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JOURNEYMAN Creator Falls Talks Reveals, Ratings And Livia's Cavorting Time-Undies!!

FIRST! by Pennsy	Nov 26th, 2007 06:46:56 PM
Yeah.
SECOND! by Swollen_balls_low_hung_too	Nov 26th, 2007 06:51:32 PM

11TH by chrth	Nov 26th, 2007 07:04:37 PM

Not a bad show... by Heckles	Nov 26th, 2007 07:15:09 PM
...it can better. I've mentioned it before, unless they make the stories more intriguing. Still feels like Quantum Leap trapped in San Fran.
Only looks like Quantum leap by TheHichhiker	Nov 26th, 2007 07:31:51 PM
I was thinking it was just a QL rip-off but glad I stuck around past first few episodes - Its actually a lot more interesting than QL, with the "leaps" being as important as the sick people to House - just something to give show that episodic nature and provide the backdrop for the real story as things much more interesting are happening. They actually managed to create a pretty interesting story and characters out of very mediocre concept - much better than all these other people creating mediocre shows out of good concepts. I really hope it does not get canceled.
It's probably just bait... by gotilk	Nov 26th, 2007 07:32:00 PM
so I'll bite, a bit. Quantum Leap? Yeah, sort of like how Spielberg's A.I. was kinda like the sitcom Small Wonder trapped in the future.
That's good that they approved a few more by Dazzler69	Nov 26th, 2007 07:33:10 PM
Networks suck for sci-fi, they never give a show a chance. I bet they want to plop another CSI/cop/law shitty show on the slot.
GAHH, just renew it and lose the Music if its so pricey by modlight	Nov 26th, 2007 07:34:48 PM
I can't fuckin stand the music in it anyways. its the worst thing on a great show. Yeah its 1996 just say 96 because I can't remember what year some dumb Spin Doctors or Dave Matthews band song came out.
They better renew this shit.. by mansuper	Nov 26th, 2007 08:14:28 PM
The only eason I watch "Chuck," and "Heroes," Is to keep me busy while I wait for "Journeyman" to come on. Goddamn studio executives...why do you get paid so much when all you do is fuck everythng good up!?
This is a GREAT show! by california_mtz	Nov 26th, 2007 08:34:07 PM
Thanks to Herc to calling attention to this show. At first, it was just one more new show based on time travel which, albeit interesting, has been done ad naseum. But when you watch and see how time travel is handled here, with all the plots and subplots, and all the nuances of each plot and subplot, you end up with a show that could rival Season 1 of Lost without even trying!
FULL SEASON ORDER by Unlabled	Nov 26th, 2007 08:41:11 PM
NOW! DO IT NOW!!!!!!
FULL SEASON ORDER! by CatVutt	Nov 26th, 2007 08:58:23 PM
I second that! I'll even start watching Heroes again, I swear!
Stalking Xiphos! by VegasRon	Nov 26th, 2007 09:11:08 PM
cuz it's what I do. Livia in undies. 'nuff said.
Full Season for Journeyman! by Tom Reagan	Nov 26th, 2007 09:16:02 PM
Because America deserves it! I agree with Mansuper in that I watch Chuck and Heroes as opening acts for the headliner, Journeyman.
FUTURERAMA by RenoNevada2000	Nov 26th, 2007 09:21:31 PM
Hey Herc, where'd the FUTURERAMA: BENDER'S BIG SCORE talkback go?
Tonight's episode had me glued by ZapruderEye	Nov 26th, 2007 09:25:19 PM
What an interesting ride this show is! And I really like how the music sets the tone, but I guess sacrifice it if you HAVE to.
regarding the latest heroes episode compared to the latest journ by noiretblanc	Nov 26th, 2007 09:35:39 PM
journeyman's is far better than heroes'
Holy shit. by CatVutt	Nov 26th, 2007 09:37:12 PM
"They always need money."?!?! WTF? Goddamn it, NBC. Give this show a break, PLEASE.
love it by evolutiongirl	Nov 26th, 2007 09:38:45 PM
I started watching a lot of the new shows this season and Journeyman has worked its way to the top of my list. It deserves a full season pick-up!!
If Bionic Woman can stay on... by NeoMyers	Nov 26th, 2007 09:39:43 PM
...then Journeyman should get a whole series order. That show is terrible and is still on only because of name recognition. Kevin McKidd, Moon Bloodgood, Gretchen Egolf, and Reed Diamond act circles around that whole show's cast. Let's keep Journeyman on the air and drop the "women empowerment" hour.
YES! Ketchup Sandwiches! by ZapruderEye	Nov 26th, 2007 09:50:33 PM
...and NeoMyers is right.
FBI Agent by localhero12	Nov 26th, 2007 09:56:07 PM
Sad to see that, especially right after the money conversation. Great EP!! Great show!
Ketchup Sandwiches no thanks by localhero12	Nov 26th, 2007 09:59:45 PM
but I'll take a sugar sandwich any afternoon. I'm not going to watch "Life" next Monday.
