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Heres hoping it gets better...
by Wldmk
Nov 26th, 2007
02:51:24 AM
The last few eps were a step in the right direction, i just hope they maintain it for the next two...
Umm
by Mezzanine
Nov 26th, 2007
02:51:28 AM
First? Not that it matters, last week was good, but if this is the penultimate episode, this will go down as the worst second season ever.
Herc, I disagree about the resurrection
by BadMrWonka
Nov 26th, 2007
03:03:03 AM
that's one of the BIGGEST PROBLEMS with this season. whereas last season, they would show you something pretty shattering, and then the episode would end, now they show you something like that, and then show you the outcome 80 seconds later. WHY?

the best part of season 1 was all the speculation about what was going to happen (or what actually happened sometimes). last season they would end with Noah on the ground dead. maybe we would all be thinking he'd be ressurected, but at least it would be out there. They are constantly dropping bombs this season, and then 2 minutes later saying, "oh don't worry, it's alright". wait a week!! let it marinate!!

Heroes is still good TV, but it seems to be coasting a little bit at the moment.

Elle's going down...
by Zardoz
Nov 26th, 2007
03:04:41 AM
...on Adam/Kensei, that is!
Elle's going down...
by Zardoz
Nov 26th, 2007
03:04:41 AM
...on Adam/Kensei, that is!
Holy shnikies, i'm actually first on a AICN talkback?
by Wldmk
Nov 26th, 2007
03:45:11 AM
... BadMrWonka: agree with most what you're saying, though i think in the case of the resurrection that they wanted to take advantage of the momentary shock of the viewers at the immediate sight of the death to make the dramatic effect of the ressurection stronger, whereas if they'd have waited a week or few, it might have "lost its touch" in a sense - not that it would actually be less dramatic IMO, but that they thought it would, hence the end of ep return to life. At any rate, at least they're learning gradually from their mistakes, so it would seem, which is more than can be said for many shows. Here's hoping that el wonder twins finally head down the road to doom, or at the very least partial sylarization, which seems might occur tonight...
I thought the HRG coming back to life scene...
by Mr. Profit
Nov 26th, 2007
04:08:38 AM
Was supposed to mirror the Claire/Autopsy Table scene in Season 1. Anyhow, it's truly embarassing how many plot holes this season has had. I hope that the writers strike is resolved so we can get the 2nd half of season 2. Hopefully the writers will get it right next time.
too many "reset buttons"...
by couP
Nov 26th, 2007
04:33:00 AM
as someone said last week, with all these healing and time travelling characters, no one important will die.

And there's a difference between answering questions quickly and within two minutes or whatever it was to show that HRG was alive, which was in itself a cop out to these paintings of the future that they throw in our faces, only to twist; they're basically like previews for the next week when they try and fool the audience, except that these happen several episodes later instead of the following week.

I'm still not sure why the company didn't taken Adam's blood either, but hopefully they'll get around to explaining that.
Still only on season 1
by meatygoodness
Nov 26th, 2007
04:50:58 AM
And not even a hooked viewer, but seeing "so and so sat this episode out" - i'm seeing pretty much every major character from the first season sitting things out. Isn't that a bit unusual? Or just shit?
Yes, characters sat weeks out
by Lukecash
Nov 26th, 2007
05:10:28 AM
The way that Hero works is that one or two of the stories would sit themselves out.

This season has been pretty damn entertaining for this Heroes fans. However Herc is particularly picking nits.

In the exchange between Noah and Bob, BOTH girls had to be up and walking under their own power. Hence Elle was allowed a lot more freedom than she should have been. It was a misjudgment on Noahs part.

And while I agree that Noah resurrection may have come at a strange time-they may have reasons to do what they did.

Mr. Muggles, FEAR HIM!
by EvilWizardGlick
Nov 26th, 2007
05:29:28 AM
Mr. Muggles is the evil behind the scenes. Now that he has consumed Claire's missing toe he is nigh immortal. NOTHING can stop his terrifying conquest of mankind.

NOTHING!!!!!!

Losing hope..
by DarthScotland
Nov 26th, 2007
05:35:06 AM
..After watching his heroic cousin captured by a street gang, Micah turns to the one person who can help him save Monica -- his mom. Haahahahahahahhha, if those characters weren't sucky and boring enough now they get involved with Street gangs, ooooh. If this was the calibre of writing we could have expected then thank god for the writers strike. I too thought last week was still in suck mode. Other than Parkman getting better no character or power has developed at all, most have regressed. /me boooos at Heroes
‘What The Hell Have You Done??’
by palewook
Nov 26th, 2007
05:42:25 AM
flipped the channel and watch the replay of Dexter during heroes..thats what.
I Hope Adam Finally Does Something Villain-Worthy
by IAmMrMonkey!
Nov 26th, 2007
05:55:34 AM
Because, at the moment, all he's done is thrown himself off a building with Hiro's dad. Which, I guess, is a very villainous but I'm just not getting a proper 'bad guy' vibe from him.

This show needs some good villains. They're heroes, after all, and heroes need good villains. I wanna see Adam break a random kids neck, torture people and just generally be nasty.

I guess releasing a virus which is going to kill most of the world is pretty bad-ass but he almost seems too nice for such a scheme. If Mr Kring ever read a comic book, he'd see what real supervillains are like.

I guess what I'm saying is that Adam doesn't appear to pose that much of a threat.

Still haven't watched Numb3rs or Razor
by chrth
Nov 26th, 2007
06:06:34 AM
Too much football this weekend. But I should still be watching this tonight.
Heroes has blown its wad
by Mazzke
Nov 26th, 2007
06:51:28 AM
The problem with Heroes is simple. At the risk of mixing metaphors, the show blew its wad in season one and painted themselves into a corner. They gave two characters, Peter and Sylar, absolutely god-like powers that would literally put every comic-book hero ever made to shame. Between them, they can stop time, teleport, insta-heal, fly, perform telekineses, read minds, shape shift, move through objects, use super strength and a million other things; as if that wasn't bad enough, they can also continue to pick up abilities indefinitely. How could the writers possibly create a more interesting hero or a new, more threatening villain?

I think one can see how this mistake led to all the problems of season 2. They had no choice but to pursue retarded ways to take away those abilities; Peter gets a pathetic case of amnesia, while Sylar gets inexplicably neutered. Meanwhile, every new hero now seems boring in comparison. In terms of the epic feel of the show, there was just nowhere for the story to go but down.

