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Whoa! New Joker and Batman promo pics from THE DARK KNIGHT!!!

"Love that Joker" by Spifftacular Squirrel Girl	Dec 2nd, 2007 07:49:14 AM
Batman still looks a little robocop-ish but I do like the grey in the costume.
Batman's cowl is almost identical... by Dolph	Dec 2nd, 2007 07:51:41 AM
...to the Batman Forever one. At least as first glance.
Ledger IS Joker. by American Mythos	Dec 2nd, 2007 07:55:49 AM
That's all.
Creeeee-py by Yeti	Dec 2nd, 2007 07:57:37 AM
Imagine running into Ledger's Joker on a dark street at night.
Looks like someones trying to sell toys. by Knuckleduster	Dec 2nd, 2007 07:58:02 AM
Batman looks lame. What next? Robin returns?
Willy Wonka is in this one? by tonagan	Dec 2nd, 2007 07:58:44 AM
Seriously, though, if Ledger is as creepy as he sounds in the previews, I'll be scared.
Batman's head is still too fat! by Musicballs	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:02:03 AM

Batman Begins is overrated by Amadeo Zeller	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:04:20 AM
In my opinion, it was kinda boring and Christian Bale overly dramatic reading as The Batman, with that cheesy whispering was silly...And the last half hour completely falls apart.
I don't understand the thrill of Batman pictures by Bobo_Vision	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:05:04 AM
Actors wearing make-up or the bat costume. So what? The best thing about the new Batman series is the story, acting, and directing. So I will always find photos underwhelming. And Ledger is extremely overrated as an actor, so I hope he can pull this off.
All good stuff! by IAmMrMonkey!	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:07:06 AM
I have no problems with these pictures at all. Ledger looks fine there and i'm sure Batman's costume will look great when it's set against the darkness of Gotham. Bring on The Dark Knight and fuck off to the haters!
So between Nolan and Burton... by greenstyle92	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:07:25 AM
How did the Nolan Joker end up being the more Goth-inspired one? Who're they trying to impress? lame-os who are always bragging about how cool horror movies are?
Ok, I was wrong about the armor. by I Dunno	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:13:58 AM
When the first pics came out I defended the armor but I was wrong. It's totally gay. Well, not Schumacker-gay but gay.
The stark white background by TruPhan	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:14:04 AM
makes these promo pics awful.
Over-the-top joker has been done to death... by SantiagoAtez	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:14:16 AM
...I was hoping for just a normal psychopath (pardon the oxymoron) without all the bright colors.
Okay, about the Bat outfit by malificus	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:14:30 AM
It's just too much. See that lighter grey tone on half the chest plate? The whole outfit should be that color, with black accent, like te cowel, cape, gloves, boots. Get rid of all the little plates and straps and simply have the outfit be that grey mesh you can see under all the stupid straps and plates, which obviously make it hard for bats to move! Light copper belt also looks like shite,should be dark copper, like a penny. SIMPLIFY!! Joker looks perfect.
WOW! by VERY METAL	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:15:51 AM
I can't wait!
can someone with Photoshop... by SantiagoAtez	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:18:32 AM
...put a roll of Mentos in Batman's hand?
Never understood the bright gold belt by Spifftacular Squirrel Girl	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:18:52 AM
Didn't they get rid of the yellow oval on his chest becauze it wasn't very stealthy? So why keep the belt some bright color? It's like he wants bad guys to shoot at his crotch or something.
I agree, TruPhan... by tiredpm	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:19:03 AM
...the white background (and full lighting) is lethal for that kind of promo pic. Especially the Batman shot, it just looks awful.
White background by Harold The Great	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:19:34 AM
That's amazingly stupid. Great costumes and make up, and then some moron just slaps them on a white background.
looks stupid by jivatmax	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:22:40 AM
I'm tired of sequels and redos and unoriginality.
Mixed by MartinX	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:28:03 AM
The flat lighting in these shots isn't flattering to either costume, but my pseudo-movie-vision can see how they'll look infinitely better under grim, grimy, Gotham lighting. I must say, these are the worst shots of the Joker I've seen, and I've loved everything so far, in the one where he's holding up the cards he looks like he's wearing bad old school theater "aging effect" greasepaint, rather than psycho-clown-from-hell paint.
Alex Kane from AntiProduct... by Billy The Fish	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:29:33 AM
...really ought to be contacting his lawyers about now seeing as how Heath has stolen his make-up! Check out www.antiproduct.com if you don't believe me!
It's all about performance and cinematography. by Dokkalvar	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:31:29 AM
The Batman suit has always looked like crap, even end game or whatever that cheesy Batman short was called, but it's always been digestible with the right amount of shadow. I think the Joker doesn't look that great, but if his character is more like Kakihara from Ichi the Killer then we're all likely to buy the look.
THE SUIT by THE KNIGHT	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:34:50 AM
It looked terrible in the new BTS video with Al Roaker but the suit itself looks much better for some reason in these pics. Probably the angle..... In the video it looked like Bats had a large alien head. I'm trying not to judge the suit till I see it in the context of the film but so far I'm 50/50 on it.... Joker looks great.. People need to remember that Nolan is playing up the psychopath joker. This Joker would make 89' joker cream his little panties!
Uroloki by Brendon	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:38:53 AM
Good work. Again.
JOKER by lagomorph	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:40:43 AM
I like Heath as Joker. He's schluppy. He's got kind of a degenerate slacker vibe about him. Unlike Nicholson who played Joker like some kind of wealthy gadfly eccentric.
WOOH HOO HOO, DELICIOUS !!!!! by Keith Maniac	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:44:21 AM
I'm really happy with the direction they've taken here with the Joker. All the colours and sartorial elements are on the nose, yet the disfigurement is a little bit more in the real world.
AWESOME! by johnnylong	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:49:44 AM
that is all....
Joker selling soap. by The Visco Kid	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:49:53 AM
Like he is all refreshed and happy and about to begin singing the praises of Irish Spring soap. "After a hard day of fighting off the Batman, nothing gets me cleaner and smellin' like a bunch o' roses, than an ol' bar of Irish Spring soap. Faith and begorrah!"
Diggin on the whole 'Metal Gear Solid' Batsuit by KillaKane	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:52:44 AM
Gonna look the biz onscreen, as indeed will the Joker, Nolan's going to serve up another slice of perfection!
That bat suit sucks bat balls! by alienindisguise	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:53:42 AM
It looks like a shitty action figure design. Way dissapointed!
Ledger's Joker still looks like crap. by TheGhostWhoLurks	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:59:57 AM
The guy looks like the elderly Joker from Dark Knight Returns... DRUNK! Sorry, but you can't put badly-bleeding clown makeup on a mediocre, balding actor and get The Joker. This is one casting mistake that can't be fixed, simply by having blind "faith in Nolan." I have faith in my ability to smell crap when someone tries to tell me it's filet mignon.
The Batsuit looks like it was designed by by I Dunno	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:04:57 AM
a Hollywood costume designer. A gay Hollywood costume designer. Okay, that was redundant. But really, under what circumstances would Bruce Wayne design something like that? The Batsuit is for stealth and to intimidate criminals, not to make them think he's fabulous. And the bright yellow belt is stupid, unless he wants to get shot in the junk.
It's Bibleman! by Bubba Gillman	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:12:32 AM