NBC execs are stupid and or high! by MacFaux	Nov 26th, 2007 10:00:38 PM
just sayin..cause Journeyman is the best show they have. really would like to meet the boneheaded douche suit at the peacock to see just how big a douche they are. Morons.
Best Episode Yet. by CatVutt	Nov 26th, 2007 10:02:11 PM
This is why this show has come so far, so quickly. A lesser show would STILL be playing the 'My brother thinks I'm nuts' angle, rather than taking the logical step and bringing Jack into the fold. The lesser aspects of this show, the weaker plots, have been sliding away more and more week after week, and it's firmly established itself as a legitimately compelling show. I KNEW Jack was going to meet Livia this episode from NBC's notoriously spoiler happy promo department, and it STILL gave me a chill. FULL SEASON ORDER NOW!
FULL SEASON ORDER!! by nalapou	Nov 26th, 2007 10:04:03 PM
anything less is unacceptable from NBC, what a great epsiode.
And yeah... by CatVutt	Nov 26th, 2007 10:04:11 PM
I would be really surprised if we've actually seen the last of the 'FBI' agent. 'They always need money'. Great teaser line.
Great episode tonight by aversiontherapy2	Nov 26th, 2007 10:04:17 PM
Now the brother is on board things will get more interesting. It's a solid show that consistently pays off, I hope it sticks around.
LET's START SENDING NBC KETCHUP SANDWICHES!!! by nalapou	Nov 26th, 2007 10:04:49 PM
YEAH!!!
And if the music budget has to go... by CatVutt	Nov 26th, 2007 10:09:41 PM
SO BE IT. This ain't friggin' 'Cold Case' which substitutes scripting for musical montages. The strength of this show is in it's writing and acting, not its gimmicks.
Fammit? by CatVutt	Nov 26th, 2007 10:10:26 PM
FULL SEASON ORDER, FAMMIT!
fammit. by VegasRon	Nov 26th, 2007 10:11:29 PM
Just saying.
full season order DAMMIT! by Mr_X	Nov 26th, 2007 10:24:49 PM
this superior show deserves to stay. if they allowed pre order of dvds for this one i would have ordered it by now. c'mon NBC get it done and done quickly.
NBC! Do you KNOW how MESSY Ketchup Sandwiches would be?!?! by CatVutt	Nov 26th, 2007 10:28:25 PM
DON'T MAKE US DO IT! FULL SEASON ORDER NOW! (FAMMIT!)
really i dont understand it by Mr_X	Nov 26th, 2007 10:29:53 PM
it's the best show this season. its going from strength to strength. it needs promotion and it neeeds for everyone to spread the word. This show cannot die!
Serousily, let's start sending these babies. by nalapou	Nov 26th, 2007 10:31:33 PM
Ketchup sandwiches would be HILARIOUS. And not a salty snack like peanuts, just annoying. I seriously will do it if the don't make the right decision.
I'll send a Ketchup Sandwich. by localhero12	Nov 26th, 2007 10:33:54 PM
Where to?!
Address by nalapou	Nov 26th, 2007 10:43:42 PM
NBC Universal, 3000 W Alameda Ave, Burbank, CA 91505
It Gets Better With Every Episode by CHEWBLACCA	Nov 26th, 2007 11:18:45 PM
I was kind of suprised how quickly the snooping fed was dealt with, though. _ I REALLY want this show to continue.
NBC better get a clue... by LordEnigma	Nov 26th, 2007 11:36:28 PM
Journeyman goes against Monday's biggest shows, gets better each week, and NBC are going to let it go? Really? Hopefully they will wake up to the show being incredibly fucking awesome and deserving a chance to grow. If not... FUCK THEM. FUCK THEM IN THEIR STUPID ASSES.
Watched it late on DVR by Tom Reagan	Nov 26th, 2007 11:49:03 PM
The "They always need money" line and Livia appearing to Jack both gave me chills while watching! Even though last weeks trailer showed me the Livia/Jack scene I was still watching with my mouth open wondering what would happen next.
Boycott LIFE Next Monday by Tom Reagan	Nov 26th, 2007 11:51:30 PM
I'm totally on board with that idea. Maybe instead of watching Life next Monday we can go to iTunes and download the pilot episode as a sign of support for this show. That wouldn't cost any more than mailing a ketchup sandwich...I also wouldn't have to get out of bed to do that.
Put word out to existing bands... by gotilk	Nov 27th, 2007 12:14:17 AM
who would love to have their music played on network TV. Just have them write and record period-appropriate music and make deals. Podsafemusic.com is good, and check around for Creative Commons stuff. There's some great music out there. If the music budget is what's putting this amazing show on the bubble, lose the music and find an alternative solution. Even cover versions would be ok. . Tonight's episode gave me chills. It's one of the best shows on TV and thinking it may go away this soon makes me almost as sad as when they took the sky away from us. I want to find out what happens when Dan confronts Ted Koppel's voice double again.
