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THE DARK KNIGHT trailer is finally online the right way!

First by Mostholy	Dec 16th, 2007 07:55:08 PM
And I love it.
first by melikeemovies	Dec 16th, 2007 07:55:20 PM
first
Fake. by SprocketLock	Dec 16th, 2007 07:55:22 PM

First by polycow	Dec 16th, 2007 07:55:27 PM
It's so awesome. Can't wait to see the movie!
DAMN! OUT OF LOTION by guerillakarma	Dec 16th, 2007 07:55:35 PM

Nuts by melikeemovies	Dec 16th, 2007 07:56:00 PM
Second
Uh.. by bob oblaw	Dec 16th, 2007 07:56:21 PM
Where's the bank heist?..
Put a smile on my face by Dokkalvar	Dec 16th, 2007 07:56:54 PM
I like that.
Somehow... by jimmy rabbitte	Dec 16th, 2007 07:56:55 PM
...it's not as fun this way...
Jesus, look at all you wannabes. by Mostholy	Dec 16th, 2007 07:57:01 PM
At any rate, Mr. J's make-up job looks a lot more haggard in high-def.
Meh. by Gus Van Rant	Dec 16th, 2007 07:57:36 PM
With a capital "M".
Glorious by tompiltoff	Dec 16th, 2007 07:58:06 PM

Starbucks. by Dokkalvar	Dec 16th, 2007 07:58:47 PM
Don't know why, but I want some coffee.
Love it by tiredpm	Dec 16th, 2007 07:59:21 PM
That's all.
Oh wow. by Mezzanine	Dec 16th, 2007 07:59:53 PM
I just came.
Who cares? by darrenspool	Dec 16th, 2007 08:00:02 PM
I prefer the shitty bootleg version.
Only... by montimer	Dec 16th, 2007 08:00:04 PM
221 Days to wait until it's out in the UK (214 Days for you Yanks) Fuckers.
My faith is being restored!!!! by Lanceloco	Dec 16th, 2007 08:01:43 PM
Man, I thought this movie was gonna blow (ledger as the joker diddn't help either) but now I can't decide on what I wanna see more, this or iron man
I wonder if by montimer	Dec 16th, 2007 08:02:31 PM
Warners will give us little Batman flavoured treats everyday (like a Dark Knight advent calendar if you will)
Only one more huge trailer to go by Buckys_Kick_Ass_Arm	Dec 16th, 2007 08:02:46 PM
Obviously has to be. Gotta tease just an image of two-face.
Joker by The Rebel	Dec 16th, 2007 08:02:56 PM
Not sure. The rest I like.
I must be honest. . . . . . by Darth_Kaos	Dec 16th, 2007 08:03:26 PM
. . . It was a good trailer and I’m looking forward to seeing it, but some of you think it’s the second coming of Christ. The way people were hooping and hollering about the bootleg or when they saw it at a ‘Legend’ screening, I was expecting something grand! Sorry, it just a standard trailer, and it was anti-climatic. I have a feeling that this movie is going to be so over hyped that the level of expectation is going to be a major let down.
ANOTHER VERSION OF THE TRAILER!!! by Lord Nerd	Dec 16th, 2007 08:04:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =x Ql50dnAg44 (take out space) Fuck Yes!!
FIRST OMG YES! by FlyinHawaiian	Dec 16th, 2007 08:05:15 PM
Leave the basement.
Anyone would think this was out in a few weeks! by performingmonkey	Dec 16th, 2007 08:05:58 PM
Fucking hell. I don't want to see any more trailers or viral stuff, it's gonna spoil the movie for me. I just want to see it NOW! But how am I going to resist until July? There's no way Indy will have a trailer this good. Why the fuck hasn't Indy had a teaser yet anyway?? They could at least do something similar to the first Dark Knight teaser, which had no footage. All people need is the Indy score and logo, plus a couple of new lines over black. It should have been on Compass or something.
Lord Nerd by thecheesegrommit	Dec 16th, 2007 08:09:28 PM
what the fuck is your problem?
Oh jesus christ by Nerdboy1423	Dec 16th, 2007 08:10:17 PM
I wet myself
"Why So Serious?" by Lord Nerd	Dec 16th, 2007 08:11:25 PM

Clumsy Joker by kurdt420	Dec 16th, 2007 08:12:00 PM
When he flinches with the rocket launcher, What a great shot! That's the Joker, over confident and still a clumsy little weasle.
Bit Premo all this like... by FILMFUNK	Dec 16th, 2007 08:13:52 PM
it does look nice and realistic though, much prefrable to Curly goth burton batman and chubby joker. Heath is very fine looking in this role after all.
This years little miss Joker-fest by Pipple	Dec 16th, 2007 08:14:13 PM
Batman's in it too I guess
Love the shot of Joker firing the rpg... by TheRealSeveren	Dec 16th, 2007 08:14:38 PM
and the quick laughing shot when hes in the truck. Looks like a performance that will be a blast to watch unfold onscreen. Im excited...
Time for a little Poll. BEST JOKER SHOT! by Buckys_Kick_Ass_Arm	Dec 16th, 2007 08:14:53 PM
And Why
Very first joker shot is my favourite. by Buckys_Kick_Ass_Arm	Dec 16th, 2007 08:16:10 PM
Only thing in purple that has ever scared me that much.
saw this yesterday before I AM LEGEND... by teddanson37	Dec 16th, 2007 08:17:26 PM
i am legend was good. but i really just couldn't stop thinking about the awesomeness that is this trailer. i just wanted to watch it over and over for an hour and half instead of will smith cure vampire-ism.
OHWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWWIE!!!!!!!! !!!! by mukhtabi	Dec 16th, 2007 08:17:48 PM
I just love the way the joker has turned out... so much more grittily realized than the first time in 89. Jack Nicholson was terrific, but I get the sense Heath Ledger will be Legendary as the crown prince of terror! Let the Mayhem commence YEEEEEEEEEEEEHAW!
Like the fact that the joker... by TheRealSeveren	Dec 16th, 2007 08:18:44 PM
is using the more high-powered weapons haphazardly. As a character he prefers the knives since its more gentlemanly but he knows he has to use automatic weapons, RPGs and mack trucks for general mayhem. The way Ledger plays it you can tell the Joker has no idea what he's doing when he's firing those weapons. No formal training just point and shoot and see what happens.
Coolio by Indexical	Dec 16th, 2007 08:20:27 PM
Gotham is a Gangsters Paradise.
Plot spoilers below. by RandySavage	Dec 16th, 2007 08:21:39 PM
Couple initial reactions (plot spoiler): - When Joker says, "Why so serious" he appears to be gripping a black man's head. Probably when he offs Commissioner Loebb. - Anyone familiar with Chicago skyline will be jerked out of Gotham during that helicopter shot (with Batman on the roof). Maybe they'll add some digital buildings. -When Joker walks into a party and shoots in the air Rachel Dawes appears to be pregnant.
The Batpod is a heap of shit! by judge dredds fresh undies	Dec 16th, 2007 08:21:48 PM
Look at the fucking guns wobbling about, that's some seriously bad design. Aside from that, cool trailer, although I'm still not convinced about Ledger.
Batman had his turn by kurdt420	Dec 16th, 2007 08:22:55 PM
This needs to be a Joker filled movie, we know Waynes story let Heath have the spotlight on this one. I can only hope, I wouldn't care if they made batman a supporting character.
Nice! by fishpillow	Dec 16th, 2007 08:24:26 PM
Looks good! Can't wait to see it. I think Ledger will be fine as the Joker.
When he says "Why so serious?"... by TheRealSeveren	Dec 16th, 2007 08:25:41 PM
that's the only time where I really just see Ledger through the makeup. The rest of the shots and dialogue in the trailer didnt detract from the character at all. For someone who has become so recognizable I think thats pretty impressive.
I said it before and I'll say it again by Fineus Fog	Dec 16th, 2007 08:27:07 PM
HOLY FUCKING SHIT This looks sweet - I think Indy 4 just got surpassed
Is it just me or does Ledger sound like Nicholson by Yeti	Dec 16th, 2007 08:28:09 PM
just a little?
Next Year's Little Miss Hostel by James Westfall	Dec 16th, 2007 08:28:28 PM
AICN article #4,995,362 about the fucking trailer and posters.
The Joker is totally an actor's role. by Barry Egan	Dec 16th, 2007 08:29:18 PM
As an actor, I am very jealous of Heath -- this would be so much fun to play. Anybody who saw Brokeback (I know many of the talkback posters on here probably didn't due to their latent-gayness induced homophobia) knows the guy is an actor of real range and power. His joker is going to be amazing.
