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Bruce Wayne is John Connor!!!

WOOT by Monknee	Nov 21st, 2007 02:38:10 PM
Massive
Uhh..... by Mixiboi	Nov 21st, 2007 02:46:02 PM
McG cast someone good?..Well, yeah. He didn't do a bad job either with Charlie's Angels..
I'm impressed by Aloy	Nov 21st, 2007 02:47:01 PM
Should be deep and dark.
Lies ? by A G	Nov 21st, 2007 02:54:44 PM
Must be lies ?
This... by BikerScout	Nov 21st, 2007 02:55:48 PM
...is great news. Was pretty disappointed with T3. I wanted to love, but... well... I didn't.
Thanksgiving Fools! by futureman3000	Nov 21st, 2007 02:59:00 PM
Doesn't make any sense.
Sounds great. by blunderbu55	Nov 21st, 2007 02:59:38 PM
He must have liked what he read.
Yes. by Read and Shut Up	Nov 21st, 2007 03:00:33 PM
...perfect.
Hell Yeah! by sethsl	Nov 21st, 2007 03:01:15 PM
Buying my tix now...
Sounds shitty. by blunderbu55	Nov 21st, 2007 03:01:33 PM
nd your head--
McG + Bale = by JeroenK	Nov 21st, 2007 03:01:49 PM
The stranget actor/director combo since the diabolical Schumacher/Hopkins/Rock triangle of Bad Company. Who'll win out in this confrontation? I guess Bale is going to be lobbying to get McG replaced, thus saving the franchise and notching up another classic role. Yay!
NO! LET TERMINATOR DIE! by DOGSOUP	Nov 21st, 2007 03:03:16 PM
Doesn't Christian Bale have better franchises to reboot?
I thought... by SanityKaos	Nov 21st, 2007 03:03:58 PM
I thought he was gonna say that the guy from Terminator 3 was gonna play Batman in Justice League and What's with the word "reboot"? I thought it was gonna be a direct sequel to first 3
Now just get rid of McG and I am in! by tile_mcgillus	Nov 21st, 2007 03:05:52 PM
If this is true...yippee!
"Dammit, John! Stop murdering that hobo and fight The Machines!! by TallBoy66	Nov 21st, 2007 03:06:06 PM
"Wait, John, what are you doing with that chainsaw and bat cowl? John? JOOOHNNNNNNNNNN!!! ARRGGH!! WHAT ARE YOU CHAINSAWING INTO? IS IT MY TORSO?! IT IS!! MY PRECIOUS, PRECIOUS TORSO!!"
McG..ehhh.....but BALE? HELLZ YA!! by jojo-pimp	Nov 21st, 2007 03:07:52 PM
Not too impressed with McG after the second Charlie's Angels movie...loves the first one, and the series Fastlane. But Bale as an adult John Conner? talk about getting the biggest badass to portray the biggest badass!
That's fucking AWESOME! by ABking	Nov 21st, 2007 03:09:11 PM
I now have complete FAITH in McG! Everyone...including me who was bad mouthing you should now bow down to you G man because that is AWESOME casting. Please get ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER to commit! Hell, you got his PLANET HOLLYWOOD partner Demi Moore for CHARLIES ANGELS 2!
FUCK NO. by polyh3dron	Nov 21st, 2007 03:09:26 PM
Why in the fuck is Christian Bale working with this FUCKING HACK?? Isn't he making enough money from the Batman movies? Christian, this is FUCKING BENEATH YOU.
Bale must have been stoned... by Korrom	Nov 21st, 2007 03:09:41 PM
to sign on to a project that has every chance to suck unwiped ass. On the other hand, this might mean that there is a faint hope that the TERMINATOR BEGINS (again) will not end up to be the steaming pile of buffalo shit that McG almost guarantees for.
So Bale changes AICN's mind about a McG directed T4? by Riley Martin	Nov 21st, 2007 03:11:07 PM
Wow
Meh by Darth Busey	Nov 21st, 2007 03:11:22 PM
I decree that the ubiquitous Christian Bale is no longer the fanboy's favorite. We must find another.
It means... by JonQuixote	Nov 21st, 2007 03:12:44 PM
...it'll be harder to tell which character is the robot.
I don't think I'm the only one... by Acappellaman	Nov 21st, 2007 03:13:02 PM
Who thinks this is a load of crap. There's NO WAY Bale would agree to star in the THIRD sequel of a franchise. Batman Begins was a reboot, so I don't consider that a sequel to the 90's Batman movies. I call this guy's bluff. Bale is NOT going to be John Connor. Waaaay too good to be true.
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!!!!!!!!!!! !! by THE KNIGHT	Nov 21st, 2007 03:13:11 PM
get the fuck outta here!
Wow. by TattooedBillionaire	Nov 21st, 2007 03:13:49 PM
I wasn't expecting that. Why would he want to work with McG?
So what? by MaxCalifornia.	Nov 21st, 2007 03:15:02 PM
You could resurrect Laurence Olivier, Marlon Brando, and James Dean and stick them in 'T4' but its still a movie directed by McG, and its still a Terminator movie without Ahnuld. This seems like such an obvious fanboy baiting move, you can just picture a studio exec saying "Hey, let's cast Christian Bale, all the nerds like him, right? Then they'll all be behind this film!". And sadly, it seems to have worked. Maybe next they'll put Simon Pegg in it and it'll be the AICN movie of the year.
Christian Bale as Broody McDourface by brycebishop	Nov 21st, 2007 03:15:36 PM
Tell me that Christian Bale is in a romantic comedy where he actually smiles (without the character either faking it or being batshit insane) and THEN I'll be surprised.
I call bullshit on this. by Grando	Nov 21st, 2007 03:16:01 PM
Bale has more taste than to work on a Terminator sequel with McG.
The Knight said it best. by Gilkuliehe	Nov 21st, 2007 03:16:34 PM
"WHAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!!!" Get the fuck outta here, indeed.
man by zom-bot.com	Nov 21st, 2007 03:17:48 PM
very odd...for christian to jump on board a sinking franchise? but better than eddie furlong, who hasn't aged into an ass kicker....hasn't really aged at all.
Bale has a pretty good nose... by Bobo_Vision	Nov 21st, 2007 03:18:29 PM
...for sniffing out decent projects versus stinkers. Therefore, I call bullshit on this as well. Either that, or Bale has lost his sense of smell.
Exactly what they needed by Turd Furgeson	Nov 21st, 2007 03:19:05 PM
This means there is no way Arnold will be in the movie, no big stars as the Terminator, no big stars as supporting characters except for Claire Daines (maybe).. They need a big name for an Iconic character... The character of John Connor has been with us for 25 years now and I can't be more pleased to have it portrayed the way it deserves to be portrayed, by a strong MAN... Not whinny ass douche from T2, and not scrawny ass Nick Stahl (although I like his acting but not right for T3)! Bale can power through ANY bad director, he's that talented.. This is truly COOL news.
Holy shit! IF this is real news. I'M a HAPPY. by future help	Nov 21st, 2007 03:20:06 PM
just saw Bale in Rescue Dawn last night, great stuff. Saw him last week in 3:10 to Yuma and i LOVE American Pyscho!
Christian Bale? by zooch	Nov 21st, 2007 03:21:34 PM
Why would Bale sign on for this crap? Might be cool if they get Arnold, Michael Biehn, Linda Hamilton, and Robert Patrick all to come back.
BALE 4 SOLID SNAKE! by zom-bot.com	Nov 21st, 2007 03:22:41 PM
bale with a mullet would make a great solid snake. Which is ironic because Mike Biehn was the SNAKE character model for one of the old METAL GEAR cartridge/box designs...
That WILL be awesome, BUT... by fractureJonze	Nov 21st, 2007 03:23:38 PM
I wish they would have had Micheal Biehn playing John Connor, and Edward Furlong playing Kyle Reese. That would have been badass! Or not.
what does this mean for...? by Grendy	Nov 21st, 2007 03:24:37 PM
The Sarah Conner Chronicles? It's supposed to air with the woman who played Gorgo from 300 as Sarah Connor. On tv this spring or some crap. I like parts (especially the downer ending) of T3, but that too-long chase scene was just lame in that movie. Not gonna top the Semi coming over the overpass in T2. Not gonna do it.
But...but..but it's McG... by Ayii	Nov 21st, 2007 03:25:33 PM
Bale kicks ass, but McG? The two Charlie's Angels films were terrible. But maybe if the script is great he can deliver.
FUCK YESS!!! by beastie	Nov 21st, 2007 03:26:17 PM
'Nuff said.
Harry- Right Actor. Wrong Character. by Gil Brooks	Nov 21st, 2007 03:26:49 PM
JC isn't really seen in the new film. That's all I can say.
so at the end of T4 by zom-bot.com	Nov 21st, 2007 03:27:19 PM
is john connor going to send some Biehn look-alike back in time? who would that be? Biehn's too old and rough now to pull off his 80's self by a long shot. Also- how the hell does the terminator series fit in to the universe...the chronicles of mom and young john's hijinx with other terminators....yet in 3 there is no mention of any adventures or problems since T2.