Don't blow it, NBC by gotilk	Nov 27th, 2007 12:15:51 AM
FLAMMIT!!!
Xiphos by Tom Reagan	Nov 27th, 2007 12:26:04 AM
Life is a pretty decent show but if I had to choose between the two I'd choose Journeyman. Besides, Life has already been picked up for a full season--it's in the clear.
Watching it now... by VegasRon	Nov 27th, 2007 12:37:00 AM
...PST zone, lol. "They always need money." Send chills down my spine. Go Kellerman, go!
you are wroing, bacci! by VegasRon	Nov 27th, 2007 12:51:35 AM
"Clash of the Choirs" is GOLD. PURE. GOLD. turd.
livia by the_fin	Nov 27th, 2007 01:06:59 AM
one wonders what might have happened with her going "off mission" besides being stuck in the 90's also dan once in a while running into the old livia is a huge clue, the controls or god or whatever sending old livia reminders of why she was sent to the 90's in the first place.
DON'T BOYCOTT LIFE by polyh3dron	Nov 27th, 2007 01:07:00 AM
It's a great show. I hated how people boycotted the Black Donnellys last season just because it replaced Studio 60. They're BOTH GOOD SHOWS. But NBC, you'd better order more Journeyman episodes or you're gonna have a shitload of pissed off viewers that are going to swear off your network for good. NBC has the best primetime scripted lineup on Monday, better than any other network. They need to keep it that way. Kudos for extending Life and Chuck though.
hahaha mail ketchup sandwiches!! by polyh3dron	Nov 27th, 2007 01:07:56 AM
That would be FUCKING AWESOME.
I got an idea, give ketchup sandwiches to all the striking write by polyh3dron	Nov 27th, 2007 01:09:39 AM
Go to NBC and Universal Studios with Ketchup Sandwiches for all the writers in support of Journeyman.
all the writers picketing outside Universal and NBC I mean by polyh3dron	Nov 27th, 2007 01:10:12 AM
yes.
ok never mind... better idea about the sandwiches... by polyh3dron	Nov 27th, 2007 01:15:44 AM
Writers won't want the sandwiches and they don't have the influence anyway... Blend in with the writers early in the morning at the picket lines and try to catch Ben Silverman, Marc Graboff or Katherine Pope or whoever else are the other prime time execs there these days while they're pulling in to work (the striking writers may even help point them out for you) and present a whole bunch of ketchup sandwiches to them.. in a non violent way of course :D
I SUPPORT LIVIA'S PANTIES! by IAmMrMonkey!	Nov 27th, 2007 01:41:55 AM
I just hope that they support me for a second season. :(
ok..seriously.... by jarodvhale	Nov 27th, 2007 03:24:43 AM
how the fck can anyone think of cancelling this show...that had to be the best tv I have seen in a long while..heroes was good last night...but only the last five minutes...tonight..journeyman was awesome from start to finish..I mean him seeing the kid was a bit predictable..but seriously....fricken aweome......
btw..I am gonna send a dozen sandwiches... by jarodvhale	Nov 27th, 2007 03:27:15 AM
from up here in Toronto..so you know they'll be nice and ripe...c'mon..dare me...hehehe
Journeyman by NudeandAroused	Nov 27th, 2007 06:06:38 AM
I watched, I think four episodes of this show. I am not understanding what all the hype is about. Most of the cast, with the exception of McKidd and Reed Diamond, are flat. The story is somewhat intriguing but scientifically impossible. Must say, however, that Moon Bloodgood (Best name on TV) is absolutely hot. Please tell me what I am missing.
I would send some ketchup sarnies from the UK by DirkD13"	Nov 27th, 2007 06:13:50 AM
But I don't want to get my collar felt by the FDA or anything.
AD Shows by Coaxial Junkie	Nov 27th, 2007 06:53:25 AM
WOW - I really love Journeyman and to a certain degree CHUCK, but this week both of these shows were very heavy on Apples iPhone Advertisement. The Mobile was featured each time protected by an acrylic Glass Casing and I`m pretty sure other Shows will follow. Its like having ENVIRONMENTAL WEEK all over again except this time its the opposite of environmentally. The same goes for Shows featuring the same Song in the exact same Week. I just hate that!
NudeandAroused by Mr_X	Nov 27th, 2007 07:49:20 AM
admittingly the first epsiodes went on a slow start, everythng is linkking up in these later epsiodes.. its getting better and better. seriously, get the new eps up till the latest one. if it doesnt grab ya, then quit. I'm guessing you're going to have to keep watching the history or discovery channel, or the usual proceedural dramas as most things outthere in tv land are "Scientifically impossible"
The problem with NBC... by Montag666	Nov 27th, 2007 08:03:52 AM
First of all they have lousy ideas for shows. Did you guys see the promo for that gospel singers type contest? WTF? Who wants to see that? Second of all, when they do get a good idea they kill it at the first sign of weakness. Back in the day, they used to let shows find their audience and they would have at least one full season and a half before everyone would start to worry. Look at Cheers. That show was getting lousy ratings in its first year. They used to give shows a chance over there and now they just freak and cancel whatever doesn't go through the roof. If there is a show that should be given a chance it's this one.