The only way I could see them getting out of this hole is by somehow linking the Chanti virus to the existence of Peter and Sylar's power-absorbing abilities. They could then plausibly write out those story-handicapping powers by saying all such heroes need to be sacrificed to save mankind. As much as like the characters, Peter and Sylar need to go if Heroes is to be viable again in season 3.
18th
by ironic_name
Nov 26th, 2007
06:55:41 AM
!
To recap: I'm back on board.
by Kubla_Khan
Nov 26th, 2007
07:12:53 AM
I liked last week's ep, the first one this season that seemed to have some chops. But I worry that the weakest elements - twins, Monica - will suck any momentum out of the story tonight. We'll see. For the moment...I'm cautiously optimistic - but expecting not a lot...
Adam/Kensei will have to take a number...
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
07:23:10 AM
On any 'going down' stuff. :)
The likely second-season finale.
by ATARI
Nov 26th, 2007
07:44:51 AM
You mean hopefully second-season finale -- so they can take some time off and find some good writers for season three next fall.
so, Adams blood resurrected Noah
by ATARI
Nov 26th, 2007
07:49:10 AM
Trust me, I know I'm right about this.
Just saying I'm still in, probably because
by sfgeek
Nov 26th, 2007
08:35:02 AM
I've been brainwashed to be in. How can one pull themselves away from a show that at least shows promise? I just want to see what happens. I can look past all the non-believable "why didn't he/she do this?" scenarios, but really, I've just been brainwashed to "tune in" next week, "for the exciting conclusions on Heroes!" Somebody please help me!
Cap'n Jack
by Kubla_Khan
Nov 26th, 2007
08:36:29 AM
You're right. Don't try and make sense of it, there isn't any. Heroes has some of the most inconsistent concepts around. I still think they should seriously trim the cast.
Xiphos and I will be especially watching for...
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
08:55:02 AM
Elle v. Claire. I don't want Elle to turn babyface just yet. After she deals with her and West (and crispy-critters him, maybe?), she can put 2 and 2 together and realize Bob's not Father of the Year material.
BTW, X...
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
08:56:02 AM
I can't stop laughing at "Telemundo Twins". :D
Flying guy is the whole problem
by Mooly
Nov 26th, 2007
08:59:18 AM
Get rid of that creepy douchebag and 90% of what is wrong with this season goes away. However, I think the criticism this week is weak. Why doesn't he fly when Noah is on top of him? I don't know...how can my girlfriend pick me up and carry me around when were standing, but can't get up when I'm on top of her? Two totally different weights and preassures. Why didn't Elle zap them right away? Who cares, she's killer hot. Plus Noah just told her that her own father tortured her and made her crazy when she was a child. But if we're going to criticise electric powers, how is it elle can control electricity, hold a balls of electricity in her hand...but yet still electrocute herself when wet? THAT doesn't make sense. And the reason we all know Noah wasn't dead isn't because we are all super geniuses...it's because the death didn't match the painting so it couldn't have been predicted. Every other painting in Season 1 and (so far) Season 2 have exactly matched the reality. In this painting, Noah is shot, at night (it seems) and clair appears to be kissing somebody in the background. However what actually happens is Noah gets shot in the daytime and Claie and the flying guy are long gone. So either that wasn't what was predicted, or the show has screwed up again. But I agree, the show is nowhere near as tight as last season, and has tons of issues. But I still enjoy it.
Why isn't Niki/Jessica/Gina just called "Crazy Jane"?
by SpyGuy
Nov 26th, 2007
08:59:30 AM
Because that's what she is...Crazy Jane from Grant Morrison's DOOM PATROL series. I gotta say, though, an episode with Parkman using his telepathic powers to go "underground" into Niki's mindscape and interacting with her various personalities could be pretty damn cool if done correctly.
GINIKKICA!
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
09:02:01 AM
Problem solved.
Has anyone or evreyone said this
by Lane_myers111
Nov 26th, 2007
09:03:24 AM
Has anyone else suggested that the future that Peter went to was not full of dead bodies killed by the virus but they were all killed by Sylar with Maya's power.
Painting misinterpreted?
by Mixiboi
Nov 26th, 2007
09:55:12 AM
Just like real painting? Say it ain't so! I wonder if there is a forum out there where people fight over what a paining means..*looks around* Oh..
we need an X-men series
by BMacSmith
Nov 26th, 2007
09:59:00 AM
X-men works better as a serial and Heroes has always sucked.
Why is there a Heroes TB and no Dexter TB???
by Ashok0
Nov 26th, 2007
10:06:15 AM
Dexter the Dark Defender > Nikki/Peter/Hiro/Adam/West/Cla ire/Elle/Telemundo Twins/Mica/Matt/Sylar
Ditto IAmMrMonkey! on weak villains
by Ashok0
Nov 26th, 2007
10:11:51 AM
Seriously... look at Michael C. Hall or Michael Emerson on Dexter and LOST. Those are some amazing written "villians"... although you could argue that they could be "good guys" in a dark, sadistic way. Heroes lacks these kinds of characters... David Anders is okay, but, he doesn't quite do it for me (yet).
Do Super-Powers Fade Away in Time?
by C.K. Lamoo
Nov 26th, 2007
10:12:18 AM
None of the original group seem all that powerful anymore. Ma Petrelli, Hiro's Dad, Claire's mother, Linderman, even Bob, all seem kind of burned out. The only one who seemed tough was the the Nightmare Man and he was taken out fairly easily by his son.
heartburn
by NudeandAroused
Nov 26th, 2007
10:18:28 AM
I truly don't get much heartburn on this show. Last weeks was Ok I guess. The highlight must be, and I am surprised it wasn't mentioned, Elle laying out on a lounge chair in a bikini. Gives the show an automatic four stars alone.
DEXTER TALK BACK PLEASE
by Stormwatcher
Nov 26th, 2007
10:18:45 AM
DEXTER is a show that hasn't slid in the 2nd year but gotten even better. Last night kicked so much ass It was like Ep 4 Season 3 of Battlestar Galactica in terms of a 'Did that just happen' moment. Thrilling. Damn you Herc and AINC for shutting this show out
I Agree with my above post; DEXTER DEXTER DEXTER DAMMIT
by Stormwatcher
Nov 26th, 2007
10:19:14 AM
Have to get the ball rolling.
best episode ever??
by ragingfluff
Nov 26th, 2007
10:27:10 AM
In Season One when we learned HRG's background (with the invisible man as partner) and watched in rapt attention as he begged the Haitian to wipe his memory ("Go Deep") to protect his daughter and family. Nothing in the rest of season one and certainly nothing in season 2 has come close to the level of that episode, both in terms of advancing/expanding the mythology and in terms of the writing/direction/acting/editi ng, etc... Last week was good...it explained a few things, had one stellar line ("stings like a bitch")...but...I'm at the point where I'm starting not to care. Really. The cheerleader has turned into a whining brat. Send her ass off to military school. Her character can only be redeemed for me when she gets into a seriously shit hot KILL BILL style bitchin' catfight with the electric girl. If that happens and they do it properly, the season may be salvaged.
The Official NBC Blurb...
by Mike-El
Nov 26th, 2007
10:39:06 AM
...says "The likely second-season finale"?
hey you know what else is cool?
by zom-bot.com
Nov 26th, 2007
10:41:49 AM
all kinds of BATMAN/DARK KNIGHT stuff is happening and AICN has got their fingers in their ears and are humming to ignore it. Check out a new reveal at (remove the space in 'coming') http://www.empireonline.com/he isco ming/ shame on you guys for treating the DK campaign like this.
Chapter 3???
by INWOsuxRED
Nov 26th, 2007
10:57:35 AM
I saw a scroll on G4 that said Chapter 3 will be called "Exodus", but I missed much of the post show. Did they give any details other than that? Did I just read the scroll completely wrong?
I'ma miss these Heroes talkbacks...
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
10:59:53 AM
Hopefully the writers and AMPTP will realize both are staggering toward an abyss that will do them both in and pull back from the brink before the rest of this season is done for. :(
The virus according to the online comic book...
by Prof. Pop-Cult
Nov 26th, 2007
11:00:13 AM
...Is not controlled by Sylar. It appears to be "out there" and spreading rapidly. It appears to be Maya's virus power spreading on its own in the future. The comic book so far has not come into conflict with the continuity of the TV show and vice versa.
piggy back rides
by INWOsuxRED
Nov 26th, 2007
11:02:21 AM
I can run, I can give someone piggy back rides, so naturally I should be able to give someone a piggy back ride while I'm flat on my stomach, and they're twisting my arm and all I can concentrate on is the horrific pain. Yes, I spotted a PLOT HOLE in my inabillity to give piggy back rides!
Plot holes
by MasterOdin
Nov 26th, 2007
11:14:04 AM
I agree with the other poster about the plot holes. It is getting really bad. If Hiro can stop time to see Adam is his father's killer, he better be able to stop time and catch him the second his father is killed (since he has to let his father die for whatever reason).
Other than for Battlestar Galactica, I think all of these shows
by Prof. Pop-Cult
Nov 26th, 2007
11:14:38 AM
I know I'm in the minority here, but actually I'm sort of relieved by the possibility of only having a half season of shows to watch (and keep up with). Ultimately, perhaps this strike will change the way network TV series are produced. I think we're at the point now where it would make the most sense (for everybody involved: the studios, the networks, the advertisers, the producers, actors, writers, and viewers) if 13 episodes became the standard full season order for a scripted series. That way, the quality of the writing could be better per season, and there could be more original series produced. (You would have two shows that occupy the same timeslot: One in the Fall, and the other in the Spring.) It really feels like a chore (for me at least) to keep up with 22+ episodes every season. The major broadcast networks should do it like the way the cable networks do it.
Hiro should have catched Adam?
by ulcer
Nov 26th, 2007
11:19:34 AM
And do what with him? Adan is invincible?
MasterOdin
by cyrent
Nov 26th, 2007
11:31:40 AM
According to the rules which they've set up regarding time travel, Hiro can't stop Adam in the time before he returned to the present and gotten the bad news from Ando, at risk of disrupting the continuum, changing the present and future.
Noah's Job at Copy Kingdom
by Acappellaman
Nov 26th, 2007
11:39:07 AM
That was apparently The Company's front-end business. He would have been able to access some executive materials over time, which is why he manhandled his dorky manager early on, so he could do some sneaking around without getting reported. That's what I *thought* the plan was. If anybody couldn't see that Adam killed Hiro's dad from a mile away, they haven't been paying attention. I knew he was the killer as soon as Hiro stole his princess and he went all rogue on Hiro.
Numb3rs was great on Friday
by chrth
Nov 26th, 2007
11:54:04 AM
Wil Wheaton, Christopher Lloyd, Comic Book Geekery, Joe Morton sporting a weird hairdo. ****
This show is fantastic.
by AngelCordy
Nov 26th, 2007
12:13:56 PM
Your disdain is getting a little tiring.
This shows ressurected itself with the last 2 episodes
by theycallmemrglass
Nov 26th, 2007
12:25:33 PM
Not that I ever threatened to abandon the series but I did share the general feeling that the second season was below par the standard of the dirst series. One thing is for sure - Noah Bennet is one Badass MF and has not even got any superpower. Definitely he is the biggest asset of the show - lose him and I reckon they'll lose a chunk of the audience. This whole wrapping up the series half way sucks big time though...
Nathan killed Kaito #1
by samurai sark
Nov 26th, 2007
12:33:04 PM
In the first ep, Kaito is waiting in Kirby Plaza for Hiro to return. Ando, carrying a newspaper, bumps into a bearded Nathan in the street. When Kaito opens the paper, the death threat is inside. Easy for Nathan to slip it in the paper.
'Nay' for 13 episode-seasons...
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
12:33:50 PM
Too short. TV did have 36 or so-week seasons in its infancy, 22 now...I don't want to wind up emulating England, with their 6-episode miniseries-es. Just not ready for that yet.
Nathan killed Kaito #2
by samurai sark
Nov 26th, 2007
12:35:25 PM
When drunk Nathan fights with his mother in the apartment (when he calls her evil and tells her to get out), she finds a her death-threat pinned to the wall in the hallway. Nathan was the last person to enter the room, last one in the hallway. Easy for Nathan to pin the threat.
Nathan killed Kaito #3
by samurai sark
Nov 26th, 2007
12:36:56 PM
Kaito dragged his attacker over the edge of the building, but there is no body. Easy for Nathan to fly away.
Nathan killed Kaito #4
by samurai sark
Nov 26th, 2007
12:40:50 PM
I realize they showed Adam's face, but Nathan DID take Adam's blood. Perhaps a shape-shifting side effect? Kaito had an affair with Nathan's mom. It could have driven his father to depression and give Nathan a motive... Or not.
i thought nathan killed kaito too
by zom-bot.com
Nov 26th, 2007
12:47:38 PM
...i'm not sure where they are going with adam, but i think it's his blood that actually causes the virus, not stops it. And why is Hiro the only one who seems to conveniently lose or get his powers back? Everyone else is learning new techniques for their powers except Hiro. I think the only way to stop adam the immortal is if Hiro learn how to cast time-stopping 'bubbles' or zones that he could literally trap Adam in one indefinately.
Last week was great
by Crimean
Nov 26th, 2007
12:59:55 PM
Off Topic - Strike's Almost Over?
by Abin Sur
Nov 26th, 2007
01:01:27 PM
http://tinyurl.com/2owplt
Can Bob Goldify Adam?
by fedaykin
Nov 26th, 2007
01:02:14 PM
If so, I'm betting Bob goes King Midas on 400 Year Old Elle Humper. Or maybe Peter does, using Bob's power, once he realizes he's being duped. At any rate, something excellent needs to happen with Sylar and the TTs very soon. I'm also curious how they managed to get from the US/Mexico border to the outskirts of New York within 24 hours of "episode time"...unless tonight's episode takes place several days to a week after HRG got popped. Very curious to see Parkman's further development tonight as well. Maybe his tracking down the broad who wants to be left alone will result in some Old Guard power usage?
But
by Crimean
Nov 26th, 2007
01:02:50 PM
I think they can only do one good episode per year. And it's tough not to notice that they get good when they focus on fewer characters per episode. I hope that plague does hit and takes out almost all the new characters(except the ones in the company) and a few of the old ones as well.
duplicate powers- more questions
by zom-bot.com
Nov 26th, 2007
01:30:04 PM
I haven't heard many theories as to why there are characters with essentially the same powers.

