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What’s Ahead for Barksdale, Marlo, McNulty, Daniels, Freamon, Beattie & Carcetti In The Final Season of THE WIRE??

First! by kevinwillis.net	Dec 5th, 2007 11:10:57 PM
But who cares.
Only!! by kevinwillis.net	Dec 5th, 2007 11:12:07 PM
Given the subject matter, I might be the only person to post on this TalkBack. No, seriously, I know I'm actually the only person on earth who doesn't give a tin fart about The Wire.
"Major Crimes?!" by CrazyJoeDavola	Dec 6th, 2007 12:04:11 AM
"Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeit." ~Clay Davis
And I thought I was excited about Buffy 8.9 by genre.comeback	Dec 6th, 2007 12:12:11 AM
Then comes the next season of the Wire! So brilliant I can't wait. And kevinwillis.net, judging by the ratings, you are actually in the vast majority there, I just think you're missing out.
Holy Cow, Holy Cow!!!11!111!!11!!!!! by Triceratops on Fire	Dec 6th, 2007 12:14:34 AM
Me loves The Wire! Stringer Bell reigns supreme! I just finished season 3. Can someone tell me if season 4 lives up to the precedent set by the previous season???
I ain't goin' to no Hamsterdam... by Got Dat WMD	Dec 6th, 2007 12:30:50 AM
Got dem spider bags, got dem body bags, dat white top! The Wire is the best motherfucking show on the planet, ya heard?
Meldrik!! by buffywrestling	Dec 6th, 2007 12:31:14 AM
Loves me some Clark Johnson..
Triceratops by Got Dat WMD	Dec 6th, 2007 12:33:01 AM
Season 4 is best, in my opinion, despite the decided lack of McNulty and Avon.
The Best Drama on TV, without frills by Stormwatcher	Dec 6th, 2007 12:34:10 AM
Damn fine show. I love it. Like a Dickens novel with better writing! Long live the Wire. Long live the gay robin hood!
only shows better than The Wire by Halfbreedqueen	Dec 6th, 2007 12:34:45 AM
are CSI: Miami and Happy Days
YEAAAAAHHHHHHHH by Halfbreedqueen	Dec 6th, 2007 12:35:07 AM

CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS! by Bungion Boy	Dec 6th, 2007 12:37:53 AM
This really is the best show on tv. Or at least it will be for its final season. I just rewatched Season 3 with a friend who is just watching it all for the first time. It's such a wonderful show. I'll miss it so much when it's gone.
Lack of McNulty? by Triceratops on Fire	Dec 6th, 2007 01:04:13 AM
Dang. Guess I'll have to see for myself. But thanks for the vote of confidence WMD. The Wire really is the best show I've seen. Ranking it with, say, the great novels of all time like Great Expectations, The Brothers Karamazov, or The Lord of The Rings isn't disrespectful to any of the comparisons. It's a wonderfully deep and introspective serial.
Dominic West by Got Dat WMD	Dec 6th, 2007 01:15:44 AM
He was busy shooting 300, among other things, so McNulty kinda got shafted in the 4th season. Not that what happens with his character doesn't perfectly fit the story. Luckily, looks like McNulty's back for the final season, so no harm no foul.
Five Will Be The Best by Jack D. Ripper	Dec 6th, 2007 01:39:52 AM
It will have, I'm sure, Avon testifying against Clay Davis, something McNulty, early as season 1, wanted to stop. Also, the Greeks are back.
this is a trap by proper	Dec 6th, 2007 02:01:39 AM
I'm staying spoiler free.I'm only half way thru series 2,D'Angelo just got taken out,Stringer Bell must pay dammit,he was a good kid......
Looks like they're really wrapping things up good... by Executor	Dec 6th, 2007 02:47:46 AM
We've got return appearancese from Barksdale, the Greeks, the kids. Looking forward to this.
And this is how great shows are written... by Executor	Dec 6th, 2007 02:51:29 AM
With great writers. Richard Price. Dennis Lehane. If you want to create a TV show that feels like a novel, get novelists. THESE are the people that deserve more money and residuals, the writers who are artists. Not some hacks who bang out the latest Moonlight nonsense or some fill-in-the-blank shit from a CSI template.