MEN'S GREEN VESTS 50% OFF THIS WEEKEND by CreasyBear	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:15:22 AM
Last Joker pic looks like a newspaper insert ad.
Joker looks fine. by Knuckleduster	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:18:32 AM
I'm just a little concerned with how he's gonna sound. Can Ledger pull off that psycho laugh? Hope they got Mark Hamill for some vocal coaching.
Joker's spectacular, Bat's face looks sculpted... by pipergates	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:20:24 AM
don't like the armor too much...too power-rangery.
Still looks good. by rbatty024	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:23:32 AM
One of my most anticipated of 08. Ledger looks more interesting as the Joker with each new picture, and the armored batsuit is a pretty kick ass idea.
So is the Joker's smile cut or isn't it? by I Dunno	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:26:05 AM
The very first picture they released it's obviously cut but in most of the others is just looks like makeup.
Well done, DerLanghaarige....everything is better w/ Mentos! by SantiagoAtez	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:26:43 AM
Damn straight.
Batman Ends by Mace Hindu	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:30:31 AM
Really, could someone just have ended this series before it started. Batmen Ends was a TERRIBLE film. Christian Bale IS the weakest Batman EVER and the story and villains were pethetic and laughable. Oh and if I misspelled anything above let me know. Thanks. shakes head at computer screen in dissapointment at all of you for liking Batman, turns computer off and fires up a bowl to forget about it.
Batman is in this movie? by Catnip_Thieves	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:33:38 AM
Holy fucking shitpotatoes, I had no idea!
bahahaa! by foree forehead	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:35:16 AM
bahahahaa!
It's nothing like that Batman and Robin shite suit by KillaKane	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:38:32 AM
The pictures are brightly light for clarity and detail, I love all that maesh and kevlar plating and the Judge Dredd style buzzknux, it's design by function and not that far removed from the last film - it's all in the lighting people, he's going too be saturated in blacks and shadows onscreen. Ok I'll concede the belt appears goldenly gay in that photo, and yeah it's not anodised matt black for a reason, mainly due to it being heldback from the comic/graphs, but it was intended to be a lighter more reflective colour so that old Bats could access his kit in the dark a bit more readily. Think about it, if he's all cowelled up and ready to break out the bat thermos during a nocturnal stake-out he couldn't see shit downstairs if it were an all black ensemble! The belt colour contrast enables him to look down and get a grip on whatever he needs! On film it'll look like a dark worn gold and less gay. A plain old rubber suit with sculpted musculature just does'nt have enough detail to translate to the screen, it's a similar rationale that's applied to designing a NPCs in next gen games, the clarity in design and execution of the texture/bump mapping etc brings out more detail, definition and enhances the sense of realism. It's more akin to Solid Snake and the US Military Stealth Suits that are no longer fictional design folly but practical 21st Century TAC Armor.
Disappointed with Batman costume. by Buckys_Kick_Ass_Arm	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:39:03 AM
It's not scary. He doesn't look creepy, scary or intimidating. He looks like a secret soldier dressed with a bat helmet. Joker's fine.
wow... how exciting... I'm thrilled... speechless... by JDanielP	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:39:53 AM
I can hardly wait... for that "IRON MAN" flick.
Of course the outfit is impractical... by malificus	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:40:15 AM
.. and I'm not advocating changing the basics at all. This is early Bat Man, Year One-style so in the interest of reasonable comic book accuracy the outfit should be grey with black, not bitch-whining about stupid little details or complaining just to complain, all the straps and buckles little plates are too damn much, although I do reaize that once they make the set dark as hell and get someone who's clueless about shooting action, which most photogs are, it will all be a black, indecipherable blur anyway and won't matter. Everything in the costume could be made logical if he used them for a specific purpose or simplified them somewhat. The cape doesn't need to be 12 feet long like in the comic, what works visually on the comic page wouldn't necessarily in a movie. Wasn't it the comic that had weights in the pointy tips of the cape and he used them to whip perps in the puss? I'd like to see a smaller cowel with stubby, drawn-back ears like in the really early days, like what you see with The Bat Man cartoon. Check out Bat Man Year One and you can see exactly what the outfit should look like, Mazzuchelli's(sp?) even drawn the wrinkles where they'll be, light, airy, functional and cool as hell. Point to the comic and tell the costume guy: "I want THIS, or you're fired." and watch the good things happen.
Dig up Cesar Romero! DIG HIM UP! by Aquatarkusman	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:43:11 AM
I always liked that if you looked closely, you could see his mustache underneath the white make-up.
Santiagoatez and Mentos by Pariah74	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:45:42 AM
Does html work in these posts? Hope so.
Judgement Day by Lord Nerd	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:46:26 AM
I am banishing all of you to the land of suck. I am
*** Holy booby traps, Batman! Nice Bra! *** by JDanielP	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:46:38 AM
That's what it looks like, which makes it better suited for Batgirl. And nipples would have REALLY set it off.
Guess not. by Pariah74	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:47:13 AM
Then go here, Santiago. http://tinyurl.com/22fnte
Magic Wands and Rim Jobs by Lord Nerd	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:49:43 AM
What does the Joker and Dumbledore have in common?
Fuck Photoshop In Its Stupid Ass by Harry Weinstein	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:56:46 AM
White background is for easy replacement. Got a feeling these pictures are destined for use on ancillary merchandise. The Batman one in particular screams "BUY MY ACTION FIGURE! POW!!" Bat-Costume is a bit on the Bat-Ridiculous side. All it's missing are the nips.
Joker looks aces, though. by Harry Weinstein	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:58:15 AM
Heh.
Okay, the Mentos idea was.. by malificus	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:59:06 AM
..great, and the pic just bears that out. Can we now have a huge gallery of these? I'm betting on dildo being about pic #3, if that long.
SAW A PRIVATE SCREENING IN NY by guerillakarma	Dec 2nd, 2007 10:02:07 AM
Only a third of the visuals were finished and only 25 minutes of the movie was actually edited, but I can say it's the best Batman film of all time.
HAHAHAHA REMINDS ME SOME PROMO PICS FROM ... by ludmir88	Dec 2nd, 2007 10:06:36 AM
BATMAN FOREVER!!!!!:(
Where's the Joker? I see Marilyn Manson as a street bum. by JackPumpkinhead	Dec 2nd, 2007 10:08:51 AM
The Joker is dapper. This jackass is wearing a bad and filthy coat, hideous boots, complete with something that looks like a greasy mop on top of a balding head. I reiterate - where's the Joker?
I'm pretty sure by Turd Furgeson	Dec 2nd, 2007 10:11:27 AM
those pics will end up being put on a different background... Those are probably just proofs for marketing tie-ins or advertisers.. Take it easy fellas, it'll be great...
Joker's smile is scarred, not so much cut by kafka07	Dec 2nd, 2007 10:15:52 AM
I dig Ledger's Joker, he looks like he's capable of mass murder (a good thing). And Bat's new duds are sleak, if a bit plasticy looking.
Awesome. Haters are losers. by Stormwatcher	Dec 2nd, 2007 10:19:31 AM
Like you won't love it. Although I preferred the Bat suit from the first film, in action I am sure no one will care.
The armor by Omar B	Dec 2nd, 2007 10:24:25 AM
Damn that's the best Batsuit I've ever seen in my opinion. It works with the direction Nolan's going and it's got enough visual, textural things going on so that it'll pop even more on the big screen.
Armour is overdesigned by Mistahtibbs	Dec 2nd, 2007 10:33:35 AM
I'm pretty sure this film is going to rock our worlds. Love the look of the Joker. Very...sick. However the Batman armour is overdesigned. Like they felt the need to put all sorts of straps and buckles and armour plates. Almost like they were planning the toy design instead. It just seems...impractical. Certainly for someone as damaged as Batman is. Anyway, still gonna love this, sight unseen.
Joker looks better than Batman. by mrfan	Dec 2nd, 2007 10:39:53 AM
Batman's suit looks way over the top. Should keep the one from the first movie. Nothing wrong with it.
Those pics suck. by rev_skarekroe	Dec 2nd, 2007 10:41:50 AM
Not the designs so much, but the pics themselves.
Joker as Kurt Cobain & Marilyn Manson's LOVE CHILD?? by Otter	Dec 2nd, 2007 10:52:24 AM
No thanks Nolan, keep your "street person" Joker. I want the megalomaniac, sharp-dressed, psychotic Clown Prince. This guy looks like Beetlejuice after graduation from Ringling Bros. Clown College.
Looks great! by Magma Suit	Dec 2nd, 2007 10:55:21 AM
I'm still not sold on the Robocop/Metal Gear batsuit, but I'm sure on film it'll look fine. Joker looks AMAZING.
Haters hate all you want...your ass just got spanked. by Teh Suk	Dec 2nd, 2007 10:56:28 AM
I LOVE the shit -fer-brains that post with their smart ass comments. You make me laugh. Laugh like the Joker. When your imagination pants get pulled down and your sore ass loser ass gets spanked by teh awesome next summer, no one will cry for you.
COWL IS DIFFERENT! by messi	Dec 2nd, 2007 11:02:37 AM
watch the today show vid and you'll see how different it is, sure the face bit is the same, but the neck bit is gone, and i don't like it. I loved the thick beast like look in begins.
BINO!! by foree forehead	Dec 2nd, 2007 11:06:16 AM
as good as javier bardem?? NCFOMINO!!
That's what I meant, scarred by I Dunno	Dec 2nd, 2007 11:08:16 AM
I didn't mean to imply that his smile was actually cut like the dude from Itchi the Killer. But in some pictures it looks scarred and in others it just looks like lipstick.
by Cosby	Dec 2nd, 2007 11:10:02 AM
ThePilgrim, So more or less your Dad is a homophobe. Does he hate them thar niggers as well?
Yeah by Cobbio	Dec 2nd, 2007 11:10:03 AM
I dig the look of both characters. Batman looks badass and determined in his augmented suit, and Joker looks creepily insane. Should be a hell of a showdown.
Bale is about 25-30 lbs. less muscular by picardsucks	Dec 2nd, 2007 11:10:50 AM
suit looks baggy on him. One of the things that really worked in the first film is that Bale really looked like Batman in demenor and more importantly bodytype. He was muscular and lean now he is just lean skinny Batman in muscle suit doesn't work for me. I hope it does well I am not a hater i loved the first one but Bale should have gotten the "assistance" he used on the first one to grow back his Batman muscles. You know "personal trainers" like the "personal trainers" the cast of 300 and the WWE uses.
Typical Batman Talkbacker: I have shit fir brains by Teh Suk	Dec 2nd, 2007 11:11:27 AM
I have shit for brains. I criticize because I am such a rebel I go against the grain. Whatever the collective sentiment is, I say the complete opposite because I am a rebel. Yes, I am a fat fuck with no girlfriend and I live in a dorm room, even in the summer, but I know movies. I have been watching them all my life, therefore I know everything. Pardon me while I jack off to pictures of pregnant Christina Aguilera. Okay I am back...what was I saying...oh yeah, I can speak because I know what the finished product is becuase before it's been finished, I saw it in my head. See, so therefore my opinion matters.
Giddy Seaman? by AaronJoseph	Dec 2nd, 2007 11:23:22 AM
I am confused as to why no one has posted about Harry's insistence on this hilariously awkward persona he's given himself.
Looks like a high school kid dressed up as Joker by cyclo	Dec 2nd, 2007 11:23:57 AM
and going to a Halloween costume party.
Nicholson/Keaton white background pics looks 1000x better by GibsonUSA	Dec 2nd, 2007 11:28:49 AM
C'mon, you gotta admit. regardless of your opinion on 89 Batman, these new pics look goofy and stupid.
KISS-Joker by Pipple	Dec 2nd, 2007 11:32:23 AM
So he's just some nut in make-up. Way to go Nolan.
Nicholsons Joker sucked by Your Moms Box	Dec 2nd, 2007 11:34:58 AM
Ledgers Joker sucks. He looks like hes in slipnot, he looks like a kid at a halloween party, Batmans suit looks like its from metal gear. Write and direct your own Batman movie then. Bunch of whining bitches around here. Dont see the movie when it opens either, although I'll bet my left sac that you'll all be in fucking line on opening night. Pussies.
Oh and Joker looks as fat as nicholson by Pipple	Dec 2nd, 2007 11:35:11 AM
WHAT THE FUCK
Pilgrim, your Pops is a secret pedophile. by Teh Suk	Dec 2nd, 2007 11:35:39 AM
You'll find out when he dies. There's a stash of nasty kiddie porn he's been keeping since you were old enough to have "playmates" come over. He's even looked at you cock-eyed a time or two, though you mistook it for being "proud" of you.
Love how the Pilgrims pop has black friends by Stormwatcher	Dec 2nd, 2007 11:40:22 AM
that instantly makes him cool eh? Hey everyone look, I know black folk! Boom chaka I am awesome. There should be a review of his dad's life, it would go like this "I just met Pilgrim's Dad, -He's AWESOME" I bet your dad love the movie Patton doesn't he?
nitpickers, all of you by thejflo	Dec 2nd, 2007 11:48:50 AM
Relax.
I like these shots by eXcommunicated	Dec 2nd, 2007 11:49:01 AM
Sue me.
I knew that batman pose was familiar by Pipple	Dec 2nd, 2007 11:50:34 AM
http://www.movieposteraddict.c om/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/ mpabatmanforeverrobin.jpg It's like a flip shot of robins. Wb's just putting out another disposable batman film, folks. I called it first.
These look like costume test shots... by Kubla_Khan	Dec 2nd, 2007 11:50:47 AM
...not promo pics.
Batman looks by zooch	Dec 2nd, 2007 11:52:18 AM
way tougher in that suit than he has ever before, it's especially better than the super-gay anatomical suit. Instead of painted on muscles he has real armor, and he can also move his head around this time.
i dont like bat's belt... by Judge Briggs	Dec 2nd, 2007 11:52:58 AM
gold, eh
It's freakin' Beetlejuice, come on! by wintocha67	Dec 2nd, 2007 11:53:05 AM