Then this is the first time he's wrong by Thick McRunFast	Nov 21st, 2007 03:28:08 PM
I guarantee you that's wrong. Guarantee it.
Also by Gil Brooks	Nov 21st, 2007 03:31:30 PM
While they're talking to Bale about being the character that is not John Connor, they're just talking to him. Nothing is 100%
i bet they meant by zom-bot.com	Nov 21st, 2007 03:31:57 PM
the 'new' batman armie fucking hammer is john connor....who the hell names their kid after baking soda? Armie Hammer. good thing he's 'handsome' 'cause his name is a joke.
What's wrong with Edward Furlong? by rev_skarekroe	Nov 21st, 2007 03:32:22 PM
Oh, that's right. He grew up to be a loser.
No ARNOLD? Are you nuts! by ABking	Nov 21st, 2007 03:32:30 PM
Just because BALE is in doesn't mean Arnie is out..yet! Imagine Arnie as a soldier along with BALE in the future wars. Could be a great new trilogy. Also, I think T4, T5 and T6 should all have new filmmakers with each installment...like McG for T4, Verhoeven for T5 and McTiernan for T6.
you know what? by Datascream	Nov 21st, 2007 03:34:39 PM
I think I'm ready to pull for this movie. Maybe..JUST maybe, McG will surprise us. Maybe this will be the film where he actually TRIES to make a great film. This casting certainly is off to a great start. I'll be keeping my eyes on this for sure.
Now I'm confused by MattmanReturns	Nov 21st, 2007 03:36:02 PM
It's directed by McG... but stars Christian Bale? It's like my brain is being split in two...
What if in a fit of rage... by poeticwarriorII	Nov 21st, 2007 03:36:59 PM
Bale lisps on the terminator and short circuits the poor thing. Boy, that would make for a really short movie although quite funny!
the terminator bodies by zom-bot.com	Nov 21st, 2007 03:37:20 PM
...the flesh of the terminators have to be based off of (or hell- cloned) off of some model. it would be cool if ARNIE was a soldier of connor's, and is one of the few that are captured (alive or dead) intact enough for skynet to use as a template. Cloning would also explain how the arnie-terminators would look younger than ARNIE if he were to appear as a soldier in this film today. skynet has the technology to advance the growth of the host/flesh/clone to whatever they want. The whole original point of the fleshed robots was infiltration, after all.
Who cares. its still MCG and no arnold.... by coltrautman	Nov 21st, 2007 03:38:20 PM
jeez, are some people here soo easy to please?? its still MCG the guy who directed charlies angels and No Arnod schwarzenegger who IS the terminator. and nw they get christian bale that all the ids love oooh ahhh now we love it... this movie will be a disaster..
holy shit by zom-bot.com	Nov 21st, 2007 03:39:52 PM
that's a good idea i just had. they never really explained or went too deep into the flesh/over metal thing other than to say that the machines could not travel through time without being encased in flesh- a law which was pretty much busted when they sent back the liquid terminator and the terminatrix.
Zom-bot by Gil Brooks	Nov 21st, 2007 03:40:01 PM
According to the original T2 script, there are only 10 of each "look", hence the "Model 101", when Arnold describes himself. So, there are 10 of "Model 102" "103", etc., each with a different look, both male and female.
Highly Unlikely by thedarklinglord	Nov 21st, 2007 03:41:03 PM
I wouldn't let McG shoot me taking a dump, okay? And Christian Bale actually has something to lose by trusting that fuckwad with his career. I just can't see Bale jumping on board what's sure to be a colossal shitstorm of wasted time, money, and potential. Unless he's secretly a HUGE Terminator fan and just can't resist the chance to be in a movie - even one destined to suck massive amounts of ass - I can't honestly picture him saying, "Another movie in the dead horse franchise of Terminator? Directed by McG? Oh, fuck yeah! I'm in, baby!"
If this is true, by dr_buggerlugs	Nov 21st, 2007 03:41:06 PM
then either this script is damn good or McG can talk a good game. Bale seems a little too good for this project but in the absence of Arnie, the franchise needs a strong John Conner to hang on to and if it's true then I'm there.
Doubt it very much by VERY METAL	Nov 21st, 2007 03:43:46 PM
i seriously can't see bale going ANYWHERE near this film!
still by zom-bot.com	Nov 21st, 2007 03:44:06 PM
if they would bother to explain the why's and how's of fleshing a terminator, they may as well say that captured or killed people ( a certain few important or good physical specimens) were used to clone the flesh or provide the template for each of those models. I mean how does an evil machine just put meat on a fucking robot?
zom-bot.com by Turd Furgeson	Nov 21st, 2007 03:45:30 PM
yeah that would be great, if it we're still 1984.. Have you seen Arnold lately? He looks like the Terminators grandfather... Because of his heart, he can't work out anymore.... His body without a shirt on probably looks like deflated fat bastard from Austin Powers 3.. No Way Arnold is going to be in this.. We're not talking about Professor X and Magneto playing themselves 15 years ago, we're talking about a 50 something old guy needing to look like he did 25 years ago and shirtless.. Not going to happen.
They should have Micheal Biehn in it. by fractureJonze	Nov 21st, 2007 03:45:59 PM
As himself.
I SUPPORT THE EXTREMELY TRUST SOURCE ON THIS ONE by Pound Sand	Nov 21st, 2007 03:47:07 PM
Still, seems like McG (sigh) is aiming a little high.
Get ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER! by ABking	Nov 21st, 2007 03:47:25 PM
Why do some of you guys think Arnie is not involved? Until we read that Governor Schwarzenegger has turned down the film, then there is a chance McG and the producers are smart enough to hold on to the one person that fans would line up around the world to see return in his iconic role. Besides KING CONAN, Arnie can play the older BAD ASS soldier that his T-800 model is based on in the sequels. Arnie as a kick ass/ take no names bad ass is where the story should go. But I would still love to see Arnie play a evil killer robot in T4!
Seriously though... by fractureJonze	Nov 21st, 2007 03:47:29 PM
They could have Biehn playing Kyle Reese with that same de-ageing crap they pulled in X-Men 3.
I can't believe by Harold The Great	Nov 21st, 2007 03:47:30 PM
I'm the only one who doesn't hate Charlie's Angels. I'm a harsh critic, but for what they were, they were great. Granted, I was drunk with a bunch of friends when we rented the two movies, but it had hot girls, Tim Curry, Bill Murray, flying Demmi Moore (WTF?), Demmi Moore maiming Bruce Willis, good music and truly insane action sequences. The exact same tone and balls to the wall insanity that most people are missing from comic book movies. I think it depends on your expectations and state of mind when you watch it. (And I'm biased when it comes to McG for Supernatural. Best show nobody watches) Great casting, may not suck balls.
The math is all wrong... by 1FearlessJay	Nov 21st, 2007 03:48:38 PM
McG = meh Christian Bale = awesome McG + CB = DOES NOT COMPUTE!!!
why bother? by systemsbroom	Nov 21st, 2007 03:49:09 PM
the terminator series is grounded in a very 1980s conception of what a plausible future would be. Ask yourself: does it really make sense from our current perspective that an advanced, hostile networked AI would attack humanity by sending humanoid robots back in time? Instead of a bioengineered plague, a nanobot gray swarm, or really any sort of threat stemming from the technological trends at play now? Robots were cool in the 1980s; robot-monster threats are laughable now the same way that giant-atomic-insect threats have been laughable for decades. Leave the past behind.
i'm just sayin' by zom-bot.com	Nov 21st, 2007 03:51:12 PM
have modern arnold in it now, as a grizzled old soldier of connor's, like a no.2 man or something. they don't even have to build his character- just establish it early on. then it's more tragic when old arnie gets killed/taken and is used to create (the younger- because it's lab grown meat) arnie terminator(s). They wouldn't even have to show any in action, just at the end or near the end of the flick, show cyberdine pressing out the first arnie-terminator...which could easily be done with effects of any sort today....setting up terminator one without having old arnie even have much screen time.
Let this please be a fake story by IAmLegolas	Nov 21st, 2007 03:53:19 PM
I'm a huge fan of Christian Bale, long before BATMAN BEGINS, and I don't need to see his good name sullied by a fcking Terminator sequel to a sequel of a sequel... that's far removed from anybody that worked on it at the creative level since the beginning (i.e. James Cameron, Stan Winston, etc.). At this point Christian Bale doesn't GOTTA EAT, he's probably sitting pretty well financially. HE DOESN'T NEED TO WORK FOR FCKING McG, THAT A$$CLOWN!!!!
Meh, why cast a TERRIBLE BATMAN to play in a terrble movie by Proman1984	Nov 21st, 2007 03:54:05 PM
Bale as Batman = boring.
John Connor and T-800 Soldier ARNIE by ABking	Nov 21st, 2007 03:54:25 PM
The focus of this sequel should be BALE as Connor and Arnold's soldier character they based the TERMINATORS on. Thats a story the fans and Cameron would pay to see!