from what we've seen, Adam and Claire's powers are the same. The company also wanted both of their blood. Is one a virus maker and one a virus cure? are they somehow related? How does a flying guy and a trailer trash pyro make an indestructable baby?

Nathan and the flying emo kid...it's a fairly weak power, but they both have it with no other obvious side benefits. A power of mere plot convenience, coincidence, or more? relation? that would make claire and Emo kissing siblings or something.

HRG and flying emo boy becoming best buds. Okay so they begrudgingly buddied up because they both love Claire- well, Emo never asked HRG just what the hell he ever abducted him for in the first place, and HRG never fessed up and apologized either. Because to explain what the company is doing would be too easy. so let's avoid it.

Claire and emo shot out of sky: fall down go boom. Even with Emo falling on top of claire- that was pretty fucking high for him to not be seriously injured, or for her to have gotten up so quick. She should have popped like a pinata and pulled her self back together T2 style, right before Emo's shocked eyes. he'd never look at her the same.

linderman: who and why? there's been no mention of him whatsoever. did he have a power? who is he really? Until they re-introduced an imprisoned Adam, i thought linderman may have been a slowly aged Adam- seeing as how he had Hiro's sword, and are both light eyed english dudes. i can imagine the phase-shifting brain squeeze being enough to kill Adam as well. Maybe linderman WAS an Adam that slowly aged over the centuries and came to power, and the young Adam in present time (imprisoned for 30 years?) is one that Hiro goes back to old Japan for (for some reason- revenge? justice? a cure?) and teleports into the future (30 years ago), somehow unkowingly doing some work for the company?

..more
by zom-bot.com
Nov 26th, 2007
01:31:50 PM
..that would mean that there are two adams in roughly the same time period. Young Adam (in company prison) Old Adam/AKA Linderman running the show......or maybe Linderman is Adam's son? i feel the two are connected.
oh and-
by zom-bot.com
Nov 26th, 2007
01:32:46 PM
(fuck the unediting posts) the symbol of the linderman group was also Adam's old japanese mark- duh.
Woah, the Adam - Linderman thing
by samurai sark
Nov 26th, 2007
01:39:41 PM
is warping my fragile mind, man. If you thought Nathan was the killer, how did you get around the "Angela clawing herself" part? My theory, she discovered Nathan killed Kaito, and confessed to protect her son.
Oh, and Linderman...
by samurai sark
Nov 26th, 2007
01:42:12 PM
is Adam's son. I'm casting my vote there. Linderman's mom? Rachael Ray
Xiphos, hope you're doing better...and HRG>>>Jack Bauer
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
01:44:59 PM
Word.
did they ever reveal
by samurai sark
Nov 26th, 2007
01:46:30 PM
How the haitian caught the virus? I missed that. One minute he's punching the snot out of Peter, wiping his mind, and leaving him for dead in a shipping crate (as a 'favor'); and the next minute he's in Haiti refusing to be cured. Wha-Happen?
Herc, he got the job at Copy Kingdom because . . .
by underscore_only
Nov 26th, 2007
01:49:25 PM
Everyone now . . . CLAIRE GOTTA EAT!!
Sylar questions:
by zom-bot.com
Nov 26th, 2007
01:49:54 PM
You could say Sylar's power is like Peter's, only he has to kill the other person to absorb a power.

well, didn't mohinder's dad tell him he did not have a power? was it a lie? if he never had a power, than who was his first victim he got a power from? was is only power unzipping people's heads? what shit is that? does he eat the brains? pick them apart? how exactly does the power transfer go about? they need some more background there, we've all taken it at face value too long.

linderman/heal
by zom-bot.com
Nov 26th, 2007
01:52:45 PM
oh yeah, see i forgot that because they've basically swept mention of him under the rug.

gee, maybe laying on hands is something that the self-healing Adam would pass down genetically or learn over a long life.

The real thing lacking in "Heroes" is solid mythology
by Ashok0
Nov 26th, 2007
01:54:21 PM
Seriously, LOST spent its first 2 years building a very solid groundwork of numbers/DHARMA/Six Degrees/Smokey/Blast Door Map/Hatches/Flight 815/Desmond and Penny/Mittletos Bioscience/Fertility Experimentation/Naomi's Ship/Claire's Baby/etc. Heroes has given us a ghetto wanna-be "X-Files" Syndicate organization called The Company, and some boring "X-Files" Black Oil wanna be virus called Chanti. But HRG does rock the house.
AshokO
by zom-bot.com
Nov 26th, 2007
01:57:34 PM
yeah- i was just about to say- Sylar worked in season one because he was very 'X-files' at the beginning. we didn't know who he was or how he did it. now we know him, sometimes sympathize with him, but we still don't understand his power to kill and take power. Why the head unzipping (you know what i mean) but seriously- what else can he do with that finger an inch away from stuff? peel fruit? open a CD wrapper? He'd be great at christmas.
Adam the petulant immortal
by Trik_Ster
Nov 26th, 2007
02:01:09 PM
is a monumentally stupid villain concept. *The girl I lust for fell in love with you Hiro, now I'm going to hunt you thru time and kill the world!*

