gotta see it on the big screen

Just as I thought: have faith in Nolan's casting, and the actors in question will surprise you.

Give Nolan ANY gig! He surpasses himself with every new project and somehow manages to film the impossible.

Moany twatbackers will never be completely happy with anything though so the day an entire Talkback posts 100% positive on something is about as likely as finding a golden unicorn pube!

TDK will fucking own. You're just too scared to join the 'mindless' flock and embrace it.

These are horrible truths to face, but they are true none the less.

I still don't know.

All that aside, really pumped for this, and the teaser, or what I could see of it anyway, looked great. If it wasn't for a certain hat wearing, whip snapping generically surnamed fella's latest adventure, this would be my number one most anticipated movie next year. As it stands it's second in line, but damn if I aint hanging out for it all the same.

So even though keeping the Joker under wraps would have made for a better movie experience, for the suits it's not a good marketing decision.

If Jaws was made today, the trailer would include the scene where the shark sinks the boat. We have to live with that.

My only problem with the trailer (apart from the shoddy bootleg quality) is that there were a bit too many explosions in order to keep the meatheads satisfied. Batman Begins was a bit more intellectual than all the previous Batmans, so I hope this one isn't dumbed down for the mass audience who likes to see things go 'BOOM'.

Thanks for posting the link to the pirated Phantom Menace trailer. Hadn't seen that in years.

The Dark Knight trailer looks pretty badass. I would have liked a little less Joker, but I certainly understand that the studio probably thinks they need him in there so much to sell it.

Dude.

That was cool.

Anyways, TDK trailer is cool...as far as the Joker goes, there seems to be little references to Nicholson, Hamill and Romero in the performance as well as Ledgers own take. I doubt it was intentional, but its cool.

What's amazing to me is that there was a petition going around in the late eighties urging that Adam West be cast as Batman. People just can't see past the last version of the character. I think something similar is happening here with people who claim Ledger is ripping off Jack Nicholson. Ledger's Joker seems more intense/insane than Nicholson's "funny" version. I actually liked Nicholson's version of the Joker and I'm not yet sold on Ledger, but they're not the same version of the Joker at all.

Anyway, whatever you say about Burton's Batman, at least it wiped clean from public memory the "Batman-as-a-joke" of the Adam West years, similar to what Frank Miller had done earlier in the decade (although Dennis O'Neil deserves much more credit than Miller does for updating Batman in the 70's). It's ironic that with Miller's All Star Batman & Robin he's now returning to the Batman-as-a-joke years he tried to sweep under a rug. How the mighty have fallen.

I just think that Adam West, unfortunately, became synonymous with Batman, when he's a much richer, more varied character. It was time to put that version of the character to bed and I think Burton successfully did so.

As far as Frank Miller's All Star series, I can't help but be disappointed. I like Miller a lot, and I even liked the much maligned Dark Knight Strikes Again, but his All Star is just not funny. True, the kind of humor is updated, but I can't help but feel he's making fun of the whole Batman universe in a mean spirited self-hating way more than he's having a few lighthearted jabs. Comic book characters shouldn't be taken too seriously, but neither should they be the fodder for easy, unimaginative, jokes.

I really liked Nicholson as the Joker and I really liked Burton's Batman movies, but I also don't want them to regurgitate the same thing. Batman is a great character because he's malleable and different artists, whether they be writers, directors, comic book artist, or the like, can find something new and exciting in the same primordial material handed down through the years. The same elements can be rearranged to make something that's still recognizably Batman, but also something we haven't seen before. Ledger is slowly eroding my skepticism.

I'm going to say it: George Lucas rules.

I may be repeating myself, but the reason why Batman is such a strong character is because he's malleable. You can do so many things with Batman and make him different in so many ways with the essential elements of his character. If this wasn't the case, and people didn't change the character over the years, then there would no longer be a Batman because people would get bored with the character, much less because he would seem outdated.

But he's a very sad little boy who still sleeps in Batman pajamas.