COME ON>>> HIT ME!! by ronniepooch	Dec 16th, 2007 08:30:48 PM

Darth_Kaos by MetiphisLabs	Dec 16th, 2007 08:30:55 PM
"Sorry it's just a trailer" Dude don't pass off your lack of enthusiasm on the rest of us enjoying the thing. Have an opinion but don't tell me it's fact.
Favorite Joker shot by BillEmic	Dec 16th, 2007 08:31:40 PM
I honestly think my fav. Joker is shot is him sticking his body out of the window of the cop car. Something about that really connotes Joker's sense of anarchy, and it's totally not a shot I expected to see in the film, let alone the trailer.
Okay... by MRX67	Dec 16th, 2007 08:32:49 PM
So this is the new ad gimmick for movies now? Launch a website and start a viral campaign. And we have to wait till summer? The trailer wasn't impressive at all and it was misleading.
SURPRISING... by ninjatracksuit	Dec 16th, 2007 08:33:29 PM
...how many people here seem to have this image of The Joker as uber-evil, all knowing supermonster...which he never really was in the comics. He did reach dizzying heights of cruelty and had moments of grand plotting and outright bloodlust, but the whole idea of the character (especially early on) was that he just didn't 'get it.' Oh, you know - being insane and all. I will admit that he took a turn for the serious when he recognized that Bats was just a step away from crossing the line (like he already had), and this is where the dynamic shines. Batman is sort of the fuel for his fire. And seriously, what does it make Batman if he really, truly takes out his anger on a bonafide loony? Great moral questions, ones I hope they address. This is what I'm most interested in seeing in the new movie, not what fucking shade of lavender big J's shirt is - but I will state right now that I will lose ALL respect for the flick and some for Nolan (no matter how well made it is) if they kill The Joker off after just one story. Sorry to wax on, gotta go pull out those old comics now...
Let the haters hate by maverick2484	Dec 16th, 2007 08:35:10 PM
Am I a bit of a sheep for loving this trailer so much? Maybe, but so what? The fact is, between this footage, the bank footage and the new posters, all signs point to the Batman movie we've always wanted. Look, I love Batman '89. It came out when I was 5, and I knew that I loved that movie before I even really knew what movies were all about. So it has a special place in my heart. Still, it hasn't aged nearly as well as Batman Returns. Looking back on it, everything from the Prince soundtrack to Jack Nicholson playing Jack Nicholson With Makeup basically smacks of '80s blockbuster gluttony. I love the fact that when I see Ledger in this trailer, I forget I'm looking at Heath Ledger. The Joker isn't a psychopath cause he laughs alot. He's a psycho because he represents everything that's chaotic and illogical. He's a bit like Chigurth in No Country; he doesn't need a reason to kill someone, and that's why he fucks with Batman's world. A character like that is deserving of a serious take that's free from kitsch and the interference of execs who are more interested in casting a name than telling a story. I don't want this Joker to put smiles on his victims with poison perfume; I want him to carve them in with those knives in his pocket. This trailer offers the promise of a visceral Batman/Joker story that we've never seen before, and for a Batman fan, that's exciting. Now when are Spielberg and Lucas gonna get their act together and release a teaser to show that they're gonna fight for the summer box office crown?
Now THAT'S Batman, kiddies. by moondoggy2u	Dec 16th, 2007 08:37:28 PM
See you there opening day
Ledger sounds like Richard Dreyfuss by Tired Eagle	Dec 16th, 2007 08:37:40 PM
I think Ledger sounds like Richard Dreyfuss with pretty much every line in that trailer. I also think he's making the Joker a crazy bad-ass. I dig it a lot.
fucking hd by BurgerKing	Dec 16th, 2007 08:37:47 PM
Fuck can't they let you download files these days that are just standard definition? For fuck sake
Even if... by MRX67	Dec 16th, 2007 08:38:27 PM
The joker is caught his defense attorney is going to go for the insanity plea. Kill as many people as you want and then blame it on insanity.
funny, if anything i want more over-the-top by waggy	Dec 16th, 2007 08:39:03 PM
for me there is no such thing as over-doing it with the joker. jack and mark hamill both pretty much nailed it in my eyes. that said, i can see the slippery slope of killing the character's dramatic weight if you make him too fun to watch. still reserving judgement till next summer (hey, who woulda thunk spider-man 3 was gonna suck either?)
THEREALSEVEREN... by ninjatracksuit	Dec 16th, 2007 08:39:29 PM
You're right - great point and one others should note. At no point in this trailer do I really think 'Ledger as Joker' - I just think it IS The Joker, which makes me start to feel really good about this coming summer...
misleading HOW??? by nogimmick	Dec 16th, 2007 08:39:45 PM
it's a trailer for the movie, it shows clips....how is that misleading?
Let teh haters hate. Tehy just got their asses whipped. by Teh Suk	Dec 16th, 2007 08:40:08 PM
By teh trailer. Lord Nerd, you need to get back to sucking the cum stains out of your whore mother's sheets for protein.
still not sold on the joker either by BMacSmith	Dec 16th, 2007 08:40:17 PM
maybe its just my hate for Ledger but it seemed flat. but those 5 minutes of the bank robbery was definately cool.
Batman never rides shotgun by Saxster	Dec 16th, 2007 08:40:25 PM
Let's get something straight -- making The Batman a "supporting character" was what killed the first go-around with Burton and the lame follow-ups. Nolan won't ever make that mistake. The Joker is a classic villain, but to ever treat The Batman like a sideman would be a step in a very wrong direction. Let them shine equally in Joker's debut; that would work for the best. I have to admit -- so far I'm impressed with Ledger's performance. Those that are hating already need to put down the crack pipes.
choppy as hell by HotShott	Dec 16th, 2007 08:40:32 PM
HD's killin' me. Looks bad-a$$ frame by frame though.
Dark Knight rated R by MRX67	Dec 16th, 2007 08:40:49 PM
Because no way is this going to get a PG-13 rating.
Earth, shut up. You totally contradict yourself. by Teh Suk	Dec 16th, 2007 08:41:11 PM
You idiot.
MRX67 - contractually it must be a PG-13 by Teh Suk	Dec 16th, 2007 08:42:27 PM
Get yer head outta yer ass.
The Building Shot..... by Fineus Fog	Dec 16th, 2007 08:43:45 PM
That Batman is standing on at teh start of the trailer -- is that Hong Kong??? An article I read said that they filmed in HK and Bats jumps of a huge building - cant wait for that
We've already by MRX67	Dec 16th, 2007 08:44:04 PM
had that discussion gimmick on the other thread. I will see this movie when it comes out on DVD but definetely won't be on my 'Movies To Watch' list for next year. Now if you want to talk about Ironman...
Am I the only one who is really starting to enjoy by moondoggy2u	Dec 16th, 2007 08:44:12 PM
the Batman theme. At first, it was tough getting used to watching Batman without the Elfman theme playing, but I gotta admit that this new theme has been growing on me. Anyone else have similar reactions?
Looks like it sucks! by epitone	Dec 16th, 2007 08:44:46 PM
Of course, I'm talking about the trailer for Welcome Home Roscoe Jenkins. The Batman one looks fucking awesome.
Teh... by MRX67	Dec 16th, 2007 08:45:48 PM
The clip AICN showed on the other thread convinces me otherwise. We'll see though. Nevertheless, my kids won't see it.
I know that this has been said before, but... by fractureJonze	Dec 16th, 2007 08:45:50 PM
Every time the Joker claps his hands, some shit blows up. It's cool, but I don't think he's had that power before. Kind of reminds me of that lady in X3, who claps her hand and has some sort of shock wave come out or something. I wonder if the Joker's shock wave has electromagnetic properties and can render machinery useless. Maybe thats why the batpod skids out and Batman doesn't get to hit him. With the batpod.
Looks like a college kid dressed up as the Joker by cyclo	Dec 16th, 2007 08:46:45 PM
for a college Halloween party. Sorry fanboys, the Joker should be a MAN, not some twenty-something kid.
Teh Suk by Lord Nerd	Dec 16th, 2007 08:46:48 PM
Why so Serious?
saxster by waggy	Dec 16th, 2007 08:47:00 PM
totally agree, i really hope the focus on the joker through all the marketing is because of the popularity of the character and not an indication of relative screen-time. much as i love the 89 batman (out of nostalgia as much as anything else), that movie was totally "The Joker (also featuring Batman)". hopefully Nolan is smart enough to not fall into the same trap.
You want to know what I want to see now? by Dr.Poots	Dec 16th, 2007 08:47:35 PM
Grand Theft Auto: Project Gotham City Razing with the Joker as a playable character.