Vapid

At least Heroes is better than...
by shatfanat
Nov 26th, 2007
02:02:15 PM
...a lot of the other bullshit on TV. My wife watches America's Next Top Model for crying out loud. Granted, I find myself constantly wondering what's happening in the Monday Night Football game, but I'd still pick Heroes over anything else on in the same time slot.
Sylar's power is
by samurai sark
Nov 26th, 2007
02:09:06 PM
being able to understand how anything works by analyzing it. By seeing the brain, he can rearrange the areas of his mind to integrate and adapt the new ability.
Sylar's power is
by samurai sark
Nov 26th, 2007
02:11:32 PM
to continue an acting career before Peter can make another Fergie video.
Hiro and Adam
by zom-bot.com
Nov 26th, 2007
02:15:38 PM
ha- kinda like i said about Hiro trapping Adam in a bubble of still-time (hiro really needs to learn some new abilities, btw) like someone just said- it'd be funny if the only way to keep adam (or sylar, for that matter)from doing whatever it is that he's gonna try to do (whatever, i still think he's a good guy and there is good reason to pick off the oldsters)- would be for hiro to keep bumping him forward in time. You can't hurt the present if you are fucking up the future, and when the future comes that adam suddenly materialises, you bump his ass up again. Personally, i think an immortal trapped in a frozen time zone would be quite torturous and ironic.
Who said last week sucked?
by zooch
Nov 26th, 2007
02:24:33 PM
I didn't hear one person complaining about last week's episode. I only heard good things.
zom-bot.com's questions about sylar and linderman
by BigMick
Nov 26th, 2007
02:35:59 PM
They killed Linderman in the finale of season 1. They've mentioned him twice in this season. Once at the beginning of the season when Bob tells Mohinder that they're rebuilding the company in the wake of what Linderman has done (re: trying to blow up New York) and once when they say Linderman was a disciple of Adam's, which supports your idea that Linderman is Adam's son. There's no way that Linderman could be an older Adam b/c they've already established that Adam's ability allows his cells to regenerate thus preventing him from aging. With that said, does that mean Claire will remain a teenage forever? As for Sylar, Mohinder's dad couldn't detect a power in him b/c he hadn't absorbed any powers, same reason Mohinder couldn't detect powers in Peter. And we find out how he got the powers in the episode "6 Months Ago" in season 1, when Sylar meets a guy with telekinesis and smashes him in the head with a sculpture and than (as Xiphos said) figured out how to make his brain perform the same powers. I hope that helps, I know with all the pointless storylines (cough* twins, micah, monica, ginikkica*cough) it gets hard to pay attention to the details of the storylines that matter.
Better villains, cutting out characters, what's the deal with th
by BigMick
Nov 26th, 2007
02:42:09 PM
As was said before, this show does need some excellent villains. But season 1 did have an excellent villain in Sylar, only they placed him in a lame storyline this season. Losing all his powers seems so cliche. (As is Peters amnesia). They really need to cut out some of the characters like the twins, micah, monica, and wes. I say keep Nikki but get rid of her personalities, b/c Ali Larter is hot and the show needs a character with super strength. Keep Peter but find a way to get rid of his ridiculous amount of powers. They should just tell us what the deal is with the Company, it's quickly turning into a cliche of "The Other" from Lost. And frankly getting tiresome: are they/are they not evil? The fact that I've used cliche the amount of times I did in this post just kind of shows how much of a cliche this show is becoming
why Elle didn't use her power
by zooch
Nov 26th, 2007
02:44:26 PM
I thought it was her plan was to make HRG think he was making a trade for Claire and then once free turn around and shoot.
Ok, just watched Razor
by chrth
Nov 26th, 2007
02:45:33 PM
**** (loses a star due to its Baltar-free status). Good stuff, loved "By Your Command" and the ship landing on Kara's.
Yet another post
by BigMick
Nov 26th, 2007
02:54:20 PM
Sorry for another post, but I just found this talkback and I've been bottling up these comments on Heroes for so long, haha. The general consensus seems to be that the second season is seriously lacking and just not up to par. I totally have to agree, the first season wasn't great for the first half but picked up the pace in the second half. This season seems to be doing the exact same formula and it just doesn't work in the second season. There's no reason why these people will still be struggling so much with their powers, they should all have a good handle on them by now. With that said, I'm still gonna see the rest of this season through, and hopefully the last 2 episodes make up for what we've had to sit through the last few months. But if they don't come out with a bang in the 3rd season, I don't think Heroes is going to make it to Spring of 2008.
Angela clawed herself because and Xiphos and Wonka
by ororo_munroe
Nov 26th, 2007
02:56:50 PM
Matt's Dad was giving her visions or whatever he does. Remember, he was working for Adam.

Xiphos - I agree, HRG doesn't need to give anyone an explanation or excuse. He is too bad ass to care.

I agree with you. I miss the cliff hangers this season.
i dont think zom-bot watched
by stemp11
Nov 26th, 2007
02:59:43 PM
season 1? did you? why are you asking these retarded questions?
Xiphos
by Trik_Ster
Nov 26th, 2007
03:04:15 PM
Yeah, Fu Manchu, Vandal Savage other guys I can't remember right now.

But all of them display greater depth than a high school sophmore, which Adam doesn't in any era that we've seen him in.

Sylar grows points on his ears and
by picardsucks
Nov 26th, 2007
03:04:50 PM
mind melds with annyoing token telemundo chick
also considering HRG
by zooch
Nov 26th, 2007
03:20:06 PM
was holding a gun to Elle's head the whole time and she knew she was going to be released, I know she has lighting powers and everything, but would she risk it? Waiting for the right moment was probably the smartest thing for her to do.
ha ha hey now-
by zom-bot.com
Nov 26th, 2007
03:33:18 PM
i watched season one- but i enjoyed the ride, really only ever watched them once through, don't own the set, and don't consider myself a superfan at all...

but i'm pretty sure we can all agree about plot holes and things that need to be answered before they get carried away and we forget to ask the right questions.

so perhaps some of my questions are stupid to those of you that have this shit memorized and have a hayden calendar and a sylar lunchbox and shit, but i consider myself only slightly more caring about the show than the average viewer at home, so if i'm confused or forgetful, it won't be long before america tops giving a shit about hereos. :/

Elle sucks...
by jojo-pimp
Nov 26th, 2007
03:35:18 PM
claire just needs to kill her ass already...what a shitty actress!

by zom-bot.com
Nov 26th, 2007
03:42:27 PM
was linderman really planning on blowing up new york?

i thought he was just buying isaac's paintings so he would know what would happen. In the end, NY didn't get mushroomed, so isaac's paintings were not always accurate- aka- the future can be changed. plus, the only things that would have made NYC explode were the nuclear guy or peter by absorbtion...did linderman choreograph them meeting- i don't remember.

the telemundo twins: obviously a life/death ying-yang theme going on. maya kills and her brother gives life. they've always been together to keep it in check. does the brother die and maya become uncontrollable? if sylar kills and takes both- do the powers negate withing him?

i say somewhere down the line, peter runs into maya's brother, absorbs 'life' power. Sylar doesn't seem to care or be fully aware of the brother's life powers- so maybe he kills him without taking. Then he kills maya, and can't contol the new power-

enter peter to save the day again.

heros solved
by zom-bot.com
Nov 26th, 2007
03:53:37 PM
Hiro is his own father

Maya and Bro adopt a purple monkey

Adam is sent for far back in time by Hiro, he truly becomes 'Adam', and that way Elle isn't the only character with a bad Pun name based on what she does.

;)

xiphos-
by zom-bot.com
Nov 26th, 2007
03:59:12 PM
thanks for reminding me without being rude about it-

guess i should rewatch before i go slinging theories around!

zom-bot: Xiphos is wrong
by chrth
Nov 26th, 2007
04:01:09 PM
Linderman et al. knew what was going to happen, but they didn't know how. They were not behind the explosion; they were behind the conspiracy to take advantage of it.
the old crew
by zom-bot.com
Nov 26th, 2007
04:18:59 PM
other than 'nightmare man' and linderman's healing touch and bob's midas touch...what other powers of the old crew have been revealed?

mrs. petrelli only spoke to the cop mentally because she knew he could hear her....so that's not her power. If they ever hinted at hers i missed it...and Hiro's pops...

and do we really believe that HRG is one of the only normal people that worked for the company?

how pissed would you guys be if he ended up having had a power he kept in the dark? though I imagine he would have shown it to Claire at some point during any one of their bonding moments...