Season Four by homerofthesea	Dec 6th, 2007 05:38:45 AM
is the best one by far (IMO) and that's no small feat, considering the tricky nature of the story- line. The four kids are all outstanding -- not a single phony or precious moment from any of them in the entire season. You won't miss McNulty -- and if you do, you'll probably really enjoy the season finale, where he's back front and center.
Great series by NudeandAroused	Dec 6th, 2007 06:40:08 AM
From start to finish. I cannot wait until the end of the month. I will be watching every episode multiple times.
George Pelecanos is the MAN by Kentucky Colonel	Dec 6th, 2007 06:47:42 AM
Any fan of crime fiction is doing themselves a disservice if they haven't read any of his work...especially the "Derek Strange" novels. Sheeeeeeeyaaat!
PS- by Kentucky Colonel	Dec 6th, 2007 06:48:01 AM
I hear that WMD is the BOMB!
Prop Joe, Mcnulty/Bunk and Omar prequels!!!!! by Cameron1	Dec 6th, 2007 07:29:51 AM
http://tiny.cc/VHaIh http://tiny.cc/kAvtV http://tiny.cc/7iQjY Thank me later Herc.
I will never say this is the best TV show ever by I am_NOTREAL	Dec 6th, 2007 07:40:25 AM
But is it the most ambitious, dense, and socially relevant TV show ever? Beyond any shadow of a doubt.
Season 4 - On Demand by Hagakure	Dec 6th, 2007 08:30:47 AM
The HBO promos on On Demand have been hyping the "Catch up with Season 3 and 4 on ON Demand" before season 5 begins in January. To date, Season 4 episodes are still not available On Demand. Anyone have an idea when this is supposed to go into effect?
It goes into effect by Got Dat WMD	Dec 6th, 2007 08:47:01 AM
after the 10th of December.
You want it to be one way... by GravyAkira	Dec 6th, 2007 09:35:03 AM
But its the other way. This show gets better with every repeated viewing. In my opinion, season 4 may well have been its best yet. If this manages to top last season, we may have to crown this as the greatest scripted television series ever!
I'm sure The Wire is Awesome but... by Frank Black	Dec 6th, 2007 09:36:57 AM
Why isn't there a Life TB? Life is by far the best new tv show this Fall and after last night's crazy jaw dropper I don't know how long I can't wait for new episodes without going CRAZY!!!!
"This is Baltimore, gentlemen. The gods will not save you." by Boxcutter	Dec 6th, 2007 10:08:36 AM
Check out the Wire community boards on the HBO site - Favorite Lines. Man, you can get lost in there for days. For those playing catch up, Season 3 gets so good, it's almost hard to breathe. That scene on the balcony overlooking the harbor between String and Avon...Omar: "We'll have to go in the front"; Mouzone: "That'll be a change for you, won't it?"...The Bunk/McNulty and Rawls/Colvin exchanges...Beautiful, brilliant, bold WRITING. That's where it all starts. Epic stuff. Cannot wait.
Re: article title - who the hell is Beattie? by Boxcutter	Dec 6th, 2007 10:20:09 AM
Do he mean Sweet Beatrice "Beadie" Russell? Some pol or journo I missed? Or have I gone arsewards to madness?
Ashok0 by toshiro-solo	Dec 6th, 2007 10:27:17 AM
You're "sure" the Wire is excellent - which means you haven't seen it - but you think Dexter and BSG are just as good? If you haven't seen it - based on what? Dexter is a pretty good show in it's own right, but the thing that's bugged me about Dex is that after watching some Wire, the police department aspects of Dexter are just woefully inadequate. In fact, after The Wire, every other cop show on TV is pretty laughable. Seriously - watch this show at your peril - it's good enough that other TV starts to lack in comparison.