....How else are they supposed to look? by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Dec 2nd, 2007 11:56:17 AM
Go back to your brightly colored superhero adoloescent power fantasies, you fucking nerds. I'm guessing the people who bitch about Begins/Dark Knight are the ones looking forward to the Justice Fags of America fighting some bullshit alien menance, and bitching about how they'd BETTER get Superman's tights right or they are NOT getting your money pal (except it doesn't matter what they do, your a worthless piece of shit with no will power anyway, maybe if you recite Green Lanterns mantra you can summon the courage to think for yourself)
The head looks big because by Turd Furgeson	Dec 2nd, 2007 11:57:28 AM
there is no big neck piece anymore. the suit is now functional and he cam move his head fully around. And if Heath Ledger looses any more hair, they are going to need a joker wig.....
Wow - a retro "Batman Forever" batsuit by RobinP	Dec 2nd, 2007 12:00:29 PM
Uh...why change it from the one they had last time. Okay, maybe it's got something to do with the plot...but I just hope they're not going the "we've got to have X number of different suits so we can sell Y number of action figures" route to pander to the kiddie crowd. Seriously, that suit look a hell of a lot like the "batsuit with sonar modifications" Val Kilmer wore when attacking the Riddler/Two Face base in "Forever" and we all know that's NOT the way to go here.... Joker looks amazing though.
Want a sharp-dressed Joker? by zooch	Dec 2nd, 2007 12:06:15 PM
Pop in '89 Batman. Check out the Prince scene.
Ugh. by yesiamaplant	Dec 2nd, 2007 12:09:14 PM
They're lucky people have faith in the production, because these designs do not look good with such harsh lighting. They did the same thing with Batman Begins, and it almost made me afraid to see the movie. Cut it out!
Looks nothing like the Forever suit RobinP by zooch	Dec 2nd, 2007 12:15:01 PM
The Forever suits were anatomical, TDK suit looks like body armor.
They must be spending a fortune on marketing.... by Forestal	Dec 2nd, 2007 12:25:01 PM
I hope TDK's a big hit so they can make they're money back.
I never knew by Rufferto	Dec 2nd, 2007 12:26:40 PM
I never knew how balding Heath Ledger was until this movie started up. Or is it supposed to look like that?
I too also can't wait by Rufferto	Dec 2nd, 2007 12:29:56 PM
for Iron man.
What the deal with the Batsuit? by Olee Starstone	Dec 2nd, 2007 12:32:22 PM
It looks like a toy or something. ''Deep sea Batman'' lol
I like it by damned-dirty-ape	Dec 2nd, 2007 12:32:30 PM
Haven't been sure up to this point, but i think in the right sort of lighting, these are going to look good. Batman was never meant to look good in daylight and even though Ledger looks a bit like Caesar Romero without the tasche i think this Joker is going to be one twisted son of a bitch.
Batmans Suit by dab	Dec 2nd, 2007 12:33:10 PM
The suit makes sense if we are following on from the first film where Bruce Wayne borrowed prototype designs from his company hence the semi-military look.
Can we all just admit that these pictures look TERRIBLE? by Proman1984	Dec 2nd, 2007 12:35:08 PM
Batman in particular is quite awful.
FUCK OFF, ASSHOLES!!!!!!! by Robots In Das Guys	Dec 2nd, 2007 12:38:11 PM
The pics are awesome, especially Batman.
So, will we get a % of all Batman-Mentos merchandising? by SantiagoAtez	Dec 2nd, 2007 12:38:38 PM
I see a future in this.... It's about as stupid as Transformers and Mountain Dew, so c'mon, it's not implausible!
The Joker shots look like something WB shot for a Halloween stor by axelfoley	Dec 2nd, 2007 12:39:37 PM
Will we be seeing those duds in Target at a suggested $130 retail? I did like Batman Begins, it resuscitated Batman on the big screen and was a score for DC in their attempts at rivaling Marvel's film adaptations. I get that. But is it a written code that in every fucking superhero film sequel there flat out HAS to be changes to the lead's costume? I say this because Batman looks like Schumacher was brought back on board as an advisor. I agree with the poster who said it looks like they're trying to sell toys. That's basically the reason they do that with comic movies anyway; to cash in on kids wanting the upgraded action figure. This movie and Watchmen--should the Dawn of the Dead guy not fuck up--which im sure he will--will definitely be two more scores for DC. And no im not keeping fucking score in a notebook, im just a movie guy who read comics as a kid and "gets into this shit".
that shot of Joker with the cards by RockLobster800	Dec 2nd, 2007 12:44:22 PM
is awful, cos Heaths face is all wonky-rest of them are class though. I dig the bat suit-yeah, it looks a bit Schumacher-esque but lest we forget, he aint directing. White background id definatly a shame though-roll on this trailer on december 14th!
Generic shots for their toy line by Bob of the Shire	Dec 2nd, 2007 12:46:36 PM
I'd bet money on it. And why is Bat's belt gold?
must be fucking cold in Gotham by RockLobster800	Dec 2nd, 2007 12:48:11 PM
with the amount of layers the Jokers wearing:over coat, jacket, waistcoat and a shirt underneath-the guy must be boiling!
Lee Press-On Two-Tone Boobs by chromedome	Dec 2nd, 2007 12:50:41 PM
totally disconnected from the suit itself--pretty lame stuff, and the two-tone stuff is ludicrous
WAIT--maybe the light grey parts are... by chromedome	Dec 2nd, 2007 12:52:19 PM
air bags, or water-triggered inflating flotation devices! stay outta the rain, batman
Every bit of the Ledger casting still makes me hate it... by jimbojones123	Dec 2nd, 2007 01:05:27 PM
And every bit of the Ledger casting makes me hope I'm wrong. As always, time will tell.
Bale in Terminator 4 by chromedome	Dec 2nd, 2007 01:11:35 PM
http://tinyurl.com/yu9fka
bat's costume reminds me of batman & robin by Lloyd Bonafide the Korean War Veteran	Dec 2nd, 2007 01:14:51 PM
without the neon colors. Joker reminds me of Jack Sparrow.
I CANT QUIT YOU BATS by wille WEINERFACE	Dec 2nd, 2007 01:19:29 PM
ledger was in brokeback mountain
What is this crap? Dude has white make up and red lipstick and g by Kraken	Dec 2nd, 2007 01:20:16 PM
What kind of villain is this? What is he some kind of clown? What's with the stupid looking purple suit. Jesus, whoever came up with this villain is scraping the bottom of the barrel. Batman should be fighting sweet monsters or something, like mud monsters, or a giant beetle or something sweet instead of some dude that looks like a deranged clown. What kind of idea is that? At least give him some sweet shark teeth or something.
School-boy Batman?!? by Ranakai	Dec 2nd, 2007 01:26:34 PM
I'm still not a huge fan of the new bat cowl. "Begins" had a bigger neck for the mask, and with this new mask, the neck substance is completely gone. I believe it was Bale himself who, back in "Begins" said he liked the costume, because it was big, and made him look like a "panther." The new suit leaves the shoulder-neck area lookingly rather gangily and young, like a halloween costume. Oh well, still badass. Just hope they can cover it up with darker lighting or something.
TOO SILVER? by vini77	Dec 2nd, 2007 01:33:32 PM
Hmm
New and improved Batman with Homeless Joker! by blondeman	Dec 2nd, 2007 01:40:34 PM
Seriously! Seriously? That's what it is? The Batman suit looks like one Schumacher might have commissioned...too much going on. And the joker looks like he has been living in the sewers with Penguin for the last 10 years. I hope it works out in the end, these type of pictures make it really damn hard to tell what they are gonna look like on the big screen, I remember the original XMEN pics coming out with the same out of place white backgrounds and they too looked horrible, but that flick turned out ok.
ThePilgrim's Dad=ThePilgrim by Freddie Mercury	Dec 2nd, 2007 01:50:19 PM
He's just embarassed he's a 50 year old divorcee who gets no play and lurks the Batman talkbacks. It's okay, dude, there's still room in this world for homophobic, bigotted elderly gents. Join the Kid From Brooklyn's myspace! He's like eighty and he still calls himself a kid. Don't hide your old-fashioned manly-man opines behind a persona!
If Batman prefers... by Almega	Dec 2nd, 2007 01:54:57 PM
...to strike fast and then vanish, with the occasional intimidation factor (much like in Begins), then why would he go to such trouble to add all of the contour and detail to his suit?
YEAH MUH'FUH'UH!!! by SeXX ED	Dec 2nd, 2007 01:57:02 PM
Bring forth THE DARK KNIGHT. They've GOT this... trust.
My quick photoshop contribution by Kingdaddy	Dec 2nd, 2007 02:07:28 PM
http://tinyurl.com/2vnfyd
I see shadows of Batman Forever by CuervoJones	Dec 2nd, 2007 02:13:03 PM
in that bat-suit.
Batsy and the joker by Thall_Joben	Dec 2nd, 2007 02:16:01 PM
Looks great to me, I like the layering on Batman's gear, it looks like police webbing. The costumes look just fine, performance and script will be everything as usual. We'll see eh?
really by christpunchers2007	Dec 2nd, 2007 02:20:53 PM
was batman begins THAT good? I found it to be awesome the first 2 times but afterwards I cannot stand to watch the whole movie again. They played it safe and Nolan didn't really take any risks with the film. Christian Bale, though good, was really too "cheesy" most of the time, too much heroics and not enough self doubt. The final battle was not that interesting, asides from a few action scenes. I'll still watch TDK the day that it opens, but I really don't like the way the suit looks... it's too cyborg like, should be made darker, all in one really black tone.
Wow... by Tourist	Dec 2nd, 2007 02:35:52 PM
...Lame photos? Not having a dig at the actual characters themselves, but these look like promo shots for a Kmart halloween costume range or something. Must be make-up or wardrobe tests or something.
Bat's costume is a real depature ... departing back to Schumache by riskebiz	Dec 2nd, 2007 02:39:47 PM
I don't understand why Batman costumes have to look like sculpted rubber suits. I thought the last movie was a really tiny step in the right direction, but this looks 3 steps back.
Bat's costume is a real depature ... departing back to Schumache by riskebiz	Dec 2nd, 2007 02:39:51 PM
I don't understand why Batman costumes have to look like sculpted rubber suits. I thought the last movie was a really tiny step in the right direction, but this looks 3 steps back.
You all shall EAT YOUR WORDS... by CENOBITE	Dec 2nd, 2007 02:41:07 PM
Batman's costume doesn't look like that in the film due to differences between onset and studio lighting as well as the difference of film sensitivity. DUH. You all will eat your words when you see his ... wow, what a bunch of whiny morons on this talkback. Really, did someone put a link from the IGN forums to here?
Agreed with riskebiz... by Pawprint	Dec 2nd, 2007 02:56:20 PM
the Batsuit is getting all a bit 'Batman and Robin' for me...
The Joker doesn't look gay! by Kingdaddy	Dec 2nd, 2007 02:59:13 PM
http://tinyurl.com/25najq
The Joker doesn't look gay! by Kingdaddy	Dec 2nd, 2007 02:59:27 PM
Or does he??? http://tinyurl.com/25najq
I'm not laughing... by Frankenbastard	Dec 2nd, 2007 03:01:51 PM
This looks as bad as I expected it too, sad really. It looks like a Broadway version of Batman. You guys can’t seriously say this looks great. I can see everyone’s eyes getting shifty right now looking at your buddy next to you “um... i...er...i...i think it looks good, don’t you?” “uh...yea...this kicks all sorts of balls and stuff” Yea it kicks the balls alright. I can’t wait for Hellboy 2 and ya know why? Because Hellboy looks like fucking Hellboy and Guillermo Del Toro respects the source material!
Plus, in the 2nd and 4th Joker Pics... by Pawprint	Dec 2nd, 2007 03:02:53 PM
He looks like he's trying to be Caeser Romero - which doesn't fill my soul with hope. Or my hole with soap, come to think of it...
Say what you want about Batman: Dead End... by DocPazuzu	Dec 2nd, 2007 03:05:41 PM
...but the cowl was better than anything the big budget movies have come up with so far. It wasn't really a cowl so much as mostly prosthetics molded to resemble a cowl. The result is something which really looks like the comics, is exceedingly flexible and doesn't make the actor's face disappear. You know this to be true.
WELCOME WAL-MART SHOPPERS!! by TheDohDoh	Dec 2nd, 2007 03:07:02 PM
Is it just me or is Heath too ugly to play the Joker? I know that sounds weird, but he doesn't scream COMIC-CRIME LORD ICON to me. Like someone else said, these look like an expensive offering from a Sears costume catalogue or worse, like shitty tourists doing Batman-related cos-play. THIS IS OFF. DON'T KNOW WHY. IT JUST IS. ADMIT IT.
TheDohDoh by Frankenbastard	Dec 2nd, 2007 03:11:35 PM
Well said man.
Pilgrim's dad sucks donkey pole by Magma Suit	Dec 2nd, 2007 03:23:24 PM
I don't know why I typed that. It seemed like such a good idea at the time.
Face it... by damned-dirty-ape	Dec 2nd, 2007 03:29:15 PM
If Batman looked exactly like he did in the comics or dead end, with a single grey layer, he'd look a twat. I'm pretty sure i'd shoot at the guy just wearing a shirt than the guy wearing armour. The suit will look good. I think they are going for the Arkham Asylum style joker in this one, and he was pretty fucked up. I for one am looking forward to thid movie
Torn on Joker's hair by crayon	Dec 2nd, 2007 03:30:22 PM
sometimes I like it, but in these it looks too hobo'ish for me
1989 Batsuit > This. by GibsonUSA	Dec 2nd, 2007 03:31:10 PM
Who shall deny?
TheDohDoh by GibsonUSA	Dec 2nd, 2007 03:33:30 PM
Yeah thats what I've been feeling and trying to put into words. Heath is playing an icon but he doesnt seem to have that X-factor that pulls it off...looking at Heath doesn't scream CRIME BOSS ICON. He looks more like a henchman that Batman takes out halfway through the movie.
I like the suit. I like the Joker. by DOGSOUP	Dec 2nd, 2007 03:34:10 PM
60 Mil opening weekend.
Batsuit...too engraved. by Anna Valerious	Dec 2nd, 2007 03:40:50 PM
As for the Joker...wow, remember when Heath Ledger was HOT? I was hoping for another hot Batman villain (First being Cillian Murphy as the Scarecrow), but he's not quite hot. Then again, he's not supposed to be. Though it does beat that Tonner doll of the Joker. Not very good.
first! by ironic_name	Dec 2nd, 2007 03:43:31 PM
damn!
Leger's Joker looks great, but... by GalactusZ	Dec 2nd, 2007 03:47:20 PM
...not crazy about Bale's RoboCop look. But Dark Knight is gonna rule anyway.
TOO ENGRAVED! by ironic_name	Dec 2nd, 2007 03:49:19 PM
sorry, Anna Valerious. I've been defending joker's look, but the photo with his mouth ajar is slightly.. off. maybe the old guy wrinkles will be less prominent in the movie.
Ok, Ok...last one by Kingdaddy	Dec 2nd, 2007 03:49:58 PM
Just tried to darken things up a little, and got rid of the shitty white background choice. http://tinyurl.com/2ujqqe
Looks Perfectly Perfect! by FILMFUNK	Dec 2nd, 2007 04:08:22 PM
And you know the director's got the nuts and the funds so why bitch unless you could cum up with something better which isn't likely now is it!?
batmans got a bra on by shogunshin	Dec 2nd, 2007 04:09:30 PM
oh man, batman begins was good, UNTIL he put on the batman suit. then, it was blurry action all the way thru, which ruined the movie for me. (why even bother to have the stunt men choreograph a fight scene, if you are going to shake and move the camera so fast, you cannot see what is happening? typical american action director bullshit. watch some hong kong action flicks.) anyways, batman has a bra on here. and how come the joker's skin stops being white from the neck down? if chris nolan REALLY liked batman comics, then respect the material. this movie is going to suck.
Batman looks like a Skechers shoe by spidermanfreak20	Dec 2nd, 2007 04:09:34 PM
I understand he is comfortable but he is not scary. Comfort should come second to being scary. Its the reason he is a bat to begin with. Otherwise he would just look like Shocker or be Pillow Man. Plus it'sthe dynamic between Joker's silly to Batman's scary. Everything people feel about the Joker (psycho, loose cannon) people should feel about Batman (especially criminals)
You know, ThePilgrim... by Freddie Mercury	Dec 2nd, 2007 04:15:10 PM
I don't know what's funnier: the fact that you profess to besome kind of staunch uber-hetero and you've mentioned cock using various euphemisms and synonyms than ANYONE on this talkback, or that you actually googled what you googled to make your little "cowbell and piss" image. You wouldn't happen to be a big Pantera fan, would you?
wheres jokers mustache? by dr.bulber	Dec 2nd, 2007 04:26:47 PM
nothing says psychotic better than jokers mustache.
Old Comic Con Batsuit Guy by Anakin Whoopass	Dec 2nd, 2007 04:31:01 PM
No matter what you do, tights make you look like Adam West. http://www.louanders.com/uploa ded_images/Batman-706327.JPG The problem is that people assume that looking like Adam West is a bad thing. Adam West's costume was not incorrect. If Christopher Reeve had played Superman for laughs people would say, don't look like Christopher Reeve, even though he looked exactly how Superman was drawn.
heath by rourke777666	Dec 2nd, 2007 04:31:56 PM
ledger is an amazing actor and there is no way he will let us down. no way.
THE JOKER NEVER HAD A HANGOVER FROM TIJUANA by TheDohDoh	Dec 2nd, 2007 04:38:34 PM
Seriously, there is a big difference between being a psychopathic, deformed criminal kingpin who likes to dress up like a demented jester and runs a gang and an all-and-out drunk leper like they're going for here in these pics. Most serial killers like Jeffrey Dalmer and Manson looked out to lunch, but they weren't rotting per se. Joker has to be mentally capable of running a complex criminal element in one of the hardest-knock cities in the country. The guy can afford proper green dye for his hair and proper white paint for his face. I don't care if it fades later on, but we haven't seen a starter pic for Joker and I doubt there is one. On the otherhand, Batman looks too much like the goddamn Punisher or something - he's like a Blackwater mercenary or something. If anything, I think Batman should look a little scarier this go round (it is the DARK KNIGHT afterall) and the Joker should look a little more professional. It's fine to be crazy as fuck, but you can connote that via facial expression and behaviour, not by making the costume as ragged as possible. To me, Batman has always been a ninja-type avenger, not some shit out of Project Grizzly, if you catch my drift. When I see Batman, all I think about is the "architecture" of his suit - I don't get any "holy shit, this guy is dressed as a bat and might be nuts" vibe that I was hoping they were going for here. Say what you will about Tim Burton's version, but Nolan is relying too heavily on Burton's Batman instead of making his own. In my opinion, going against the Joker always make Batman lose his mind a little - he has to get on that mind plane to compete and conquer. This costume is designed so that he can within hardcore gun fire and a grenade. Just because Bruce Wayne is a gazillionaire doesn't mean the guy has to be suped up like a goddamn action-figure. The whole point of Batman is that Wayne's is a little nuts and uses Batman to channel his demons while doing good. Back to Ledger, I just don't feel like the guy is a crime boss here. He's losing his hair and he's got forehead wrinkling and he looks like he slept in a trashcan. Compared to the villians in Begins, he doesn't seem together enough to be a viable adversary.
follow-up by TheDohDoh	Dec 2nd, 2007 04:42:30 PM
and when i say green dye and white face paint, i mean the filmmakers. obviously, the joker took a dip in the chemical swimming pool, but that doesn't explain what we're seeing here.
HORRIBLE!!!!!!!!!! That's not the Joker!!!!!!!!! by Orionsangels	Dec 2nd, 2007 04:45:12 PM

