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Hercules Ponders Friday’s
Final GALACTICA Razorette!!

testing 1 2 3 by xega	Nov 16th, 2007 12:19:51 AM
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Humans begat Cylons that became humans by aboriginal	Nov 16th, 2007 12:42:17 AM
that begat Cylons that became humans and on and on . . . just that over thousands of years they keep forgetting history and this time there is a wrinkle and his name is Neo.
Nothing against Razor but... by heavenlykid	Nov 16th, 2007 01:12:01 AM
Where the heck is the season 3 DVD? You'd think it would come out before the next big TV Movie thingy. Those of us that watch show's exclusively on DVD's are getting impatient. Still, it's the best show on TV next to Black Books.
Galactica 3.x by Hercules	Nov 16th, 2007 01:20:30 AM
April.
heavenlykid by redfist	Nov 16th, 2007 01:24:24 AM
I feel your pain, I am living in Germany and can only view on DVD. I see also by the amount of post on this topic that people are starting to not give a shit about BG.
April by skydemon	Nov 16th, 2007 01:25:52 AM
YES!! About damn time.
thanks Herc and redfist by heavenlykid	Nov 16th, 2007 01:31:55 AM
for the time line and the support. April seems so far away (and, when it comes to marketing, not very smart, Xmas anyone?) but hopefully it means they're giving us some kick ass special features. One can hope.
Season 3 DVD by Dimpy	Nov 16th, 2007 02:40:10 AM
So how come the Season 3 DVD boxset has been available in the UK for months..? Doesn't seem fair that you guys have to wait this long.
I hear Ya Dimpy by Galdivarn	Nov 16th, 2007 04:23:40 AM
I'm in the UK and I've had the boxset for quite some time now. Only thing is though other than the "story so far" Dvd theres no extra's and given that theres a gag reel and loads of other stuff floating round the net it's a bit dis appointing that they're were'nt included in the extras. Bet you guys in states get loads more extras, given how long it'staking it to be released over there you could have all the webisodes etc as well.
I am new to the show... by The Visco Kid	Nov 16th, 2007 04:34:43 AM
I have been watching the series on DVD, I am almost finished with the 2nd half of season 2 and I have the DVD of "Razor" on hold with Netflix. So, what is the deal with these "Razorettes"? Will all of them be on the DVD or will I have to look online for them? Would it be a good idea to watch the vignettes before or after "Razor" itself? I can't stand that I didn't get into 'Galactica' until now, this show is incredible and I am getting further and further drawn in by it.
Minis by Alientoast	Nov 16th, 2007 06:19:03 AM
I'm pretty sure the minis will be included on the final DVD. As I understand them, they used to actually be a part of the Razor feature, but most were cut from the final product. I dunno why they cut part 3...that one was badass.
Fuckin strike by Dazzler69	Nov 16th, 2007 06:55:39 AM
Maybe we can get a TB for strike news only to watch how this unfolds and how when it will end. This seems to effect everybody.
redfist by AllieJamison	Nov 16th, 2007 08:07:07 AM
I also live in germany. The fact that I should have to wait a year until I can finally see a tv-show that, months ago, has been discussed and dissected on filmsites and message boards only to see it on german tv in a shitty fucked up dubbed version is intolerable. Everyone should be able to LEGALLY watch tv-shows at the same time. I don't have any regrets about watching downloaded episodes. If they come out on dvd I happily replace the downloaded files with the real thing. [br] [br] It's just that the official market doesn't seem to be ready for what is already a global field of consumers. [br] Download the third season of BSG and buy the DVD once it's out there.
whatever by spidercoz	Nov 16th, 2007 08:58:36 AM
I've tried to watch Razor twice now and I just fall asleep, it's boring as hell
Adama is a Cylon by KandiSlayer	Nov 16th, 2007 10:56:32 AM
Remember when Roslin sent the Cylon out the airdock? His last words made me laugh then, because I have always suspected that the truth is that we are all cylons...