NBC doesn't usually do this by nalapou	Nov 27th, 2007 08:28:16 AM
Studio 60 was plain getting bad creatively, and The Black Donnelly's was boycotted because it wasn't Studio 60 by the few people that still watched it. NBC has a huge track record of not caring about ratings as much as FOX or ABC. Case in point the first seasons of The Office or 30 Rock, all 7 seasons of Scrubs, the last 5 seasons of ER, or the last 12-13 seasons of Law and Order Original. That is why this is so terrible, it's completely out of character. DON'T DO THIS NBC!! Unless you REALLY like Ketchup... as for NudeandAroused, who doesn't watch a show cause it's "Scientifically Impossible"? lol... weird... FAMMIT!
Has this been canned? by Brody77	Nov 27th, 2007 08:34:42 AM
I read in the Daily Star today that it has. (Before flaming, just remember that the Star HAS NOT BEEN WRONG with any Dr Who spoilers since it started back, so I at least pay it attention). I'd like to think it hasn't, as I hear only good things. (waiting til I know or not before watching, not making the same mistake I did with Studio 60!)
Some face punchasizing is required I think by DarthScotland	Nov 27th, 2007 08:47:47 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =JGEJ-xGtlk4 (1:07-1:19) Classic
Remove the space between v and = by DarthScotland	Nov 27th, 2007 08:54:12 AM
I would have thought for this show that an early 'reveal' would be to its benefit anyway, as long as its fairly satisfying he could choose to keep doing it, perhaps recruiting others to do it as well or something. I would have thought revealing how its all happening would open up story options not close them. So in a way this is a good thing. I'm in the UK so can someone who would noramlly not, watch it in my place to get the ratings up :) Question for Herc Do the studios bear in mind potential sales to other countries before making renewal decisions? I'm sure we could convice our lovely Beeb to buy it for sure :)
I like this show so much . . . by The Devlinizer	Nov 27th, 2007 09:16:23 AM
I registered to for talk back after YEARS of reading this site just to say that if Journeyman ends without at least one WHOLE season under its belt I WILL NEVER WATCH ANYTHING ON NBC EVER AGAIN! That includes sporting events and the thanksgiving day parade.
overnights are in, journeyman 4.3 by the_fin	Nov 27th, 2007 09:56:04 AM
not a strong showing, but its a climb upwards. and in plus for our corner, journeyman beat October Road. (which had huge numbers last year.) lets hope the numbers continue to go up next month.
Montag666 - that promo was so bad.... by just pillow talk	Nov 27th, 2007 10:29:26 AM
gospel challenge? Gladiators coming back? Perhaps this is all part of NBC's learn to grow campaign (or whatever the hell it was called), forcing everyone to start doing more productive things with their lives than to watch tv. So thanks NBC...you drippy little whores.
shit..the more you know promos? by just pillow talk	Nov 27th, 2007 10:30:18 AM
was that what it was called? I still hate you NBC.
it IS getting better (still no Camp Candy, though ...) by rightarm4Rosario	Nov 27th, 2007 10:33:20 AM
I must admit, I watched it last night. Moon Bloodgood is quite foxy, and the actress playing Dan's wife wasn't completely horrible this time. McKidd continues with strong performances despite enduring formulaic scenarios. I have modified my stance slightly. I will still not cry if JOURNEYMAN is cancelled. HOWEVER - I will stop actively rooting for its cancellation. I'd like to see DAN on the run, though. Let's can all this police and newspaper shit. Hell - get Dan out of San Francisco for a change!!
4.3/7 by PVIII	Nov 27th, 2007 10:34:27 AM
is that an improvement from last week. Anyways I agree with everyone - Kill Bionic Woman, Save Journeyman! And boycott LIFE.
if HEROES can do it by rightarm4Rosario	Nov 27th, 2007 10:37:36 AM
I suppose that if HEROES can pull itself out of a funk, perhaps this new show can as well. But don't boycott Life. Life is still 1000X better than Journeyman. And don't tell me the first 2-3 episodes were any good. They were not.
Crossover Bonanza!! by rightarm4Rosario	Nov 27th, 2007 10:40:41 AM
Hiro & the Bionic one appear in San Fran? Next: on "a very special episode" of Journeyman!
The first 2-3 episodes were good. by Steve_Dooku	Nov 27th, 2007 10:43:16 AM
So there. :)
In the words of Mama Cass: by TinkerTIW	Nov 27th, 2007 10:47:24 AM
"It's getting better...better all the time." First episodes played like a second rate QUANTUM LEAP rip-off. Now it's coming into its own. Before cancelling it, maybe NBC should think about another trying it on another day (although I can't think of any idol time slots on the Law and Order/Deal or No Deal network.) Love McKidd but can't Verinus (spelling?) out of my head.