Bale is giving McG a chance, so why can't we? by JDanielP	Nov 21st, 2007 03:56:30 PM
I think "McG" has a talented eye for the camera. And like I've said, I'm willing to give him a chance (to prove he's ready for such material). Let's give these gifted people some breathing room... and then see what happens.
That's insane! by CherryValance	Nov 21st, 2007 03:56:36 PM
I can't believe it.
Christian Bale is getting paid by Heckles	Nov 21st, 2007 03:59:59 PM
Batman franchise, now Terminator? He needs a role in JJ's Trek and he'll be a fanboy wet dream forever.
I mean really, what's next? by IAmLegolas	Nov 21st, 2007 04:00:09 PM
Johnny Depp playing GAMBIT in Brett Ratner's X-MEN 4 ???
Brilliant! A gem of casting among weeks of insanity by Azazyel	Nov 21st, 2007 04:00:48 PM

how the hell--- by zom-bot.com	Nov 21st, 2007 04:00:52 PM
does anyone in the future with limited means,incapacitate and reprogram a terminator anyway? I mean, you pretty much have to DESTROY one to get it to keep from killing you....much less, have one so intact that you can send it back in time for T2 and haveit still look like arnie completely fleshed....does terminator flesh heal after a while? My only guess is John connor and crew have some electromagnetic pulse weapon that they must have only been able to use once in limited range...or else they'd have taken out skynet.
Who is this McG you speak of? by comedian_x	Nov 21st, 2007 04:02:50 PM
After Charlie Angels: Full Throttle he reinvented himself into Joseph McGinty Nichol, respected American director of such everyman fair as We Are Marshall. Now, he is Bret Ratner without the coke habit... or not as much coke.
i need to get paid by zom-bot.com	Nov 21st, 2007 04:02:57 PM
for writing in some plausibility into this hole-filled franchise. If any of you guys remember what i wrote here today when T4 comes out, and we see it on the screen, just remember that desperate screenwriters troll AICN for fanboys to provide ideas! :)
Desperate, aren't they? by JackPumpkinhead	Nov 21st, 2007 04:03:18 PM
I'm also expecting a rapper and Paris Hilton (or is she past news already?) cast, to attract even more teendiots to this arnordless corpse of a "franchise".
Who gets casted next? by ABking	Nov 21st, 2007 04:03:43 PM
Will be interesting who gets casted next. Guess no Claire Danes huh. Just Schwarzenegger and Bale should carry this film July 4th 2009 summer.
Well, Hugh Jackman, Patrick Stewart and Ian Mckellen are all goo by Canada's King	Nov 21st, 2007 04:04:08 PM
Yet they were still stuck in Brett Ratner's disastrous X3. BUT, those actors were under contract, so I suspect for Bale to jump on this project, something must've ticked him towards quality.
And I'm still hoping for Shia la Boof as the Terminator. by JackPumpkinhead	Nov 21st, 2007 04:04:20 PM
If not, Timothy Olyphant will do. Or maybe Woody Allen. He's even tougher than those two.
...good actors... by Canada's King	Nov 21st, 2007 04:04:28 PM

a paris hilton terminator by zom-bot.com	Nov 21st, 2007 04:04:35 PM
...would be scary as shit. she's got the cold acting thing down, and we all hate her, so why not?
IF that is true I am shocked and yes Harry it will by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz	Nov 21st, 2007 04:05:09 PM
But I still don't believe it yet. It's extremely shocking that Bale would work with him at this point considering Bale's current track record and taste of movies and directors.
Bale was the BOMB in Phantoms, yoe by Kentucky Colonel	Nov 21st, 2007 04:06:41 PM
Or am I stoned?
bull shit by Leafy McPlantsalot	Nov 21st, 2007 04:07:35 PM
there is no way this would be really cool.
OMMMMMFUCCCCCCK! BALE AS CONNOR!! by UMAGA	Nov 21st, 2007 04:08:58 PM
AHHHHHHHH! Did someone call Bale's Batman boring? WTF?
No way this is true. by KillDozer	Nov 21st, 2007 04:10:31 PM

John conner watched star trek... by BigTexas42	Nov 21st, 2007 04:13:07 PM
and remembered when they took out the borg by putting it on "sleep mode" (who knew the borg ran on windows 95?) I rekon they try a similar trick with the terminator robots. OH, btw, CB can pick a script, so unless any of you have actually seen and read the script, or even the fleshed out story line for that matter, I think I'll give Mr. Bale the benefit of the doubt. I may actually watch this now.
Zom-bot, they can reprogram them... by Gil Brooks	Nov 21st, 2007 04:13:36 PM
...because not all the Arnold models were activated. They talk about this in the original T2 script, as well. The resistance doods break into Skynet, just as the 1st T-800 is going back in time. The find the storage area, where there are 9 model 101s sitting there, unprogrammed, and they reprogram one, and send him back in time, right after Reese, only to a different time.
who builds the factories by zom-bot.com	Nov 21st, 2007 04:13:47 PM
...who builds the factories and the machines that build the terminators anyway? at the end of T3, the world just got nuked. i could guess you could say that the survivors were enslaved to build things for skynet like the jews and the egyptians, but enslaved by what? in T3 all skynet was was the internet and a few military prototype hover gun things. that's where the story falls apart. how are they going to patch that gaping hole?
WOW! I mean HOLY SHIT! by YackBacker	Nov 21st, 2007 04:14:00 PM
This guy is the cool. Hopefully McG will not fuck things up.
I remember when the boards here cried by slder78	Nov 21st, 2007 04:16:53 PM
like babies when Bale was announced as Bruce Wayne. "Overrated" "Protected by God i.e. Spielberg" "too young" were some of the terms used. Now he's considered the savior of a McG movie. The times they have a changed indeed.
Why bother aging Biehn at all? by HitchCock'n'Balz	Nov 21st, 2007 04:18:19 PM
Make him John Connor...that makes perfect sense that he grows up to look like his daddy...plus he is fuckin great..I always wanted Jonny Ringo to beat the shit out of that fancy pants Val Kilmer anyway....
I'm now officially conflicted by DexterMorgan	Nov 21st, 2007 04:18:42 PM
If McG wants a bit more respect, and his name on a Terminator film, then he should at least use his real fucking name.
Genius by montimer	Nov 21st, 2007 04:18:47 PM

FAIL. by BLEST	Nov 21st, 2007 04:20:38 PM

Oh and for HitchCock'n'ballz... by BLEST	Nov 21st, 2007 04:23:39 PM
You must be an educated man. Now I really hate ya. Doc Holiday was a boss in Tombstone. "I'm your huckleberry." Ringo was a coward, who only shot the un-armed priest.
Why do people with screen names come in and tell us by Kurzinski Valentine	Nov 21st, 2007 04:23:54 PM
They know inside secrets but won't say anything about them? What's the point? Why do this? Come on Gil, just spill it.
The factories are built by the humans. by Gil Brooks	Nov 21st, 2007 04:26:16 PM
Reese talks about this in T1. Rewatch the movies, brutha. Except T3. Just ignore that one...
McG will be lucky if he can get Edward Furlong... by idahomer	Nov 21st, 2007 04:27:39 PM
for the part. No way Bale involves himself in something like this.
Well by hum noises for the Beast	Nov 21st, 2007 04:28:15 PM
Everybody makes mistakes look at the england football team, T4 will sucks balls though
That's fuckin' ace by ODM	Nov 21st, 2007 04:30:23 PM
Now if only 'McG' would fuck off calling himself 'McG'
re: "Broody McDourface" by damagedinc	Nov 21st, 2007 04:30:31 PM
hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahah a!!!!
Well, this could be amazing. by SoWasRed2012	Nov 21st, 2007 04:30:36 PM
I've never seen Christian Bale in an out and out shit movie, so I suddenly see a flicker of hope in this - IF IT'S TRUE. I'm gonna need to see something official or I'm filing this under 'Doubtful, but would indeed be very nice if it turned out to be true'.
Yeah right by feckdrinkarse	Nov 21st, 2007 04:31:36 PM
I will suck a dick if this turns out to be true. You silly gooses.
it's a rare thing to trust a film based on its choice of actors. by damagedinc	Nov 21st, 2007 04:31:48 PM
but this is one of those times. i totally trust a Bale-driven Terminator movie unless it's setting out to be Newsies 2.
Bale does not exist in this dojo by Cobra--Kai	Nov 21st, 2007 04:33:27 PM
Has anyone seen Equilibrium (starring Bale)? I thought about renting it a heap of times but never did... Anyway - new TERMINATOR 'could be' an awesome reboot. It's certainly a franchise that needs a new direction.
100% BULLSHIT by robzass	Nov 21st, 2007 04:35:31 PM
There is no truth to this at all. This is the stupidest rumor that you guys have ever run. Check your sources, because Bale is almost Day Lewis picky when it comes to film roles. I smell bullshit.