Umm, Razor was leaked to bitorrent a few weeks ago by warp11	Nov 16th, 2007 01:14:53 PM
And it's alright. The gal who plays the assistant then XO does a good job. Could have been better though.
and when do we get the Farscape shorts? by warp11	Nov 16th, 2007 01:18:03 PM
seriously.
by tikibars	Nov 16th, 2007 01:33:57 PM
Didn't see anything on the site about this, so I thought I'd chime in here. I saw a screening of BG: Razor on November 12. The 9:00 screening took place at the Cinemark Theatre in Evanston (just north of Chicago). The place was only half-full, even thought the screening was free (don't know if the other earlier screening was full of not). They started off with some commercials for some XBox games; I am not a gamer so I have no comment. Then they showed an interview with Seth Green about his role in the game. Razor was divided into two parts with some more XBox commercials at halftime (same ones as before the show!). Afterwards, there was a preview of BG Season 4, which amounted to some clips from Season 3, with one shot at the very end that was new: Starbuck screaming something that amounts to a major spoiler (not for a specific plot point, but more a spoiler to the general arc of the season). They also showed a trailer for the DVD version of Razor, which (based on what we saw in the trailer) contains additional footage about Admiral Cain's childhood, and the complete version of the Young Adama webisodes currently airing on the web (selected footage from the webisode is in the television / theatre preview version of Razor, but not all ofi t). Razor itself is all right, but nothing spectacular. (POSSIBLE SPOILERS AHEAD) Razor flashes back and forth between material taking place during Season 2, and material taking place before Season 1. The story basically follows a new character named Kendra who comes aboard the Battlestar Pegasus just before the Cylon War II begins. Cainis hard on her, but Kendra rises to the occasion and earns respect. Flash forward to Lee Adama's command of Pegasus: Kendra is around and becomes Apollo's Executive Officer. She helps dismantle a secret Cylon base where they are hiding the remains of an early attmept to crossbreed humans and Cylons, a sort of mssing link between the old-skool 1970s Cylons and the human-looking ones of modern times. Cain comes off as a complete psychopath, shooting her own officers in the head for insubordination, sending the Pegasus on suicide missions, and ordering the deaths of civilians. She is absolutely out of her mind. Badly written, badly played. The audience tittered once or twice as Adama cracks a joke about her, but the only REAL reaction from the audience is when we get to see 1970s Cylons in action. When one speaks (two measly lines) the audience went wild. Nothing else really got a reaction! Ths probalby goes to illustrate how lackluster Razor is. It doesn't suck, but neither did it really move people much. There are some weak plot points, and the whole thing just seems to be treading water without really advancing the Galactica mythos much. Starbuck, Apollo, Adama, Kendra, and Cain are the main players; Number 6 is in it a bit too. Baltar is in like one scene, some of the other big players are missing altogether. Digital projection looked good, but on the big screen, some of the digital effects looked a little cheap (although they'll look fine on the small screen).
Razor = Amazing by snowpuff	Nov 16th, 2007 01:52:55 PM
I saw Razor at one of the screenings. I thought it was some of best work they've done in the series. I had a couple of problems with the story logic though - Without giving anything away, let me just ask: why were those cylon ships looking for a fight if they would have been better off keeping a low profile? And I didn't buy the revelation at the end about [censored character]'s actions. Compelling, but I didn't buy it. I've knocked RDM before for this - sometimes he likes to shock us for the sake of shocking us. It's not that I didn't believe the... possibility... I just didn't see it in the character's arc. Maybe in the extended version it works better. I still think this is ***** five stars and can't imagine how SciFi saw this and didn't change their mind about wrapping up the show.