Harvey Dent by movieman742	Dec 16th, 2007 08:49:00 PM
Am I the only one pissed that the he was only in the trailer for .5 seconds? at the 1.21 mark
This forums got a little fight in it... by DonMorckeado	Dec 16th, 2007 08:49:02 PM
I like that..... (licking lips pervertedly.) Jokers teeth are mad yellow, and I love that. Favorite shot is the quick one with the Bazooka and his masked goon behind him. Sick! "Nothing is his pockets but knives and lint" Awsome I bet Katie Holmes loves this trailer. * If I were Rachel Dawes Id hit the joker too knowing he fucked my brother in the ass. Overall I fucking love it. Im new to the talkbacks but they always entertain me so thanks for that.
Agreed Ninja, Remember HIM from powerpuff by Pipple	Dec 16th, 2007 08:49:08 PM
girls... or even more recently chris crocker. Leave Batman alone!
Cyclo.. by MRX67	Dec 16th, 2007 08:49:13 PM
That's the crowd they are targeting (I hope). The increase in violence in this movie from just one single clip makes me shudder thinking what the entire movie will be like.
umm...this looks like its jumped the shark. by misnomer	Dec 16th, 2007 08:49:26 PM
Not a big fan of begins, but this looks like a step backwards, judging from the trailer at least.
"To them you're just a freak... Like me!" by LaserPants	Dec 16th, 2007 08:50:09 PM
This is going to ROCK THE F*CKIN SOCKS, YO!!! Seriously, this looks effing AWESOME.
HE'S WEARING WHITE MAKEUP INSTEAD OF by rev_skarekroe	Dec 16th, 2007 08:50:35 PM
HAVING BLEACHED SKIN!!!!! MY REASON FOR EXISTING IS LOST!!!!!
Other things noticed in the trailer.... by Dasher	Dec 16th, 2007 08:50:43 PM
1) Yes, Rachel looks pregnant in the scene when Joker crashes the party. Wonder if that's part of the script, or if that was a poor attempt at hiding Maggie Gyllenhaal's real-life pregnancy. 2) Alfred is in that same scene. He's standing on the side next to an extra who I thought was Michael Keaton for a moment. 3) In the scene when Bruce is in his penthouse, he is wearing his Batsuit and holding the cowl. 4) Harvey Dent is in the scene when Bruce enters a restaurant with a blonde chick. He is sitting down at a table. 5) Unless they are going to digitally erase it, this movie has decent product placement for Starbucks and Chase Bank.
The crosswalk on Moroe and LaSalle in Chicago is the new Abbey R by JunoFallon	Dec 16th, 2007 08:51:04 PM
Check it out. At 1:49 in the trailer when the BatPod is skidding past Joker! I will be standing down in that very spot shortly looking at that very shot! Who else will be out there partaking in this nerdiness as well?
thank you Tim Burton!!!! by joeelliott	Dec 16th, 2007 08:51:27 PM
The HIT ME scene is the same as the BATWING scene -- only this time bats is on a motorcycle. Next movie we'll have nipples on the costume- trust me.
R rated Batman? Put down the pipe by I Dunno	Dec 16th, 2007 08:51:42 PM
Yeah, it would be kickass to have an R rated version of the Arkham Asylum graphic novel directed by David Fincher, with make-up effects by Tom Savini, with Bruce Campbell thrown in there somewhere, because we're all so grown up.
*Crosswalk on "Monroe". Pardon the spelling... by JunoFallon	Dec 16th, 2007 08:51:50 PM
That is all.
good point saxter by kurdt420	Dec 16th, 2007 08:52:32 PM
But we've had many film's based on the batman. I love batman and his story but what makes a great super hero is a great super villain. And if any villain desrves his own story adapted to film, it would be the Joker. I may be a little biased because I'm a huge fan of the Joker, But all I'm saying is I don't need another two hours of "what motivates batman". We've seen that. I want to see what motivates the psycho who wants to destroy the batman. Do you really want another movie about Bruce Wayne coming to terms with who he is?
MRX67 by Bill Brasky is one sick sonofa	Dec 16th, 2007 08:52:49 PM
I am so glad the state allowed you and your homosexual partner to adopt ... CONGRATS
Perhaps.... by MRX67	Dec 16th, 2007 08:52:57 PM
I'm just a little dishearten on how hollywood has been screwing up re-hashed movies. Batman should die at the end of this movie and so the series die with him.
RE: The building shot by StrokerX	Dec 16th, 2007 08:53:29 PM
...doesnt anyone else think that shot sucks? I mean it's supposed to be an iconic shot but it just looks like some dude in a costume chillin on the corner. How about some lighting? perhaps a cool composition? I like the joker but not...in a trenchcoat. The way he looks in the jail cell is cool though.
Batman Fans never say DIE!! by DonMorckeado	Dec 16th, 2007 08:55:09 PM
Goonies referance. hahah No but seriously, Batman will never die.
StrokerX by Lord Nerd	Dec 16th, 2007 08:55:41 PM
Thank you. I said this exact same thing in a talkback here days ago. If i want to see this shite I will go to Dragon Con in Atlanta. Flame On!!
actually on second viewing it look better by misnomer	Dec 16th, 2007 08:56:26 PM
...I think its that damn batcycle. I'll say right now the movie would be better off without it.
I got mine! by viola123	Dec 16th, 2007 08:56:34 PM
The best quality. Yeah!
ATTN: ninjatracksuit Thanks for the... by TheRealSeveren	Dec 16th, 2007 08:57:26 PM
shout out sir. Also, I agree Barry Egan that the Joker would be a blast to play as an actor but also a huge challenge. Not only is he iconic but hes also diabolical and insane which is not easy to play. If an actor reaches the level that Ledger has there's no denying they have real talent.
Bill..... by MRX67	Dec 16th, 2007 08:57:41 PM
Your father should have donated that sperm he spawned you with to science instead of creating a homophobic son who gets his kicks calling someone a homo on the internet.
MRX by Adelai Niska	Dec 16th, 2007 08:58:30 PM
You won't let your kids go- that's good, I wish more people would realize that PG13 means "parental guidance strongly advised." but don't say they should tone down batman for kids- that's how we get bad movies. And one day when your kids grow up, they'll deserve a REAL batman, not some "hockey team from hell" BS.
This looks absolutely terrible. by Nate Champion	Dec 16th, 2007 08:58:47 PM
Ignoring for the moment why we need a remake of Burton's Batman, notice Nolan's complete lack of style. Every shot centers the figure in the frame; there's no dramatic weight to filmmaking. The man needs to find a new profession.
I hope Batman is in the Joker movie. by Mr Spork	Dec 16th, 2007 08:59:13 PM

HERE'S HARVEY DENT IN TRAILER by FlyinHawaiian	Dec 16th, 2007 09:00:25 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com /2047/2116158969_6410526f49_b. jpg
moondoggy2u... by JokersTeeth	Dec 16th, 2007 09:00:39 PM
I remember hearing somewhere or reading somewhere (how's that for a credible source) that the theme for "Begins" was intentionally lacking. Apparently the composers used only half of the theme with the intention of adding onto it in this movie and possibly the third as well. They did this because they felt like Batman wasn't deserving of a theme yet, he wasn't a "full-fledged superhero (or hero, if you prefer). But in TDK he is the real Macoy, and that is why his theme will be eleventeen times better than it was in "Begins."
Lord Nerd thinks he's cool. Dance monkey, dance. by Teh Suk	Dec 16th, 2007 09:00:52 PM
Go out in the "real" world and open your fat mouth like that. You never will, pussy. You prefer to "make waves" on teh innertubes. Big boy!
kurdt420, you are so wrong. by JackBauer24	Dec 16th, 2007 09:01:19 PM
What makes the Joker so terrifying and enigmatic is the fact that he is eminently unknowable. The frightening thing is that he seems to HAVE no motivation. It is pointless trying to explain the Joker. He just is. Making a movie about the Joker would be just like Rob Zombie's pathetic attempt at telling 'Michael's Story' in that shitty Halloween remake. I think Nolan says it best: "We never wanted to do an origin story for the Joker in this film. The arc of the story is much more Harvey Dent’s; the Joker is presented as an absolute. It’s a very thrilling element in the film, and a very important element, but we wanted to deal with the rise of the Joker not the origin of the Joker, if that makes sense."
Thank you Adelai.. by MRX67	Dec 16th, 2007 09:02:10 PM
But like I was saying on the other thread they are going to ask to see this movie and I'm going to say no. Then I will have to explain why they have to go see something like Enchanted.
Yes. Where are all the talkbackers who wanted Crispin Glover? by hallmitchell	Dec 16th, 2007 09:02:34 PM
Talkback after talkback wanted Crisping. Where are all you people now? Where are the apologies. Heath is great casting.