In the words of Mama Cass: by TinkerTIW	Nov 27th, 2007 10:47:24 AM
"It's getting better...better all the time." First episodes played like a second rate QUANTUM LEAP rip-off. Now it's coming into its own. Before cancelling it, maybe NBC should think about another trying it on another day (although I can't think of any idol time slots on the Law and Order/Deal or No Deal network.) Love McKidd but can't Verinus (spelling?) out of my head.
So true Anchorite by IAmMrMonkey!	Nov 27th, 2007 10:49:11 AM
I can't think of a single episode I haven't enjoyed unlike most of the other shows at the moment (even my other favourite LIFE had one very bad episode). Keep Journeyman journeying...man!
Fans need to do something NOW! by Mel Gibsteinberg	Nov 27th, 2007 10:50:09 AM
Seriously, one of the issues is that fans always come to the table after its too late, case in point Firefly or Jericho. But the problem that I see right now, is that serialized fictional dramatic TV is in serious jeopardy regardless of what happens with Journeyman. The fact is, these stupid Reality TV shows are so cheap to produce, and people still watch them, that most networks just can't help themselves. They are, afterall, a business. Once in awhile a phenomenon like Heroes or Lost becomes worth doing, but for every Heroes, there is also Day Break, The 9, Invasion, and a whole bunch of other sci-fi/fantastical shows that probabl cost a lot to produce and never went anywhere. I think the general viewing public gets confused as to which is the worthy show, and which is just another crappy knock off trying to get the rabid viewer to tune in. Speaking of Jericoh, when did they bring this back? Have they already aired the mini-season this year? Man how did I miss that?
You hear that, NBC?!?!? by CatVutt	Nov 27th, 2007 10:56:19 AM
That's the sound of Ketchup bottles opening all over the country! You have been warned! Your mailboxes shall runeth over with the BLOOD OF PROCESSED TOMATOES SHOULD JOURNEYMAN NOT BE SAVED! FULL SEASON ORDER NOW!! FAMMIT!
Someone's going to see an NBC Exec walking down the street... by Mel Gibsteinberg	Nov 27th, 2007 11:03:54 AM
And they will be like GOD-FAMMIT! THAT IS ONE FAT ASS KETCHUP SANDWHICH THEY HAVE, GOD-FAMMIT!
KETCHUP SANDWICHES by rightarm4Rosario	Nov 27th, 2007 11:17:25 AM
Are the "ANDO" of Journeyman.
Early Journeyman episodes by agentf1	Nov 27th, 2007 11:27:30 AM
A lot of people say that Journeyman started slow....if you watch the first couple episodes over again, they actually seem a lot better just because of the way the rest of the episodes have developed Speaking of early episodes, did anyone notice that the toolbox that Bennett found to pretend to be a plumber was the one that Dan bought in the pilot to bury in the backyard? How cool is that for continuity.
Hey node by Mel Gibsteinberg	Nov 27th, 2007 11:33:05 AM
You should be thrilled that FAMMIT caught on, if this ever jumps to any other talkback, you will have a bonafide talkback term on your hands, that you created. I doubt it could ever reach the hights of "sexiest tomboy beanpole" or Grando Calrissian, or even "has a beer and cheats on his wife" but it could have its place. Or not, it may just die later today, but for now, FAMMIT is pretty GOD-FAMM funny!
They should have Hulk Hogan play node by polyh3dron	Nov 27th, 2007 12:08:54 PM
God fammit, BROTHER!
Where is the goddam MOONLIGHT talkback??? by Master Darque	Nov 27th, 2007 12:42:41 PM
"Journeyman" is still, hands down, the best show, but "Moonlight" is pretty darned good too.
As for the sandwiches. . . by The Devlinizer	Nov 27th, 2007 12:52:00 PM
NO bags... wrap them up in plastic wrap. If the ketchup goes bad it won't stink up anybodys office.
Fammit, if NBC cancels this show by Big Jim	Nov 27th, 2007 12:53:26 PM
I will tell them to Duck Odd & Fie! Great episode last night. The tension created by the back & forth between Dan in the past trying to complete his task, and Bennet in the present in Dan's house, had me on the edge of my seat the whole time. The reveal that the kid was Bennet was very well done. Did not see it coming. All these possible scenarios of what Dan might do to save himself, and the possible consequences, starting running through my head and I had to pause the show a couple of seconds to process it all. Some great lines in this last episode. "They always need money" was the best. I laughed at "Weirdest family ever"; and "This is your dad's. Won't he kill you?" "That'd work out well for you then". I agree that if the music is a prohibitive expense then they should either cut back or just drop it. It's a nice touch but not a necessity.
Can Ketchup GO bad? by CatVutt	Nov 27th, 2007 12:53:47 PM
Isn't it like...impervious to harm from any of the known sciences or something? Like Cheez Whiz?