TERMINATOR SALVATION better be Rated R!!! by ABking	Nov 21st, 2007 04:37:14 PM
THE TERMINATOR, TERMINATOR 2: JUDGMENT DAY and TERMINATOR 3: RISE OF THE MACHINES were all hard R. With Christian Bale as Connor and this being a WAR movie, here's hoping TERMINATOR SALVATION: THE FUTURE begins is rated hard R! Common McG, get Arnie as a older soldier bad ass!
ABKing by Gil Brooks	Nov 21st, 2007 04:38:32 PM
I've heard they're aiming for a- YUP, PG-13.
As a court reporter by YO MOM'S GOAT	Nov 21st, 2007 04:38:51 PM
I was going to go see this twice without Christian Bale. I just plain love me some Terminator and McG's OC had perhaps the best first season of any prime-time soap EVER. But WITH Batman I may see it three times.
Christian Bale... by Gozu	Nov 21st, 2007 04:39:55 PM
will be the best part of this otherwise mediocre film. Nothing else about this interests me at all.
BALE MEANS THIS FUCKER IS GOING TO BE A $150 MILLION SLUGGER by TheDohDoh	Nov 21st, 2007 04:40:04 PM
WOW. THAT IS FUCKING SURPRISING IS ALL HELL FOR CASTING NEWS. Anyone who saw Rescue Dawn, picture Rescue Dawn 3000 years in the future = this shit is going to be awesome. GREAT TO SEE THE TERMINATOR FRANCHISE BACK ON ITS FEET AFTER THE LOUSY #3.
strike the above comment... by damagedinc	Nov 21st, 2007 04:41:15 PM
...I'm totally okay with this being Terminator 4/Newsies 2. Or Terminator 4/Newsies 2/Empire of the Son:Jaime Strikes Back.
robzass by Multiplex	Nov 21st, 2007 04:42:19 PM
Right, because Equilibrium and Reign of Fire were so good. Bale's made some mistakes before -- and I'm hoping this isn't one of them. (And would you people shut up about T3? It wasn't great or anything, but it was FUN.)
Why the fuck would Bale sign on to this?! by judge dredds fresh undies	Nov 21st, 2007 04:42:36 PM
I LOVE Christian Bale, even his blockbuster roles are full of passion and I don't believe he ever does things just for the paycheck so I am incredibly shocked by this. Either he knows something we don't or he is getting ridiculous amount of money for this role. It's irritating as Bales involvement makes interested in the film again but I really do not want to watch a terminator film which doesn't involve Schwarzenegger.
Actually... by BLEST	Nov 21st, 2007 04:45:25 PM
Bale as the Terminator (if he's buffed out Begins style) would be okay. But still need to ditch the Mcghey.
Bale and Schwarzenegger were going to do REIGN OF FIRE by ABking	Nov 21st, 2007 04:45:48 PM
Interesting fact, Arnold and Bale were going to star in REIGN OF FIRE at one point! Arnold was up for Matthew's role.
And Multiplex... by BLEST	Nov 21st, 2007 04:47:15 PM
I don't know what neck of the woods you're from, but 'round these here parts Equilibrium is awesome cult flick that has plenty of fans. It was good, and Bale acted just fine in it.
Up is down, down is up, and hamburgers eat people by IndustryKiller!	Nov 21st, 2007 04:47:47 PM
My mind is seriously blown. And not necessarily in a good way. Christian Bale really wants to take on a Terminator film not done by James Cameron? Why? The best anyone will say about it is that it isn't as good as Terminator 1 and 2. I just cant understand why Bale would want to do this.
Actually Equilibrium and Reign of Fire are pretty good.. by judge dredds fresh undies	Nov 21st, 2007 04:48:45 PM
I am particularly fond of Reign of Fire. Yeah, not everyone likes those films but Bale was very good in them and I don't believe he did those films just for the money, they are distinctive.
Bale + Terminator 4 = $25 Million paycheck by Turd Furgeson	Nov 21st, 2007 04:49:36 PM
Brother's gotta buy a new crib in London......
If Bale needed money by Bob of the Shire	Nov 21st, 2007 04:51:29 PM
He wouldn't have declined the Justice League film. Him signing on for this can only mean that he knows something we don't and has faith in the project. McG is largely untested, this is the film that's going to define his career and I think he knows it.
Holy Shit by damned-dirty-ape	Nov 21st, 2007 04:51:52 PM
Is it just me or is Bale someone that you wouldn't think of as somone playing John Connor at all, but now that it's been suggested, makes perfect fucking sense. I'll take it with a pinch of salt until it is confirmed, but if true, this is one hell of a piece of casting. Stahl is a damn good actor, but he was never the leader of the resistance we all wanted
Bale should NEVER touch this crap by hegele	Nov 21st, 2007 04:52:07 PM
Christian wouldn't sign on another franchise, especially one at the helm of a such a mediocre director.
Or.. by BLEST	Nov 21st, 2007 04:54:12 PM
This is all BS. Harry's read a few talkbacks complaining about the lack of "scoops" and that AICN just reports crap trailers and posters that other sites already have up weeks earlier............ and he decided to make up this "trusted source" that's never been wrong before and throw out this BS story for some fun. I'm curious as to what exactly this "source" was correct about before. Any answers Mr. Knowles, hmm?
who else? by BigTexas42	Nov 21st, 2007 04:55:33 PM
These are actors who I will go see the movie just because they are in it: Christian Bale, Ed Norton, Jake Gyllenhall (spelled wrong, i know), Brad Pitt (what? he's good), Johnny Depp (didn't care much for the wonka thing), Anne Hathaway (just to look at her - acting is OK), Ewan Mc Greggor Meryl Streep Who else? (don't you dare say Tom Hanks, Tom Cruise, or Tommy Lee Jones or I'll throw ketchup packets at you!)
Equilibrium does not exist in this dojo by Cobra--Kai	Nov 21st, 2007 04:55:52 PM
Damn, now i'm conflicted. Some level-headed person please tell me - is EQUILIBRIUM crap, average or awesome?
Or... by Forsakyn	Nov 21st, 2007 04:58:17 PM
You can just wait until the casting is officially revealed and see if the scoop was right. But I know - it's more fun doing a "No way would Christian do this! He's not into money!" and then if he doesn't you can come back again and lambast Harry. And if Harry's source is right you can be silent because "Oh no, I can't say I was wrong."
Cobra Kai, Equilibrium is fucking amazing by IndustryKiller!	Nov 21st, 2007 04:59:34 PM
An will become something of a cult classic as the years go on.
Danny Devito... by andyny29	Nov 21st, 2007 05:00:10 PM
as the new terminator?:)
They could cast anybody as Connor by kwisatzhaderach	Nov 21st, 2007 05:03:42 PM
McG is directing, Cameron is not. End of story.
Robin Williams by damned-dirty-ape	Nov 21st, 2007 05:05:15 PM
I never understood why all the termnators had to be big, muscular bastards. If someone like Robin Williams was cast, Connor wouldn't see the bullet destined for his head coming as he'd be laughing his ass off at the rubber faced gods antics
SCHWARZENEGGER?!?! by Engelhast	Nov 21st, 2007 05:05:16 PM
Why they hell would anyone want to see that old douche back as the Terminator or any other movie for that matter. They guy is past his time as an action star and he was never within his time as an serious acting talent. It has ALWAYS been my opinion that the Terminator and most of his movies were good despite him not because of him. Bale in it or not I would not pay to see another movie with The Damn Governator staring in it.
Luke, Christian Bale will play John Connor.. by WickedMonster	Nov 21st, 2007 05:09:16 PM
Luke: ...Noooooooooooo....That's impossible....
Or... by BLEST	Nov 21st, 2007 05:09:29 PM
I won't have any problem saying that I'm wrong, but we won't have to cross that bridge. Forget the money, how as ACTOR, one whose worked with Chris Nolan on 3 of his last 5 films and co-starred with Steve Zahn, R.Crowe, M.Caine, M. Freeman, G. Oldman, and L. Neeson... could he even THINK of touching this limp-dick, Uwe Bowl-esque DTV piece of crap. It's Mc freakin G. Not gonna happen.
McTERMINATOR by MaxTheSilent	Nov 21st, 2007 05:09:38 PM
That's what I'm calling it from now on.
Cast me!!!! by damned-dirty-ape	Nov 21st, 2007 05:10:34 PM
I should be the new Terminator model. The T240 lbs. I may be fat, balding and ugly but i can do the robot dance like you've never seen.
continued by damned-dirty-ape	Nov 21st, 2007 05:12:07 PM
and i can act, which is more than schwarzennegger could ever do
I don't hate McG (agreeing that the goofy look and by CreasyBear	Nov 21st, 2007 05:19:48 PM
musical choices in Charlie's Angels fit the job perfectly), and I like Bale as John, but I'm concerned about the villain for T-4. I know Aliens (speaking circumspectly of James Cameron)took the lone Alien idea and changed it successfully into a whole mess of Aliens, but another post-apocalyptic wasteland setting seems 80's sci-fi lame, and an army of metal-skeleton robots doesn't seem that cool to me. Losing the modern-day setting will be bad.