It's so funny that fucktards exist just to poo-poo by Teh Suk	Dec 16th, 2007 09:04:03 PM
somethiung that so obviously kicks ass. They can't admit it because then they will have to admit they were wrong. I bet they're all republicunts too. Fits the profile.
Nate... by JackBauer24	Dec 16th, 2007 09:04:10 PM
There's more to filmmaking than tilting your goddamn camera. True, Nolan may not be the visual stylist Burton was, but his storytelling abilites completely shit over any movie Burton ever made. And, for the record, I happen to think Nolan does have quite an eye - especially when paired with Wally Pfister, who is one of the finest cinematographers in the business.
Oh yeah, by JokersTeeth	Dec 16th, 2007 09:04:12 PM
I also watched the trailer five times in a row because I got so excited about it. My heart is still racing, I'm sorry for anybody who is so caught up in going against the mainstream that they can't see what is so wonderful about this trailer. You don't have to be driven mad by it, like I was, but to say there is nothing positive about it is a silly, closed-minded thing to say... erm, type.
Upping the stakes by Strshp2rpr	Dec 16th, 2007 09:04:32 PM
I love the trailer. It definitely is intense, and I love their refusal to go cartoonish or campy in any way. If studios are going to dump hundreds of millions into these pictures and build their whole year around them, why would they treat them any other way? I get the impression that the stakes in this movie are infinitely higher. This will be a true war between two of the greatest enemies ever, and I friggin can't wait. Between this, Iron Man, and Indy, I feel 08 could go down as the greatest movie year ever (whatever happened to those 1982 essays btw?).
SPELLCHECK Harry you imbecile by JimCurry	Dec 16th, 2007 09:05:48 PM
"Well know you can frame by frame it." Uh yeah, okay.
TEH SUK !!!! by Lord Nerd	Dec 16th, 2007 09:05:59 PM
You're mad because you clicked on this link here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =xQl50dnAg44 and found yourself having a man crush on the lead singer. Then you look down and see your little dingy poking up through your pajamas, get scared and yell upstairs to your mom cause you think something is wrong. Why so serious? ahah
Glorious by tile_mcgillus	Dec 16th, 2007 09:06:16 PM
Absolutely amazing. Better than I anticipated. Now I am not going to go gaga over the trailer and then be Spiderman3'ed am I (get a shit movie after years of awesome hype)? Please no!
the good thing about this trailer by Adelai Niska	Dec 16th, 2007 09:06:38 PM
other than ALL OF IT, is that Dent only makes a cameo- they can show us a lot, but aren't spoiling the whole plot spiderman-sequel-style
Wait Till They Get A Load of Me! by Alice Cooper Stalker	Dec 16th, 2007 09:06:40 PM
Tres Cool!! This movie looks like it has so much potential. I just hope that the trailer doesn't contain the only good parts. I have a great feeling about this movie, though. I would not in 1000 years recognize Joker as Heath Ledger. He's gained major credibility as an actor in my book just for the trailer alone. Gotham looks incredible. Chicago was the right town to shoot as Gotham.
Strshp2rpr - I agree with yer '08 statement. by Teh Suk	Dec 16th, 2007 09:06:41 PM
Like the Al Stewart Song.."The Year of the Geek"...On a morning from a Batman movie, in a country where they turn Bat time.
Will they explain the gum on his cheeks? by WolfmanNards	Dec 16th, 2007 09:07:32 PM
Why are the jokers cheeks all bubbly?
Sorry Teh Suk but.... by Lord Nerd	Dec 16th, 2007 09:07:52 PM
You take your Batman a little too seriously.
Didn't click on any likk associated with you. by Teh Suk	Dec 16th, 2007 09:07:56 PM
But thanks for making a scenario up about a child's dick. Shows your tru colors, pedo.
Take a lesson from Burton.... by MRX67	Dec 16th, 2007 09:08:33 PM
You can't re-hash a great movie. Burton's attempt at re-hashing Planet Of The Apes taught him a lesson. He made a great movie with his Batman. Kill Batman off in this movie and let sleeping dogs lie.
No, I just know a good trailer when I see it. by Teh Suk	Dec 16th, 2007 09:08:53 PM
And don't feel the need to bully people who like it, pedo.
Man you people take this shit way seriously.. by daveyf	Dec 16th, 2007 09:09:06 PM
Why so serious?
MRX67 take a lesson from an abortion doctor by Teh Suk	Dec 16th, 2007 09:10:34 PM
Kill off any offspring of yours so there will be less retards in the world.
Here's one talkbacker for Glover... by Kirbymanly	Dec 16th, 2007 09:11:41 PM
Heath looks pretty good... but I still get the chills thinking about Crispen as The Joker. That creep is perfect
Dont take it personal Teh Suk by Lord Nerd	Dec 16th, 2007 09:12:12 PM
Just havin fun! hahaha I am Lord Nerd.
Tim Burton's Batman is NOT a great movie. by Mostholy	Dec 16th, 2007 09:12:14 PM
Batman Returns is closer to the mark, but even that is off. And I say that as someone who likes most Burton films, Apes and Big Fish notwithstanding.
TDK will be great by blankblank	Dec 16th, 2007 09:12:21 PM
lots of stuff to address with the release of this trailer: first off: i hated the casting of heath ledger in the beginning. nothing to do with brokeback mountain or any of that. i just didnt think he had it in him. but looking at the trailer, i think he is perfect. he scared the shit out of me when he said "hello cooomisshioner...." he has totally disappeared in the role, and it is scary as shit. they also hint at the more whimsical aspects of the character when ledger says "LIKE ME!". i was a huge skeptic but i am convinced ledger will nail it. the laugh, the way he licks his lips when threatening dawes, the way he walks. awesome. second: nolan seems to get the joker. we will obviously see joker break out of jail (a staple of the comic books) and joker seems to get under batman's skin "you're just a freak like me". he obviously gets the ying yang relationship of batman-joker. "Where is he?!" third, they are upping the ante. if you've read some of the viral sites, you see that gotham is a city in chaos from the fear toxin, and joker isnt helping. fourth, batman is still very much the star of the movie, despite the joker heavy trailer. gordon taking an axe to the bat signal shows that gotham will turn on batman. the part with alfred saying that bruce needs to endure and make the choices that no one else can make hints that bruce will have some hard decisions to make. fifth, zero harvey dent. harvey will obviously be a huge part of the movie, but this trailer doesnt show him at all (except if you look really closely at the scene where bruce is walking through the restraunt. this is a GOOD thing. they arent giving away all of the movie's secrets, since having dent in it logically means that two face will make an appearance in the future (maybe at the end of the movie?) sixth. the have all the character development out of the way, and the action is getting amped up. seriously, count the number of explosions in the trailer. i had tons of faith in this movie (even though the ledger casting threw me off a little). the one reservation i had (ledger) seems to be a non issue. this movie will rock your cock off. finally, i think nolan is smart enough to not kill the joker in this movie. he didnt kill off scarecrow, and the viral site a while ago, where joker says "and tonight you're going to break your one rule" hints that joker will try to push batman to the limit. im betting on batman bringing the joker in "by the book" ala killing joke, and having him survive till the third movie, which will have two face and joker. if you are hating, you must be naturally cynical or an idiot.
Not the Joker Movie by baddaddy	Dec 16th, 2007 09:13:07 PM
Nolan and Bale have both said the movie is about Batman and not the Joker and Bats will have the most screen time.
Jack..... by MRX67	Dec 16th, 2007 09:13:56 PM
did have some great one liners in that movie. For me, that was the appeal. 'Why so serious' Doesn't cut the mustard.
Hey blankblank!! by Lord Nerd	Dec 16th, 2007 09:14:24 PM
You should change your name to BlahBlah. ahah Why so serious?
Silly... by JokersTeeth	Dec 16th, 2007 09:14:41 PM
Kill Batman off? Are you mad? I've seen this on a few other posts and I just don't understand. Why would you kill Batman off? What would it accomplish? Shock value? Seems like a stupid reason to piss a lot of people off. Also what would the actors do with their third-movie contract? Kill Batman off? No. You're silly.
this better be good by Darth Thoth	Dec 16th, 2007 09:15:03 PM
my first view reaction was meh. but i enjoyed it more upon second, third, fouth... viewings! man, i want that sick, twisted, beat robin to death with a crowbar joker! this movie can't get here soon enough! i'm really looking forward to 2008!!
glover by blankblank	Dec 16th, 2007 09:15:13 PM
people who are still wishing for crispin glover need to stop. if he is such a great actor, he would be in more movies.