tommy lee jones is a superior actor to heath ledger by Pipple	Dec 2nd, 2007 04:45:39 PM
nuff said. I'm not holding my breath.
Give the Joker a goatee. by mrfan	Dec 2nd, 2007 04:46:52 PM
Add on a unibrow and I might like it.
Here we go let's mess with the Batsuit again by Orionsangels	Dec 2nd, 2007 04:47:01 PM
Let's make it look like armor and sell action figures. It's slowly becoming batman forever. can't wait till they add the nipples
Just give him fake boobs and he'd be Transsexual Joker by GornPirate	Dec 2nd, 2007 04:55:19 PM
Not impressed.
TWO DIFF. JOKERS : SERIAL KILLER VS CRIME LORD by TheDohDoh	Dec 2nd, 2007 05:01:25 PM
Where Nolan is fucking up with the Joker is in his misunderstanding of the character - borrowing from the two incarnations of Joker in the comic. Originally, Joker was a deranged serial murderer that would fall more in line with Heath's depiction and costume thus far. Where the problem lies, is that we've already seen pictures of the heist using Joker's henchmen in the film, and thus it is clear that the Joker in TDK will be the crazed criminal kingpin who plans complex operations and has plenty of men at his disposal. Here is the PROBLEM: You've got to choose one or the other, you can't mix and match and say: Well our Joker is both a mentally fucked serial killer and a badass mafia-like kingpin of Gotham and Batman's most fierce chess-like adversary. That's impossible. No leper (as Michael Caine has referred to the Joker/Heath in TDK) can run a mob-like organization. But Nolan is so obsessed with his "dark" take that he does it anyway. A PG-13 film can't show a rotting serial killer dressed up like a clown, so Nolan compromised and made him a rotting crime leader. It doesn't make sense, judging from the pics and plot we've seen and heard.
The Pilgrim and his dad both hate gays by Bobo_Vision	Dec 2nd, 2007 05:10:11 PM
They hate them so much that on weekends they drive around in their pick up truck looking for guys wearing brightly coloured clothing or gel in their hair, and then they hold them down and fuck them in the ass to teach them a lesson while yelling, "Take that you faggots!" They specifically hate good looking men for trying to turn people gay with their beguiling beauty, so they rape them whenever they can...to teach them a lesson as well. When they're not doing that, they are online bitching about men's fashion and costume design...for being too gay.
@leobloom by TheDohDoh	Dec 2nd, 2007 05:15:53 PM
Ha. Okay, so in your opinion there is no such thing as a "great Joker" and a "mediocre Joker" because the director rules all and we must accept whatever he dishes out. That's obnoxious and pretty much against the entire premise of this website. How many rants and arguments have you seen on AICN for everything from Michael Myers to fucking Alvin and the Chipmunks? There is a correct/awesome way to do a character and then there is a way to do it that involves not fully grasping the source material/movie logic. In my opinion, Nolan is mixing the two best known incarnations of the Joker into one entity/costume, and I am explaining that this doesn't work. I have no doubt that TDK will be successful, and of course, I wouldn't write all of this if I didn't plan to see it. What would be the point of that? However, I see Nolan tweaking a character for his own vision in a way that will ultimately be a letdown to the potential he set with Batman Begins. The Joker should have the entire Web going apeshit with excitement. Instead, even sites like JoBlo are surprisingly skeptical about the pics we've seen thus far. There is a reason for this. Nolan's JOKER SIMPLY FEELS OFF AND STYLISTICALLY ASKEW.
DK BATSUIT: Giger's ALIEN costume + Mask + Cloak by The_Hypnotoad	Dec 2nd, 2007 05:18:07 PM
... without the alien head, of course.
Batsuit stfu by BurgerKing	Dec 2nd, 2007 05:21:22 PM
Yeah, it's changed, but it's not a big enough change to complain about. Remember the realism theme, it's not fucking spandex with the fake abs they put in Halloween costumes, it's a suit of fucking armor. Like it or not, the suit isn't a big enough reason for you to go "FLOPP". get over it.
TheDohDoh, Joker was always a goofball by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Dec 2nd, 2007 05:29:07 PM
I love how people talk about how originally, Joker was some deranged serial killer that would make Hannibal Lecter need a night light to sleep or whatever and why can't these inferior directors live up to the Jokers TRUE character, but really, it's all bullshit. You, my friends, are seeing these comics through some glasses that I think might be tinted uh, a rose color if I had to guess. He's a fucking comic book character, much less one for the 30s or 40s or whenever, Yeah, in the beginning he killed people, then in the 70s tonned him down for awhile, but even when he was killing people he was a goofball. Because that's what comics are, fucking goofy, anything better from back then and it's your imagination. I remember when I finally got around to reading the much hyped Death in the Family storyline, and it's just some goofy bullshit with Robin getting killed in Saudia Arabia or some shit and Joker becoming an ambassador to the UN. Fucking Stupid. Batman has always been an awesome character/idea and a shitty comic.
Yeah, Burgerking, realism in an "armor" with pointy ears & cloak by The_Hypnotoad	Dec 2nd, 2007 05:29:42 PM
It's just my predjuice, anyways. I can't stand all the superhero's "suit" thing. Amazing stories kinda ruined for me watching the "heros" in illogical disguises.
TheDohDoh, you proved my point by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Dec 2nd, 2007 05:31:29 PM
Anyone who thinks there is a correct way to do "Alvin and the motherfucking Chipmunks" is deranged and living in the rose tinted past. That shit is stupid people.
TheDohDoh, you proved my point by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Dec 2nd, 2007 05:31:30 PM
Anyone who thinks there is a correct way to do "Alvin and the motherfucking Chipmunks" is deranged and living in the rose tinted past. That shit is stupid people.
@GuyWho by TheDohDoh	Dec 2nd, 2007 05:36:31 PM
Get over it. People argue about the Predator's costume everytime a new movie appears or argue about Jason Vorhees (what, no Kane Hodder! Gohd, life is a bitch!). I'm not digging this Joker for a number of reasons thus far. Of course, there is no set definitive portrait of Joker, besides green hair, a purple suit, and a bleached face. But guess what, I don't dig how those traits are depicted here, so deal.
@Guy, why even patron the Talkbacks? by TheDohDoh	Dec 2nd, 2007 05:39:47 PM
If you're so fuckin cool that no film or character depiction has ever bothered you and at least made you want to discuss what worked or didn't work, then why are you here? You're like the guy at the house party who wants to sit in the corner, and then if you start conversation, you start talking about the Iraq war or how people are stupid. Fine dude, be THAT guy. Jesus.
hahahahah by wattos new hat	Dec 2nd, 2007 05:48:48 PM
he looks like shit in these pictures. i hope his acting fixes this fact. i have faith but i'm not convinced that he can pull it off, i'd like to see his hair pulled back or just combed, it looks stupid, and i'd have to see him do the grin.
About "The Definitive Batman"... by rbatty024	Dec 2nd, 2007 05:52:19 PM
There is no definitive Batman character. Take a look at the comics and you'll see how much the character has changed over the years. This isn't a bad thing. it is because Batman is malleable that he has lasted for seventy years. If he didn't change they he wouldn't be around. There are some core elements to Batman's character (the death of his parents, ideas of vengeance, his aristocracy, etc.) and it is how each writer handles these core elements that makes the character. I like it when writers/directors take wildly different approach because it can show us a different side of the Batman character. Having the killer of Batman's parents caught brought a whole new dimension of Bruce Wayne, which we have not seen before in film. I liked the Burton films but they were Burton's Batman as much as these are Nolan's Batman. They are not definitive and once you expect the final word on Batman you will immediately be disappointed. My personal favorite version of Batman is the Dini/Timm animated series, but I know that I'll always have that and I don't expect a movie to fulfill those preconceived notions.
The reason these photos look shitty... by Lucasblows	Dec 2nd, 2007 05:53:00 PM
...is that they are slapped on a white background. Once you see the Joker on film under the proper lighting, no one will be disappointed.
BTW, here's that doll I mentioned... by Anna Valerious	Dec 2nd, 2007 05:58:44 PM
http://tonnerdoll.com/dcstars. htm Hell, they did a better job on Aquaman. AQUAMAN.
TheDohDoh... by raw_bean	Dec 2nd, 2007 06:06:32 PM
...the teaser trailer dialogue didn't make it sound like Nolan's joker was going to be a mafia boss, but a crazed serial killer hired by the mafia bosses.
Batman's wearing Alicia Silverstone's Batgirl suit... by pokadoo	Dec 2nd, 2007 06:11:18 PM
...from Batman & Robin! Check out those Bat-Paps!!
looks good... by travis-dane	Dec 2nd, 2007 06:13:22 PM
but will there be enough space for the 15 inch gun in his pants?
The Irony of the Situation Just Hit Me... by MMacKK	Dec 2nd, 2007 06:28:24 PM
Fuck, I'm slow. The whole reversal of good/evil thing only just hit me, as I looked at these pics, with the dark, evil bat symbolising the good guy, and the fun, joyful clown representing evil. I didn't see that in Batman 89 for some reason. Surely that's a good sign for TDK...Or a bad sign for me...
Niiiiiiiice by Cletus Van Damme	Dec 2nd, 2007 06:38:57 PM
I am a little worried that in a clip I saw, Bats neck looks sorta skinny
MMacKK by IAmMrMonkey!	Dec 2nd, 2007 06:46:32 PM
It's a bad sign for you I'm afraid as that's been a rather obvious feature of the whole Joker/Batman relationship for years. Although.. ..it could also be a good sign in that you're not geeky enough to have thought that much about the world of Batman like most of us. So hurray for you!
Cool, but... by Ironhelix	Dec 2nd, 2007 06:48:01 PM
as mentioned already, the stark white background is really jarring. The batsuit is way too busy, and the poses look like they will end up on the side of a super-sized beverage, or a happy meal. I am not a big fan of Batman anyway, and these shots aren't winning me over. I think Joker looks fine though.
Cletus Van Damme by IAmMrMonkey!	Dec 2nd, 2007 06:48:07 PM
I heard it's because he hasn't been sleeping recently. Apparently he ran over a kid in his Batmobile and now spends most of his time gazing into space at Gotham airport.
"Who are you?" by TheRealSeveren	Dec 2nd, 2007 06:56:23 PM
"Someone like you. Someone who'll rattle the cages." "uhh...you just said that..." "Oh...well...its not what I say that defines me its... "yeah, yeah, yeah..." I would like someone a little taller and slimmer for the joker with a wide grin but what do I know I thought Danny Huston would make a good joker. By the way, I respect all of you.
Why do these designers feel they need to by ewokstew	Dec 2nd, 2007 07:00:02 PM
lavish tons of detail on something to make it look cool? Simple, strong shapes and forms. The batsuit looks ridiculous. Period.
I agree ewokstew... by TheRealSeveren	Dec 2nd, 2007 07:10:53 PM
Maybe if they paid them less they wouldnt overthink the costumes so much. If they offer something simple and classic its as if they think theyll be scolded and fired. The Batman: Dead end suit followed the comics but was too much of a throwback for a feature film. This looks like something a sadistic member of Blackwater would wear as he mowed down civilians whilst scrolling between "Let the bodies hit the floor" and "Kill em all" on his ipod shuffle.
If these pictures prove anything... by TheRealSeveren	Dec 2nd, 2007 07:12:35 PM
its how important the gaffers and set designers are to a production.
Action figure pics... by jfp2007	Dec 2nd, 2007 07:14:01 PM
These are promo pics for action figure creation purposes. There are pics of Keaton and Jack in costume on stark white backgrounds and those were for the same thing. This is done for every movie that has a toy tie in.
Joker's coat.. by jfp2007	Dec 2nd, 2007 07:15:21 PM
It's obvious he has a regular coat under the long, zoot suit coat. However, is it separate from it or is the smaller one sewn into the longer one? In the coat swaying pic, it looks like it might be.
The Scarecrow by zooch	Dec 2nd, 2007 07:21:52 PM
just wore a potato sack over his head. That turned out alright.
Love The Joker Coat by Saluki	Dec 2nd, 2007 07:24:49 PM
The Batman here is really the only batsuit I'd even imagine putting on. All the other suits were just smooth plastic looking oddities, but this looks like a piece by piece Metal Gear thing, which I'm digging.
These are better than the Begins promo pics. by Saluki	Dec 2nd, 2007 07:26:48 PM
Remember those cheap Begins posters? The ones that were all tinted green and junk? Not the actual theatrical posters mind you, but the kind they sell at K-Mart to kids with bare walls.
Someone mentioned Blackwater when referencing the.... by rbatty024	Dec 2nd, 2007 07:29:31 PM
Batsuit, but that's what I like about the suit, it looks military. It's armor plated, not just a metal vest with fake muscles (god knows why they used fake muscles). It looks like it both protects and allows for a wide range of movement. Now just ship him off to Iraq and tell him to kill anyone who "talks all funny like."
Joker looks geat! by zodiac1012	Dec 2nd, 2007 07:32:08 PM
While Batman's suit looks good but not great.
WHAT IS NOT AMAZING? by sevadro	Dec 2nd, 2007 07:33:25 PM
Why do you assholes always say something like that? You know you have no talent - so just shut the fuck up!
Definitely not the right tone for the movie. by I_Haz_Ball_Cancer	Dec 2nd, 2007 07:43:22 PM