Its all on the printed page by oogabooga	Dec 6th, 2007 10:59:53 AM
I mean, "Zodiac" was a great realistic film, but the realism doesn't automatically upgrade it over "The Empire Strikes Back" or "Se7en". Its not about realism. Realism is what made Zodiac a shit movie. Its all about the writing. Sure Simon knows all the police stuff inside out but what makes it great is the way he combines the dramatic and tragic with the real experiences in his head.
Absolutely by Laserhead	Dec 6th, 2007 11:02:27 AM
The most ambitious, well-written, engaging, and yes, BEST show ever in the history of television. Has become television's equivalent of great literature. Best thing that's ever been on TV.
Cameron1 by Olsen Twins_Fan	Dec 6th, 2007 11:29:32 AM
What are those prequels from? Sweet! And thank you!
Just started re-watching it from the beginning.. by DanielKurland	Dec 6th, 2007 12:24:01 PM
Honestly, are there any other shows where acclaimed writers like Lehane actually jump at the chance to write for the show? Cannot wait for this. Tht scene with the Hamsterdam bust with Ride of the Valkyries playing is so good, and does anyone else think that Carcetti is a dead ringer for Ed Norton?
Season 5 theme by Captain Hollywood	Dec 6th, 2007 12:27:44 PM
http://www.box.net/shared/stat ic/493t17uc0r.mp3 Olsen Twins Fan - http://tinyurl.com/2zdyyz I'm excited. Just to add, I want to say that this show cannot be judged on the first season alone. Part of what makes this show so great is how every episode/season/character is connected. While certain characters may appear in every episode, it's only on rare occasions where these characters meet up.
Also the scene where... by DanielKurland	Dec 6th, 2007 12:29:39 PM
McNulty is drunk and trying to drive home, yet he continually keeps smashing his car, but keeps trying to make it, but only making things worse. I just loved how this show would have their main character doing awful things like drunk driving, and picking up some random waitress at a bar, and have him doing terrible, weak things. It's all part of what makes this show so real.
Ashok0 by toshiro-solo	Dec 6th, 2007 12:43:27 PM
I can see where you're coming from. One of the great things about The Wire, though, is that each season really builds on everything that's come before it, so that it just gets better and better. It's almost hard to describe the show at this point. It's not a cop show, it's not a politics show, it's not a school show - it's all of those things and more. If you can track down a copy of a magazine called The Believer from a few months back (it's put out by the good folks at Dave Eggers' 826 Valencia), there's an AWESOME interview with David Simon that helps to understand the perspective of the show. There's also a good article in a recent New Yorker, but the Believer interview was solid gold.
ash0ko by Frank Black	Dec 6th, 2007 01:01:04 PM
Life is a show about a cop who spends 12 years for a crime he didn't commit and is exonerated through DNA 12 years later and rejoins the force and secretly trying to solve the crime of who framed him. It is on NBC and stars Damian Lewis and is like a modern hard boiled detective show disguised as another police drama but plays out like a great crime novel. It is funny, smart and gets better and richer with every episode. The acting is amazing and the mystery is riveting. I did not want to watch another show this season but my wife and I have been glued to the tv ever since the first episode. It puts CSI & Law Order (I like the Law & Order shows for what they are) to SHAME!!! When the DVD comes out I plan on buying it and watching it all over again.
ummm the name is McNutty by Russman	Dec 6th, 2007 01:22:37 PM
So sayith Bubbles.
If you don't think the Wire is the best show ever... by Somerichs	Dec 6th, 2007 01:31:20 PM
You're wrong. Sorry.
Boxcutter & DanielKur, among the best scenes: by Somerichs	Dec 6th, 2007 01:33:05 PM
Remember the scene from season one where Bunk & Mcnulty are trying to figure out who murdered that prostitute (think she was a hooker anyway), and all of the dialogue in the entire scene (a good 3-5 minutes long, as i recall) consists of Bunk and Mcnulty repeatedly saying "Fuck me" as they explore and discover how the crime went down? Simply REMARKABLE...
Somerichs by toshiro-solo	Dec 6th, 2007 01:56:29 PM
Actually, I think it was just plain "fuck", not even "fuck me." The different meanings they got out of the f-bomb were great.