I disagree jackbauer24 by kurdt420	Dec 16th, 2007 09:16:30 PM
The jokers origin and motivation is no mystery. It has been explained early on, but it was rather cheesy in the original version. Probaly the most well known and most popular is "The Killing Joke". Which at one point was the inspiration for this version of the Joker. He is not as big a mystery as most like to think.
lord nerd by blankblank	Dec 16th, 2007 09:17:24 PM
if you really hated batman, you wouldnt be the most prolific talkbacker on all TDK news... why dont you just admit it... you want to suck batman off under the gotham sky lights
Bale Interview Link by baddaddy	Dec 16th, 2007 09:17:42 PM
http://tinyurl.com/29umewl
Teh... by MRX67	Dec 16th, 2007 09:18:10 PM
I could fall back to my old ways and go tit for tat with you because you are obviously looking for a fight. Anyway, Jack mastered the joker without a doubt. The problem Ledger has is exactly what's going on right now. People are going to compare him to Jack and I'm sorry...Ledger is no Jack.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c iG-Xs7mBwU by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Dec 16th, 2007 09:18:13 PM
first!
ok, quit bitching about showing the Joker too much... by br1947	Dec 16th, 2007 09:18:42 PM
A good movie, particularly a good superhero movie, is defined by a good villian. Good vs Evil, as basic as that. This version of Batman has been established well, there is little need to continue building backstory, we know it. Enter the new Joker, someone the general public doesn't know anything about. That is the hook, that is what will get people in the theater. A good all out Batman vs Joker war is what we all want to see.
one hundred and forty fifth! by blankblank	Dec 16th, 2007 09:19:42 PM
beeeeeeyaaaaaa
That's cool kurdt420. by JackBauer24	Dec 16th, 2007 09:19:59 PM
You're wholly entitled to your wrong opinion.
crispin glover by Darth Thoth	Dec 16th, 2007 09:20:08 PM
i still stand by my desire to see him as Joker but i have no problem whatsoever with heath. heath was a revelation to me in brokeback. he is a fine actor and i have 100% faith he is going to nail joker in tdk!
Agreed, Burton's Batman doesn't hold up... by ckane123	Dec 16th, 2007 09:21:30 PM
Just rewatched it a couple of months back - it ain't that good. It made a crap-ton of money, yes, but it ain't that good (Jack doesn't age well, and yes, they should have just called the movie "The Joker"). THIS ONE, though, I have very high hopes...
Blank Blank.. by Lord Nerd	Dec 16th, 2007 09:21:42 PM
Yes, Yes I do. You're right. Then I'll be his little gay sidekick with a Rainbow Flag as my cape and my gay Prince Haircut and mustache (from when he was in Purple Rain). It'll rock! You'll see.
He Definitely Needs a Bob by Aquatarkusman	Dec 16th, 2007 09:22:15 PM
Everybody needs Tracey Walter!
Jack Nicholson did NOT master the Joker. by Mostholy	Dec 16th, 2007 09:22:15 PM
Wrong again...not even close. It was stunt casting to the extreme, and -- as with most of his roles these days -- Jack just played himself playing the Joker. Even when I was in 9th grade and less picky, Jack was clearly lousy. In fact, he's easily the most disappointing aspect of the movie...well, except maybe the Batdance.
As for favorite Joker shot... by JokersTeeth	Dec 16th, 2007 09:22:25 PM
I am also going to have to go with "laughing maniacally in truck." I just...can't...stop...watching ... Let's put a smile on that face.
No Joker orgin either by baddaddy	Dec 16th, 2007 09:23:00 PM
they've said the Joker is already considered a part of the timeline, no origine required. He's been around for 70 years and with the exception of hitler he's probably the most recognisable villan in the world, do we really need to cover that ground again?
MRX67 by WhoDis	Dec 16th, 2007 09:23:22 PM
Come on, don't leave your fans hanging : http://www.aintitcool.com/node /35081
yea ok by kurdt420	Dec 16th, 2007 09:23:26 PM
way to defend yourself. but I know my wrong opinion is right. thaks for playing
Kirbymanly by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Dec 16th, 2007 09:23:36 PM
Crispin Glover wouldn't be Joker, he'd be Crispin Golver in white make-up. I can't even tell this Joker is Heath Ledger.
Bats sliding past Joker on the motorcycle by 'Cholera's Ghost	Dec 16th, 2007 09:24:40 PM
Total money.
LOL... by MRX67	Dec 16th, 2007 09:25:56 PM
Okay so you guys want to see a murdersome Joker. Well heck, instead of calling him Joker call him by something we all can relate to. I know, Bin Laden. Yes Let's replace The Joker with The Bin Laden. Have him carry an AK47 and let him shoot it in the air as he runs over the guy with the bus.
I just got off the phone with Tim Burton... by Uncle Stan	Dec 16th, 2007 09:26:11 PM
and he admits that casting Keaton was the act of a crack addict.
a Joker, not a Joke. by hard8	Dec 16th, 2007 09:27:31 PM
About damn time. This looks like a cross between Miller's Dark Knight and Moore's "The Killing Joke". Looks dark, twisted and very much rooted in reality.
This trailer is not only the tits.... by Cletus Van Damme	Dec 16th, 2007 09:27:43 PM
....it's the tits McGee, which is the highest attainable level of tits.
Mostholy.... by MRX67	Dec 16th, 2007 09:28:38 PM
You obviously don't appreciate Jack but that's ok. He made his money off that role nevertheless.
Joker's death scene by j_ky2002	Dec 16th, 2007 09:28:40 PM
was included in this version of teh trailer, but I'm not saying where.
Ledger sounds like Christian Slater doing... by Juemad	Dec 16th, 2007 09:29:37 PM
his Jack Nicholson impression. Still, they did such a great job with the casting, writing and directing of BB they've more than earned any benefit of the doubt. I think it's going to be great.
looks preattah gooett toowha mae! by kirttrik	Dec 16th, 2007 09:30:16 PM
Now I want to see the 5 minute bonanza trailer.
BATMAN BEGINS is my favorite movie by JackIsLost	Dec 16th, 2007 09:30:20 PM
It is a great philosophical epic which also works on a deeply rewarding dramatic level and oh yeah... it's a great adaptation of a comic book too. It's probably about as close as I'll ever get to seeing an adaptation of "Atlas Shrugged". This trailer for THE DARK KNIGHT is totally awesome and Heath Ledger is absolutely amazing (there isn't one person who would know it was him unless told so beforehand) but what really encourages me about this next installment in the Bat-saga is Christopher Nolan's comments about the different roles Harvey Dent and Joker play in the story. Man, he really GETS it and I have (justifiably) high hopes that this will be a great film. I wouldn't be surprised to see Heath Ledger get nominated for an Oscar (not saying he deserves it yet but he might). The only thing I would say about the trailer is that I think it would have been nice to see a bit of Harvey Dent but without giving away the plot. Still, that's a small complaint...
"Evening... Commmmission-er?" by Gilkuliehe	Dec 16th, 2007 09:30:44 PM
THAT'S what I like the most. Count me in.
I like it. by Pound Sand	Dec 16th, 2007 09:31:25 PM
Minimalist.
Crispin Glover was too busy anyways.... by BYOBkenobi	Dec 16th, 2007 09:31:53 PM
...even if he did get the casting call because his schedule is full making movies starring people with cerebral palsy. This guys exists in another fucking dimension. The only frame of reference for even wanting this guy as Joker was his performace in Charlie's Angels. Fuck, Boner Stubbone cashed in a better performance than Jack yet we don't see frothing fans for him.
MAN, OH MAN... by ninjatracksuit	Dec 16th, 2007 09:32:10 PM
...is this entertaining, but think I'm gonna drop out now and watch HELVETICA. One last thought - and most of you might think I'll deserve the dunce cap for making it public - but is it possible that the whole Batpod/Joker scene in TDK could be a gentle nod to the original Batwing/Joker scene? You know - like an actual respectful, sly reference? Also, I need to dig a bit more before getting worried - most of you seem to be pretty confident that The Joker is going to survive this flick and show up in another, so I'll take your word for it and breathe a sigh of relief.
Jack did not master the Joker - he SAVED HIM by joeelliott	Dec 16th, 2007 09:32:37 PM
The Joker was a forgotten character, his resurrection had nothing to do with Miller's DKR book - it had to do with Jack's take on the character. Burton's movie was an EVENT. I remember people applauding in the theatre after the trailer played. And this was back before every fanboy was rex reed.
is the jokers mouth slit? by dizzywhip	Dec 16th, 2007 09:32:59 PM
like the man who laughs, is that why he's a freak instead of having bleached skin?
Batman begins.... by MRX67	Dec 16th, 2007 09:33:21 PM
is where it should have ended.
Haters Owned by dab	Dec 16th, 2007 09:33:32 PM
Your whining was for naught. Anyone saying that Trailer didn't impress them is an absolute liar.