These pics are WAY too bright. And I dont like how the Joker is really happy and bouncy. Hopefully these pics dont translate anything from the actualy film.
Why not put the cloth OVER the armor by Pipple	Dec 2nd, 2007 07:52:09 PM
How hard is it to do batman justice?
Ninjas don't need gay body armor by mayorofsimpleton	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:02:51 PM
so why does Batman? That thing is fucking lame, as it was in every movie before it. Why can't they take a leap of faith and TRUST the comics? This guy is an olympic level athlete, trained in everything from detection to escape artistry to martial arts to being a master of disguise. HE'S NOT IRON MAN, THAT'S THE POINT! He's the most bad ass human, that's why we are drawn to him...he survives on his wits, not his fucking kevlar. UGH!
punk band in the Dark Knight by BradPittEvilTwin	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:10:08 PM
They'll be playing at a club scene, I think. Check them out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =GRFFMF4sLg0
sorry wrong link by BradPittEvilTwin	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:11:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =GRFFMF4sLg0
why do they need to keep changing the fricking batsuit by Mr_X	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:12:27 PM
what was wrong with the suit in the first movie? its fricking marketing, aquabatman and friends. and its a huge pain in the ass. look for glow in the dark bats costume coming soon
I see what your saying mayorofsimpleton... by TheRealSeveren	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:14:22 PM
but you can be an 8th degree blackbelt and still not be able to stop a bullet. Realistically, one man no matter how well equipped would do well to protect himself when up against an entire army. Its Batman not Commando...
Again, I'm a moron by BradPittEvilTwin	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:14:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =GRFFMF4sLg0
Wonderful by Evil Chicken	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:20:10 PM
Nolan is mining in the mother load here. This is The Batman that I’ve always wanted. Now there are two psychopaths in Gotham – one dressed as a bat who wants to make things right and one the personification of comedy being tragedy. Nolan and Ledger will make the most frightening sociopath that Batman has ever faced come to life on the screen and I for one can’t wait. I get the feeling that Alan Moore’s “Killing Joke” was one of their treasured tomes while making this film happen… just a hunch. I’m there opening day, no doubt.
chiroptophobia v. Coulrophobia... by TheRealSeveren	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:21:32 PM
pretty much everyone has an aversion to bats but fear of clowns is alot more prevalent because it stems from childhood. Since Bruce Wayne's incident with bats happened when he was a kid that fear has taken the place of the more common fear of clowns. Whoo! Im droppin science!
chiroptophobia by zooch	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:24:13 PM
Fear of bats.
beat me too it the therealseveren by zooch	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:25:15 PM
nice wikipedia skills.
Makes me wonder about Freeze by The Chosen	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:25:31 PM
What would they do with Mr. Freeze? What are they going to do with Two-Face? How'd they do Harley Quinn, Penguin, Riddler, etc... It gets more interesting at each new info...
Mind changed about Joker... by ZeroCorpse	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:28:48 PM
But now I hate the Batman's costume. It looks awful. I get the "realism" thing, but this looks shitty. Joker, on the other hand, has managed to win me over-- So far. This batch of pictures changes my mind. He doesn't look like the shit-eating-crazy Joker from previous teaser pics, but like The Joker should; Sociopathic rather than psychopathic.
Oh, as for The Batman's costume's "realism" by ZeroCorpse	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:34:11 PM
THAT is realistic-- But it's what his costume should look like UNDERNEATH the outer covering. That thing looks like he forgot parts of his costume or something, and the gold belt is SOOoooo queer, and I don't mean "queer" as in "retarded" (I dislike that use of the word) but Queer, as in homosexual to the fabulous max. It's like he's out looking for the perfect gold handbag to go with that belt!
The Batsuit looks like tactical body armor by zooch	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:36:32 PM
Like something the special forces would wear for tactical response. Google search body armor and you'll see what I mean.
oh I dont have to google search zooch... by TheRealSeveren	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:40:47 PM
because Im wearing tactical body armor right now. It is kind of a bitch to type though...
zom-bot.com you just described my... by TheRealSeveren	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:42:14 PM
step-father in perfect detail...
Two Face by zooch	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:42:38 PM
I bet Two-Face is going to look like he really got burned with acid on half of his face.
The Bat-suit is an improvement, but... by Dresh	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:50:00 PM
Look; Batman's costume should have been seriously overhauled for Batman Begins. Instead they basically re-designed the suit from the Burton/Shumacker films and then underexposed it in camera, so you couldn't tell what the hell you're looking at. I'm glad they're going more gray this time, but the details and straps are WAY over the top. It's really the wrong direction overall. But, ultimately, who cares? It's a minor quibble if the film is close to Batman Begins in quality.
hey I care Dresh...I care. by TheRealSeveren	Dec 2nd, 2007 08:52:31 PM
ok, not really. Hey, what would Batman's daimon look like? Guess it would be a bat...Id like to see Batman fight an armored polar bear actually...
The Chosen... by Anna Valerious	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:07:15 PM
Harley is supposed to be in the film. :)
re: dohdoh whatever by Larry Sellers	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:16:46 PM
The idea, given pretty explicitly in the teaser, is that the mobs of Gotham are disorganized after Falcone is sent to Arkham. They turn to The Joker (for some reason) for help...though there was also that spoiler about him holding the mobs' money until they kill Batman. Anywho, at this point the story details are fuzzy but The Joker is supposed to be exactly what you've described: demented serial murderer/kingpin of crime/nemesis of Batman. I don't see how any of those could conflict in the film. Especially if there's a transition into each.
HE'S BEEN USING BRAND X!!!!!!!!!! by Using_BrandX	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:20:21 PM
Batman's the best property WB owns! Well...maybe 2nd to Harry Potter(its debatable). But if done right, anything Batman is instant gold. Wanna boost up Smallville ratings?!? Put on Bruce Wayne! DC fans will start taking that show seriously again!!!
Sorry Heath, you're no Jack Nicholson by Darth_Nader	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:22:01 PM
You are NEVER going to be able to live down the comparison.
I just saw Dark knight by fishpillow	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:23:54 PM
at a small screening in Owenton, KY. It was AWESOME!
@larry / raw_bean by TheDohDoh	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:33:25 PM
You are correct raw_bean, and Nolan has stated that his version of the Joker is more serial killer (a la Joker in the first comics) than the "Killing Joke" deranged don. However, as we can see from the still image showing a large bank heist with goons in clown costumes/masks, Joker has a formidable crew working under him, rather than just him working solo and murdering people a la Patrick Bateman. Also, the Joker has been referred to as a leper on several occasions: at the end of the film, his skin condition is said to turn into a full-on pussy infection. This is an entirely new depiction. And personally, I don't dig it. As unhinged as Joker is, he isn't actually rotting. He should be a villian with longevity, even in Nolan's franchise and should not resemble motherfucking Darkman by the end of the film. I just disagree with Nolan's take so far, that's all. I have no problem with him being a mixture of Jokers-past, but I'm not convinced that this is a great take on the character, mainly the leprosy pisses me off. Also, there are few serial killers who run crime outfits, and in the comics Joker is rarely depicted as being both. He's usually one or the other. As for those arguing that I'm not the demographic, well I'm 20something, white, and male. That's pretty much in the demo for this film. That said, I think the negative buzz on Joker's appearance is building. Also, I think Nolan was told to spiff up the batsuit to sell toys. Look at the fucking batcycle for chrissakes. That thing is ridiculous and not practical. If Batsy jumps his batpod through that fucking waterfall guarding the batcave again, I might have to walk out.
pussy infection = puss-bubbling infection by TheDohDoh	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:35:40 PM
just to clear that up.
You people still don't get that you DON'T OWN THIS! by performingmonkey	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:37:56 PM
This is Nolan's movie, he can do what the fuck he wants. Batman's new suit is never going to be seen in that clarity in the movie. The Joker's look varies during the movie, and we won't be seeing him dancing around in front of a white background. I absolutely hate how all you cunts see these images and immediately judge the whole movie! 'Oh I can see now that it's gonna suck, the tone is just off, I hated Begins anyway!' Shut your fucking blowholes, idiots. You'll never direct a movie, let alone a Batman movie. You'll never be The Joker. You'll never get YOUR Joker onscreen (the one you masturbate over, the one who has an impossibly inhuman face that BELONGS IN A COMIC BOOK). Get a grip on your cock and jack off. Feel better? I hope so. Now make like a tree and get outta here.
HOW CAN NOLAN'S CAST BE SO GOOD AND MILLER'S SO SHITTY? by Live.	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:39:08 PM
DAMN YOU MILLER!
Hmm by MickXII	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:41:05 PM
Count me among the people saying these looks like shots to go on action figure packaging. But I will be counted in the "Bat bra" camp. Wouldn't he paint that suit black like he did in the first film? Of course, we've seen shots of the suit with Bruce standing by it, like in an underground bunker and it doesn't look as colorful. Have no fears, this movie will be great.
Oh, and DohDoh I fucking hope you DO walk out, I really do by performingmonkey	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:41:17 PM
Because you evidently rape your own hole with rolled up comic books on a regular basis.
Whoa, I just had a flashback of a flashback... by The Dum Guy	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:41:21 PM
Remember, in Batman Forever, when Bruce Wayne has the flashback of him trying to stop that one guy from throwing acid into Tommy Lee Jones' face... that was awesome.
The Bat Costume by jdl82	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:45:10 PM
Hey, let the Bat go through some different costume stages, alright? Last time we had rubber armor, and now we have another kind of armor. Bruce is trying, arright? Besides, he wasn't the one who made it anyway; that scientist guy did. The Joker costume looks fantastic, relatively speaking. He could use a haircut, though. Speaking of the Joker, I have a confession to make. When the first TDK publicity site came online, I was the one who quickly made a MySpace page with that same page title as my URL and set up a Joker page. For those of you who don't remember it, it was the one that featured the song "Mr. Sandman" in the background, a red smiley face for a photo, and daily blog entries that, honestly, I had to stop writing after only a few days because they were starting to affect my personality negatively when I had difficulty separting myself from the character himself. Having said that, I was amused when I later heard that Ledger was writing a Joker journal of his own to help him get into the part. However, I find myself concerned about his state of mind. I had to quit and remove the MySpace site after only about a week for the aforementioned reasons. I wonder how he's dealing with it, now after several months.
Jack Nicholson was not the Joker. by jdl82	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:47:02 PM
Jack Nicholson never played the Joker. He played Jack Nicholson in makeup. Just clearing that up.
Training Bra Batman by Demode	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:48:53 PM
Is it just me, or does the grey pecs on Batman's suit look like a training bra? I like the suit overall, but they should have gone either all black or all grey with the chestplate.
@Demode by TheDohDoh	Dec 2nd, 2007 09:53:52 PM
i agree dude. something about the new batsuit reminds me of putting two different kinds of chocolate cake on a plate (no homo, swear).
Really bad photo of Batman by Gozu	Dec 2nd, 2007 10:01:14 PM
I think that having Bale in that awful "POW" Adam West pose against a stark white background has more to do with people's reaction to the costume than the actual design.
Bat armor? bring the costume back to basics! by Orionsangels	Dec 2nd, 2007 10:05:44 PM
It reminds me of batman 4...wait i just threw up in my mouth
Re:skywalkerfamily by jdl82	Dec 2nd, 2007 10:07:23 PM
What about mecha armor? Would that be okay?
The Joker looks like a ZOMBIE Marcel Marceau by The_Hypnotoad	Dec 2nd, 2007 10:19:20 PM
And I'm not complaining in that comment.
It's not an armor... it's an exoesqueleton by The_Hypnotoad	Dec 2nd, 2007 10:21:16 PM