thats what she said
by samurai sark
Nov 26th, 2007
04:28:50 PM
I imagine he would have shown it to Claire at some point during any one of their bonding moments...
arrgh, i hate that joke
by samurai sark
Nov 26th, 2007
04:29:30 PM
I can't stop!!!
Herc...
by Philvis
Nov 26th, 2007
04:35:51 PM
Flying boy could pick up HRG man because he had momentum. When he was flying with him, he told him he couldn't hold him much longer because he was heavy. When HRG was on top of him, he had no momentum to pick up the much heavier HRG. Physics and gravity and stuff like that.
my guesses on the other twelve's powers
by zooch
Nov 26th, 2007
04:37:18 PM
Angela Petrelli - some kind of mental ability similar, she can use persuasion on others like she did with Nathan's wife, she helped Peter with memory recovery, and knew Parkamn was reading her mind
Kaito Nakamura - somekind of super fighting ability, he was very skilled with a sword and was able to train Hero very quickly.
Charles Deveaux - we know he can appear in people's dreams even after his death, as he did with Peter
elder generations powers
by samurai sark
Nov 26th, 2007
04:41:19 PM
ELI LINDERMAN - heal with touch & cooking... JIMMY JOHN PETRILLI - super-speed & bagging GILF's. ANGELA PETRELLI - mental suggestion & GILF-iness... KAITO NAKAMURA - Freezing powers & business-savvy... BOB BARKER - Alchemy & producing babes... MAURY PARKMAN - mental fuckery & pie-eating... CHARLES DUVEAUX - time travel & pleasing that booty... VICTORIA PRATT - future painting & character name stealing... ADAM MUNROE - regeneration & bi-lingual & sexy.
Nah, jojo-pimp needs to suffer a worse fate.
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
04:49:43 PM
Free copies of the Viva Laughlin Complete Series DVD for him and all his friends. That'll learn him. ;)
Xiphos
by chrth
Nov 26th, 2007
04:54:33 PM
Xiphos: It was good, thanks. Hope you had a good one as well.
I'm torn, guys. Do I want to see Elle
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
05:00:59 PM
Fry West...or fry Alchemy Bob and hook up with Adam? And what about his 'moment of weakness six years ago'? Does Elle, of all people know a weakness that the rest of them don't?
adam's weakness?
by samurai sark
Nov 26th, 2007
05:09:38 PM
petite blondes.
Noah's Power
by Shepard Bauer
Nov 26th, 2007
05:17:52 PM
I submit that if Ando has the power of !Awesome! then Noah has the power of BADASS. All caps, no exclaimations and a period at the end. What does everyone think?
Chuck, Life get the full season pickup....
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
05:22:57 PM
Per TV Guide's Ausiello Report: http://tinyurl.com/366n4r. As much as Chuck has been a ratings albatross (as opposed to Deal or No Deal leading into Heroes a lot better when it was on Mondays). Can't believe I just said that, but the numbers don't lie.
Starts in 10 mins for me...
by VegasRon
Nov 26th, 2007
05:52:24 PM
...cuz i'm spesh like that.
You lucky bass-turd, VegasRon...
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
05:53:22 PM
;)
Non-spoilerish early impressions...
by VegasRon
Nov 26th, 2007
06:03:49 PM
...to follow.
Pennsy!
by VegasRon
Nov 26th, 2007
06:05:35 PM
Early ElleBell sighting!
One thing that slightly concerns me is...
by IAmMrMonkey!
Nov 26th, 2007
06:06:45 PM
..the writers are obviously tipping Peter towards the dark side. But there's only two episodes to go now...(I'll get back to this point in a second)

Now, as a poster above me pointed out, Peter's power level is going to cause / had already caused problems. The only ways out of this is (a) to reduce his power level somehow (b) make him a bad guy so the other heroes have to deal with all of his powers.

Okay, now they've already used option (a) at the start of this season and it was, I think most of us can admit, a bit lame. Now they're going with option (b). However, Peter turning to the dark side in two episodes is definitely not enough time. He'll most likely have some sort of fight with Hiro tonight (I'm guessing, having seen the trailer) and will probably be redeemed in the final.

A storyline like that needs MUCH longer to develop. Having Peter as a bad guy is a good idea (if only temporarily of course) but it's something that should have lasted an entire season. We should have seen Peter team up with Adam in the early stages of this season and then seen him take on several of the other Heroes in episodes 3 - 11.

But I'm worried they've now wasted this good idea on just episodes. UNLESS, this is all just a set up for next season where Peter continues his journey to 'the dark side' following his experiences in this season. But I very much doubt they're going to go with that, sadly.

ooo! I was right...
by VegasRon
Nov 26th, 2007
06:08:16 PM
...about Noah's rescuer. Good, it was the smart way to go(which is why I was still semi-surprised).
There's a streak on the line tonight re: Kristen Bell...
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
06:08:49 PM
If I give even a hint, it might give it away, so try to figure it out, if you want...
speaking of Belle...
by VegasRon
Nov 26th, 2007
06:11:59 PM
...I watched S1 of Deadwood yesterday and was surprised to see her in it. The role was short and a bit disappointing, but still, she was one cold-blooded bitch, lol.
How did Peter get DL's power?
by EvilWizardGlick
Nov 26th, 2007
06:21:59 PM
Peter was never close enough to pick up DL's power. He had to be 100 to 150 feet away.

So how did he get Dl's power? If he has Dl's from that distance he has to have Micahs as well.

Peter would also have to copy anyones power within that radius. Any stranger with power wandering by within 150 feet Peter taps.

Then why didn't he tap his mothers? Or Shaft dream guys?

Why can't he steal the Haitians?

Will Peter's mind reading power evolve like Parkman's?

Does Peters healing power get doubled now that he has stolen Adam's and combined it with Claire's?

Peter is way too fucking powerful for his own good.

Orleans and Telemundo Twins...
by VegasRon
Nov 26th, 2007
06:30:58 PM
...*yawn*
vegas ron...
by samurai sark
Nov 26th, 2007
06:38:45 PM
make sure you tell everyone exactly what we have to expect. That way, NO ONe will be surprised ;p
VegasRon...Deadwood
by ZoeFan
Nov 26th, 2007
06:42:24 PM
Episodes 7 and 8. She winds up being SUCH an evil bitch in those episodes. That girl CAN act.
Zoe...
by VegasRon
Nov 26th, 2007
06:49:33 PM
Your screenname in reference to another hot Bell? =)

Yeah, good stuff. A workmate was going on and on about Deadwood friday, so I figured I'd check it out over the weekend. LOVED S1.

Bell on Deadwood on YouTube...
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
06:50:03 PM
http://tinyurl.com/3656a7 (Part 1)

http://tinyurl.com/2jsogc (Part 2)

http://tinyurl.com/2oo7by (Part 3)

all the non-powered heroes...
by samurai sark
Nov 26th, 2007
06:54:03 PM
...suck. jk
sure thing, Sark
by VegasRon
Nov 26th, 2007
06:54:12 PM
Watch the first 10 mins then take a 30 min nap =p
VegasRon...
by ZoeFan
Nov 26th, 2007
06:55:28 PM
For me, and again this is just my opinion, but Episode 4 (Here was a Man), S1 of Deadwood is the BEST Episode of any TV show ever.
Hmmm...
by VegasRon
Nov 26th, 2007
06:58:20 PM
....Belle is only a bit taller than the cheerleader. Munchkins.
Would you believe...
by VegasRon
Nov 26th, 2007
06:59:21 PM
...the pirate service I use was missing ONE episode...guess which one!! =(
Hmmm...
by VegasRon
Nov 26th, 2007
07:01:28 PM
...interesting ending. No teaser for next week, though. Bastards.
Elle and why she didn't zap her way out
by ororo_munroe
Nov 26th, 2007
07:06:08 PM
Elle didn't fight, because she was thinking about what HRG told her. Did y'all miss the speach HRG gave Elle in his kitchen? Maybe she wanted to see *if her father were willing to do anything to save her just as HRG was willing to do for his little girl* Then the cold shoulder she gave her father in the van? I thought it was pretty clear.

Xiphos - we did, and I hope you weren't laid up in the hospital and miserable.
Okay, so overall
by VegasRon
Nov 26th, 2007
07:07:42 PM
inferior to last week's ep, though I knew that going in cuz of the Telemundo Twins, Sylar and Monica storylines.

Remember when Sylar was cool? The Twins + Sylar is probably the worst storyline of any show I've watched in recent years. My apathy for these characters couldn't be less.