The Wire is in a class of its own. by Fist Dirtbox	Dec 6th, 2007 02:04:24 PM
Seriously, you just don't want to compare it to anything else on TV - it's just on a different level.
I love The Wire as much as anyone but... by Napolean Solo	Dec 6th, 2007 02:34:21 PM
They do some stupid things like... Bodie's death. Absolutely ridiculous. If that was the reason he was going to go out, they could have done that in the first season. Stupid. And let me tell you... if they kill off Barksdale or Omar in the fifth season, why I'm gon'... Sheeeeeeeeiiiiiit! Don't even go there.
Somerichs and Toshiro: BEST. SCENE. EVER. by MGTHEDJ	Dec 6th, 2007 03:02:16 PM
That was when I was hooked. Pure Genius. Also when McNulty determines where the girl postitute in season 2 was killed and proves the homicide division has juristiction over all the girls' deaths is another great scene. No other show on television, on any channel, had the guts to shoot, edit, and lock-in McNulty's scene that way at that time. Another shout out to the actors on "The Wire." They are all getting work now, not just D. West. I've seen Deirdra Lovejoy pop up on 2 or three other shows, Michael K. Williams has been everywhere. And now Lance Reddick is in a Cadillac commercial, and IMDB says he will be in the season premiere of "Lost." With the strike, maybe "The Wire" will at least get a nomination for best drama series at the emmys.-----later-----m
Napolean Solo.... that was the point of Bodie's death... by Russman	Dec 6th, 2007 03:06:50 PM
he died for bullshit. His life was worthless, yeah he probably didn't have the normal options like a number of us do, so there he is selling drugs, doing his job, doing his job well when all of a sudden there's a management change and the new owners won't hesitate to "retire" you. The old "rules" and "code" didn't matter anymore. Plus Bodie's death was just the incident to wake McNulty up and get him back doing what he's good at. One of the themes of the show is (IMHO): Life is Cheap - and the burracracy for both the "good guys" and the "bad guys" will cut you down without remorse if they think you'll muck things up.
MGTHEDJ - Regarding Emmy Love by toshiro-solo	Dec 6th, 2007 03:22:06 PM
The fact that this show hasn't gotten ANY Emmy love invalidates the award entirely for me. I used to think the Emmy was at least a bit more credible than the Grammy - no longer.
Trivia Question: by Kentucky Colonel	Dec 6th, 2007 03:27:59 PM
Name the first casualty from the first episode?
PAAAANDEMIC! by dudemandude	Dec 6th, 2007 03:29:49 PM
got dat paaaandemic righ'chear! righ'chear! pandemic! the wire is definitely the best tv has to offer, even better than Oz on occasions.
kentucky colonel by dudemandude	Dec 6th, 2007 03:32:44 PM
dude that's easy, Snot.
kentucky colonel p2 : return of the bucket by dudemandude	Dec 6th, 2007 03:44:43 PM
Snot Boogie if you wanna split hairs.. but yeah there it is
Anyone else catch The Wire prequel videos yet? by AvonBarksdale	Dec 6th, 2007 03:49:58 PM
They're up on Amazon's page for the 4th season DVD's. The one where Bunk and McNulty meet for the 1st time is great. HBO if your listening I will gladly buy a straight to DVD Wire movie every year if you make them and I'm pretty sure so would every other Wire Fan here. So think on that. The have been a lot of great shows on TV, but none as good as The Wire. Best show ever made.
The Wire is one of the best TV DRAMAS of all time. by Derek Wildstarr	Dec 6th, 2007 04:02:47 PM
Also included in that statement is BSG, LOST, SHIELD, RESCUE ME, SOPRANOS and MANIMAL.
Bodie's Death by Boxcutter	Dec 6th, 2007 04:33:48 PM
Inevitable. Like Slim Charles says in S3 to Cutty: "The game the same, it just got more fierce." And since another would-be kingpin (in this case, Marlo) is in the ascendancy, Avon's lieutenants are among the casualties. Barksdale's short time is done, cue next batch of harder, equally dispensable corner boys. I think you can locate the Bunk/McNulty apartment scene by keying in The Wire and Fuck on YouTube. Still rivets you, doesn't it?