I thought Razor was great. by I Hope You Die	Nov 16th, 2007 01:59:25 PM
Pegasus came and went all too quickly and I was left wondering what the point was but Razor redeemed it for me. It's kind of like how the New Caprica story seemed rushed but as Season 3 built toward Baltar's trial the tension it created among the crew lent it greater meaning. Cain is a psychopath and it's difficult to feel any sympathy for her but she's not the focus of Razor; Kendra is. I thought Razor was going to be a side story with no relevance to the greater plot but, although you don't see much of the usual Galactica cast (something that works in its favor IMO), there are genuine developments that will be important to Season 4. Moreover, it felt good to be watching again after such a long hiatus; made me realize how crappy so much current television is in comparison.
These Razorettes... by -guyinthebackrow	Nov 16th, 2007 03:40:35 PM
have been great. Proof that you can make quality "made for interweb" stories. Just... don't pay the writers. They're greedy.
tikibars by McDee	Nov 16th, 2007 04:39:52 PM
FRAK!!!!!! I tired to register and I got a message that the registration was closed and full, and now it seems like hardly anyone fraking showed up!?!?!?!? AAARRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
A little LATE by RedScab	Nov 16th, 2007 06:08:39 PM
You guys dropped the ball I was looking for this talkback on the night of Nov 12th for the people who went to the screenings. The company who organized the screenings did a piss poor job (opus solutions). My people registered and never got confirm emails but were still on the list at the theater. I went to a 9pm showing in Dallas and the theater was packed. I enjoyed Razor, can't wait to see it in HD, I was not impressed by the way it looked on the big screen, BSG pops on TV but not so much on the big screen. Spoilers..... Razor is a great bone to throw the BSG nation until next April (frack can't wait that long). You get an insight into Admiral Cain and why she is such a bitch with something to prove. And all the rumors you heard about Cain are played out on screen. Some nice nods to the orginal series and even an A-Team reference. So all in all Razor is a nice snack but we are hungry for the main course SEASON 4. Fracking have to wait until April.
QUESTION: Is the little blond girl by snowpuff	Nov 16th, 2007 07:40:49 PM
trapped on the ship supposed to be where they cloned Six from???? This is referring to flashback 6.
So, when do they show the Razorette on Scifi.com? by snowpuff	Nov 16th, 2007 08:07:25 PM

by snowpuff	Nov 16th, 2007 10:12:16 PM

by snowpuff	Nov 16th, 2007 10:12:51 PM
[crickets chirping]
Razor was BORING!!! by Maniaq	Nov 17th, 2007 12:04:32 AM
I, like that audience, only really enjoyed about 30 seconds of old-school Cylons and the rest... well, it was not a particularly interesting story and I don't think you're really missing much if you never ever were to see it - except for those glorious 30 seconds or so!
So after having watched - I assume the major player in the Cylon by slayme	Nov 17th, 2007 12:46:56 AM
Lee Adama. I'm assuming this because Cylon tour guide guy at the end made that specific point to Bill Adama, that he had made sure that Lee would be aboard the Galactica at the beginning of the second Cylon War. Or am I wrong on this?
My topic cut off - should read by slayme	Nov 17th, 2007 12:50:41 AM
So after having watched - I assume the major player they are referring to in the second Cylon War is Lee Adama. Wasn't trying to say that Lee is a Cylon - just to clear that up.
Um... OK by snowpuff	Nov 17th, 2007 01:40:42 AM
That was the final Razorette?
Interesting that people seem divided on Razor by snowpuff	Nov 17th, 2007 01:46:26 AM
as either boring or great. Not particularly titillating that Lee Adama is an important player (or not). There aren't that many characters left to choose from. In fact, nearly every major human character either has visions or is a cylon. Maybe we'll find a good reason for that...
snowpuff - Yes by slayme	Nov 17th, 2007 02:10:14 AM
Yes, that was the final one. BSG: Razor airs this coming Saturday I believe. I saw it and it was quite good in my opinion. I tend not to be as harsh on this show as some talkbackers seems to be because every show is going to have it's flaws and weaknesses - but in my opinion BSG's excellent moments far outweigh any problems with the show. Definatly one of my all time favorite tv shows.
