ouhtta condense it down to one post. who cares if we lose all our talkback ranting.

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- The Creepy Thin Man: Agree totally, 2008 will be a great year for a geek!, Sweeney Todd, Rambo, Cloverfield, The Dark Knight, Iron Man, Indy 4, Hulk 2, Hellboy 2, Indy 4, 2 Naria Films, Harry Potter 6, Speed Racer, Get Smart, Wall-E, Jumper, Horton, Babylon AD, Bond 22, New TREK.... its a great time to be alive.

I haven't really stayed on top of the viral marketing game for this film.

HAHAHAAHAAA!

but yeah, either he wants batman to find him, or maybe to kill gordon or crane.

I'm actually think the old Adam West movie, in its time and place, was pretty funny. The problem was it was making fun of Batman, which is fine, but the Batman as buffoon shouldn't be the ideal character in the general consciousness.

Twenty minutes from the end of DARK KNIGHT (direct from the script):

The Joker (as "played" by Heath Ledger, facing the door of his cell at Arkham): You think you're the punchline?

Batman: Don't push me , clown. I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you.

Dr. Arkham: I must insist Bruce, there will be no stupid comic-book taunting of my patients here. This is a home of healing.

Batman: How, how d-do you know my name?

Arkham (pulling his rubber mask off which has disguised his true identity, revealing the face of Ra's Al Ducard, only deformed, post-monorail accident, ashen and with a large scar across the lips in the shape of an exagerated smile): You impotent dope! Did you think an actor of my middling-rate stature could be dispensed so easily in the era of realistigorical sagas? You know I had to make a dramatic entrance to entice the bobbleheads for the third act of this trilogy! I am The True Joker! Bwa-ha-ha!

This is, in fact, obvious from the bit you quote from my previous post. In case you didn't notice during your copying, pasting, and profanity-laced pontificating, I said essentially that since I had not seen Batman Begins, I couldn't comment on it.

The actual point of my post was something different: that if you look at the corpus of batman material out there (of which, take notice, I'll happily admit I've only sampled a small amount), there is a lot that is silly, trite, and ridiculous, along with the stuff that is or could be serious, complex, and meaningful, and as such, any film adaptation that aims to be serious, complex, and/or meaningful will have to ignore/junk a lot of the batman material out there.

I didn't think that I was being particularly controversial, but having now read a bit more of this thread (and others), and seeing the disturbing number of posts that describe their reactions to the marketing of this film in terms of either orgasm or defecation (sometimes both), I can see I'm going to have to pick my words a bit more carefully. Apologies, messi. I did not intend to hurt your (or batman's) feelings.

Wah-wah-wah

Kurt Cobain got into Courtney's make-up box before he died and crapped out your generation's Joker.

You bobbleheads.

Now call me names, douchebags.

You're all going to regret your bullshit when you grow up.

Jake Gyllenhaal for Harley Quinn.

You heard it here first.

As for Raz'al Ghul, I, too, was disappointed that he died. And then I remembered that he is immortal in comic canon, and all became well.

My personal expectations for TDK, with regard to the way that it will deal with the Joker, are as follows: the Joker will kill someone dear to either Batman, Gordon, or Dent, in an effort to compell Batman to kill him. Batman will beat him to a bloody pulp, but will stop short of taking his life. Then the Joker will be thrown into Arkham, where the very best and brightest expert in abnormal psychology and criminal insanity, Dr. Harleen Quinby, will be assigned to rehabilitate him back to sanity.

My only fear is that, just like Burton's Joker, Burton's Catwoman, Schumacker's Riddler, and Shumacher's Two-Face, Nolan's Joker will succeed in his very first movie in learning Batman's true identity. That is such an old and used and -- to be honest -- shallow plot device, in my opinion. I truly hope that they decide against using it.

Seven Corps will shine their Light brightly.

Seven Corps will be at War.

Nowadays, antiheroes are commonplace in the comics. But that's thanks to the likes of the original righteous bad-cops, such as Wolverine and Batman. They'll break you long, long before they read you your rights. So again, he's a villain who fights crime, a terrorist who fights criminals.

As for the Justice League, what I said really is true. None of them trust him completely, and it's mutual. He even carries an arsenal of kryptonite with him, just in case.

in the movie, he orders crap though shell companies.

lucius was onto him and gave him the tumbler, when he saw the tumbler [which he built - and was scrapped by rutger hauer sight unseen] as the batmobile he knew, obviously.

[if you are, you understand, if not, don't bother]

anyways re superman - if the janitor where you work won the lottery and was on newscasts, would you recognize him?

clark kent is a nobody, noone cares about him..

people look the other way at him, but superman? when people can see him, they are overwhelmed.

heehehahahahaa!!!

I'm not sure what it was that got him banned in the end, but he apparently thinks enough time has gone by that people have forgotten him and his zany antics and decided to resurface big time.

I am Batman/moviemack is one of the last true, red-blooded haters of AICN talkback. The guy is either utterly incapable of liking anything or unwilling to admit what he likes. I seen him being asked numerous times to explain exactly what it is he likes as opposed to what he hates and he fails to meet this challenge every. single. time. Oh sure, he'll throw a title like The Godfather out there but only as an example of a "classic", and how fucking safe is that?

Not only is he a hater troll par excellence, he's also an obnoxious tool on a gargantuan scale.

either that or WB's marketing is getting rather aggressive.

Anyways, with all of these superhero movies based firmly on Earth I'm really hoping they go for an epic space story. Harken back to the old Flash Gordon serials like Star Wars. DC has such a rich space mythology its a shame if it never makes it to the big screen.

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Can't decide whether he's taking the piss or is simply a very, very disturbed individual.