Avon, I posted the links further back... by Cameron1	Dec 6th, 2007 05:07:28 PM
They are just a little thank you to the fans from the creators. And they are great aren't they?
Bodie dying in season one would have been lame by MrEkoLetMeLive	Dec 6th, 2007 06:02:07 PM
In seasons one through three, Bodie was a diehard soldier who gave everything he had to the game. He was so devoted to it he didn't think twice about killing one of his best friends. After the dissolution of the Barskdale crew and being out on his own Bodie came to realize that there truly was no honor amongst thieves and that he'd wasted the majority of his life thus far. Sadly that realization came too little too late for him. Thus the power of what happens at the end of season four. Killing him during season one would have completely lost the point of the character's arc on the show.
Those prequels were awesome by MrEkoLetMeLive	Dec 6th, 2007 06:12:44 PM
I was wondering if we'd ever get to see No Heart Anthony.
not one of the best shows on tv by waggy	Dec 6th, 2007 06:13:26 PM
just the best. period. if you've seen seasons 1-4 (god, especially 4) you know that there is not a single other television show that has even approached the level of craft and social relevance that the wire has. it depresses me that the ratings are so low, but with the way shows are kept alive on dvd today, I'm confident the show will grow with time. i'm almost grateful for the writers strike, because once season 5 starts, that's it for me caring about anything else on tv.
"Point Taken" by GravyAkira	Dec 6th, 2007 06:43:24 PM
Well said Russman and Boxcutter. And sorry for not abbreviating Marlo's line a few post up."No matter how many times you get burnt, niggas keep doin the same." - the late Bodie
Cameron1: Thank You by MGTHEDJ	Dec 6th, 2007 07:41:37 PM
Oh, those are great!! And thank you Ed Burns and crew.-----later----m
Wait, because it's realistic it's automatically beneath a sci-fi by Lenny Nero	Dec 6th, 2007 07:50:22 PM
The staggering amount of imagination and insight of "The Wire" is simply awe-inspiring. No, it's not a fantasy world, but by that logic, the Wing Commander movie is better than Mystic River. (?)
...automatically beneath a sci-fi series?" by Lenny Nero	Dec 6th, 2007 08:00:24 PM

"...automatically beneath a sci-fi series?" by Lenny Nero	Dec 6th, 2007 08:01:11 PM
That was the rest of my subject line. I was not making a statement that it's beneath a sci-fi show. I was questioning that statement.
You can't read all of it by toshiro-solo	Dec 6th, 2007 09:31:26 PM
but at least it's a nice start. Seriously, this is SO worth reading if you're a fan of the show... http://tinyurl.com/2dwgcb
I shouldn't have watched the little prequels. by CatVutt	Dec 6th, 2007 09:44:16 PM
Now I'm twice as anxious for the new season. The Prop Joe was great, that kid had him nailed. Might have to follow suit with DK and watch the other seasons from the beginning.
Thank Fucking God! by Wrecks	Dec 6th, 2007 11:36:37 PM
Only thing that has been remotely entertaining this season so far has been Curb.. and thats over. Bionic woman is ok, but so is a glass of piss in a desert. Heroes can suck my sack, such a waste. Daisys can suck it too.. weak. No Lost, No BG, No Rome, no Deadwood.. But the Wire in 1 Month = Fuck Yes!
Bodie has another name by HarrysNemesis	Dec 7th, 2007 07:39:56 AM
I would say the Wire is the best show ever... but it has to take a back seat to another show the actor who played Bodie was on when he played an even better character. That show: Another little HBO gem called FUCKING OZ!!!!!! I like Bodie, but he will always be Bricks to me!!!! Sheeeeeeeit!!! I hope the return of Oz bodes something better for the new year for HBO -- used to be Sunday night was HBO night. I haven't liked any of their new 2007 shows. Bring back OZ -- that show was the shiz-nit!!! NOBODY FUCKS WITH QUERNS!!!!