Yeah still remains to be seen... by slayme	Nov 17th, 2007 02:17:12 AM
why exactly Lee would be important to their plan. Perhaps to cause conflict between him and his father, maybe to examine their relationship up close, or maybe something much more extreme. Damn.. Can't wait til April!! (Should have been January you scifi chann bastids.)
the xbox 360 ads inserted into the middle of the free by Trader Groucho 2	Nov 17th, 2007 03:59:12 AM
screening were a bit jarring as i'm not accustomed to ads breaking up a movie (and on tv anymore i don't watch when it's aired so i can fast forward through that stuff). the other thing that struck me is how obvious it is that they rely so heavily on close-ups of actor reactions to stuff happening rather than showing that stuff as fx cost more than a close-up. it works on tv. in a movie theater, not so much. also caught a big-screen screening of the menagerie. the director in 1966 or '67 did not rely as heavily on close-ups. even at over 40 years old, it seemed more at home on a big screen than razor. oh, and pike's blonde chick dancing as the green alien slave girl? that alone was worth the price of admission. which brings up a question. was roddenberry forced to change the captain's name to kirk because pike was too overtly phallic???
so this means that the Cylon LET them survive all this time... by SantiagoAtez	Nov 17th, 2007 07:17:31 AM
And that doesn't make sense. If they wanted Lee to survive the attack and be on the BSG, then it means this is all part of their plan...wtf? This plot development really strains the believability of the show.
what's that thing in the closing shot? by aboriginal	Nov 17th, 2007 08:31:13 AM
That pock marked fortune cookie thing? Cylon homeworld? Enquiring minds wanna know.
re: what's that thing in the closing shot? by BigAce	Nov 17th, 2007 09:04:13 AM
A close up of Adama's face?!? kidding!!!!
RE: what's that thing in the closing shot? by SantiagoAtez	Nov 17th, 2007 09:54:23 AM
It was just the same intro shot (although in reverse) as the miniseries opening. It's just an asteroid.
re: what's that thing in the closing shot? by snowpuff	Nov 17th, 2007 10:10:44 AM
That's Earth. That turns out to be the big joke of the whole series. Earth is a burned out cinder and they were right next to it from the start.
leaked season 4 spoiler by palewook	Nov 17th, 2007 10:16:59 AM
all the cylons start discovering their really humans and the humans are the cylons...
Viper on Asteroid by AdamandEva	Nov 17th, 2007 10:30:38 AM
Is it me or was that a viper on the back of the Asteroid - I thought I saw a viper hanging around. This must be Cylon Lee Adama hanging around waiting for the attack.
RE: That thing in the closing shot by AdamandEva	Nov 17th, 2007 10:31:55 AM
I think Cylon Lee might be hiding behind an asteroid waiting to show up on Galactica.
interesting that a Cylon arranged for Lee by chromedome	Nov 17th, 2007 03:21:04 PM
to arrive, when even the admiral thought he was unavailable.....
Cylons experimenting on Humans, then sudden End by chromedome	Nov 17th, 2007 03:22:08 PM
to the war.... Slight homage to Babylon 5 there?
NoHubris by chromedome	Nov 17th, 2007 03:23:18 PM
so, I saw the Hybrid listed in the credits, but apparently missed her appearance in the webisodes... can you direct me, sir?
Hey, Chromedome! by NoHubris	Nov 17th, 2007 08:47:01 PM
I honestly can't for sure, but the Razorette with the Hybrid looks to be Razorette 5 where an arm comes out of the liquid tank and grabs Young Adama while he searches a Cylon facility. BTW I've been staying out of these Razorette TBs recently due to the abundance of Razor spoilage, but of course, I am making an exception for DomedChrome, the purveyor of the Hybrid theory!