KENSEI'S KETCHUP by rightarm4Rosario	Nov 27th, 2007 01:08:32 PM
Perhaps those Ketchup Sandwiches were the beginnings of the Shanti Virus ...
I could watch 7 seasons of this show. by I Hope You Die	Nov 27th, 2007 01:19:15 PM
Even the kid who plays his son is believable.
Boycott NBC. by Dragulf	Nov 27th, 2007 01:27:14 PM
I do that already.
Last night's ratings by jeffty	Nov 27th, 2007 01:55:11 PM
3.8 rating, 6 share. Not very good.
jeffty that's incorrect by PVIII	Nov 27th, 2007 02:01:44 PM
the numbers were 4.1/7 via mediaweek.
DOH! by Mel Gibsteinberg	Nov 27th, 2007 02:06:06 PM
That sucks, they really needed that kick in the pants. Has anyone else seen this? http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/hom e-entertainment/nbc-snaps-up-p op+up-tivo-ads-second+by+secon d-viewer-ratings-326897.php Wonder if this will make any difference in keeping Journeyman around, since I bet a lot of people Tivo this sucker due to its later time slot.
ratings by jeffty	Nov 27th, 2007 02:32:16 PM
PVIII, got my numbers from zap2it.com and The Futon Critic, but I see the figures you cite at mediaweek (actually 4.3/7) and am at a loss to explain or even speculate as to the discrepency.
hey, well lets hope they're the 4.3 by PVIII	Nov 27th, 2007 03:29:49 PM
we can take all the good news we can get...
Last night episode was UNSTOPPABLE by Charlie Murphy	Nov 27th, 2007 03:30:41 PM
brilliance from start to finish. great great show.
If only you believe in miracles...... by lostbat	Nov 27th, 2007 03:46:29 PM
That Jefferson Starship Song. Didn't know it, ever!!! 1973 It's amazing!!! Kudos to the Journeyman Team for bringing back this great music. AND NOW WE NEED A F...CKING MIRACLE TO KEEP THE JOURNEYMAN ON THE TUBE. Best show of 2008!!
KEEP JOURNEYMAN by poncelion	Nov 27th, 2007 03:48:29 PM
This show is very well crafted. It will be a shame if it is cancelled. Drop Bionic Woman, instead. KETCHUP SANDWICH FORCES UNITE !!!!
This show is just picking up steam by Wed Vid Guy	Nov 27th, 2007 03:49:16 PM
Here's hoping NBC is generous. They have a real gem on their hands here.
HE AINTITCOOL REANIMATED STALLONE!!! by lostbat	Nov 27th, 2007 03:49:40 PM
so extending the life of a Journeyman shouldn't be a problem!
Ketchup Sammiches? by Wed Vid Guy	Nov 27th, 2007 03:49:45 PM
How about clocks?
we need another procedural cop drama by PVIII	Nov 27th, 2007 04:20:57 PM
like I need crabs.
If it's cancelled I'm done with new NBC shows. by obi5kenobi	Nov 27th, 2007 04:58:29 PM
People keep saying that we should wait until a show finishes a season and then start watching it. I thought that was a terrible idea. Now, if Journeyman gets cancelled, I will do just that. Journeyman is such a great show and I actually care what happens. If NBC cancels it after so few episodes I will take the "wait and see" approach with any new show they put on. When will they learn that every show can't be an instant hit? They need time. I have one potential issue with Livia's time travelling that I want other fans opinions on. Dan goes back in time and comes back to the present. He can check to see what changes he made with the help of the internet, his brother the cop and the fact that he's a reporter. Livia only goes forward in time. She doesn't have the benefit of knowing that some things are going to happen. She also doesn't have any way of checking on her progress when she returns to her own time. Her job would appear to be much harder than Dan's. Am I right about this?
pvIII i don't need cop shows, by the_fin	Nov 27th, 2007 06:44:03 PM
i need shows about choirs. and if they could just battle it out for choir supremacy that would be awesome too. Plus they could sing and use giant q-tips whilst in battle! PURE GOLD!!
Mel Gibsteinberg by nalapou	Nov 27th, 2007 06:49:59 PM
In your Talkback terms lecture, you forgot 'gravitas'. Good call on the "sexiest tomboy beanpole" though, very good call FAMMIT!
Nalapou by Mel Gibsteinberg	Nov 27th, 2007 06:53:50 PM
Oh I am sure there are plenty more that I forgot "BROTHER" but those were the ones I could think of right away.
I like Fammit. by Steve_Dooku	Nov 27th, 2007 06:59:28 PM
I would say that Livia's job is harder than Dan's, but she seems to have been doing it longer and more tuned in to what is happening. Last night, when Dan got back to his house, was he un-wounded? Didn't somebody even say that? I gotta go watch it again.....
Did anyone catch the line about Dan's medicine by Wed Vid Guy	Nov 27th, 2007 07:24:14 PM
That it was 20 year old medicine or something?