I don't get people by Defrost	Dec 16th, 2007 09:33:55 PM
saying he sounds like Jack. He sounds nothing like Jack
MRX67 by dab	Dec 16th, 2007 09:36:00 PM
You obviously have a huge distaste for this movie in general why are you still in the talkback?
At least it's not this...http://tinyurl.com/2tbmnm by kirttrik	Dec 16th, 2007 09:37:25 PM
In these prosperous time, we have to remember where we've come from. We should never forget.
Can't wait. Such a huge fan. by Christopher3	Dec 16th, 2007 09:37:35 PM
Hot shit right there. Dunno about movie, but that's how you do a trailer.
kurdt420 by Jack Colby	Dec 16th, 2007 09:38:47 PM
The most popular and well-known origin of the Joker is that he was Jack Napier, murderer of Bruce Wayne's parents, who fell into chemicals. Or did you mean the most popular and well-known among Batman fans only? I guarantee you most of the people who go see these films never even heard of The Killing Joke.
Joker's Ichii The Killer's Kakihara Face Gash by LaserPants	Dec 16th, 2007 09:39:30 PM
perfect! Ha ha! And creepy as all hell. Can't wait. Drool! Geekspasm!
MRX by Mostholy	Dec 16th, 2007 09:40:01 PM
I have an appreciation for Nicholson...in Five Easy Pieces, The Shining, The Last Detail, and even in films as new as As Good as it Gets and About Schmidt. But it's obvious to most that he has a tendency to coast on his "crazy" persona for a paycheck. See Batman. See also The Departed.
I have to disagree... by MRX67	Dec 16th, 2007 09:40:28 PM
With the exception of that corny movie they made with the original Batman, Burton's movie may have revived the characters but Jack mastered the joker. At least the Joker we know from the comic books. Like I said on the other thread, this joker reminds me of a combined Freddy and Jason.
check it out- Witty Banter!!! by greenstyle92	Dec 16th, 2007 09:40:35 PM
Between the hero and villain! Remember when that was considered an important part of Superhero lore? "Ooh, you've got some fight in you. I like that!" "Then you're going to love me!"
Joker=Rorschach test by Staldo	Dec 16th, 2007 09:40:48 PM
Joker is many things to many people, which is why I've seen every Thin White actor suggested to play him, from Adrien Brody to DiCaprio, and why people can't even agree what he's supposed to be. We can agree he's better off without an origin story, right? the '89 movie did with the simple toxic waste immersion, which was just archetypal enough to work, while the comics eventually gave him an origin as an average, small-time criminal that totally lost his mind at the death of his family. I guess the obvious one of him being an ex circus clown or street performer is out of the question? He has Pennywise beat by decades in the evil clown department.
Agreed, he does NOT sound like Jack by JackIsLost	Dec 16th, 2007 09:41:32 PM
Nicholson's Joker sounded like...Nicholson. Ledger? I take it it's line with some incarnations of the character (which I am ignorant of) but it's definitely not an imitation of Nicholson. The great debate about Nicholson's performance in Batman 89 amuses me a bit mainly because it's a non-issue to what's in the new films. Even if Nicholson had been GREAT, it would not change the fact that Ledger is also GREAT. That said, I think Jack's Joker is one of his laziest, phone-it-in, take-the-money-and-run performances of his entire career. Those that do like the performance like it b/c they perceive it as "fun". But is there really ANYONE who will claim Nicholson was SCARY as the Joker???
j_ky2002 by J-Dizzle	Dec 16th, 2007 09:41:46 PM
The Joker doesn't die in this. I'm pretty sure Nolan has been on record as saying that he doesn't intend on killing off Joker until the third movie. In fact he went further and said that Burton's mistake was killing off Joker so early when they could have kept him alive and let him return in a later sequel.
FUCKING! PERFECT! by mymonkeysnameisjennifer	Dec 16th, 2007 09:42:21 PM
This was all I was hoping for, and a little more! If some people don't dig it, that's cool, but I'm totally psyched for this now. I agree with the people who've said that it's hard to recognize Joker as Heath Ledger. He just seemed like Joker to me. Bravo Mr Nolan!
THE MUSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by messi	Dec 16th, 2007 09:44:06 PM
FUCK!!! I am still convinced that 'Molossus'(the bombastic music) is the best and most inspirational hero theme ever. Even more than Star Wars. That theme is pure genius. It is pure Batman.
Batman begins = X1 The dark Knight = X2? by Pipple	Dec 16th, 2007 09:44:56 PM
One can hope though Rachel still hanging around isn't a good sign
Joeeliott. by Mostholy	Dec 16th, 2007 09:46:35 PM
I'm sorry, but you don't know what you're talking about. The Joker was hardly a forgotten character. Look at the timeline TDKR: 1986. The Killing Joke: 1988. A Death in the Family: 1988. The Greatest Joker Stories Ever Told: 1988 Burton's Batman: 1989. I was in ninth grade that year and well remember the hype buildup -- I saw the first show of the morning the day it came out. It was disappointing then, and hasn't aged well either.)
Dab... by MRX67	Dec 16th, 2007 09:46:48 PM
I wanted to see the trailer because I know my kids will want to see this movie. Actually, I was cruising the cloverfield thread when I learned they were coming out with the trailer. Then I saw that clip on the other thread that opened my eyes to the misleading trailer(actually I saw the AICN clip first) and I felt compelled to voice my opinion. And now you know the rest of the story....
OH, AND HOW by ninjatracksuit	Dec 16th, 2007 09:49:58 PM
Did Clooney manage to come through unscathed from BATMAN AND ROBIN? Everybody else - O'Donnell, Silverstone, Arnie, Thurman (though she was in Gattaca afterwards, and some of you guys liked KILL BILL)...I mean, their careers all pretty much sank hard (some permanently) after that movie, right? Not to be a lightning rod of negativity, but it sure seems like that movie put the last nail in for some of them, except for Clooney - in fact, he only got more popular. Must be that whole 'crossroads' deal, again.
Messi... by Colonel Activity	Dec 16th, 2007 09:50:33 PM
The most heroic music ever is "You're the best..AROUND! NOTHING EVER GONNA KEEP YA DOWN!" Shit is dope.
Wonder what Orson Welles' Batman... by TheRealSeveren	Dec 16th, 2007 09:52:28 PM
would have been like? He wanted Basil Rathbone as the Joker, James Cagney for The Riddler and Marlene Deitrich for Catwoman. Wouldve been greenlit if Orson didnt insist on playing Bats. As a matter of fact, I think this very website did a story on this a few years back but I could be wrong. By the way, I respect all of you.
Not bad at all by christpunchers2007	Dec 16th, 2007 09:52:50 PM
Seems like they showed a lot of action and not much dialogue outside of Joker.... Joker is pretty good, only thing he needs is to be more secretive, to be in the shadows. I wonder how far into the movie is that scene where he's in jail.
Didn't like the first one by Trik_Ster	Dec 16th, 2007 09:53:09 PM
reduced Batman to gimmicks and learning soopah martial arts with very little time and effort. They could have done 2 movies, maybe 3 on Bruce Wayne's journey to become Batman. 20 years of study and training with martial articst world wide. The same with forensics and detectives. Instead we got a few minutes of sliding on ice and magical breathing exercises. Armor and equipment that wouldn't be hard to trace back to its origin And people just praise this shallow crap
jokers blows the batmobile up by ThePilgrim	Dec 16th, 2007 09:53:46 PM
he's riding around in a big rig his goons are wearing the clown masks, he's shooting rocket launcher on cop cars. Somehow this is also involving batman. Theres a few seconds of the batmobile blowing up after we see the joker laughing from behind the bullet ridden windshield of the big rig. Then we see the big rig flip over. This happens on the same street that the joker is walking down while shooting at batman and saying "Hit Me". The Wayne tower is in the background in both these shots, it's the same street. Batman comes down the street in the batcycle and peels out after coming alongside the joker. I wonder if this is near the very end. They are showing too much.
Clooney... by Colonel Activity	Dec 16th, 2007 09:53:47 PM
like France, benefitted from Bill O'Reilly picking a fight with him. O'Reilly called for a boycott of French goods because they were smart enought to stay out of Iraq...imports from France go up. O'Reilly acts like a douche to Clooney, Clooney gets badass gig after badass gig. Coincedence? I think not! Must be the falafel.
Nolan is a visionary by Silverglade	Dec 16th, 2007 09:54:33 PM
He specifically selected Heath Ledger for his Joker. Now, at the time, he could not have known what would be the final result. Heath spent a month in seclusion to rehearse and prepare his interpretation of the Joker. But wow, what a result. Nolan was right. Heath is the man.