VegasRon
by Al Swearengen
Nov 26th, 2007
07:11:33 PM
Welcome to fuckin' Deadwood.
EvilWizardGlick
by Mazzke
Nov 26th, 2007
07:24:50 PM
If you recall in season 1, Peter had to be trained by invisible guy for quite some time before he learned how to access and control the abilities he had already absorbed. If he accidentally gets a new ability that he doesn't know about and that ability isn't easily self-noticeable over time, then it's not much of a stretch to say he's unable to learn how to access it.
With hope that the WGA and AMPTP have seen the light...
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
08:00:00 PM
Here we go...
"There is no normal."
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
08:04:44 PM
DEXTER
by Spasmoyltic
Nov 26th, 2007
08:06:01 PM
Can we get a Dexter talkback please? This second season has been amazing.
The streak is broken...
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
08:10:20 PM
Every time Bell was in an episode before tonight, hers was the last scene of the prologue.
Hey Xiphos
by VegasRon
Nov 26th, 2007
08:13:13 PM
You need to rehab in vegas ;)
Wonder Twin Powers...Activate!
by kronos6948
Nov 26th, 2007
08:14:52 PM
Shape of...Boring! Form of...Uninteresting!!
They not only got to Virginia in record time...
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
08:15:00 PM
But Telemundo Twin #1 can speak English now. :D
Must have had one of those...
by VegasRon
Nov 26th, 2007
08:16:33 PM
...learn english in one week CDs.
ROSETTA STONE, BAYBEE!
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
08:19:26 PM
That's it, VR.
The Sylar - Telemundo Twins saga...
by ZoeFan
Nov 26th, 2007
08:21:43 PM
is just cringe worthy.
"Not again."
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
08:23:52 PM
LMAO.
*sigh*
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
08:29:17 PM
That was not from the dialogue tonight. :|
I have to admit
by pursued_by_bear
Nov 26th, 2007
08:29:40 PM
Peter is turning into a bit of a badass.
Meh. Meh. Meh.
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
08:31:30 PM
VegasRon on da money again. :)
I also have to admit
by pursued_by_bear
Nov 26th, 2007
08:32:46 PM
Sylar just nudged HRG for the vote of hardass. Not just evil...but a freaking great job in making the character 3 dimensional.
Very Cringe Worthy
by ZoeFan
Nov 26th, 2007
08:32:53 PM
The manipulations that go on during a soap opera are more believable than that of Sylar and The Telemundo Twins.
adam
by Naijas Finest
Nov 26th, 2007
08:35:46 PM
i don't even think blowing his head off would do the trick. he survived a major explosion, probably not the only time he's gone through such trauma. i bet as long as he has any DNA intact, he can regenerate, kinda like Deadpool.
HEY would you Tobolowsky
by Series7
Nov 26th, 2007
08:37:09 PM
Man no one told me how good of a bod Noah had. Also note to Heroes creator Kkkkkrrrrraanng kill off the Indian dude, or at least turn him into a more realistic version of an Indian like Apu. God that gay is gay.
...and
by pursued_by_bear
Nov 26th, 2007
08:37:45 PM
we now have a way to off Adam.
headless adam
by sitchin
Nov 26th, 2007
08:38:32 PM
I think if the head comes off, he dies. I guess we are to assume that the gunpowder explosion and feudal calijapan didn't take his head off, or left it dangling by just enough nerves or tissue for him to regenerate.
One down, one to go...
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
08:38:52 PM
Finally.
NICE
by Naijas Finest
Nov 26th, 2007
08:39:20 PM
Sylar's the fucking man. That guy was a piece of shit.
one twin down
by sitchin
Nov 26th, 2007
08:40:14 PM
One twin left to brainsuck the end of the world virus from
incredibly twisted!!!
by pursued_by_bear
Nov 26th, 2007
08:40:59 PM
love it!
LOL at Pennsy...
by mcordy
Nov 26th, 2007
08:41:07 PM
One down...one to go. Bring it on Sylar!!!!!!
give sylar some props...
by bigpth
Nov 26th, 2007
08:43:28 PM
He kills the brother THEN BANGS THE SISTER. Serious skillz...
Chicks would have
by Series7
Nov 26th, 2007
08:44:40 PM
dug this show if they sold it on Noah's hot bod rather then Heydar Pinonatiara's double chin, then maybe the ratings would be up. Notes from the Underbelly had more action on it tonight then the Non-Profit hour. Where's Beast?
cool...
by VegasRon
Nov 26th, 2007
08:44:49 PM
...I take it you guys are at the part where Alejandro buys it. Let's just hope she dies in the "finale" and this neutered Sylar stabbing and shooting people is pathetic. Kill him off too.

Xiphos- completely remodeled two and built 2 brand new ones. Additions to the Bellagio and Ceasar's Palace are almost done. As is Trump's first Vegas casino. Hooters now has a casino, sadly.

OK, Elle, now get rid of Flyboy, please...
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
08:44:52 PM
:)
Nice callback to the wind chimes...
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
08:45:26 PM
Good.
nikki gonna bite it...
by bigpth
Nov 26th, 2007
08:48:50 PM
saving that little goober...
Monica doing like Altair in Assassins' Creed
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
08:49:55 PM
with those moves.
Damn...and I thought we were lucky enough
by kronos6948
Nov 26th, 2007
08:51:15 PM
to have another insignificant character die. They should've just shot her.
Still meh.
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
08:53:12 PM
Even with Alejandro's capping.
VegasRon...
by ZoeFan
Nov 26th, 2007
08:53:28 PM
Trump's building in Vegas is all condos. No casino.
doh...could have done without the roid'ed up
by bigpth
Nov 26th, 2007
08:54:55 PM
WWE rejects...
Saving the best for last...
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
08:54:58 PM
C'mon, Kristen and Hayden, save this episode...
I'm about 10 minutes behind
by Series7
Nov 26th, 2007
08:56:56 PM
everyone else but that dude playing young Sulu looked nothing like him, totally took me out of the show. Thats right Baby Balboa keep being a pussy. Man Micha is the only other bad ass on the show next to Sylar, $10 says he is the one that kills him. Man now a little Sylar bod, back to back hot man bod tonight I bet the gaydar on this site is broke by now.
Catfight!
by kronos6948
Nov 26th, 2007
08:56:58 PM
Bowl of milk, table 2.
"Watch who you'r shoving, Pom-Pom."
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
08:57:15 PM
LMFAO.
Best part about the show SO far
by Series7
Nov 26th, 2007
08:58:48 PM
Seeing the COMING UP NEXT: TRAVELINGMAN and knowing that we won't have to have our eyes irritated with that much longer.
maybe Mohinder should have changed his
by bigpth
Nov 26th, 2007
08:58:49 PM
cell number...
Oh, shit...
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
08:59:08 PM
so hero
by sitchin
Nov 26th, 2007
09:00:17 PM
has to cut off adam's head
alright...that was worth the wait...
by bigpth
Nov 26th, 2007
09:00:30 PM
hiro, not hero
by sitchin
Nov 26th, 2007
09:00:48 PM
Sorry, the drugs are working as intended
2 heroes will fall...
by kronos6948
Nov 26th, 2007
09:01:53 PM
Man, I can't choose just 2! Mohinder, Parkman, Nikki, her kid, the other wonder twin...
Not good. Nowhere near the penultimate episode
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
09:02:32 PM
of last season. Ball dropped, save for the last 30 seconds.
if hiro dies I stop watching
by majortom25
Nov 26th, 2007
09:03:33 PM
If they kill off hiro i will stop watching this show.
Bell = Win
by lagomorph
Nov 26th, 2007
09:03:59 PM
She does all these little things right, look at how much fun she had with the cast on her arm in that short scene when she's trying to start the car. As much as I love Sylar, he's doofy grin is getting a little overbearing. I got goose bumps when Hiro charged Peter at the end. More empty promises?
Pennsy
by NudeandAroused
Nov 26th, 2007
09:04:18 PM
Is right. But this ep was better than most of the season.
SLUSHO
by brucecampbell
Nov 26th, 2007
09:04:51 PM
ELLE WAS DRINKING SLUSHO! CLOVERFIELD!!
Bwhahahahahahaha!!!!
by BillyPilgrim
Nov 26th, 2007
09:05:19 PM
Was that supposed to be a battle cry at the end?!
Xiphos
by NudeandAroused
Nov 26th, 2007
09:05:53 PM
No argument from me on that one! Claire's mom? Really?
Hiro vs. Peter
by zooch
Nov 26th, 2007
09:07:17 PM
who would win in a fight?
brucecampbell, at least Elle's stomach won't explode
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
09:07:59 PM
like that lady's in the makeshift military hospital, then.
OHHH MAN!!!
by Series7
Nov 26th, 2007
09:08:24 PM
WAY wrong best part about this show. Preview for American Gladiators fuck yea, and I thought Phenomenon changed the face of television. Also we get it, you want to make Parkour big, but you don't know how to make money off of it, its not like that whole Razor Scooter fade.
Removing Adam's head...
by Almega
Nov 26th, 2007
09:08:29 PM
...for there can be only one.
Hiro vs Peter, who would win
by sitchin
Nov 26th, 2007
09:09:21 PM
The fans
Heroes tunnel vision
by SWEEP
Nov 26th, 2007
09:10:30 PM
How come all the villians try and some see the big picture but all the heroes suffer from tunnel vision. Peter Petrelli "Why'd you shoot her in the head" Duh!!! "I'll get the car" (bitch) Claire ,"thanks for the ashes Do I look cute?" Mohinder "Primatech is doing good, The hell with my fathers teachings" Nikki " primatech doing good , the hell with what my husband said" Ando " You dont take me anywhere Hiro" Micah "Will you be my mommy real black woman?" Wonderless twins, Have you ever watched a series so long with a one-note act(I'm Spanish and they embarrasss me) Killem both for gods sakes.
He Watched A Roseeta Stone DVD
by phoenixmagi
Nov 26th, 2007
09:10:52 PM
on the rogues dvd player
There can be only one!
by br1947
Nov 26th, 2007
09:11:34 PM
He is immortal, born in the Highlands of Scotland 400 years ago. He is not alone. There are others like him, some good, some evil. For centuries he has battled the forces of darkness, with holy ground his only refuge. He cannot die, unless you take his head, and with it his power. In the end, there can be only one. He is Duncan MacLeod, the Highlander... ...or Kensei, just strike the Scotland part.
Well, that was unbelievably Meh
by chrth
Nov 26th, 2007
09:11:45 PM
Peter read her mind for a location, but didn't try to read both to see who was telling the truth?