"EXOESKELETON" I mean by The_Hypnotoad	Dec 2nd, 2007 10:21:44 PM

THE JOKERS MOUTH... by Napolean Solo	Dec 2nd, 2007 10:29:37 PM
Should have been done like KAKIHARA's in Ichi The Killer. That would have been mad scary.
DK suit includes more pieces than a M.Bay's Transformer by The_Hypnotoad	Dec 2nd, 2007 10:31:17 PM
Even the glove have "parts" on it.
Now i get it!! The suit IS the Batmobile by The_Hypnotoad	Dec 2nd, 2007 10:33:51 PM
You press the chest bat and the gloves & boots turns into wheels!!
Joker shouldn't going down "there" if Harley has the period... by The_Hypnotoad	Dec 2nd, 2007 10:42:45 PM
Disgusting, I know, but funny.
thats not Heath Ledger by Kammich	Dec 2nd, 2007 10:44:42 PM
im pretty sure that's Rose from The Golden Girls in those shots.
Napolean Solo by Kammich	Dec 2nd, 2007 10:46:20 PM
in casino out is one of the best records ever.
POW by zooch	Dec 2nd, 2007 10:51:32 PM
here's mine. Adam West would be proud. http://tinyurl.com/2uf 43v
Indiana Jones and the Brokeback Joker by AntoniusBloc	Dec 2nd, 2007 10:54:40 PM