I doff the cap from my chromey dome to you, Hubie by chromedome	Nov 17th, 2007 10:17:55 PM
for the answer and the TB entry on my behalf sir! not much longer now!! (may just watch my pre-ordered dvd instead, though--FRAK the season splitting, delaying, S3 dvd withholding SciFrakker Management Scum---or word to that effect)
Interesting, is it not, though, Hubie by chromedome	Nov 17th, 2007 10:18:57 PM
that a hybrid appears so early in the history? purvey purvey purvey.....
chromedome... by adrock303	Nov 17th, 2007 10:45:50 PM
Can you please run down your hybrid theory again. It would be greatly appreciated.
The DVD and the TV release are different for Razor by NickCatal	Nov 17th, 2007 11:36:53 PM
I noticed when I watched the razor episode that it credits 'Young Cain' This is because the 'extended features' on the DVD are a full backstory of the past of Adama and Cain. Considering that there is no HDTV / DD 5.1 release of Razor that will be airing (and there is pretty good audio mixing if you went and viewed it) unless you have a high-bitrate entirely digital source for Scifi you are going to wait to wait for the DVD. It is less than one week from the airdate.
Yes, Chromedome, it's intriguing to see a Hybrid... by NoHubris	Nov 18th, 2007 01:14:41 PM
...so early in the story -- or should I say "Yes Chromie, there ARE powerful Hybrids (as in "Yes, Virginia there is a Santa Claus" only this version of "Santa" is likely bringing strange gifts). Doesn't it make you rekindle this question concerning the Cylons: Who's REALLY in charge?! Cheers.
adrock by chromedome	Nov 18th, 2007 02:40:55 PM
my "Hybrid Theory" short-form version: The Cylon in the temple that D'Anna apologized to ("I'm sorry, I did'nt know") was a Hybrid. The introduction of the Hybrid included the suggestion that some cylons think she spews gibberish, while others think every syllable is directly from God. The Hybrid had insights into Baltar, the Temple, etc. D'Anna was not one who had any regard for the hybrids, and just before she went into the temple, her big fear was that she would become crazy, like the hybrid. Hybrids are omnipresent in the cylon plans, guiding their ships, filtering and providing sensor data, etc. nustshell version...
Razorette end credits music is great by NoHubris	Nov 18th, 2007 08:22:31 PM
Moore & Eick should use it for the new opening credits theme music for Season 4 IMHO.
thank you, sir... by adrock303	Nov 18th, 2007 09:30:31 PM
I'm picking up what you're laying down. Very intriguing indeed. As is the Lee Adama mini-revelation in the final Razorette
strike will mean BSG will be cancelled by jccalhoun	Nov 18th, 2007 10:31:12 PM
Mark my words, the strike and the fact that Scifi doesn't intend to start the season until April will mean that the ratings will suck and SciFi will use that as an excuse to fire everyone before they film the end of the series. They will use this as a way to screw the fans. I'm willing to bet on it. Here's step one: http://tinyurl.com/39u7b9
BSG S3 by gord	Nov 19th, 2007 07:19:35 AM
If people are bored of waiting for S3 it was out in the UK a couple of months ago.
A Razor/ette "SPOILER" for nohubris and chromedome by nervous twitch	Nov 19th, 2007 12:11:52 PM
The hybrid in the flashback is heard not seen. "All of this has happened before . . ." and so on. HE is seen at the end of Razor.
Thanks, nervous twitch by NoHubris	Nov 20th, 2007 10:22:51 PM
Looks like I might have jumped the gun then (However, I remain curious about that arm reaching from the tank thing in Razorette 5). Nonetheless, with appearance of a Hybrid in Razor, the Chromedome's Hybrid Theory still has possibilities.
jccalhoun, RE: cancellation by NoHubris	Nov 20th, 2007 10:28:48 PM
If BSG gets cancelled at episode 13, it could be a blessing in disguise. Like original Trek, cancellation could open the door for theatrical BSG movies - that is if Glen Larson so permits.
d'anna > chromedome by moppelh	Nov 23rd, 2007 01:16:26 PM
she apologized to tigh for taking his eye out of the socket

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