This bodes well for the script, but still...McG...?? by performingmonkey	Nov 21st, 2007 05:23:02 PM
Christian Bale is fantastic, and it's very easy to picture him as John Connor (though they'll have to shoot a flashback showing how he got the lisp...) but McG is still in the chair so there are NO guarantees. It's all up in the air.
It's Connor, by Jaws Wayne	Nov 21st, 2007 05:29:50 PM
not Conner Harry. It sounds really good if Bale is gonna be Connor, who would have thought ?
Going to kick ass? With MCG you stupid fatso? by Frye777	Nov 21st, 2007 05:30:03 PM
Plus the character's name is JOHN CONNOR +
Yeah, this is BS by jimmy_009	Nov 21st, 2007 05:32:07 PM
Why would Christian Bale associtate himself with this project, and this director?
Digitize Arnie- Beowulf style by geodesigns	Nov 21st, 2007 05:36:04 PM
The time is right and the technology is right to use motion capture and sophisticated, realistic-looking CG Arnold Terminator character. While in office, the Governator can participate in his free time: 1)Face computer scan- full range of facial reference. 2)Motion capture to digitize the performance 3)Audio recording session, Too Ket Da Raight Ah-nold Ak-sent. If they will do a next Terminator movie, it’s got to have Arnold. Arnie, if you’re reading AICN- YOU MUST DO T4!!!!! Do it now!!! Get to da Choppah- do it now!!!
Too Ket Da Raight Ah-nold Ak-sent by Jaws Wayne	Nov 21st, 2007 05:39:57 PM
That was funny, still laughing her.
This shit will still suck cock by Pipple	Nov 21st, 2007 05:40:01 PM
no arnold, and mcdonalds is directing.
CHUD says Bale is playing the Terminator. by Gil Brooks	Nov 21st, 2007 05:40:54 PM
They're HALF right. Use your imagination.
Will Bale be as BLAND as he was in Batman Begins? by KAWS	Nov 21st, 2007 05:45:38 PM
There were times when I thought the man fell asleep in the damn ugly Bat suit. He was good in his latest war film Rescue Dawn, but in Batman, he was dead on film. You know this to be true.
Wow by QuinnTheEskimo	Nov 21st, 2007 05:47:37 PM
Didn't care about this movie before, but now I'm fucking interested.
i admit i need to rewatch them. i don't own them by zom-bot.com	Nov 21st, 2007 05:48:57 PM
...but to most of america, terminator law and canon will come from the movies, not things that were detailed in the script but left out of the actual films. Biehn probably did mention the humans building the factories i guess...it's gonna be hard for people to wipe the glaring obstacle set up by 3 though. I'm up for anything, i suppose. Just entertain me.
Bale as The Terminator ? by Jaws Wayne	Nov 21st, 2007 05:49:12 PM
Huh ? So what is it Harold ? Gotta say I also really like the idea of Bale as Terminator.
Flawless casting decision either way by hamo455	Nov 21st, 2007 05:50:16 PM
But can it save the film? I say... probably. Gotta love CB.
If Any of You Believe This You Are RETARDED by robzass	Nov 21st, 2007 05:53:15 PM
Seriously, this is so below Bale. I lose so much respect for the man if there is any truth to this.
This script better rule all kinds of ass by quadrupletree	Nov 21st, 2007 05:55:33 PM
Or else I don't care who you cast. I find it hard to believe that Bale would sign on to this at this stage.
bale not john connor- not terminator by zom-bot.com	Nov 21st, 2007 06:02:28 PM
-but 'being' the terminator is 'half right'. well, i imagine someone first designed the terminator. why design it skeletal and humanoid if every single one wasn't destined to be fleshed out for time travel or stealth work? you can't tell me bipedal gun holding units was the best thing skynet could come up with. Maybe Bale is the evil prick responsible for the whole thing. Creator of skynet or at least designer of something. Assumedly, the whole thing couldn't just come to consciousness on it's own, it had to be programmed to awaken like a virus. That would be a really crummy plot device though, and waste of Bale.
by smutpeddlar	Nov 21st, 2007 06:04:43 PM
great news
Zom-Com by Gil Brooks	Nov 21st, 2007 06:04:59 PM
Nope. Think more literally.
Is this the slippy slope for Bale? by FILMFUNK	Nov 21st, 2007 06:05:40 PM
Or the Rise of McG!? Let's hope it's the latter although I'd be really 'cited bout this if it were just about any other director out there. Mc G Whiz this sound rather far fetched though!
i know, i know by zom-bot.com	Nov 21st, 2007 06:06:03 PM
that the guy supposedly responsible for much of skynet and the terminators was killed in T2, but i can't think what else 'half right' means in regards to bale being the terminator.....
ah- bale is the first cybernetic human? by zom-bot.com	Nov 21st, 2007 06:08:15 PM
some mix of man and machine? a guy with chips for brains, or an injured and rebuilt guy? hmmmmmmm...and all this so close to working with 'two face'....that's risky pidgeonholing area.
gil brooks by zom-bot.com	Nov 21st, 2007 06:09:49 PM
is christian bale! bored and typing on his laptop in a pub somewhere...ha ha
Gil Brooks by Unlabled	Nov 21st, 2007 06:10:13 PM
Stop hinting man give us something we can chew on!
locked away in some other bunker... by zom-bot.com	Nov 21st, 2007 06:12:48 PM
...a top secret 'million dollar man' style project (aka Bale) is kept safe from the events of 3 but awakens to be the literal 'borg-queen' of skynet. ...omg i hope not.
i can respect Bale by zom-bot.com	Nov 21st, 2007 06:17:18 PM
for not wanting to be typecast as batman from this point on, and maybe doing so by jumping into another major action franchise....but to do so in a shaky or derailed 4th installment.....it's so crazy. So crazy it might work for him. Just hope he isn't a 'bionic man'. It was hinted he wouldn't have much screen time, right? i'm totally confused by this point. I think i'm going to go see the MIST now.
Ticket Sold by The Ender Smites Foes	Nov 21st, 2007 06:20:07 PM
I'm so fucking easy sometimes..
You guys got me. by Gil Brooks	Nov 21st, 2007 06:23:58 PM
I was bored here on the set of Reign of Fire 2: We Fight More Than Two Dragons This Time.
yeah right! by optimus plump	Nov 21st, 2007 06:30:45 PM
theres more chance of me going back in time, assinating my own mother and hence stopping me from ever reading this complete bullshit than there is of Bail actually going through with this...stick with the dark night mate!
time travel...sorry ME again. by zom-bot.com	Nov 21st, 2007 06:30:58 PM
what were the time travel rules set up in the series? They could only go as far back as cyberdine existed? or the machine was made..or what? Time travel would be a more powerful weapon than just sending back an assassin could accomplish. but you can't go back to just destroy mankind- because then there's no machines or cyberdine. And if you can't find your enemy (JC), you go back to when they were weak and in the open (T2), or before they were born(1)...when you think about it, skynet trying to kill john connor throughout his life is what makes him strong enough to fight the resistance in the first place. So skynet's priority should have been to never go back in time and fuck with the connor family. Man, you could argue time travel for years :)
BUT- If they never sent a Terminator back in time... by Gil Brooks	Nov 21st, 2007 06:33:26 PM
...they Skynet would have never been made. It's a classic paradox.
TARGET AQUIRED: NEW PRIORITY by zom-bot.com	Nov 21st, 2007 06:37:04 PM
(message to T1 arnie from skynet)...do NOT attempt to terminate Sarah Connor. Since we are in the future, we know it does not work. Let the soldier that escaped our time and impregnate her rant about skynet- no one will believe him. Allow Sarah Connor to give birth to John Connor. your new mission is to befriend him and insure he has a fat, comfortable, safe and normal life. therefore he will not lead the human rebellion.............pfft!
it does hurt the brain by zom-bot.com	Nov 21st, 2007 06:38:52 PM
no matter which way you look at it. and i hope any future installments really play with some of that time travel mindfuck that T2 encapsulated so nicely.
When he hacks an ATM... by gotilk	Nov 21st, 2007 06:39:25 PM
.. now we have to worry if he's going to stuff a live kitten in it when he's done.
This stinks of falsehood in bullshit form by Stuntcock Mike	Nov 21st, 2007 06:41:51 PM
Great idea but I'll believe it when I see it.
This needs trade confirmation by SoylentMean	Nov 21st, 2007 06:43:12 PM
If it's true this is one cool rumor. Imagine the intensity the Bale brought to the screen in films like American Psycho or The Machinist being applied to a military leader character so bad ass that his enemies have sent assassins into the past to preemptively kill him not once, not twice, but three fuckin' times. If Bale is indeed signed on then everybody involved is taking this film very, very seriously. A very good pick and it's not Eddie Furlong.
T1 and T2 did form a nice paradox loop by zom-bot.com	Nov 21st, 2007 06:44:02 PM
i've heard and participated in the discussions before...which is why T3 was so unecessary, or in the wrong direction. it was like a tangent or alternate universe. so Gil, we just need some sort of evidence that 4 gets it back on track! dish out the morsels!