True story by HarrysNemesis	Dec 7th, 2007 07:40:48 AM
I earlier emailed a friend after seeing a story about X-files 2 saying 'you are going to shit your pants when you read this' -- after I read about the wire I sent him an email saying 'Now I shit MY pants!!' TMI?
Obviously by HarrysNemesis	Dec 7th, 2007 07:41:50 AM
I meant the return of the Wire in my previous talkback... I can only dream they'd bring Oz back ;)
Life by HarrysNemesis	Dec 7th, 2007 07:42:31 AM
Best new show of 2007.
Friendship Test by Olsen Twins_Fan	Dec 7th, 2007 08:42:26 AM
If a friend of mine hasn't seen the Wire, I ask him/her to watch the 1st season. If the friend loves it, great. If the friend likes it but doesn't keep watching - I know that our friendship is going to be limited. I haven't had anyone hate it, but a guy I've known since grade school didn't get all the way through season 1, and I now like him a little bit less than I did previously. And people who post comments about the merits of the Wire having only seen about 1/4 of the episodes are missing the point entirely, and should really go away.
Yea by HarrysNemesis	Dec 7th, 2007 09:05:34 AM
What is up with the people who keep saying 'yes, i've heard the wire is great and i'll get around to watching it someday'... there seem to be a lot! I'm still trying to get my best friend to watch since the first season. I'm now trying to talk him into a DVD marathon pre-season 5 to get him into it
The Wire IS better than Arrested Development by Jack D. Ripper	Dec 7th, 2007 10:36:35 AM
Different qualities aside, you CAN compare vastly different media, as Saving Private Ryan is better than The Empire Strikes back neither of which is better than Casablanca.
TESB > SPR, Ripper 0/1 by Mostholy	Dec 7th, 2007 11:05:02 AM
But Saving Private Ryan isn't better than The Empire Strikes Back, so your point doesn't make any sense. :p The lousy, mawkish bookends alone knock it down to Return of the Jedi level. All I know is I'm glad I live in an age that gives us both The Wire and Arrested Development. If I had to pick one, I'd pick the former...but that doesn't mean I don't love me some Bluths. Finally, thanks for linking those prequel shorts. I saw 'em on Amazon when I was buying S4 for various people for Xmas, but assumed they were some fan-made, Youtube kinda thing. But, no, there's Bunk and McNulty.
Olsen_Twins by Mostholy	Dec 7th, 2007 11:08:11 AM
I too now use lack-of-love of The Wire to weed out the less interesting people around me. And when I meet anybody else who's ruthlessly evangelical about the show (in my experience, about 75-80% of the people who've watched S1-4), they're immediately on my cool list.
I do not find it hard to say that... by Somerichs	Dec 7th, 2007 11:37:33 AM
The Wire is better than Arrested Development and Carnivale. You could combine them into one show and call it Arrested at the Carnivale and it still wouldn't be as good as the wire...
When THE WIRE is on TV... by -guyinthebackrow	Dec 7th, 2007 11:51:35 AM
It is the best show on TV.
I can say without question that... by DeadPanWalking	Dec 7th, 2007 12:43:02 PM
...Season 4 will absolutely, positively blow you away. It's maybe the best series season ever made. You'll laugh, you'll cry. Literally, with no hyperbole.
Use of music in The Wire... by Somerichs	Dec 7th, 2007 12:56:20 PM
Is yet another of the many reasons this show is so good. Man, the whole montage in the season 4 finale (it was the finale wasn't it?) that's set to Paul Weller's version of "I Walk On Gilded Splinters?" Riveting, I was glued to the screen. A car could have come crashing through my kitchen and I don't think i'd've even noticed...
What a Birthday Present! by The Funketeer	Dec 7th, 2007 12:57:46 PM
It premiers onDemand on my birthday so I know what I'll be doing. After this season, I'll probably end up dropping HBO. I'd have done it sooner if I hadn't been waiting for McNutty to return but I don't see anything on their upcoming schedule that really interests me right now so Bye Bye HBO.