And didn't Hiro appear behind Peter in the promo?

Last week was good, but two weeks ago (aka Four Months Ago) and tonight were just lame. I was enjoying the season much better before.

It stunk. And I'm a Heroes homer.
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
09:12:29 PM
"Watch the first 10 mins then take a 30 min nap."

More like 40...

uh oh it could be hiro
by majortom25
Nov 26th, 2007
09:13:09 PM
It could be hiro that dies. O Nanother site they mention that future hiro was supposed to make a return appearance. So maybe hiro dies and gets reserected some how?
SLUSHO + Pixie Stick
by ZoeFan
Nov 26th, 2007
09:13:31 PM
According to last weeks commentary, Kristen said she's actually drinking the SLUSHO with a Pixie Stick. Can you say sugar high? By the way, the stuff she did with the cast was GREAT. Not sure if that was the writing (with the allusion in the beginning and the stuff at the end) or her.
phoenixmagi FOR THE FRAKKIN' WIN!
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
09:13:33 PM
Isn't it obvious?
Pennsy
by D_T
Nov 26th, 2007
09:14:08 PM
Agreed. This feels like the penultimate EP for a mid-season break. I mean, I guess it's kind of semantics: Split 2nd season vs. ending 2nd, starting back on 3rd, but this feels rushed as season finale (and the Micah plot seems like it's just swinging in the breeze). It's like that story is still running on the mid-season schedule, but the other stuff got accelerated to be able to end "neatly". Next week does look good.

Holy Hell, Ricky Williams already busted up? However, with the weather factored in, this game *might* put one in the W column for the 'Phins.

Buy Pennsy...
by VegasRon
Nov 26th, 2007
09:18:59 PM
...you would have missed Alejandro being put out of our misery =D
It didn't even feel like that, D_T, + ZoeFan...
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
09:21:41 PM
This was like Lizards, another snoozefest episode. ZoeFan, I think it was her, mostly.
That was one of the only 4 highlights of tonight, VR.
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
09:23:37 PM
"Watch who you're shoving, Pom-Pom."

Sylar getting his groove on;

The last 30 seconds;

The preview for next week.

That was pretty much it.

grrr
by VegasRon
Nov 26th, 2007
09:23:39 PM
*but* Pennsy...
Head of the nail....
by VegasRon
Nov 26th, 2007
09:25:21 PM
...meet Pennsy's hammer. I couldn't agree more. This super early double secret feed I have access to didn't have previews for next week...what did I miss?
Reshoot?
by D_T
Nov 26th, 2007
09:28:09 PM
So was it just the next EP that was reshot? (er, for that matter was that even done?).

So was Hiro holding the sword to Peter's neck we saw in last week's preview actually for *next* week?

The GlobalTV (Canada) preview for the finale is up.
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
09:29:30 PM
http://tinyurl.com/3ckvhz
West and Elle are the only new characters I want to stay
by Drath
Nov 26th, 2007
09:29:42 PM
so of course they will be the ones who will die, and we'll be stuck with the Wonder Twins, put-you-to-sleep villains Bob and Adam, and Micah's boring mimic cousin well into season 3. Everyone hates West for stupid reasons. He's one of the better new characters this season, he's just been stuck in a slow moving story. Why couldn't he fly with Noah on top of him? Probably because he needs to be on top to fly? Probably because he was tired (he did just point out that he would lose his grip on Noah while they were flying)? Probably because he wasn't going to escape at that moment, and Noah new that but he wanted to make a point which was "I own your ass, punk." I don't think this show is perfect, but Herc I think you're at that point where you enjoy nitpick bitching about the show too much to stop.
VegasRon, the offing of Alejandro was #2 in my 4 hilites
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
09:30:13 PM
list. Just to clarify.
Sylar kills Maya after
by SWEEP
Nov 26th, 2007
09:30:50 PM
he slips her his Spock :)
My 2 to bid adieu - West and Bob...
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
09:32:02 PM
Both by Elle's hand, hopefully.
Zoefan re: Cast
by lagomorph
Nov 26th, 2007
09:33:00 PM
I think it was Bell. I've seen her do things in Veronica Mars that show she has a good understanding for how to work a prop. That sounds dirty.
And Elle still has the arm cast on her next week...
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
09:33:21 PM
Dammit.
God, that was awful
by BeatsMe
Nov 26th, 2007
09:33:22 PM
I don't think I can give any more chances to this show. Were they making this crap up on the fly?
I think this episode proved Bell's the MVP of the show...
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
09:36:11 PM
With due respect to Jack Coleman. He shined last week in Cautionary Tales, but Bell, week in and out has delivered the goods. She better not be one of those two or they'll lose me as a viewer.
When she's not in it, the show drags...
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
09:38:11 PM
And SWEEP, that was just *bad* re: Maya and Sylar. Hilariously bad.
MYLAR!
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
09:41:53 PM
Whee. :|
This talkback was more entertaining than tonight's episode.
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
09:42:39 PM
Word to you guys. Thanks.
Memo to the TV girl, WATCH SOME UMA THURMAN FLICKS
by Ashok0
Nov 26th, 2007
09:44:53 PM
Seriously, if I was Micah's TV osmosis cousin, I would have thrown "Kill Bill" on my iPod and busted into the black dude's house with a friggin' samurai sword strapped across my back. There weren't even 88 guys in that house.
Wonder if Primatech
by BillyPilgrim
Nov 26th, 2007
09:50:24 PM
left some porn on that player? Baldy wants her to have skills.
"So, how about that 'Dexter' talkback?"
by Ashok0
Nov 26th, 2007
09:51:33 PM
Hopefully
by Series7
Nov 26th, 2007
09:56:47 PM
American Gladiators takes over the two hour spot after the much better Chuck, OR Chuck becomes a two hour show.
Peter should just read Adam's mind
by Prior Walter
Nov 26th, 2007
09:57:58 PM
Or is that too easy?
Oh, and nice callback to the first season...
by Prior Walter
Nov 26th, 2007
09:59:27 PM
with Hiro, sword in hand, freezing time and confronting Peter. Only this time it didn't happen on a subway train.
THIS....IS....SUCKAGE!
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
10:00:45 PM
Couldn't resist, Xiphos re: my reaction to American Gladiators, whose contestants all will have been drug-tested thoroughly, no doubt about it.
Ashok0
by Series7
Nov 26th, 2007
10:04:02 PM
Totally true, to bad Comcast wants fucking $30 for me to get Showtime other wise I would watch the show. Fucking Comcast worst cable since Suddenlink, who knows what crap I'll have to deal with when I move again.
Sheperd Bauer gets my vote!!
by Triceratops on Fire
Nov 26th, 2007
10:06:33 PM
Powers of !Awesome! and BADASS. Activate!!!11!!!11!!one!!
Series7
by Ashok0
Nov 26th, 2007
10:08:50 PM
Who needs Showtime when you have the Internet? Or are you on 56k?
Midas touch as well...
by EPE
Nov 26th, 2007
10:10:17 PM
Shouldn't Peter have Bob's gold power?
Next week (possible spoilage from the promo)
by chrth
Nov 26th, 2007
10:15:05 PM
I'm guessing that HRG returning to his family is from the new ending; that originally HRG would be kept from them in the 3rd Story.

Peter better not use electricity power on Hiro, as it will freeze the instant it leaves his hand.