Ampicillin's still around, but won't do shit with these bugs we by cromulent	Nov 27th, 2007 07:40:48 PM
Bacteria these days are much more stronger and resistant to antibiotics. So since he got shot present day, with a present day tougher strain of bacteria, treating it with wimpy Ampicillin back in the 80's wouldn't do anything. But she said something about a virus, which is wrong, since virus and bacteria are totally different.
Devil in the Details by growltiger	Nov 27th, 2007 08:17:19 PM
The hook with ampicillin treating an infection from this era was a nice touch. On the other hand I thought I spied a late model Jeep Wrangler in the past (round headlights versus square) when Dan had his run in with an automobile. But I feel generous towards Journeyman because it gets a lot of nifty bits of trivia in most of their views to the past. The pseudo Patty Hearst episode had a swinging singles party where the guests were excited over the prospect of a bottle of Blue Nun. LOL. I need to mention that I too found the encounter with Jack & Livia in the lift compelling. Even if it was spoiled in the previews. Reed Diamond and Moon Bloodgood played that scene well. The look on Jack's face when he sees Livia standing in the hallway was priceless. I, too, hope this series gets a full season order.
FULL SEASON ORDER - where do I sign the petition! by theycallmemrglass	Nov 27th, 2007 08:18:51 PM
Well where do I sign?
It was a staph infection by Steve_Dooku	Nov 27th, 2007 08:31:42 PM
that the nurse alluded to, so she was right.
Full season order, fammit! by VegasRon	Nov 27th, 2007 08:44:03 PM
Why is this even uncertain, NBC?
Livia. by CatVutt	Nov 27th, 2007 09:09:36 PM
Interesting point on whether her or not her job is harder because she's going forward...but we really don't know that she hasn't also gone backwards, do we? If I'm wrong, somebody correct me...I fully confess to zoning out during some of those early episodes before this thing really grabbed me. FULL SEASON ORDER NOW, FAMMIT!
Best new show on broadcast TV Fall 2007 is Journeyman by OSPerry	Nov 27th, 2007 09:23:02 PM
This would be yet another fatal mistake to not order a full season from the "Must See TV" network. Hopefully the bird brain peacocks will get their heads out of the sand and see what a great show this is. It has me thinking about it all week and the possible storylines that can be told. Very smartly written and the actors are terrific too.
6.18 million up from by localhero12	Nov 27th, 2007 10:01:28 PM
5.75 mil according to televisionista
Who makes a good time traveler? by I Hope You Die	Nov 27th, 2007 10:02:12 PM
I had a script idea many years ago where the best people to be put in a situation similar to Dan's would be basement dwelling nerds. Their frequent absences wouldn't radically alter the time line because they had such little effect on history. The revelation this week that Livia had to hook Dan and Katie up got me thinking. Perhaps Dan, similarly, needed a family who wouldn't freak out too much, preserving the time line for whoever is behind the time travel. That would place whoever is behind it in the future. (If they were in Dan's present, presumably they wouldn't care.) The show obviously has a concept of a semi-flexible time line and I suppose the manipulators are manipulating those events they can (because they're isolated somehow?), avoiding the confusing morass of others. Then again, maybe the writers haven't thought it through that much.
Livias face is as round as her tits and ass by Swollen_balls_low_hung_too	Nov 27th, 2007 10:26:58 PM
Shes got a face like a strippers left booby.
FULL SEASON ORDER NOW, NBC!! by CatVutt	Nov 27th, 2007 10:42:54 PM
FLAMMIT! Did I already mention this?
My FAMMIT has a first name... by Triceratops on Fire	Nov 27th, 2007 10:53:15 PM
It's J-O-U-R-N-...uh...E..um, k, this doesn't work. But ketchup sandwiches sure as heck do! FAMMIT! Hehe. LOVE it! (and JOURNEYMAN too)
LOL, Catvutt by nalapou	Nov 27th, 2007 11:00:41 PM
I love that you misspelled the misspelled Dammit, otherwise known as Fammit, "Flammit" in your last post, hahaha. In other news I just watch yesterday's episode again and I am now even more pissed off that I'm not seeing a new episode next week. BOYCOTT LIFE FAMMIT!!! FULL SEASON ORDER!!
LOL I did, didn't I. by CatVutt	Nov 27th, 2007 11:18:49 PM
GODFAMMIT!
Need a full season order NBC!!! by Icht Buff	Nov 27th, 2007 11:43:38 PM
I'm with those guys above that said Heroes and Chuck are just killing time before Journeyman. I saw the first ep of Journeyman and was hooked. Problem is this show is too smart and too good for most of the retards out there.
WHAT am I missing?! by Mista Mann	Nov 28th, 2007 12:27:04 AM
I keep seeing talkbackers go on and on and on and fucking ON about this show. I watched the first 10 minutes of the pilot and I found it atrocious. The acting, the dialogue, the pacing, just BLECH. But there must be something here I'm missing. I guess I'll sit down and watch the first 3 eps at least so I can know for certain.