Less heroism by christpunchers2007	Dec 16th, 2007 09:55:13 PM
and yeah I don't need alfred giving more advice and more advice... needs to be gritty, i wanna see Bruce wayne getting pissed off that he can't find the joker.
Apparently... by MRX67	Dec 16th, 2007 09:56:02 PM
Few here saw the unauthorized clip. Perhaps now you will understand why this will probably get a R rating.
gawd damnit by Judge Briggs	Dec 16th, 2007 09:56:11 PM
July, July.... I feel like Cartman in that one episode in which he is waiting for the Wii to come out...!!!! ARGH
But why is this clown so hard to take out? by Smerdyakov	Dec 16th, 2007 09:56:57 PM
Just shoot the crazy mo-fo.
orson welles story was fake by dizzywhip	Dec 16th, 2007 09:57:48 PM
but i wish it wasn't. still there's the two serials, but the one i saw wasn't so hot.
I noticed that too ThePilgrim... by TheRealSeveren	Dec 16th, 2007 09:58:03 PM
its easy to recognize the Batmobile... even when its on fire. I think if you watch the trailer too much and try to piece together what happens from the images it does seem like theyre showing too much. For the casual viewer theyll never realize what's what however.
Trik_Stir by Colonel Activity	Dec 16th, 2007 09:58:44 PM
Yes, because the movie going public (the one that made Transformers a hit) would love a trilogy consisting of Bruce Wayne learning forensic detection, voice-throwing, Kung fu, and God-knows what else...but no Batman.
Lord Nerd, I'm going to tell you point blank: by greenstyle92	Dec 16th, 2007 10:00:10 PM
I am better than you. A truly superior human being. On an evolution chart, I would be the dude to the far right and you'd be the dude standing 2 or 3 guys back. Then again, all the other talkbackers could also truthfully say the same thing about themselves re: you.
"A Death in the Family" was stupid as hell by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Dec 16th, 2007 10:00:31 PM
It's proof of how ridiculous and retarded comics are. Robin gets blown up in saudi arabia or some shit and Joker becomes some sort of diplomat so Batman can't touch him? Fucking idiotic. Why they can't they just tell a good story about Batman using his detective skills to take down criminals, how hard is that, but they always gave to fag it up with bullshit comic book crap.
HARRY can you clarify whether or not Orson's... by TheRealSeveren	Dec 16th, 2007 10:01:46 PM
Batman treatment is genuine? I tend to believe it was...might be wishful thinking on my part though.
Calender Man by Colonel Activity	Dec 16th, 2007 10:01:59 PM
is in this, right? And Maxie Zeus? I actually wonder what Joker's plan is going to be. I hope to God he doesn't try to copyright fish or some shit.
ZOMFGSEX by That 70s Venom	Dec 16th, 2007 10:03:45 PM
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!
TheRealSeveren by greenstyle92	Dec 16th, 2007 10:04:13 PM
Wasn't that treatment debunked because it featured characters and elements, (namely, Riddler and Arkham Asylum) that had not yet appeared in the comics when that treatment was supposedly dated?
welles batman atricle by dizzywhip	Dec 16th, 2007 10:04:46 PM
http://tinyurl.com/ow74 it was supposed to be abook. so where's the book?
The best thing about the trailer... by demolove	Dec 16th, 2007 10:05:33 PM
...the opening line: "You changed everything" (Presumably Joker to Bats). The implication being that Batman's very existence has aided the chaos around him and somehow has helped in the creation of the Joker. This seems very much in keeping with the 'ying/yang' vibe of J and B's relationship extolled in The Killing Joke and DK returns. Nolans' obviously taking this seriously, bless him. Ledger looks (and sounds) terrific.
THIS IS GETTING INTERESTING by BurgerTime	Dec 16th, 2007 10:06:54 PM
I have to admit that when I first heard Heath Ledger was cast as the Joker for this film, I was very skeptical. But after seeing this trailer, it's obvious he has the chops. The trailer smartly gives us taste of what we're in for without blowing it. One thing though...there's a fine line the film is walking here. I just hope Nolan and Co. reign in Ledger enough to keep his performance on this side of camp. If they can keep him menacing throughout the film, and retain the same tortured tone of Batman / Wayne personna, I think they'll nail it again and have a winner on their hands next summer. Let's hope....
That book ended up the same place it started. by greenstyle92	Dec 16th, 2007 10:07:09 PM
Lodged deep in the dank dark depths of Harry's asshole.
Sorry... by demolove	Dec 16th, 2007 10:08:43 PM
..."you've changed things...forever.." My bad. Same implication though.
re: Comic Book "mythos" by Colonel Activity	Dec 16th, 2007 10:09:29 PM
First off, do you really want this to be a "comic book" movie? As in right before Batman drives through a wall into the Joker's hideout, he has a V.O. say, "After the multiverse imploded, I didn't know if the modifications that Martian Manhunter made to my Kryptonite-powered Batmobile would remain! Looks like Booster Gold was right--even though he was woozy from fighting Mirror Master in Gorilla City--and this car is going to take down crime better than ever! Now, where's that 15-year-old kid that dresses like a figure skater and draws gun fire away from me?" Yup, sounds good. Maybe Earth-2 Batman could visit... I don't give a tenpenny fuck if the Joker has bleached skin. Is he a pyscho? Does he laugh at inappropriate things, things that are not funny? Does he dress in green and purple? Does he look like a clown? Good enough for me.
ATTN: greenstyle92 by TheRealSeveren	Dec 16th, 2007 10:09:54 PM
hmm...good point sir. The Riddler debuted in Detective Comics in the late 40s so if youre right its still pretty close to when Welles supposedly worked on a batman project.
GO WILL..... by MRX67	Dec 16th, 2007 10:12:11 PM
76 MILLION OPENING WEEK!
Looks very promising, dark the way it should be by Miyamoto_Musashi	Dec 16th, 2007 10:16:34 PM
Like many was somewhat suprised with the casting of Ledger as the Joker. As someone from Perth, Australia so far looks for this fellow Perth boy. The Joker really is a great character, and think Ledger will do really well. This trailer seems very Joker focused, not suprising given he is new, but am sure they will do a more Bats focused trailer. There needs to be real growth with Bats compared to Begins. Really hope they don't kill off the Joker either, but have a feeling they will.
The opening 5 minutes in better quality, not cam by Riley Martin	Dec 16th, 2007 10:17:51 PM
Download it and save it quick! http://tinyurl.com/2gvgrh
Orson Welles by waggy	Dec 16th, 2007 10:18:04 PM
That story was completely fabricated by Mark Millar (marvel comic book writer for those who don't know). he also started a rumor that Eminem was interested in starring in a movie based on his comic, just to get the rights sold (which indeed worked).
wow that sucked by jivatmax	Dec 16th, 2007 10:18:09 PM
ledger is awful
TheRealSeveren: by greenstyle92	Dec 16th, 2007 10:18:17 PM
Check this article: http://tinyurl.com/229byk< br> Should clear it up.
by Barry Egan	Dec 16th, 2007 10:18:57 PM

by Barry Egan	Dec 16th, 2007 10:18:59 PM

I was surprised by Colonel Activity	Dec 16th, 2007 10:19:41 PM
by the casting of Jaleel White as Morgan Freeman.
gets better w/ repeat viewings by Darth Thoth	Dec 16th, 2007 10:21:55 PM
i cannot wait for this movie.
Nolan is... by Greenleaf1	Dec 16th, 2007 10:22:19 PM
...one of the top 5 directors working today, and Batman Begins, TDK, and Batman 3 will be his crowning achievement. A little early to say that I know, but that trailer is everything I ever wanted from this film. This is just a teaser trailer though, but I love every word that comes out of The Joker's mouth. "It's all part of the plaaannn." "LET'S PUT A SMILE ON THAT FACE." just look at how his face moves when he says "COME ON HIT ME" he's just putting so much into this role, I love how he licks his lips all the time.
Just a note.... by MRX67	Dec 16th, 2007 10:23:10 PM
You have the opening five minutes of the Batman movie. If you aren't concern for the rest of the movie then something is seriously wrong.
thanx for the link and clarification... by TheRealSeveren	Dec 16th, 2007 10:26:19 PM
my heart weeps. Mark Millar I curse thy name!
Best film of 2008! by BrowncoatJedi	Dec 16th, 2007 10:26:36 PM
Sorry, Indy and Wall-E!
Jaleel White by MRX67	Dec 16th, 2007 10:27:11 PM
could have played the Joker. His one liner...'Did I do that????'
Do I hear Elfman's Batman theme at the end? by Han Cholo	Dec 16th, 2007 10:31:10 PM
To not use his theme for Batman is almost criminal. It has to be one of the most iconic themes used for a movie, superhero or otherwise.