Brutal
by BigMick
Nov 26th, 2007
10:15:54 PM
Tonights episode was horrible, so much dumb shit happened. Oh no way Monica is like the character from the comic book, didn't see that coming. I do like how Micah just takes off running when he sees Monica getting kidnapped, yea he's be a great choice to put on the superhero team he wants to start up with his mom "Hey that person's in trouble, hold on I'm gonna go turn on a computer somewhere". As for Adam, the only way to kill him is to chop off his head? Liked it the first time when it was called Highlander. Next episode we'll find him and Peter running across a beach with Adam yelling "The Quickening!" The Sylar storyline was actually kinda cool, only because it looks like they're going to have that wrapped up soon. The Hiro story was alright, kind of mundane for where his story is continuing from, but at least we were able to establish Adam's motive for wanting to destroy the world. Claire's storyline was so ridiculous this episode, the acting seemed so forced and not very natural, Wes saying "it pains me to see you like this" was so lame and Claire listing off all the accidents she's survived only to tell us that her father dying hurts even more-very cliche. And what's the deal with the funeral? Why was she the only one scattering the ashes and the rest of the family had to stand really far away? Are they not entitled to say goodbye too? Elle was, I think, fantastic in this episode. I don't know why everyone talks so much trash about her not being able to act, sure when you've only seen her on Veronica Mars it's easy to say that, but her acting is much different in this show and she plays the character really well. I think it would be cool if they didn't make her good or bad, but rather made her a character that just walked the line between both, kinda like Catwoman, good at heart but just likes to do bad things. Well here's hoping that next week in the "finale" we get to see all our hated characters killed off and all our favourite character put into some cool and worthwhile storylines, kind of like what we do every week.
Next week
by SwiftCrusader
Nov 26th, 2007
10:19:49 PM
I apologize if I stole this idea from anyone else since I haven't read the whole talkback... Someone mentioned why Peter didn't read Adam's mind...since obviously he can. The only explanation is that Peter is trying to let the virus out in order that he could rescue Caitlin from the future. Here's to Peter Prettyboy Petrelli going evil!
a few random Season Two thoughts
by LoneGun
Nov 26th, 2007
10:25:25 PM
I kind of liked this season before Kring announced they were going to try to amp things up. While not nearly as engaging as Season One, I was getting a kick out of Peter's Bourne-style misadventures in Ireland. Tonight's episode definitely felt hurried and unfocused. I like Claire, but I find her romance with West simply nauseating and hope it will end soon. I keep expecting some surprise or revelation about West, but we've learned very little about him. Noah Bennet is my favorite character on this show, because he's a thinking man, usually one step ahead of everyone else. Nathan is pretty cool, too. Hope to see him play more of a role in the events to come.
A lot of U sound like morons
by filmstu2005
Nov 26th, 2007
10:28:08 PM
I wont name a few, but those that keep saying this show is fucking awful and stuff like, its getting annoying. I hated the show just as much as u did in the beginning of the season, and i hated Four Months Ago. But sheesh, u sound like total pricks that will never be satisfied. When u start saying stuff like, "I like West and the rest of the show sucks," Then clearly i understand we shouldnt take anything u say seriously. Notice how the number of people criticizing the show negatively have dropped. Even i stopped. The show isnt perfect, never was, but at least it seems to be back on track. I thought tonite's episode was pretty good and moved the story along well enough. SO GET OVER IT AND QUIT WHINING. I hate to be like the ones that say it all the damn time, but seriously, if u dont like it DONT WATCH IT! Go watch ur retarded Journeyman, the American Hiro Nakamura wannabe.
Big Mick, Bell was stellar, but even she couldn't save this one.
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
10:30:19 PM
Kinda like sending Jonathan Papelbon out there in relief when the other guys are up 10-2 on the Sawks ($1 to Tony Kornheiser, PTI)
JERICHO
by zom-bot.com
Nov 26th, 2007
10:31:05 PM
hey whatever happened with jericho- i thought it was coming back this fall, but nothing...what gives? now there's a show.
People that type out "u" instead of..
by VegasRon
Nov 26th, 2007
10:33:02 PM
..."you" automatically have their opinions invalidated.

Proof: "Go watch ur retarded Journeyman, the American Hiro Nakamura wannabe."

That statement is so full of stupid my head hurts.

hiro's dad 1977
by zom-bot.com
Nov 26th, 2007
10:37:46 PM
yeah man, that guy looked nothing like sulu- young or old- looked way too young for Kaito of 30 years ago- and acted like an asian guy playing an american accent playing a bad japanese stereotype sulu impersonation. i was waiting for an "Ah So"....plus, if i know my asians, he looked korean.
Ashok0
by Series7
Nov 26th, 2007
10:38:57 PM
Yeah I know I've been rocking the internet, but still I would like to watch me some HD showtime. Plus my computer ain't that amazing, so getting my TV of the internet takes some time, TV is instant satisfaction. If I could get TV shows that could translate well onto my Zune then I could just bring it with me.
VegasRon
by filmstu2005
Nov 26th, 2007
10:45:50 PM
U just validated my statement dumbass.
Bella Bell
by Roboteer
Nov 26th, 2007
10:47:02 PM
Fans of VERONICA MARS already knew .... Bell is lightning in a pintsize bottle and one badass star. Maybe she's found her niche role. Hopefully they know what they've got. Looks like the script is definitely setting her up to take out Daddy Dearest and maybe take over Primatech. Remember Elle is the anti-Claire. (If he has a midas touch, why does Needle Nose wear such cheap suits?)/// Next stop for Noah and family.... a small paper company branch in Scranton PA. WOW. What a crossover! ///Gun-toting Shohinder not quite as annoying, but the overacting Maya needs to be Sylared, and soon./// S-Can the PC 'we-are-the-world' ratings ploy, if you don't mind. The two characters (Mo and Maya) introduced for that purpose are by far the weakest. ///If the virus is unleashed, count on Hiro to go back and fix it, as long as he's not a vector himself. (that sounds like a plot hole waiting to happen). Maybe he 'jumps' just before it hits the ground. How convenient for a script writer is the Hiro 'undo' button? Maybe Ando and Hiro names should have been reversed.
VegasRon
by filmstu2005
Nov 26th, 2007
10:48:28 PM
Btw, you were already stupid. U dont need to read my statements to prove that. Seriously though, just get off it. The show is decent. Its not the best show on tv, but at least its back to the better parts of where it was last season, plotholes and all. lol.
This show treats viewers like idiots
by jocutus
Nov 26th, 2007
10:51:14 PM
Every time the switch to a different plot line they feel the need to have characters explain to each other what they are doing. "Here we are, to see this woman, and find the virus!" "Yes! Virus 138! The virus that will kill 90% of all people on earth!" "90 percent?!?" "Yes! In ONE YEAR'S TIME!" And when they switch to Mohinder in a car, someone writer thought: "Oh, viewers will forget that he has a cure for Nikki, so let's have him open the case and just stare at the syringe FOR NO DAMN REASON! Maybe then these idiots will get it!"
The only thing more Teh Suck than this episode
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2007
10:53:05 PM
Was Monday Night Football, where folks who watched it will probably file a class action lawsuit against the NFL and ESPN, demanding three hours of their lives back.
Re: Treating viewers like idiots
by SwiftCrusader
Nov 26th, 2007
11:04:25 PM
They also foreshadow way too much... Its like now remember...Peter can read minds...Caitlin got left behind in the past...he needs that line of the future in tact to rescure her...but we won't reveal until next week... I also dislike the total lack of action...this is the one time I will ever say this, but Michael Bay could actually help this show. Hiro runs like a girl with that sword when he should use the element of suprise in teleportation to Obi-wan-on-Maul Peter's head off, but that would never happen. Elle could easily have iced everyone with her electrical powers or at least stunned them. I also dislike how they have abandoned Sylar...remember he was trapped on Lost-Island and then he wound up in Mexico...who did that?
This show needs Michael C. Hall
by Ashok0
Nov 26th, 2007
11:10:09 PM
SO... how about...
argh.
by docimian
Nov 26th, 2007
11:11:00 PM
monica needs to sit and watch that whole ipod. even if it takes a week. and she also needs to learn to go out the way she came in and avoid the gangsta's. bah! and its like the 16th time that things would be solved if they talked to each other. but noooo. peter: adam saved my brother - you cant kill him!! hiro: i went back in time and saw adam try and kill everyone by stealing the virus in the 70s - thats why he was locked up. lets not fight. peter. sounds reasonable. that exchange would take 8 seconds. but noooo we get lame setup and lame pesudo fight. hiros pudgy reflexes vs lighting. booo
"there's no coming back from that"
by necgray
Nov 26th, 2007
11:19:01 PM
So wait. Peter can't take a shotgun blast to the head but a nuclear explosion of his ENTIRE body doesn't smash the ol cabesa? He gets a shotgun blast to the chest and flies backwards, landing in a heap, but again his ENTIRE body explodes and he just flies it off? Geez, the truck-sized plot holes continue...
This Show treats viewers like they're Idiots
by filmstu2005
Nov 26th, 2007
11:23:15 PM
Yeah, i totally have to agree. They think we're not capable of putting two and two together. We're just a bunch of brainless idiots that will digest whatever bullshit they put on our TV screens. Very disappointing. I still think that was the case in Season 1's finale How to stop an exploding Man. SOOOO Disappointing. Seriously, does Kring think viewers are THAT dumb?
this show treats objects like they're women, man
by JimCurry
Nov 26th, 2007
11:28:48 PM
actually don't even watch this nerdy show. just wanted to invade its stupid talkback. eat me.