I saw by cocolopez	Dec 7th, 2007 01:38:38 PM
the ad today gracing the NYC buses and I got chills. GOAT. Indeed.
I hear ya, Funketeer... by Somerichs	Dec 7th, 2007 01:46:39 PM
After The Wire, not much else left on HBO, is there? I'll stick it out til Entourage ends or becomes unbearable, but with The Wire done (and props to HBO for giving it the full 5 seasons), Deadwood & John From Cincinatti canceled, there's nothing else much left to interest me, although if they happen to start up another Milch project soon, as I thought I heard, i'll stick around for that. I'm a sucker for a Milch show...
Ashok0, genre doesn't matter, at least to me. by Lenny Nero	Dec 7th, 2007 02:00:48 PM
Either it's good or it isn't. Really it's just a sliding scale of whether or not you enjoyed it and/or if you recognize brilliance. In that sense, you can definitely definitely definitely say The Wire is just as good as Battlestar Galactica and vice versa. Why separate your loves into sections? It's all good, baby.
There it is EWG, there it is. by Cameron1	Dec 7th, 2007 07:35:38 PM
Perfect encapsulation of why the show is so damn brilliant. Season 5 looks like it's going to be even better than the rest, Bunks look of shock about some shady dealing in the trailer has already got me on tenterhooks. Bad and terrible shit is going to happen to characters I love this season.
The Wire sucks... by localhero12	Dec 8th, 2007 12:00:52 AM
No Stargate Atlantis 07 Finale TB? Not cool.
Nothing bad about Prison Break by Sick Fixx	Dec 8th, 2007 01:07:14 AM
Not too high brow, not too low brow. They cram so many plot twists, so much character development into each episode that it's amazing they haven't run out of material.
I realize it's cool to hate PB on Aint it Cool by Sick Fixx	Dec 8th, 2007 01:07:59 AM
Because Harry dedicated one talkback to its pilot and hasn't mentioned it since, but come on, people. You're allowed to think for yourselves.
Best show of all time? by Sledge Hammer	Dec 8th, 2007 05:22:20 AM
I don't know if I'd go quite that far, I mean Oz, I, Claudius and a handful of others are all right up there too, but for my money The Wire is definitely the best show of the past few years, and certainly the best show currently/still on air. And unlike many shows, it just seems to get stronger and stronger, I mean season 4 was, for my money, probably the best season yet. Regardless of the hyperbole, it's a great show that deserves much more praise and attention than it gets. No Emmys for The Wire? Sheeeeyiiiiiiiit... Can't wait for Season 5.
Wire beats ABC/BSG for writing by HarrysNemesis	Dec 8th, 2007 01:20:45 PM
The Wire beats any show on ABC hands down -- the only show that comes close is Lost, and it is better for the twists and drama than for the writing. The Wire is a far better written series. And ask anyone I know and they will tell you I'm a big BSG fan, but BSG is not as well written as the wire. Just as enjoyable a show, and I probably look forward to watching them about the same, but not as well written. Life is the only thing on TV at the moment that comes as close to the well written dialogue as on the Wire. I'm not talking about overall plot but dialogue
I need The Wire season 5... by GravyAkira	Dec 9th, 2007 02:52:11 AM
to start right now. "You know what a life is Jimmy?"
Cajun Style by crapspakkle	Dec 9th, 2007 11:02:37 AM
Completely OT, why no love for 30 Rock?
That statement... by Tourist	Dec 9th, 2007 02:13:21 PM
...Is more proof of what a retard Kevinwillis is.
Its not about realism. by Tourist	Dec 9th, 2007 02:28:56 PM
The wire is just a better show in every regard than BSG. Or anything else on TV. Including Dexter, Sopranos and all that other filler they pump out. Regardless of wether its a fantasy world or a depiction of a real city, its more dense, interesting and better produced than any other.
Heh, Tourist, that kevinwillis comment is so true. by Cameron1	Dec 9th, 2007 03:01:03 PM
It's not that everyone who doesn't like it is dumb, it's just that KW and people like him hate it because it tells the truth and they can't see it because they are that fucking indolent when it comes to anything that they find uncomfortable in terms of their SEVERELY limited worldview. But really, he's just not worth bothering with. Hell I only went back and read his post because I saw you refer to it. Ah well.