It's disturbing.... by MRX67	Dec 16th, 2007 10:32:41 PM
but heck they got sixty or so bucks right here on this talkboard already. That will at least pay Ledger's salary.
Solid. Can't wait. Want Guy Pearce in here somewhere by Stormwatcher	Dec 16th, 2007 10:33:25 PM
Maybe as the Riddler or Mr. Freeze although that gets it campy.
What I want to see by Colonel Activity	Dec 16th, 2007 10:35:58 PM
is a "Dazzler" movie directed by Baz Luhrman and starring Hillary Duff. Or a Aronofsky "Green Lantern" Or a Cameron "Flash"
Great trailer...of course that dont mean f SHIT by quantize	Dec 16th, 2007 10:36:26 PM
Begins looked promising too but was a muddled snooze fest...The back story at the top etc was just tedious, and the music overblown and boring. I hope TDK solves all that. Hey i dont WANT it to suck. It's just pointless jizzing on stuff when you havent actually seen the full pudding.
Guy Pierce by Colonel Activity	Dec 16th, 2007 10:37:38 PM
Should be the Clock King. The Riddler should be played by Jude Law. Mr. Freeze should be played by Bill Nye The Science Guy.
This will make Batman Begins look like kitty litter.... by Librerarian	Dec 16th, 2007 10:38:21 PM
...and I don't even know what that means. Looks incredible, and more like the ultimate Batman film that many hailed Begins as being. I've grown to enjoy Begins, but I do think that it's overrated.... THIS, however, just might live up to the buzz.
Seriously... by MRX67	Dec 16th, 2007 10:38:36 PM
I would have liked Johnny Depp in the role of the Joker simply because he's so versatile with his roles.
Im not excited about the movie yet... by TheRealSeveren	Dec 16th, 2007 10:39:29 PM
Im excited about the trailer. Youre right quantize we havent seen the movie yet. Seen the trailer though and its pretty kickass! Its not pointless. The point is to have fun and revel a little.
With a Capital "M," Gus ?????? by Chief Redcock	Dec 16th, 2007 10:40:59 PM
I guess that's better than a lower case M. I'm glad you liked it !!!!! LOL!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!
dAZZLER????? by MRX67	Dec 16th, 2007 10:41:20 PM
A dancing pop star hero.
But seriously by Colonel Activity	Dec 16th, 2007 10:41:30 PM
The Riddler is never going to be in Nolan's universe. Can you picture Bale sitting alone, brooding, thinking to himself out loud, "What splits but does not tear and is heavy yet it floats?...Confound it! Another...riddle." Then he rubs his temples in anguish...
J-Dizzle... by j_ky2002	Dec 16th, 2007 10:41:38 PM
Joker will not survive this movie. Nolan started getting flack for Bats not finding a way to ensure Scarecrow' death in the first movie, and only "letting" Ghul die (wink, wink). Bats supposedly does not actually kill Joker in this, but has a much more active hand in it than he did with Ghul, who, of course, did not actually die in BB. Just my theory, anyway, based on the stuff my buddy is sending my way.
guerillakarma by Napolean Solo	Dec 16th, 2007 10:42:06 PM
You crazy mofo. I burst my bladder with that lotion comment!!!!!
Time for a new keyboard! by Dr. Egon Spengler	Dec 16th, 2007 10:45:08 PM
I just made a mess after watching that fucking amazing trailer. Yipppeeeee!!!
OK... by poeticwarriorII	Dec 16th, 2007 10:47:08 PM
all I wanna know is if they're going to have any shitty plot devices such as microwave's that mysteriously know the difference between water in people and water in pipes??? Answer me that one!!!
LOL... by MRX67	Dec 16th, 2007 10:48:43 PM
Did you guys see the same trailer I saw? Cloverfield had a great trailer, Independence Day had a great trailer...
Earth, by j_ky2002	Dec 16th, 2007 10:50:20 PM
Time to come out of your mom's basement and out of the closet, buddy.
LOL... by MRX67	Dec 16th, 2007 10:51:45 PM
Do you critics get paid?
A few mistakes in the trailer... by Iceberg3	Dec 16th, 2007 10:53:42 PM
At the 42 to 44 second mark in the trailer, if you look at the top of video clip and freeze it, you will see pedestrians being blocked on a Chicago street corner, a PA or two, and also you can see the "road closed" sign in the middle of the street they had setup during filming of that scene. Can you say OOPS? :) Then, at the 1:11 mark, the streets , all the way to the end of it, are supposed to be lined with people watching. However, they didn't have enough people there on set that day so they shot it in stages. Maybe they will add CGI people later for that. :) This is nothing major at all. I just thought I would point them out...especially the first one, as I found it quite humorous. )
Let's see.... by MRX67	Dec 16th, 2007 10:55:40 PM
You have sex with a hot girlfriend and what do you do? Why you come on the internet and talk about a trailer to a movie. Yup, that's the first thing I would do.
Riley Martin, you son of a bitch!!! by Nosferatu Jones	Dec 16th, 2007 10:58:05 PM
LOL!!! I am both pissed and in hysterics at the same time. You bastard. My eyes... my ears!!!
some flashbacks would be nice by christpunchers2007	Dec 16th, 2007 10:58:07 PM
but it aint gonna happen. I really hope batman will show more of his detective abilities in this one, not just getting weapons and armor from fox again do get the job done. its true, they really did not go deep enough to explain bruce's intelligence rather just his motives and how he gets the toys.
agreed on the batpod... by Boober	Dec 16th, 2007 11:00:41 PM
As tough and successful as the breachmobile is as a design, the fat-tired wobblecycle with its plastiguns totally pulled me out of my suspension of disbelief, as in..."Oh yeah, that's what I want to be riding when I'm going into combat." Even a militard knows that cycles are deathtraps modern combat. NO armor, NO all-terrain capability...huh? Let's see the "experimental design explanation" on this one...
I bet Nolan doesn't kill off any of the bad guys... by The Dum Guy	Dec 16th, 2007 11:18:20 PM
It is like eating Belgian waffles in a space station while listening to death-metal, it just doesn't make sense.
I watched it after all. by jdl82	Dec 16th, 2007 11:19:19 PM
The Batpod doesn't appear as dorky as I'd expected. That's good. Although I'd watched the teaser and seen the publicity photos of the Joker, I am actually surprised. He's different from what I'd expected. Batman's costume doesn't look as dorky as I'd expected. But what was he doing in a well-lit room? Batman's style is to throw a batarang at the lights, and then take-out the criminals one-by-one, to avoid being seen. That sort of thing probably shouldn't bother me, but when I saw it on this trailer I almost instantly remembered the scene in Batman & Robin in which the Dynamic Duo make a publicity appearance for charity and ultimately find themselves bidding over Poison Ivy. cringes
MRX67 you're a fucking idiot by messi	Dec 16th, 2007 11:21:00 PM
and you should kill yourself so your kids can get a better parent. what kind of ass would wait to see this on dvd. you fucking dumb fuck.
mask-a-tron you idiot by messi	Dec 16th, 2007 11:22:13 PM
two dimensional comic book roles? Batman is one of the most profound and cerebral characters in all of fiction.
PS...microwaves that tell the dif. by Boober	Dec 16th, 2007 11:22:47 PM
between water in pipes and water in people...LOLapalooza. Yes, that giant hole is the equivalent of Batman and Robin being slowly descended by rope into a pit of hot lava and then the villain decides he has to go to the bank...how convenient.
MRX67: He won't shut up... by Saluki	Dec 16th, 2007 11:23:14 PM
And we aren't even feeding him! This is a whole new breed of troll!
Actually Mask-a-tron... by br1947	Dec 16th, 2007 11:23:36 PM
Jake will be in the next one, as Harley Quin. It's a "re-imagining" of the character. Think Starbuck, but backwards... LOL!
FIRST by pauduro	Dec 16th, 2007 11:23:52 PM
WWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IM FIRST IM THE BEAST WWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Not as good as Nicholson's Joker by suspect999	Dec 16th, 2007 11:24:17 PM
This movie will be worse than Batman & Robin
Han Cholo by messi	Dec 16th, 2007 11:25:07 PM
maybe, but Zimmer and Howard's theme 'Molossus' is so much more epic and heroic. Inspirational. It literally sounds like the embodiment of unstoppable heroism.
LaSalle & Monroe by Dickless	Dec 16th, 2007 11:25:33 PM
JunoFallon, I will be there. You'll need sunglasses with which to block out the blinding brightness of my nerdiness.
Iceberg3 by Saluki	Dec 16th, 2007 11:26:49 PM
You're correct there will be far more people, buildings, and less logos in the final film. I think the road closed sign is staying though, looks intentional.
re:suspect999 by jdl82	Dec 16th, 2007 11:27:3

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