They ALWAYS screw up Batman by Hervoyel	Dec 2nd, 2007 11:00:55 PM
Seriously, Every single incarnation of Batman since the day movies and action figures came together to form the ultimate profitable symbiosis has been either totally fucked up from the moment it was conceived or well on it's way to being totally fucked up as soon as the sequel was greenlighted. The suit is always overdeveloped just like the big hardware (Batmobile, Batboat, Batplane, etc) because that's the crap they know will sell toys to rugrats. It's designed to be a toy and they change it with every version because if they don't then the kid will already have the toy and his parents won't have to buy another one. Why change the cowl when they made a point of saying in the previous film that he ordered something like 10,000 of them originally? What's Batman going to do? Scrap 9,988 of them because he thinks it would look better with ears set back a half-inch? Bruce Wayne won't be rich very long thinking like that.
The Robert Smith school of lipstick application by Dresh	Dec 2nd, 2007 11:01:11 PM
You know, Ledger was great in Brokeback, but that involved acting with the human puppet, Jake Gylllllllllhllllllllhhl. He'll really need to dig deep to share the screen with Bale; who'll chew him up like he did to Jack Hughman in Prestige. (They should have cast Ryan Gosling.) But, I'm rooting for Heath. Who knows; he may surprise everybody.
Im not say that im not gonna see this by ClockWorker	Dec 2nd, 2007 11:06:21 PM
but I was expecting so much out of BEGINS and I was horribley dissappionted. These pictures look terrible the batsuit is cool as hell but I wish they did something more toned down that wasn't all metal. It should be something flexible but protective expescially around the head, it should be made out of some new kind of tough fabric that the bat invented. I actually think legder can pull something off, even though I always thought reinventing this franchise was a little weird. Anyway these picures suck this movies probly gonna suck ur all fuckin homos that dream about batman mysteriously fucking you from behind and these new batman movies bullshit. You geeky fucks hate on Cameron movies and praise this crap. There's only about half of you on this site that know good film.
Two Batsuits, remember? by Dasher	Dec 2nd, 2007 11:07:25 PM
Did anyone read the interview with Nolan where he said that Batman changes his costume during the movie? And that the reason for the change is a major plot point? So I'm guessing that what we're seeing here is the second Batsuit. If the movie gives us a good reason why he's wearing it, people will have less of a problem with it.
"Re-designing the Bat-suit with Bruce and Alfie" by Dresh	Dec 2nd, 2007 11:16:08 PM
Actually, it would be great to see a scene or two where Bruce and Alfred discuss the different design elements of the new suit. Talk about Brokeback Mountain!... wait a minute. Isn't that what we're all doing?
I Like them... by BLEST	Dec 2nd, 2007 11:18:59 PM
They'r obviously promo pics for merchandise, and will look way different on film. TDK will be the best superhero film ever made. (to date) Count on it.
uhh by ClockWorker	Dec 2nd, 2007 11:37:27 PM
if your trying to start a gay little TB quarrel sorry I don't geek out homosexually. I'm sure you'll meet some one really special on one of these talkbacks eventually and you'll be very happy together. In the mean time your keanu reeves blow up doll is always there for you.
I thought so by ClockWorker	Dec 2nd, 2007 11:53:47 PM
you and neo have a good night
Blackwater by SakeDickens2006	Dec 2nd, 2007 11:59:36 PM
better be on hand shooting at Iraqi villagers otherwise I'm going to have to take a pass on what looks like a weak piece of crap and that's my honest opinion.
The right lighting will make everything better by odo19	Dec 3rd, 2007 12:10:30 AM
You guys need to stop bitching, the lighting will make everything look much better. Every super-hero costume looks like shit if you put to much light on it. Or at least every Batman costume does.
If going for a military tech vibe with bats... by Boober	Dec 3rd, 2007 12:13:26 AM
then they need to consult the military. I understand improved design functionality and the yellow symbol on the chest drawing attention from gunfire to the most heavily armored spot (a stretch but ok), but this needs far more Navy Seal, SWAT, and Ghost in the Shell and far less, well, let's just say less is more. As for the Joker - mute that sh!t. We know who the Joker is so don't "Howitzer" us with clown colors when one precise shot will get the job done. Again, less is more. Yeah for white bleaching effect in the background!
I am Batman by Mr. Nice Gaius	Dec 3rd, 2007 12:59:43 AM
You're wearing your gray, stretchy Batman tights/pajamas right now, aren't you? Yeah. Thought so.
is that Joker promoting Clairol? by aboriginal	Dec 3rd, 2007 01:05:49 AM
If I didn't know better I say he's pushing hair product and makeup and the Batman wants to clean your bowels and promote intestinal health.
He could have this armor UNDER his costume... by ZeroCorpse	Dec 3rd, 2007 01:13:11 AM
You know, like in the comics? He has Kevlar/Nomex as a foundation for his uniform, but he wears an outer covering (lycra, I believe) that has the coloring and bat emblem, and hides all the armor's patterns and electronic connections.
I love the "It's the Background's Fault" posts... by James Westfall	Dec 3rd, 2007 01:16:37 AM
How pathetic. It's not the lighting, it's the fucking costumes. Will darker lighting make the Joker look less like he's a refugee from the Dead Presidents movie who got messy with the lipstick? Or make his hair look like it wasn't combed with buttered toast? Will a colored background make Batman's suit look less like Tron and Robocop had a baby? No. Just stop now with blaming the backgrounds. Tits on a Nolan.
You mean we have a stupid yankee hick in a lead role? by J-Dizzle	Dec 3rd, 2007 02:35:05 AM
BAH! Damn you Hollywood!
Suits by templar	Dec 3rd, 2007 03:00:32 AM
I'm going to reserve my judgment until the movie actually comes out. In regards to Batmans suit looking "plasticky". You remember when all those pictures of the X-men outfits were shown on this site and they looked like something out of Elvira's S&M catalog. Anything that's (photographically) shot in that light, is going to look bad no matter what. Though in the movie, they looked more subdued. I'm sure, its going to be the same way in the Dark Knight. In response to the Jokers look. Listen, I've been a "die hard" Batman comic collector for a long time. Granted, Ledger doesn't look like the Joker image we all have in mind but that's okay. As long as the guy has a white face, a vicious grin from ear to ear,green hair and be a raving psychopath with a sick sense of humour, I'm fine with it.
Looks great! But disturbing. by artyfufkin	Dec 3rd, 2007 03:26:21 AM
Pleasantly surprised, eerily reminding of cesar romero...roll on July 2008!
STOP designing the batsuit by Sepulchrave	Dec 3rd, 2007 03:32:55 AM
We finally have a Batman who has the physical prowess to pull off Batman without padding and they're still forcing him to wear fake muscles. Batman is a ninja, not a tank. And I like Heath; i think he is a good actor and I'm sorry that they won't let him crack that lens-shattering grin of his in any of these pics; this is the Joker for Chrissakes; let him SMILE.
"Slam Evil!" by kiddae	Dec 3rd, 2007 03:36:18 AM
Why would anyone take that photo ever.
I have to agree.... by red ezra	Dec 3rd, 2007 03:37:08 AM
stop with the over designed bat armor - this joker could be fun - he has his work cut out for him that is for sure but nolan has my confidence to pull this off
dohdoh by catlettuce4	Dec 3rd, 2007 03:48:07 AM
nice condescending bull$hit. Read Joker's reintro in Five Way Revenge and you'll see the original hybrid serial killer / crime lord as the Joker returns to town and, one by one, kills his own flunkies. And then go fuck yourself in the mouth.
Whiners by dab	Dec 3rd, 2007 05:02:58 AM
I expect you to crawl back to your dark holes chastened and owned once the trailer hits in a couple of weeks.
Those costumes in context... by woodcutter1973	Dec 3rd, 2007 05:27:51 AM
I don't know if these are old photos but they're new to me. I think the costumes work. http://thedailybubbletea.com/2 007/08/18/images-from-the-dark -knight/
Or maybe you'd prefer a link that works....? by woodcutter1973	Dec 3rd, 2007 05:30:33 AM
http://www.firstshowing.net/20 07/08/16/holy-frickin-dark-kni ght-tons-of-new-batman-and-jok er-photos
can't wait to see the Joker in action by just pillow talk	Dec 3rd, 2007 06:46:01 AM
when the hell is that teaser coming?
Christian Bale will be star in Terminator 4 by indyjonez100	Dec 3rd, 2007 07:11:52 AM
I guess he wants to take on another iconic role, it's over at E! check it out http://tinyurl.com/2qmbxo
Pleassse ditch the rubber costume! by Stalkeye	Dec 3rd, 2007 07:12:48 AM
The batman I know wore the Grey spandex with black boots,cowl and cape not this condom made suit. The producer need to watch the fan flick Batman: The end to get an idea how the dark knight should really look..more akin to the comic like the spider-man movies. the rubber suit looks very "gay" as in bondage gay. enuff already.
just pillow talk by dab	Dec 3rd, 2007 07:23:00 AM
In just two weeks, on December 14, Warner Bros. will release the teaser trailer for Batman Begins sequel The Dark Knight in standard theaters with I Am Legend. As was previously announced, the studio will be showing the 7-minute opening scene of "Dark Knight" before the screenings of "Legend" in IMAX.
You people are bitter by the_scream	Dec 3rd, 2007 07:25:56 AM
And you suck the fun out of every new film that come out. Seriously, this Joker is fuckin sick, twisted and evil. What the hell is wrong with that? Nolan absolutely nailed the scarecrow in BB but people still whine that Murphy wasn't dressed up as an actual scarecrow with straw and what not. The batsuit is fine. Batman spends 99% of the time in the shadows so the suit isn't meant to be on full show in bright lights. It'll look fine on the day.
LAME by WesReviews	Dec 3rd, 2007 07:42:16 AM
I guess that's the kind of face we get with a "dark" and "realistic" Joker. I bet he only wears the purple suit in only one sequence, probably toward the end of the movie. Why not just go all the way, guys, and give him a complete leather suit. It made the X-Men look so hip, edgy, and "realistic".
And yeah... by WesReviews	Dec 3rd, 2007 07:46:29 AM
The batsuit is lame, but so is every batsuit without a visible bat symbol. It's dark, it's foggy...how is the bat symbol supposed to strike fear into the hearts of criminals if it's black like the rest of his suit. Again, LAME. It's a comic book movie, folks. We know it's a comic book movie. It won't hurt a thing to make it look just a little bit like a comic book. Jeez.
The batman outfit is too busy by Abominable Snowcone	Dec 3rd, 2007 08:21:39 AM
Way too busy...that's where the original movie series started going wrong. Too many lines, too many on-board accessories. You know, I'm all in favor of bringing back the iconic yellow bat logo on his chest. There was a reason Batman wore that--to encourage the bad guys to "shoot here" and let his armor absorb the impact. Batman Returns had the best suit. Just agree.
Love the new Joker look by red_five	Dec 3rd, 2007 08:42:54 AM
I think that the Joker's new look totally fits with Nolan's vision for a Batman universe that's grounded in realism. I think it looks terrible posed against a white background, but in the right lighting/setting, I think it will work. Just hope Ledger gets the persona right.
Batman suit by templar	Dec 3rd, 2007 08:44:41 AM
Listen people, it's a 30 year old guy wearing a suit that makes him look like the gimp. It doesn't matter if it looks like the original batsuit (like in the comics with some sort of material) or like in the Burton and Schoemaker flicks (a la Mr. Slave's House of Leather). Whatever the filmakers do, they will never be able to pull it off 100%. Why, because it's a comic book. But I do like how they've done the suit here. A little like the "Dark Knight returns". It'll probably look better in the film anyway
You know... by Bruce Leroy	Dec 3rd, 2007 09:00:38 AM
This is the first time i'm actually nog worried about the joker. He looks like a really fucked up version of the Joker, straight out of the Killing Joke. That's a good thing. What worries me is that picture of Batman. It screams "buy your Dark Knight Happy meal NOW!!!" If this movie sucks ass i'll turn in my geek membership. Who am i kiddin', i'l probably go to the second Bat sequel as well....shiiieeeeeeet.
The suit by templar	Dec 3rd, 2007 09:03:12 AM
The suit's not supposed to be seen in that light anyway. Too harsh. In the context of a dimly lit street in the middle of Gotham, probably perfect!
The Joker needs to get his roots done by CherryValance	Dec 3rd, 2007 09:11:39 AM
seriously, what kind of self-respecting villain goes around looking like that? And there was this old PSA/commercial about Alzheimer's where this old lady would put her lipstick on like that. That's what it reminds me of. Or Robert Smith on a bad day. I dunno, maybe that's supposed to be some kind of Gotham "ghetto fabulous". I'm beginning to think Nolan may have gone too far in the gritty direction. It's just a little too close to ugly. I don't even want to think about what they're going to do to Aaron Eckhart's face. shudders
I'm Loving It! by crashbarbarian	Dec 3rd, 2007 09:21:13 AM