Mista Mann by gotilk	Nov 28th, 2007 01:44:48 AM
Skip the first 3. Go from 4 on.
Xiphos. by gotilk	Nov 28th, 2007 02:01:47 AM
Good question. Discuss! Personally, if it's like a real boobie, that's a good thing. If it looks like a fake one, and you feel that's a good thing, you're probably at least bisexual.
Wasn't Monday's episode #10? by JohnnyS2	Nov 28th, 2007 02:12:44 AM
According to Epguides, it was. Am I mistaken?
TVrage.com lists it as ten. by gotilk	Nov 28th, 2007 02:15:29 AM
..and it also list the show, unfortunately accurately, as "on the bubble". It also says the next episode will not air until Dec 10th.
Petition (I am sure one of many) by gotilk	Nov 28th, 2007 02:17:32 AM
http://www.petitiononline.com/ jmf/
snifff....please NBC...sniff..please by closeencounter	Nov 28th, 2007 02:34:06 AM
Dont cancel...sniff Journeyman...please..........* sniff....fammit.....sniff*
"My brother hasn't broken any laws." by IAmMrMonkey!	Nov 28th, 2007 09:47:47 AM
"No unless you count the laws of physics!" Best line of the series so far!
Next Monday's Episode by TVGuy Returns	Nov 28th, 2007 10:32:50 AM
Anyone else notice that NBC has pulled next Monday's episode of JMan for a new episode of the far superior Life?
I have no problem with 'Life'. by CatVutt	Nov 28th, 2007 11:08:24 AM
It's okay. Fairly standard fare, though, and I would hardly call it 'far superior' to the last 4-5 episodes of Journeyman. It's really just a far less goofy version of Burn Notice, frankly. But again, I have no problem with it. It's fine. But it already HAS its Full Season Order. What sucks is the Heroes season finale will probably get pretty good numbers (People are still watching that, right?), which may help inflate the 'Life' numbers in that timeslot.
I like life. by gotilk	Nov 28th, 2007 03:59:02 PM
But far superior? Phht. Look, it's a show about a guy with new money that was wrongly imprisoned. Interesting, but face it, it's not TIME TRAVEL AWESOME!
awesome by slkboxrman	Nov 28th, 2007 04:28:54 PM
i was on my seat for the whole episode...i thought the kid might be the guy in his house....would make sense as a test for dan, being that livia alluded to a sorta organization to what they do, and the consequences if they go off mission.."you havent seen nothing yet" i really thought that either dan was going to possibly kill the kid or change his life so significantly that the future would change and the guy would not be in his house..but i think that woulda caused a problem the writers might have been afraid to handle...if he kills the kid or changes his life the future changes, he never gets shot, etc...but my opinion on time problems like that is that once something happens it dont change,meaning dan would be shot in the new timeline even if he changed the circumstances that got him shot in the first place..love how they revealed the fbi guy as someone possibly tracking time travellers, seemingly knowing alot, not reporting any of it...and ultimately getting killed, nice loophole closed, especially since he never filed his investigation, because it was his own personal project...two best scenes of many were the interns reaction to the iphone in 1980, the ambulance drivers reaction when livia then dan jumped almost simultaneously in the back of the ambulance...jacks face when he saw livia, livia shoving the woman out of the elevator to talk to jack...the fbi guys proof of dan in different years, and dan, katie, and jack at the end with jack apologizing for taking so long to come along, and kate saying he had a very steep hill to climb......very awesome episode....this has to get a full season and multiple seasons.
orcus by slkboxrman	Nov 29th, 2007 12:52:54 AM
i know its not a precise term but tracking seems to fit.... hes figured out that dan has been time travelling and knows tht "THEY" plural..."always need money"
si Orcus.... by just pillow talk	Nov 29th, 2007 07:00:04 AM
good thing the FBI isn't after us (yet)...
JMan is interesting? by TVGuy Returns	Nov 29th, 2007 09:21:49 AM
Loved Kidd in Rome. DVRed all the episodes up until last week. However, once I had 4 in the bank with no intention of watching them because the first 4-5 eps were crap, I gave up. Looks like I erased some good TV without watching them, but that seems to be the writers fault. On the other hand, Life was interesting from minute 1. And I am still creeped out by the lead's oddly small eyes and mouth. He looks like an alien in a poorly constructed human suit.
TVGuy Returns by just pillow talk	Nov 29th, 2007 01:49:55 PM
See, and I loved JourneyMan almost from the beginning, and it's gotten better and better. I have not watched Life, but the lead was great in the awesome Band of Brothers mini.
I spent them in 1986 by just pillow talk	Nov 30th, 2007 06:56:06 AM
I went to the World Series, since in my lifetime, I'll never see the Mets win another one again. Did a little too much partying...
nope.... by just pillow talk	Nov 30th, 2007 10:55:06 AM
Connecticut...

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