I kinda hope this isn't true. by The Chosen	Nov 21st, 2007 06:49:20 PM
I just can't shake off the feeling that this film is going to be horrible.
Didnt expect to read that... by Jack Colby	Nov 21st, 2007 06:50:59 PM
If it's tru, that is pretty good casting, I'll admit. I still think there's no story worth telling, sine we already know what happened in the future, but I suppose its possible some fairly interesting narrative could be found and made into a movie covering this time span. I suspect it will just be and excuse to show robots and laser blasts, however.
hopefully there'll be a music video at the end by occula	Nov 21st, 2007 06:53:20 PM
where bale, wearing a speedo, washes a car and smears his man-boobies all over it. YESSS!
i, too, kinda believe it's bullshit by occula	Nov 21st, 2007 06:54:17 PM
BUT i also don't believe bale is above taking on the occasional dogshit project to put dollars in the trust fund for his kid. OK, dogshit is a strong word - how about the current fave, 'meh'.
Zom-Bot by Gil Brooks	Nov 21st, 2007 06:55:49 PM
You're gonna have to wait a bit more. ;)
Oh hey guys, I know what the Cloverfield monster is by Kurzinski Valentine	Nov 21st, 2007 06:57:39 PM
But I don't want to tell you. ;)
I bet that... by krodnoc	Nov 21st, 2007 07:00:56 PM
... Nick Stahl is well pissed. But Bale's involvement makes me think that there could be something to this movie. I'm willing to give McG a shot.
OMG YES!!!!! CHRISTIAN BALE is the fucking man! by EvilDoeR	Nov 21st, 2007 07:07:39 PM
YES! YES! This is the best fucking news I've ever heard about when it comes to the Terminator series! Only one man can really bring the Terminator series back to life, and CHRISTIAN BALE is that man! He has done it for the BATMAN series, and will now do it for the Terminator series! He simply is JOHN CONNER!
Ha! Thought Ed Furlong was in JLA for a sec! by Zeke2517	Nov 21st, 2007 07:07:50 PM
Read that "Bruce Wayne is John Connor" headline and thought that Edward Furlong was cast as Batman in that Justice League movie. Damn, my movie brain needs tuning...
Oh yea I forgot... by EvilDoeR	Nov 21st, 2007 07:16:01 PM
John conner err Connor or how ever it's spelled...
I just got off the phone with ChickenGeorgeVII by Sir Loin	Nov 21st, 2007 07:42:30 PM
...and he's still chanting things like, "McG!!! THERE IS NO OTHER BUT McG!!! ALL HAIL THE SAVIOR OF ACTION FILMS, McG!!! THERE WILL BE NO OTHER ACTION FILMS AFTER THIS BECAUSE THE BAR WILL HAVE BEEN RAISED TO IMPOSSIBLE HEIGHTS BY McG!!! McG!!!" Where is that guy, I miss him :(
hope ain't got nothing to do with it. by HEADGEEK	Nov 21st, 2007 07:43:54 PM
You can take this story to the bank.
T3 should have ended with John sending Reese back to 1984 by Sir Loin	Nov 21st, 2007 07:46:01 PM
...thus completing the circle of time and a fitting end to the franchise. But no. Man I hate you beancounters out there. Can't leave well enough alone, can ya, you greedy fruitcakes?
Oh great by Zorak5	Nov 21st, 2007 07:49:27 PM
If Bale is in it, that means now I HAVE to see it. Was totally planning on skipping this, but now I've gotta see it. Guess Bale is the go-to guy if you want to restart a successful franchise.
he'll do this but not JLA? by messi	Nov 21st, 2007 08:09:00 PM
not even if JLA was made after the Bat trilogy. That's weird. maybe he just loves terminator.
"BALE IS SO PICKY HE WON'T DO THIS" = WTF by TheDohDoh	Nov 21st, 2007 08:10:06 PM
WOW ARE YOU GUYS HIS AGENT? BALE'S TOO GOOD FOR TERMINATOR? IS HE TOO GOOD FOR A NEW ALIENS? If Ed Norton can star in a new Hulk reboot, Bale can be Connor or the new evil robot in this. What a bunch of snobs. This could be cool as hell.
McG is a hack. You can't defend him. by MMacKK	Nov 21st, 2007 08:11:13 PM
There have been good performances in shit films before, and maybe this is what this will be. I hope McGinty really turns around on this one, and actually proves himself.
Terminator: 4 Rise of the Catwoman by sleeptones	Nov 21st, 2007 08:21:23 PM
owned
ERROR-ERROR-!!!!!!! by dr.bulber	Nov 21st, 2007 08:21:42 PM
CANNOT-- EMBRACE--McG!!!-- CANNOT -- EMB--NVKSWIS -- SOPEF--
If Bale were willing to do hack films, he'd be in JLA by Live.	Nov 21st, 2007 08:25:37 PM
This rumor makes no sense. It does not compute.
"THIS IS GOING TO KICK ASS!!!" ???? by awesomebri	Nov 21st, 2007 08:27:36 PM
no... McG? has Bale read the script? is there a script? sounds like bullshit or a paycheck. ..and Bale is wrong for this role, i love him but he cant play everyone.
I'd like to Thank McG for doing by veritasses	Nov 21st, 2007 08:40:52 PM
his part in bringing us Chuck. It's not nearly in the same league in technical excellence as say, 'Mad Men' but I really enjoy and look forward to watching Chuck every week. And I'm not sure how it all came about but casting Bale is a positive sign. Now, if he manages to prevent turning T4 into a kinetic, high on flash, low on substance music video-ish feature he just might earn some respect around here.
So who will Bale Be, Connor or the Terminator? by Rindain	Nov 21st, 2007 08:45:57 PM
Or both a human and a Terminator?
aint buying it by palewook	Nov 21st, 2007 08:49:37 PM

Digitize Arnie! by Johnno	Nov 21st, 2007 08:50:35 PM
The tech to render him is there! You don't even have to worry about animating this one good! He's an emotion-less killer robot! If he's too busy just pay to use his face and image and scan and remodel that shit!
imagine Bale as the bad terminator by johnnyg korrupt	Nov 21st, 2007 08:52:34 PM
He woulda been excellent as a bad T1000esque terminator. He kinda has the same body as Robert Patrick
Bale is John Conner by HEADGEEK	Nov 21st, 2007 08:57:17 PM
END OF STORY
Great news, I'm one of the few around here by SpencerTrilby	Nov 21st, 2007 09:02:21 PM
naive, stupid or just open-minded enough to expect some good things from this film. Charlie's Angels movies were mindless fun with boobs - a concept that some of you snobs accept when it's a Troma movie but reject when it's big budget... Sheeeesh... I respect those who don't enjoy the movie for what it is (mindless fun, remember?) but calling him a hack... First, he's not Brett Ratner (Red Dragon, X-men 3, Rush Hour: a guy who indiscriminately fucks up projects whether the source material is shit or gold) and second it's not as if it raped anyone's childhood, because the original show was shit anyway. One of the few adaptations that IMPROVED upon the source material. Besides, We are marshals sounds, from what I gathered, like a solid little film, and McG (which is a stupid name, I give you that ) said while promoting it that he wanted more serious material from now on. And don't forget that the shitty humor in T3 was an attempt from John Mostow to get in touch with the doubters with some kind of laid-back atmosphere, before unleashing hell in the third act and taking both doubters and fans by surprise. I cringed at the gay glasses or talk to the hand line like many of you, but you gotta admit that it was a sly move from Mostow, as he knew that the expectations were low because of Arnie's lame track record for the past 10 years or so. Mostow's angle was tricky but he pulled it off. And T2 had also shitty humor anyway.
So if McG wants it serious, with Serious-Bale onboard by SpencerTrilby	Nov 21st, 2007 09:05:46 PM
no Arnie (which is - let's be honest - for the better as his image jammed seriously with the tone of the films) and hopefully a good, apocalyptic no-nonsense script... It could deliver. Fingers crossed.
News is ACTUALLY Nick Stahl is cast in JLA. by Lutz	Nov 21st, 2007 09:11:13 PM
They should cast Nicole Kidman in this as Kate Brewster and kill several careers.
Harry by IAmMrMonkey!	Nov 21st, 2007 09:17:32 PM
I truly can't put my faith in this movie with MCG as the director. I'd love to hear The Bale explain, in his own words, why exactly he chose to do this. Harry could you interview him for us and find out?
Whatever... by BLEST	Nov 21st, 2007 09:22:38 PM
Harry's on a sugar high. Put down the snickers ice cream bud.
Unless they've done a re-write in the past few weeks by Gil Brooks	Nov 21st, 2007 09:25:08 PM
Connor is not really in the film. BAM!
yeah but it's still McFrigginG!! by Maniaq	Nov 21st, 2007 09:41:40 PM
makin a friggin McTerminator with a McfrigginBatman!! Just remember how many of us knew this was gonna suck before a single frame was shot!! TRANSFORMERS anyone?? It would be nice if once in a while these formulas for disaster actually transcended expectations - BUT THAT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN
bale should be solid snake instead by noiretblanc	Nov 21st, 2007 09:42:21 PM
but, perhaps this could be a precursor to him playing snake in the mgs movie. bale and nolan making mgs would be insanely awesome.