I'm loving It! by crashbarbarian	Dec 3rd, 2007 09:24:27 AM
The bat suit looks pratical to me considering it was originally a prototype military suit, it has to look somewhat prototype which i think it does well with the patch design, the bat symbol part looks like wayne would have had to had it made and fit it onto the suit... plus it looks more like what a futuristic soldier would wear ala halo so it feels more real to me. The joker... is amazing love the longer coat and the craziness to it... like a psycho punk genius killer... love it!
BATMAN PROMO: COMING TO A TACOBELL CUP NEAR YOU by ArcadianDS	Dec 3rd, 2007 09:42:54 AM
That looks like a pose we're going to see on a Taco Bell large drink cup, amirite? Also, joker looks like a bad Dr. Who production. Oh that's right - They're ALL bad productions. Nevertheless, I will thumbs down yet another cartoon joker. If they were bold enough to re-invent scarecrow for the sake of 'realism' then why is the joker in a purple zoot suit and HOBO SHOES. You think he'd have time to dust off his rockports before putting them on.
A little better, but not enough... by Organs	Dec 3rd, 2007 09:43:27 AM
Actually, I like the bright colors of Heath's costume and makeup. The Joker is supposed to stick out like a sore thumb. But his hair isn't uniform. It's like he dipped it in green punch at a party or something. Also, he does look aged and a lipstick smear is no where near as frightening as a massive, natural-looking, double-row grin. To illustrate my point, the ONLY human being to grin naturally, showing both rows, is Louis Armstrong. But I digress. Actually, let me challenge you a little. You know that photoshopped image of Conrad Veidt from a while back? The one taken from "The Man Who Laughs", that 1928 silent movie? Now the reason that picture was so popular is because that's what the Joker was based off of. I hate to phrase it this way, but that's pretty much what he's supposed to look like. I know everyone's allowed to do their own interpretation, and that's fine. My problem is they strayed so damn far from that original model. Nicholson's Joker was very much flawed, but at least they put effort into his grin (gee, I seem to be repeating myself). I'm not trying to change anyone's mind so much as make people think. Finally, I find it hilarious the fan boys are criticizing us critics because they can't handle the criticism (boy, talk about repetition, I know).
Simple Bat Suit by Crimson Dynamo	Dec 3rd, 2007 09:45:26 AM
http://www.louanders.com/uploa ded_images/Batman-706327.JPG
The Tonner Doll Aquaman by Crimson Dynamo	Dec 3rd, 2007 09:53:57 AM
That is some funny shit
Thanks Woodcutter by Subculture	Dec 3rd, 2007 09:55:56 AM
The batsuit looks fine to me in the pictures from the film, the grey bits are gone for a start. I'm hardly suprised how many people are bitching though, a lot of posters on this site seem to think that it's clever to insult and swear all the time for no real reason.
Hey, this is a geek talkbalk site by Abominable Snowcone	Dec 3rd, 2007 10:08:23 AM
So of COURSE we're gonna critique stuff like this. It's a friggin' superhero movie, and these are among the first images of Bats in his new get-up. Yes, I get how all the "business" makes the suit look more real akin to SWAT tactical gear. But I feel they need to lose some of the complexity and play to Bruce's need for movement, flexibility, and speed. You can have an armored suit without it looking like a goddamn carcrash. That's why I like the suit in Bats Returns the best.
his pose just reminds of batman and robin by wattos new hat	Dec 3rd, 2007 10:21:26 AM
he looks like a dark knight and in the first one he dressed like a ninja cause he trained in ninja academy.
Batman begins by MOOMINIO	Dec 3rd, 2007 10:28:58 AM
A film thats overly long, dull,badly acted & pretentious as is all of nolans overrated films. ITS A SUPERHERO FILM NOLAN! People love it because it supposed to be a gritty realistic interpretation. LOOK Its about a man who wears a bat outfit and fights crime with a silly voice? Get some perspective. Ironically Insomnia put me to sleep also. The look of joker is good. but im avoiding the film like the plague.
Heath Joker's Hair Looks Like Scarecrow's Hair by That 70s Venom	Dec 3rd, 2007 10:36:09 AM
From the comic books. Did anyone else notice that? And especially if you guys remember the Scarecrow/Dr. Crane from Batman the Animated Series, that's sort of how his hair looked. His hair needs to look more like Joker hair not Scarecrow hair.
MOOMINIO by just pillow talk	Dec 3rd, 2007 10:49:40 AM
You might not like it, but badly acted? C'mon.... Memories-of-Murder will not be happy with you....
Looks more like a W. Hollywood Bum. by conspiracy	Dec 3rd, 2007 11:18:51 AM
As I've said before...I just don't understand why Nolan decided to screw around with what EVERY comic book reader/Action movie attendee already knows; that The Joker was scarred and deformed after he had a "Bad day" and fell into a Chemical vat...it is DC canon. Everyone who watches this will be thinking about that and at the end think.."Wow, they really screwed with that character", no matter how good the actor is who plays the part or how well it is written. Nolan has missed the point of what makes the Joker such screwed up character; the fact that he can't stop being The Joker, he is The Joker 24/7, and is constantly reminded of this fact and the events that led to it, and it has driven him insane. Grease paint, poorly kept green tinged hair, and shabby clothes make this Joker look more like a street walking W. Hollywood bottom who got rolled by some thugs while performing a "service" in a park restroom.
hmmm by bernard	Dec 3rd, 2007 11:44:44 AM
this joker reminds me of bert from the used. i can't wait to see how this turns out.
zombot and realseveren by ewokstew	Dec 3rd, 2007 11:50:32 AM
Zombot, good idea of a covering that hides a more complicated structure underneath but is revealed at some point. That makes total sense. Realseveren is right, also. Concept artists knowadays seem like they're trying to outdo each other. More detail, more spectacle, more color...I'd pit a simple Joe Johnston sketch from a Star Wars sketchbook against 90% of what I see in movie concept design today. Too much technique and flash and not enough solid design work. to all who don't want people to complain...that's why it's called a talkback. Negative or positive, that's what we do. Okay...I'm done venting.
This Joker look works; not so sure about the Batsuit by finky089	Dec 3rd, 2007 11:55:31 AM
but whatever, It'll be so dark with every scene it's in, we won't see that much of its detail anyway. I hope Ledger is batshit insane.
What the Batsuit has always needed by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Dec 3rd, 2007 11:56:27 AM
is a belt buckle like Sex Machine had in From Dusk Til Dawn. Savini didn't play around and realized after a while that a sledgehammer just didn't cut it.
Looks cool to me .. by ckone	Dec 3rd, 2007 12:25:55 PM
These are PROMO shots, with WHITE backgrounds...The Joker looks like the Joker...He looks sick and twisted, kind of like what I would imagine Tim Burtons Joker would look like, if Nicholson didn't make it his own. I LIKE the New Bat-suit cause it makes sense. It looks like modern day battle armor, not some muscle suit or some goffy tights. He looks like he could be hit by a car and get back up. That's cool. Too bad anyone can put a bullet through his face though...Again,these are lit up imiages in broad daylight people, Batman is about mood and night. These are going to kick ass on screen.
Looks like: by hank henshaw	Dec 3rd, 2007 12:41:05 PM
Urban Armor Batman(™) by Mattel®... and one of the Jokerz from Batman Beyond.
I love it. by isispop	Dec 3rd, 2007 12:41:54 PM
Love the Romero Joker meets the dirty mental patient. Sure to spawn a lotta waek knockoffs come Halloween '08...but what more coulda ask for? I like the fact that it wouldn't be real cartoony & looks more outta Grandpa's closet, cause that's what the character would really look like. It translates well into Nolan's Batman realm, which I dig.
Well that's just fantastic - harrumph by MrJJonz	Dec 3rd, 2007 12:44:14 PM
For years I have typed paragraph after paragraph about what is wrong with the live action Bat films and what do those clever studio guys do . . .reease 1 picture that sums absolutely everything up. Goodbye to typing . . .now all I have to do is copy and paste link to that Batman picture . . says more than words possibly can
That Joker looks so lame. by Gremlin517	Dec 3rd, 2007 12:59:35 PM
Basically he looks like a balding Goth-wannabe. I am losing excitement for this movie with every image we receive. I wish they would have used either some computer manipulation or latex and really would have made him look like the Joker, instead, he just looks like some fan at the movie opening for the first movie. Oh well, I thought the first movie was actually pretty boring and don't have high hopes for this one at all.
Batman's head is too BIG! by batzilla	Dec 3rd, 2007 01:02:54 PM
I saw a vid of a new scene and it was AWFUL! Batmans suit that is. He looks like a fucking BOOBLE HEAD! Now that the cowl is skin tight on his neck (the pic here doesnt really show this) it makes he head look gigantic! And goofy as hell! Also, in the clip, Batman looks skinny. So, he is too skinny with a big, HUGE head and pencil neck! WHat the fuck is wrong with these people? Also, IMO, the joker is kind of weak. I don't like the lip stick look at ALL! Very disappointed.
Training Bra Batman(™) by Mattel®... by Demode	Dec 3rd, 2007 01:13:44 PM

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Training Bra Batman(™) by Mattel®... by Demode	Dec 3rd, 2007 01:14:48 PM

Training Bra Batman(™) by Mattel®... by Demode	Dec 3rd, 2007 01:15:18 PM

Training Bra Batman(™) by Mattel®... by Demode	Dec 3rd, 2007 01:15:47 PM

Training Bra Batman(™) by Mattel®... by Demode	Dec 3rd, 2007 01:16:12 PM

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Batman Began... by Lord Nerd	Dec 3rd, 2007 01:18:03 PM
..on the suck and so shall it end on the suck. Batman Ends was the WORST MOVIE EVER!! There is no way these butt rangers will ever see my cash.
That new batsuit by Abominable Snowcone	Dec 3rd, 2007 01:40:48 PM
Shakes small infants, abuses the elderly, defiles corpses, hates baseball and blondes, and spits in the face of all that is holy. Michael Bay would love it.
That utility belt is the same color... by Abominable Snowcone	Dec 3rd, 2007 01:43:16 PM
...as Ace Hunter's gold jumpsuit from Megaforce. It's probably also got a can of shark repellent in it. That can't be good.
To Kraken by vini77	Dec 3rd, 2007 01:49:11 PM
Late response, but you're a complete dumbass. Yes Joker is supposed to be clownish. :/
Kurzinski Valentine by J-Dizzle	Dec 3rd, 2007 02:03:13 PM
That poster should read "Teh Awesomo!"
Bale said this suit was lighter and more flexible by Oski	Dec 3rd, 2007 02:13:25 PM
than the one from Begins which was lighter and more flexible than the previous ones. Just stating some facts for those trying to argue that the suit might be cumbersome.
Crimson Dynamo by Abominable Snowcone	Dec 3rd, 2007 02:14:08 PM
That suit won't work because that guy looks a little TOO sexy. I almost want to have sex with him.
I normally don't care for spandex, but... by samurai sark	Dec 3rd, 2007 03:35:00 PM
That Batsuit looks like his nuts are showing. Glad he can move his head around, now.. so he can see his ntus are showing. Ledger looks great, probably smells like pee, but jokers a sikfuk so it works for me.
I didn't see the pics, but IT WAS AWESOME by MattmanReturns	Dec 3rd, 2007 05:55:29 PM

This talkback proves various things… by The Heathen	Dec 3rd, 2007 06:13:40 PM
like people not being very good at Photoshop and of course the usual moaning and bitching.
wait til you see the suit in action by zooch	Dec 3rd, 2007 07:48:17 PM
And how much more movement Bale will have in it. You'll all change your mind. I will give you the '89 suit though, still the coolest looking one.
B89 suit was crap by the_scream	Dec 3rd, 2007 08:55:58 PM
Batman Returns was better than B89. The B89 suit was so incredibly baulky, they set up most scenes to have Keaton standing still like when he sucker punches the guy at the chemical factory. Not to mention the super thick mask that was attached to the main suit so Keaton had to turn his whole body everytime he wanted to look at something. The Batman Returns suit was an improvement because it was streamlined. The Batman Begins suit was the best so far partly because of the improved cowl. Also because the belt and bat symbol no longer looked like action figure accessories. I'll wait to see how the new suit looks on screen. But, for now, it looks like a combo of mesh and rubber. I can imagine Bats will now be able to move a lot faster. And unlike every other suit, it looks built for action not style. Let's not forget that Batman, in the comics, occasionally donned armor in battle (see The Dark Knight Returns), hence, the term "Dark Knight" in this film. Nolan has him wearing an armored suit for that very reason. Lastly, Ledger is miles better than Nicholson who was fat, bloated, bald and just plain silly, not insane like Ledger's Joker appears. This is easily going to be the best Batman film of all time. It isn't targeted at people who are mind-numbingly anal about every detail that they can't accept any changes, no matter how kick-ass. Nolan is a fantastic director and he doesn't have a bad film in him. Have some faith in the man.
Wow theres a lot of hate for Nolans films here by Lovecraftfan	Dec 3rd, 2007 10:44:39 PM
I dont get it. I really like his films including the vastly underrated The Prestige.
the_scream nailed it by red_five	Dec 3rd, 2007 10:53:43 PM
thank you. You nailed exactly why the suit is the way it is. I think it's silly how these guys are whining about the Batsuit being so non-traditional. Newsflash: Skin-tight spandex doesn't look good on a body unless you're built like a circa 1975 Arnold S. An armored suit is the way to go. It looks like Nolan got the right blend of armor and 'fabric'. As for the Joker, I think Ledger looks pretty much dead on. People still don't get that this film is supposed to be grounded in realism. A Joker that fell into a vat of chemicals and has a permanent grin burned into his face is NOT REAL. Yeah, I know it's still a comic book movie, but Nolan and Co are bending the rules and that is OK by me.
I Love Nolan's Films! Batman Begins was fantastic! by Demode	Dec 3rd, 2007 11:20:25 PM
I'm not thrilled with the new suit. That Training Bra suit bugs me. I do like the mask and neck. Glad they finally did that. But the suit is busy. Will this stop me from loving the movie though? No WAY!!!!
Um, what red_five? by Frankenbastard	Dec 4th, 2007 12:01:04 AM
You're right, The Spiderman suit doesn't work at all they should have amped Peter Parker up in some kick ass armor. It’s that kind of lame ass thinking that’s killing these comic book adaptations. God, just give me half the budget of one of these movies and I’ll deliver the (armor-less and crappy grease paint-less) goods. It’s not impossible and it could work.
As Reeve's Superman, Hellboy & Spider-Man all proved by TheGhostWhoLurks	Dec 4th, 2007 01:31:32 AM
...just stick to the look of the original COMICS and EVERYONE will be happy and you'll make TONS of money! You can include Sin City and 300 on the list as well...
Oh, and I'll probably just download Dark Knight... by TheGhostWhoLurks	Dec 4th, 2007 01:44:44 AM
...based on the crummy look of these photos to date and the info out there about this film. This production has had MORE than enough time to convince me that they deserve my hard-earned money, only to finance more mediocre or sub-par crap for a franchise that should be easy as pie to get right. They did well with Batman Begins, but this Joker really looks like garbage and Ledger doesn't have an acting credit to his name to make me even START to think he can do the character justice. The preview comes out soon, so I'll make my final decision then, but if they DON'T hit a home-run with it, I'm just gonna watch it for free at home. Any other fans tired of being taken for granted and being handed cinematic slop time and again might want to do the same. Trust your instincts... everyone's "Spidey-sense" about this flick is going off for a REASON.
Just gimme some hair by Iowa Snot Client	Dec 4th, 2007 04:20:52 AM
I'm kinda warming to the idea of the Joker's roots needing a touch-up. I guess the chemicals turned his hair green, but enough time has passed since that his natural color is growing back out. Expect pages of "goofs" on IMDB where fanboys track dye-job continuity.
Tonner Aquaman Doll by garofellatio	Dec 4th, 2007 08:32:18 AM
It's even worse than the Tonner Joker doll, which looks like of an even more effete version of the way Alan... what was his name-- the british artist who drew Detective for a while in the mid-80s... Alan... anyway, the way he drew him.

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