DEXTER by Spasmoyltic	Dec 9th, 2007 08:57:23 PM
Is he going down this season?
Sobotka Lives by La.Cucaracha	Dec 9th, 2007 11:10:43 PM
When Sobotka has Horseface steal the departments new surveliance van then ship it to different ports and have pictures taken at the different places to send to the police chief? That is great copmedy.
Only 10 episodes? by Alonzo Mosely	Dec 10th, 2007 01:10:47 AM
Every other season is 12 or 13, I am being short changed... I just hope the show lives on in someway after this season, someone mentioned DVD movies once a year, which would be great, but an unrealistic hope. However with so many talented writers involved in the show, maybe some books to continue on the stories...
OZ by Got Dat WMD	Dec 10th, 2007 03:54:39 PM
Oz was a damn fine show, but it got ridiculous in later seasons (in particular, I recall Cyril O'Reilly being given some sort of experimental serum that made him rapidly age, complete with bad makeup, plus the stuff with Dr. Nathan/Ryan O'Reilly was mostly all unwatchable crap). The Wire has only gotten better with each new season, giving it the definite edge. If anything, the only show that comes close to the Wire is Deadwood, in my opinion, but Deadwood got cut short, so The Wire scores a TKO on that front.
Damn by KristianUK	Dec 10th, 2007 05:04:02 PM
Im gonna miss The Wire and Deadwood.
No argument by Screwbini	Dec 10th, 2007 07:36:05 PM
I'm not even going to argue about whether The Wire is the best television series ever. IT IS - END OF ARGUMENT! Now on to Season 5. I just got my complete Season 4 box set, and I'm watching every episode again to get ready for Season 5. Good to know that Barksdale is coming, but sorry there's no mention of Namond and Randy. I really feel for those characters, and I would like to knoe their fate. However, life is not tidy and neither is The Wire - that's one of the things I love about the show.
Yeah, by Tourist	Dec 10th, 2007 08:15:08 PM
...Deadwood built upon its seasons. The Wire has been exellent from get go though. Also...Man, Deadwoods ending was atrocious. Pretty much negated everything that came before. Oh well.
Screwbini by Jack D. Ripper	Dec 11th, 2007 02:17:18 AM
It's been confirmed that Namond and Randy, in some capacity, as well as Colvin, will return in 5. And yes, Avon Barksdale returning is news for celebration.
Love this show...they should put it in a ... by Lost Skeleton	Dec 11th, 2007 10:00:27 AM
time capsule if America continues to go to shit losing its middle class and ignoring the lower class and its problems. What impacts urban America will eventually impact us all. Anyway, I hope HBO puts this show in HD this season and the Academy has the balls to nominate and give the win to this series. Don't just throw it a bone like the Emmys did with Star Trek The Next Generation a few years back. The Wire and Battlestar Galatica are the best damn shows on television.
Jack D. Ripper by Screwbini	Dec 11th, 2007 06:25:23 PM
Thanks for the update about Namond and Randy (and Bunny!) That is welcome news.
To Lost Skeleton... by Madbomber	Dec 12th, 2007 01:58:44 AM
The Wire will never be broadcast in HD. I think this came up prior to season 4 in an interview with Simon, but he said that he didn't want to alter the canvas he had been working with for seasons 4 and 5. That means no HD and no widescreen.
Another fantastic scene.. by DanielKurland	Dec 13th, 2007 07:14:42 PM
Been re-watching season one, and the scene where a progressively drunk McNulty tries to assemble bunk beds for his kids IS nice, but the scene in the episode after Greggs is shot, and they listen to the recording of it and McNulty vomits. Then, Rawls approaches him, and tells him how much of a jackass he is, and how he is just "a gaping asshole", but how this isn't his fault, because if it was, he'd be jumping at the chance to make him feel like shit over it. It's just wonderful to see this character who hates McNulty so, so much actually want to comfort him and show compassion.

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