Sounds good to me by slone13	Nov 21st, 2007 09:45:41 PM
I thought about bitching and moaning like a lot of you chumps, but then I realized I'm totally fine with this whole scenario. Sucks for you guys though, I guess.
Next they'll add Bruce Campbell by messi	Nov 21st, 2007 09:50:50 PM
and people will be sucking McG's dick.
I want a precocious terminator kid... by solarangel	Nov 21st, 2007 09:53:49 PM
...who was found by the resistance as a baby and was raised by them, and now wants to help fight the machines. His fondest desire is to become a real little boy. He's left alone in the base as a couple of bumbling terminators try to break in, and it's up to him to foil their plans. Hilarity ensues, and he's given a hero's welcome when the team comes back, whereupon he's proclaimed to be "as real as any little boy here." Big hugs all around. badgrrls.com
Adam Sandler as John Connor by solarangel	Nov 21st, 2007 09:59:58 PM
This franchise needs a light comedy reboot, and Sandler's just the right guy for the job. Rob Schneider can be his trusty sidekick. "You can do it, Johnny!" he yells as Connor streetfights a bully terminator. Resistance babe Jessica Alba looks on in concern and expresses alarm at key points in the battle.
A Very Terminator Christmas by solarangel	Nov 21st, 2007 10:10:13 PM
A terminator is sent back in time to kill Santa Claus, but his circuits are scrambled during the trip and he suffers amnesia. He's found by the elves and nursed back to health, whereupon he learns to help them build toys while singing and dancing on the assembly line. His terminator memory comes back due to a conk on the head, and after an internal struggle he overrides his original programming just in time to help a sickness-stricken Santa deliver toys to the world's children. "Santa Terminator! You forgot my dolly and Billy's fire truck!" (Grimaces) "I'll be back."
Pleased and excited by Silverglade	Nov 21st, 2007 10:12:43 PM
I am not familiar with "McG" so I can't really comment in that regard, but I do know Christian Bale is awesome in every role he takes, from Prestige magician to Batman, to POW. If he was interested enough in this John Connor part, I know he is going to bring some power to the role. Imagine Bale in the future commanding an army of resistance fighters and tearing shit up. Looks like I am interested in Terminator again. Now to watch how the rest of the cast falls into place..
Could the title be any shittier tho? by Pipple	Nov 21st, 2007 10:13:55 PM
>:D TERMINATOR: *(sparkles, and rainbows spring out of sunshine!) Salvation!!!* :) tee hee...
Has She-ra LeBarf been cast yet? by solarangel	Nov 21st, 2007 10:14:16 PM
Isn't he good for key moviegoing demos? Or at least contractually obligated to appear in every third film of any sort announced?
Analyze This 3: Terminate That by IAmMrMonkey!	Nov 21st, 2007 10:18:24 PM
Billy Crystal is The Terminator who is sent back in time to stop New York gangster Paul Vitti (Robert De Niro) from helping his old pal John Connor defeat the machines. Hilarity ensues when, posing as Vitti's psychiatrist, The Terminator comes to understand exactly how messed up the human race actually is and decides to go to University to take a psychology degree in order to understand more. Once there he meets Van Wilder and even more hilarity ensues involving breasts and hands turning into knives. Rated R.
Bale as human-robot prototype tormented with conflicting emotion by ruven76	Nov 21st, 2007 10:22:39 PM
John Connor is in his 40's and has been leading the resistance for a couple decades. We see lots of Centurions, T-1's through T-70's. Robots that look like giant spider type robots, biped platforms, and then finally the first of the T series of humanoid (but without skins) types of Terminators... the T-1 etc... Thats who the resistance has to deal with for most of the film. Bale is a bad guy, the new big bad. Except he is first a good guy. He is the reverse of the first movies Terminator who started out as a bad guy and became a hero. This guy starts out as a valuable member of the resistance, a guy who idolizes John Connor and is pegged as his possible succcessor. His right hand man... possibly this timelines version of Kyle Reese or a new character in a similar vein. Made in order to infiltrate the resistance and bring it to its knees from within. He is a cyborg. A baby fused with a CPU in utero. Eventually his programming starts coming in, slowly but surely he does things he wouldnt normally do. We start seeing his "turn to the dark side"... except the dark side is his true side. This is a good part for Bale as the character initially struggles mightly with the his sense of loyalty and "love" for Connor and with the inevitable turn that his programming demands. Watching Bale as his character becomes self aware that he is not any mere human but some sort of new human/robot hybrid that has been sent back in time in order to be the ultimate sleeper agent. Eventually being responsible for the death of John Connor. As far as Arnold... you could go two ways, both hinted at in previous Terminator mythology. He can simply be some old Skynet scientist who uses his DNA/likeness and voice as the basis for the new line of human like T-800's. Or..... Arnold plays Dieter Von Rossbach.... Connors mentor in terms of military strategy and a father figure. An old Austrian soldier in his 60's who has been instrumental in helping Connor along the way. He gets nearly killed and captured by the enemy early on in the movie. Dieter is tortured and Arnold gets to throw some nice one liners to the machines as he resists the torture. Since he wont break they instead begin submitting him to an experimental yet to be tested new process. In a scene reminicent of Total Recall... strapped to a chair in excruciating pain. The old man's brain being removed while his spinal fluid, blood, marrow, etc... is drained.... while being kept alive and awake unnatural means. Arnold then gets turned into a small army of 10 T-600's, rubber skinned Dieter looking Terminators. They can either use that ugly de-aging technique from X3 (hope not), use MoCap, CGI it, or a combination of digital and practical effects like with Hellboy. My choice would be to make these robots not look like perfect replicas of Arnold. They are made of rubber afterall.... should not be difficult to make it work imo. These T-600s ravage through the resistance, but are ultimate destroyed by ??? (possibly the Bale character glitches and goes back to lead the resistance in Connors absence?) And for one last way to keep things fun... At the end of the SECOND movie, after the climax and apparent victory for the resistance... we see a glimpse of a deep underground Skynet labratory. A pair of lazers working on the obscured face of a skinless terminator. When the lazers pull away they reveal the face of a "in his prime" Arnold. The new system being perfected, the DNA and other biological material taken from Dieter being used as the mold for the new "human" looking Terminators. The T-800's. All we see is the face, could easily be done digitally. Now how they put a fit and "in his prime" looking Arnold on film for the enemy in the final film is a challenge that is hopefully met by 2015 (when the final installment will probably be in production)..
bale is doing this one for a big paycheck... by JimmyJoe RedSky	Nov 21st, 2007 10:22:48 PM
and thats that - he has gone from working with nolan and herzog to "mcg" - $$$ - i saw the last terminator finally - bore-ring - does anyone really want to see a 4th - its like the alien predator crap - let it die already - or if youre going to make them give us something we havent seen a 100 times already - beyond cutting edge cgi fx - yawn - what else will this offer
Fuck i hate this talkback system ... by ruven76	Nov 21st, 2007 10:28:06 PM
Please Jump Into The Current Generation Of Internet Comment Systems
Reign of Fire 2 by Jiggah	Nov 21st, 2007 10:29:02 PM
-Dragons+Robots=T4
Bale as human-robot prototype tormented with conflicting emotion by ruven76	Nov 21st, 2007 10:32:43 PM
John Connor is in his 40's and has been leading the resistance for a couple decades. We see lots of Centurions, T-1's through T-70's. Robots that look like giant spider type robots, biped platforms, and then finally the first of the T series of humanoid (but without skins) types of Terminators... the T-1 etc... Thats who the resistance has to deal with for most of the film. Bale is a bad guy, the new big bad. Except he is first a good guy. He is the reverse of the first movies Terminator who started out as a bad guy and became a hero This guy starts out as a valuable member of the resistance, a guy who idolizes John Connor and is pegged as his possible succcessor His right hand man... possibly this timelines version of Kyle Reese or a new character in a similar vein Made in order to infiltrate the resistance and bring it to its knees from within. He is a cyborg A baby fused with a CPU in utero Eventually his programming starts coming in, slowly but surely he does things he wouldnt normally do We start seeing his "turn to the dark side"... except the dark side is his true side This is a good part for Bale as the character initially struggles mightly with the his sense of loyalty and "love" for Connor and with the inevitable turn that his programming demands Watching Bale as his character becomes self aware that he is not any mere human but some sort of new human/robot hybrid that has been sent back in time in order to be the ultimate sleeper agent Eventually being responsible for the death of John Connor As far as Arnold... you could go two ways, both hinted at in previous Terminator mythology. He can simply be some old Skynet scientist who uses his DNA/likeness and voice as the basis for the new line of human like T-800's. Or.... Arnold plays Dieter Von Rossbach.... Connors mentor in terms of military strategy and a father figure An old Austrian soldier in his 60's who has been instrumental in helping Connor along the way He gets nearly killed and captured by Skynet early on in the movie Dieter is tortured and Arnold gets to throw some nice one liners to the machines as he resists the torture Since he wont break they instead begin submitting him to an experimental yet to be tested new process In a scene reminicent of Total Recall... strapped to a chair in excruciating pain The old man's brain being removed while his spinal fluid, blood, marrow, etc... is drained.... while being kept alive and awake unnatural means Arnold then gets turned into a small army of 10 T-600's, rubber skinned Dieter looking Terminators They can either use that ugly de-aging technique from X3 (hope not), use MoCap, CGI it, or a combination of digital and practical effects like with Hellboy My choice would be to make these robots not look like perfect replicas of Arnold They are made of rubber afterall.... should not be difficult to make it work imo These T-600s ravage through the resistance, but are ultimate destroyed by ??? (possibly the Bale character glitches and goes back to lead the resistance in Connors absence And for one last way to keep things fun.... At the end of the SECOND movie, after the climax and apparent victory for the resistance... we see a glimpse of a deep underground Skynet labratory A pair of lazers working on the obscured face of a skinless terminator When the lazers pull away they reveal the face of a "in his prime" Arnold The new system being perfected, the DNA and other biological material taken from Dieter being used as the mold for the new "human" looking Terminators The T-800's All we see is the face, could easily be done digitally Now how they put a fit and "in his prime" looking Arnold on film for the enemy in the final film is a challenge that is hopefully met by 2015 (when the final installment will probably be in production).
