by That 70s Venom	Dec 22nd, 2007 08:59:31 AM
DRAGON BALL TEASER TRAILER. REMOVE THE SPACES. http://movies.yahoo.com/premie res/5590019/standardformat/
Sam is not directing this film! by DigitalBeachWar	Dec 22nd, 2007 12:25:54 PM
Jeffrey Lynch is the director
Rob Tapert by buffywrestling	Dec 23rd, 2007 08:54:47 PM
Is Raimi's "Xena/Hercules" producer as well. Bruce Campbell's in "Jack of All Trades" too. I think all of those TV series had an "Army of Darkness" vibe.
sam raimi,JOIN USSSSS!!! by patrick2006	Jan 15th, 2008 11:40:28 AM

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