Post Apocalyptic to the extreme... by Boober	Nov 21st, 2007 10:37:19 PM
Maybe Bale as Connor gradually becomes more terminator-like as he gets injured in his war against the machines and literally replaces pieces of himself at the cost of his humanity. Skynet sees how well he destroys machines and decides to copy his behavior/technology etc. and the terminators are born. I can easily see the 800 series being the bigger, beefier successor to the original T600 line which is based, you guessed it, on cyberntetic John Connor. However, if this movie isn't Apocalypse Now meets Star Wars meets Braveheart then Stinky McPoo to the "G" it will be.
Ahnuld wouldn't come back, nor lend his likeness by SpencerTrilby	Nov 21st, 2007 10:38:51 PM
he's a Guh-veh-nor now. It's been 4 years now and it's still funny as hell, come to think of it. He used to bash the politicians before... Ahhh memories....
Harry, I don't want to be a hater... by john-cortez	Nov 21st, 2007 10:46:29 PM
but give me a break. There are times when we really need to back the industry we love and then there are times when we draw the line in the fuckin' sand and say "No Cameron, No bueno!". I wish them all the best with this but count me out. And I agree man, McG is a stupid name to go by.
We'll see "Head Geek"... by Ravenwood In L.A.	Nov 21st, 2007 11:05:44 PM
Why would Bale do this? He has a successful franchise in "Batman." He has a successful career and a lot of respect away from that franchise - Sorry. Not buying this until Hollywood Reporter drops it on us... which I doubt will happen. However, if it does, I'll come back and say I was wrong. Happy Thanksgiving.
Yay Bale by Lando Griffin	Nov 21st, 2007 11:06:10 PM
Boo McG
No fucking Schwarzenegger in this, please! by godoffireinhell	Nov 21st, 2007 11:14:28 PM
A cameo I can live with but I don't want to see his horsefaced carcass for the duartion of the film.
I really, REALLY don't get the hate for McG by SpencerTrilby	Nov 21st, 2007 11:18:05 PM
I mean, that's not like he raped our collective childhoods or failed to deliver a fitting translation of the much lauded (watch out, irony here) Aaron Spelling's TV show... He just made a mediocre yet entertaining first feature, a slightly better sequel, and tried to get more serious with a sports drama. Nothing heavy to complain about.
by huggerorange	Nov 21st, 2007 11:23:58 PM
harsh times really blew my ass away because of bales perfectly on-key maniac performancein it..now we have a terminator film to look foward to.
Wait for McG to turn Skynet into a nanomachines cloud by SpencerTrilby	Nov 21st, 2007 11:27:09 PM
or put nipples or flames on the Terminator endoskeleton before branding him as a hack, that's all I hadda say.
This sounds EXACTLY like something Christian Bale would do: by F-1000	Nov 21st, 2007 11:37:26 PM
Ala this quote by none other than Christian Bale himself: "I always like that. Whenever there's a project where everyone's going, 'Oooooh, it's a bit dodgy,' I always like it. If you actually look at it, there tends not to be anything risky at all. Why did I start acting in the first place? I didn't do it to be mediocre or to please everybody all the time."
T3 was horrible shit, i have no faith in this movie. by hiperaktiv	Nov 21st, 2007 11:40:26 PM
Not even with Bale, who is a superb actor, can save the Terminator franchise...It died after T3. And as far as im concerned and this is coming from a massive Terminator fan, it ended with T2.
Is it better, or worse than a former sitcom actor by SpencerTrilby	Nov 21st, 2007 11:44:01 PM
turned shitty writer/director of lame kiddie films, helming a project that was MEANT to be directed by Iron Jim? Yes, I'm talking about Jon Favreau.
James Cameron please Save this by Pipple	Nov 21st, 2007 11:49:09 PM
Produce it or something! Why do you let them rape your creation?
fuckign white screen by zom-bot.com	Nov 22nd, 2007 12:14:35 AM
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I thought kevin conroy when i saw bruce wayne.. by ironic_name	Nov 22nd, 2007 12:20:25 AM
bale, don't ruin your career!
Please give me this one piece of continuity... by AnarchyWorldsEnd	Nov 22nd, 2007 12:24:34 AM
"Skynet's defensive grid was smashed. It was over. We'd won. Killing Connor then would have made no diffrence." - Kyle Reese, Terminator 1 The only reason time travel exists is Skynet loses. Pleaes let the scriptwriters remember this...
CG 35 year old Arnold better than no Arnold by cyclo	Nov 22nd, 2007 12:35:46 AM
'The Terminator' is movie that if it were made TODAY would be so fucking full of CG that... well, you get the point, all of the cyborgs would be 100% CG including Arnold. Now I am no fan of Hollywood's over reliance on CG effects to the point where good storytelling has become a thing of the past... but nevertheless, I say a CG Arnold is better than no Arnold at all.
CG 35 year old Arnold better than no Arnold by cyclo	Nov 22nd, 2007 12:35:46 AM
'The Terminator' is movie that if it were made TODAY would be so fucking full of CG that... well, you get the point, all of the cyborgs would be 100% CG including Arnold. Now I am no fan of Hollywood's over reliance on CG effects to the point where good storytelling has become a thing of the past... but nevertheless, I say a CG Arnold is better than no Arnold at all.
CG 35 year old Arnold better than no Arnold by cyclo	Nov 22nd, 2007 12:37:17 AM
'The Terminator' is movie that if it were made TODAY would be so fucking full of CG that... well, you get the point, all of the cyborgs would be 100% CG including Arnold. Now I am no fan of Hollywood's over reliance on CG effects to the point where good storytelling has become a thing of the past... but nevertheless, I say a CG Arnold is better than no Arnold at all.
Amen AnarchyWorldsEnd! by SpencerTrilby	Nov 22nd, 2007 12:37:23 AM
My only gripe toward this is the "reinventing the Terminator universe" crypto-bullshit. All I ask is a dark tone, new characters and mechanics, tension and clever plot twists. But DO NOT FUCKING TOUCH at the Kyle Reese storyline. DO NOT, Joseph McGinty!
Amen AnarchyWorldsEnd! by SpencerTrilby	Nov 22nd, 2007 12:38:04 AM
My only gripe toward this is the "reinventing the Terminator universe" crypto-bullshit. All I ask is a dark tone, new characters and mechanics, tension and clever plot twists. But DO NOT FUCKING TOUCH at the Kyle Reese storyline. DO NOT, Joseph McGinty!
Maggie Q cast in Wolverine by zooch	Nov 22nd, 2007 12:44:03 AM

End of story, huh? by The Llama	Nov 22nd, 2007 12:55:09 AM
That sounds suspiciously like the same declaration from years ago, before Episode II, when we were told--end of story--that Christopher Walken had been cast as one of the main villains. It's one thing to stand behind a source--quite another to declare that it's absolutely beyond question and thus place yourself in "I look like a fool" territory.
cg is bad enough in live action movies most of the time by noiretblanc	Nov 22nd, 2007 12:55:36 AM
let alone in a whole cg affair. cg shouldn't replace live action films at this point. it's just an alternative form of animation. so, to suggest that things should be cg is suggesting things could be animated traditionally. let's not suggest things be animated please; it makes movies a lot less serious.
re: Equilibrium by 'Cholera's Ghost	Nov 22nd, 2007 01:03:20 AM
Yes, Cobra-Kai, I broke down and rented it, just because I think Bale is great, dourface and all, and loved everything he's been in since Machinist with the exception of Reign of Fire (though it wasn't Bale's fault). Definitely did not disappoint. I actually felt enjoyment, a feeling rarely elicited by movies these days. So, I thought twas good and worth it, for what it's worth. GUN KATA!

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